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Speaker 2: Do you have a leg press? Good morning, sweet world,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 2: We got the bass Master ripping them lips. Nice shirt there,

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Speaker 2: Trey Kirby, Hey hey, oh yes, the great Dead Lithuania shirt.

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Speaker 2: That is amazing there TK. We also have the international

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Speaker 2: Lee last but not least making the magic happen. It's

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Speaker 2: JD Hello, there is and here we are. Shout out

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, Trey, I got Embiid right now

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Speaker 5: I love it all. He's got it all.

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Speaker 4: But but also again, the Lake is their their their

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Speaker 2: Anything else to add to the MVP conversation or just

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you named everybody that's in the league.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's get to our next award. It's most improved

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Speaker 6: He missed that huge three against the Warriors, made a

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Speaker 6: It happened last night, so it matters the most. I'm kidding, Skeets,

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Speaker 6: Little known fact about me, I was Plano High School's

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Speaker 6: it looks good. Number two on my ballot Christian Wood

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Speaker 6: from the field, career high from three. He's got better playmaking,

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00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 6: his handle has improved, his usage rate is now up

429
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,440
Speaker 6: to thirty. That's superstar level. Celtics have been bawling because

430
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 6: he's really knocking on superstar status. Jason Tatum, like tast Set,

431
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,280
Speaker 6: has missed some games, Kemba Walker missed some games, but

432
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 6: Jalen Brown has been there doing it every single night

433
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 6: for the Celtics. Really impressive stuff.

434
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Speaker 2: All right, I didn't see that coming. I like that

435
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,879
Speaker 2: pick though, task What do you think about that? Jalen

436
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 2: at number one on your leader board?

437
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 3: That was a great one. No, he threw me for

438
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 3: a curveball. I've kind of forgotten about the Jalen banwig.

439
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,680
Speaker 3: I guess I've just come to accept that Jalen Brown

440
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 3: is awesome and I don't think of him as an

441
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,440
Speaker 3: improved player because I've been you know, I followed the

442
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 3: lead every tray is. You know, jumped on that bad

443
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 3: and Wigan last year and I'm on there. I wonder

444
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 3: what happens to his shots when when Jason Tatum comes back.

445
00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,439
Speaker 3: He definitely was kicking ass when Tatum was in the

446
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 3: lineup earlier this season. He's come back a little bit

447
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,720
Speaker 3: to earth. Jayalen Brown was shooting like sixty percent from

448
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 3: the field. But yeah, he's phenomenal. I don't know. The

449
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,879
Speaker 3: jump isn't as big than it is for Jeremy Grant.

450
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,919
Speaker 3: As Trey said that, that and Christian Wood are just

451
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 3: those two stand out to me as big jumps when

452
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 3: I look at it the Most Improved Player award. It's

453
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 3: harder to go from good to great like traded in

454
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 3: his senior year at a Plano or you know these

455
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 3: numbers where you just get playing time, you get a role.

456
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 3: Christian Wood is that guy, and Jeremy Grant is just

457
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 3: he's just phenomenal. It's not like he's gotten you know,

458
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 3: more minutes. The numbers are wild. He's taking ten more

459
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 3: shots a game, but the percentages are exactly the same.

460
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I didn't think that that was going to happen.

461
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 3: He has scored twenty or more in thirteen consecutive games.

462
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 3: That just doesn't happen on good percentages. And you know,

463
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 3: some say that anybody somebody has to score. I should

464
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 3: say on the Detroit Pistons, somebody has to score. But

465
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 3: he's doing it efficiently, so he's he's great. I think

466
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 3: he's probably the front runner along with Christian Wood. Depending

467
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: the last sixty games of the season, their number increases

468
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: just too damn high to deny them.

469
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Speaker 2: Lely and who you got, yeah the end.

470
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Speaker 4: The other name I would throw in there, I like

471
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Speaker 4: the Jalen Brown pick is Chris Bouchet from the Raptors.

472
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Speaker 4: I think he's been incredible, shooting sixty percent on from

473
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Speaker 4: the field, averaging fifteen and a half points a game,

474
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 4: forty eight percent from downtown, and six rebounds. So he's

475
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 4: clearly having his best season for the Raptors. The Raptors record, obviously,

476
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 4: they've they've started off badly. They lost a lot of

477
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 4: games at the start.

478
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Speaker 2: But he doesn't play a ton of minutes either.

479
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 4: Well but yeah, but still that's that's good though for

480
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Speaker 4: his Well, that that's good.

481
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Speaker 2: But I got a little trivia question off of that

482
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Speaker 2: for you, Lee Okay, can you name Okay? I saw

483
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 2: this from bleacher Report. The NBA hasn't had a most

484
00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 2: improved player who averaged under thirty minutes since this in

485
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: ninety seven ninety eight. A tough one. This is a

486
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 2: tough mip. We don't talk about this guy a lot.

487
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 2: He played for the Hawks.

488
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 3: For sure.

489
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: I think he played for the Nets. The well fact

490
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: check that while you guys maybe try and pick it. Yeah,

491
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 2: he's got a very oh, he's got a very common

492
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: sort of last name a lot Jo Henderson. Yeah, man

493
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: TK coming through with Alan Henderson. Did he play for

494
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 2: one that didner? I'm sorry. He played for the MAVs,

495
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: the Cavs and the Sixers at the end of his career.

496
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking of. So anyway, it's very,

497
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: very tough to do. I guess was my point. Dell

498
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: Bouche at twenty four minutes per game right now, that

499
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 2: could go up if he gets the starting nod eventually

500
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: in Toronto.

501
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

502
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 4: The other hey, what about this guy, Colin Sixton is

503
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 4: averaging twenty seven points a game for the Caves.

504
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:43,959
Speaker 5: Now.

505
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 4: He's only played nine games. He's missed the couple, but

506
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 4: he's shooting fifty three percent from the field and fifty

507
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 4: percent from downtown. Only three and a half sitts the game,

508
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 4: but a steal and a half as well, And obviously

509
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 4: the Calves have been a much better team, and you

510
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 4: know this season, last season, but twenty seven a game

511
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 4: over nine games, that's that's not just the tiny sample size,

512
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 4: you know.

513
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, I had him in the mix as well, but

514
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 6: I kind of think he's just on fire right now.

515
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 6: The guy cannot miss from outside, so ergo, his scoring

516
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 6: stats are going to be the same because when you

517
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 6: look deep into it, he's taking the same kind of shots.

518
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 6: He's doing the same stuff assist wise. Like you're saying, like,

519
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 6: but he is on fire and we just saw him

520
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 6: score twenty straight for the Cavaliers, So how can you

521
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 6: not put him in the mix.

522
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: I love the Jaalen Brown pick. I gotta say I

523
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 2: sort of had forgotten about him. I think I was

524
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: like task, Like I just you know, we were debating

525
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 2: Jaalen Brown's All Star capabilities last year, so he's obviously

526
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: we thought he was a good player, but he's taken

527
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: it to the next level. I'm not going to disagree

528
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: with that. Another hate what about this guy? Maybe Julius Randall. Yeah,

529
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,479
Speaker 2: I mean what he's doing. I mean, like, I know,

530
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: he's sort of always had good numbers, but they're up

531
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: this year and obviously it's impacting the knicks in the

532
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: wind calumn as well, so I think he's added some

533
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: things to his game as well.

534
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, he has to do a ton So this missed

535
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 4: out on his triple double again last week.

536
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of guys. It sounds like most

537
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: people probably Jeremy Grant, Christian Wood, and then Jillen Brown

538
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: is an interesting pick. So let's hear from you.

539
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 6: And for me of Brown is because like Task to say,

540
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 6: and it is harder to go to good from good

541
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 6: to great, and we've already We've known that Jalen Brown

542
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 6: is a good player basically since his rookie year. But

543
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 6: you look at the list of guys who have won

544
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 6: Most Improved in the past couple of seasons, it's Brandon Ingram,

545
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 6: Pascal Siakam, Victor Oladipo Jannis back in the day. They're

546
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 6: going from established good player too, you're making All Star teams,

547
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 6: and I think Jalen Brown is going to be an

548
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 6: All Star.

549
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: That's a good point, Paul George. I think comes to

550
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: mind too, right, he sort of did that leap and

551
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: that's sort where my mind goes to when I think

552
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: Jaylen Brown. So yeah, no, for sure, if that trend continues,

553
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: then he could win this link all right, sixth man

554
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: of the Year so far tasks who you got top three.

555
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 3: And number three? I'm going with the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

556
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 3: Shake Milton, what a name. Shake. He has been everything

557
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: the seventy six Ers have hoped for. Seventeen points off

558
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 3: the bench. He's in the mix for most improved player

559
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 3: as well, going from nine points a game last year

560
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: to seventeen this year. Nearly fifty percent for a guard.

561
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 3: That's a lovely Doc Rivers and Darryl Morey talked him

562
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: up in the preseason. This guy's amazing. This guy's amazing.

563
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 3: Usually when front office people talk about a player like that,

564
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 3: they're just kind of bigging him up. And then in

565
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: the regular season he drops off. This guy skyrocket, he's

566
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: doing great. Number two. You guys mentioned him, Chris Bouche.

567
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 3: He's not your typical six man for the Toronto Rappers.

568
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 3: He's a backup center.

569
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

570
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a backup center.

571
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 3: He's a backup big. He's an anomaly. He is one

572
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: of a kind. You watch him out there. He's got

573
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: a unique shot. But he you know, when you think

574
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: about a six man, you don't think about blocking shots,

575
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: but he does a lot of it. He just does

576
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: a lot. So from this list, I think Chris Bouche

577
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: probably does the most because he blocks two and a

578
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 3: half shots a game, fifteen and a half points, sixty

579
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 3: percent from the floor, forty eight percent from three. Yeah,

580
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 3: that's wild. Is that going to come down? Yes, but

581
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 3: still hitting a couple of game. That's that is instrumental

582
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: for the Reps right now because they're not getting anything

583
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 3: from their center play. And yes, it's most likely Chris

584
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 3: Bouche will become a center. I don't know who. That's

585
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: what Nick Nurse does. He's a mastermind. Maybe he's gonna

586
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: keep starting. Aaron Bain's playing for twelve minutes and Bouchet

587
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: the better player coming off the bench, but at number

588
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: one with a bullet. The sixth man of the year

589
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 3: right now, it's Jordan Clarkson. This guy's found his spot

590
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: in the league. You think back to his Laker days.

591
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: He's playing behind Kobe Bryant and he's starting. Then he

592
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 3: went to the bench and he wasn't great off the bench.

593
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 3: Then he just wasn't in his lane. He just didn't

594
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: know that I'm a score that's what I do. And

595
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: then he went to Cleveland and he played behind Lebron

596
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 3: and he still couldn't find his role. So that's that's

597
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: the point. When you had two tries and you haven't

598
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: found your role, maybe you're not gonna find in this league.

599
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 3: But then he got traded to Utah, had a really

600
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: good season last year, you know, only had half a

601
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: season there, and the Jazz are kicking ass this year

602
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: and Jordan Clarkson's going along for the ride. Top bench

603
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: player with seventeen and a half points per game, forty

604
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 3: nine from the floor, forty three from three. Those are

605
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 3: great Jordan Clarkson numbers from blowing kisses to the jenners

606
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 3: to ballin' he is. He is the best Jordan Clarkson

607
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: I've ever seen. You know, he was just he looked

608
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: like a guy who is just going to sort of

609
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 3: float around the league for a long time. But he's

610
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: found a spot. He should never leave the bench ever. Ever. Ever,

611
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: He's in a perfect spot.

612
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: He's a contract deal, too, isn't he. He's not paid

613
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: a ton if I remember correctly, fifty. Yeah, so he's

614
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 2: making like eleven and a half. That means or something

615
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: like that, twelve maybe this year. That's a hell of

616
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: a bargain deal for Jordan Clarkson coming off through bench.

617
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: So you're right, he's just having a super efficient year

618
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: off the pine. And he is sort of like the

619
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: prototypical six man you think of, a guy comes in

620
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: and just shoots and scores and gets you back in

621
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: games or builds leads and stuff like that, and can

622
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: be out there in closing games too. Okay, Clarkson is

623
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: a task his pick. You agree with that one trade

624
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: you have somebody else.

625
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 6: I've got almost the same ballot as Task Clarkson is

626
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 6: my guy for the number one slot because he's the

627
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 6: new j R.

628
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 5: Smith.

629
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 6: He even dresses awesome to come into games, and then

630
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 6: he goes out there and shoots every time. He's taking

631
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 6: a lot more threes this year, just like the rest

632
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 6: of the Jazz are really helping him score efficiently. Bouche

633
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 6: number two. But my number three I got Patty Mills. Yeah, Yeah,

634
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 6: Patty Mills. He's kind of emblematic of a fun Spurs bench.

635
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 6: He picks up the pace when he comes in there.

636
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 6: The Spurs second unit, I think is a lot more

637
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 6: fun to watch than their first unit and part of

638
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 6: the reason they've been so successful this year. But you

639
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 6: could easily go Shake Milton. The only reason I'm really

640
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 6: picking Patty over Shake Patty over shit.

641
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: Crazy.

642
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 6: But the only reason I'm going with Patty Mills over

643
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 6: Shake Milton is because I got some more sixers coming

644
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 6: up in some awards here, so I wanted to sprinkle

645
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 6: sprinkle some other stuff here for the Spurs.

646
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Leah, sounded like you're very happy with Patty

647
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: Mills making Tray's top three at least.

648
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's having a career best year coming off the bench,

649
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 4: shooting the ball, scoring points, and I think he's been

650
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: instrumental to the Spurs in their wins. So I'm glad

651
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: that Patty is getting that recognition because the Spurs, you know,

652
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: they're up and down. Watch Sometimes you want to watch them,

653
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 4: sometimes you don't. But Patty, he's really grown in that

654
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: role there in San Antonio. And always say this about

655
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 4: Patty that I don't think he shot selection has changed

656
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: all that much in his entire career. I just think

657
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 4: he knocks him in now. At the start, he used

658
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: to just fire away and a bit like Jordan Clarkson,

659
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 4: you know, the first couple of season was like he

660
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: just fires away. But now they go in and that

661
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 4: makes a huge difference. So but absolutely I agreed that

662
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 4: Jordan Clarkson would be the clear favorite to win this

663
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: award right now.

664
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Speaker 2: You had some fun talking to Shane Hill the hammer

665
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: about Patty Mills. Really got around to listening to it.

666
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: That came up. For sure, it was great. He's sounded

667
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: like a big Paddy Mills fan himself.

668
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he was.

669
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: I mean Shane Hill was a bit of a smaller

670
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: player too in terms of his stature, and he used

671
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 4: to go out there and fire, and so I think

672
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 4: he sees a little bit of Paddy Mills and himself

673
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: there and also played in San Antonio under Greg Popovich

674
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: too there the hammert So yeah, great.

675
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: Awesome, all right, Clarkson all of us taking him for

676
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: the leader right now as six man of the Year

677
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: because I agree with you, guys. No to add on

678
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: to Bouche and what he's doing off the bench for

679
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: the Raptors. He leads the league in true shooting percentage

680
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: and offensive reading. Right, Chris Bouche, wild wild times we're

681
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: living in here in twenty twenty one. All right, Rookie

682
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: of the Year. I'll get a started with this. I

683
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: think it's pretty cool. First off, how many rookies are

684
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: making like an impact right now. And now I don't

685
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: know if that's maybe a little bit because of COVID

686
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: and all like these like guys missing time and with

687
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: the health and safety protocols, and maybe there's more minutes,

688
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: more opportunities for some of these rooks to get in there.

689
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: But a lot of guys are like contributing. And we

690
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: have never here on no dunks pretended to be draft experts,

691
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: but it does seem and correct me if I'm wrong.

692
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: Guys like this rookie class is already a little bit

693
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: better than most expected. We have fourteen rookies I think

694
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: it is that are slash were because Killy and Hayes

695
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: is now out with an injury. Averaging over twenty minutes

696
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: per game. That's pretty significant. So a lot of guys contributing.

697
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: But my top three Warriors rookie James Wiseman at number three.

698
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: You know, the numbers will not wow you. Actually, with

699
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: all of these guys, the number aren't going to be like, whoa,

700
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: that guy's like a twenty ten already. It's not like

701
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: that this year with these rookies, but they're impactful. Wiseman

702
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: has impressed obviously being the starter there for the Golden

703
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: State Warriors and helping he's out. He has some duds,

704
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: but then he has some great games where he's like,

705
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: oh yeah, you could see why this guy was such

706
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 2: a high pick. He could be a you know, a

707
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: building block. And number two because of his impact. Probably

708
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: the most impactful rookie, Tyrese Haliburton with the Kings, fortunately

709
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: hasn't translated into a ton of win for the Kings,

710
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: but he helps them. He definitely helps watch the watch

711
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: sacrament of Kings basketball when he's out there averaging eleven

712
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: three and five. But number one, I'm going with the

713
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: Hornets rookie LaMelo Ball. He's averaging twelve seven and six.

714
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 2: He leads the rookies in win shares, so he's actually

715
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: having an impact on the w's Now he's only shooting

716
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: forty percent from the field and still like pretty abysmal

717
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: for a guard, sixty eight percent from the line, but

718
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: he's hitting over a three and a half per game

719
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: and it's thirty three percent. You know that you want

720
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: to get that a little bit higher, but he could.

721
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: And he's just getting more minutes here in the new year,

722
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: he's getting twenty seven minutes per game. Brego is trusting

723
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: him more and more, and he's a human highlight film.

724
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: Money's out there. He must watch televis. So it's close.

725
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys agreed disagree who you

726
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: have number one? But I got Ball, then Haliburton and

727
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: then Wiseman, and you could obviously play what about this guy?

728
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: I think with this rookie class, but tasts, what do

729
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: you think do you have ball number one.

730
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: MM, you're a wise man, but I think you should

731
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 3: put James first. James Wiseman. Yeah, I think it's tough

732
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: to be a center in this league right out the gate.

733
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: The Mell's got the ball.

734
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 2: Well, no, it's more difficult to be a point guard

735
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: in this league, right, Yeah, he's playing a point guard.

736
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 6: Would say the big man defense is the hardest thing

737
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 6: to learn in the NBA.

738
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 5: But I'm sure you're right.

739
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't play much anyway, It is a toss up.

740
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: This draft class is phenomenal so far. There's no there

741
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: isn't one standout. It's sort of like the MVP minus

742
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: fifteen points per game, but there's like a billion that

743
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: you can you can talk about Haliburton. He was injured.

744
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: I guess that plays a role. But anyway, those guys, yeah,

745
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: they have impressed coming out the gate. We talked about

746
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: this whole this draft class for one three thirty. Well,

747
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: is there is there a Camp miss prospect. No, there

748
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: wasn't a campus prospect. But they're all, you know, playing

749
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: fairly well here to start this season. So it's been

750
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 3: a pleasant.

751
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: Surprise, including the number one pick Anthony Edwards. So I

752
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: think who has impressed some people, at least Patrick Williams

753
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: obviously the Florists, and Chicago's played well, there's a ton

754
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: like obviously some knicks as well. Yeah, who do you have? Leley?

755
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: Though?

756
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: At number one? Do you go Wiseman, do you go Bald?

757
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: You got somebody else?

758
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: No, I'm going LaMelo ball to I can excuse the

759
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 4: shooting for rookies because hardly any rookies come out there

760
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: and start shooting high percentages or decent percentages straight away.

761
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 4: It takes a few years to work on that. But

762
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: Mello's doing the rebounds seven a game, six assists the game,

763
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 4: and he's lived up to the hype. And I think

764
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: that's the hardest thing to do for a rookie, because

765
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: all rookies a hype to some degree. But LaMelo not

766
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: coming from college, you know, playing down in Australia. It

767
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 4: was like, well, he's playing in a lesser league, but

768
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 4: he's playing against men, so will that help him?

769
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 5: Will that hurt him?

770
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: I think he's gone out there, he's come off the bench,

771
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: he's accepted that role and he's not afraid to take

772
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: those shots either. He again, he's not shooting it great,

773
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: but he's like, listen, if I'm open, I'm gonna take it.

774
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: So I like that about him. I think he's been very,

775
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: very important for the Hornets so far. Wiseman has been good.

776
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 4: Wiseman probably started off a little bit better than Mellow,

777
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 4: but I think Mellow has just gotten a little bit

778
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 4: more comfortable the last couple of games. So I would

779
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 4: have Mellow, Wiseman, and either Redwoods or Halliburton, probably Edwards.

780
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: I suppose number three, but hey, yeah, you know you're

781
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 4: you're fanangling the numbers a little bit there anyway, So

782
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 4: it's really down to one and two, and I think

783
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: it's lamellow ball right now.

784
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 6: TK talk rook, so you got I got the same

785
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 6: exact ballad as you, Skeets wise minute three. I do

786
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 6: think he's probably playing the most important minutes playing as

787
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 6: a center of the most important defensive spot on the

788
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 6: basketball courters. You guys know I love defense.

789
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, well you're switching it up now.

790
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: I thought you didn't care about.

791
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 6: Defense, Skeets. I'm giving you the backstory here. I did

792
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 6: win MIP in high school senior year as I played defense.

793
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 6: I hate to say I played defense. I was rebounded,

794
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 6: I was taking jog as I was setting screened. When

795
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 6: you're the tallest guy in the school, Why do you

796
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 6: think I hate defense? I hate him doing my whole life.

797
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: Let me shoot pat.

798
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 6: Anyways, so I got him at number three, But him

799
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 6: playing these important minutes is huge, right, Like he's playing

800
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 6: on a team that has championship aspirations. They're probably not

801
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 6: getting to the finals this year, but this is a

802
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 6: team that is a championship organization. They've got Steph Curry,

803
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 6: They've got Draymond Green. What he's doing is impressive for

804
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 6: a guy who is super young to have to actually

805
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 6: step into a playoff situation. Palli Burton is the guy

806
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 6: that every team wants. He's the next andre Iguidala to me,

807
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 6: from a connectivity standpoint, they don't play the same, but

808
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 6: just the extra juice he gives you on the court,

809
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 6: the ability to do anything you need and the ability

810
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 6: to keep the ball moving and make the right decision.

811
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 6: Incredible from a rookie. But LaMelo is the guy. He

812
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 6: is a star. He's a building block. He's leading rookies

813
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 6: in points, rebounds, assists, and steals and he needs to

814
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 6: play more. Start him already. What are you waiting for.

815
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we could get an awful close to

816
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: that trivia question with the rookie class, can you name

817
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: the guy of all the rookies who play is the

818
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: most minutes per game? It's not anyone we've said, Sorry,

819
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: who'd you say, Trey, No, it's nobody we've mentioned. No, no, no,

820
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: the guy that went top five. I'll give you that.

821
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: So there's a hell of a giveaway.

822
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 6: Okay, who is the fifth draft remember any more?

823
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 3: A Coro?

824
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 2: I think that's right, Isaac A Coral thirty seven point

825
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 2: four minutes per game, which seems like what it seems

826
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 2: almost like an error run basketball reference. But yeah, gets

827
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: a lot of burn from them out there. They're like,

828
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: what you can do? Contribute on both ends? He's been

829
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: all right too, he'd be in the mix, is well,

830
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: I guess I'm getting out here. But again, like definitely

831
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: uh quickly for the Knicks. Is impressed, Peyton Pritchard for

832
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: the Celtics, and we're gonna do that. Cole Anthony We've

833
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 2: talked about a little bit, so there's been a lot,

834
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: so it's been pretty impressive. But yeah, who's the star

835
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: who will be? Like that's a fun question. Who will

836
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: be the guy from this rookie class in five years, Like,

837
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: is it is Lamello? Is it Wiseman, is it Edwards?

838
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 2: Is it Patrick Williams? I mean, I can talk myself

839
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: into any of those guys being them, to be honest,

840
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: So let's just from hear it. Yeah, he's played well.

841
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: I wanted to get Williams in there. He has played

842
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: really well for them. I think, all right, defensive player

843
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: of the year Lee talk defense. We almost gave this

844
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: one to Trey just to anger it.

845
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: I sort of wish you did give it to train

846
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: in the end, because when I dug into this one

847
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 4: last night, I went down a rabbit hole and I

848
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 4: was like, I shouldn't have volunteered to do this one

849
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: because because the Lakers have the best defensive rating in

850
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 4: the league right now, then it's the Cavs and the Knicks,

851
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, come on, that can't be right.

852
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 4: Then you got the Grizzlies, Okay, the seventy six is fine. Okay,

853
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 4: that's a good defensive team. Then you still got the Mavericks.

854
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 4: Remember they started off the season pretty hot, So I'm like, okay.

855
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 2: This must be the jazz around there.

856
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 5: Then around the Jazz and next in seventh.

857
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 4: But okay, I'll start at number three on my Defensive

858
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 4: Player of the Year leader board. I'm going with Miles Turner.

859
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 5: Now.

860
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: He's largely here because he's averaging a massive four point

861
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 4: two blocks per game. Now, he probably would be higher

862
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 4: on other leaderboards because people will sort of look at

863
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 4: those defensive stats and say, wow, well he must be

864
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: doing well, he must be great defensive player. The paces

865
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: are only thirteenth in defensive rating, though, and the more

866
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 4: I looked into I thought, I don't even know if

867
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 4: he's their best defensive player. I think at Sibonus, the

868
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: numbers say Sibonis they're better when he's on the bench,

869
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: and I'm like, that doesn't jive with what I'm seeing

870
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 4: out Come on, come on. And also Myles Turner. I'm

871
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 4: reluctant also to put him higher because his pick and

872
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 4: roll defense has improved, but it still needs needs work.

873
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 4: So he's getting the stats. So he gets in there

874
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 4: at number three.

875
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: Okay, and he's out right now with an injury. Of

876
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 2: course he needed there with an injury.

877
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: With the hand injury.

878
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, at number two of my Defensive Player of the

879
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 4: Year leader board.

880
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 5: I'm going with Kawhi.

881
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 4: Leonard, now fourth in Steel's third in total plus minus

882
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: in the league. When he's on the court, no surprise,

883
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 4: the Clippers are much better at both ends of the floor,

884
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: but they have the equivalent equivalent of about the third

885
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 4: best D in the league. And when he sits, it's

886
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: pretty much as bad as the Kings, the Wizards, Bulls, Wolves, Blazers.

887
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 4: So clearly Kawi Leonard. He's won this award before twice.

888
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 4: I think he's a two time defensive Player of the Year.

889
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 4: But the Clippers D in total is only fifteenth in

890
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: the league. But when he's out there, they are a

891
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 4: much better team, and the Clippers have quietly improved after

892
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 4: a bit of a sluggish start. His team lost by

893
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 4: fifty points though as well. So I can't give a guy,

894
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 4: you know, to defensive player of the Year when you

895
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 4: lose that by that much at home. But at number one, Sketsy,

896
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 4: you might get angry here, but anyway, I've got I've

897
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 4: got to go with it defensive number one.

898
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 5: On my Defensive Player of.

899
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: The Year leader bought, I'm going with Rudy Gobert, but

900
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 4: it probably should actually be Mike Conley because when Mike.

901
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 2: Cutts Rudy Gobert.

902
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 5: Mate, you got to listen.

903
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: When Mike Conley's on the court, the Jazz have the

904
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 4: best d in the league by a mile, and when

905
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: he sits second worst. But I'm going with Rudy Gobert

906
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 4: because you know the numbers.

907
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 3: Because it's a good listen.

908
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 4: He has more work to do short than Mike Conley.

909
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 4: But I think the Jazz seventh best defensive team in

910
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 4: the league, and Rudy Gobert does lead the league in

911
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 4: defensive field goal percentagele that's how geeky do you want

912
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 4: to get with these stuff?

913
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: He's like, Rudy Golbert is the king of the advanced

914
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: defensiveness exactly exactly.

915
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: But again that the numbers will tell you. For the Jazz,

916
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: Mike Conley is their most impactful defensive player. I know

917
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: the eye test, Man, It's different, isn't it. You know,

918
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 4: You're like, Wow, who would you rather have out there

919
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 4: protecting the paint? Mike Mike Conley on the on the perimeter.

920
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 6: But Mike Conley has played all but fifty minutes this

921
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 6: season alongside Rudy go The reason his defensive reading is

922
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 6: so good is because he's on the court with Rudy Gobert.

923
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: I know, I know, but I don't think we we

924
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: we give him the credit that he deserves. He's a

925
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: very good defensive player, Mike Conley.

926
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: But Okay, I'm fine, I can agree with that, but

927
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say he's the better.

928
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I'm going with Rudy Gobert, but

929
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: I'm just saying again, when you when you dig into

930
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 4: these numbers and you just go, oh my god, like

931
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 4: like Conley's like the best defense in the league by

932
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 4: a mile when he's out on court, not with Rudy.

933
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 4: It's not the same case with Ruby. So the Jazz

934
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 4: seventh in the league and defense, you know, you always

935
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 4: expect them to be somewhere in that top five mix.

936
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 4: So I think that will improve because again I don't

937
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 4: see the cads in the Knicks staying there all season long. Right, Okay,

938
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 4: does have an impact, But yeah, I'm going with Rudy Gobert.

939
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 4: But I'm like, Mike Conley sort of is going to

940
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: be the one presenting him.

941
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: With that award.

942
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 6: Rudy, at least if he wins it, he should let

943
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 6: Mike Conley carry the war around it'll be his third one.

944
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 6: It's like, all right, man, just carried around, you've never

945
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 6: made an All Star team. You can hang onto my trophy.

946
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

947
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: The shocking part herely to me is not that you

948
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: have Rudy Gobert number one. It's maybe who you have

949
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: to at two and three or who you didn't have

950
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: at two and three. I think Anthony Davis would still

951
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: warrant a lot of defensive player of the reports and

952
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: a Joelle embiid as we talked about. So, okay, Tash,

953
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: what do you think of Lee's list there? And you

954
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: can touch on coldly if.

955
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 6: You want to.

956
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: I mean, let's just throw it at LEAs. You got

957
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 3: to stop looking at defensive stats. You got you went

958
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: into the trade machine this year. Just just start with that. Man,

959
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: This is a this is a lot too for you.

960
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: Miles Cerner is a great defender. I think he could

961
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: he could be at the top. But Anthony Davis is

962
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: leading a Lakers defense that is number one in the

963
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 3: league by a pretty good amount, which is shocking to me.

964
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 3: Anthony Davis is not having a great offensive year by

965
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 3: his standards whatsoever, But him and Lebron have somehow got

966
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: everybody on that team to play defense, even though they

967
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: lost Avery Bradley, who was the starter for much of

968
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 3: the year, they lost Danny Green, they lost Dwight Howard,

969
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: and then they stopped in some some good defenders, some

970
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: not so good defenders, and they've got the number one defense.

971
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: I think a d would probably get it. If you

972
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: look back and see that Giannis won it last year

973
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: with the number one defense, you know it sure seems

974
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 3: like Anthony Davis would be given that nod this year,

975
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: and he was pretty close last year as well. So yeah,

976
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: I did not volunteer for this award because I don't

977
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: like looking at defensive numbers. I don't think they mean

978
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: all that much. It's it's really just about impacting the game.

979
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 3: And yeah, is really really good, but they should be

980
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: even better. And Miles Turner is really really good. I

981
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 3: think they should be even better. So yeah, I think

982
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 3: just even looking at the best defensive teams is probably

983
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 3: the most important metric to look at.

984
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 6: What do you got TK, Well, I actually got Myles

985
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 6: Turner as my number one because I love looking at

986
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 6: the stats. This is actually the worst award because you

987
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 6: got to look at the stats. He is by far

988
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 6: the best rim protector in the league. Right now, the

989
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 6: Pacers have the league best defense when he's on the court.

990
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 6: He's also averaging a steal and a half as a

991
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 6: big guy, four point two blocks, leading the league, and

992
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 6: the lowest defensive field goal percentage at the rim while

993
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 6: challenging the most shots at the rim. Rim defense is

994
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 6: the biggest part of defense in the NBA because a

995
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 6: dunk is still the best shot in basketball, so if

996
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 6: you're able to deter them, then that's good. The only

997
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 6: knock on Turner is that he doesn't rebound, but Demanta

998
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 6: Sabonis does rebound. Lee like you're saying, you would maybe

999
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 6: think that Demonta Sabonis is the best defender on the Pacers,

1000
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 6: but he's not very good at the rim. To be

1001
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 6: quite honest, the other guys I would have in the

1002
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 6: mix jowel Embiid. He gives you the rebounding that Turner doesn't,

1003
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 6: and the pace are The Sixers have been good, and

1004
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 6: Rudy Gobert obviously still elite, but I've got Embiid at

1005
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 6: number two over Rudy o'bert because Embiid doesn't have a

1006
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 6: lockdown guy like Mike Conley out there helping him.

1007
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I like everybody getting all these guys in here,

1008
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: I go Rudy Gobert. I actually think he's sort of

1009
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: running away with it at the one month in mark.

1010
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: Although all these other guys are phenomenal defenders Turner Davis, Embiid, yes,

1011
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: Mike Conley as well, but you know, Rudy second best

1012
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: defensive rating, second most defensive win share, second most blocks,

1013
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: third most rebounds, and like that's his role, his goal.

1014
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: Like what I love about these Rudy Gobert lines you're

1015
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: seeing from all these Jazz wins is like, not Rudy

1016
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: eighteen twenty twenty two points, It's like thirteen points, and

1017
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: then there's twelve thirteen rebounds, and then it's like three blocks,

1018
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: and then we know how much he just deters as well.

1019
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: And yeah, you're right, the Jazz team defense feels like

1020
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 2: it should be higher, like, but seventh is still good.

1021
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: And I'm sure if we really, you know, dig into it,

1022
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: like I don't have it in front of you, what's

1023
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: the gap between the second best defense in the league

1024
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 2: and the seventh best defense in the league this early

1025
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: the season. I'm sure it's pretty close, though, I do

1026
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: agree with I think Task said at the Lakers are

1027
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: sort of a you know, a marginal or not marginally

1028
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: quite impressively a little bit better than whoever's in second.

1029
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: But I go, Rudy Gobert, let's hear from you. Guys.

1030
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 2: No one wanted that award. That was the last one

1031
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: filled in in our document.

1032
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: You know.

1033
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: I asked Tasser Lee, who wants it? And Lee put

1034
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: up his little emoticon hand. So I was like, Okay,

1035
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: I guess Lee's into it. I knew Task was avoiding it.

1036
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: He was like, I don't want to do this. I

1037
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: didn't want to do it, obviously, but I signed up.

1038
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 6: For Coach of the Year rather than talk about.

1039
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: Well that's the thing though, with defense, I think it

1040
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 4: is more about sort of eye test and feel. It's

1041
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: like they are just a better defense than this. That's

1042
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 4: necessarily right.

1043
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: Because like look at Andre Drummond. Look at Andre Drummond's

1044
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: defensive numbers. Yeah, okay, and you just got Downe talking

1045
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: about the Casby and one of the best defensive teams.

1046
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: He leaves like rebounding by a mile. Yeah, he's got

1047
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: tons of blocks and steels. I mean, he's a decent defender.

1048
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: But we don't even We hadn't even included him in

1049
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: the conversation here, so what up with that?

1050
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Larry Nance Junior, I believe leads the league

1051
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 4: in total steals and deflections. Right, you wouldn't know one's

1052
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 4: saying Larry Nance Junior is in contentent of defense.

1053
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 5: We play of the year.

1054
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 4: But he's doing this counting numbers and it's having an

1055
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 4: impact on his team.

1056
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: And Isaac accorro leads the league in minutes played per

1057
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 3: game for rookies. Nobody's talking about.

1058
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 5: And the six man's up to twenty seven.

1059
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: Again, we're gonna win the championship. Yes, we have determined that. Okay, well,

1060
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: maybe the camps are in running for Coach of the Year.

1061
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: That's our final award, Trey, you wanted this over defensive

1062
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: Player of the Year.

1063
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 6: Man.

1064
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: Let's talk about guys in well, I was gonna say suits,

1065
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: but they're not in suits, wear polos.

1066
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 6: So yeah, let's talk about guys in quarter zips. Let's

1067
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 6: talk about guys named Steve who often wear corner zips.

1068
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 6: Let me tell you, for personal experience, Coach of the

1069
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 6: Year candidates number three for me? You know it, Billy Donovan.

1070
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 6: The holes made one change in the offseason. They brought

1071
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 6: in a new coach. They said it's time for Billy ball,

1072
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 6: and now we all recognize that the balls are one

1073
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 6: hundred totally and fully back. Their record could be even

1074
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 6: better than it is. But there are so many guys

1075
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 6: that you could put into this number three spot for

1076
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 6: teams that have kind of exceeded expectations. My number two

1077
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 6: on the ballot, Taylor Jenkins of the Memphis Grizzlies, talked

1078
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 6: about it on Wednesday's show, My biggest surprise of the season.

1079
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 6: So far, they've gotten five games from Jaw and Jaron.

1080
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 6: They're seven and six, playing as a top five defense,

1081
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 6: and I think defensive coaches get a lot of cred

1082
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 6: in the Coach of the Year voting because it's all

1083
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 6: about scheme and it's all about buy in. Both of

1084
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 6: those things are a factor for Taylor Jenkins. Here. Everybody's

1085
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 6: playing hard and they're forcing a whole bunch of turnovers.

1086
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 6: It's working in Memphis or as that song goes, well,

1087
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 6: Gonay mayl fizz. But my number one by a mile,

1088
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 6: Doc Rivers is coach of the Year for me right now.

1089
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 6: The best record in the Eastern Conference. More importantly, it

1090
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,720
Speaker 6: looks like he made sense of this roster pretty quickly.

1091
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 6: They've been a ragtag bunch. They've had Embiden, Simmons and

1092
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 6: Harris there for the majority of it. Embiiden Harris look

1093
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 6: particularly unlocked. Doc Rivers just seems to know how to

1094
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 6: get the best out at Tobias. Harris has n't making

1095
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 6: quick decisions, has him getting good shots and moving the ball,

1096
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 6: and Embiid, like we talked about, is an MVP candidate.

1097
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 6: The last piece the puzzle will be figuring out how

1098
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 6: to get the best from Ben Simmons. But Doc Revers

1099
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 6: has figured things out so far the first month of

1100
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 6: the season, so I have some confidence you'll get the

1101
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 6: best out of Ben Simmons as the season progresses.

1102
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: Lee, what do you think? This one's a tough one?

1103
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: I think because there's so many teams that feel like

1104
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: they're eight and six or seven and seven that you

1105
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: may be heading into the season you're like, ah, they

1106
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: might be like at this point in the year, like

1107
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: lucky to have four wins, right, So what do you

1108
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 2: think of Trey's less and then who you would have?

1109
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1110
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 5: I like that list.

1111
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: I like Jenkins because I think they really did so

1112
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 4: well when John Moran was out, and of course they

1113
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 4: haven't had Jaron Jackson junior.

1114
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 5: So I think that's really important.

1115
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 4: I think the Doc Rivers bump is like, Okay, he's

1116
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 4: got the sixers playing to that level. It's like, can

1117
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: you unlock this talent? Can you get them to work together?

1118
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 4: The offense has looked so much better than it has

1119
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 4: in years gone by, so I think he deserves credit

1120
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 4: for that. Then it comes down to, like, Frank Vogel

1121
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 4: didn't win it last year for the Lakers, But if

1122
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 4: the Lakers win, let's say they win sixty games this year,

1123
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 4: how can did he not be Coach of the Year,

1124
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: you know, because it's not like, well he got it

1125
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 4: last year, like coach Budenholz is not going to get

1126
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 4: it even if the Milwaukee Bucks win from here on out,

1127
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: He's just not going to get it. But I think

1128
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 4: someone like Frank vogue could just be like, well, let's

1129
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 4: just give it to him, you know, why not? I mean,

1130
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 4: he's got the Lakers playing really well, ty Lu's got

1131
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: the Clippers playing really well as well. And what does

1132
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: this award? Is this award about improvement over last season?

1133
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 4: A new coach in a new situation or is it

1134
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 4: just like, let's just give it to this guy like

1135
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: Nate Bjorkrin. You know the faces.

1136
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 5: They're surprising as well, and.

1137
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 4: They've lost their last couple. They were eight four, they

1138
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 4: got off to a good start. So so many coaches

1139
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 4: have a different storyline or a narrative that they could choose.

1140
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 4: I think ultimately, though, because Vogel didn't win it last year,

1141
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: his record could put him in the box seat to

1142
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 4: win it.

1143
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: I can't believe you didn't go with one of your

1144
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: two favorite teams in like a bigger staff with the

1145
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: Calves or TIBs with the next I mean there's a

1146
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: five hundred teams right now that not a lot of

1147
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: people expect it.

1148
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1149
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 4: I'll get to the Knicks when we talk about the

1150
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 4: games a little bit there later on. But yeah, look

1151
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 4: they've had an improvement and Bickerstaff has got the Cavs

1152
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 4: playing exciting basketball as well. Will even out his stein

1153
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 4: it though, that's the question.

1154
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: Task Coach of the Year take us home? Who do

1155
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: you have the top year leader board?

1156
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 3: Mm? You guys named all the coaches. I think if

1157
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: Nate Jorkrin didn't lose Miles Turner, his best defender. Last

1158
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 3: couple of games, everybody be singing a little bit of

1159
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 3: a different tune for Nate Jorkrin because he really has

1160
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 3: those guys playing. They they have impressed me a lot.

1161
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: And so yeah, you named them all though, and we've

1162
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 3: got a top ten coach of the year ballot. That's uh.

1163
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 3: I don't think we just like, say, Nate Yorkrin's name

1164
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 3: as well.

1165
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: It's a good name, great name, because if we're naming

1166
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 2: Doc Rivers in helping the Sixers, oh, you can maybe

1167
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: argue they were helped out with the personnel they brought

1168
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: in to add a little more shooting around them. So

1169
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: maybe Executive of the Year to Mary there. But whatever,

1170
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: what about Tyleru with Doc's old team, they're damn good too.

1171
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: And he's the new coach. There's the new voice. I

1172
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: think they're playing a little more fun. But no one

1173
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: wants to talk about the Clippers. Everyone's done talking about

1174
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: them more. We're waiting until the playoffs with them.

1175
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: But also pretty awesome last year in the regular season.

1176
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: I know they were, but you know so, I mean,

1177
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, the Sixer did disappoint they weren't. It's

1178
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: not like they were out of the playoffs, so they

1179
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: were still winning games. But I hear you that's fine,

1180
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: it's your list, dock at the top. Let's hear from

1181
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: you guys out there. That worked really well. I think

1182
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 2: going to our top three candids. So let's hear from

1183
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: you guys in the stream team and tweet at us

1184
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: at no dunk's inkor Okay, well, let's get through those

1185
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: games from last night. Only three on taskt has started.

1186
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: Lebron and the Lakers opened a long trip here by

1187
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: beating the Bucks one thirteen, one oh six.

1188
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 3: Big takeaway, Well, the Lakers can do whatever they want.

1189
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: That's the biggest takeaway. When it came down to the

1190
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 3: last few minutes, Lebron said, all right, I'm taking over now.

1191
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 3: A part of that is the Milwaukee Bucks. And we've

1192
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: talked about the Lakers already. Their defense is phenomenal. They

1193
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: know who the heck they are when it comes down

1194
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: to winning time. Everybody just hang around and watched Lebron

1195
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: do his thing. They're great. The Bucks, on the other hand,

1196
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: they're not causing fear and another team whatsoever. They keep

1197
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: winning games, they definitely do. But when it comes down

1198
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 3: to crunch time, when it comes down to playing really,

1199
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 3: really good teams. The other team on the other side

1200
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 3: thinks that they can win. I think that's that's just

1201
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 3: the way it works. They believe that if they find

1202
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 3: something that works, that Mike Bunenholzer isn't going to change

1203
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: enough in his scheme to adapt. And it keeps showing through.

1204
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: They just can't find a way to beat these great teams. Now,

1205
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: Chris Middleton has the ball more in his hands than

1206
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: Yannis does at the end of games, which is kind

1207
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: of like the playoff last year, which is probably the

1208
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: better recipe. But I think when it comes down to it,

1209
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: Drew Holliday needs to get it more. When it comes

1210
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: down to it, it's just guys who can make shots.

1211
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: And Giannis isn't a creator when it comes down to

1212
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: the last few minutes. He's got to play second man's

1213
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: or third man. And they've got to figure this out. Now,

1214
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: they've got to figure this out before they get to

1215
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: the postseason. They just need more bucket makers. And so yeah,

1216
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 3: they can just like in a game, they'll get down

1217
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: to the last few minutes, they'll beat the bad teams.

1218
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: Just like in the regular season. They're gonna win a

1219
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 3: lot of games, but when it comes down to the postseason,

1220
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: this was this was exactly what we saw with the

1221
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 3: Miami Heat last year. The Heat figured it out. Bucks

1222
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: couldn't adapt and Lebron just kept getting switches good night.

1223
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 3: I mean even Montrez Harrald in the post kept getting

1224
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 3: switches good night. It's just too easy. And then the

1225
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 3: offensive end doesn't worry too like like I mentioned, so

1226
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: just just scared, scared for the Buck's future. But the

1227
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 3: Lakers are obviously, yeah number one with the bullet they're awesome.

1228
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Lakers offense there for a good stretch down

1229
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 2: in the fourth there was like post up Trez, post

1230
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: up ad the double has to come. It's going to

1231
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: come because there's a smaller Bucks player on them, and

1232
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 2: then those guys are just gonna kick it to KCP

1233
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 2: in the corner or Caruso wide open in the corner

1234
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: right Trey. Like it felt like that happened like four

1235
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: or five times. And good on Vogel and Lebron and

1236
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: the Lakers for going back to back to back to back.

1237
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: Just keep running into the ground because, as Tass said,

1238
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: boonholes are slow to adapt or switch up the defense,

1239
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: like maybe try something else, you know, Like I think

1240
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: in that instance, I always think of someone like Nick

1241
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: Nurse might try something else there. Let's go zone or

1242
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: let's drop back in coverage and let's not switch so easily.

1243
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 2: But what did you think?

1244
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it was that halftime of this game,

1245
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 6: right that Shaq said the big man is back, and

1246
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 6: we were talking about, Wow, this is great, this is

1247
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 6: a I love seeing all these big bodies banging down.

1248
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 6: But yeah, you're right, And honestly, the Bucks should watch

1249
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 6: the tape of the Lakers and see how they're getting

1250
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 6: the ball into the post every time, because Jannis did

1251
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 6: have a nice post bucket there in the fourth quarter,

1252
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 6: hit like a little fade away sort of dink or

1253
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 6: dumper from probably nine or ten feet, And that's how

1254
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 6: he's got to get involved on the offensive end when

1255
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 6: it comes down to clutch time, because he doesn't strike

1256
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 6: fear in people's hearts with regards to having the ball

1257
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 6: on the perimeter when it's the fourth quarter. It seemed

1258
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 6: like the Lakers decided we're gonna try and take a

1259
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 6: charge on Giannis every single time he comes into the

1260
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 6: into the lane, and that seems to be the recipe

1261
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 6: for how you stop him, because if you're if you're

1262
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 6: just waiting for him, if you're building the wall there,

1263
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 6: you're either gonna get sent him to the free throw

1264
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 6: line where he has struggled, or you're gonna get the call,

1265
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 6: you're gonna the charge, and it's going back down the

1266
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 6: other way. There's got to be other ways to get

1267
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 6: Giannis involved. Offensively, he's a pretty solid passer. I don't

1268
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 6: He's not Lebron passing, as we all know that's his

1269
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 6: greatest strength. But you still got to be able to

1270
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 6: get him the ball in the post. Let him go

1271
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 6: to work, let him get some buckets because he's your MVP.

1272
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 6: And yeah, I agree that Middleton has been ball and

1273
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 6: he's been cooking. He's the best option for the Bucks.

1274
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 6: And also it would be nice to get Drew Holliday involved.

1275
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 6: But there's a reason that Yannis is the MVP. The

1276
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 6: guy can be automatic when he's in the post. Maybe

1277
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 6: he needs a little bit more booty to be able

1278
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 6: to displace people because he's still tall, He's got a

1279
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 6: high center of gravity, especially with those giant shoulders. I

1280
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 6: think that there is opportunities for Giannis to be an

1281
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 6: even better post player. But I don't know, it doesn't

1282
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 6: seem like that's going to be happening right now. The

1283
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 6: good thing for the Bucks is that, yeah, it's scary

1284
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 6: for the future with regards to this season. Maybe they

1285
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 6: don't win the title, but at least Yannas signed before

1286
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 6: the season, because if this was the case right now,

1287
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 6: if you just saw him lose to the Nets and

1288
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 6: Lakers and back to back in a back to back scenario,

1289
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 6: that would be really scary.

1290
00:55:59,480 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 3: Hours.

1291
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: That's a good point. Yeah, Lakers did a good job

1292
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: of keeping Unis off the free throw line last night,

1293
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: even though you want to put them there at times.

1294
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: Ley he only had four free throw attempts, hit two

1295
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: of them, and he had nine turnovers too, so you know,

1296
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 2: obviously you want to shore up that. But what did

1297
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: you think from this game?

1298
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would be very concerned about the Bucks because

1299
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 4: in those two big games, as you mentioned, they're trade

1300
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 4: Nets and Lakers. The Nets they won the game. It

1301
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 4: was a close game, of course, but I didn't feel

1302
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 4: this one last night was actually particularly close. I felt

1303
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 4: the Lakers were in complete control of this game because

1304
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 4: well sort of, it was incredible.

1305
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 2: It got to a two point game.

1306
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they made They did make a push there.

1307
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 4: But then the Lakers answer. And one guy who I

1308
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 4: have been critical of the past, who's having actually an

1309
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 4: incredible season for the Lakers is KCP. He is very

1310
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 4: very important for them offensively and defensively. The numbers right now,

1311
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 4: you know, eleven points a game, he's shooting fifty five

1312
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 4: percent from the field, fifty seven percent from three. Now,

1313
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 4: he doesn't do a tonails in terms of the actual stats,

1314
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 4: but I think defensively, they know they've got a guys

1315
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 4: like go and defend this guy. Put you on this guy,

1316
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 4: rotate around and if he's he knocks down that shot

1317
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: every time. He's really more comfortable in his role. He's grown,

1318
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 4: he's matured as a player and become a very sort

1319
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 4: of quietly important player for what they do. They can

1320
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 4: rely on him now and that's something they couldn't do

1321
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 4: in the past. So I think that's important. But I

1322
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 4: felt particularly in the second half, and again, you know,

1323
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 4: when we're talking about MVPs this morning, watching Lebron last night,

1324
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 4: I'm like that that is kind of how I still

1325
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 4: feel about Lebron. He's not scared at all of the Bucks,

1326
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 4: not at all. I don't think he's concerned that they

1327
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 4: could take him down in a seven game series, because

1328
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 4: as good as Yannis is, he still forces it a

1329
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: little bit too much on the offensive end, and teams

1330
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 4: like the Lakers will say, if you go inside, yeah

1331
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 4: that's a handful, You're a handful inside. But we'll live

1332
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 4: with your shooting the ball anytime you want. We'll just

1333
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 4: live with that right now. And the Lakers instead, they

1334
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 4: have guys who can hit those threes, and it just

1335
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 4: feels like the Lakers have that confidence that they're not

1336
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 4: intimidated by the Milwaukee Bucks so early in the season.

1337
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 4: Still time to improve, but a couple of warriorsome side.

1338
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 4: Hasn't been a great week here for the Bucks.

1339
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: No lak A shot nineteen to thirty seven from three

1340
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: coldwell Pope had seven of them. Lebron had six. Quick trivia,

1341
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: what's the career high for Lebron? Most three is made

1342
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 2: in the game? I my man, Leelis did eight a

1343
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 2: couple times in his career. Yeah, six is a lot

1344
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: for Lebron, like and it's it's uh, he's added it though.

1345
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: He is feeling comfortable with that three point shot right now.

1346
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 2: He is it's money right now. I will say to

1347
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: you if you were, if you were holding out hope

1348
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: that Giannis could go back to back to back for MVP,

1349
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: It's not a chance not held. There was no chance

1350
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: at the start of the season. Tried telling you about it.

1351
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: But if you were still holding out hope, I think

1352
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 2: last night it's gone. It's it's just this. I don't

1353
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: care what he does from here on now. There's no

1354
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 2: way he's doing it. He's still awesome. He's still awesome.

1355
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 4: When Lebron gets that little struck going at that sort

1356
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 4: of top left hand side, that left wing where he

1357
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 4: sort of rubs his shirt, and it's like, oh, yeah,

1358
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 4: I am just gonna I might step back into three,

1359
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 4: I might drive inside, but it doesn't really matter what

1360
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 4: you guys do. I'm just gonna do something here that's disrespectful.

1361
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 4: That's like Lebron, you know, twirling the ball again.

1362
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, as a fans, we're well aware

1363
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: of Lebron, Yeah, wiping his body or spinning the ball

1364
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: or yeah, looking like this, he's going to be easy. Yeah, okay,

1365
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: next game here. Donovan Mitchell helps the Jazz beat the

1366
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: Pelicans for a seventh straight win. Trey Big Tickaway.

1367
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 6: Well, as predicted, the Jazz, we're going to go on

1368
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 6: a huge winning streak and we're gonna start talking about him,

1369
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 6: Like you said, Skeet's seven straight right now, thanks the

1370
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 6: huge games from Donovan Mitchell and Mike Conley. Mitchell, that

1371
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 6: guy was magnificent last night. He's got every shot, he's

1372
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 6: got every pass, and at his best, he finds the

1373
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 6: balance between the two of them and he's in control.

1374
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 6: And that's what it's been for a lot of this season.

1375
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 6: He's still an explosive score, but I feel like he's

1376
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 6: just his decision making in his control of the game

1377
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 6: has gotten a lot better. Mike Conley is giving the

1378
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 6: Jazz exactly what people expected last season. He's another playmaker,

1379
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 6: he's another scorer, and the team is taking a ton

1380
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 6: of threes. With Bogdanovian back. Clearly there's an emphasis on

1381
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 6: getting more attempts up there. Taking forty one a game

1382
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 6: this year thirty five a game last year. Maybe you

1383
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 6: put Quinn Snyder in the Coach of the Year. Yeah, conversation,

1384
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 6: just for that little change, they're saying, Hey, we can

1385
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 6: shoot some jumpers. Let's make them three point jumpers. They're

1386
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 6: going in right now. They've been one of the best

1387
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 6: three point shooting teams in the league, and that opened

1388
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 6: things up for Rudy Gobert to just dunk inside whenever

1389
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 6: he needs to. Mitchell was awesome, but afterwards it was

1390
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 6: all about what people were saying about Donovan Mitchell as

1391
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 6: tests went into on what you need to know earlier today,

1392
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 6: just a completely unnecessary conversation. The man had twenty one

1393
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 6: points in the first half and we're trying to decide

1394
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 6: if he's going to be a top five player for

1395
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 6: the rest of his career. Why literally why?

1396
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: I think we'll We'll get to that probably and worse

1397
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: of the week coming up here, Yah shack, it's the

1398
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 2: post game with Donovan Mitchell. Crazy a good win from

1399
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: the Jazz. Mike Conley, you're a defensive Player of the

1400
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: Year candidate league after the game said, our ability to

1401
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: turn up our energy level a couple of notches, especially defensively,

1402
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 2: is making the difference. Because they did turn it up

1403
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 2: in this game, and they have a couple times here

1404
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: where they just like it's like suddenly just like you

1405
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: can't score on them, and that helps out those huge runs.

1406
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 4: So you know, the Pelly's putting out forty three in

1407
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 4: that first Yeah, that's I mean, the Jazz almost wouldn't

1408
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 4: give up that many more for the rest of the game,

1409
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 4: you know, I mean when I really locked down. I mean,

1410
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 4: the Repelicans have some offensive weapons, but their defense right

1411
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 4: now is need some.

1412
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: Work task, anything to add to this one.

1413
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 3: The Pelicans got a lot of things to work on. Yeah,

1414
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 3: they came back with a forty three point first quarter

1415
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: because they played a baseball doubleheader. That happens game two.

1416
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 3: It's just like a series. In a playoff series, Game two,

1417
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 3: a team comes back, but man, Eric Blitzo and Lonzo

1418
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 3: Ball stopped going to the rim after the first quarter,

1419
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 3: and they've got some serious shooting problems. The Jazz know

1420
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 3: who they are. The Pellies are still learning. So it's

1421
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 3: tough in the Western Conference. Man, it's just tough. You

1422
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 3: got a great Zion Williamson, but you need some guard.

1423
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 2: Play final game from last night, RJ. Barrett scores twenty

1424
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 2: eight as the Knicks beat the Warriors for their third

1425
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: straight victory. Knicks are five hundred lately, eight and eight

1426
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: here sixteen games in Again, RJ. Barrett's been cooking over

1427
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 2: his last five He's averaging like twenty two points per game,

1428
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: shooting really really well, what's your big take away from

1429
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 2: this one?

1430
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 4: So the Knicks r eight and eight. They've won three

1431
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 4: in a row, they lost five in a row, and

1432
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 4: now they've won three again. So they're a little bit

1433
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 4: up and down, but their defense has improved clearly. Right now,

1434
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 4: will that be the way the entire season? I'm not

1435
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 4: so sure, but very very good so far. Two big

1436
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 4: talking points though, really for this one. The first one,

1437
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 4: Obi Toppin had two dunks, and the comparisons to how

1438
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 4: he looks to a Muri Startama are just incredible. The

1439
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 4: way that he goes up there dunks and then he

1440
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 4: just the way he runs down he wears that number one.

1441
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 4: It's like he does look like baby Amari out there.

1442
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 4: But of course, the big talking point really is the

1443
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 4: ejection of Draymond Green in the second quarter there for

1444
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 4: yelling at his teammate James Wiseman, and the referee thought

1445
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 4: he was yelling at him, hit him with his second

1446
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 4: tea and he got ejected. Now the Warriors, obviously we're

1447
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 4: not happy with that.

1448
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 5: Steve Kerr tried.

1449
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 4: To challenge the ejection, but then Steve Kerr said after

1450
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 4: the game that the ref said, okay, that was a mistake. Yeah,

1451
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that. This is something I think the

1452
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 4: NBA needs to look at, like when a guy gets

1453
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 4: ejected and he's obviously out for the rest of the game.

1454
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 4: But if then they admit at halftime they made the

1455
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 4: mistake with a minute to go in that second half,

1456
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 4: in the second quarter, why not say, okay, we rescind it,

1457
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 4: we bring it back into the game. I mean, now,

1458
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 4: Steve Kerr didn't use this as an excuse. He said

1459
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 4: we were playing badly anyway. We lost that game. We

1460
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 4: deserve to lose. He didn't say we lost because of

1461
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 4: the ejection or point at the rest. But it's so

1462
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 4: disappointing to me that the rest can make such a

1463
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,959
Speaker 4: mistake that can have such an impact on a game

1464
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 4: and not be able to correct it even when they

1465
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 4: acknowledge it, with still time to be able to correct

1466
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 4: that mistake, because we you know, with coaches challenges and

1467
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 4: in the last two minutes, you can challenge things and

1468
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 4: you can get the call right. Well, this would have

1469
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 4: only cost him just over a minute. Why not just

1470
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 4: put your hand up and say okay, yeah, we got

1471
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 4: that wrong. Sorry, it was a young referee too, so

1472
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 4: that's just a bit of a concern. Again, the Warriors

1473
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 4: aren't using this as an excuse for losing the game,

1474
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 4: but I think there's a way to get this call

1475
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 4: right and to sort of acknowledge that the referees made

1476
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 4: a wrong, costly decision.

1477
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 3: But it was fun to watch, especially in an empty

1478
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 3: arena where you can always hear Draymond Green talk, but

1479
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 3: in an empty arena, it was bouncing off the walls

1480
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 3: like many people in their zoom rooms right now. It

1481
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 3: was just it was echoing, like I turned up the

1482
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 3: volume to make sure I heard what I heard, Like

1483
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 3: he's he yelled at James Wiseman is pissed that Wiseman

1484
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 3: didn't seal off his defender and he turned the ball

1485
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 3: over and it looked like, yeah, he was yelling in

1486
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: the direction of Wiseman, but the ref was right there.

1487
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 3: That was weird. It was. It was It was so

1488
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: so strange, like the referee must have known, like Steph,

1489
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 3: like they.

1490
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone was like, he wasn't yelling at you, like everybody,

1491
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 2: Here's what I think what you're saying is a little

1492
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: extremely Like they admitted the mistake at halftime. The better

1493
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: like way to handle that, I think would have been

1494
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 2: for the referees just to come together there and sort

1495
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: of talk it out and go, Yeah, Draymond Green never

1496
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: shuts up. He's always yelling at people. I don't think

1497
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: he you know, was he yelling at you?

1498
01:04:58,880 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 3: You know?

1499
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 2: I think it was John Butler, I think was the

1500
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: official that actually tossed him, a second year official like,

1501
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 2: and he maybe would have been like a maybe he wasn't,

1502
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: you know, Like, I think they just should have maybe

1503
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 2: talked it over a little bit more and said, Okay,

1504
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 2: that was a mistake, you're good, let's just play ball here.

1505
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 2: In my opinion, But you know, at the same time,

1506
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 2: if Draymond doesn't pick up his first technical for just

1507
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: you know, arguing with the officials too long, that was

1508
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 2: what the first one was for, right, It wasn't because

1509
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: he was yelling at someone else on the floor, on

1510
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 2: one of his teammates. You know, Well, that's sort of

1511
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: the game you're playing here. With the way you go

1512
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: about it, you might accidentally get one and then you've

1513
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: really hurt your team. So I think they should have

1514
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 2: just got together though, and really with reasoning, said Okay, Yeah,

1515
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 2: he wasn't yelling at me. He's yelling at James Wiseman,

1516
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: who he's always yelling at.

1517
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1518
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 5: I mean we see it though as well. They almost never.

1519
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 4: I don't think rescind a technical fail even when sometimes

1520
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 4: you've seen a bad goal, a player will say, hey,

1521
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 4: that's a bad call, the repay, the replay will clearly

1522
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 4: show a bad coal and the referee will still give

1523
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 4: you a technical foul for that, and it's like, well

1524
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 4: that should be rescinded to in that case as well.

1525
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can I give you a technical foul though

1526
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: if you just like use vulgar language, even if it's

1527
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: not directed at me, can that be considered unspontsedly?

1528
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 4: I mean, you see, Kelly you break getting a technical

1529
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 4: foul for blowing a kiss to his opponent.

1530
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 2: So I would want it, Yeah, I would see Yeah,

1531
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: if you really want to. You think that's on sports alike?

1532
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 4: Sure, but it's one thing, you know, Jeff van Gundy

1533
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 4: complains a lot about everything, but that's one thing he's

1534
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 4: right on, is like you you compound the mistake if

1535
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 4: you give a guy a technical foul for when you

1536
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 4: made a bad or wrong call that was clearly wrong.

1537
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 4: I think that's something the NBA should be able to

1538
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 4: at least say, Okay, yeah, we made the mistake. The

1539
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 4: referees made the mistake. It's okay to admit that rather than,

1540
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 4: like I said, in this case last night, the referees

1541
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 4: got it wrong and it cost Draymon half a game.

1542
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 4: So I think you can I think there is middle

1543
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 4: ground here where you can fix a problem like that.

1544
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 3: Also, the next are good. Yeah, just throw that in there.

1545
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: I think a Draymond Green plays in this game, the

1546
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: next still might win this one.

1547
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 4: We probably do. And again that's Steve Kerr didn't say

1548
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 4: we lost because of that. So with no one's no

1549
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 4: one's giving disrespect to the Knicks. They played a great game,

1550
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 4: but you know a guy got sent out for half

1551
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 4: the game and the second best player on the team

1552
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 4: over the wrong call.

1553
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah, anything to add here, uh, Trey, I

1554
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 2: hate referees, Yeah, Raymond, get him out of here.

1555
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 6: But there are guys who get reputation technicals. And that's

1556
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 6: exactly what this was. Was Draymond. He was yelling like

1557
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 6: task was breaking down on what you need to know.

1558
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 6: Was he yelling at Tom Thibodeau? It did look like

1559
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 6: maybe they were gonna throw down. But yeah, I mean

1560
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 6: we've seen it happen with Boogie before. Even when Draymond

1561
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 6: was suspended for a game after the Steven Adams nutkick,

1562
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 6: the only reason he actually was suspended was because he

1563
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 6: picked up that crazy technical or flagrant with Michael Beasley

1564
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 6: in the first round against the Rockets. Remember, like he

1565
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 6: threw him at the end of the game for literally

1566
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 6: no reason. It just comes back to haunt you eventually.

1567
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 6: But relax, James Butler, I don't like knowen referee Jons.

1568
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 6: I didn't even John Butler. Oh James Butler is Jimmy

1569
01:07:55,960 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 6: Butler's brother. Yeah, but John Butler get out of here, man,

1570
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 6: Just chill out out. You're right, Skeates, have a little conversation.

1571
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 6: Talk to the Hey, were you yelling at me? No,

1572
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 6: I was yelling at James. Fine, carry on, Yeah.

1573
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: Because like Tat said, like everybody on the floor, like immediately,

1574
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: like he wasn't yelling at you, like Steph Curry, the

1575
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: voice of reason. I mean, I know it's his teammate,

1576
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: he's gonna want to keephim out there, but even in Steph,

1577
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 2: it's like I feel like he's a trustworthy guy. I

1578
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 2: think if Steph had seen Draymond actually yell. I got

1579
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: John Butler, He's like, you idiot, what are you doing? Like,

1580
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: just shut up, you already got one tech but he

1581
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 2: was like, no, he wasn't yelling at you. He's yelling

1582
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 2: at the rookie man. This is what he does. I

1583
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 2: do have a trivia question off of this, the real

1584
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: quick one. Green's eleventh career ejection. Okay, guys, for the

1585
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: third most in the NBA since he made his debut

1586
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve. Can you name the two guys who

1587
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: have more ejections since twenty twelve during that span Boogie

1588
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 2: Boogie Cousins. Yeah, Trey already threw him in there before

1589
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: I even asked the question. It was fantastic. He's number

1590
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: one with thirteen and this guy's got twelve.

1591
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,600
Speaker 4: You can get dwy Dwight Howard No, no, no, no,

1592
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 4: Westbrook Nope.

1593
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 6: I know he's always high on technicals.

1594
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, technically is an ejection? Pat Beverly Nope, Nope. He's

1595
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 2: a bigger guy. You know, he's like a power forward guy,

1596
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,799
Speaker 2: small forward, power forward, and well there's I mean, maybe

1597
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to give it away too much. Well,

1598
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: let's just say there's basically two of them.

1599
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 3: Oh Mars Mars Mars, Marris.

1600
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: Yea or Kith Morris. So twelve cousins with thirteen and

1601
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 2: that was Green's eleventh career rejection. I'm not sure if

1602
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 2: that counts the playoffs though, so who knows. All right,

1603
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: final piece of news here, just quick. Calves have agreed

1604
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 2: to trade Kevin Porter Junior to the Houston Rockets for

1605
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 2: a heavily protected future second round pick. I mean heavily protected.

1606
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: It's like top fifty five protected, meaning that it probably

1607
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 2: will never even convey. So it was sort of for nothing,

1608
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,600
Speaker 2: but that's fine. We knew the Caves were moving on

1609
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 2: from him, they were gonna wave them or trade them,

1610
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: and they got maybe something, you know, a pick in

1611
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 2: the second round at the end, possibly, But this is good.

1612
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: I like the team that Kevin Porter Junior is going

1613
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: to here. I know others have pointed this out. The

1614
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 2: Rockets intend to have assistant coach John Lucas work closely

1615
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 2: with this kid, and that's good because Lucas has helped

1616
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: several NBA some NFL players to overcome personal issues to

1617
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: have successful careers. You know, he did so himself, John Lucas,

1618
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 2: so he you know, speaks from my experience here. So

1619
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 2: I like that that makes sense, and like, why wouldn't

1620
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: you do this if you're the Rockets. I think this

1621
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: is like fantastic for them potentially if Kevin Porter Junior

1622
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,879
Speaker 2: can get everything else, not really even the basketball skills

1623
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: in check. I don't know if there's anything to add

1624
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,560
Speaker 2: Lelee or not in your head. I feel like you

1625
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: feel the same way. Yes, okay, let's get to worst

1626
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 2: of the week, ladies.

1627
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 3: And gentlemen, the worst of the week, all right. I

1628
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 3: asked the people out there, what do you got for me?

1629
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 3: Some great answers this week? For worse of the Week.

1630
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 3: I'll fire through some of the answers that people gave

1631
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 3: to me. Nook No further wrote Kyrie's showing up to

1632
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 3: play against the Kas and getting roasted by a gentleman

1633
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 3: with the last name of Sex wearing his old Calves number. Well,

1634
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 3: Kyrie did have a pretty good game himself. He had

1635
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 3: thirty seven in that game. But I take your point.

1636
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 3: Thank you for your contribution. The life of Kate w

1637
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 3: Writ's task for calling the YouTube fans here stream team

1638
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 3: rather than team stream Oh no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry

1639
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 3: I called him team Stream rather see I always mix

1640
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 3: that up. I always mix that. Okay, yeah it's the

1641
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 3: Stream team, but I always I always can. It's just

1642
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 3: that's just how my brain works. Meg Z rights Lee

1643
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 3: Ellis's chest hair. Yeah we showed this photo. Yeah, come on, yeah,

1644
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 3: you know there it is. Wow. What a zoom in, JD.

1645
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 3: What a zoom in to Lee's chester. That's a photo

1646
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 3: of him. Check our social media pages if you haven't

1647
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 3: seen him attending the US Open in two thousand and one.

1648
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 3: And the linen was that Italy two?

1649
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 5: I think it was two thousand and two.

1650
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 3: Wow, you had trim on that linen shirt too. It's

1651
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 3: not just like a flowing shirt. It looks like, yeah,

1652
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 3: there's a detail on that thing.

1653
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 5: Wow, it was a very comfortable.

1654
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 4: Shit, I will say that.

1655
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 2: Barely relaxed.

1656
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 3: John Ford ninety nine chimed in with a basketball one. Again,

1657
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 3: it's the Timberwolves. That's a fair point. Walker Davidson chimed

1658
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 3: in five game losing streak. The Kangs are back, baby,

1659
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 3: This one was a great one. Romantic to the reporter

1660
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 3: who called Steph Wardell, you know there's a reporter who said,

1661
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 3: excuse me, Wardell, what do you think about that? In

1662
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 3: the end, Steph looks up. If you haven't seen the clip,

1663
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll get into whoopsies next week. Check out

1664
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 3: our YouTube channel, because you know it's timeless. I don't

1665
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 3: even know when it happened, but YouTube videos you can

1666
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 3: PLoP in a video from whenever who cares. A referee

1667
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 3: called him Mordell. He wasn't angry or anything. He was

1668
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 3: just a little bit shocked. This gentleman here only here

1669
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 3: for move One writes Lee's claim that Facundo Compozo's pass

1670
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 3: the pooper pass, was the best play of the season. Now,

1671
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 3: did I miss it or was this called the pooper pass?

1672
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 3: Because I think he called it. That's a great that's

1673
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 3: a great name. That's why. That's the only reason I

1674
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 3: included it. Because the pooper pass. He dropped it through

1675
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 3: his own legs. It's a very good name for a pass.

1676
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 3: Anybody who drops a pass between his own legs, pooper pass,

1677
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 3: that's great stuff. Mohammed Hassan writes the heat announcer Eric Reed,

1678
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 3: calling Weggie a doink. Yeah. I didn't get to chime

1679
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 3: in with you guys on this one, and this is

1680
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 3: really near and dear to my soul. I'm not so

1681
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 3: mad at Eric Reed like you guys are. He's an

1682
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 3: old head. We've watched basketball for a long time. A

1683
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 3: lot of old heads called some weird names. Eric Reed

1684
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 3: called it a doink. There was a Jim Sparnacle called

1685
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 3: it a Spinarkle called it what do you call it?

1686
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 3: Neck ball? And Ralph Ralph Lawler, Clippers, longtime Clippers man,

1687
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 3: he called it weggie. Now Eric Reed just doesn't know

1688
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 3: that Ralph Lawler's weggie call has been popularized and now

1689
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,440
Speaker 3: you don't call it anything but weggie.

1690
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 5: But Eric Read's an old head.

1691
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 6: You know.

1692
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 3: He likes numbers like Lee Ellis. He likes saying Hassan

1693
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 3: Whiteside just came down with his thirteenth rebound that season.

1694
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 3: This gives him forty thousand rebounds. You know he sees

1695
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 3: just an old head. That's okay. I'm okay with it, guys.

1696
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 3: I know you're angry. I'm not okay.

1697
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 2: He should know, first off, is a weggie, and then

1698
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 2: on top of that, the doink makes no sense. As

1699
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 2: Trey pointed out, a doink does not stick anoint. That's

1700
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 2: you're you're spot on with that TK.

1701
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 3: But that's fine.

1702
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: That's fine. I believe though the next weggie called by

1703
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 2: Eric Reed will be called a weggie. I have faith,

1704
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: I do.

1705
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 3: Okay, So some some really good nominees. The Timberwolves a

1706
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 3: great one. They're they're falling apart, especially with Karl Anthony

1707
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 3: Towns contracting the virus. I hope he gets well, Eric Reed, sure,

1708
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 3: Leelis's hair. Sure, but we got a late nominee here.

1709
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 3: Thursday night, we briefly mentioned it. Shaquille O'Neill and Donovan

1710
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 3: Mitchell had a conversation, if that's what you want to

1711
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 3: call it, after Donovan Mitchell's great game. Let's have a listen.

1712
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 7: Part of this is shaq I said tonight that you

1713
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 7: are one of my favorite players, but you don't have

1714
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 7: what it takes to get to the next level.

1715
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: I set it on purpose.

1716
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 2: I want you to hear it.

1717
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 3: What do you have to say about that?

1718
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: That's it, that's it, that's it.

1719
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 7: Okay, cool, I want you to hear it.

1720
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 3: I've been here.

1721
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: I've been hearing that since my rookie year.

1722
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 3: You know, I'm just gonna get better than would I do?

1723
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 2: Good?

1724
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I wanted you to hearing you say

1725
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: another garing brother, keep.

1726
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 3: It up, appreciated. Now everyone was angry. We'll get your

1727
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 3: opinion in a set. Guys. Everybody on Twitter was extremely angry.

1728
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 3: Shaquille O'Neil should not be saying that to Donovan Mitchell.

1729
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 3: But if you listen, Donvan Mitchell is actually listening intently

1730
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 3: because he respects Shaquille O'Neil. He's saying, Okay, thank you, Yes,

1731
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I mean, he's he's like, I've heard

1732
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 3: that crap before, I don't need to hear it again.

1733
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 3: I think where this comes from, where the problem comes from,

1734
01:15:55,760 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 3: is the bigger issue of NBA analysts not supporting and

1735
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,759
Speaker 3: loving the game and just sort of being angry about

1736
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 3: having to watch basketball and all that. Because if Shaq

1737
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 3: calls somebody out and you trust his opinion and he

1738
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 3: gives a crap about his job every day, then this

1739
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 3: is just his method of trying to inspire to motivate

1740
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 3: a player. That's he's a tough he's I think this

1741
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 3: is his dad method, this is his come on kid,

1742
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 3: this is his tough love method. But when it's combined

1743
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 3: with the fact that you know he's not into the

1744
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 3: job at all times. He just kind of, you know

1745
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 3: it doesn't watch the game at all times, and it's

1746
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 3: sort of just it's a it's a trait characteristic of

1747
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 3: many NBA broadcasts right now, and and just throughout every

1748
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 3: sort of legend, and not every legend, but a lot

1749
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 3: of the legend. It's just a common thing right now

1750
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 3: that some guys are just angry. It's already come up

1751
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 3: on this broadcast, you know, Jeff Van Gundy, like, people

1752
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 3: just aren't all that, you know, supportive and chummy about

1753
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 3: the game. So those two things combined got people really angry.

1754
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 3: But I think if Shaq was, you know, do that

1755
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 3: other part of his job really well, I think this

1756
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 3: would have been taken a little bit differently. That's all

1757
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 3: I got to say about that.

1758
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 2: It was awkward as hell. Yeah, Wait, what did Shack

1759
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: want him to say back? Is what I want to know, Like,

1760
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 2: what would have like been a good response.

1761
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 3: Well, he said that's what I wanted to hear. Yeah,

1762
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 3: he said, go work on your game, kid, and he said,

1763
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 3: I on my game.

1764
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. I mean, he's Donovan Mitchell. Kudos to

1765
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 2: him for being a professional. He should have said cough, like,

1766
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: and I know he doesn't. I'm sure you respect Shack

1767
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 2: because he's an al timer, but like, cough, I what

1768
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 2: a weird thing to say. I trashed you on national

1769
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 2: TV at the half, then I'm going to trash you

1770
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 2: basically to your face just by having a great game

1771
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: in a win, because I want to inspire you to

1772
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 2: be better.

1773
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just worded it. He worded it ron He

1774
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 3: was saying, hey, you're a good player. He said, you're

1775
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 3: a really good player. I want you to be better.

1776
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 3: He should have said it that way, right, Yeah, Kenny's.

1777
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 6: It over right after Kenny was explained what Shaq was

1778
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 6: trying to get at it. Kenny explained it in a

1779
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 6: way that was constructive and supportive, rather than Shaq, who,

1780
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 6: as Task called it, was curmudgeoning out there. And that's

1781
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 6: exactly what it is. He at the half. Donovan Mitchell

1782
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 6: is having has a twenty one point game. He has

1783
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 6: a twenty one point game. He's in the midst of

1784
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 6: his best season. The Jazz are on a winning streak.

1785
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 6: It's not dissimilar to when Draymond Green in the midst

1786
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 6: of the best Suns basketball we've seen, and said we

1787
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 6: got to get Devin Booker out of there. We got

1788
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 6: to get him away from Phoenix. It's like, no, there

1789
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 6: are ways that you can be constructive. There are ways

1790
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 6: that you can help people besides just hating on him.

1791
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 6: Get that pure positivity training shack is what I'm saying.

1792
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 6: But honestly, think about the way Kobe Bryant was doing

1793
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 6: things before he passed away about a year ago. He

1794
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 6: was challenging players. He was saying, here's how you can

1795
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 6: become the best version of yourself. Here's how you can

1796
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 6: become an MVP. He's doing it for people outside of

1797
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 6: the basketball world as well. He's building them up and saying,

1798
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 6: here's where you can approve. Not saying you just had

1799
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 6: twenty one points during in the midst of your best season,

1800
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 6: But are you're going to be a top five player

1801
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 6: that wins championships? That doesn't even make sense, Like us

1802
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 6: listening to half of a podcast and being like, this

1803
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 6: podcast isn't as good as our podcast. Sorry, not listen

1804
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 6: to it anymore. Might as well deleted off iTunes. It's ridiculous.

1805
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 2: It's just weird all around. Leally, what did you think

1806
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 2: of this exchange?

1807
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 5: Well?

1808
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 4: I wonder though, if there's a little bit of a

1809
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 4: drama there between Shack and the Utah Jazz because him

1810
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 4: and Rudy Gobert have kind of been getting into it

1811
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 4: a little bit lately. Shack basically trashed Rudy Gobert for

1812
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 4: getting two hundred million for not having an offensive game

1813
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 4: a few weeks ago. So I wonder if there's just

1814
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 4: a little bit of tension there. And Shaq's just basically saying,

1815
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 4: because he had a history as well playing against the Jazz,

1816
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 4: that he's just kind of like, screw you, Jazz. I

1817
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 4: don't care if you're winning. I'm just going to still

1818
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 4: disrespect you. And again, you know, he looks at maybe

1819
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 4: what happened to the playoff last year, and that's why

1820
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 4: he's sort of in that position where he can say,

1821
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 4: I don't think you guys can step up, because they

1822
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 4: did flame out. They lost in seven games there to

1823
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 4: the Nuggets after leading three ones. So I wonder if

1824
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 4: it's just that, you know, just Shack just like I

1825
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 4: don't respect the Jazz and and Rudy Gobert, I don't

1826
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 4: respect him, and so I'm not giving anyone on the

1827
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 4: Jazz credit.

1828
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: That Isn't that still a problem like that it's like

1829
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 2: a major analyst, the guy that is supposed to be

1830
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 2: like promote the game and building up is after that

1831
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 2: like didn't know really, you know, we gave him a

1832
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 2: pass with like not really knowing who Christian Wood was,

1833
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 2: and then like you said, like doubling down possibly on

1834
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 2: his heat for the Jazz, Like that's not a good look, right, No,

1835
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: I get it. It's Shack. We always go, man, it's Shack.

1836
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 2: He can do whatever he wants. Ha ha. But at

1837
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: a certain point it becomes a little tiresome.

1838
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the after the game stuff. After the

1839
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 4: Jazz have an impressive win, when they're having a hot

1840
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 4: streak and a young star of the league, you don't

1841
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 4: want to basically just say you're not that good though,

1842
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 4: and I don't think you guys can win. It took

1843
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 4: Shack a long time to win in this league. Let's

1844
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 4: not forget that as well. Remember he came in as

1845
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 4: the number one pick, he was the star, he was

1846
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 4: hyped up, and it took him until he got to

1847
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,719
Speaker 4: Los Angeles in his what eighth season or ninth season

1848
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 4: before he won, and he lost a few times in

1849
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 4: the playoffs as well. I remember the Jazz beat them

1850
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 4: in ninety nine, ninety eight, ninety eight, ninety nine, and

1851
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 4: so Shaq had some questions to answer in his career

1852
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 4: early on. It didn't go as smoothly as he would

1853
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 4: have liked.

1854
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 2: So did Doug Collins inspire him on a broadcast something

1855
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: Shack should realize as well that like it takes Michael Jordan,

1856
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 2: I mean, he went through some struggles as well before

1857
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 2: he won.

1858
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 4: So most players, you know, do have to figure it out.

1859
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 4: It takes a long time. And the Jazz and one

1860
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 4: of those teams, they're in the mix. At their best,

1861
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 4: they're a good team, but they do have some issues

1862
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 4: as well, and they have flamed out in the playoffs

1863
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 4: a couple of times.

1864
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,799
Speaker 5: But it's not a good look.

1865
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 4: When Shaq just basically on on C and T just

1866
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 4: just kind of dismisses and ships on the team that

1867
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 4: just had an impressive win.

1868
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they gotta love basketball a little bit more. I

1869
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 3: think that's what it comes down to to enjoy watching it.

1870
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 3: And I guess I think it's a double edged sword

1871
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 3: because you've got superstars, Hall of famers, legends that are

1872
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 3: on that desk. So Donovan Mitchell was listening intently. He

1873
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 3: wanted to listen to what Shaq said. But being a superstar,

1874
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 3: quite often you didn't have to. You know, it's not

1875
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 3: that you didn't have to work, but you you just

1876
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 3: don't have to grind the same way you're not going

1877
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 3: to grind at your job. You're not gonna watch, you know,

1878
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 3: hours of footage. You're not gonna watch the games. And

1879
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 3: that's just what's the double edged sword. They get the

1880
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 3: great part of it. Like Chris Webber talking to Anthony

1881
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 3: Davis at the end of the Lakers game, asked him

1882
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 3: a question. Anthony Davis talked for five minutes straight because

1883
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 3: it was Chris Weber on the other end, that was

1884
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 3: obviously a huge positive shack if he just showed a

1885
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 3: little bit of Hey man, you know I watched you tonight.

1886
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 3: You were actually on a broadcast. I didn't have to

1887
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 3: do any research. You're right here. You were good. That's

1888
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 3: all I have to say.

1889
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: There was no question he didn't ask him a question.

1890
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 2: He literally said, I was talking crap about you at halftime,

1891
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna sort of tilt talk crap to you

1892
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 2: to you to your face because I'm you know, I'm

1893
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: not hiding from it by any means, and what do

1894
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 2: you think about that? Like that was the question, like

1895
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 2: what do you think about me crapping on you? Like

1896
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 2: what are you supposed to say on live television after

1897
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: again a good performance? It's like to a Hall of famer,

1898
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 2: Like I think he wanted to say something else and

1899
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: and maybe caught himself and probably wisely so. But it's

1900
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 2: just strange, man, It's just like what you're I'm with

1901
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 2: you task like a little more joy, a little more positive,

1902
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: you know, applauding this effort from him and the team,

1903
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 2: and an entertaining game would go a long way for sure.

1904
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 2: Then this, like the the it was a game's not

1905
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 2: the same. I don't like watching whatever it is.

1906
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 3: And I guess part of the attitude is like Lee

1907
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 3: was saying, everybody in the NBA can't win, and you know,

1908
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 3: Charles's on that desk. He didn't win. It takes a

1909
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 3: long time to win. But Shack has this, you know,

1910
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 3: he's got this personality that he's still competing with you.

1911
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 3: I'm still better than you. He's always going to compete

1912
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 3: with you. I'm always going to kick your ass, even

1913
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 3: though you know this is Donovan Mitchell trying to win

1914
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one. Here he's not playing against you,

1915
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 3: so I think that's partly it too. Right, It's like

1916
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 3: the guy's trying to be that champion and he's freaking

1917
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,799
Speaker 3: he's freaking playing so good. In year four, he's expanded

1918
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 3: his game. Shooting nine three is a game to try

1919
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 3: and get better. He's not a finished product. He's fun.

1920
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 3: I like watching him.

1921
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 2: Weird, weird moment, but I think that's a good worst

1922
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,839
Speaker 2: of the week right there. Okay, let's get to tweet

1923
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 2: of the.

1924
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 3: Night, Tweet out the night. Wow, we are going away

1925
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 3: from basketball for a moment, Yes, and this isn't getting political,

1926
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 3: although the topic is involving politics. Don't leave yet because

1927
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 3: this tweet from Kristen Anderson Lopez. Oh, we got me

1928
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 3: reeling when Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris and Jill Biden were

1929
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 3: photographed together wearing their long purple coats or Kamala Harris

1930
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 3: wearing a long purple coat, Jill Biden wearing a long

1931
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 3: blue coat and somebody's plit screen that Kristin Anderson did

1932
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 3: with Frozens Anna and Elsa also wearing a long purple

1933
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 3: coat and a long blue coat and then photoshopping Frozen

1934
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 3: behind them. I mean, it's it's uncanny.

1935
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 2: Pretty good, similar colors there. It's a good luck though

1936
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 2: it worked for them in the movie.

1937
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 4: It was also a Lisa Simpson Kamala Harris comparison. That

1938
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 4: was my dad there. She was dressed exactly the same

1939
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 4: when Lisa was Lisa became in an advanced episode or

1940
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 4: Ford episode where she was the.

1941
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,560
Speaker 5: President of the Yeah.

1942
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she was dressed exactly like Kamala was on

1943
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 4: the inauguration day.

1944
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 5: The right stuff.

1945
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,480
Speaker 2: The tweet just made you chuckle, did it?

1946
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah. I haven't seen Lee's tweet yet, No, I know,

1947
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 3: but that's going to make me chuckle when I see it.

1948
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 3: Kamma not wearing purple gloves with her purple jacket, although

1949
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 3: Jill is wearing Joe Biden is wearing blue gloves with

1950
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 3: her blue jacket, so I don't know if that's a

1951
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 3: fashion full paw.

1952
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 2: But in Frozen they wear gloves too, right, because that's

1953
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 2: where their power is coming from.

1954
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, the other one.

1955
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 2: Doesn't no, right, Wow, that sucks. It's got no powers.

1956
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, but she's you can argue she's the te hero

1957
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 6: of the shelf of It at least of the first movie.

1958
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 2: I didn't know she had zero powers though I thought

1959
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 2: it was ran in the family.

1960
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 6: Her power is love.

1961
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: That's a good power.

1962
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 3: Great power she is there.

1963
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 2: Is Yeah, it's because the pearls there really take the

1964
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 2: next level excellent. Good.

1965
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 3: I don't think those are pearls on Kablo. Yeah, I

1966
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 3: hear what you're saying. Hey, come on, Skeets, you know

1967
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 3: that Anna doesn't have powers. I saw you saw Frozen Junior.

1968
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:31,799
Speaker 3: You saw a live I played with Frozen Jr.

1969
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah that was Why did I go watch that? Who

1970
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 2: was in that? That must have been JD one of

1971
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 2: your sons. Were they? And Frozens? That's why I was there?

1972
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 2: They were both in Yeah, they were.

1973
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 3: Both yes, yeah, yeah, Lincoln was He was their reindeer, right.

1974
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 7: Spin span he was right yeah, and uh Jackson, I

1975
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 7: can't remember the character's name. Buddy was like the Duke

1976
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 7: of something or other, the guy who does yeah yeah.

1977
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good times.

1978
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 7: Good times, love to love to get back to the

1979
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 7: live theater at some.

1980
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 2: Point, you know, oh yeah, yeah.

1981
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 7: Well Lincoln is in a school of the arts and

1982
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 7: that's that's his thing. And there's been nothing doing doing

1983
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 7: drama classes over zoom is not is not great.

1984
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 2: No, No, imagine are you reading lines with them every

1985
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:22,759
Speaker 2: once in a while.

1986
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't.

1987
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 7: There's no shows, there's nothing nothing.

1988
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got to keep working on his craft.

1989
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 3: Man.

1990
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: I hate to be a shock about this, Okay.

1991
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 3: But o case, take it easy, kid, big winter bum out?

1992
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 3: That's that was a lie. Well yeah, blowout big No,

1993
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 3: he says, big summer blow up, big summer blow up.

1994
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1995
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 3: I tried to adapt it for Lincoln being upset. Bum

1996
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 3: out right, Yeah, that's not a term. Bum out isn't

1997
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 3: a term.

1998
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: Pick of results from last night Lakers Bucks game, Lakers

1999
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 2: favored by one and a half. Trey and I had

2000
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 2: the Laker to get it done and they did. So

2001
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 2: that's a good win for us because it's tight for

2002
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 2: the three of you, especially Trey goes to nine and eleven.

2003
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 2: I'm eleven and nine, and then we got tacin Lee

2004
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: who had the Bucks last night with the yel you

2005
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: guys are eight and twelve, so you guys are tied

2006
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 2: for last. Tray's right there, and I'm a couple of

2007
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 2: games up. What's tonight's game there?

2008
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 3: Tass Well, that's a rematch from a couple of nights ago,

2009
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,879
Speaker 3: we had that double ot game between the Calves and Nets.

2010
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 3: They're playing again, but the spread is shocking. Two teams

2011
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 3: go to double overtime. You expect the spread to be

2012
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 3: close here, but the Calves are getting nine and a

2013
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 3: half points at home. They can lose by nine if

2014
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 3: you pick them. Wow, with the Nets visiting at home,

2015
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 3: this is shocking. So start us off here, Skates, what

2016
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 3: do you think? Wow?

2017
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 2: That is a shocking line. And whenever I see a

2018
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 2: line like that, I go, what does Vegas know that?

2019
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 2: We don't know? What are they got going on over there?

2020
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 2: Which is why I'll take the Nets. You know, that's strange,

2021
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 2: very very strange, big line. You're like, exactly right, you

2022
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 2: just want to double overtime. Colin Sexon was on fire.

2023
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 2: You know, why would you pick against them right now?

2024
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 2: They could win the game for crinel out. Nope, give

2025
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 2: me the Nets by ten plus lee?

2026
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 3: What do you think? Yeah?

2027
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 4: Something weird about that? I don't know. I mean, like,

2028
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 4: will the Nets go?

2029
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 5: Wow?

2030
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 4: Okay, let's be locked in tonight, guys and go and

2031
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 4: get it. Probably, But I all right, give me the Caves.

2032
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 4: I think they've got I think they can keep it

2033
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 4: close enough tonight anyway, I think that wasn't just a

2034
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 4: mirage again. The Calves the nets defense gives me a

2035
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 4: little bit of hope that the sex man could go

2036
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 4: for another forty plus.

2037
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 3: So I'll say the cats, Trey, are you buying this

2038
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 3: sex man talk?

2039
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 6: Yes, I have subscribed to sex Land. I've got the

2040
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 6: premium membership. In fact, I don't know what's tough though.

2041
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 6: Kevin Durant's I guess questionable for tonight's which makes me

2042
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 6: a little hesitant. Maybe then the Calves sleep on the Nets.

2043
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 6: I guess they still got James and then Kyrie Irving.

2044
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 6: That's depth for you right there. Give me the nets.

2045
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna regret it, but give me the nets.

2046
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 2: Whoa, what are you going with?

2047
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm going with the nets too. Whoa, I've got

2048
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 3: Lee tied with him at the bottom here, So let's

2049
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 3: break it tide. Don't like ties?

2050
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 6: All right?

2051
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 2: On Monday's podcast, Yeah, somebody will be in dead last,

2052
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 2: all by themselves by their loadsome All right, let's end

2053
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 2: this strop podcast along one here. But we're having a

2054
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: lot of fun, a lot of fun conversations with a

2055
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 2: little rapid fire questions. Trey, my man, you got the

2056
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 2: cubes there, that's right, skeet see.

2057
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 6: ESPN's Tim McMahon snapped a picture of Willie Cowley Stein

2058
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 6: rocking a MAVs Defensive Player of the Game Championship belt

2059
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 6: after a game earlier this week. Looks awesome. What's another

2060
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:50,520
Speaker 6: trophy that should be handed out for single game awards?

2061
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 3: Skeets.

2062
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 2: I won't overthink this, Trey. You came up with it.

2063
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 2: When you get twenty plus rebounds, you got a lot

2064
01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 2: of roast beef. So when you do that, I think

2065
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 2: you should have to wear an Arby's hat. What's an

2066
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 2: Rby's hat. It's the Farrell hat. That's what you wear

2067
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 2: when you get twenty plus rebounds in a game, the

2068
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 2: Arby's slash Farrell hat, and you wear it proudly a

2069
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,599
Speaker 2: little Probably you could stick some roast beef up under that,

2070
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 2: have a little snack later in the day. That's why

2071
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: I love it.

2072
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 6: I love it, JD.

2073
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 7: What you got so I was thinking that we could

2074
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 7: get you know, the sashes they have and the boy

2075
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 7: Scouts and the girl Scouts where there's where you can

2076
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 7: put badges on it, and we just give badges for

2077
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 7: literally everything. You know, if you get the defensive Player

2078
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 7: of the of the week or whatever or of the night.

2079
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 7: But you know, add things like composting in first aid

2080
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,000
Speaker 7: and that kind of thing. You know, cookie entrepreneur. Maybe

2081
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 7: if somebody's opening a bakery. These are real badges, by

2082
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 7: the way, model design and stamp collecting. That'd be great

2083
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 7: if you just give those out after a game and

2084
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 7: then they they could wear them around and you know

2085
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 7: you can compare. Oh Le Brown's got a lot of them.

2086
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 7: But you know, Anthony Davis, he's got to get it

2087
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 7: up there, man, he's got to get some badges on

2088
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 7: that thing.

2089
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 3: You know.

2090
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 2: That's not that dissimilar to the like All Star jackets

2091
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 2: they used to do, right that had like a certain

2092
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: number of like All Star appearances and like Defensive Player

2093
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 2: of the Earth wins and stuff like that. But you're

2094
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 2: taking it next level with some of the skills that

2095
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 2: they made have acquired. Yeah, Sash, I like the sash

2096
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 2: a lot sash.

2097
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's awesome. At the end of the year, you

2098
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 6: can just look back and see everything you've accomplished. Hang

2099
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 6: them all on the wall. That's a great one.

2100
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 2: J D.

2101
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 5: Lee, what you are so you guys.

2102
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 4: You know, we often get emails from Australia when people say,

2103
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 4: you know, why don't you adopt the Australian rules football

2104
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 4: way of doing the MVP. We call it the Brownlow

2105
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 4: Metal by giving votes after every game and then you

2106
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 4: accumulate them at the end of the season, count them

2107
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 4: up and that decides who the MVP is.

2108
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 5: Why don't we do that?

2109
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 4: Finally in the NBA, right, So after each game, the

2110
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 4: referees get together and they give out two votes. They

2111
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 4: give five points to the best player on the court,

2112
01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 4: and then one point to the second best player, and

2113
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 4: then at the end of the season we just count

2114
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,720
Speaker 4: them up and then we get the MVP based on

2115
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 4: the amount of points they accumulate during the season. And

2116
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 4: in fact, we can have it running so we can

2117
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 4: see throughout the season who is actually winning, so then

2118
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 4: we don't have to debate the award. We can see

2119
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 4: the leaderboard who's winning, and at the end of the

2120
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 4: season it's like, Okay, that guy won it, because.

2121
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 2: After it I can't trust John Butler to make that

2122
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 2: call technical.

2123
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 4: Hey are you saying are you saying the referees of

2124
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,719
Speaker 4: more biason? People in the media, you come into this season.

2125
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 5: You say Yannis can't win no matter why.

2126
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 2: True, that's true, and I'm right, I'm right about it.

2127
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 2: You know, I can't trust John Butler. I'm sorry if

2128
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 2: that is it's me.

2129
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 3: I see.

2130
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 5: That's the thing.

2131
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 4: There's no one system that works perfectly for everyone. So

2132
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 4: do it in the heat of the moment.

2133
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 6: Good stuff.

2134
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 2: Second, wrap it by our question.

2135
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 6: Joelle Embiid and Marcus Smart got into a war of

2136
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 6: words about who's the bigger flopper after Embiid shot twenty

2137
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,719
Speaker 6: one free throws and went over the Celtics. But here's

2138
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 6: the twist. They both flop all the time. Guys, when's

2139
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 6: the time you faked something for dramatic effect?

2140
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 2: Skates, I apologize if I've told this story before. I

2141
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:07,560
Speaker 2: can't remember if I have on the podcast. But one Christmas.

2142
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 2: Every Christmas we would usually not this year, but we

2143
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,439
Speaker 2: would fly home to Canada, of course, be with family.

2144
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 2: And I've been with Nora for a long time, nearly

2145
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 2: twenty years in fact, so this is a while back.

2146
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,719
Speaker 2: But I was probably in year three or four, let's say,

2147
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 2: maybe year five of going to her family Christmas, and

2148
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 2: one of their traditions, she has a British aunt that

2149
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 2: married into the family a long long time ago, and

2150
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 2: we would do the British Christmas pudding. Now, Lee, I

2151
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 2: don't know if you've ever done this, but what they

2152
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 2: would do their whole thing is she aunt Jenny would

2153
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 2: put a bunch of dimes in it, and you know,

2154
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 2: then it's cut up, it's put on fire. It's a

2155
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 2: big show, and then it's passed around and you pass

2156
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 2: it around this giant table and it's got to keep

2157
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 2: going until it, you know, obviously gets to the closest

2158
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 2: person back to where the pudding was, and you get

2159
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:53,679
Speaker 2: your piece, and you see if you get a dime,

2160
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 2: if you get a dime, hey, it's good luck.

2161
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 6: Right.

2162
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 2: Well, I knew this is a thing they did because

2163
01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 2: again I'd been there for a couple of years. So

2164
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:01,680
Speaker 2: I just decided, I don't know why. I just thought

2165
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 2: it would be hilarious that I would take a fifty

2166
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 2: dollars bill that I had and I wrapped it up

2167
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 2: in tinfoil and advance had it in my pocket. You know,

2168
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 2: it gets everything gets passed around. There's too much going on.

2169
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 2: It's a huge Armenian family, right, everybody's like yelling and

2170
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 2: talking and stuff, having a laugh, and so I sort

2171
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 2: of just slipped it on my on my plate, and

2172
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 2: everybody always does the thing like, oh found a dime,

2173
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 2: Oh found a dime. Everybody trying and keep track and

2174
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 2: all that, and so I did, oh, what's this? And

2175
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 2: then I, you know, had sort of everybody's attention and

2176
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 2: open it up and was like, wow, fifty dollars, I'd

2177
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 2: be a huge deal. And you should have seen the

2178
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 2: reactions from everyone at the table, like he will jaw

2179
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 2: like literally hit the floor. They couldn't believe it because

2180
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 2: they thought it was real. Uh, and it was a

2181
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 2: grand old laugh and it was nailed it perfectly. I

2182
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 2: played it off perfectly, like I was excited, like, wow,

2183
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 2: Auntie Jenny's putt in fifties now man dimes and fifties,

2184
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,040
Speaker 2: so that's nice. I can't remember if I shared that

2185
01:35:58,080 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 2: story on this podcast.

2186
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:00,799
Speaker 3: I feel like an outside offline.

2187
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 2: No, okay, So that was you know, look, the family

2188
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 2: already loved old Skeetzy, but that took me. Still talk

2189
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 2: about it.

2190
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,440
Speaker 3: Leal still reminius.

2191
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 6: About that time, fifteen years deep in the podcasting game,

2192
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 6: reaching deep in the bag, like the Fries were at

2193
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 6: the bottom pulling on a banger oh skates with a

2194
01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 6: fifty dollars dime.

2195
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 2: Love it. Unfortunately, we'd have to use that fifty and

2196
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 2: give half a bit the task.

2197
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:32,439
Speaker 7: That's quick thee I had a little bit of trouble

2198
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 7: coming up with something, so I'm just gonna say I

2199
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 7: faked sweating for a DraftKings ad a couple of months ago,

2200
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 7: and I have Jackson sprang me down with a with

2201
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 7: a little spray bottle and I got water all over

2202
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 7: my system, and but it was totally worth it. It

2203
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 7: was totally worth it the gag. It went off without

2204
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 7: a hitch. So that's my answer.

2205
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 6: I was a banger of an ad Reid too Bley.

2206
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 4: Pretty much every day when I go outside and play

2207
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 4: with my two boys, we play hide and Seek or

2208
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 4: blasters or something like that. And whenever we play Lego

2209
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 4: Blasters or Star Wars blasters, I have to fake going

2210
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 4: down every time. Like my four year old won't let

2211
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 4: me just be like, I can't just let them bounce

2212
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 4: off me. I have to go down. I have to

2213
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,720
Speaker 4: be down and out for the count. And it's like,

2214
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 4: after like the tenth time, I'm like I'm not I'm done, man,

2215
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,760
Speaker 4: I'm done. I'm not going down again. They're going to

2216
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 4: go back down and then to get back up, and

2217
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 4: then he just blasts me again. And he never goes

2218
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 4: down when I blast him either. He's always got a

2219
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 4: shield up.

2220
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 2: He always protects himself.

2221
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 4: If I use the same tactics, it never works. I'm like,

2222
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 4: I've I've got a should Actually, you don't have a

2223
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 4: shield for this blast. I'm like, woy, how do you

2224
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 4: have a shield all the time? How come you're always

2225
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 4: blocking my blast? But I've always got to go down

2226
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:44,839
Speaker 4: for yours.

2227
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 6: I'm like, they got that advance to technology game up.

2228
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 2: Sounds like you suck it blasters. I do.

2229
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 4: I do, apparently because I can never ever defeat those guys.

2230
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 4: They always beat me, especially the four year old.

2231
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 5: He's very sly, he's very funny.

2232
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 6: He knows how to get me last rapid fire question.

2233
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 6: With the win over Kansas City this week, this weekend,

2234
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 6: Little Bills would go to the Super Bowl for the

2235
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:12,639
Speaker 6: first time since nineteen ninety three. Shout out to Darryl Tally,

2236
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 6: what's something you haven't done since the nineties, But you

2237
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 6: might get back into skips.

2238
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 2: I am just continuing to talk this into existence. NBA

2239
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 2: Jam playing it a lot, and I'm eventually gonna get

2240
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 2: the NBA JAM arcade system, you know, the whole cabinet.

2241
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. You know again, I've talked about

2242
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 2: this before in the pot. We're getting closer because I

2243
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 2: think my buddy Chris just saw one the other day

2244
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 2: at the Walmart. He's like, is this what you were

2245
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 2: talking ABOUT'M like, that's it. That's it, so we know

2246
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 2: it's there. I can just go pick it up later

2247
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:45,640
Speaker 2: today if I wanted to.

2248
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:47,480
Speaker 3: And I'm a little.

2249
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 6: Jam on a Friday looking forward to the unboxing.

2250
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I definitely will unbox that.

2251
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 5: Once I get that.

2252
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, launch a twist channel if you get into gaming.

2253
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 2: Played a ton of it in the nineties, of course,

2254
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:00,599
Speaker 2: but I'm bringing it back, all right.

2255
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 7: Jerdi shaving maybe you know it's been uh it has

2256
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,679
Speaker 7: literally been since the nineties since I didn't have a beard.

2257
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 7: So and it's getting a little Yeah, when you can't

2258
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 7: see the logo on your shirt, it's it's getting a

2259
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 7: little zz top. So I don't know. I thought I

2260
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 7: was thinking what would happen if I just shave like

2261
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 7: complete no no facial hair. I don't it's literally been

2262
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 7: thirty years since I've since That's wow. It was just

2263
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 7: show up one day and just be like you would

2264
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 7: be like, who is that guy? Like you would not

2265
01:39:34,840 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 7: recognize me?

2266
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 2: Probably, Well, we've never known you. We've seen the odd

2267
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 2: photo maybe, but yeah, you've never known you without a beard.

2268
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know me without

2269
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 7: a beard. Yeah, yeah, I had a beard ins for sure.

2270
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2271
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 7: So I'm worried about my jowels.

2272
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 6: Do you know?

2273
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 7: I don't.

2274
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:56,719
Speaker 3: I don't.

2275
01:39:56,760 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 7: I got no chin. That's my joke. I'm I'm and

2276
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 7: like Roger Ebert after he had his surgery, his lotch

2277
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 7: and removed.

2278
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 4: When I first started traveling in the nineties, I used

2279
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 4: to have a bum bag, a fanny pack as you

2280
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 4: call it over here, and I used to love it.

2281
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 5: Because fanny packs bum bags. They were in. They were

2282
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 5: in in, in, and then they were out out out.

2283
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 5: People like, get that out of here.

2284
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:28,759
Speaker 4: No one wants to see you with a bum bag anymore.

2285
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 5: But I like them, So I did rock.

2286
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,960
Speaker 4: I hold onto mine for a while, and now I've

2287
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 4: missed traveling so much. Next time I'm going on the plane,

2288
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 4: I'm getting a brand new bum bag. I'm putting the

2289
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 4: passports in it, I put my wallet in it, I'm

2290
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 4: put my phone in it. I'm bringing back it's a

2291
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 4: bum bag. I think it's time for it to come back.

2292
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 5: I think so.

2293
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 4: It's a cycle and they're cool.

2294
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 2: I like that they are back. I mean, Tree, you

2295
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 2: can probably speak to this better than I can. The

2296
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 2: fanny pack is it's back, isn't it last couple of years?

2297
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 2: I feel like you always see guys coming into the

2298
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 2: arena wearing them.

2299
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, the fanny pack is back, but I've never heard

2300
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 6: it called a bum bag. Could definitely come back.

2301
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:05,679
Speaker 2: What would you do, Lea? If Lebron tweeted at you,

2302
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 2: you bum bag, I would say, you see it's back

2303
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 2: in the bum bag is back.

2304
01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 5: See the fannie pack.

2305
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 4: Means something different in Australia or you. I woke around

2306
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 4: sign up people, I've got my fanny packed out.

2307
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 6: And Jenny would just laugh.

2308
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. All right, that's a rapid fire.

2309
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 2: Let's call it there. This is a long one, but hey,

2310
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Speaker 2: you got all weekend to listen to this classic. If

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Speaker 2: the best damn sports writing in the world. Thanks so

2318
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,719
Speaker 2: much to the stream team the team stream for joining

2319
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 2: us live here on YouTube. Really appreciate it. If you

2320
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 2: listen on Apple Podcasts, please leave us that five star

2321
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 2: rating and review. We'll get to a five star Friday

2322
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 2: some point in February, so if you got a new review,

2323
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Speaker 2: you might get in the show. All right, fun one guys,

2324
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 2: Clipper bros. You heard it here first, have a great time,

2325
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:10,680
Speaker 2: turn up.

2326
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 6: Love you guys awesome.

2327
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:17,720
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember one Christmas, I went

2328
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 3: to Christmas Dinner and I wrapped up fifty and food

2329
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:24,560
Speaker 3: Aunt Jenny.

2330
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:26,719
Speaker 2: It brings the weekend. People.

2331
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 4: You could stay.

2332
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 6: Every day.

2333
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 1: And Dannie happy every minute.

2334
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:41,520
Speaker 2: It's been so long of your mona.

2335
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 7: Way, it's happy already.

2336
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna be grevy