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Speaker 2: But one of the storylines in the NFL that's kind

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Speaker 2: could just get something from the quarterback, or you could

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Speaker 2: a real threat. Instead, the defense has not been great.

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Speaker 4: I've known Taylor a long time. He's very capable, he's

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Speaker 4: very thorough. I largely been pleased with his work, but

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Speaker 3: Just going to keep working.

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Speaker 2: So the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to keep working, and

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Speaker 2: that work is going to continue this week against the

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts, who have the best offense in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So now all the discussion that we were having. Oh

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Speaker 2: and by the way, highest paid defensive unit in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: So they have the most money locked up on that

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Speaker 3: Uh, Obviously it's not a dominant defense, but I don't

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Speaker 3: Yet they do have t J. Watt, they have Jalen

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Speaker 3: They I mean, they had a slip up against Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: They totally looked like they were outmatched and out manned

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Speaker 2: I mean, there was the stories out there that that

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Speaker 2: And that's a lot of money locked up on that

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're just not getting what you thought you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's still a good team and they still

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what they're known for. And you're getting

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Speaker 2: all right, now, we're not hearing conversations about well, if

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Speaker 3: That's Steelers football.

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Speaker 2: I've never in my life said, wow, man, that defense

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Speaker 3: If we're being honest. Is there any team that you

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Speaker 3: right now today? No? And I think that that's probably

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Speaker 2: It's the most disappointing division in the league by far,

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Speaker 2: But that's been Joe Burrow's history. When is Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: The Ravens have been really disappointing despite getting a win

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Speaker 2: But now you've dropped two in a row, and the

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Speaker 2: just it feels like that division as a whole, somebody's

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Speaker 2: the way it looks, and we're basically halfway.

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Speaker 3: Through the year, and then there's the idea of trying

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 2: I will give you these standings as they currently stand

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the most sensible decision to make

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Speaker 3: it's the Bengals, but it should be the Steelers. The

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Speaker 3: Seven at minus one thirty, So you're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: That is how much confidence the odds makers have in

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Speaker 3: They're not that far away. I mean, but two wins,

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Speaker 3: two wins? How many games have they been without Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 3: He's been a part of those losses. Yeah, yeah, Like

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Speaker 3: it's not like they started losing when Lamar Jackson went out.

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Speaker 3: They've been losing even when he was in there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look the you know, and you want to

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Speaker 2: But yeah, like that win against the Bears, and I

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Speaker 3: That says a lot about what they, you know, the

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Speaker 2: That's that says a lot about how people feel about

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Speaker 3: Statistics say that if you lose your first three or

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It was one of the like, if you know,

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Speaker 3: It's a poor it's a poor play out of the

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Speaker 2: It's also the other thing about Lamar Jackson that I

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Speaker 2: There was part of like there is some rumblings that

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Speaker 2: It's a hamstring. He's a mobile quarterback. Like I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I think if he was one hundred percent healthy, it's

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Speaker 3: is still better than every quarterback in that in that division.

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Speaker 3: And I wouldn't say that that's inaccurate. You know, I

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Speaker 3: would say it's it's it was. It's dangerously close to

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Speaker 2: The last two games for Pittsburgh changed I think how

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Speaker 3: You still have to ask the question is this team

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Speaker 3: they're at five and two, but is that a is

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Speaker 2: Especially after the Cincinnati game, I would say, yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean, like the way they go about winning,

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Speaker 3: and that's been the problem even when they were undefeated,

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Speaker 2: And that was that was one of my favorite Rob

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Speaker 3: Rob Parker said, it's the worst twelve and oh team

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Speaker 2: Just like throwing out just label, just giving him a

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Speaker 2: it's you know that that division has been a disappointment.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers had an opportunity the past two weeks to

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Speaker 2: of that, Baltimore getting Lamar Jackson back on a short

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Speaker 3: Right now, they are only three two games two, one game.

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Speaker 3: They're one game ahead. How many could they lost to Cincinnati?

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Speaker 3: I know they had one more win than Baltimore, but no, no,

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Speaker 3: they have two more two more wins. Yeah, but I'm

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Speaker 3: trying how many? How many divisional games have those teams playing?

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Speaker 3: So Baltimore's want to know in the division? Yep, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you, I mean, if you're looking

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Speaker 2: so they're eight to one, so that'll pay you out

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Speaker 3: So that's a hard one. I feel like the AFC

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Speaker 3: North is a hard division to call, and I'll leave

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's a hard one to call in

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Speaker 3: I think that that is one of the most insanely

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Speaker 2: and Division two and Division three management councils also signed

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Speaker 2: off on it, allowing it to go into effect this

436
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: coming Saturday. NCAA athletes are still prohibited from betting on

437
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: college sports and sharing information about college sports with betters.

438
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: Betting sites also aren't allowed to advertise or sponsor NCAA championships.

439
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: So like, all right, listen, we don't want to sponsor

440
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 2: your championships, but all these athletes feel free to give

441
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 2: it a whirl, all right, you know, spin the chamber

442
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 2: and see what happens on some of these betting apps.

443
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Speaker 3: Now.

444
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 2: Greg Sankie, the SEC commissioner, he asked the NCAA to

445
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 2: rescind the pending rule change that will allow athletes and

446
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: the athletic department staff members to bet on professessonal sports

447
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: coming this Saturday. According to a copy of a membo

448
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: obtained by ESPN, Pat and Our Doozy, the head coach

449
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: of pitt He also aired his thoughts on this new

450
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: rule and allowing college athletes to bet on professional sports,

451
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 2: and he said.

452
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Speaker 6: This, I'm not a gambler, I don't, So I just

453
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 6: don't understand it. You know, I'm not addicted anything. I

454
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 6: just don't think it's a great thing to teach our

455
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 6: young people how to do. You know, it's hard enough

456
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 6: in the compliance office of trying to get your guys

457
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 6: not to gamble.

458
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: You can gamble on a boxing match.

459
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 6: You can gamble, you know, on horse races because it's

460
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 6: on an NCAA sport. But who's gambling on horse races really?

461
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 6: I mean unless you go to the you know, the

462
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 6: horse track. But now you know, just you know, it's

463
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 6: a thing on your phone and you can pick it

464
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 6: up and you can get get on an app and

465
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 6: it's like what are we doing? Like and once you

466
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 6: do it once and you win, you want to go

467
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 6: do it again. It becomes an addiction. I just think

468
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 6: it's it's not good.

469
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 2: So that was Paton ar Doozy airing his concerns about

470
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: college athletes being allowed to gamble on professional sports starting Saturday.

471
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 3: As interesting, It's a topic that was being discussed, debated, obviously,

472
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: you know, fought over who who was a part of

473
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 3: these conversations that led to the conclusion of being that

474
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 3: these young men and women at the collegiate level should

475
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: be allowed to partake in sports betting at you know,

476
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: the pro level. That would be what what my first

477
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: question would be.

478
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: It's also interesting that they're like, look, they can bet

479
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: on professional sports, do not bet on college sports. They

480
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: do realize that when you go on your DraftKings app,

481
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: it's just like one little tabaway.

482
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: I just I just don't understand why there is even

483
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: the conversation of it being a compromise, you know what

484
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, it just seems like that's so out

485
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 3: of place. It's so out of place, like even like

486
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: and take this into consideration, more often than not, a junior,

487
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: a senior, a red shirt junior, a red shirt senior

488
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: help sometimes a red shirt sophomore are twenty one years old.

489
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 3: And I think it's inappropriate for college students, college student

490
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 3: athletes to endorse liquor. But I don't think that they

491
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: should be endorsing that. So what about Stick City longer?

492
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: I don't think that they should be endorsing it. And

493
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: so to me, when you're talking about something like gambling,

494
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 3: that one is I mean, how I view gambling on

495
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: sports as as something that certainly you have to want

496
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 3: to do, Like that's something like a casual person like, yeah,

497
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 3: there you can find cases of people who casually go

498
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: on to these sites. But for the most part, if

499
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: you're downloading one of these these gambling sites, you're gambling.

500
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 3: And so I just don't I don't feel like opening

501
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: up that door and saying, oh, there's an exception here.

502
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: Don't bet on college because you're here, but you can

503
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 3: bet on pros because you're not there. I just I

504
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 3: think that's poor judgment. I don't I don't understand how

505
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 3: morally speaking, how that makes sense. It almost comes across

506
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: as the agenda of what of what sports betting represents.

507
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: It's bigger sports betting, what they what the consumer presents.

508
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: Even at the college level with the active athletes, it

509
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: presents the opportunity to increase the bottom line. And I

510
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: think that that's that's a tap bit like off.

511
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: Putting, like here's what here's what I love about it

512
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: that I don't get it. I don't understand why anybody

513
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: thought that this was a great idea. That being said,

514
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: why should it even be? All right, So like let's

515
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: like let's have a call, like let's throw out possible

516
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: reasons as to why they thought that this was appropriate.

517
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: Maybe because they're like, well, look, i mean they're getting

518
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: nil money now, so if we can make a few

519
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: bucks off them, why not, Like, let's not turn down

520
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: any business.

521
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: Like I'm being sick because I don't understand any grew up.

522
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: Maybe they grew up in a casino. Maybe their family

523
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: members were a part of sports book and casinos.

524
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: And I swear to God, like I'm saying all of

525
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: this and laughing, I'm not joking.

526
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: Like maybe there.

527
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: Is some element of well, look, I mean you know

528
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: they're being paid now, well let's treat them like a

529
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: olds like let's uh, you have that you have the

530
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: right to go in there. Or maybe they're trying to

531
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: snuff some of these people out, like hey, you know,

532
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 2: we gotta we got to figure out, you know, in

533
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: real time right now, who we can trust who we can't,

534
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: and let's start, you know, going down that road. But

535
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: it is interesting that they just randomly decided, you know

536
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: what's starting November first, feel free, Like everybody go ahead

537
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: and uh and and give it a whirl and go

538
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: gamble on professional sports.

539
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: If you're if you're a college athlete. It's just it

540
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: it seems like it's Crowbard.

541
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, almost to an agenda, almost like you're trying to

542
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: bait some people into doing some stuff like oh, here

543
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 2: we go, like let's let's throw this in there and see,

544
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: uh see who takes the who takes the bait on this?

545
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: Like let's be real here, right, you you go on

546
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: to the site, you start seeing the lines and stuff

547
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: like that, it's right there, It's right there in front

548
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: of you. Bro.

549
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: It's like putting a bottle of vodka in an AA

550
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: meeting next to the cookies and being like, all right,

551
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: let's see, uh, let's see who's serious about this, Like,

552
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: let's see.

553
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: Less unless you told me that they had a site

554
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: that was specifically for athletes in college that did not

555
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: show any college sports on that site, on that app

556
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: And even then I'd be like, yeah, but you're still

557
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: feeding feeding something that could be like a gateway to

558
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 3: them going on to another site and and doing just that.

559
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: But again, I've always come to the conclusion, this has

560
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: always been my conclusion on sports betting, why do you

561
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: do it? Why why do you do it? Like if

562
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: you're if you're going to to enjoy me, what I'm

563
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: saying is like, why why do you why do you

564
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: log in? Why do you place the bets? Why do

565
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: you collect the money? And I get it that it's

566
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: a it's you know, it's a pastimes. What's your motivation

567
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: And why wouldn't you just like, oh, like I can

568
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: get my fix by telling you like I would me,

569
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: I would bet on this game, and I go this route,

570
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: I take the over unders on that boom, and I

571
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: can get my if I'm going to get a rush

572
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: off of the get the bet, I can get that

573
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: off of somebody who really does it and saying yeah,

574
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: do this. It's it's also here, you know what I mean, Like,

575
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: why are you directly doing it? Like? That's what I've

576
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: never understood.

577
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: Here's also the part of this that I don't think,

578
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: because look, I think this is.

579
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 3: Also just have somebody else do it. That's that's what

580
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: I want. I try to do it, be like about it.

581
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: But why wouldn't you just have somebody else? Of course,

582
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: and you.

583
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: Could have always done that, and people probably did. I

584
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: think this is air just to see what's going to

585
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: happen next, And I'm all about the chaos. I'm all

586
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: about what's going to be the better story for the

587
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: radio show. I mean you know, hey, listen, not trying

588
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: to hope for negativity, but if it's presented and there's

589
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 2: a bad ending to all this, I'm in Like, I

590
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: think that's more entertaining and it's more fun to discuss.

591
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: The part about the Terry Rozier NBA story and the

592
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: NBA story that I think ties into this is the

593
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: real issue that they had was the fact that people

594
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: were giving away information about statuses of players' health and

595
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: whether or not they were going to be partaking in

596
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: upcoming games, most notably Lebron James and the Damon Jones story.

597
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: Damon Jones was tipping people off to Lebron's not playing

598
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: in this game, hammered the Milwaukee Bucks at the time.

599
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me that none of these college players,

600
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: like and I'm not saying this whatever happened, but just

601
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: for example, well like they just played with these guys.

602
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: Like if you're Jackson Dart's teammate at Ole Miss and

603
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: he's starting for the Giants, you don't think Jackson Darts

604
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: aware of who's playing and who's not in the upcoming

605
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: Giants game. And so all of a sudden, somebody from

606
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: Ole Miss says, hey, man, uh, is such and such

607
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: gonna be playing like what are we looking at? It does? Now,

608
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: we we're gonna go run heavy on this. There are

609
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: props you can do for rushing yards, passing yards. He's

610
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: the quarterback of that team. He's probably still got friends

611
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: that are at ole Miss. They could hit him up.

612
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: And that's here's the thing. Who's to say that's just

613
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: not a normal regular conversation.

614
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's not even there's no ill intent, like

615
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: there's no He's just like, man, like, how's it going

616
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: up there?

617
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: What's going I don't know?

618
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 7: Man?

619
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: This week, you know, coach coach is playing it and

620
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: a tackle down you can bet on all that we're

621
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: going to go. We're probably going to this week, you.

622
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: Know, like just like tie it together. Hey.

623
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: For some reason, you know, we get we get a

624
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: lot of old Miss players that are betting on Giants games.

625
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, Like for some reason

626
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 2: they're betting the the over under on passing and rushing

627
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 2: yards and the Giants games.

628
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. I don't know.

629
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because they played with the Giants starting quarterback

630
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: last year and now they can gamble on those games.

631
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: Like like it is to Nardozzi's credit. Pat Nardozzi said it,

632
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: I think it's a bad idea. You're right, and that's

633
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: what makes it awesome, because somehow, someway.

634
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: This is gonna blow up in their face. And I

635
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: don't get it. I just don't understand. Why wouldn't you

636
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 3: call your your your friend in New York City or

637
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: in California, or in Wyoming or Montana, yes, and tell

638
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: them to place the bet and then you get the

639
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: money off of them. I'll never understand why you would

640
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 3: directly connect yourself to doing bets that you have what

641
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 3: you would say, air quotes in sad information to So

642
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: this is how it used to be done. What's that

643
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: to stop you from doing it for yourself? Agreed? Agreed, Like,

644
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: there's no way to really fully regulate the rules of

645
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: engagement of how all of this works.

646
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: So I probably shouldn't. No, No, I'll just I'll air

647
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: this out.

648
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 3: That's fine.

649
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: So how it used to go back in the day,

650
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: because I knew a guy that would handle gambling, and

651
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: basically what he would do is because if you had

652
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: information on certain sporting events, you couldn't you didn't want

653
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: to load up heavy on an event or something like that,

654
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: because all of a sudden it would flag people and

655
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: people would catch wind of the fact that, oh, this

656
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: is well, there's a lot of action coming on in

657
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: this one spot, on this one player in this one game.

658
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: What's happening here? And next thing you know, you can't

659
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: gamble at that casino. And that happens in Vegas all

660
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: the time. Dana White, who's a notorious blackjack player, isn't

661
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 2: allowed at the Palms casino because he won too much

662
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 2: money off them. They're not looking to get done over,

663
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: they're looking to do the doing over of people. That's

664
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Speaker 2: why they the Vegas looks the way that looks. So

665
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: what you would do back in the day is if

666
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Speaker 2: you wanted to bet one hundred thousand dollars on a

667
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: sporting event, a result like whatever it was, instead of

668
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: betting one hundred thousand dollars at let's say, you know,

669
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: the MGM Grand Sportsbook, you would take ten thousand dollars

670
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: and you would go bet it at ten different places,

671
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: so that that way it wouldn't look so out of

672
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Speaker 2: the ordinary that there would be a.

673
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Speaker 3: Bunch of money coming in.

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Speaker 2: Well, theoretically, if you wanted to take that same approach.

675
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: You didn't really need the app to go ahead and

676
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: do that. If you're a professional athlete and you've got information,

677
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: you could hit up some guy and say, hey, take

678
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: some cash, go to Caesar's bet on this result, and

679
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: then we'll split the winnings. There's no paper trail, there's

680
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: no you're.

681
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: Not on it.

682
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: Like this stuff has always existed, but now they're making

683
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 2: it so easy for people to get into that world

684
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: and get caught up in some stuff that maybe they're

685
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: not even really fully aware that they're doing anything wrong.

686
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: Like all those NFL players Calvin Ridley and Jamison Williams

687
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: and all those guys that got suspended, and Ridley got

688
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: suspended for a year, Calvin Ridley was just sitting at home,

689
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: he was away from the team and was like, on

690
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: the game, Yeah, I'm gonna been on my team and

691
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet on six other teams in a parlay

692
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: and see what happens, not even thinking, oh, by the way,

693
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna be suspended for a year if you do that.

694
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Speaker 3: He didn't even winn either, No think he won. And

695
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: there weren't even big bets like these. They're not big bets.

696
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: And I could like again, like, it's no to me.

697
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: I'm not a gambler, so I could be totally off

698
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: base for this, but I feel like it's no different

699
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: than fantasy football or fantasy whatever sport, Yeah, name it.

700
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 3: Like you you predict, you say this is what it's

701
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: going to be, and you're rewarded if you're right, and

702
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: you lose if you're wrong. Pretty simple, Right, So if

703
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: you're sitting there and like you said, and you're watching

704
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 3: and you're spectating, like I would assume for the people

705
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: who gamble, it makes this watching the games more interesting.

706
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: It intensifies the experience of doing it because you have

707
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: more of a vested interests literally, an invested interest and

708
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: what happens during the course of that game. Some people

709
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: it's almost like, you know, isn't that why they came

710
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: up with espresso? Like some people got used to coffee

711
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 3: and coffee didn't keep them up as well as it

712
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: should have. So now enter in a stronger version of

713
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: the coffee. Right, then you get a capasito, and so

714
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: you see what I'm saying. Right, It's like at some

715
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: point it's like you're it's like this isn't it's not

716
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: just good enough? For me to sit here and watch it. No,

717
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: or it's not just good enough for me to sit

718
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: here and play fantasy football with it, Like I want

719
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 3: some I need something to heighten my experience, need some

720
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 3: juice that's human nature, and need some juice that's that's

721
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: human nature. And what you're doing by saying these these

722
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Speaker 3: young men and women athletes in college, what you're saying

723
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Speaker 3: is is that we're going to acclimate you and onboard

724
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Speaker 3: you to something that maybe you've already been doing, something

725
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: that you might be curious about doing, you know, pique

726
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: your interest, get you involved, and now we have converted

727
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: uh and have penetrated a different market. Legally, you've legally

728
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: penetrated a younger demographic. It's the only bananas. I mean,

729
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: if you, if you really think about it, like if

730
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Speaker 3: you if you take a deeper dive into it and say,

731
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: why is this even a conversation? I mean, it's legal

732
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Speaker 3: for the rest of the student body to gamble as

733
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: much as they want to gamble, and they're and they're

734
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 3: and they're probably friends with those guys. So now you're

735
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 3: talking about implementing a an influencer an influencer driven concept,

736
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: why are they allowed to to to bet on on pros,

737
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: because if they're allowed to bet on pros, then they'll

738
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: probably be telling their friends in and around in and

739
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: around campus, like what they're betting on, what they're doing,

740
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Speaker 3: do dot, do this? That, and the other like what

741
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: are you doing? You know? And maybe that grows their

742
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: their presence within a college demographic of people. If you

743
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: looked at what sports betting, what they're going after demo wise,

744
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: I think that would tell you the story. That would

745
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: tell you the story that maybe one of the penetration

746
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Speaker 3: points that they've been trying to figure out might be

747
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 3: that age of a demographic, which is the college level

748
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Speaker 3: of of of age grew.

749
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Speaker 2: And it's and it's it's gotten bigger and bigger. And look,

750
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: part of it was during COVID. I mean people were

751
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: looking for anything to hey, listen, man, I bet on

752
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: a horse race in Japan, Okay, and they were running

753
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: backwards and the guys had masks on, I swear, And

754
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: that is a true story. So I am guilty as

755
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: anybody of all this, but like a lot of that

756
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: took place during COVID because it was like, well the

757
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: UFCS on. Oh and by the way, you can gamble

758
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: on this stuff. Sweet, Like, that's where this started picking up.

759
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: And if you go back a little bit further than that,

760
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: it wasn't that long ago. I think it was around

761
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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. It might have been a little bit maybe

762
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: even later than that, to where Tony Romo wanted to

763
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: hold a fantasy football convention in Las Vegas and Roger

764
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: Goodell in the NFL told him no, because we don't

765
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: want to partner with anything that would be somewhat close

766
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: to gambling. And look where we're at now to where

767
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: now it's hey, anybody wants some action here, like, hey,

768
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: college athletes, go bet on some professional sports, on guys

769
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: that you might have relationships with, because we didn't have

770
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: just a problem with that with the NBA and and

771
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: any sort of insider trading or like the whole thing

772
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: this is like a wife getting her husband a hooker

773
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: for his birthday and then being like.

774
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: What do you mean you fooled around?

775
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: Like all right, what do you mean how could you

776
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: if you're putting this in their hands. I'm not gonna

777
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: be overly critical when stuff like this pops off or

778
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: there's an issue, just saying to patn oar Doozy's credit,

779
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 2: and as we've laid out, do not be surprised if

780
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: something funky happens like this. This just feels like they're

781
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: setting yourself up for something.

782
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: That obviously a setup. It's it's obviously not there's nothing

783
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: positive about that. Like something should probably stay, you know,

784
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: like it just shouldn't be available.

785
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 2: Like if your son called you up and was like, hey, Dad,

786
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: I'm betting on Abdul's over under sack total for this.

787
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 3: What do you think of this?

788
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: She'd probably be like, wait what wait, wait.

789
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: What do you mean? You know how long I paid

790
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: your bills for brouh keep your money in your bank account? Damn.

791
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 3: That is crazy, though, that is crazy to think like

792
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 3: college athletes being able to just gamble. Yeah, now with

793
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 3: that being said, I again, I played blackjack when I

794
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: was in college. Not much, not often, but I did

795
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: play blackjack, you know what I mean? Like I gambled

796
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: you counting cards and wearing act ray glasses. I wasn't

797
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: a I've never been a degenerate gambler though, so but

798
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I'm saying you shouldn't be able to

799
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: gamble and bet. But I was playing blackjack in college.

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00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: Like if I went somewhere on like spring break or whatever,

801
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: and they had a casino, I'd go play. I go

802
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: play blackjacks, some hands of blackjack. Now, if I'm looking

803
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 3: at it from that casual perspective, is it so wrong?

804
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 3: Like if you're playing Devil's Advocate to it? Is it

805
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: so wrong to say, Hey, you know, I bet on

806
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: I bet on this football game. I'm a fan of

807
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: the team, or you know, I feel like I'm good at,

808
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: you know, predicting games and stuff like that. I want

809
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: to I want to throw a couple of dollars down.

810
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: I mean, how how out of control? That is crazy?

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Speaker 3: How that is crazy? That Black and Drag is black

812
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Speaker 3: and drack? Is I've seen sound black and drack? Is it?

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Speaker 3: I've seen of our black and drag?

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Speaker 2: Somebody eyed LaVar and I for Black and Drag and

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Speaker 2: they actually got our faces on that.

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Speaker 3: That's disturbed. I'm gonna have to see this one. That's disturbing.

817
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 3: It's actually upsetting, really it really is? Is it too

818
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 3: good or is it terrifying? Yeah, I'm not that tan.

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Speaker 3: It's just oh nibble. I'm so mad at them for that.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Hello, sir, Good morning, Hello. How you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm all right, I guess I guess that's cool.

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Speaker 7: Kind of tired of going to Dodger Stadium every day

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00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 7: with all the fanfare and hoopla and chaos because it's

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Speaker 7: a world series, but that's.

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Speaker 3: Part of the job.

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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, what was that scene

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Speaker 2: like yesterday?

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Speaker 7: In comparison to keep a little more subdued, the media

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00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 7: showed up later because well, everybody was up so late

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Speaker 7: bad rap about showing up late and leaving early, I

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Speaker 7: live in and in Los Angeles, generally from outside the area.

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Speaker 7: But given that stigma that LA has people, I think

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Speaker 7: it was something like eighty percent ninety percent retention of

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Speaker 7: the people that stayed. Everybody that I know, including the

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Speaker 7: CEO of iHeartRadio, stayed all the way until midnight. So

863
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 7: the next day was a little more subdued vibe, but

864
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 7: still chaotic and still hard to get in and out.

865
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: But it's great.

866
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 7: I mean, the CLA in the World Series to have

867
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 7: the World Series at Dodger Stadium and have it I

868
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 7: guess since we've had the Dodgers, which has been way

869
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 7: over a decade and a half since we've had the

870
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 7: Dodgers on the station, I think they've been to five

871
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 7: World Series. Wow, which is just crazy because you could

872
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 7: work with or from a baseball organization for thirty years

873
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 7: and never even sniff it, maybe not even the playoffs.

874
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 7: And to see what the Dodgers have accomplished and to

875
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 7: kind of take it for granted I guess that these

876
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 7: games are going to happen all the time is pretty remarkable.

877
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 7: And then the fact that people are scared to leave

878
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 7: because something historic might happen, like it did with Otani

879
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 7: in the NLCS, like it did with Yamamoto out in Toronto.

880
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 7: You just don't know what's going to happen, or an

881
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 7: eighteen inning game, which so rarely happens but has happened

882
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 7: twice now with the Dodgers in the World Series since

883
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 7: we've had them, So there's a lot to it.

884
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 3: And it's historic and a lot of fun.

885
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 7: But as you know, I'm a curmudget In's football season,

886
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 7: so I get a little over it. But they are,

887
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 7: They're in it. They're in a real fight with the

888
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 7: Blue Jays, and we'll see what happens tonight.

889
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 3: You know, I hate to keep the conversation of baseball

890
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: going because I mean, I'm very limited in how I

891
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: feel about baseball, but I will say I do watch

892
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 3: the playoffs, and I do watch the World Series. Do

893
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: you feel like this like like nature got it right

894
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 3: with this matchup? I mean, to two, it didn't look

895
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: like you know, it doesn't look like anybody's going to

896
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 3: just run away with the series. I mean, and then

897
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: you get the almost historic run in terms of innings

898
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: for the extra ending innings needed to win the game. Petros,

899
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: what like to me, do you think that this is

900
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: like this is a good World Series even though it

901
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: wasn't two major markets and obviously one not even being

902
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: in America.

903
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, the Dodgers are one of the blue

904
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 7: bloods of baseball and they represent almost the entire West Coast,

905
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 7: so people are gonna.

906
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: Grab ate toward that.

907
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 7: And then you have the Otani factor, which is gigantic,

908
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 7: which is sort of like the Taylor Swift factor last

909
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 7: year for the NFL or the year before or whatever,

910
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 7: where it's like, you didn't think the NFL could get

911
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 7: any more popular, and then here's another twenty five million

912
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 7: people around the world because of Taylor Swift, which is

913
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 7: sad but true. And there's a reason they show her

914
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 7: every time she's at a game. It's because they know

915
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 7: they have you. They're trying to get somebody else in

916
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 7: your house to be watching because they know you are

917
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 7: going to keep watching no matter how many times they

918
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 7: show Taylor Swift. It's a little different with Otani because

919
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 7: he's a player, but what Otwanni brought. I just didn't

920
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 7: think the Dodgers could become more popular, and then Otani

921
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 7: came to the Dodgers and it.

922
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: Was like, wow, they can become more popular.

923
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 7: So the Dodgers being part of it is a huge

924
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 7: shot in the arm for Fox. Toronto, I guess is

925
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 7: a big market. I don't know much about it. I've

926
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 7: only been to the airport there and I know it's

927
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 7: a city full of ravines and I used to watch

928
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 7: Degrassy Junior High a lot as a young man, but Toronto.

929
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, he played Jimmy Brooks. He was in a wheelchairs,

930
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: Aubrey he was.

931
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 7: Shot in the Yeah, Degrassi When I was a kid.

932
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 7: First it was called I think de Grassy Street in

933
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 7: the eighties. It was like a Canadian public television show

934
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 7: about young people and they really did go there, like

935
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 7: glue sniffing and sex and everything. And then they had

936
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 7: a Degrassy Junior High. Then they had like de Grassy High,

937
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 7: and then it went away for ten years, and then

938
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 7: it was Degrassi the Next Generation, which had some of

939
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 7: the people from the old shows as adults and the

940
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 7: people that were kids or there kids. And Jimmy Brooks

941
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 7: aka Aubrey Graham aka Drake was yeah on the show

942
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 7: and one of the main characters, and he did get

943
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 7: shot and was in a wheelchair for maybe three or

944
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 7: four seasons. It went for like another twelve or fifteen years.

945
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 7: But sadly, I even have a Degrassy tattoo. Really you don't, yeah, yeah,

946
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 7: I do, really yep.

947
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 2: Really, So basically it was like Saved by the Bell,

948
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: but with the potential of a slut appearing in an episode,

949
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: yeah or death. Okay, now where's the tattoo. I was

950
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: about to ask, where's the location?

951
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 7: If the tattoo is from the first line of the

952
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 7: song for Degrassi the Next Generation?

953
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 3: Can I guess it? Go ahead, whatever it takes.

954
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 7: Correct, But I have three dots after the takes well

955
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 7: that you know there's going to be another I know

956
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 7: I could.

957
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: Make it through. Yeah right, Oh god? Was Drake's character?

958
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 3: Was Drake's character basis? If I do?

959
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 2: Was it based in that show? Was it based off

960
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: Chris from Boys in the Hood? It was in a wheelchair?

961
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 7: Well, he was a basketball player, but he wasn't that

962
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 7: big of a baller.

963
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: You know, it's not like he was. You know, this

964
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: is us against Bannick.

965
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 7: You know, it's Crenchaw high running back being recruited by

966
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 7: USC A little different.

967
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 3: Lynnwood's problem. Who you got I'm gonna go to NFL.

968
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: Who you got as the LA team? And do you

969
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 3: the Raiders?

970
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 7: Hell?

971
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, yeah, true, I live here, I'm here

972
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: my whole life. Bring him back to the Collie's this

973
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: to the face. They certainly are not the team right now.

974
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 7: Boob missiled up and raiderrets in nineteen eighty five.

975
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go Matusac and Alzado and all those like

976
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: I like, I like those. You know, Charlie Garner, Uh

977
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 3: huh oh no, he was shifty Charlie Garner with a

978
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 3: beats on the Yeah. But what team do you have?

979
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 3: Like are you? Is it the Chargers season? Is it

980
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 3: the Rams? They don't care. They look both period. They

981
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 3: both look pretty good.

982
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 7: The Rams are better than the Chargers, I think, But

983
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 7: the Chargers.

984
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 3: Had been beat up. I mean, I feel bad.

985
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 7: We interviewed Rayshawn Slater and then like ten hours later

986
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 7: his leg fell off.

987
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 3: So everybody blames us.

988
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 7: But the Chargers, if they're around, they have healthy tackles.

989
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 7: Those guys are great, Alt and Slater and obviously they're

990
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 7: well coached.

991
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on with their defense.

992
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 7: Their defenses had trouble stopping people, and their defense was

993
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 7: supposed to be really special. And Derwin James and guys

994
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 7: like that, and Justin Herbert, of course, there's always an

995
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 7: argument about him and is he good in the fourth quarter?

996
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 7: And it's Madison beer good for him? They were sitting

997
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 7: next to Bieber at the UH at the Dodger game

998
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 7: two nights ago.

999
00:55:55,320 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 2: She's a she's what good get for him?

1000
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 3: Good. Get for Justin Bieber, No, for Justin Herbert. He did, well,

1001
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 3: she's to hail from the isle ye Lesbos, she did. Yeah,

1002
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: but uh, yeah we had this conversation the last time.

1003
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah we talked about the island. Yes we did.

1004
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 3: Uh where it came from and everything, all of sapphic

1005
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 3: love Let's go. But I do not. I do not.

1006
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 7: Really, I don't adhere to any NFL team. I'm not

1007
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 7: and I was when I was a kid. I loved

1008
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 7: the Chiefs because I loved acoy A, and I loved

1009
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 7: Barry Word and Steve de Bergh.

1010
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not. I'm not a fan of any

1011
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: NFL team.

1012
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 7: I enjoy watching NFL football from time to time, but

1013
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 7: there's a lot of football in my life on Saturdays.

1014
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 7: But I I don't think LA has a team. I

1015
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 7: think the Rams are obviously excellent and really well coached

1016
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 7: by a little tiny guy that sounds like Tony Robbins

1017
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 7: with On Gruden's voice.

1018
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: Huh.

1019
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 7: And McVeigh does an absolute stellar job. I mean, there's

1020
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 7: no doubt about it. And as annoying as Kelly Stafford is,

1021
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 7: you have to give Matt Stafford his props, and you

1022
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 7: have to give Puka Nakua, who we all knew is

1023
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 7: a big recruit for USC, and then he played at

1024
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 7: Washington and then BYU I saw him a bunch of

1025
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 7: college and talked to him. He's a great guy, great kid.

1026
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 7: So you have to give the Rams credit. The Chargers

1027
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 7: are obviously decent. I think that people thinking they were

1028
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 7: a super Bowl team when the year started and they

1029
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 7: beat the Chiefs and all that were maybe a little

1030
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 7: bit premature because the Chiefs now look like the best

1031
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 7: team in football. So and obviously the Colts are really good,

1032
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 7: and they came down here and blew the Chargers' doors off.

1033
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 7: They couldn't stop them. The Chargers just couldn't stop them defensively.

1034
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 7: So I'm not really sure. But as far as what

1035
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 7: people really gravitate for in La adults, it's the Raiders.

1036
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 7: But that being said, the Chargers and the Rams they're here.

1037
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 7: They're not going anywhere. The NFL wants them here. The

1038
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 7: NFL's built a hub for themselves in Inglewood with so Fi.

1039
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 7: They made that rich god build so Fi Kronky, and

1040
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 7: they made him take the Chargers for one dollar a year.

1041
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 7: So everybody got a sweetheart deal there. Because of Kronky,

1042
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 7: and Kronky's deal was, hey, we let you move this

1043
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 7: team out of Saint Louis.

1044
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: So they're not going anywhere.

1045
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 7: So the play for the Chargers and the Rams is

1046
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 7: for our kids. They're not looking for guys like us

1047
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 7: who are either transient. LA is a town of people

1048
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 7: who are transplants, and they're not looking for us to

1049
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 7: buy a Ram shirt or anything like that. They want

1050
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 7: our kids to be into the Ram or the Chargers.

1051
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: Also, wouldn't you think that the Cowboys probably have more

1052
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: of a fan base here than even the Rams of

1053
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: the Chargers do. It's always felt like to me that

1054
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: it was Raiders, Cowboys, and then Rams.

1055
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 3: I think it's fair.

1056
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 7: Fair to argue that. I mean, when I was a

1057
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 7: kid in the eighties, the Rams moved from LA down

1058
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 7: to Orange County, and that made him sort of like

1059
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 7: the Angels to a lot of people. They used to

1060
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 7: be right in LA and when they moved, I think

1061
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 7: it changed a lot of the dynamic the way people

1062
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 7: looked at him. But you're right, I mean you could

1063
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 7: there's bars for any There's Jacksonville Jaguar bars all over

1064
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 7: southern California that people can go and watch a Jaguars

1065
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 7: game because we're an area of transplants and a lot

1066
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 7: of people from out of town.

1067
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: Twenty years there was no NFL team here, so there's

1068
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: right fans of all random teams all around the league

1069
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: in southern California and.

1070
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 3: It's like London. Yeah, it really iss. Hey, you want

1071
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 3: to go to Wembley or something. You know, at least

1072
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 3: LA transplants know what they're looking at. I mean it's

1073
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 3: a little different than your they'd be chair for every

1074
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 3: single thing that have is because they don't. I don't tell.

1075
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: I think they know everything that's going on.

1076
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: I remember as a kid out here, like just to

1077
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: think about the Cowboys because you mentioned, you know, the

1078
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Speaker 2: Chargers and the Rams, the plays for the kids. I

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Speaker 2: remember as a kid the Cowboys were out in Thousand Oaks.

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01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: They had their training camp a Thousand Oaks, and growing up,

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Speaker 2: the youth football team was the Canao Cowboys in the

1082
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: Cano Valley like that was that was just the tea

1083
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: it was.

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Speaker 3: They were at.

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Speaker 7: Kalou and the Kowlou locker room had the giant star

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Speaker 7: on the carpet. Yeah, I've been in there, so yeah,

1087
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Speaker 7: that's part of it, especially where you're from, in Ventura County.

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Speaker 7: And then you have to think the Cowboys, you know,

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Speaker 7: quote unquote America's team, and the fact that they're constantly

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Speaker 7: on television. That's totally understandable and believable, and I think

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Speaker 7: that you'd have a pretty you'd have a pretty good

1092
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 7: argument putting that Mark Twain in the water and seeing

1093
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 7: that there are more Cowboys supporters than maybe Rams or Chargers.

1094
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 7: It doesn't mean those teams aren't making a buttload of

1095
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 7: money and that the stadium's not full. It just might

1096
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 7: not be full of Ram fans or Charger fans. But

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01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 7: either way, I think they're very comfortable with the play

1098
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 7: that football is back in LA. But you're absolutely right.

1099
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 7: La has been a melting pot for football fandom for

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Speaker 7: quite some time.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about this earlier. Petro's pet excuse me,

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Speaker 2: Petros Papadegas with us here on Fox Sports Radio. But

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Speaker 2: we were talking about this earlier. Petros the on November one,

1104
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Speaker 2: this upcoming Saturday, college athletes are going to be allowed

1105
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 2: to gamble on professional sports. Pat n Ardoozy was very

1106
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: critical of it. Greg Sank, the SEC Commissioner, has said,

1107
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 2: what are we doing here? This doesn't make any sense,

1108
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: and we were trying to figure out why, like why

1109
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: this would even be allowed that they couldn't already do

1110
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: it if they found a buddy or somebody in a frat.

1111
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: But what's your best guess as to why now all

1112
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 2: of a sudden jammed in on November first, on a Saturday.

1113
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: They're like, you know what, college athletes go ahead and

1114
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: bet on professional Yeah, listen, don't.

1115
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It's weird. Yeah, the whole thing

1116
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 3: is weird.

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01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 7: It's such a weird kind of diversion from the way

1118
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Speaker 7: that I was quote unquote raised. I didn't go to

1119
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 7: school to be a journalist. I'm certainly not a journalist now,

1120
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Speaker 7: But I didn't go to school to be a broadcaster.

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Speaker 3: Let's just put it like that.

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Speaker 7: I guess I did to a certain degree because at

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Speaker 7: USC I was interviewed a whole bunch and that ended

1124
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 7: up becoming my media career. So I guess I went

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Speaker 7: to school just by being a football player. And in

1126
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 7: that regard, LaVar probably did a thousand times more than

1127
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 7: me because of the level of player he was and

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Speaker 7: how much attention he got. So you could say that

1129
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 7: he had media training without having media training, same with Brady.

1130
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 7: So I guess what I'm saying is the first thing

1131
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 7: I did when I was in the media the people

1132
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 7: that mentored me, is hammer into my head that gambling

1133
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 7: and talking about gambling and being associated with gambling or

1134
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 7: anything like that was radioactive, and that the information I

1135
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 7: had from my coaches meetings and all the different stuff

1136
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Speaker 7: I did was in no way to be disseminated in

1137
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 7: any other way than to be entertaining and to not

1138
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 7: give anybody tips about it. Was very staunch and a

1139
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 7: very very very strong line. And of course Vegas was

1140
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 7: a whole different deal. You could go to Vegas, but

1141
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 7: I know the NFL discouraged their players from going there

1142
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 7: for many many years, even though they couldn't make them

1143
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 7: not go, and you couldn't even bet you and LV

1144
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 7: in town and there was no pro sports. Well, Vegas

1145
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 7: now is not only a pro sports town, but UNLV

1146
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 7: is an up and coming program playing an allegiance not

1147
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 7: even swallowed up by the big stadium like you see

1148
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 7: UCLA or UCF was, or Tulane or Houston was. They've

1149
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 7: all except for UCLA, those schools have moved to smaller

1150
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 7: campus stadiums and thrived. So you look at Vegas and

1151
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 7: it's just a totally different deal. Everybody's taking money from DraftKings,

1152
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 7: including me. You know, if they ask us to read commercials,

1153
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 7: we do it. They pay us or fan duel or whatever.

1154
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 7: The line has become deeply, deeply blurred. So I understand

1155
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 7: why there's more problems and why the touch of a

1156
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 7: button on your phone can get so many young people

1157
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 7: who are athletes in trouble. And I don't think the

1158
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 7: leagues are going to stop take that's already found money,

1159
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 7: right the tens of millions or hundreds of millions of

1160
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 7: dollars they're getting an advertising money. I mean ESPN has

1161
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 7: betting site, Fox does. So the line is really really

1162
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 7: blurry now, and I guess it's going to get more blurry.

1163
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 7: Since we talked about Europe. I mean you could always

1164
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 7: in stadium bet games in Europe. There's kiosks and things

1165
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 7: like that, and I suppose that's the model we're headed towards.

1166
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 7: But it's going to lead to a lot of a

1167
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 7: mucked up situation when it comes to young people and

1168
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 7: athletes and devices and gambling and all that stuff. I

1169
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 7: think we are just hitting the tip of the Iceberg.

1170
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 7: I think the integrity and the credibility of the NBA

1171
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 7: is going to be very much in question as the

1172
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 7: FBI continues to look into this stuff. And I mean,

1173
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 7: the Tim Donnaheath thing probably should have tipped us off

1174
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 7: a long time ago. But I agree that it's weird.

1175
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 7: I don't know other than the fact that everybody's taken

1176
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 7: big advertising money from gambling companies. I don't know why else.

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Speaker 7: It's not like there's a billion people playing college foot ball.

1178
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 7: You can you can prevent these guys from gambling, or

1179
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 7: at least tell them they're not allowed to. And I

1180
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 7: don't think it's going to take a dent out of

1181
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 7: the companies, you.

1182
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?

1183
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 7: So you're right, I don't really understand why other than

1184
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 7: the fact that it's no longer taboo in our society.

1185
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 3: Where does the before let you go?

1186
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: Obviously Brian Kelly the latest casualty Lane Kiffin.

1187
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought Brandy was going to be here and

1188
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 7: we're going to be able to find out how big

1189
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:27,479
Speaker 7: of an.

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01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 3: A hole that guy.

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01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: It's just like it does it does feel like And

1192
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 2: Kirby Smart made the point where he said, look, man,

1193
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: now you know it. All of a sudden, there's more voices,

1194
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: there's more people with influence, and if you're not winning,

1195
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 2: you know, a college football playoff, then all of a

1196
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 2: sudden everything is deemed to be a failure. Is this

1197
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: just are we now venturing into You're no longer going

1198
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 2: to have your Mike Gundy's, your Kirk Farences like this

1199
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: is going to be basically similar to the NFL, to

1200
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: where it's going to be two three years and done.

1201
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: And if you don't produce your out in college football,

1202
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: That's what it feels like.

1203
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 7: I can't speak to the Franklin situation, obviously, the var

1204
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 7: is very close to that. And I didn't I mean

1205
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 7: I didn't know him personally. We dealt with the team

1206
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 7: a few times and didn't feel warm and fuzzy. Let's

1207
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 7: just put it like that, and that's okay, But it

1208
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 7: seems like and when it comes to Brian Kelly, if

1209
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 7: you rub people the wrong way.

1210
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 3: And you come off like a bad guy.

1211
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 7: Somebody's gonna come and buy you out the second that

1212
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 7: they are allowed to. It seems like that now and

1213
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 7: building equity within a program, being a nicer guy, being

1214
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 7: more of a mentor to young people. Does that help you,

1215
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 7: Probably a little bit. But if you're a guy like

1216
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 7: Brian Kelly and you start to slip at a place

1217
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 7: like LSU, and obviously that's very unique, but they're gonna

1218
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 7: come and get you. And if you're an a hole,

1219
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 7: they're probably going to come and get you a few

1220
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 7: weeks before they normally would have. But you're absolutely right, Jonas.

1221
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 7: The dynamic of the college football playoff I believe changes

1222
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 7: a lot of things to where if they know in

1223
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 7: October or September that you're not going to make the

1224
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 7: playoff and they have somebody willing to buy you out,

1225
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 7: which seems like that, but that's not very different than

1226
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 7: it's always been the buyout thing. It's I mean, there's

1227
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 7: a reason Lane Kiffin got fired on a tarmac at USC.

1228
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 7: Why would anybody do that other than the fact that

1229
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 7: a booster made you do it. If you need to

1230
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 7: fire him, fine fire him the next day. He's the

1231
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 7: USC football coach. He didn't break any laws, he's.

1232
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 3: Not a criminal. He lost, Yeah you don't.

1233
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't have to fire him on the tarmac

1234
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 7: and never let him back in the building. They created

1235
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 7: this whole mythology of mismanagement just because a booster, and

1236
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 7: I know who it was, told him to do it.

1237
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 7: And that's not in the era of the twelve team playoff.

1238
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 3: Or anything like that.

1239
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 7: That was just them losing a bad game at Arizona

1240
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 7: State to Todd Graham and giving up fifty five points.

1241
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 7: So it's always been the case where if a booster

1242
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 7: gets pissed and it's somebody who gives tens of millions

1243
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 7: or one hundred million dollars to the school, then they're

1244
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 7: gonna probably do what the guy says or a lady,

1245
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 7: And that's not changed that much. Maybe it's a little

1246
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 7: more prevalent, like Kirby Smart said, but I think it

1247
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 7: has more to do with the playoff, And I also

1248
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 7: think it has to do like it used to be

1249
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 7: in recruiting, you'd have to think like three years in

1250
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 7: advance about your offensive line. You'd have to think about

1251
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 7: make sure your defensive backfield was shored up with high

1252
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 7: school kids and people like that. Maybe some JC guys

1253
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 7: was the route that you wanted to take if you

1254
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 7: needed a quick fix, and that's not the case anymore.

1255
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 7: With the transfer portal, you can shore up your whole

1256
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 7: team if you do it right in a one off season.

1257
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 7: So what guys like Kirk Signetti have done, it's the

1258
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 7: unthinkable at a place like Indiana that they could just

1259
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, as a football mausoleum, stand up

1260
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 7: and become one of the best teams in the country,

1261
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 7: if not the best, and dominate people and destroy lesser

1262
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 7: teams and show no mercy in Indiana. If Signetti can

1263
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 7: do that, then what kind of excuse does Lincoln Riley

1264
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 7: or guy like that have who's been somewhere for four

1265
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 7: or five years and is still mediocre. So people see

1266
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 7: that and with the portal and what you can do,

1267
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:35,480
Speaker 7: and they'll pull the trigger.

1268
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 3: On you faster.

1269
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,879
Speaker 7: So there are reasons, and I feel bad for assistant

1270
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 7: coaches and families. I don't feel bad for these head coaches,

1271
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 7: correct they get I agree, yeah, they make one hundred

1272
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 7: million dollars and then everybody feels bad for them. I

1273
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 7: don't care. I care about the assistants and their families.

1274
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 7: Of course, that's the life they've chosen that, not the families,

1275
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 7: but the assistants, And I do care. That's a terrible

1276
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 7: part of this. But other than that, I'm not going

1277
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 7: to sit here and play a violin for people like

1278
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 7: Brian Kelly. Forget it, who cares?

1279
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: Petros popinak is. He is the co host of the

1280
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,640
Speaker 2: Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on at

1281
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 2: the Blowtorch AM five to seventy LA Sports Fox College

1282
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: football Analyst.

1283
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,839
Speaker 3: By the way, which game you got this weekend? Petros,

1284
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 3: I'm not good enough to work this weekend. Oh there's

1285
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 3: my Degrassi song.

1286
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 7: But next weekend I have a What I'm having because

1287
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 7: of the baseball is a lot of weeks off and

1288
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 7: then double up, double up, week off, double up, double up.

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Speaker 3: You know that's the way the year is going to be.

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Speaker 7: So next week I have I'm going to Orlando, where

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Speaker 7: I've never been, to see UCF play Houston, one of

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Speaker 7: the best teams in the Big twelve. Houston's a lot

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Speaker 7: of fun under Willie Fritz. And then I'll come home

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Speaker 7: and do a UNLV Colorado State. So I got that

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Speaker 7: going for me.

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Speaker 3: And then.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then the Dodgers, you know, we have all that,

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Speaker 7: and then not only that, but my colleagues are going

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Speaker 7: to take over for at six o'clock. That's still going scam, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: Sax and Kate's in.

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Speaker 3: The am the Great Tim Kats.

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Speaker 7: Very exciting morning Dodger programming on AM five seventy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very exciting morning programming right now. Papadas.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's not just solely Dodger program No, it's

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Speaker 7: not right. So you guys aren't just folks. But if

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Speaker 7: people want the Dodgers, pure Dodger focused, you could or

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Speaker 7: there is there is a workaround nationally on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 7: app on the Clippers feed you could hear it.

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Speaker 3: Other than that, it's Dan Patrick.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, Pat Jaguars, we will love we will

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Speaker 2: do it again next week. There he is, the Great

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Speaker 2: Patrick's papadas with us here sounds horrible though, it's

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Speaker 3: You guys, don't know, being the best