WEBVTT - The Drop | Top 3 Candidates For Every NBA Award 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.600 New pr on the leg press. Oh I leg press 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.760 sixteen hundred pounds. Yeah, but you can't squat three hundred. 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.920 What good is a sixteen hundred pound leg press when 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:17.919 you're out on the football field. Do you have a 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:20.520 leg press when you're throwing the shot put? Do you 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.159 have a leg press when you're knee deep in the 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:24.160 muck in Vietnam? 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:36.879 Do you have a leg press? Good morning, sweet world, 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.560 and welcome to the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:44.839 It's Friday, January twenty second. 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All right, we got a lot 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:12.880 to talk about, as we always do on the drop. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.520 We're gonna touch on last night's light NBA schedule, only 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.440 three games. We'll get to those. We got worse of 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.160 the week, we got tweeted the night we got rapid firefun. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.320 But I teased this earlier in the week the twenty 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.560 twenty twenty one NBA regular season already a month in, guys, 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.320 and we're actually nearing the quarter pole really of the season, 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.520 with only seventy two games. We're getting close there. Lately. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:38.560 On Wednesday's podcast, we discussed our early season surprises and 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:43.600 disappointments and some prediction mulligans and our best plays. And 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.040 I teased on that one that on this drop we 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.080 would share in debate our NBA award front runner. So 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.000 let's do it. We'll take turns going through, you know, 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.680 each of the six major NBA awards. Now, I'd like 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:56.560 to point out I don't think and correct me if 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.760 I'm wrong, Guys, I looked at it like this, This 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.240 is not who I think's going to win it, you know, necessarily, 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:06.200 but who right now, you know, fifteen sixteen games in 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.360 would be at the at the top of the leaderboard 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:09.840 or top three even because I want you, guys to 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.560 give me your top three candidates in each one. So Lee, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.479 let's start with MVP. Work it backwards. Lee, Okay, goes 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.000 three to two to one for us, And who do 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.680 you have right now as your MVP? A month? 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:22.880 Then? 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.599 Okay, so this is a good award because we all 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.280 have different ways of evaluating the MVP. No we I 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.200 mean some go on numbers and stats, some give weight 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:33.840 to team success, and some of it is just part 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:37.080 of the itest two way effectiveness narrative plays a part. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.360 So based on all those categories, at number three on 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.240 my MVP leaderboard, I have. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.120 Joel emb Okay. 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.640 There are a few guys in contention here, but I've 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.040 been really impressed with the early returns of Joel Embi 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.280 playing under Doc Rivers. I think Doc has gotten through 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.880 to Joel to make him understand that he needs to 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.120 be a more dominant player closer to the basket. The 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.000 numbers are great, the raw numbers twenty six and twelve 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.159 one and a half blocks and steels per game, so 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.640 he's doing it at both ends there. But he's shooting 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.000 career highs across the board fifty five percent from the field. 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.359 He's taking less threes than he's taken in the past, 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.120 but he's shooting them at a better percentage, and he's 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.080 getting to the free thrown free throw line more and 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.760 making those at a career best clip. The Sixers best 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.640 record in the East, but they have had the easiest 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.240 or an an easy schedule, I will say, but I 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.120 think Joel Embiid so far has has has shown this 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.360 is probably his best career season. For me in the 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:31.880 early games, okay, at number two on my MVP leader board, 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:36.080 I have Kevin Durant Now. The Nets numbers in terms 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:38.440 of win losses only nine and seven and seven and 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:42.440 five when Durant plays, but he has been simply amazing 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.920 on the court when he's been playing, and I think 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:46.560 they are the best team in the East right now, 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:49.560 even though their record doesn't say it. Durant's numbers thirty 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.520 one points, eight rebound, six assists on incredible shooting fifty 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.000 four percent from the field forty six from three, only 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:56.760 eighty six percent from the line for Kevin Durant a 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.560 little bit lower than normal. But to me down to 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:04.120 while the Nets had some defensive issues, every single team 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:06.520 who plays the Nets has defensive issues. When Kevin Durant's 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.200 out on the floor, that's just how good he is. 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.560 He's had a couple of chances to win games and 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.599 he hasn't been able to do it. But right now 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.440 in the Eastern Conference, if I was to pick who's 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.960 going to make it to the NBA Finals. Kevin Durant's 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.720 team is going to make it to the NBA Finals. 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:21.400 He has been incredible, hasn't looked like a guy who's 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.839 missed eighteen months and is also recovering from an Achilles' injury, 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:28.920 which is sometimes devastating to a player. He's been unbelievable. 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:30.839 And I've seen so many games of Kevin Durant that 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.719 I sort of feel I feel like he has just 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.240 impressed me so much because I was wondering if he 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.440 would be able to be back so quickly to the 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.520 player that we saw before he got injured. And I think, 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:45.400 unquestionably he has number one on my leaderboard. I'm going 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.360 with Lebron James for a lot of reasons. Well, look, 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.920 the Lakers the best team and the clear favorite to 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:53.520 win the title right now, the best record in the 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.240 league at twelve or four eight zero on the road 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.560 or I mean, it doesn't mean quite the same these 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.560 days because we don't have that sort. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.960 Of home road impact. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:06.159 But Lebron last night, I think we saw a classic. Hey, guys, 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.960 you know how awesome I am. Watch me just dismantle 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.400 the Milwaukee Bucks out here. Now, Lebron's numbers aren't huge 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.280 by his standards, twenty four to eight to eight on 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.160 forty eight percent shooting. But it's just so impressive to 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.080 me that he's doing it in basically playing a career 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.160 Lozer in minutes, I think, apart from his rookie season, 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.200 and it's just so easy for him and the Lakers 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:30.320 right now. You know, coming off winning the championship last season, 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.240 we wondered, I wondered if maybe Anthony Davis would be 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.800 the guy this year who's like, right, I'm going to 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:37.200 be the best player on the Lakers. I don't think 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.640 that's happened. I think Anthony Davis has kind of not 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:41.960 quite really found his form yet this season, although he's 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.960 been good, but not certainly the player that I thought 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.080 he was. Whereas I look at Lebron, I look around 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.360 the league and I'm like, man, he is just cruising 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.280 right now. This is the time of year where Lebron 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.520 you know, I know, this season started later, but he 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.480 often takes a couple of games off and he just 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:56.360 chills out a little bit. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:57.720 Well, he is chilling out a bit. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.400 But his team is incredible and he's putting up uh, 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.720 you know, again, not huge numbers by his standards, but 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.080 just doing it so easily, shooting the ball well, and 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:09.560 his team looks so good. So Lebron James as of 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:13.720 today is my MVP, which would be his fifth officially, 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:15.440 I think it would be my twelfth if I. 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.040 Was right, right right, Yes, it should be the biggest 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:19.800 surprise that you. 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:24.080 Have just before, just before you guys jump in, I'll 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.360 just say Nikola Jokic was in there because he's obviously 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.679 averaging a triple double. But the Nuggets seven to seven, 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.560 not even in the playoffs in the West right now, 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.480 and Steph Curry is also having a great season. The 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.360 Warrior is also not in the playoffs. So those why 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.280 That's the reason why I took those two guys out 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.120 of contention and went with the three that I chose. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.440 Okay, well, Trey, let's uh, let's go to you. What 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.600 do you think of Lee's list here, especially with Lebron 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:46.480 at number one? Do you agree or disagree? 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.360 Well, I've got the same three on my ballot as Lee, 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.480 but I'm gonna be buster rhymes here and flip it 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.280 on him. I've got Lebron at number three on my 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.440 MVP ballot because it kind of feels like We've been 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.560 watching preseason Lebron for the entirety of this year up 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.600 until last night against the Bucks. Fourth quarter. Lebron is 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.920 the MVP. When he turns it on in the fourth quarter, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.360 as he's been doing throughout this season, he's clearly the 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.440 best player in the league. But it's hilarious to look 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.240 at his stats comically low, like lia Is saying, twenty 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.480 four to eight to eight incredible for anybody. That's sophomore 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.640 season for Lebron, James like he's not given the full 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.840 effort out there. We all know it. He knows it, 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.559 but when he needs to, he can reach into the 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.360 bag and still be the best player in the league. 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.680 I got Kevin Durant at number two. I think he 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.880 likely will and will win MVP at the end of 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.400 the season. Like Li says, he has been phenomenal. He's 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.880 instantly back in the best player in the game conversation. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.760 But I'm given the MVP right now to Juwel Embiid. 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.200 He's been dominant, he's been engaged. He looks like an 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.440 MVP game the game throughout his career, but he's constantly 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.200 putting the team on his back right now, doing it 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.560 on both ends, and I'm giving him the MVP for 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.280 now because it probably won't be the case in a 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.080 couple of months. And this is just how it goes 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.120 with Jewel Embiid. We've seen him really put the team 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:57.679 on his back in the past before. I remember. I 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.320 think it was the Christmas game last sear and he 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:01.880 was going against the Bucks, had like a thirty five 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.640 to fifteen, looked like the best player in the world, 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.480 but it didn't totally translate for the rest of the season. 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.360 He's been awesome this year. He's my MVP right now 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.000 because I want to give him a little shine while 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:11.560 he's on top. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.960 I agree with you, Trey, I got Embiid right now 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.800 as the MVP front runner. You know, one month in here, 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.280 twenty five points per game. He's shooting, you know, fifty 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.400 seven percent on twos, thirty nine point four percent from 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.439 from deeply. But he hasn't fallen in love with a 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.440 three point shot like you said. He's going down into 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.520 the block and making it work down there. Both career 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.559 highs though, and I'll add to this. You know a 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.440 reason why I think he is the MVP right now. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.640 The Sixers' performance without him helps his MVP case. I 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.120 believe they're oh to three when Embid's not playing compared 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.560 to like a nine to two record when he's in there. Now, yes, 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.600 they haven't played the greatest teams yet, but still he 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.560 can only play who's in front of you there, so 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.640 that I think does help him. I got KD I 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.360 actually have him second as well, but then I had 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.960 Jokich just third. But Kad, I have a question for you, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.000 I'll go to Yulie. Moving forward. I know we're talking 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.360 about one month in here, but moving forward, does trading 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.480 for Harden hurt Katy's MVP chances? Like is it almost 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.640 going to be impossible now for him to win it? 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.240 You know, as the season goes on, Like, what's your 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:12.719 take on that? 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:13.560 I don't think so. 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.880 I think Kevin Durant has clearly established himself as the 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.000 best player in the Eastern Conference so far in this 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:20.199 one month into the sea. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.880 But if Lebron and Ed at times cancel each other out, 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:24.800 then why it couldn't. Yeah the same about Katie who 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:26.439 also had that happen with Steph curry back. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.240 I think for that to happen, James Harden would almost 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.760 have to just have like just an an astronomical season, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.240 which I just don't think he's going to do. I 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.920 think again, it's the eye test for me with the 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.720 Brooklyn Nets, like they're nine and seven and seven and 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.600 five when Kevin Durant plays, which is like, oh, they 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.960 should be better than that. But it just feels to me, 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.080 again in the Eastern Conference, I wouldn't pick anyone to 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:47.800 beat the Nets in a seven game series right now. 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:49.560 While Kevin Durant's playing the way he is, I just 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.320 feel is that dominant and that impactful if you take 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.959 James Harden off that team. Even prior to that, I thought, 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.280 I still think while Kevin Durant's there, the Nets are 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:00.880 the best team. Harden improves them. Butt for me is 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:05.440 back to already his best, the best player he was 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.199 before he had the injury. So look, I'm maybe a 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.760 little bias too because I have fallen back in love 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.240 with KD. You know, it's like, you know, he because 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.319 he was kind of like he was on the out 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:16.720 of there for a while when he went to the Worriores. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.120 You know, people kind of like that's a bit of 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.079 a dick move. But he's now gone to another team 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.679 with star players. But it's like, Okay, let's just let's 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.400 just not forget that this guy is an incredible talent 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.560 in the league. And like I say, when he's on 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.720 the court, which other team goes, well, we can defend 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.720 Kevin Durant. You know, That's part of the reason why 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.160 I say they like the Nets have got a terrible 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.360 defense and they allow teams to score, but they have 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.120 Kevin Durant, so they know that if the game comes closed, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:43.760 you want the ball in Kd's hands, as we saw 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:45.360 the other night against the Milwaukee Bucks. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.000 Okay, so tas Leely's got Lebron right now as his 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.800 MVP front unner. Tray and I have Joel Embiid at 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:53.360 the top of our list, and then we're obviously talking 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:54.720 about all these other guys. Who do you have? 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.360 Yeah, I would go with Joel Embiid as well. I 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.480 think one guy who's not part of the conversation right 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.800 now because he contracted the coronaviruses, Jason Tatum. Who would 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.440 be I think either one or two if he was 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:13.640 entirely healthy the entire season. It's usually a factor is injuries, 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.520 no doubt, but this year a factor is the virus 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.160 contracting the virus and missing a couple of weeks is huge. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.600 But there's just so many guys that are like middling 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.160 right there at the top. There's like, I think you 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:28.720 could make an argument for I don't know, I didn't count, 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.720 but like ten guys. All the guys you've mentioned are 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.599 all right there. And Lebron. I think Lee kind of 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.600 went with him, and a lot people do because it's 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:39.680 sort of a default pick. Yeah, he is the best 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.319 player on the best team. But this is the one 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.760 year Lebron's not even going for it. I mean, he's 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:48.200 playing the fewest minutes he's ever played. This is his 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:52.520 second lowest point total since his rookie season. He needs 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.719 things to motivate him. I think there's a reason why 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.400 they're eight to NOO on the road, because he's got 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.280 to get up for games and that he's always loved 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:00.880 playing on the road. This is a season where he's 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:02.720 chilling a little bit, you know, only playing thirty two 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:07.240 minutes a game, and Anthony Davis isn't playing to his 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:10.880 capabilities whatsoever. It's amazing that the Lakers are what they are, 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.280 but yeah, I guess I'm sort of picking embiid because 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.840 you know, Tray and I picked him last year thinking 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.040 that the jump that came this season would have come 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.840 last season, and it's it's it's there, it's apparent. I 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.400 don't know how long it's gonna last, because it's it's 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.520 hard to be an MVP. It's hard to be jannistet 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:33.760 Kompo and go seventy two games the full frick and throttle. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.600 So Embiid and Jokic I would pick because I'm pumped 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.200 to see them right up there at the top of 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.320 the leader board. It's just it's it's an anomaly. I 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.480 just don't know how long those guys last at the top. 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:46.000 So I would pick it while it's there. 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.640 I think them beads MVP cases helped too that he 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.600 has a you know, he's a factor on the defensive 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:52.280 end as well. I mean that's why we were always 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.400 bumping Giannis up over the last couple of years, because 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:56.680 you're like, oh, yeah, he's also a great defender. He's 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:58.320 in the running for Defensive Player the Year, which I 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.120 you know, Embiid is always in the mix too. I 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.600 think that's helps him right now and beat can win 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.040 this thing if obviously the Sixers win enough games and 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:06.920 he plays enough games like he's going to have the 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.840 counting stats. It's just whether he actually has the games played. 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.080 I mean, I guess he'll have the average, is what 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.440 I mean, but whether he'll have the games played, It's 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.360 it's fascinating. I am a little intriguedly that you sort 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.360 of have Durant so high, and I get it, you've 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.400 fallen in love with him coming back. The league's better 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.920 watching him. You're watching a ton of Nets games, but 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.560 like you said, the Nets are what nine and seven? 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.600 And you know the Nuggets are disappointing? What seven and seven? 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.320 But you know, like it's so it's not that much different, 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:34.920 is what I'm getting out here. And we got Yollkich 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.920 averaging a triple double, you know, twenty five, eleven and ten. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.520 I think he's still at but you still have them 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.480 sort of just outside your top three. But I am 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.680 with you there a task like it's it's very very 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:46.600 close between a lot of these guys. I mean, Luca 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:51.880 in the mix, yeah exactly. Of course, Gianness is sort 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.000 of still in the mix there, just with his cheer numbers. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.360 You know, Lillard obviously a little bit still in play 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.520 though they're eight and six, Paul George and Cole Leonard 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:03.600 on the Clippers. I think I have to be considered too. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.440 So there's a ton of guys, but you know, a 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.080 lot of us are going with embid right now. At 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.480 the top, Lee says Lebron James. He loves a good narrative. 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.240 I love it all. He's got it all. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.240 But but also again, the Lake is their their their 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.720 point differential, best in the league. I mean, yeah, I'm 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.560 just giving white to the fact that Lebron these numbers 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.080 are a little bit lower by his standards, But he 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.880 looks to me like he's in complete control of the league. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.880 And right now there's no one I would pick to 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.200 beat the Lakers in the finals as we are today. 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:30.320 So that's the other thing. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:32.600 Well, let's hear from you guys out there with all 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.720 of these awards. Let us know in the YouTube comments, 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:36.800 shout out to the stream team again and you can 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.480 tweet at us that as well. At no Dunk's inc. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.160 Anything else to add to the MVP conversation or just 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.520 the table is full. I think we got like ten guys. 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.200 Yeah, you named everybody that's in the league. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:48.880 YEA, yeah, I did say. I did say the Warriors 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:50.760 winning the playoffs. They are actually in the playoffs at 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.840 eight and seven. I did get that wrong, the seventh 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:54.360 in the Western Conference. 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.720 Well, let's get to our next award. It's most improved 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.720 players so far. Actually, before you give us three, tray, 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.720 is Lebron in the mix? Because I'm getting ready for 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.240 people to start up Lebron for most improved because he's 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.560 added the three point shot, like he's like suddenly back 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.120 to being like a I guess he did it once before, 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.240 like a forty percent three point shooter. I'm just waiting 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.240 for somebody to fire up that take. But who do 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.640 you have as your top three mips right now? While 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.520 at number three I got Lebron James. 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.879 He missed that huge three against the Warriors, made a 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.080 big one last night, so I'm putting him in the mix. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.879 It happened last night, so it matters the most. I'm kidding, Skeets, 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.800 you hate this award. Guess what I love it? 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:30.080 Yeah. 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.840 Little known fact about me, I was Plano High School's 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:36.159 most improved player in two thousand and one. I just 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.840 sucked when I was a junior, honestly, Yeah, But once 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:44.440 I got a big role was ball and mip Trey Kirby. Anyways, 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.960 here's my top three at number three on my ballot, 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.920 Jeremy Grant twenty five points per game this year. That's 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.159 a thirteen point in crazy's career highs across the board. 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.320 The percentages are steady. To me, this is kind of 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.480 the Paul Millsap corollary. Shout out to Tom Zill back 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.080 in the day. Jeremy Grant has an increased role with 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.240 the Pistons, but he's maintained his efficiency. He's seizing an opportunity, 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:07.400 He's doing it every night. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:08.439 There was a lot of. 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.280 Questions about this signing in the offseason, but the Pistons 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:12.960 got this one right. I don't know about the rest 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:14.600 of the moves they made, but the Jeremy Grant won 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.639 it looks good. Number two on my ballot Christian Wood 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.600 twenty three points per game. That's a ten point increase 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.560 career highs across the board. Again, percentages are steady. He's 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.640 gone from a curiosity to an established player with star potential, 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.400 maybe a building block for the Houston Rockets. I really 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:33.960 think that that is Christian Woods team, like they did 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:37.000 acquire Victor Oladipo. John wall Is there, but that's the 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.800 future for the Rockets. Christian Would, and you know, I 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.719 think that people are loving to dunk on you if 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.600 you didn't watch the Pistons a lot last year. But 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.360 Christian Would also started like twelve games for the Pistons. 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.240 It wasn't a long stretch where he was out there 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.440 putting up twenty five and ten. Now he's doing it 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.560 pretty consistently. Also a good rim protector, so he's in 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.040 the mix for me as well. But my most improved 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:02.720 player so far is Jalen Brown. I've been sleeping on 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.000 Jalen Brown. He's one of my favorites. Did you realize 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.000 Jalen Brown is now up to twenty five a game, 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.920 six rebounds, four assists, steal in a half, career highs 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:14.680 from the field, career high from three. He's got better playmaking, 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.040 his handle has improved, his usage rate is now up 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.440 to thirty. That's superstar level. Celtics have been bawling because 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.840 he's really knocking on superstar status. Jason Tatum, like tast Set, 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:26.280 has missed some games, Kemba Walker missed some games, but 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.480 Jalen Brown has been there doing it every single night 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.159 for the Celtics. Really impressive stuff. 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.000 All right, I didn't see that coming. I like that 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:33.879 pick though, task What do you think about that? Jalen 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.240 at number one on your leader board? 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.000 That was a great one. No, he threw me for 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.800 a curveball. I've kind of forgotten about the Jalen banwig. 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:42.680 I guess I've just come to accept that Jalen Brown 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.520 is awesome and I don't think of him as an 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:49.440 improved player because I've been you know, I followed the 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.280 lead every tray is. You know, jumped on that bad 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.520 and Wigan last year and I'm on there. I wonder 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.440 what happens to his shots when when Jason Tatum comes back. 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.439 He definitely was kicking ass when Tatum was in the 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.320 lineup earlier this season. He's come back a little bit 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.720 to earth. Jayalen Brown was shooting like sixty percent from 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:10.480 the field. But yeah, he's phenomenal. I don't know. The 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:14.879 jump isn't as big than it is for Jeremy Grant. 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.919 As Trey said that, that and Christian Wood are just 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.280 those two stand out to me as big jumps when 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.200 I look at it the Most Improved Player award. It's 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:28.160 harder to go from good to great like traded in 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:32.399 his senior year at a Plano or you know these 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:34.480 numbers where you just get playing time, you get a role. 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.159 Christian Wood is that guy, and Jeremy Grant is just 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.119 he's just phenomenal. It's not like he's gotten you know, 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.520 more minutes. The numbers are wild. He's taking ten more 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.920 shots a game, but the percentages are exactly the same. 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:52.520 It's crazy. I didn't think that that was going to happen. 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:56.080 He has scored twenty or more in thirteen consecutive games. 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.760 That just doesn't happen on good percentages. And you know, 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:03.440 some say that anybody somebody has to score. I should 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.320 say on the Detroit Pistons, somebody has to score. But 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:08.720 he's doing it efficiently, so he's he's great. I think 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.760 he's probably the front runner along with Christian Wood. Depending 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:15.240 the last sixty games of the season, their number increases 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.320 just too damn high to deny them. 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.199 Lely and who you got, yeah the end. 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:22.520 The other name I would throw in there, I like 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:25.240 the Jalen Brown pick is Chris Bouchet from the Raptors. 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:29.600 I think he's been incredible, shooting sixty percent on from 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:32.120 the field, averaging fifteen and a half points a game, 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:35.280 forty eight percent from downtown, and six rebounds. So he's 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:40.080 clearly having his best season for the Raptors. The Raptors record, obviously, 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:41.879 they've they've started off badly. They lost a lot of 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:42.520 games at the start. 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.040 But he doesn't play a ton of minutes either. 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.280 Well but yeah, but still that's that's good though for 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:48.520 his Well, that that's good. 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:50.320 But I got a little trivia question off of that 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:53.400 for you, Lee Okay, can you name Okay? I saw 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:56.120 this from bleacher Report. The NBA hasn't had a most 0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:00.879 improved player who averaged under thirty minutes since this in 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:04.040 ninety seven ninety eight. A tough one. This is a 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:06.920 tough mip. We don't talk about this guy a lot. 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:08.680 He played for the Hawks. 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:08.800 For sure. 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:11.800 I think he played for the Nets. The well fact 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:15.040 check that while you guys maybe try and pick it. Yeah, 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.440 he's got a very oh, he's got a very common 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:20.560 sort of last name a lot Jo Henderson. Yeah, man 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:23.800 TK coming through with Alan Henderson. Did he play for 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:26.160 one that didner? I'm sorry. He played for the MAVs, 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:27.920 the Cavs and the Sixers at the end of his career. 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.199 That's what I was thinking of. So anyway, it's very, 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:32.200 very tough to do. I guess was my point. Dell 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.359 Bouche at twenty four minutes per game right now, that 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.120 could go up if he gets the starting nod eventually 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:37.560 in Toronto. 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:38.440 Yeah. 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:41.600 The other hey, what about this guy, Colin Sixton is 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:43.800 averaging twenty seven points a game for the Caves. 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:43.959 Now. 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:45.680 He's only played nine games. He's missed the couple, but 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.320 he's shooting fifty three percent from the field and fifty 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.880 percent from downtown. Only three and a half sitts the game, 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:52.760 but a steal and a half as well, And obviously 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:55.720 the Calves have been a much better team, and you 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:57.760 know this season, last season, but twenty seven a game 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:01.439 over nine games, that's that's not just the tiny sample size, 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:01.639 you know. 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:03.879 Yeah, I had him in the mix as well, but 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:05.760 I kind of think he's just on fire right now. 0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:09.040 The guy cannot miss from outside, so ergo, his scoring 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:10.720 stats are going to be the same because when you 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.600 look deep into it, he's taking the same kind of shots. 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:16.119 He's doing the same stuff assist wise. Like you're saying, like, 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:18.959 but he is on fire and we just saw him 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:20.840 score twenty straight for the Cavaliers, So how can you 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:21.720 not put him in the mix. 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:24.040 I love the Jaalen Brown pick. I gotta say I 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:25.720 sort of had forgotten about him. I think I was 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:27.480 like task, Like I just you know, we were debating 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:30.159 Jaalen Brown's All Star capabilities last year, so he's obviously 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:31.480 we thought he was a good player, but he's taken 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:33.000 it to the next level. I'm not going to disagree 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:36.960 with that. Another hate what about this guy? Maybe Julius Randall. Yeah, 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:38.479 I mean what he's doing. I mean, like, I know, 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.080 he's sort of always had good numbers, but they're up 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.639 this year and obviously it's impacting the knicks in the 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:46.560 wind calumn as well, so I think he's added some 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:47.560 things to his game as well. 0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:49.440 Yeah, he has to do a ton So this missed 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.080 out on his triple double again last week. 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:54.920 So there's a lot of guys. It sounds like most 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.120 people probably Jeremy Grant, Christian Wood, and then Jillen Brown 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.000 is an interesting pick. So let's hear from you. 0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:02.920 And for me of Brown is because like Task to say, 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.760 and it is harder to go to good from good 0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.160 to great, and we've already We've known that Jalen Brown 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.119 is a good player basically since his rookie year. But 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:11.720 you look at the list of guys who have won 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.560 Most Improved in the past couple of seasons, it's Brandon Ingram, 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.880 Pascal Siakam, Victor Oladipo Jannis back in the day. They're 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.960 going from established good player too, you're making All Star teams, 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:22.320 and I think Jalen Brown is going to be an 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:22.720 All Star. 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.560 That's a good point, Paul George. I think comes to 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.520 mind too, right, he sort of did that leap and 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.280 that's sort where my mind goes to when I think 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:31.960 Jaylen Brown. So yeah, no, for sure, if that trend continues, 0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.040 then he could win this link all right, sixth man 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.000 of the Year so far tasks who you got top three. 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.360 And number three? I'm going with the Philadelphia seventy six ers. 0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:45.520 Shake Milton, what a name. Shake. He has been everything 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:49.520 the seventy six Ers have hoped for. Seventeen points off 0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:52.680 the bench. He's in the mix for most improved player 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:54.640 as well, going from nine points a game last year 0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.840 to seventeen this year. Nearly fifty percent for a guard. 0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.879 That's a lovely Doc Rivers and Darryl Morey talked him 0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.240 up in the preseason. This guy's amazing. This guy's amazing. 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.640 Usually when front office people talk about a player like that, 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:09.879 they're just kind of bigging him up. And then in 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.800 the regular season he drops off. This guy skyrocket, he's 0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:15.320 doing great. Number two. You guys mentioned him, Chris Bouche. 0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.199 He's not your typical six man for the Toronto Rappers. 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:19.199 He's a backup center. 0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:20.200 I don't know. 0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:21.160 Yeah, he's a backup center. 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.120 He's a backup big. He's an anomaly. He is one 0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.359 of a kind. You watch him out there. He's got 0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:29.320 a unique shot. But he you know, when you think 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.640 about a six man, you don't think about blocking shots, 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.080 but he does a lot of it. He just does 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.879 a lot. So from this list, I think Chris Bouche 0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.520 probably does the most because he blocks two and a 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.440 half shots a game, fifteen and a half points, sixty 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.480 percent from the floor, forty eight percent from three. Yeah, 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.399 that's wild. Is that going to come down? Yes, but 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:52.640 still hitting a couple of game. That's that is instrumental 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:54.960 for the Reps right now because they're not getting anything 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.880 from their center play. And yes, it's most likely Chris 0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.200 Bouche will become a center. I don't know who. That's 0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.480 what Nick Nurse does. He's a mastermind. Maybe he's gonna 0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:05.600 keep starting. Aaron Bain's playing for twelve minutes and Bouchet 0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:07.760 the better player coming off the bench, but at number 0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.520 one with a bullet. The sixth man of the year 0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.640 right now, it's Jordan Clarkson. This guy's found his spot 0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:15.320 in the league. You think back to his Laker days. 0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.480 He's playing behind Kobe Bryant and he's starting. Then he 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.640 went to the bench and he wasn't great off the bench. 0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.680 Then he just wasn't in his lane. He just didn't 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:27.240 know that I'm a score that's what I do. And 0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.960 then he went to Cleveland and he played behind Lebron 0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:32.920 and he still couldn't find his role. So that's that's 0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:35.280 the point. When you had two tries and you haven't 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:38.560 found your role, maybe you're not gonna find in this league. 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.880 But then he got traded to Utah, had a really 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:43.399 good season last year, you know, only had half a 0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.720 season there, and the Jazz are kicking ass this year 0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.480 and Jordan Clarkson's going along for the ride. Top bench 0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:52.280 player with seventeen and a half points per game, forty 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.400 nine from the floor, forty three from three. Those are 0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.640 great Jordan Clarkson numbers from blowing kisses to the jenners 0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:02.440 to ballin' he is. He is the best Jordan Clarkson 0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.720 I've ever seen. You know, he was just he looked 0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:07.000 like a guy who is just going to sort of 0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.000 float around the league for a long time. But he's 0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.960 found a spot. He should never leave the bench ever. Ever. Ever, 0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:14.359 He's in a perfect spot. 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:18.040 He's a contract deal, too, isn't he. He's not paid 0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.720 a ton if I remember correctly, fifty. Yeah, so he's 0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:24.120 making like eleven and a half. That means or something 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.439 like that, twelve maybe this year. That's a hell of 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.600 a bargain deal for Jordan Clarkson coming off through bench. 0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:31.360 So you're right, he's just having a super efficient year 0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:33.840 off the pine. And he is sort of like the 0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.640 prototypical six man you think of, a guy comes in 0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.520 and just shoots and scores and gets you back in 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.880 games or builds leads and stuff like that, and can 0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:43.800 be out there in closing games too. Okay, Clarkson is 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:45.520 a task his pick. You agree with that one trade 0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:46.520 you have somebody else. 0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.040 I've got almost the same ballot as Task Clarkson is 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:52.159 my guy for the number one slot because he's the 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:52.679 new j R. 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:53.000 Smith. 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.080 He even dresses awesome to come into games, and then 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:56.840 he goes out there and shoots every time. He's taking 0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.200 a lot more threes this year, just like the rest 0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.199 of the Jazz are really helping him score efficiently. Bouche 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:06.720 number two. But my number three I got Patty Mills. Yeah, Yeah, 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.760 Patty Mills. He's kind of emblematic of a fun Spurs bench. 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.240 He picks up the pace when he comes in there. 0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.680 The Spurs second unit, I think is a lot more 0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:16.679 fun to watch than their first unit and part of 0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.920 the reason they've been so successful this year. But you 0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.120 could easily go Shake Milton. The only reason I'm really 0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.960 picking Patty over Shake Patty over shit. 0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:26.520 Crazy. 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.439 But the only reason I'm going with Patty Mills over 0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:32.000 Shake Milton is because I got some more sixers coming 0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.240 up in some awards here, so I wanted to sprinkle 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.360 sprinkle some other stuff here for the Spurs. 0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:38.760 Okay, Well, Leah, sounded like you're very happy with Patty 0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.280 Mills making Tray's top three at least. 0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:43.600 Yeah, he's having a career best year coming off the bench, 0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.960 shooting the ball, scoring points, and I think he's been 0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.880 instrumental to the Spurs in their wins. So I'm glad 0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.680 that Patty is getting that recognition because the Spurs, you know, 0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.400 they're up and down. Watch Sometimes you want to watch them, 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.680 sometimes you don't. But Patty, he's really grown in that 0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:00.520 role there in San Antonio. And always say this about 0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:03.400 Patty that I don't think he shot selection has changed 0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:05.120 all that much in his entire career. I just think 0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.640 he knocks him in now. At the start, he used 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.120 to just fire away and a bit like Jordan Clarkson, 0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.280 you know, the first couple of season was like he 0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.200 just fires away. But now they go in and that 0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.320 makes a huge difference. So but absolutely I agreed that 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.360 Jordan Clarkson would be the clear favorite to win this 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:21.160 award right now. 0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.400 You had some fun talking to Shane Hill the hammer 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.240 about Patty Mills. Really got around to listening to it. 0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:29.000 That came up. For sure, it was great. He's sounded 0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:30.800 like a big Paddy Mills fan himself. 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:32.240 Yeah, yeah, he was. 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.520 I mean Shane Hill was a bit of a smaller 0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:37.400 player too in terms of his stature, and he used 0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:38.640 to go out there and fire, and so I think 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.280 he sees a little bit of Paddy Mills and himself 0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.000 there and also played in San Antonio under Greg Popovich 0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.480 too there the hammert So yeah, great. 0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.760 Awesome, all right, Clarkson all of us taking him for 0:29:48.880 --> 0:29:51.200 the leader right now as six man of the Year 0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:52.960 because I agree with you, guys. No to add on 0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.080 to Bouche and what he's doing off the bench for 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.440 the Raptors. He leads the league in true shooting percentage 0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:03.800 and offensive reading. Right, Chris Bouche, wild wild times we're 0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:05.720 living in here in twenty twenty one. All right, Rookie 0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:07.880 of the Year. I'll get a started with this. I 0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:09.960 think it's pretty cool. First off, how many rookies are 0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.400 making like an impact right now. And now I don't 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:15.840 know if that's maybe a little bit because of COVID 0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:18.880 and all like these like guys missing time and with 0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:20.960 the health and safety protocols, and maybe there's more minutes, 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.120 more opportunities for some of these rooks to get in there. 0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.600 But a lot of guys are like contributing. And we 0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.640 have never here on no dunks pretended to be draft experts, 0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.240 but it does seem and correct me if I'm wrong. 0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.680 Guys like this rookie class is already a little bit 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:38.160 better than most expected. We have fourteen rookies I think 0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.120 it is that are slash were because Killy and Hayes 0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.760 is now out with an injury. Averaging over twenty minutes 0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.600 per game. That's pretty significant. So a lot of guys contributing. 0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:50.880 But my top three Warriors rookie James Wiseman at number three. 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.120 You know, the numbers will not wow you. Actually, with 0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:55.920 all of these guys, the number aren't going to be like, whoa, 0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:57.880 that guy's like a twenty ten already. It's not like 0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.360 that this year with these rookies, but they're impactful. Wiseman 0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.560 has impressed obviously being the starter there for the Golden 0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.240 State Warriors and helping he's out. He has some duds, 0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.080 but then he has some great games where he's like, 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.120 oh yeah, you could see why this guy was such 0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:11.959 a high pick. He could be a you know, a 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.720 building block. And number two because of his impact. Probably 0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:18.800 the most impactful rookie, Tyrese Haliburton with the Kings, fortunately 0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.640 hasn't translated into a ton of win for the Kings, 0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.320 but he helps them. He definitely helps watch the watch 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.560 sacrament of Kings basketball when he's out there averaging eleven 0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.320 three and five. But number one, I'm going with the 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.640 Hornets rookie LaMelo Ball. He's averaging twelve seven and six. 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.719 He leads the rookies in win shares, so he's actually 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.640 having an impact on the w's Now he's only shooting 0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:43.040 forty percent from the field and still like pretty abysmal 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:45.280 for a guard, sixty eight percent from the line, but 0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:47.320 he's hitting over a three and a half per game 0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.520 and it's thirty three percent. You know that you want 0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:51.040 to get that a little bit higher, but he could. 0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.400 And he's just getting more minutes here in the new year, 0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:55.640 he's getting twenty seven minutes per game. Brego is trusting 0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:58.480 him more and more, and he's a human highlight film. 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.400 Money's out there. He must watch televis. So it's close. 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:03.480 I don't know if you guys agreed disagree who you 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.880 have number one? But I got Ball, then Haliburton and 0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.920 then Wiseman, and you could obviously play what about this guy? 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.320 I think with this rookie class, but tasts, what do 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:13.560 you think do you have ball number one. 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.080 MM, you're a wise man, but I think you should 0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:21.360 put James first. James Wiseman. Yeah, I think it's tough 0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.200 to be a center in this league right out the gate. 0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:25.800 The Mell's got the ball. 0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:27.600 Well, no, it's more difficult to be a point guard 0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.120 in this league, right, Yeah, he's playing a point guard. 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.880 Would say the big man defense is the hardest thing 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:34.720 to learn in the NBA. 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:35.560 But I'm sure you're right. 0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.200 Yeah, he doesn't play much anyway, It is a toss up. 0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:42.880 This draft class is phenomenal so far. There's no there 0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.320 isn't one standout. It's sort of like the MVP minus 0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.880 fifteen points per game, but there's like a billion that 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.920 you can you can talk about Haliburton. He was injured. 0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:55.400 I guess that plays a role. But anyway, those guys, yeah, 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:58.440 they have impressed coming out the gate. We talked about 0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.680 this whole this draft class for one three thirty. Well, 0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:04.000 is there is there a Camp miss prospect. No, there 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.680 wasn't a campus prospect. But they're all, you know, playing 0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:08.760 fairly well here to start this season. So it's been 0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:09.800 a pleasant. 0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.160 Surprise, including the number one pick Anthony Edwards. So I 0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.320 think who has impressed some people, at least Patrick Williams 0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.520 obviously the Florists, and Chicago's played well, there's a ton 0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.280 like obviously some knicks as well. Yeah, who do you have? Leley? 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:21.400 Though? 0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.240 At number one? Do you go Wiseman, do you go Bald? 0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:24.080 You got somebody else? 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.200 No, I'm going LaMelo ball to I can excuse the 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.520 shooting for rookies because hardly any rookies come out there 0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.520 and start shooting high percentages or decent percentages straight away. 0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:33.960 It takes a few years to work on that. But 0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.920 Mello's doing the rebounds seven a game, six assists the game, 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.239 and he's lived up to the hype. And I think 0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.280 that's the hardest thing to do for a rookie, because 0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.320 all rookies a hype to some degree. But LaMelo not 0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:46.480 coming from college, you know, playing down in Australia. It 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:49.240 was like, well, he's playing in a lesser league, but 0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.080 he's playing against men, so will that help him? 0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:51.800 Will that hurt him? 0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:53.640 I think he's gone out there, he's come off the bench, 0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.240 he's accepted that role and he's not afraid to take 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.640 those shots either. He again, he's not shooting it great, 0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:00.840 but he's like, listen, if I'm open, I'm gonna take it. 0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:04.280 So I like that about him. I think he's been very, 0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:08.239 very important for the Hornets so far. Wiseman has been good. 0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.840 Wiseman probably started off a little bit better than Mellow, 0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:12.239 but I think Mellow has just gotten a little bit 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.640 more comfortable the last couple of games. So I would 0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:19.839 have Mellow, Wiseman, and either Redwoods or Halliburton, probably Edwards. 0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.600 I suppose number three, but hey, yeah, you know you're 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.719 you're fanangling the numbers a little bit there anyway, So 0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:27.279 it's really down to one and two, and I think 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:28.520 it's lamellow ball right now. 0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.359 TK talk rook, so you got I got the same 0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.040 exact ballad as you, Skeets wise minute three. I do 0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.359 think he's probably playing the most important minutes playing as 0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.000 a center of the most important defensive spot on the 0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:42.000 basketball courters. You guys know I love defense. 0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:43.680 Yeah, I was like, well you're switching it up now. 0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:44.800 I thought you didn't care about. 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.960 Defense, Skeets. I'm giving you the backstory here. I did 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:52.760 win MIP in high school senior year as I played defense. 0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:57.360 I hate to say I played defense. I was rebounded, 0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.680 I was taking jog as I was setting screened. When 0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:05.239 you're the tallest guy in the school, Why do you 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.560 think I hate defense? I hate him doing my whole life. 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:08.920 Let me shoot pat. 0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.600 Anyways, so I got him at number three, But him 0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.799 playing these important minutes is huge, right, Like he's playing 0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:18.080 on a team that has championship aspirations. They're probably not 0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:19.799 getting to the finals this year, but this is a 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:23.160 team that is a championship organization. They've got Steph Curry, 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:25.960 They've got Draymond Green. What he's doing is impressive for 0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.200 a guy who is super young to have to actually 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.120 step into a playoff situation. Palli Burton is the guy 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.640 that every team wants. He's the next andre Iguidala to me, 0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.400 from a connectivity standpoint, they don't play the same, but 0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.879 just the extra juice he gives you on the court, 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.400 the ability to do anything you need and the ability 0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.240 to keep the ball moving and make the right decision. 0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.920 Incredible from a rookie. But LaMelo is the guy. He 0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.680 is a star. He's a building block. He's leading rookies 0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:50.960 in points, rebounds, assists, and steals and he needs to 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.520 play more. Start him already. What are you waiting for. 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:55.440 Yeah, I think we could get an awful close to 0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.960 that trivia question with the rookie class, can you name 0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.440 the guy of all the rookies who play is the 0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:06.120 most minutes per game? It's not anyone we've said, Sorry, 0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:12.440 who'd you say, Trey, No, it's nobody we've mentioned. No, no, no, 0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:15.160 the guy that went top five. I'll give you that. 0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:16.880 So there's a hell of a giveaway. 0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:20.400 Okay, who is the fifth draft remember any more? 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:21.399 A Coro? 0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:25.240 I think that's right, Isaac A Coral thirty seven point 0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:29.280 four minutes per game, which seems like what it seems 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.919 almost like an error run basketball reference. But yeah, gets 0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:33.040 a lot of burn from them out there. They're like, 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:34.880 what you can do? Contribute on both ends? He's been 0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:36.040 all right too, he'd be in the mix, is well, 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.600 I guess I'm getting out here. But again, like definitely 0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:42.920 uh quickly for the Knicks. Is impressed, Peyton Pritchard for 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.160 the Celtics, and we're gonna do that. Cole Anthony We've 0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:47.439 talked about a little bit, so there's been a lot, 0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.239 so it's been pretty impressive. But yeah, who's the star 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.239 who will be? Like that's a fun question. Who will 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.120 be the guy from this rookie class in five years, Like, 0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.920 is it is Lamello? Is it Wiseman, is it Edwards? 0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.760 Is it Patrick Williams? I mean, I can talk myself 0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.040 into any of those guys being them, to be honest, 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:05.359 So let's just from hear it. Yeah, he's played well. 0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:06.839 I wanted to get Williams in there. He has played 0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.080 really well for them. I think, all right, defensive player 0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:12.520 of the year Lee talk defense. We almost gave this 0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:15.040 one to Trey just to anger it. 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:17.440 I sort of wish you did give it to train 0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.200 in the end, because when I dug into this one 0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.399 last night, I went down a rabbit hole and I 0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:24.719 was like, I shouldn't have volunteered to do this one 0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.160 because because the Lakers have the best defensive rating in 0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.560 the league right now, then it's the Cavs and the Knicks, 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:34.000 and I'm like, okay, come on, that can't be right. 0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:37.360 Then you got the Grizzlies, Okay, the seventy six is fine. Okay, 0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:39.320 that's a good defensive team. Then you still got the Mavericks. 0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:43.080 Remember they started off the season pretty hot, So I'm like, okay. 0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:44.239 This must be the jazz around there. 0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.600 Then around the Jazz and next in seventh. 0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.520 But okay, I'll start at number three on my Defensive 0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.240 Player of the Year leader board. I'm going with Miles Turner. 0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:53.000 Now. 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.200 He's largely here because he's averaging a massive four point 0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.959 two blocks per game. Now, he probably would be higher 0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:00.840 on other leaderboards because people will sort of look at 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:03.799 those defensive stats and say, wow, well he must be 0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.160 doing well, he must be great defensive player. The paces 0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:09.120 are only thirteenth in defensive rating, though, and the more 0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:11.080 I looked into I thought, I don't even know if 0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.440 he's their best defensive player. I think at Sibonus, the 0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:16.120 numbers say Sibonis they're better when he's on the bench, 0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:20.120 and I'm like, that doesn't jive with what I'm seeing 0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:25.879 out Come on, come on. And also Myles Turner. I'm 0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:27.759 reluctant also to put him higher because his pick and 0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.839 roll defense has improved, but it still needs needs work. 0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:33.879 So he's getting the stats. So he gets in there 0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:34.840 at number three. 0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:36.440 Okay, and he's out right now with an injury. Of 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:37.720 course he needed there with an injury. 0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:39.000 With the hand injury. 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:41.600 Yeah, at number two of my Defensive Player of the 0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:42.239 Year leader board. 0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:43.520 I'm going with Kawhi. 0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:47.040 Leonard, now fourth in Steel's third in total plus minus 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.080 in the league. When he's on the court, no surprise, 0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.319 the Clippers are much better at both ends of the floor, 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.960 but they have the equivalent equivalent of about the third 0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:57.160 best D in the league. And when he sits, it's 0:38:57.239 --> 0:39:02.200 pretty much as bad as the Kings, the Wizards, Bulls, Wolves, Blazers. 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:06.240 So clearly Kawi Leonard. He's won this award before twice. 0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:08.120 I think he's a two time defensive Player of the Year. 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:11.520 But the Clippers D in total is only fifteenth in 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.000 the league. But when he's out there, they are a 0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:17.239 much better team, and the Clippers have quietly improved after 0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:19.319 a bit of a sluggish start. His team lost by 0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.439 fifty points though as well. So I can't give a guy, 0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:24.800 you know, to defensive player of the Year when you 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:28.440 lose that by that much at home. But at number one, Sketsy, 0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.359 you might get angry here, but anyway, I've got I've 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:32.520 got to go with it defensive number one. 0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:33.440 On my Defensive Player of. 0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:35.520 The Year leader bought, I'm going with Rudy Gobert, but 0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.880 it probably should actually be Mike Conley because when Mike. 0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:40.760 Cutts Rudy Gobert. 0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.080 Mate, you got to listen. 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.200 When Mike Conley's on the court, the Jazz have the 0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:47.239 best d in the league by a mile, and when 0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.200 he sits second worst. But I'm going with Rudy Gobert 0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.160 because you know the numbers. 0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:55.760 Because it's a good listen. 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.360 He has more work to do short than Mike Conley. 0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.360 But I think the Jazz seventh best defensive team in 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.360 the league, and Rudy Gobert does lead the league in 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.319 defensive field goal percentagele that's how geeky do you want 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:08.040 to get with these stuff? 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:11.680 He's like, Rudy Golbert is the king of the advanced 0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:13.920 defensiveness exactly exactly. 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.120 But again that the numbers will tell you. For the Jazz, 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.200 Mike Conley is their most impactful defensive player. I know 0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.160 the eye test, Man, It's different, isn't it. You know, 0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.120 You're like, Wow, who would you rather have out there 0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:30.400 protecting the paint? Mike Mike Conley on the on the perimeter. 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.400 But Mike Conley has played all but fifty minutes this 0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:36.799 season alongside Rudy go The reason his defensive reading is 0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:38.920 so good is because he's on the court with Rudy Gobert. 0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:40.600 I know, I know, but I don't think we we 0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.000 we give him the credit that he deserves. He's a 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:44.680 very good defensive player, Mike Conley. 0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.239 But Okay, I'm fine, I can agree with that, but 0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:48.439 I wouldn't say he's the better. 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.000 I know, I know, I'm going with Rudy Gobert, but 0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:53.000 I'm just saying again, when you when you dig into 0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:55.000 these numbers and you just go, oh my god, like 0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.560 like Conley's like the best defense in the league by 0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:00.680 a mile when he's out on court, not with Rudy. 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:02.880 It's not the same case with Ruby. So the Jazz 0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:04.880 seventh in the league and defense, you know, you always 0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:07.439 expect them to be somewhere in that top five mix. 0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.239 So I think that will improve because again I don't 0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:13.720 see the cads in the Knicks staying there all season long. Right, Okay, 0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:17.800 does have an impact, But yeah, I'm going with Rudy Gobert. 0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:19.640 But I'm like, Mike Conley sort of is going to 0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:20.680 be the one presenting him. 0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:23.360 With that award. 0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:25.719 Rudy, at least if he wins it, he should let 0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.640 Mike Conley carry the war around it'll be his third one. 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.560 It's like, all right, man, just carried around, you've never 0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.880 made an All Star team. You can hang onto my trophy. 0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:33.360 Yeah. 0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.799 The shocking part herely to me is not that you 0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:37.560 have Rudy Gobert number one. It's maybe who you have 0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:39.160 to at two and three or who you didn't have 0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:42.200 at two and three. I think Anthony Davis would still 0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.279 warrant a lot of defensive player of the reports and 0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.920 a Joelle embiid as we talked about. So, okay, Tash, 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:48.680 what do you think of Lee's list there? And you 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:49.839 can touch on coldly if. 0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:50.080 You want to. 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:52.920 I mean, let's just throw it at LEAs. You got 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.399 to stop looking at defensive stats. You got you went 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:58.120 into the trade machine this year. Just just start with that. Man, 0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.759 This is a this is a lot too for you. 0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:05.120 Miles Cerner is a great defender. I think he could 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.000 he could be at the top. But Anthony Davis is 0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:09.920 leading a Lakers defense that is number one in the 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:13.800 league by a pretty good amount, which is shocking to me. 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.839 Anthony Davis is not having a great offensive year by 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:21.439 his standards whatsoever, But him and Lebron have somehow got 0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:23.600 everybody on that team to play defense, even though they 0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:25.560 lost Avery Bradley, who was the starter for much of 0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:28.680 the year, they lost Danny Green, they lost Dwight Howard, 0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.400 and then they stopped in some some good defenders, some 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.400 not so good defenders, and they've got the number one defense. 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:35.400 I think a d would probably get it. If you 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:38.319 look back and see that Giannis won it last year 0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:41.680 with the number one defense, you know it sure seems 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:43.919 like Anthony Davis would be given that nod this year, 0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:47.160 and he was pretty close last year as well. So yeah, 0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:51.880 I did not volunteer for this award because I don't 0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.160 like looking at defensive numbers. I don't think they mean 0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:58.520 all that much. It's it's really just about impacting the game. 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.680 And yeah, is really really good, but they should be 0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.880 even better. And Miles Turner is really really good. I 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.479 think they should be even better. So yeah, I think 0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:11.720 just even looking at the best defensive teams is probably 0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:13.759 the most important metric to look at. 0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:17.000 What do you got TK, Well, I actually got Myles 0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:19.640 Turner as my number one because I love looking at 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.600 the stats. This is actually the worst award because you 0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:23.440 got to look at the stats. He is by far 0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:25.880 the best rim protector in the league. Right now, the 0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.640 Pacers have the league best defense when he's on the court. 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.440 He's also averaging a steal and a half as a 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.880 big guy, four point two blocks, leading the league, and 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.640 the lowest defensive field goal percentage at the rim while 0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:39.560 challenging the most shots at the rim. Rim defense is 0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:42.200 the biggest part of defense in the NBA because a 0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.160 dunk is still the best shot in basketball, so if 0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:46.560 you're able to deter them, then that's good. The only 0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:48.960 knock on Turner is that he doesn't rebound, but Demanta 0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.359 Sabonis does rebound. Lee like you're saying, you would maybe 0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:54.520 think that Demonta Sabonis is the best defender on the Pacers, 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:55.960 but he's not very good at the rim. To be 0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:57.840 quite honest, the other guys I would have in the 0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:00.600 mix jowel Embiid. He gives you the rebounding that Turner doesn't, 0:44:00.640 --> 0:44:02.719 and the pace are The Sixers have been good, and 0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.799 Rudy Gobert obviously still elite, but I've got Embiid at 0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:09.200 number two over Rudy o'bert because Embiid doesn't have a 0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.440 lockdown guy like Mike Conley out there helping him. 0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:15.359 Okay, well, I like everybody getting all these guys in here, 0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:17.360 I go Rudy Gobert. I actually think he's sort of 0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.839 running away with it at the one month in mark. 0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:23.480 Although all these other guys are phenomenal defenders Turner Davis, Embiid, yes, 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.520 Mike Conley as well, but you know, Rudy second best 0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.880 defensive rating, second most defensive win share, second most blocks, 0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.960 third most rebounds, and like that's his role, his goal. 0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:35.160 Like what I love about these Rudy Gobert lines you're 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.680 seeing from all these Jazz wins is like, not Rudy 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:40.640 eighteen twenty twenty two points, It's like thirteen points, and 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.160 then there's twelve thirteen rebounds, and then it's like three blocks, 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.000 and then we know how much he just deters as well. 0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:48.279 And yeah, you're right, the Jazz team defense feels like 0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.959 it should be higher, like, but seventh is still good. 0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.160 And I'm sure if we really, you know, dig into it, 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.200 like I don't have it in front of you, what's 0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.000 the gap between the second best defense in the league 0:44:58.000 --> 0:44:59.959 and the seventh best defense in the league this early 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.200 the season. I'm sure it's pretty close, though, I do 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:05.319 agree with I think Task said at the Lakers are 0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.520 sort of a you know, a marginal or not marginally 0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.080 quite impressively a little bit better than whoever's in second. 0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.279 But I go, Rudy Gobert, let's hear from you. Guys. 0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.399 No one wanted that award. That was the last one 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:16.640 filled in in our document. 0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:17.239 You know. 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.080 I asked Tasser Lee, who wants it? And Lee put 0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.360 up his little emoticon hand. So I was like, Okay, 0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.600 I guess Lee's into it. I knew Task was avoiding it. 0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:25.920 He was like, I don't want to do this. I 0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:28.520 didn't want to do it, obviously, but I signed up. 0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:32.240 For Coach of the Year rather than talk about. 0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:33.560 Well that's the thing though, with defense, I think it 0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:35.960 is more about sort of eye test and feel. It's 0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.560 like they are just a better defense than this. That's 0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:40.200 necessarily right. 0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:42.520 Because like look at Andre Drummond. Look at Andre Drummond's 0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.440 defensive numbers. Yeah, okay, and you just got Downe talking 0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:47.120 about the Casby and one of the best defensive teams. 0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:49.480 He leaves like rebounding by a mile. Yeah, he's got 0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.120 tons of blocks and steels. I mean, he's a decent defender. 0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:54.279 But we don't even We hadn't even included him in 0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:55.680 the conversation here, so what up with that? 0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:58.200 Yeah, and Larry Nance Junior, I believe leads the league 0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:01.359 in total steals and deflections. Right, you wouldn't know one's 0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.839 saying Larry Nance Junior is in contentent of defense. 0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:04.480 We play of the year. 0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.839 But he's doing this counting numbers and it's having an 0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:07.880 impact on his team. 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.440 And Isaac accorro leads the league in minutes played per 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:12.879 game for rookies. Nobody's talking about. 0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:14.399 And the six man's up to twenty seven. 0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:18.440 Again, we're gonna win the championship. Yes, we have determined that. Okay, well, 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:20.239 maybe the camps are in running for Coach of the Year. 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.120 That's our final award, Trey, you wanted this over defensive 0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:23.680 Player of the Year. 0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:23.839 Man. 0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.880 Let's talk about guys in well, I was gonna say suits, 0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.080 but they're not in suits, wear polos. 0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:31.960 So yeah, let's talk about guys in quarter zips. Let's 0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:35.520 talk about guys named Steve who often wear corner zips. 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:37.759 Let me tell you, for personal experience, Coach of the 0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:42.520 Year candidates number three for me? You know it, Billy Donovan. 0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.960 The holes made one change in the offseason. They brought 0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:49.120 in a new coach. They said it's time for Billy ball, 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:52.359 and now we all recognize that the balls are one 0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:56.480 hundred totally and fully back. Their record could be even 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:58.560 better than it is. But there are so many guys 0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:00.719 that you could put into this number three spot for 0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:04.160 teams that have kind of exceeded expectations. My number two 0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:07.239 on the ballot, Taylor Jenkins of the Memphis Grizzlies, talked 0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:10.880 about it on Wednesday's show, My biggest surprise of the season. 0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:13.320 So far, they've gotten five games from Jaw and Jaron. 0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:16.040 They're seven and six, playing as a top five defense, 0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:18.520 and I think defensive coaches get a lot of cred 0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:20.359 in the Coach of the Year voting because it's all 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:22.880 about scheme and it's all about buy in. Both of 0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.560 those things are a factor for Taylor Jenkins. Here. Everybody's 0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.120 playing hard and they're forcing a whole bunch of turnovers. 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:31.279 It's working in Memphis or as that song goes, well, 0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:34.560 Gonay mayl fizz. But my number one by a mile, 0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:37.440 Doc Rivers is coach of the Year for me right now. 0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:40.319 The best record in the Eastern Conference. More importantly, it 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:42.720 looks like he made sense of this roster pretty quickly. 0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:45.320 They've been a ragtag bunch. They've had Embiden, Simmons and 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.839 Harris there for the majority of it. Embiiden Harris look 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.040 particularly unlocked. Doc Rivers just seems to know how to 0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:53.879 get the best out at Tobias. Harris has n't making 0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:57.239 quick decisions, has him getting good shots and moving the ball, 0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.440 and Embiid, like we talked about, is an MVP candidate. 0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.440 The last piece the puzzle will be figuring out how 0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.960 to get the best from Ben Simmons. But Doc Revers 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:06.160 has figured things out so far the first month of 0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.160 the season, so I have some confidence you'll get the 0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.280 best out of Ben Simmons as the season progresses. 0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:12.560 Lee, what do you think? This one's a tough one? 0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:14.160 I think because there's so many teams that feel like 0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.200 they're eight and six or seven and seven that you 0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:17.960 may be heading into the season you're like, ah, they 0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.080 might be like at this point in the year, like 0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:23.279 lucky to have four wins, right, So what do you 0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:25.080 think of Trey's less and then who you would have? 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:25.560 Yeah? 0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:26.319 I like that list. 0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:28.480 I like Jenkins because I think they really did so 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:30.759 well when John Moran was out, and of course they 0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:32.200 haven't had Jaron Jackson junior. 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.000 So I think that's really important. 0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:37.080 I think the Doc Rivers bump is like, Okay, he's 0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:39.839 got the sixers playing to that level. It's like, can 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:42.040 you unlock this talent? Can you get them to work together? 0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:44.279 The offense has looked so much better than it has 0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:46.360 in years gone by, so I think he deserves credit 0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:50.120 for that. Then it comes down to, like, Frank Vogel 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.279 didn't win it last year for the Lakers, But if 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:55.399 the Lakers win, let's say they win sixty games this year, 0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.279 how can did he not be Coach of the Year, 0:48:58.280 --> 0:48:59.520 you know, because it's not like, well he got it 0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:01.279 last year, like coach Budenholz is not going to get 0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:04.279 it even if the Milwaukee Bucks win from here on out, 0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.000 He's just not going to get it. But I think 0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:08.480 someone like Frank vogue could just be like, well, let's 0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:10.359 just give it to him, you know, why not? I mean, 0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:12.520 he's got the Lakers playing really well, ty Lu's got 0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:15.600 the Clippers playing really well as well. And what does 0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:19.000 this award? Is this award about improvement over last season? 0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:20.960 A new coach in a new situation or is it 0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:23.040 just like, let's just give it to this guy like 0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:24.960 Nate Bjorkrin. You know the faces. 0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:26.319 They're surprising as well, and. 0:49:26.280 --> 0:49:28.799 They've lost their last couple. They were eight four, they 0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:31.360 got off to a good start. So so many coaches 0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:35.240 have a different storyline or a narrative that they could choose. 0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:38.319 I think ultimately, though, because Vogel didn't win it last year, 0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:40.560 his record could put him in the box seat to 0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:40.799 win it. 0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:42.839 I can't believe you didn't go with one of your 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:45.080 two favorite teams in like a bigger staff with the 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:47.960 Calves or TIBs with the next I mean there's a 0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:49.800 five hundred teams right now that not a lot of 0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:50.480 people expect it. 0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:50.719 Yeah. 0:49:50.719 --> 0:49:52.759 I'll get to the Knicks when we talk about the 0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:55.560 games a little bit there later on. But yeah, look 0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:57.920 they've had an improvement and Bickerstaff has got the Cavs 0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:00.759 playing exciting basketball as well. Will even out his stein 0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:01.920 it though, that's the question. 0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:03.960 Task Coach of the Year take us home? Who do 0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:05.160 you have the top year leader board? 0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:09.439 Mm? You guys named all the coaches. I think if 0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:13.160 Nate Jorkrin didn't lose Miles Turner, his best defender. Last 0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:16.279 couple of games, everybody be singing a little bit of 0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:19.640 a different tune for Nate Jorkrin because he really has 0:50:19.680 --> 0:50:22.800 those guys playing. They they have impressed me a lot. 0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:26.640 And so yeah, you named them all though, and we've 0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:29.880 got a top ten coach of the year ballot. That's uh. 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.399 I don't think we just like, say, Nate Yorkrin's name 0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:32.799 as well. 0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.680 It's a good name, great name, because if we're naming 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.760 Doc Rivers in helping the Sixers, oh, you can maybe 0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.239 argue they were helped out with the personnel they brought 0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:43.000 in to add a little more shooting around them. So 0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.360 maybe Executive of the Year to Mary there. But whatever, 0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:49.719 what about Tyleru with Doc's old team, they're damn good too. 0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:52.200 And he's the new coach. There's the new voice. I 0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:54.400 think they're playing a little more fun. But no one 0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:56.600 wants to talk about the Clippers. Everyone's done talking about 0:50:56.600 --> 0:50:58.560 them more. We're waiting until the playoffs with them. 0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:01.160 But also pretty awesome last year in the regular season. 0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:03.279 I know they were, but you know so, I mean, 0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:05.680 I guess, yeah, the Sixer did disappoint they weren't. It's 0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:07.160 not like they were out of the playoffs, so they 0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:09.600 were still winning games. But I hear you that's fine, 0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:11.440 it's your list, dock at the top. Let's hear from 0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:13.640 you guys out there. That worked really well. I think 0:51:13.920 --> 0:51:15.600 going to our top three candids. So let's hear from 0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:17.640 you guys in the stream team and tweet at us 0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:22.040 at no dunk's inkor Okay, well, let's get through those 0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:25.680 games from last night. Only three on taskt has started. 0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:28.080 Lebron and the Lakers opened a long trip here by 0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.279 beating the Bucks one thirteen, one oh six. 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:33.919 Big takeaway, Well, the Lakers can do whatever they want. 0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:35.759 That's the biggest takeaway. When it came down to the 0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:39.440 last few minutes, Lebron said, all right, I'm taking over now. 0:51:40.160 --> 0:51:43.280 A part of that is the Milwaukee Bucks. And we've 0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:47.239 talked about the Lakers already. Their defense is phenomenal. They 0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:49.160 know who the heck they are when it comes down 0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:53.000 to winning time. Everybody just hang around and watched Lebron 0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:56.680 do his thing. They're great. The Bucks, on the other hand, 0:51:56.760 --> 0:52:03.120 they're not causing fear and another team whatsoever. They keep 0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:05.920 winning games, they definitely do. But when it comes down 0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:08.560 to crunch time, when it comes down to playing really, 0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:11.879 really good teams. The other team on the other side 0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:14.920 thinks that they can win. I think that's that's just 0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:17.480 the way it works. They believe that if they find 0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:20.280 something that works, that Mike Bunenholzer isn't going to change 0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:26.040 enough in his scheme to adapt. And it keeps showing through. 0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:30.680 They just can't find a way to beat these great teams. Now, 0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:32.560 Chris Middleton has the ball more in his hands than 0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:34.759 Yannis does at the end of games, which is kind 0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:36.400 of like the playoff last year, which is probably the 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:38.920 better recipe. But I think when it comes down to it, 0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:40.759 Drew Holliday needs to get it more. When it comes 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:42.480 down to it, it's just guys who can make shots. 0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:44.680 And Giannis isn't a creator when it comes down to 0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.440 the last few minutes. He's got to play second man's 0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:50.000 or third man. And they've got to figure this out. Now, 0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:52.080 they've got to figure this out before they get to 0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:56.080 the postseason. They just need more bucket makers. And so yeah, 0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.879 they can just like in a game, they'll get down 0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:01.360 to the last few minutes, they'll beat the bad teams. 0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:03.279 Just like in the regular season. They're gonna win a 0:53:03.320 --> 0:53:05.200 lot of games, but when it comes down to the postseason, 0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.200 this was this was exactly what we saw with the 0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:10.880 Miami Heat last year. The Heat figured it out. Bucks 0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:15.000 couldn't adapt and Lebron just kept getting switches good night. 0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:17.760 I mean even Montrez Harrald in the post kept getting 0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:20.840 switches good night. It's just too easy. And then the 0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:23.080 offensive end doesn't worry too like like I mentioned, so 0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:28.480 just just scared, scared for the Buck's future. But the 0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:31.000 Lakers are obviously, yeah number one with the bullet they're awesome. 0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:33.480 Yeah, the Lakers offense there for a good stretch down 0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:37.240 in the fourth there was like post up Trez, post 0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:39.960 up ad the double has to come. It's going to 0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:42.319 come because there's a smaller Bucks player on them, and 0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:44.280 then those guys are just gonna kick it to KCP 0:53:44.400 --> 0:53:47.320 in the corner or Caruso wide open in the corner 0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:49.120 right Trey. Like it felt like that happened like four 0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:51.320 or five times. And good on Vogel and Lebron and 0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:52.880 the Lakers for going back to back to back to back. 0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:55.360 Just keep running into the ground because, as Tass said, 0:53:55.719 --> 0:53:58.200 boonholes are slow to adapt or switch up the defense, 0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:01.080 like maybe try something else, you know, Like I think 0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:02.880 in that instance, I always think of someone like Nick 0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.480 Nurse might try something else there. Let's go zone or 0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:08.040 let's drop back in coverage and let's not switch so easily. 0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:08.839 But what did you think? 0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:11.480 Yeah, I think it was that halftime of this game, 0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:14.200 right that Shaq said the big man is back, and 0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:16.040 we were talking about, Wow, this is great, this is 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.799 a I love seeing all these big bodies banging down. 0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:22.279 But yeah, you're right, And honestly, the Bucks should watch 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:24.080 the tape of the Lakers and see how they're getting 0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:25.920 the ball into the post every time, because Jannis did 0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.240 have a nice post bucket there in the fourth quarter, 0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:30.320 hit like a little fade away sort of dink or 0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:33.200 dumper from probably nine or ten feet, And that's how 0:54:33.200 --> 0:54:35.640 he's got to get involved on the offensive end when 0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:39.040 it comes down to clutch time, because he doesn't strike 0:54:39.080 --> 0:54:41.799 fear in people's hearts with regards to having the ball 0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:43.760 on the perimeter when it's the fourth quarter. It seemed 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:45.719 like the Lakers decided we're gonna try and take a 0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:48.040 charge on Giannis every single time he comes into the 0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:50.600 into the lane, and that seems to be the recipe 0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:53.319 for how you stop him, because if you're if you're 0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:55.560 just waiting for him, if you're building the wall there, 0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:57.879 you're either gonna get sent him to the free throw 0:54:57.880 --> 0:54:59.600 line where he has struggled, or you're gonna get the call, 0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:01.319 you're gonna the charge, and it's going back down the 0:55:01.360 --> 0:55:03.560 other way. There's got to be other ways to get 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:06.719 Giannis involved. Offensively, he's a pretty solid passer. I don't 0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:08.840 He's not Lebron passing, as we all know that's his 0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:11.000 greatest strength. But you still got to be able to 0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:12.680 get him the ball in the post. Let him go 0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:15.920 to work, let him get some buckets because he's your MVP. 0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:18.799 And yeah, I agree that Middleton has been ball and 0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:21.720 he's been cooking. He's the best option for the Bucks. 0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:24.840 And also it would be nice to get Drew Holliday involved. 0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:26.960 But there's a reason that Yannis is the MVP. The 0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:29.480 guy can be automatic when he's in the post. Maybe 0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:31.200 he needs a little bit more booty to be able 0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:33.279 to displace people because he's still tall, He's got a 0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:36.719 high center of gravity, especially with those giant shoulders. I 0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:40.000 think that there is opportunities for Giannis to be an 0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:43.440 even better post player. But I don't know, it doesn't 0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:45.400 seem like that's going to be happening right now. The 0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:47.800 good thing for the Bucks is that, yeah, it's scary 0:55:47.840 --> 0:55:49.840 for the future with regards to this season. Maybe they 0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:51.759 don't win the title, but at least Yannas signed before 0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:53.480 the season, because if this was the case right now, 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:54.800 if you just saw him lose to the Nets and 0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:57.880 Lakers and back to back in a back to back scenario, 0:55:58.200 --> 0:55:59.440 that would be really scary. 0:55:59.480 --> 0:55:59.800 Hours. 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:01.680 That's a good point. Yeah, Lakers did a good job 0:56:01.719 --> 0:56:03.759 of keeping Unis off the free throw line last night, 0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:05.440 even though you want to put them there at times. 0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:07.680 Ley he only had four free throw attempts, hit two 0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:10.520 of them, and he had nine turnovers too, so you know, 0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:12.359 obviously you want to shore up that. But what did 0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:13.120 you think from this game? 0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:16.200 Yeah, I would be very concerned about the Bucks because 0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:18.279 in those two big games, as you mentioned, they're trade 0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:21.520 Nets and Lakers. The Nets they won the game. It 0:56:21.560 --> 0:56:23.200 was a close game, of course, but I didn't feel 0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:25.560 this one last night was actually particularly close. I felt 0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:27.920 the Lakers were in complete control of this game because 0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:29.200 well sort of, it was incredible. 0:56:29.200 --> 0:56:30.399 It got to a two point game. 0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:33.080 Yeah, like they made They did make a push there. 0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:35.319 But then the Lakers answer. And one guy who I 0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:37.640 have been critical of the past, who's having actually an 0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:41.160 incredible season for the Lakers is KCP. He is very 0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.640 very important for them offensively and defensively. The numbers right now, 0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:48.040 you know, eleven points a game, he's shooting fifty five 0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:51.359 percent from the field, fifty seven percent from three. Now, 0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:54.040 he doesn't do a tonails in terms of the actual stats, 0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.480 but I think defensively, they know they've got a guys 0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:58.600 like go and defend this guy. Put you on this guy, 0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:01.399 rotate around and if he's he knocks down that shot 0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:04.160 every time. He's really more comfortable in his role. He's grown, 0:57:04.200 --> 0:57:06.879 he's matured as a player and become a very sort 0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:09.160 of quietly important player for what they do. They can 0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:11.080 rely on him now and that's something they couldn't do 0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.400 in the past. So I think that's important. But I 0:57:13.480 --> 0:57:15.920 felt particularly in the second half, and again, you know, 0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:18.560 when we're talking about MVPs this morning, watching Lebron last night, 0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:21.439 I'm like that that is kind of how I still 0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:24.480 feel about Lebron. He's not scared at all of the Bucks, 0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:27.480 not at all. I don't think he's concerned that they 0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:30.160 could take him down in a seven game series, because 0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:33.120 as good as Yannis is, he still forces it a 0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:35.680 little bit too much on the offensive end, and teams 0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:37.680 like the Lakers will say, if you go inside, yeah 0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:39.680 that's a handful, You're a handful inside. But we'll live 0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:41.680 with your shooting the ball anytime you want. We'll just 0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:44.360 live with that right now. And the Lakers instead, they 0:57:44.400 --> 0:57:46.600 have guys who can hit those threes, and it just 0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:49.920 feels like the Lakers have that confidence that they're not 0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:52.680 intimidated by the Milwaukee Bucks so early in the season. 0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:56.040 Still time to improve, but a couple of warriorsome side. 0:57:56.080 --> 0:57:57.560 Hasn't been a great week here for the Bucks. 0:57:57.840 --> 0:57:59.960 No lak A shot nineteen to thirty seven from three 0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:05.080 coldwell Pope had seven of them. Lebron had six. Quick trivia, 0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:07.600 what's the career high for Lebron? Most three is made 0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:11.920 in the game? I my man, Leelis did eight a 0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:14.920 couple times in his career. Yeah, six is a lot 0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:18.640 for Lebron, like and it's it's uh, he's added it though. 0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:21.520 He is feeling comfortable with that three point shot right now. 0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:23.800 He is it's money right now. I will say to 0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:25.800 you if you were, if you were holding out hope 0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:28.480 that Giannis could go back to back to back for MVP, 0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:31.840 It's not a chance not held. There was no chance 0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:33.440 at the start of the season. Tried telling you about it. 0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:35.720 But if you were still holding out hope, I think 0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:38.439 last night it's gone. It's it's just this. I don't 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:39.800 care what he does from here on now. There's no 0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:42.440 way he's doing it. He's still awesome. He's still awesome. 0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:45.280 When Lebron gets that little struck going at that sort 0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:47.480 of top left hand side, that left wing where he 0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:49.400 sort of rubs his shirt, and it's like, oh, yeah, 0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:51.760 I am just gonna I might step back into three, 0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:54.040 I might drive inside, but it doesn't really matter what 0:58:54.040 --> 0:58:57.080 you guys do. I'm just gonna do something here that's disrespectful. 0:58:57.080 --> 0:58:59.120 That's like Lebron, you know, twirling the ball again. 0:58:59.200 --> 0:59:02.000 I was gonna say, as a fans, we're well aware 0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:05.000 of Lebron, Yeah, wiping his body or spinning the ball 0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:08.440 or yeah, looking like this, he's going to be easy. Yeah, okay, 0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:10.680 next game here. Donovan Mitchell helps the Jazz beat the 0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:13.440 Pelicans for a seventh straight win. Trey Big Tickaway. 0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:16.840 Well, as predicted, the Jazz, we're going to go on 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:18.960 a huge winning streak and we're gonna start talking about him, 0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:21.200 Like you said, Skeet's seven straight right now, thanks the 0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:24.480 huge games from Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley. Mitchell, that 0:59:24.520 --> 0:59:26.920 guy was magnificent last night. He's got every shot, he's 0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:29.320 got every pass, and at his best, he finds the 0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:31.400 balance between the two of them and he's in control. 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:33.480 And that's what it's been for a lot of this season. 0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:35.600 He's still an explosive score, but I feel like he's 0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.439 just his decision making in his control of the game 0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:40.600 has gotten a lot better. Mike Conley is giving the 0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:44.440 Jazz exactly what people expected last season. He's another playmaker, 0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:47.400 he's another scorer, and the team is taking a ton 0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:50.120 of threes. With Bogdanovian back. Clearly there's an emphasis on 0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:52.280 getting more attempts up there. Taking forty one a game 0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:55.160 this year thirty five a game last year. Maybe you 0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:57.800 put Quinn Snyder in the Coach of the Year. Yeah, conversation, 0:59:58.080 --> 1:00:00.360 just for that little change, they're saying, Hey, we can 1:00:00.400 --> 1:00:02.800 shoot some jumpers. Let's make them three point jumpers. They're 1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:04.640 going in right now. They've been one of the best 1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:07.080 three point shooting teams in the league, and that opened 1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:09.560 things up for Rudy Gobert to just dunk inside whenever 1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:13.680 he needs to. Mitchell was awesome, but afterwards it was 1:00:13.720 --> 1:00:16.760 all about what people were saying about Donovan Mitchell as 1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:19.520 tests went into on what you need to know earlier today, 1:00:19.920 --> 1:00:23.120 just a completely unnecessary conversation. The man had twenty one 1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:25.000 points in the first half and we're trying to decide 1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:26.360 if he's going to be a top five player for 1:00:26.400 --> 1:00:28.880 the rest of his career. Why literally why? 1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:31.240 I think we'll We'll get to that probably and worse 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:35.280 of the week coming up here, Yah shack, it's the 1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:38.120 post game with Donovan Mitchell. Crazy a good win from 1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:40.120 the Jazz. Mike Conley, you're a defensive Player of the 1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:43.120 Year candidate league after the game said, our ability to 1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:46.320 turn up our energy level a couple of notches, especially defensively, 1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:47.960 is making the difference. Because they did turn it up 1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:49.600 in this game, and they have a couple times here 1:00:49.600 --> 1:00:51.800 where they just like it's like suddenly just like you 1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:54.560 can't score on them, and that helps out those huge runs. 1:00:54.560 --> 1:00:56.960 So you know, the Pelly's putting out forty three in 1:00:56.960 --> 1:01:00.720 that first Yeah, that's I mean, the Jazz almost wouldn't 1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:02.200 give up that many more for the rest of the game, 1:01:02.280 --> 1:01:03.800 you know, I mean when I really locked down. I mean, 1:01:03.800 --> 1:01:07.000 the Repelicans have some offensive weapons, but their defense right 1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:08.360 now is need some. 1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:10.680 Work task, anything to add to this one. 1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:13.160 The Pelicans got a lot of things to work on. Yeah, 1:01:13.160 --> 1:01:16.000 they came back with a forty three point first quarter 1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:19.080 because they played a baseball doubleheader. That happens game two. 1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:22.120 It's just like a series. In a playoff series, Game two, 1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:25.160 a team comes back, but man, Eric Blitzo and Lonzo 1:01:25.200 --> 1:01:27.400 Ball stopped going to the rim after the first quarter, 1:01:27.880 --> 1:01:31.560 and they've got some serious shooting problems. The Jazz know 1:01:31.600 --> 1:01:37.360 who they are. The Pellies are still learning. So it's 1:01:37.760 --> 1:01:41.120 tough in the Western Conference. Man, it's just tough. You 1:01:41.200 --> 1:01:44.880 got a great Zion Williamson, but you need some guard. 1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:47.919 Play final game from last night, RJ. Barrett scores twenty 1:01:47.920 --> 1:01:50.400 eight as the Knicks beat the Warriors for their third 1:01:50.560 --> 1:01:54.200 straight victory. Knicks are five hundred lately, eight and eight 1:01:54.240 --> 1:01:57.440 here sixteen games in Again, RJ. Barrett's been cooking over 1:01:57.480 --> 1:01:59.560 his last five He's averaging like twenty two points per game, 1:01:59.600 --> 1:02:02.120 shooting really really well, what's your big take away from 1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:02.520 this one? 1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:04.800 So the Knicks r eight and eight. They've won three 1:02:04.960 --> 1:02:06.480 in a row, they lost five in a row, and 1:02:06.480 --> 1:02:08.200 now they've won three again. So they're a little bit 1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:11.440 up and down, but their defense has improved clearly. Right now, 1:02:11.800 --> 1:02:14.680 will that be the way the entire season? I'm not 1:02:14.720 --> 1:02:17.760 so sure, but very very good so far. Two big 1:02:17.800 --> 1:02:20.040 talking points though, really for this one. The first one, 1:02:20.440 --> 1:02:23.360 Obi Toppin had two dunks, and the comparisons to how 1:02:23.400 --> 1:02:25.640 he looks to a Muri Startama are just incredible. The 1:02:25.640 --> 1:02:27.400 way that he goes up there dunks and then he 1:02:27.480 --> 1:02:29.320 just the way he runs down he wears that number one. 1:02:29.400 --> 1:02:32.160 It's like he does look like baby Amari out there. 1:02:32.560 --> 1:02:34.960 But of course, the big talking point really is the 1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:38.400 ejection of Draymond Green in the second quarter there for 1:02:38.760 --> 1:02:41.800 yelling at his teammate James Wiseman, and the referee thought 1:02:41.800 --> 1:02:43.800 he was yelling at him, hit him with his second 1:02:43.840 --> 1:02:46.520 tea and he got ejected. Now the Warriors, obviously we're 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:47.400 not happy with that. 1:02:47.880 --> 1:02:48.880 Steve Kerr tried. 1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:54.200 To challenge the ejection, but then Steve Kerr said after 1:02:54.240 --> 1:02:57.720 the game that the ref said, okay, that was a mistake. Yeah, 1:02:57.800 --> 1:03:00.760 I didn't realize that. This is something I think the 1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:02.880 NBA needs to look at, like when a guy gets 1:03:02.920 --> 1:03:04.680 ejected and he's obviously out for the rest of the game. 1:03:04.680 --> 1:03:06.600 But if then they admit at halftime they made the 1:03:06.640 --> 1:03:09.040 mistake with a minute to go in that second half, 1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:12.120 in the second quarter, why not say, okay, we rescind it, 1:03:12.200 --> 1:03:14.520 we bring it back into the game. I mean, now, 1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:16.800 Steve Kerr didn't use this as an excuse. He said 1:03:16.800 --> 1:03:18.800 we were playing badly anyway. We lost that game. We 1:03:18.840 --> 1:03:21.080 deserve to lose. He didn't say we lost because of 1:03:21.120 --> 1:03:24.240 the ejection or point at the rest. But it's so 1:03:24.520 --> 1:03:26.680 disappointing to me that the rest can make such a 1:03:26.720 --> 1:03:28.959 mistake that can have such an impact on a game 1:03:29.680 --> 1:03:31.280 and not be able to correct it even when they 1:03:31.320 --> 1:03:33.480 acknowledge it, with still time to be able to correct 1:03:33.480 --> 1:03:37.320 that mistake, because we you know, with coaches challenges and 1:03:37.360 --> 1:03:39.680 in the last two minutes, you can challenge things and 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:41.840 you can get the call right. Well, this would have 1:03:41.840 --> 1:03:44.240 only cost him just over a minute. Why not just 1:03:44.280 --> 1:03:45.920 put your hand up and say okay, yeah, we got 1:03:45.960 --> 1:03:48.240 that wrong. Sorry, it was a young referee too, so 1:03:49.760 --> 1:03:52.320 that's just a bit of a concern. Again, the Warriors 1:03:52.400 --> 1:03:54.280 aren't using this as an excuse for losing the game, 1:03:54.320 --> 1:03:56.560 but I think there's a way to get this call 1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:59.880 right and to sort of acknowledge that the referees made 1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:01.360 a wrong, costly decision. 1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:05.200 But it was fun to watch, especially in an empty 1:04:05.240 --> 1:04:08.240 arena where you can always hear Draymond Green talk, but 1:04:08.320 --> 1:04:11.080 in an empty arena, it was bouncing off the walls 1:04:11.200 --> 1:04:13.920 like many people in their zoom rooms right now. It 1:04:14.000 --> 1:04:16.200 was just it was echoing, like I turned up the 1:04:16.240 --> 1:04:18.080 volume to make sure I heard what I heard, Like 1:04:18.120 --> 1:04:22.280 he's he yelled at James Wiseman is pissed that Wiseman 1:04:22.280 --> 1:04:25.320 didn't seal off his defender and he turned the ball 1:04:25.360 --> 1:04:27.920 over and it looked like, yeah, he was yelling in 1:04:27.960 --> 1:04:30.680 the direction of Wiseman, but the ref was right there. 1:04:30.880 --> 1:04:32.960 That was weird. It was. It was It was so 1:04:32.960 --> 1:04:36.000 so strange, like the referee must have known, like Steph, 1:04:36.640 --> 1:04:37.200 like they. 1:04:37.280 --> 1:04:40.800 Yeah, everyone was like, he wasn't yelling at you, like everybody, 1:04:41.920 --> 1:04:43.680 Here's what I think what you're saying is a little 1:04:43.720 --> 1:04:47.040 extremely Like they admitted the mistake at halftime. The better 1:04:47.320 --> 1:04:49.080 like way to handle that, I think would have been 1:04:49.160 --> 1:04:51.960 for the referees just to come together there and sort 1:04:52.000 --> 1:04:54.160 of talk it out and go, Yeah, Draymond Green never 1:04:54.160 --> 1:04:56.760 shuts up. He's always yelling at people. I don't think 1:04:56.760 --> 1:04:58.880 he you know, was he yelling at you? 1:04:58.880 --> 1:04:59.080 You know? 1:04:59.600 --> 1:05:01.040 I think it was John Butler, I think was the 1:05:01.040 --> 1:05:03.320 official that actually tossed him, a second year official like, 1:05:03.560 --> 1:05:05.760 and he maybe would have been like a maybe he wasn't, 1:05:05.800 --> 1:05:08.320 you know, Like, I think they just should have maybe 1:05:08.320 --> 1:05:10.280 talked it over a little bit more and said, Okay, 1:05:10.600 --> 1:05:13.439 that was a mistake, you're good, let's just play ball here. 1:05:13.560 --> 1:05:16.640 In my opinion, But you know, at the same time, 1:05:17.280 --> 1:05:19.640 if Draymond doesn't pick up his first technical for just 1:05:19.960 --> 1:05:22.120 you know, arguing with the officials too long, that was 1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:24.000 what the first one was for, right, It wasn't because 1:05:24.040 --> 1:05:25.760 he was yelling at someone else on the floor, on 1:05:25.760 --> 1:05:28.320 one of his teammates. You know, Well, that's sort of 1:05:28.360 --> 1:05:30.040 the game you're playing here. With the way you go 1:05:30.120 --> 1:05:32.600 about it, you might accidentally get one and then you've 1:05:32.640 --> 1:05:35.240 really hurt your team. So I think they should have 1:05:35.280 --> 1:05:38.520 just got together though, and really with reasoning, said Okay, Yeah, 1:05:38.560 --> 1:05:41.040 he wasn't yelling at me. He's yelling at James Wiseman, 1:05:41.040 --> 1:05:42.160 who he's always yelling at. 1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:42.720 Yeah. 1:05:42.920 --> 1:05:45.760 I mean we see it though as well. They almost never. 1:05:45.840 --> 1:05:48.960 I don't think rescind a technical fail even when sometimes 1:05:49.000 --> 1:05:51.720 you've seen a bad goal, a player will say, hey, 1:05:51.720 --> 1:05:54.080 that's a bad call, the repay, the replay will clearly 1:05:54.080 --> 1:05:57.080 show a bad coal and the referee will still give 1:05:57.120 --> 1:05:58.800 you a technical foul for that, and it's like, well 1:05:58.920 --> 1:06:00.919 that should be rescinded to in that case as well. 1:06:01.160 --> 1:06:03.640 Yeah, I can I give you a technical foul though 1:06:03.760 --> 1:06:06.560 if you just like use vulgar language, even if it's 1:06:06.600 --> 1:06:09.160 not directed at me, can that be considered unspontsedly? 1:06:09.800 --> 1:06:12.000 I mean, you see, Kelly you break getting a technical 1:06:12.000 --> 1:06:13.520 foul for blowing a kiss to his opponent. 1:06:13.880 --> 1:06:16.000 So I would want it, Yeah, I would see Yeah, 1:06:16.080 --> 1:06:18.360 if you really want to. You think that's on sports alike? 1:06:18.440 --> 1:06:20.880 Sure, but it's one thing, you know, Jeff van Gundy 1:06:20.960 --> 1:06:23.000 complains a lot about everything, but that's one thing he's 1:06:23.080 --> 1:06:26.520 right on, is like you you compound the mistake if 1:06:26.520 --> 1:06:28.360 you give a guy a technical foul for when you 1:06:28.440 --> 1:06:30.920 made a bad or wrong call that was clearly wrong. 1:06:31.280 --> 1:06:33.240 I think that's something the NBA should be able to 1:06:33.240 --> 1:06:36.040 at least say, Okay, yeah, we made the mistake. The 1:06:36.040 --> 1:06:38.560 referees made the mistake. It's okay to admit that rather than, 1:06:38.960 --> 1:06:41.000 like I said, in this case last night, the referees 1:06:41.000 --> 1:06:43.400 got it wrong and it cost Draymon half a game. 1:06:44.120 --> 1:06:46.000 So I think you can I think there is middle 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:47.800 ground here where you can fix a problem like that. 1:06:48.400 --> 1:06:51.920 Also, the next are good. Yeah, just throw that in there. 1:06:52.080 --> 1:06:53.680 I think a Draymond Green plays in this game, the 1:06:53.720 --> 1:06:54.720 next still might win this one. 1:06:54.800 --> 1:06:57.520 We probably do. And again that's Steve Kerr didn't say 1:06:57.560 --> 1:06:59.680 we lost because of that. So with no one's no 1:06:59.720 --> 1:07:02.240 one's giving disrespect to the Knicks. They played a great game, 1:07:02.720 --> 1:07:05.800 but you know a guy got sent out for half 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:07.680 the game and the second best player on the team 1:07:08.000 --> 1:07:08.880 over the wrong call. 1:07:09.240 --> 1:07:12.480 Mm hmm yeah, anything to add here, uh, Trey, I 1:07:12.520 --> 1:07:16.440 hate referees, Yeah, Raymond, get him out of here. 1:07:16.480 --> 1:07:19.080 But there are guys who get reputation technicals. And that's 1:07:19.120 --> 1:07:21.680 exactly what this was. Was Draymond. He was yelling like 1:07:21.800 --> 1:07:23.440 task was breaking down on what you need to know. 1:07:23.560 --> 1:07:25.400 Was he yelling at Tom Thibodeau? It did look like 1:07:25.440 --> 1:07:28.200 maybe they were gonna throw down. But yeah, I mean 1:07:28.200 --> 1:07:30.960 we've seen it happen with Boogie before. Even when Draymond 1:07:32.040 --> 1:07:35.400 was suspended for a game after the Steven Adams nutkick, 1:07:35.640 --> 1:07:38.080 the only reason he actually was suspended was because he 1:07:38.120 --> 1:07:41.880 picked up that crazy technical or flagrant with Michael Beasley 1:07:41.880 --> 1:07:43.720 in the first round against the Rockets. Remember, like he 1:07:43.720 --> 1:07:45.680 threw him at the end of the game for literally 1:07:45.720 --> 1:07:48.200 no reason. It just comes back to haunt you eventually. 1:07:48.240 --> 1:07:52.880 But relax, James Butler, I don't like knowen referee Jons. 1:07:52.880 --> 1:07:55.960 I didn't even John Butler. Oh James Butler is Jimmy 1:07:55.960 --> 1:08:00.360 Butler's brother. Yeah, but John Butler get out of here, man, 1:08:00.560 --> 1:08:02.840 Just chill out out. You're right, Skeates, have a little conversation. 1:08:02.960 --> 1:08:04.960 Talk to the Hey, were you yelling at me? No, 1:08:05.040 --> 1:08:07.840 I was yelling at James. Fine, carry on, Yeah. 1:08:07.960 --> 1:08:11.560 Because like Tat said, like everybody on the floor, like immediately, 1:08:11.640 --> 1:08:13.520 like he wasn't yelling at you, like Steph Curry, the 1:08:13.600 --> 1:08:15.160 voice of reason. I mean, I know it's his teammate, 1:08:15.200 --> 1:08:16.800 he's gonna want to keephim out there, but even in Steph, 1:08:16.840 --> 1:08:19.040 it's like I feel like he's a trustworthy guy. I 1:08:19.080 --> 1:08:21.599 think if Steph had seen Draymond actually yell. I got 1:08:21.640 --> 1:08:23.960 John Butler, He's like, you idiot, what are you doing? Like, 1:08:24.000 --> 1:08:25.840 just shut up, you already got one tech but he 1:08:25.880 --> 1:08:27.719 was like, no, he wasn't yelling at you. He's yelling 1:08:27.720 --> 1:08:30.400 at the rookie man. This is what he does. I 1:08:30.400 --> 1:08:32.160 do have a trivia question off of this, the real 1:08:32.280 --> 1:08:36.960 quick one. Green's eleventh career ejection. Okay, guys, for the 1:08:37.000 --> 1:08:39.240 third most in the NBA since he made his debut 1:08:39.280 --> 1:08:42.320 in twenty twelve. Can you name the two guys who 1:08:42.400 --> 1:08:46.400 have more ejections since twenty twelve during that span Boogie 1:08:46.880 --> 1:08:49.599 Boogie Cousins. Yeah, Trey already threw him in there before 1:08:49.600 --> 1:08:51.439 I even asked the question. It was fantastic. He's number 1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:53.240 one with thirteen and this guy's got twelve. 1:08:53.320 --> 1:08:55.600 You can get dwy Dwight Howard No, no, no, no, 1:08:55.760 --> 1:08:57.280 Westbrook Nope. 1:08:57.560 --> 1:08:59.080 I know he's always high on technicals. 1:08:59.240 --> 1:09:04.680 Yeah, technically is an ejection? Pat Beverly Nope, Nope. He's 1:09:04.720 --> 1:09:06.519 a bigger guy. You know, he's like a power forward guy, 1:09:06.520 --> 1:09:10.799 small forward, power forward, and well there's I mean, maybe 1:09:11.240 --> 1:09:12.680 I don't want to give it away too much. Well, 1:09:12.720 --> 1:09:14.559 let's just say there's basically two of them. 1:09:14.880 --> 1:09:18.720 Oh Mars Mars Mars, Marris. 1:09:18.479 --> 1:09:21.280 Yea or Kith Morris. So twelve cousins with thirteen and 1:09:21.320 --> 1:09:23.960 that was Green's eleventh career rejection. I'm not sure if 1:09:24.000 --> 1:09:25.960 that counts the playoffs though, so who knows. All right, 1:09:26.040 --> 1:09:28.240 final piece of news here, just quick. Calves have agreed 1:09:28.240 --> 1:09:30.360 to trade Kevin Porter Junior to the Houston Rockets for 1:09:30.400 --> 1:09:34.320 a heavily protected future second round pick. I mean heavily protected. 1:09:34.320 --> 1:09:38.120 It's like top fifty five protected, meaning that it probably 1:09:38.160 --> 1:09:40.759 will never even convey. So it was sort of for nothing, 1:09:40.800 --> 1:09:42.600 but that's fine. We knew the Caves were moving on 1:09:42.600 --> 1:09:44.400 from him, they were gonna wave them or trade them, 1:09:44.400 --> 1:09:47.000 and they got maybe something, you know, a pick in 1:09:47.040 --> 1:09:49.719 the second round at the end, possibly, But this is good. 1:09:50.920 --> 1:09:53.000 I like the team that Kevin Porter Junior is going 1:09:53.000 --> 1:09:55.840 to here. I know others have pointed this out. The 1:09:55.920 --> 1:09:59.439 Rockets intend to have assistant coach John Lucas work closely 1:09:59.479 --> 1:10:02.160 with this kid, and that's good because Lucas has helped 1:10:02.240 --> 1:10:05.960 several NBA some NFL players to overcome personal issues to 1:10:06.000 --> 1:10:10.240 have successful careers. You know, he did so himself, John Lucas, 1:10:10.240 --> 1:10:11.960 so he you know, speaks from my experience here. So 1:10:12.000 --> 1:10:14.759 I like that that makes sense, and like, why wouldn't 1:10:14.760 --> 1:10:16.120 you do this if you're the Rockets. I think this 1:10:16.280 --> 1:10:20.000 is like fantastic for them potentially if Kevin Porter Junior 1:10:20.040 --> 1:10:22.879 can get everything else, not really even the basketball skills 1:10:23.439 --> 1:10:25.080 in check. I don't know if there's anything to add 1:10:25.120 --> 1:10:26.560 Lelee or not in your head. I feel like you 1:10:26.600 --> 1:10:32.519 feel the same way. Yes, okay, let's get to worst 1:10:32.680 --> 1:10:34.240 of the week, ladies. 1:10:33.880 --> 1:10:43.760 And gentlemen, the worst of the week, all right. I 1:10:43.800 --> 1:10:46.880 asked the people out there, what do you got for me? 1:10:47.160 --> 1:10:49.599 Some great answers this week? For worse of the Week. 1:10:49.600 --> 1:10:52.760 I'll fire through some of the answers that people gave 1:10:52.840 --> 1:10:56.240 to me. Nook No further wrote Kyrie's showing up to 1:10:56.240 --> 1:10:58.559 play against the Kas and getting roasted by a gentleman 1:10:58.600 --> 1:11:03.639 with the last name of Sex wearing his old Calves number. Well, 1:11:03.720 --> 1:11:05.559 Kyrie did have a pretty good game himself. He had 1:11:05.600 --> 1:11:08.080 thirty seven in that game. But I take your point. 1:11:08.160 --> 1:11:11.360 Thank you for your contribution. The life of Kate w 1:11:11.360 --> 1:11:15.840 Writ's task for calling the YouTube fans here stream team 1:11:16.120 --> 1:11:19.120 rather than team stream Oh no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry 1:11:19.120 --> 1:11:21.320 I called him team Stream rather see I always mix 1:11:21.400 --> 1:11:24.600 that up. I always mix that. Okay, yeah it's the 1:11:24.640 --> 1:11:27.639 Stream team, but I always I always can. It's just 1:11:27.880 --> 1:11:32.240 that's just how my brain works. Meg Z rights Lee 1:11:32.320 --> 1:11:38.400 Ellis's chest hair. Yeah we showed this photo. Yeah, come on, yeah, 1:11:38.560 --> 1:11:41.160 you know there it is. Wow. What a zoom in, JD. 1:11:41.320 --> 1:11:44.120 What a zoom in to Lee's chester. That's a photo 1:11:44.200 --> 1:11:46.719 of him. Check our social media pages if you haven't 1:11:46.760 --> 1:11:49.360 seen him attending the US Open in two thousand and one. 1:11:49.640 --> 1:11:51.160 And the linen was that Italy two? 1:11:51.400 --> 1:11:52.679 I think it was two thousand and two. 1:11:52.720 --> 1:11:54.920 Wow, you had trim on that linen shirt too. It's 1:11:54.920 --> 1:11:57.720 not just like a flowing shirt. It looks like, yeah, 1:11:57.720 --> 1:11:59.439 there's a detail on that thing. 1:12:00.040 --> 1:12:02.960 Wow, it was a very comfortable. 1:12:03.000 --> 1:12:03.960 Shit, I will say that. 1:12:05.720 --> 1:12:06.639 Barely relaxed. 1:12:08.400 --> 1:12:11.639 John Ford ninety nine chimed in with a basketball one. Again, 1:12:12.280 --> 1:12:17.040 it's the Timberwolves. That's a fair point. Walker Davidson chimed 1:12:17.080 --> 1:12:20.040 in five game losing streak. The Kangs are back, baby, 1:12:21.760 --> 1:12:24.400 This one was a great one. Romantic to the reporter 1:12:24.520 --> 1:12:29.000 who called Steph Wardell, you know there's a reporter who said, 1:12:29.120 --> 1:12:31.640 excuse me, Wardell, what do you think about that? In 1:12:31.680 --> 1:12:33.800 the end, Steph looks up. If you haven't seen the clip, 1:12:33.800 --> 1:12:35.800 I'm sure we'll get into whoopsies next week. Check out 1:12:35.800 --> 1:12:39.360 our YouTube channel, because you know it's timeless. I don't 1:12:39.360 --> 1:12:41.519 even know when it happened, but YouTube videos you can 1:12:41.640 --> 1:12:45.360 PLoP in a video from whenever who cares. A referee 1:12:45.360 --> 1:12:47.519 called him Mordell. He wasn't angry or anything. He was 1:12:47.640 --> 1:12:53.360 just a little bit shocked. This gentleman here only here 1:12:53.479 --> 1:12:58.160 for move One writes Lee's claim that Facundo Compozo's pass 1:12:58.400 --> 1:13:01.880 the pooper pass, was the best play of the season. Now, 1:13:02.640 --> 1:13:05.080 did I miss it or was this called the pooper pass? 1:13:05.080 --> 1:13:07.760 Because I think he called it. That's a great that's 1:13:07.800 --> 1:13:10.000 a great name. That's why. That's the only reason I 1:13:10.040 --> 1:13:12.120 included it. Because the pooper pass. He dropped it through 1:13:12.160 --> 1:13:14.880 his own legs. It's a very good name for a pass. 1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:18.360 Anybody who drops a pass between his own legs, pooper pass, 1:13:18.360 --> 1:13:22.960 that's great stuff. Mohammed Hassan writes the heat announcer Eric Reed, 1:13:23.240 --> 1:13:27.679 calling Weggie a doink. Yeah. I didn't get to chime 1:13:27.720 --> 1:13:29.559 in with you guys on this one, and this is 1:13:29.640 --> 1:13:32.400 really near and dear to my soul. I'm not so 1:13:32.439 --> 1:13:35.320 mad at Eric Reed like you guys are. He's an 1:13:35.360 --> 1:13:38.760 old head. We've watched basketball for a long time. A 1:13:38.760 --> 1:13:41.080 lot of old heads called some weird names. Eric Reed 1:13:41.160 --> 1:13:44.760 called it a doink. There was a Jim Sparnacle called 1:13:44.760 --> 1:13:46.840 it a Spinarkle called it what do you call it? 1:13:47.000 --> 1:13:51.599 Neck ball? And Ralph Ralph Lawler, Clippers, longtime Clippers man, 1:13:52.160 --> 1:13:54.720 he called it weggie. Now Eric Reed just doesn't know 1:13:54.800 --> 1:13:59.160 that Ralph Lawler's weggie call has been popularized and now 1:13:59.320 --> 1:14:01.440 you don't call it anything but weggie. 1:14:01.520 --> 1:14:02.920 But Eric Read's an old head. 1:14:03.000 --> 1:14:03.200 You know. 1:14:03.360 --> 1:14:06.880 He likes numbers like Lee Ellis. He likes saying Hassan 1:14:06.920 --> 1:14:09.519 Whiteside just came down with his thirteenth rebound that season. 1:14:09.600 --> 1:14:12.880 This gives him forty thousand rebounds. You know he sees 1:14:12.920 --> 1:14:15.080 just an old head. That's okay. I'm okay with it, guys. 1:14:15.080 --> 1:14:17.080 I know you're angry. I'm not okay. 1:14:17.320 --> 1:14:19.760 He should know, first off, is a weggie, and then 1:14:19.960 --> 1:14:22.200 on top of that, the doink makes no sense. As 1:14:22.240 --> 1:14:27.760 Trey pointed out, a doink does not stick anoint. That's 1:14:28.760 --> 1:14:30.000 you're you're spot on with that TK. 1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:30.599 But that's fine. 1:14:30.640 --> 1:14:35.040 That's fine. I believe though the next weggie called by 1:14:35.120 --> 1:14:37.240 Eric Reed will be called a weggie. I have faith, 1:14:38.000 --> 1:14:38.280 I do. 1:14:39.080 --> 1:14:42.160 Okay, So some some really good nominees. The Timberwolves a 1:14:42.160 --> 1:14:44.679 great one. They're they're falling apart, especially with Karl Anthony 1:14:44.720 --> 1:14:47.760 Towns contracting the virus. I hope he gets well, Eric Reed, sure, 1:14:47.880 --> 1:14:51.920 Leelis's hair. Sure, but we got a late nominee here. 1:14:52.040 --> 1:14:55.519 Thursday night, we briefly mentioned it. Shaquille O'Neill and Donovan 1:14:55.520 --> 1:14:57.920 Mitchell had a conversation, if that's what you want to 1:14:57.960 --> 1:15:01.960 call it, after Donovan Mitchell's great game. Let's have a listen. 1:15:02.680 --> 1:15:06.200 Part of this is shaq I said tonight that you 1:15:06.280 --> 1:15:08.280 are one of my favorite players, but you don't have 1:15:08.360 --> 1:15:09.960 what it takes to get to the next level. 1:15:09.960 --> 1:15:10.880 I set it on purpose. 1:15:10.920 --> 1:15:11.840 I want you to hear it. 1:15:12.160 --> 1:15:13.360 What do you have to say about that? 1:15:16.439 --> 1:15:19.200 That's it, that's it, that's it. 1:15:19.960 --> 1:15:22.240 Okay, cool, I want you to hear it. 1:15:22.240 --> 1:15:22.640 I've been here. 1:15:23.120 --> 1:15:24.439 I've been hearing that since my rookie year. 1:15:24.439 --> 1:15:26.000 You know, I'm just gonna get better than would I do? 1:15:26.400 --> 1:15:27.080 Good? 1:15:27.479 --> 1:15:28.840 Well, that's what I wanted you to hearing you say 1:15:29.400 --> 1:15:30.800 another garing brother, keep. 1:15:30.720 --> 1:15:34.920 It up, appreciated. Now everyone was angry. We'll get your 1:15:34.960 --> 1:15:38.559 opinion in a set. Guys. Everybody on Twitter was extremely angry. 1:15:38.600 --> 1:15:41.320 Shaquille O'Neil should not be saying that to Donovan Mitchell. 1:15:41.680 --> 1:15:44.799 But if you listen, Donvan Mitchell is actually listening intently 1:15:45.040 --> 1:15:48.960 because he respects Shaquille O'Neil. He's saying, Okay, thank you, Yes, 1:15:49.000 --> 1:15:51.400 I appreciate that. I mean, he's he's like, I've heard 1:15:51.439 --> 1:15:53.200 that crap before, I don't need to hear it again. 1:15:53.479 --> 1:15:55.640 I think where this comes from, where the problem comes from, 1:15:55.760 --> 1:16:00.160 is the bigger issue of NBA analysts not supporting and 1:16:00.200 --> 1:16:02.759 loving the game and just sort of being angry about 1:16:02.960 --> 1:16:06.639 having to watch basketball and all that. Because if Shaq 1:16:06.720 --> 1:16:11.360 calls somebody out and you trust his opinion and he 1:16:11.880 --> 1:16:15.519 gives a crap about his job every day, then this 1:16:15.600 --> 1:16:18.559 is just his method of trying to inspire to motivate 1:16:18.600 --> 1:16:21.439 a player. That's he's a tough he's I think this 1:16:21.520 --> 1:16:23.960 is his dad method, this is his come on kid, 1:16:24.120 --> 1:16:26.960 this is his tough love method. But when it's combined 1:16:27.479 --> 1:16:30.080 with the fact that you know he's not into the 1:16:30.479 --> 1:16:33.240 job at all times. He just kind of, you know 1:16:33.240 --> 1:16:35.000 it doesn't watch the game at all times, and it's 1:16:35.000 --> 1:16:39.680 sort of just it's a it's a trait characteristic of 1:16:40.280 --> 1:16:43.960 many NBA broadcasts right now, and and just throughout every 1:16:44.040 --> 1:16:46.280 sort of legend, and not every legend, but a lot 1:16:46.280 --> 1:16:48.400 of the legend. It's just a common thing right now 1:16:48.439 --> 1:16:51.559 that some guys are just angry. It's already come up 1:16:51.600 --> 1:16:53.960 on this broadcast, you know, Jeff Van Gundy, like, people 1:16:54.920 --> 1:16:58.639 just aren't all that, you know, supportive and chummy about 1:16:58.640 --> 1:17:03.920 the game. So those two things combined got people really angry. 1:17:03.960 --> 1:17:06.800 But I think if Shaq was, you know, do that 1:17:06.880 --> 1:17:09.400 other part of his job really well, I think this 1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:12.280 would have been taken a little bit differently. That's all 1:17:12.280 --> 1:17:13.320 I got to say about that. 1:17:13.800 --> 1:17:16.719 It was awkward as hell. Yeah, Wait, what did Shack 1:17:16.840 --> 1:17:19.040 want him to say back? Is what I want to know, Like, 1:17:19.080 --> 1:17:20.719 what would have like been a good response. 1:17:20.800 --> 1:17:23.200 Well, he said that's what I wanted to hear. Yeah, 1:17:23.840 --> 1:17:26.360 he said, go work on your game, kid, and he said, 1:17:26.400 --> 1:17:28.280 I on my game. 1:17:28.400 --> 1:17:31.320 It was ridiculous. I mean, he's Donovan Mitchell. Kudos to 1:17:31.400 --> 1:17:34.840 him for being a professional. He should have said cough, like, 1:17:35.040 --> 1:17:36.599 and I know he doesn't. I'm sure you respect Shack 1:17:36.640 --> 1:17:39.240 because he's an al timer, but like, cough, I what 1:17:39.360 --> 1:17:41.920 a weird thing to say. I trashed you on national 1:17:41.960 --> 1:17:44.160 TV at the half, then I'm going to trash you 1:17:44.240 --> 1:17:46.880 basically to your face just by having a great game 1:17:46.960 --> 1:17:50.000 in a win, because I want to inspire you to 1:17:50.040 --> 1:17:50.479 be better. 1:17:51.080 --> 1:17:53.160 Yeah, he just worded it. He worded it ron He 1:17:53.200 --> 1:17:55.160 was saying, hey, you're a good player. He said, you're 1:17:55.200 --> 1:17:57.400 a really good player. I want you to be better. 1:17:57.840 --> 1:18:00.280 He should have said it that way, right, Yeah, Kenny's. 1:18:00.280 --> 1:18:03.160 It over right after Kenny was explained what Shaq was 1:18:03.200 --> 1:18:04.960 trying to get at it. Kenny explained it in a 1:18:05.000 --> 1:18:08.400 way that was constructive and supportive, rather than Shaq, who, 1:18:08.439 --> 1:18:10.800 as Task called it, was curmudgeoning out there. And that's 1:18:10.840 --> 1:18:14.519 exactly what it is. He at the half. Donovan Mitchell 1:18:14.680 --> 1:18:16.920 is having has a twenty one point game. He has 1:18:16.960 --> 1:18:18.720 a twenty one point game. He's in the midst of 1:18:18.760 --> 1:18:21.599 his best season. The Jazz are on a winning streak. 1:18:21.600 --> 1:18:23.840 It's not dissimilar to when Draymond Green in the midst 1:18:23.880 --> 1:18:26.200 of the best Suns basketball we've seen, and said we 1:18:26.280 --> 1:18:28.200 got to get Devin Booker out of there. We got 1:18:28.200 --> 1:18:31.000 to get him away from Phoenix. It's like, no, there 1:18:31.000 --> 1:18:33.360 are ways that you can be constructive. There are ways 1:18:33.360 --> 1:18:35.840 that you can help people besides just hating on him. 1:18:35.840 --> 1:18:38.840 Get that pure positivity training shack is what I'm saying. 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:41.439 But honestly, think about the way Kobe Bryant was doing 1:18:41.520 --> 1:18:46.599 things before he passed away about a year ago. He 1:18:46.680 --> 1:18:48.599 was challenging players. He was saying, here's how you can 1:18:48.640 --> 1:18:50.760 become the best version of yourself. Here's how you can 1:18:50.800 --> 1:18:53.200 become an MVP. He's doing it for people outside of 1:18:53.200 --> 1:18:55.559 the basketball world as well. He's building them up and saying, 1:18:55.720 --> 1:18:58.000 here's where you can approve. Not saying you just had 1:18:58.000 --> 1:18:59.719 twenty one points during in the midst of your best season, 1:18:59.720 --> 1:19:00.960 But are you're going to be a top five player 1:19:01.040 --> 1:19:04.160 that wins championships? That doesn't even make sense, Like us 1:19:04.200 --> 1:19:07.200 listening to half of a podcast and being like, this 1:19:07.280 --> 1:19:09.840 podcast isn't as good as our podcast. Sorry, not listen 1:19:09.880 --> 1:19:13.080 to it anymore. Might as well deleted off iTunes. It's ridiculous. 1:19:13.160 --> 1:19:15.840 It's just weird all around. Leally, what did you think 1:19:15.840 --> 1:19:16.720 of this exchange? 1:19:16.840 --> 1:19:17.120 Well? 1:19:17.960 --> 1:19:19.400 I wonder though, if there's a little bit of a 1:19:19.560 --> 1:19:21.840 drama there between Shack and the Utah Jazz because him 1:19:21.840 --> 1:19:23.840 and Rudy Gobert have kind of been getting into it 1:19:23.840 --> 1:19:27.000 a little bit lately. Shack basically trashed Rudy Gobert for 1:19:27.000 --> 1:19:29.479 getting two hundred million for not having an offensive game 1:19:30.000 --> 1:19:31.720 a few weeks ago. So I wonder if there's just 1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:34.320 a little bit of tension there. And Shaq's just basically saying, 1:19:34.400 --> 1:19:36.719 because he had a history as well playing against the Jazz, 1:19:37.160 --> 1:19:39.280 that he's just kind of like, screw you, Jazz. I 1:19:39.320 --> 1:19:40.880 don't care if you're winning. I'm just going to still 1:19:40.920 --> 1:19:44.400 disrespect you. And again, you know, he looks at maybe 1:19:44.439 --> 1:19:46.200 what happened to the playoff last year, and that's why 1:19:46.240 --> 1:19:47.840 he's sort of in that position where he can say, 1:19:47.840 --> 1:19:49.599 I don't think you guys can step up, because they 1:19:49.640 --> 1:19:52.280 did flame out. They lost in seven games there to 1:19:52.280 --> 1:19:55.000 the Nuggets after leading three ones. So I wonder if 1:19:55.040 --> 1:19:58.479 it's just that, you know, just Shack just like I 1:19:58.520 --> 1:20:01.679 don't respect the Jazz and and Rudy Gobert, I don't 1:20:01.720 --> 1:20:03.519 respect him, and so I'm not giving anyone on the 1:20:03.560 --> 1:20:04.120 Jazz credit. 1:20:04.800 --> 1:20:08.000 That Isn't that still a problem like that it's like 1:20:08.360 --> 1:20:10.519 a major analyst, the guy that is supposed to be 1:20:10.600 --> 1:20:12.760 like promote the game and building up is after that 1:20:12.880 --> 1:20:15.000 like didn't know really, you know, we gave him a 1:20:15.040 --> 1:20:17.720 pass with like not really knowing who Christian Wood was, 1:20:17.880 --> 1:20:20.600 and then like you said, like doubling down possibly on 1:20:20.640 --> 1:20:23.680 his heat for the Jazz, Like that's not a good look, right, No, 1:20:23.840 --> 1:20:26.280 I get it. It's Shack. We always go, man, it's Shack. 1:20:26.320 --> 1:20:28.720 He can do whatever he wants. Ha ha. But at 1:20:28.720 --> 1:20:30.439 a certain point it becomes a little tiresome. 1:20:30.680 --> 1:20:32.640 Yeah, I mean the after the game stuff. After the 1:20:32.720 --> 1:20:34.559 Jazz have an impressive win, when they're having a hot 1:20:34.600 --> 1:20:36.240 streak and a young star of the league, you don't 1:20:36.280 --> 1:20:38.720 want to basically just say you're not that good though, 1:20:38.960 --> 1:20:41.000 and I don't think you guys can win. It took 1:20:41.040 --> 1:20:43.000 Shack a long time to win in this league. Let's 1:20:43.000 --> 1:20:45.200 not forget that as well. Remember he came in as 1:20:45.200 --> 1:20:47.800 the number one pick, he was the star, he was 1:20:47.880 --> 1:20:49.439 hyped up, and it took him until he got to 1:20:49.520 --> 1:20:51.719 Los Angeles in his what eighth season or ninth season 1:20:51.760 --> 1:20:54.320 before he won, and he lost a few times in 1:20:54.360 --> 1:20:56.160 the playoffs as well. I remember the Jazz beat them 1:20:56.160 --> 1:20:59.880 in ninety nine, ninety eight, ninety eight, ninety nine, and 1:21:00.160 --> 1:21:02.519 so Shaq had some questions to answer in his career 1:21:02.520 --> 1:21:04.679 early on. It didn't go as smoothly as he would 1:21:04.720 --> 1:21:05.080 have liked. 1:21:05.080 --> 1:21:09.080 So did Doug Collins inspire him on a broadcast something 1:21:09.600 --> 1:21:13.120 Shack should realize as well that like it takes Michael Jordan, 1:21:13.200 --> 1:21:15.559 I mean, he went through some struggles as well before 1:21:15.560 --> 1:21:15.920 he won. 1:21:16.000 --> 1:21:18.599 So most players, you know, do have to figure it out. 1:21:18.640 --> 1:21:20.400 It takes a long time. And the Jazz and one 1:21:20.400 --> 1:21:22.240 of those teams, they're in the mix. At their best, 1:21:22.280 --> 1:21:24.519 they're a good team, but they do have some issues 1:21:24.520 --> 1:21:26.479 as well, and they have flamed out in the playoffs 1:21:26.520 --> 1:21:27.080 a couple of times. 1:21:27.080 --> 1:21:28.799 But it's not a good look. 1:21:28.600 --> 1:21:31.880 When Shaq just basically on on C and T just 1:21:31.880 --> 1:21:34.640 just kind of dismisses and ships on the team that 1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:35.760 just had an impressive win. 1:21:36.640 --> 1:21:39.240 Yeah, they gotta love basketball a little bit more. I 1:21:39.280 --> 1:21:42.120 think that's what it comes down to to enjoy watching it. 1:21:42.240 --> 1:21:44.439 And I guess I think it's a double edged sword 1:21:44.640 --> 1:21:47.599 because you've got superstars, Hall of famers, legends that are 1:21:47.600 --> 1:21:50.120 on that desk. So Donovan Mitchell was listening intently. He 1:21:50.200 --> 1:21:53.720 wanted to listen to what Shaq said. But being a superstar, 1:21:53.880 --> 1:21:58.040 quite often you didn't have to. You know, it's not 1:21:58.040 --> 1:22:00.439 that you didn't have to work, but you you just 1:22:00.520 --> 1:22:02.360 don't have to grind the same way you're not going 1:22:02.439 --> 1:22:05.040 to grind at your job. You're not gonna watch, you know, 1:22:05.760 --> 1:22:08.559 hours of footage. You're not gonna watch the games. And 1:22:08.680 --> 1:22:10.960 that's just what's the double edged sword. They get the 1:22:11.000 --> 1:22:13.479 great part of it. Like Chris Webber talking to Anthony 1:22:13.520 --> 1:22:15.240 Davis at the end of the Lakers game, asked him 1:22:15.280 --> 1:22:17.760 a question. Anthony Davis talked for five minutes straight because 1:22:17.760 --> 1:22:20.240 it was Chris Weber on the other end, that was 1:22:20.600 --> 1:22:23.760 obviously a huge positive shack if he just showed a 1:22:23.800 --> 1:22:27.040 little bit of Hey man, you know I watched you tonight. 1:22:27.080 --> 1:22:28.920 You were actually on a broadcast. I didn't have to 1:22:29.320 --> 1:22:32.080 do any research. You're right here. You were good. That's 1:22:32.080 --> 1:22:32.639 all I have to say. 1:22:32.760 --> 1:22:34.920 There was no question he didn't ask him a question. 1:22:35.160 --> 1:22:38.120 He literally said, I was talking crap about you at halftime, 1:22:39.080 --> 1:22:41.040 and I'm gonna sort of tilt talk crap to you 1:22:41.080 --> 1:22:42.880 to you to your face because I'm you know, I'm 1:22:42.880 --> 1:22:45.240 not hiding from it by any means, and what do 1:22:45.280 --> 1:22:47.240 you think about that? Like that was the question, like 1:22:47.320 --> 1:22:49.720 what do you think about me crapping on you? Like 1:22:49.720 --> 1:22:52.000 what are you supposed to say on live television after 1:22:52.040 --> 1:22:54.519 again a good performance? It's like to a Hall of famer, 1:22:54.680 --> 1:22:58.000 Like I think he wanted to say something else and 1:22:58.120 --> 1:23:02.240 and maybe caught himself and probably wisely so. But it's 1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:04.880 just strange, man, It's just like what you're I'm with 1:23:05.000 --> 1:23:07.720 you task like a little more joy, a little more positive, 1:23:08.640 --> 1:23:11.519 you know, applauding this effort from him and the team, 1:23:11.600 --> 1:23:14.519 and an entertaining game would go a long way for sure. 1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:18.200 Then this, like the the it was a game's not 1:23:18.240 --> 1:23:20.760 the same. I don't like watching whatever it is. 1:23:21.360 --> 1:23:23.920 And I guess part of the attitude is like Lee 1:23:24.040 --> 1:23:28.160 was saying, everybody in the NBA can't win, and you know, 1:23:28.280 --> 1:23:30.280 Charles's on that desk. He didn't win. It takes a 1:23:30.320 --> 1:23:33.320 long time to win. But Shack has this, you know, 1:23:33.360 --> 1:23:35.800 he's got this personality that he's still competing with you. 1:23:35.840 --> 1:23:37.960 I'm still better than you. He's always going to compete 1:23:38.000 --> 1:23:40.040 with you. I'm always going to kick your ass, even 1:23:40.080 --> 1:23:42.439 though you know this is Donovan Mitchell trying to win 1:23:42.479 --> 1:23:44.559 in twenty twenty one. Here he's not playing against you, 1:23:45.479 --> 1:23:47.880 so I think that's partly it too. Right, It's like 1:23:48.439 --> 1:23:51.200 the guy's trying to be that champion and he's freaking 1:23:51.520 --> 1:23:54.799 he's freaking playing so good. In year four, he's expanded 1:23:54.800 --> 1:23:56.559 his game. Shooting nine three is a game to try 1:23:56.600 --> 1:23:59.880 and get better. He's not a finished product. He's fun. 1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:01.439 I like watching him. 1:24:01.640 --> 1:24:03.760 Weird, weird moment, but I think that's a good worst 1:24:03.800 --> 1:24:07.839 of the week right there. Okay, let's get to tweet 1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:08.280 of the. 1:24:08.320 --> 1:24:17.840 Night, Tweet out the night. Wow, we are going away 1:24:17.880 --> 1:24:22.640 from basketball for a moment, Yes, and this isn't getting political, 1:24:22.800 --> 1:24:28.840 although the topic is involving politics. Don't leave yet because 1:24:28.920 --> 1:24:32.439 this tweet from Kristen Anderson Lopez. Oh, we got me 1:24:32.640 --> 1:24:38.160 reeling when Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris and Jill Biden were 1:24:38.200 --> 1:24:43.679 photographed together wearing their long purple coats or Kamala Harris 1:24:43.760 --> 1:24:45.559 wearing a long purple coat, Jill Biden wearing a long 1:24:45.600 --> 1:24:48.519 blue coat and somebody's plit screen that Kristin Anderson did 1:24:48.880 --> 1:24:52.679 with Frozens Anna and Elsa also wearing a long purple 1:24:52.680 --> 1:24:56.920 coat and a long blue coat and then photoshopping Frozen 1:24:56.960 --> 1:25:00.120 behind them. I mean, it's it's uncanny. 1:25:00.080 --> 1:25:02.840 Pretty good, similar colors there. It's a good luck though 1:25:02.880 --> 1:25:03.960 it worked for them in the movie. 1:25:04.600 --> 1:25:08.120 It was also a Lisa Simpson Kamala Harris comparison. That 1:25:08.160 --> 1:25:10.160 was my dad there. She was dressed exactly the same 1:25:10.160 --> 1:25:14.920 when Lisa was Lisa became in an advanced episode or 1:25:14.960 --> 1:25:16.280 Ford episode where she was the. 1:25:16.200 --> 1:25:18.560 President of the Yeah. 1:25:18.640 --> 1:25:21.240 Yeah, and she was dressed exactly like Kamala was on 1:25:21.280 --> 1:25:22.360 the inauguration day. 1:25:22.240 --> 1:25:24.120 The right stuff. 1:25:24.600 --> 1:25:27.480 The tweet just made you chuckle, did it? 1:25:27.680 --> 1:25:32.479 Yeah? Yeah. I haven't seen Lee's tweet yet, No, I know, 1:25:32.479 --> 1:25:34.320 but that's going to make me chuckle when I see it. 1:25:34.520 --> 1:25:37.439 Kamma not wearing purple gloves with her purple jacket, although 1:25:37.520 --> 1:25:39.880 Jill is wearing Joe Biden is wearing blue gloves with 1:25:39.880 --> 1:25:42.840 her blue jacket, so I don't know if that's a 1:25:42.840 --> 1:25:43.760 fashion full paw. 1:25:44.160 --> 1:25:47.640 But in Frozen they wear gloves too, right, because that's 1:25:47.640 --> 1:25:48.840 where their power is coming from. 1:25:49.640 --> 1:25:52.120 Yeah. Also, the other one. 1:25:51.960 --> 1:25:57.200 Doesn't no, right, Wow, that sucks. It's got no powers. 1:25:57.960 --> 1:26:00.360 Yeah, but she's you can argue she's the te hero 1:26:00.479 --> 1:26:03.320 of the shelf of It at least of the first movie. 1:26:03.520 --> 1:26:05.519 I didn't know she had zero powers though I thought 1:26:05.520 --> 1:26:06.439 it was ran in the family. 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:07.519 Her power is love. 1:26:08.400 --> 1:26:09.120 That's a good power. 1:26:09.680 --> 1:26:12.360 Great power she is there. 1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:16.120 Is Yeah, it's because the pearls there really take the 1:26:16.120 --> 1:26:18.360 next level excellent. Good. 1:26:18.880 --> 1:26:22.320 I don't think those are pearls on Kablo. Yeah, I 1:26:22.320 --> 1:26:24.800 hear what you're saying. Hey, come on, Skeets, you know 1:26:24.840 --> 1:26:28.400 that Anna doesn't have powers. I saw you saw Frozen Junior. 1:26:28.439 --> 1:26:31.799 You saw a live I played with Frozen Jr. 1:26:32.200 --> 1:26:35.040 Yeah that was Why did I go watch that? Who 1:26:35.120 --> 1:26:36.680 was in that? That must have been JD one of 1:26:36.680 --> 1:26:38.559 your sons. Were they? And Frozens? That's why I was there? 1:26:40.320 --> 1:26:42.160 They were both in Yeah, they were. 1:26:42.040 --> 1:26:46.479 Both yes, yeah, yeah, Lincoln was He was their reindeer, right. 1:26:48.439 --> 1:26:52.720 Spin span he was right yeah, and uh Jackson, I 1:26:52.760 --> 1:26:54.960 can't remember the character's name. Buddy was like the Duke 1:26:55.000 --> 1:26:58.439 of something or other, the guy who does yeah yeah. 1:26:58.280 --> 1:27:01.360 Yeah, yeah, good times. 1:27:01.040 --> 1:27:03.280 Good times, love to love to get back to the 1:27:03.320 --> 1:27:04.360 live theater at some. 1:27:04.400 --> 1:27:08.680 Point, you know, oh yeah, yeah. 1:27:08.360 --> 1:27:10.280 Well Lincoln is in a school of the arts and 1:27:10.320 --> 1:27:15.439 that's that's his thing. And there's been nothing doing doing 1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:18.920 drama classes over zoom is not is not great. 1:27:19.160 --> 1:27:22.120 No, No, imagine are you reading lines with them every 1:27:22.120 --> 1:27:22.759 once in a while. 1:27:23.200 --> 1:27:24.080 No, he doesn't. 1:27:24.160 --> 1:27:25.920 There's no shows, there's nothing nothing. 1:27:26.000 --> 1:27:27.719 Yeah, but he's got to keep working on his craft. 1:27:27.800 --> 1:27:27.960 Man. 1:27:28.000 --> 1:27:30.200 I hate to be a shock about this, Okay. 1:27:29.920 --> 1:27:39.160 But o case, take it easy, kid, big winter bum out? 1:27:39.720 --> 1:27:42.439 That's that was a lie. Well yeah, blowout big No, 1:27:42.520 --> 1:27:44.880 he says, big summer blow up, big summer blow up. 1:27:44.960 --> 1:27:45.160 Yeah. 1:27:45.320 --> 1:27:48.080 I tried to adapt it for Lincoln being upset. Bum 1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:51.519 out right, Yeah, that's not a term. Bum out isn't 1:27:51.520 --> 1:27:52.280 a term. 1:27:53.840 --> 1:27:57.200 Pick of results from last night Lakers Bucks game, Lakers 1:27:57.200 --> 1:27:59.559 favored by one and a half. Trey and I had 1:27:59.600 --> 1:28:01.640 the Laker to get it done and they did. So 1:28:01.720 --> 1:28:04.519 that's a good win for us because it's tight for 1:28:04.640 --> 1:28:07.200 the three of you, especially Trey goes to nine and eleven. 1:28:07.880 --> 1:28:10.000 I'm eleven and nine, and then we got tacin Lee 1:28:10.040 --> 1:28:11.840 who had the Bucks last night with the yel you 1:28:11.840 --> 1:28:13.479 guys are eight and twelve, so you guys are tied 1:28:13.479 --> 1:28:15.439 for last. Tray's right there, and I'm a couple of 1:28:15.479 --> 1:28:17.320 games up. What's tonight's game there? 1:28:17.400 --> 1:28:20.280 Tass Well, that's a rematch from a couple of nights ago, 1:28:20.640 --> 1:28:23.879 we had that double ot game between the Calves and Nets. 1:28:24.400 --> 1:28:29.200 They're playing again, but the spread is shocking. Two teams 1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:32.960 go to double overtime. You expect the spread to be 1:28:33.000 --> 1:28:35.120 close here, but the Calves are getting nine and a 1:28:35.200 --> 1:28:37.519 half points at home. They can lose by nine if 1:28:37.560 --> 1:28:40.479 you pick them. Wow, with the Nets visiting at home, 1:28:41.640 --> 1:28:44.519 this is shocking. So start us off here, Skates, what 1:28:44.520 --> 1:28:45.519 do you think? Wow? 1:28:45.920 --> 1:28:48.880 That is a shocking line. And whenever I see a 1:28:48.960 --> 1:28:51.680 line like that, I go, what does Vegas know that? 1:28:51.760 --> 1:28:54.439 We don't know? What are they got going on over there? 1:28:54.920 --> 1:28:57.160 Which is why I'll take the Nets. You know, that's strange, 1:28:57.280 --> 1:28:59.680 very very strange, big line. You're like, exactly right, you 1:28:59.680 --> 1:29:02.000 just want to double overtime. Colin Sexon was on fire. 1:29:02.400 --> 1:29:04.599 You know, why would you pick against them right now? 1:29:04.600 --> 1:29:06.320 They could win the game for crinel out. Nope, give 1:29:06.320 --> 1:29:08.120 me the Nets by ten plus lee? 1:29:08.160 --> 1:29:09.559 What do you think? Yeah? 1:29:10.200 --> 1:29:15.439 Something weird about that? I don't know. I mean, like, 1:29:15.520 --> 1:29:16.360 will the Nets go? 1:29:16.560 --> 1:29:16.800 Wow? 1:29:16.880 --> 1:29:19.000 Okay, let's be locked in tonight, guys and go and 1:29:19.000 --> 1:29:23.960 get it. Probably, But I all right, give me the Caves. 1:29:24.000 --> 1:29:26.280 I think they've got I think they can keep it 1:29:26.320 --> 1:29:28.840 close enough tonight anyway, I think that wasn't just a 1:29:28.880 --> 1:29:31.800 mirage again. The Calves the nets defense gives me a 1:29:31.800 --> 1:29:33.800 little bit of hope that the sex man could go 1:29:33.840 --> 1:29:34.920 for another forty plus. 1:29:34.920 --> 1:29:38.479 So I'll say the cats, Trey, are you buying this 1:29:38.600 --> 1:29:39.439 sex man talk? 1:29:42.800 --> 1:29:47.640 Yes, I have subscribed to sex Land. I've got the 1:29:47.680 --> 1:29:51.880 premium membership. In fact, I don't know what's tough though. 1:29:51.960 --> 1:29:55.360 Kevin Durant's I guess questionable for tonight's which makes me 1:29:55.400 --> 1:29:58.880 a little hesitant. Maybe then the Calves sleep on the Nets. 1:29:58.880 --> 1:30:00.960 I guess they still got James and then Kyrie Irving. 1:30:01.080 --> 1:30:03.360 That's depth for you right there. Give me the nets. 1:30:03.400 --> 1:30:05.160 I think I'm gonna regret it, but give me the nets. 1:30:05.160 --> 1:30:06.559 Whoa, what are you going with? 1:30:06.840 --> 1:30:10.760 Yeah? I'm going with the nets too. Whoa, I've got 1:30:10.840 --> 1:30:13.719 Lee tied with him at the bottom here, So let's 1:30:13.760 --> 1:30:15.080 break it tide. Don't like ties? 1:30:15.560 --> 1:30:15.920 All right? 1:30:16.320 --> 1:30:20.040 On Monday's podcast, Yeah, somebody will be in dead last, 1:30:20.920 --> 1:30:25.280 all by themselves by their loadsome All right, let's end 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:27.280 this strop podcast along one here. But we're having a 1:30:27.320 --> 1:30:29.240 lot of fun, a lot of fun conversations with a 1:30:29.240 --> 1:30:32.320 little rapid fire questions. Trey, my man, you got the 1:30:32.360 --> 1:30:34.920 cubes there, that's right, skeet see. 1:30:35.840 --> 1:30:39.320 ESPN's Tim McMahon snapped a picture of Willie Cowley Stein 1:30:39.479 --> 1:30:43.200 rocking a MAVs Defensive Player of the Game Championship belt 1:30:43.439 --> 1:30:47.160 after a game earlier this week. Looks awesome. What's another 1:30:47.200 --> 1:30:50.520 trophy that should be handed out for single game awards? 1:30:50.680 --> 1:30:51.120 Skeets. 1:30:51.439 --> 1:30:53.559 I won't overthink this, Trey. You came up with it. 1:30:53.600 --> 1:30:56.920 When you get twenty plus rebounds, you got a lot 1:30:56.920 --> 1:31:00.280 of roast beef. So when you do that, I think 1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:02.680 you should have to wear an Arby's hat. What's an 1:31:02.800 --> 1:31:07.200 Rby's hat. It's the Farrell hat. That's what you wear 1:31:07.400 --> 1:31:10.120 when you get twenty plus rebounds in a game, the 1:31:10.240 --> 1:31:14.240 Arby's slash Farrell hat, and you wear it proudly a 1:31:14.240 --> 1:31:16.599 little Probably you could stick some roast beef up under that, 1:31:17.080 --> 1:31:19.360 have a little snack later in the day. That's why 1:31:20.160 --> 1:31:21.000 I love it. 1:31:21.200 --> 1:31:22.240 I love it, JD. 1:31:22.320 --> 1:31:26.439 What you got so I was thinking that we could 1:31:26.479 --> 1:31:29.200 get you know, the sashes they have and the boy 1:31:29.240 --> 1:31:31.960 Scouts and the girl Scouts where there's where you can 1:31:32.000 --> 1:31:34.320 put badges on it, and we just give badges for 1:31:34.640 --> 1:31:37.960 literally everything. You know, if you get the defensive Player 1:31:38.040 --> 1:31:40.800 of the of the week or whatever or of the night. 1:31:41.600 --> 1:31:45.200 But you know, add things like composting in first aid 1:31:45.360 --> 1:31:48.000 and that kind of thing. You know, cookie entrepreneur. Maybe 1:31:48.040 --> 1:31:51.240 if somebody's opening a bakery. These are real badges, by 1:31:51.280 --> 1:31:54.960 the way, model design and stamp collecting. That'd be great 1:31:55.000 --> 1:31:58.000 if you just give those out after a game and 1:31:58.479 --> 1:32:00.400 then they they could wear them around and you know 1:32:00.439 --> 1:32:02.559 you can compare. Oh Le Brown's got a lot of them. 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:05.840 But you know, Anthony Davis, he's got to get it 1:32:05.920 --> 1:32:07.760 up there, man, he's got to get some badges on 1:32:07.840 --> 1:32:08.280 that thing. 1:32:08.320 --> 1:32:08.559 You know. 1:32:08.880 --> 1:32:12.479 That's not that dissimilar to the like All Star jackets 1:32:12.520 --> 1:32:15.040 they used to do, right that had like a certain 1:32:15.120 --> 1:32:17.559 number of like All Star appearances and like Defensive Player 1:32:17.600 --> 1:32:18.840 of the Earth wins and stuff like that. But you're 1:32:18.840 --> 1:32:21.120 taking it next level with some of the skills that 1:32:21.160 --> 1:32:24.240 they made have acquired. Yeah, Sash, I like the sash 1:32:24.280 --> 1:32:25.400 a lot sash. 1:32:25.560 --> 1:32:27.360 Yeah, that's awesome. At the end of the year, you 1:32:27.360 --> 1:32:29.720 can just look back and see everything you've accomplished. Hang 1:32:29.760 --> 1:32:31.479 them all on the wall. That's a great one. 1:32:31.560 --> 1:32:31.800 J D. 1:32:32.040 --> 1:32:34.200 Lee, what you are so you guys. 1:32:34.560 --> 1:32:36.960 You know, we often get emails from Australia when people say, 1:32:37.000 --> 1:32:39.320 you know, why don't you adopt the Australian rules football 1:32:39.360 --> 1:32:42.320 way of doing the MVP. We call it the Brownlow 1:32:42.360 --> 1:32:45.040 Metal by giving votes after every game and then you 1:32:45.080 --> 1:32:46.840 accumulate them at the end of the season, count them 1:32:46.920 --> 1:32:49.160 up and that decides who the MVP is. 1:32:49.400 --> 1:32:50.200 Why don't we do that? 1:32:50.280 --> 1:32:53.160 Finally in the NBA, right, So after each game, the 1:32:53.160 --> 1:32:55.920 referees get together and they give out two votes. They 1:32:55.920 --> 1:32:57.840 give five points to the best player on the court, 1:32:57.880 --> 1:32:59.760 and then one point to the second best player, and 1:32:59.800 --> 1:33:01.280 then at the end of the season we just count 1:33:01.280 --> 1:33:03.720 them up and then we get the MVP based on 1:33:04.080 --> 1:33:06.080 the amount of points they accumulate during the season. And 1:33:06.160 --> 1:33:08.160 in fact, we can have it running so we can 1:33:08.200 --> 1:33:10.400 see throughout the season who is actually winning, so then 1:33:10.439 --> 1:33:12.160 we don't have to debate the award. We can see 1:33:12.160 --> 1:33:14.479 the leaderboard who's winning, and at the end of the 1:33:14.479 --> 1:33:16.559 season it's like, Okay, that guy won it, because. 1:33:16.360 --> 1:33:19.160 After it I can't trust John Butler to make that 1:33:19.320 --> 1:33:21.400 call technical. 1:33:21.680 --> 1:33:23.680 Hey are you saying are you saying the referees of 1:33:23.760 --> 1:33:26.719 more biason? People in the media, you come into this season. 1:33:26.800 --> 1:33:29.000 You say Yannis can't win no matter why. 1:33:29.000 --> 1:33:31.439 True, that's true, and I'm right, I'm right about it. 1:33:31.560 --> 1:33:34.160 You know, I can't trust John Butler. I'm sorry if 1:33:34.200 --> 1:33:34.640 that is it's me. 1:33:34.840 --> 1:33:35.200 I see. 1:33:35.680 --> 1:33:36.120 That's the thing. 1:33:36.160 --> 1:33:39.040 There's no one system that works perfectly for everyone. So 1:33:39.240 --> 1:33:40.439 do it in the heat of the moment. 1:33:41.960 --> 1:33:42.679 Good stuff. 1:33:43.040 --> 1:33:44.360 Second, wrap it by our question. 1:33:44.439 --> 1:33:47.040 Joelle Embiid and Marcus Smart got into a war of 1:33:47.080 --> 1:33:50.280 words about who's the bigger flopper after Embiid shot twenty 1:33:50.320 --> 1:33:52.719 one free throws and went over the Celtics. But here's 1:33:52.760 --> 1:33:56.880 the twist. They both flop all the time. Guys, when's 1:33:56.920 --> 1:33:59.880 the time you faked something for dramatic effect? 1:34:00.160 --> 1:34:03.320 Skates, I apologize if I've told this story before. I 1:34:03.360 --> 1:34:07.560 can't remember if I have on the podcast. But one Christmas. 1:34:08.160 --> 1:34:10.360 Every Christmas we would usually not this year, but we 1:34:10.400 --> 1:34:12.439 would fly home to Canada, of course, be with family. 1:34:12.840 --> 1:34:15.559 And I've been with Nora for a long time, nearly 1:34:15.640 --> 1:34:17.639 twenty years in fact, so this is a while back. 1:34:17.680 --> 1:34:20.719 But I was probably in year three or four, let's say, 1:34:20.760 --> 1:34:24.040 maybe year five of going to her family Christmas, and 1:34:24.080 --> 1:34:26.840 one of their traditions, she has a British aunt that 1:34:26.880 --> 1:34:28.439 married into the family a long long time ago, and 1:34:28.439 --> 1:34:32.320 we would do the British Christmas pudding. Now, Lee, I 1:34:32.360 --> 1:34:33.840 don't know if you've ever done this, but what they 1:34:33.840 --> 1:34:37.479 would do their whole thing is she aunt Jenny would 1:34:37.479 --> 1:34:39.800 put a bunch of dimes in it, and you know, 1:34:39.880 --> 1:34:42.000 then it's cut up, it's put on fire. It's a 1:34:42.000 --> 1:34:44.479 big show, and then it's passed around and you pass 1:34:44.520 --> 1:34:46.840 it around this giant table and it's got to keep 1:34:46.880 --> 1:34:49.320 going until it, you know, obviously gets to the closest 1:34:49.320 --> 1:34:52.040 person back to where the pudding was, and you get 1:34:52.040 --> 1:34:53.679 your piece, and you see if you get a dime, 1:34:53.720 --> 1:34:55.320 if you get a dime, hey, it's good luck. 1:34:55.439 --> 1:34:55.599 Right. 1:34:56.040 --> 1:34:57.960 Well, I knew this is a thing they did because 1:34:57.960 --> 1:34:59.680 again I'd been there for a couple of years. So 1:34:59.720 --> 1:35:01.680 I just decided, I don't know why. I just thought 1:35:01.680 --> 1:35:04.400 it would be hilarious that I would take a fifty 1:35:04.439 --> 1:35:08.040 dollars bill that I had and I wrapped it up 1:35:08.040 --> 1:35:10.400 in tinfoil and advance had it in my pocket. You know, 1:35:10.479 --> 1:35:12.680 it gets everything gets passed around. There's too much going on. 1:35:12.760 --> 1:35:15.640 It's a huge Armenian family, right, everybody's like yelling and 1:35:15.680 --> 1:35:17.760 talking and stuff, having a laugh, and so I sort 1:35:17.760 --> 1:35:19.599 of just slipped it on my on my plate, and 1:35:19.640 --> 1:35:21.960 everybody always does the thing like, oh found a dime, 1:35:22.080 --> 1:35:24.160 Oh found a dime. Everybody trying and keep track and 1:35:24.200 --> 1:35:26.479 all that, and so I did, oh, what's this? And 1:35:26.520 --> 1:35:28.760 then I, you know, had sort of everybody's attention and 1:35:28.800 --> 1:35:32.880 open it up and was like, wow, fifty dollars, I'd 1:35:32.880 --> 1:35:36.680 be a huge deal. And you should have seen the 1:35:36.760 --> 1:35:41.040 reactions from everyone at the table, like he will jaw 1:35:41.280 --> 1:35:43.360 like literally hit the floor. They couldn't believe it because 1:35:43.360 --> 1:35:45.760 they thought it was real. Uh, and it was a 1:35:45.800 --> 1:35:49.920 grand old laugh and it was nailed it perfectly. I 1:35:49.960 --> 1:35:52.120 played it off perfectly, like I was excited, like, wow, 1:35:52.200 --> 1:35:56.000 Auntie Jenny's putt in fifties now man dimes and fifties, 1:35:56.040 --> 1:35:58.040 so that's nice. I can't remember if I shared that 1:35:58.080 --> 1:35:59.000 story on this podcast. 1:35:59.040 --> 1:36:00.799 I feel like an outside offline. 1:36:00.840 --> 1:36:04.000 No, okay, So that was you know, look, the family 1:36:04.040 --> 1:36:07.080 already loved old Skeetzy, but that took me. Still talk 1:36:07.160 --> 1:36:07.479 about it. 1:36:07.560 --> 1:36:09.440 Leal still reminius. 1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:13.719 About that time, fifteen years deep in the podcasting game, 1:36:13.840 --> 1:36:16.280 reaching deep in the bag, like the Fries were at 1:36:16.280 --> 1:36:19.360 the bottom pulling on a banger oh skates with a 1:36:19.439 --> 1:36:20.559 fifty dollars dime. 1:36:21.280 --> 1:36:23.800 Love it. Unfortunately, we'd have to use that fifty and 1:36:23.840 --> 1:36:24.920 give half a bit the task. 1:36:25.800 --> 1:36:32.439 That's quick thee I had a little bit of trouble 1:36:32.439 --> 1:36:35.680 coming up with something, so I'm just gonna say I 1:36:36.720 --> 1:36:41.240 faked sweating for a DraftKings ad a couple of months ago, 1:36:41.360 --> 1:36:44.080 and I have Jackson sprang me down with a with 1:36:44.840 --> 1:36:47.120 a little spray bottle and I got water all over 1:36:47.200 --> 1:36:49.880 my system, and but it was totally worth it. It 1:36:49.920 --> 1:36:53.559 was totally worth it the gag. It went off without 1:36:53.600 --> 1:36:55.479 a hitch. So that's my answer. 1:36:56.800 --> 1:36:58.920 I was a banger of an ad Reid too Bley. 1:37:00.160 --> 1:37:02.320 Pretty much every day when I go outside and play 1:37:02.360 --> 1:37:04.720 with my two boys, we play hide and Seek or 1:37:04.800 --> 1:37:07.120 blasters or something like that. And whenever we play Lego 1:37:07.160 --> 1:37:10.840 Blasters or Star Wars blasters, I have to fake going 1:37:10.920 --> 1:37:13.400 down every time. Like my four year old won't let 1:37:13.400 --> 1:37:15.479 me just be like, I can't just let them bounce 1:37:15.520 --> 1:37:17.479 off me. I have to go down. I have to 1:37:17.520 --> 1:37:19.720 be down and out for the count. And it's like, 1:37:20.240 --> 1:37:22.880 after like the tenth time, I'm like I'm not I'm done, man, 1:37:22.880 --> 1:37:24.760 I'm done. I'm not going down again. They're going to 1:37:24.880 --> 1:37:26.479 go back down and then to get back up, and 1:37:26.479 --> 1:37:28.479 then he just blasts me again. And he never goes 1:37:28.520 --> 1:37:30.280 down when I blast him either. He's always got a 1:37:30.320 --> 1:37:30.720 shield up. 1:37:30.760 --> 1:37:31.880 He always protects himself. 1:37:32.560 --> 1:37:34.840 If I use the same tactics, it never works. I'm like, 1:37:34.960 --> 1:37:36.920 I've I've got a should Actually, you don't have a 1:37:36.960 --> 1:37:39.040 shield for this blast. I'm like, woy, how do you 1:37:39.080 --> 1:37:41.040 have a shield all the time? How come you're always 1:37:41.040 --> 1:37:43.160 blocking my blast? But I've always got to go down 1:37:43.240 --> 1:37:44.839 for yours. 1:37:44.840 --> 1:37:49.080 I'm like, they got that advance to technology game up. 1:37:49.640 --> 1:37:52.040 Sounds like you suck it blasters. I do. 1:37:52.200 --> 1:37:55.360 I do, apparently because I can never ever defeat those guys. 1:37:55.400 --> 1:37:57.360 They always beat me, especially the four year old. 1:37:57.400 --> 1:37:58.880 He's very sly, he's very funny. 1:37:58.880 --> 1:38:02.800 He knows how to get me last rapid fire question. 1:38:02.920 --> 1:38:05.240 With the win over Kansas City this week, this weekend, 1:38:05.280 --> 1:38:07.559 Little Bills would go to the Super Bowl for the 1:38:07.600 --> 1:38:12.639 first time since nineteen ninety three. Shout out to Darryl Tally, 1:38:13.080 --> 1:38:15.439 what's something you haven't done since the nineties, But you 1:38:15.560 --> 1:38:17.240 might get back into skips. 1:38:17.640 --> 1:38:21.559 I am just continuing to talk this into existence. NBA 1:38:21.800 --> 1:38:26.040 Jam playing it a lot, and I'm eventually gonna get 1:38:26.080 --> 1:38:29.080 the NBA JAM arcade system, you know, the whole cabinet. 1:38:29.120 --> 1:38:31.920 I'm gonna do it. You know again, I've talked about 1:38:31.920 --> 1:38:34.479 this before in the pot. We're getting closer because I 1:38:34.800 --> 1:38:37.479 think my buddy Chris just saw one the other day 1:38:37.520 --> 1:38:39.080 at the Walmart. He's like, is this what you were 1:38:39.080 --> 1:38:42.200 talking ABOUT'M like, that's it. That's it, so we know 1:38:42.280 --> 1:38:44.439 it's there. I can just go pick it up later 1:38:44.560 --> 1:38:45.640 today if I wanted to. 1:38:46.160 --> 1:38:47.480 And I'm a little. 1:38:47.240 --> 1:38:50.120 Jam on a Friday looking forward to the unboxing. 1:38:50.600 --> 1:38:52.400 Oh yes, I definitely will unbox that. 1:38:52.400 --> 1:38:53.040 Once I get that. 1:38:53.520 --> 1:38:55.840 Yeah, launch a twist channel if you get into gaming. 1:38:56.320 --> 1:38:58.160 Played a ton of it in the nineties, of course, 1:38:58.200 --> 1:39:00.599 but I'm bringing it back, all right. 1:39:00.640 --> 1:39:06.639 Jerdi shaving maybe you know it's been uh it has 1:39:06.960 --> 1:39:09.679 literally been since the nineties since I didn't have a beard. 1:39:09.760 --> 1:39:12.920 So and it's getting a little Yeah, when you can't 1:39:12.920 --> 1:39:16.880 see the logo on your shirt, it's it's getting a 1:39:16.920 --> 1:39:19.080 little zz top. So I don't know. I thought I 1:39:19.120 --> 1:39:21.960 was thinking what would happen if I just shave like 1:39:22.040 --> 1:39:26.040 complete no no facial hair. I don't it's literally been 1:39:26.080 --> 1:39:29.519 thirty years since I've since That's wow. It was just 1:39:29.720 --> 1:39:31.880 show up one day and just be like you would 1:39:31.880 --> 1:39:34.720 be like, who is that guy? Like you would not 1:39:34.840 --> 1:39:35.559 recognize me? 1:39:35.600 --> 1:39:38.559 Probably, Well, we've never known you. We've seen the odd 1:39:38.640 --> 1:39:42.040 photo maybe, but yeah, you've never known you without a beard. 1:39:41.880 --> 1:39:45.160 Right, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know me without 1:39:45.160 --> 1:39:47.920 a beard. Yeah, yeah, I had a beard ins for sure. 1:39:48.040 --> 1:39:48.560 Yeah. 1:39:48.600 --> 1:39:50.720 So I'm worried about my jowels. 1:39:52.880 --> 1:39:55.000 Do you know? 1:39:55.439 --> 1:39:55.880 I don't. 1:39:56.360 --> 1:39:56.719 I don't. 1:39:56.760 --> 1:40:00.360 I got no chin. That's my joke. I'm I'm and 1:40:00.520 --> 1:40:03.240 like Roger Ebert after he had his surgery, his lotch 1:40:03.320 --> 1:40:03.960 and removed. 1:40:14.680 --> 1:40:16.960 When I first started traveling in the nineties, I used 1:40:17.000 --> 1:40:18.519 to have a bum bag, a fanny pack as you 1:40:18.600 --> 1:40:20.200 call it over here, and I used to love it. 1:40:20.120 --> 1:40:22.920 Because fanny packs bum bags. They were in. They were 1:40:22.920 --> 1:40:25.400 in in, in, and then they were out out out. 1:40:25.479 --> 1:40:26.920 People like, get that out of here. 1:40:27.000 --> 1:40:28.759 No one wants to see you with a bum bag anymore. 1:40:28.800 --> 1:40:30.519 But I like them, So I did rock. 1:40:30.680 --> 1:40:33.960 I hold onto mine for a while, and now I've 1:40:34.000 --> 1:40:36.160 missed traveling so much. Next time I'm going on the plane, 1:40:36.200 --> 1:40:38.040 I'm getting a brand new bum bag. I'm putting the 1:40:38.080 --> 1:40:40.320 passports in it, I put my wallet in it, I'm 1:40:40.360 --> 1:40:42.560 put my phone in it. I'm bringing back it's a 1:40:42.560 --> 1:40:44.559 bum bag. I think it's time for it to come back. 1:40:44.600 --> 1:40:45.000 I think so. 1:40:45.160 --> 1:40:47.040 It's a cycle and they're cool. 1:40:47.160 --> 1:40:49.000 I like that they are back. I mean, Tree, you 1:40:49.040 --> 1:40:50.800 can probably speak to this better than I can. The 1:40:50.840 --> 1:40:53.679 fanny pack is it's back, isn't it last couple of years? 1:40:53.680 --> 1:40:55.400 I feel like you always see guys coming into the 1:40:55.400 --> 1:40:56.160 arena wearing them. 1:40:56.560 --> 1:40:58.479 Yeah, the fanny pack is back, but I've never heard 1:40:58.520 --> 1:41:02.200 it called a bum bag. Could definitely come back. 1:41:03.120 --> 1:41:05.679 What would you do, Lea? If Lebron tweeted at you, 1:41:05.680 --> 1:41:10.400 you bum bag, I would say, you see it's back 1:41:10.479 --> 1:41:11.880 in the bum bag is back. 1:41:12.520 --> 1:41:13.439 See the fannie pack. 1:41:13.360 --> 1:41:16.160 Means something different in Australia or you. I woke around 1:41:16.160 --> 1:41:18.040 sign up people, I've got my fanny packed out. 1:41:19.960 --> 1:41:21.120 And Jenny would just laugh. 1:41:23.240 --> 1:41:26.880 That's true, that's true. All right, that's a rapid fire. 1:41:27.000 --> 1:41:29.439 Let's call it there. 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