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Speaker 3: Good morning everyone, Good morning.

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Speaker 4: How goes it doing?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 6: Emily? Are you doing air traffic control this morning? Are

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Speaker 6: you saving the planes?

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Speaker 7: I am.

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Speaker 8: There's so much exhaustion with the FAA that I'm here

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Speaker 8: to help now. I'm in the White House basement under

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Speaker 8: the press briefing room because I'm a new media pool

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Speaker 8: today for the Trump Zoron meeting, so I'll be there

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Speaker 8: for all of the highlights.

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Speaker 9: You have to ask whether or not Trump approves of

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Speaker 9: my Donnie's plan to require New York City children to

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Speaker 9: learn Arabic numerals.

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Speaker 6: You have?

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Speaker 10: This is you have to ask. People need to know this,

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Speaker 10: they do.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's right, He's absolutely right. Ryan's such a

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Speaker 8: I'm going to ask if he supports the full burkover

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Speaker 8: the Statue of Liberty, why don't yea?

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Speaker 2: Why eighty of young women prefer to real law to

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Speaker 2: the Republican Party?

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Speaker 10: And what's wrong? What's wrong with Roman numerals?

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Speaker 9: Like you know, the Judeo Christian civilization is sourced out

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Speaker 9: of out of Rome. According to Ben Shapiro's latest book,

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Speaker 9: why are we not teaching Roman numerals?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you guys have given me so much to work with.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, take take notes, ou take notes. Don't forget these.

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Speaker 9: Oh and tell tell him, tell him that, tell him

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Speaker 9: that we just got eighteen thousand more emails from Jeffrey

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Speaker 9: Epstein's Yahoo Inbox shout out to Distributed Denial of Secrets

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Speaker 9: d DOS is the same nonprofit whistleblower site that got

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Speaker 9: Ahood Barocks email.

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Speaker 10: Oh wow, shared that with us.

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Speaker 9: Now they got this is Yahoo inbox and they've given

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Speaker 9: us access to that as of yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yu, have you started searching through Have you had a

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Speaker 2: chance to work with it at all, Yes.

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Speaker 9: A little bit, And we put a couple of pieces

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Speaker 9: from it in our story that just went up this

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Speaker 9: morning about Epstein and Bannon and Modying's relationship with India.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot in there. Interestingly, you see some emails

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Speaker 9: being forwarded in twenty twenty, so after he died, so

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Speaker 9: clearly somebody from his estate or somebody was like monky

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Speaker 9: with it. Now, you can't fabricate emails to like, you

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Speaker 9: can't go back in time and make up new emails.

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Speaker 9: But I would suspect that some of the best stuff

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Speaker 9: to us. Bloomberg got a copy version of this a

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Speaker 9: while ago and did a couple of stories out of it,

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Speaker 9: but they never published the emails, and they never made

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Speaker 9: much of a public as possible.

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Speaker 10: If you guys want to like.

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Speaker 9: Search around in it, let me know and I'll figure

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Speaker 9: out way to get your access to it. We're going

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Speaker 9: working on that. Yeah, see what Trump thinks of that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that one I would actually like to see his

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Speaker 2: reaction to us their eighteen thousand new Epstein emails just

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Speaker 2: dropped your reaction. What do you expect people are going

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Speaker 11: Just get called a pig.

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Speaker 6: I know I was going to say you were asking

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, well we're gonna after making sure Emily

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Speaker 2: Pearson Often in Baine. So they're both running in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Often is running in a special election that is actually happening,

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Speaker 2: pull off the unthinkable. Here aften is. You know, she's

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Speaker 2: She's really foregrounded affordability in terms of her campaign. Interestingly, though,

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Speaker 4: Being the right to say. So we'll ask her all

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Speaker 2: And then Justin Pearson, you guys may remember him as

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Speaker 2: being part of the quote unquote Tennessee three kicked down.

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Speaker 4: He is a state rep.

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Speaker 2: Kicked down of the legislature because of this protest against

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Speaker 2: gun violence. He is now challenging Steve Cohen, who is

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Speaker 2: an incumbent, very pro Israel incumbent Democrat representing Memphis and

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Speaker 2: He's back by the Justice Democrats challenging him from the left.

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Speaker 2: I really, you know, admire what his you know, the

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Speaker 2: the way he stood for his value. So I'm really

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Speaker 2: to think that's a primary where he's got a decent shot.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's one of those where there is a

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Speaker 2: real mismatch between Cohen and the district, and especially with

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Speaker 2: such a schism between the base and Democratic Party elite.

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Speaker 2: So I just talked to the Justice Democrats to two

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Speaker 2: this is one that they're in full force behind. So

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Speaker 2: excited to talk to him as well.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and color show.

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Speaker 8: Well, I was just going to say, Ryan, you probably

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Speaker 8: covered Cohen a lot. He's one of the weirdest members

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Speaker 10: He is in colorful in often a delightful way.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, true.

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Speaker 9: I covered when he was first elected there was this

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Speaker 11: Because I forgot about that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he argued, uh, and I covered this meeting and everything.

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Speaker 9: He argued that he represents a black district, a majority

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Speaker 9: the Are we representing the people? Who cares what color

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Speaker 9: I am? I'm representing a majority black district. You should

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Speaker 9: not disenfranchise all of my constituents from this block inside

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Speaker 10: I thought he had a fair argument. He did not.

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Speaker 10: He did not prevail on that.

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Speaker 9: They then tried the the the kind of black establishment

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Speaker 9: kind of black primary to say, like, if we have

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Speaker 9: more than one candidate challenging him, it's going to split

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Speaker 9: the vote and he's going to win easily. And so

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Speaker 9: the establishment there rallied behind one candidate and he crushed

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Speaker 9: her and they haven't tried since. So that was a

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Speaker 6: Well, he's calling this race his personal pearl harbor, So

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Speaker 6: we're excited to dive into all the and more.

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Speaker 10: Maybe we should get him on he's.

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Speaker 4: Like character dealings with him as well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, well stay tuned for a future Friday show,

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Speaker 6: mister Cohen. You know, we got a lot of other

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Speaker 6: news stories, but let's start with a little bit of

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Speaker 6: death sedition. Donald Trup Donald Trump posted some truth. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: he did a truth. He posted a truth on truth

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Speaker 6: Social where he says, seditious behavior punishable by death. And

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Speaker 6: I saw this first and I had no idea what

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Speaker 6: it was referring to, but I realized after doing some research,

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Speaker 6: it's referring to our friend Alyssa Slotkin in a video

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Speaker 6: that she made if I'm.

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Speaker 2: Correct right her and others, Senator Mark Kelly, the what's

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Speaker 2: his name out of Pennsylvania, interesting populist guy. Anyway, it's

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Speaker 2: a number of Democrats who either have military or intelligence

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Speaker 2: in the case of Melissa Slotkin backgrounds who made this

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Speaker 2: video saying effectively like, listen to our service members out there,

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Speaker 2: you are not obligated. In fact, you have responsibility not

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Speaker 2: to follow unlawful orders. You want to go ahead and

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Speaker 2: play that griff.

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Speaker 10: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm Senator Alissa Slackin, Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chris Deluzio,

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Speaker 1: Representative Chrissy Hulahan, Congressman Jason Crow.

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Speaker 12: I was a captain in the United States.

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Speaker 4: Navy, former CIA officer, former Navy, former paratrooper and Army ranger.

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Speaker 13: Former intelligence officer, former Air Force.

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Speaker 12: We want to speak directly to members of the military.

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Speaker 1: And the intelligence community to take risks each day to

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Speaker 3: We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.

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Speaker 3: Americans trust their military with us as at risk.

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Speaker 12: This administration is pitting our uniform military.

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Speaker 1: And intelligence community professionals against American citizens like us.

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Speaker 12: You all swore an oath to protect any in this constitution.

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Speaker 5: Right now, the threats to our constitution aren't just coming

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Speaker 12: Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. You

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Speaker 12: can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 10: You must refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 2: No one has to carry out orders that violate the

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Speaker 12: We know this is hard and that it's a difficult

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Speaker 12: time to be a public servant.

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Speaker 4: But whether you're serving in the CIA, the Army, or Navy,

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Speaker 4: the Air Force, your vigilance is critical.

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Speaker 12: And know that we have your back because now more

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Speaker 13: The American people need you.

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Speaker 12: We need you to stand up for our laws, our constitution,

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Speaker 12: and who we are as Americans.

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Speaker 2: So this is interesting to me on a number of levels.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I mean Mark Kelly Alyssa's lockin. People

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Speaker 2: will probably be familiar with them, in particular as United

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Speaker 2: State senators like these are not you know, these are

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Speaker 2: not radicals.

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Speaker 4: This is very centristy.

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Speaker 2: You know, these are the National Security Dems, and so

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Speaker 2: you know, to put out this video I thought was

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Speaker 2: actually very savvy and sort of like almost something that

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Speaker 2: and then they can point to the video and say

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Speaker 2: this is just literally the constitution, like this is just

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Speaker 2: pointing out that you are not obligated to follow unlawful orders,

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Speaker 2: and in fact, you are obligated to not follow those

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Speaker 5: Two questions we were talking about four earlier in this

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Speaker 5: So the first question is, no matter what the order is,

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Speaker 13: Regardless of any any outside thinking.

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Speaker 14: Ran the President expects his cabinet officials in the administration

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Speaker 14: And I think that's quite telling. I'm gonna let you

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Speaker 2: Excuse me so, Emily or Ryan, you guys need to

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Speaker 8: I do think Slockin and Kelly and Centrist Democrats in general,

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Speaker 10: It just Caribbean, yeah or yeah.

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Speaker 8: Way to jump into all of this from people who

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Speaker 8: they're like all for regime change in Venezuela as well.

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Speaker 8: I mean Slackin's literally Cia. So I just am cynical

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's kind of funny to see slock and

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Speaker 9: Well, that's where the National Security Democrats really are. You

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Speaker 11: He said the craziest.

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Speaker 9: Stuff, do not commit crimes please, And Trump's like, how

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Speaker 10: No, Trump is like just saying, find that very telling?

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Speaker 2: Come out and say, like you can follow the orders

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that in a different era they

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Speaker 2: that's not our place. That's too far over the line.

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Speaker 2: And this comes shortly on the heels of him talking about, oh,

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Speaker 9: That's a good point and it should be seen with

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Speaker 9: If you're going through these files, you're deleting things, you're

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Speaker 8: So what's interesting about this? And actually really sad about

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Speaker 2: I assume it means I'm not sure Griffin either. My

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Speaker 2: you know, are are they going to like are they

443
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Speaker 2: going to protect me? Are they going to save their

444
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Speaker 2: own asses? So I think that's part of why this

445
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Speaker 2: video lands in a particular way right now. And interestingly

446
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Speaker 2: from that report I was mentioning earlier about the you know,

447
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Speaker 2: the nonprofits that do this kind of legal work and

448
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: legal advice to service members. They said us actually mostly

449
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Speaker 2: people who are higher up in the chain of command

450
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Speaker 2: who are reaching out to them because they have enough

451
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Speaker 2: insight to the system to know that the normal legal

452
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Speaker 2: checks that exist, to the extent that they ever do,

453
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Speaker 2: are not being followed, a bunch of JAG officers, a

454
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Speaker 2: bunch of internal military lawyers were fired. So they're the

455
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Speaker 2: ones who are like, hey, I'm not so sure about this.

456
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Speaker 2: The rank and file, you know, enlisted men and women,

457
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: are not questioning as much because they just still have

458
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: this sort of like naive faith that well, if I'm

459
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Speaker 2: being told to do this, it must have gone it

460
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Speaker 2: must be approved, it must have gone through the proper checks.

461
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Speaker 2: So in any case, I think the fact that people

462
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Speaker 2: are starting to imagine what the post Trump world is

463
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Speaker 2: going to look like it's another reason why they're starting

464
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Speaker 2: to take more seriously their legal responsibilities and potentially illegal

465
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Speaker 2: or criminal actions.

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Speaker 8: I think the OLC memom that we were just talking

467
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Speaker 8: about is a sign. Well, I mean, they apparently drafted

468
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Speaker 8: it before those strikes started, no surprise there, But I

469
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Speaker 8: think the leaks about it suggest, you know, this administration

470
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Speaker 8: hasn't made a lot of this stuff public and has

471
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Speaker 8: basically just been saying screw you to questions about the

472
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Speaker 8: legal justification for all of their response. The Penton's response

473
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Speaker 8: is literally just the President's following the law, or we're

474
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Speaker 8: following the law. We're taking all steps to comply with

475
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Speaker 8: the law, but I think that is some of the

476
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Speaker 8: leaks suggest that their concerns internally about people's asses being

477
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Speaker 8: covered in the future if prosecutions came down the line. Now, honestly,

478
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Speaker 8: having read a lot of the coverage of it and

479
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 8: looked at the memo, I just think our war powers

480
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Speaker 8: are so broad that anybody involved will probably be fine.

481
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Speaker 8: And I think that's wrong, and our war power shouldn't

482
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Speaker 8: be that broad. And I think a lot of people

483
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Speaker 8: in the MAGA coal I shouldn't think our war powers shouldn't

484
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Speaker 8: be that broad, but will. But are just you know,

485
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 8: looking the other way on this one. But it's it's

486
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Speaker 8: a sign I think internally that there's discomfort.

487
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Speaker 15: Are coming out against Ryan.

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Speaker 9: It's just hard to see how a boat with even

489
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Speaker 9: if the boat has like a handgun or an assault rifle

490
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Speaker 9: on it, like how a boat off the coast of

491
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Speaker 9: Venezuela can lausibly be read as a as a military

492
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Speaker 9: threat to the United States. So, yeah, I agree with

493
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Speaker 9: you that, like, we don't have a system that ever

494
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Speaker 9: is going to prosecute anybody for anything like That's probably true,

495
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Speaker 9: But if a prosecutor did try, I feel like it

496
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Speaker 9: would be pretty straightforward that we have not declared, like

497
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Speaker 9: declared war on what like boats, boats would enough to

498
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Speaker 9: make yeah, so.

499
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Speaker 8: Well yeah, But the argument that they make is that

500
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Speaker 8: because the boats are carrying drugs and the drugs are

501
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Speaker 8: intended to give profits back to that would be used

502
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Speaker 8: on military equipment.

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Speaker 9: That's literally Accordingly, they have no idea that that's true.

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Speaker 10: None.

505
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Speaker 8: Well, they haven't prosecuted any of the survivors of these strikes,

506
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Speaker 8: haven't been.

507
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Speaker 15: Prosecuted for charactory.

508
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Speaker 10: They're completely making that up.

509
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Speaker 9: It's also it's not true, like as a sag and

510
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Speaker 9: I reported Venezuela and they're diplomats have made clear to

511
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Speaker 9: the US, we don't fund our military but with drugs.

512
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Speaker 9: We fund it with oil and other minerals. Like we're

513
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Speaker 9: very open about the whole reason that you want to

514
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Speaker 9: like bomb us and do regime change is because of

515
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Speaker 9: the wealth that we have from the oil and the minerals.

516
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Speaker 9: That's where our money comes or is under the ground.

517
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Speaker 9: So if somebody, if somebody, let's say, you kill somebody

518
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Speaker 9: and your claim is, well, those drugs, the profits from

519
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Speaker 9: those drugs were going back to a military that we're

520
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Speaker 9: not even at war with, like set that aside, like

521
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Speaker 9: what what military are we even even at war with?

522
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Speaker 9: What terror group is connected to al Qaeda? Because you

523
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Speaker 9: have to have a connection to al Qaeda in order

524
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Speaker 9: for the AUMF to work. Setting that aside, how do

525
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Speaker 9: you know where those profits are going? You saw a

526
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Speaker 9: boat leave, It looked to you like it was a

527
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Speaker 9: drug boat and you bombed it. You don't know what

528
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Speaker 9: organization that boat was with, whether it was a one

529
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Speaker 9: off with it, Like you don't, you don't, you don't know,

530
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Speaker 9: like where that money is moving if you do go

531
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Speaker 9: rest those people, like I don't think in a court

532
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Speaker 9: if a person said, well I was worried that this

533
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Speaker 9: money was going to go to finance ex terror organization

534
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Speaker 9: like okay, which one. So you can't just walk down

535
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Speaker 9: the street and kill people and say that you thought

536
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Speaker 9: that the people's money might eventually be used for something

537
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 9: that you say is illegal, Like that's not a permissible

538
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 9: reason to execute people. So that's why I think you

539
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 9: could actually make the case. I agree with you that no,

540
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Speaker 9: in no universe does that ever happen in our country.

541
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Speaker 6: Ryan, But we got to move to eyes with My

542
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 6: question for you is do these Senate Dems who are saying,

543
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Speaker 6: don't break the law. Have they spoken out about regime

544
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Speaker 6: change in Venezuela.

545
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Speaker 9: Because a decent number of a decent no, because they're

546
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Speaker 9: being pressured by progressive, you know, anti war groups they've

547
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 9: been reluctant to, but an increasing number have h have reluctantly,

548
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 9: and you can see the reluctance in their statements and

549
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 9: in their comments come out and said, Okay, we shouldn't

550
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Speaker 9: do this.

551
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well that's a win for progressive anti war groups.

552
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Speaker 10: Share.

553
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Speaker 2: I don't care what's in their heart, like in the

554
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: right things. I appreciate that. Yeah, let's talk about some

555
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: of what's going on in Chicago, because I followed this

556
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: story and I suspect a lot of other people did

557
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: very closely. There was a woman who was a local

558
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: activist Chicago activist against ice and Border Patrol, and there

559
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: was an incident that occurred. There was some sort of

560
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: a vehicle incident that occurred. She ended up shot five

561
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Speaker 2: times with seven bullet holes in her, which apparently the

562
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: guy who did it, the CBP agent who did it,

563
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: was very proud of and was bragging to his buddies

564
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: about what a great marksman he was. Look at all

565
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: the holes I put in her body. He texted to

566
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Speaker 2: some of his buddies, and immediately the story the government

567
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: is telling diverges from the emerging facts. Okay, So their

568
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: initial story is that she crashed into them and they

569
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Speaker 2: had to protect themselves, and that she had a semi

570
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Speaker 2: automatic weapon, and so that's why they were justified in

571
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: shooting this woman. Chicago resident five times, American citizen, Chicago resident,

572
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: known local activists five times. Okay, So then that's their

573
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: of initial story. When they actually filed charges against her,

574
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: already the story has changed.

575
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: Okay.

576
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: We find out that the place where they said that

577
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: she was after the accident was not was not correct.

578
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: We find out no longer they mentioning the gun. Previously,

579
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Speaker 2: they'd said there were all these cars that had blocked

580
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Speaker 2: them in and they couldn't escape, and that was part

581
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: of why, you know, they had to defend themselves in

582
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Speaker 2: this way and they had to fire on her. Now

583
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: we just have her and one other guy, whose mom,

584
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: by the way, is out there saying like he's not

585
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: even an activist. He just was literally driving his car

586
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: in wrong place, wrong time.

587
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 4: Okay.

588
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: So the story the government is telling and the story

589
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: that they are now telling in the indictment totally diverge.

590
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 2: Then you have the lawyer for this woman, the one

591
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: who got shot five times, saying, this is not what

592
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 2: happened at all. In fact, we have viewed body camera

593
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: video that shows they crashed into her, and then they

594
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: said they said something provoked. I can't remember what they said,

595
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: like right before the CBP officer fired on her, like

596
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: take that bitch or something was something like that, right,

597
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: showing a you know, real intent that there was no

598
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: indication that she had threatened them whatsoever, and other various

599
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: parts of the story.

600
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: Fell apart, fell apart.

601
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Speaker 2: Then these text messages where he's texting with his buddies

602
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: and bragging about what he had done here, then those

603
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: come out. Then the vehicle that was involved in this,

604
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: they're the CBP vehicle they like took from Chicago and

605
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: took it away from the scene like it seeming to

606
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: conceal the evidence. Okay, but they're still persisting in these

607
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: charges against her that she was a violent threat, et cetera. Well,

608
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: now they have just completely and totally dropped the charges.

609
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: They have dropped the charges against this woman, and the

610
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: lawyer is indicating that there was additional body camera and

611
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: footage that was going to come out, and additional text

612
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: messages coming from this guy who shot at her. So

613
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: now they're saying she didn't I mean, they're not pressing

614
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: charge against her at all. And again they have body

615
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: camera footage, so if she did something wrong, the government

616
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: would really be able to prove it, and the government

617
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: has a lot of advantages in these situations anyway. So

618
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: it increasingly looks like they just straight up tried to

619
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: kill this lady, and you know, allegedly, that's really what

620
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: it looks like at this point. If she did nothing

621
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: wrong that they can charge, and they have this video evidence,

622
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: and they're just letting her go, Like what other conclusion

623
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: are we supposed to come to here? She was a

624
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: known local activist, you know, they had it out for her.

625
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: And there are other instances that we now know where

626
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: they sort of incited these sorts of accident and sort

627
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: of been caught on video that they've been called out

628
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: in other trials. So this is a completely completely insane

629
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: situation here, and I think shows you the level of chaos, lawlessness,

630
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: and outright violence that communities have been subjected to by

631
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: these you know, by these thugs that have been unleashed

632
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: with our taxpayer dollars on American streets.

633
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 6: There was another story I saw that there was a

634
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 6: child predator sting and one of the members was an

635
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 6: ICE employee, and when they arrested him, he was like, Hey,

636
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 6: don't worry, guys, I'm Ice, Like, as if that was

637
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 6: going to like let them lose.

638
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: Don't care you're arrested anyway, which kudos to them.

639
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, but how many times did they not arrest someone

640
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 6: when they said no worm Ice? You know, that's the

641
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 6: other question.

642
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, this is I mean, it's hard to find a

643
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 9: more egregious case than this because they very nearly and

644
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 9: tried to kill the woman. Like you shoot somebody five

645
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 9: times and brag about hitting them, putting seven holes in them,

646
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 9: and you're that much of a sociopath that you brag

647
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 9: about it. This is another human this is a human being,

648
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 9: this is a fellow American. It's hard to get more

649
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 9: egregious than that. Yet, we are seeing across the country

650
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 9: judges just starting to lose it. On the Department of

651
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 9: Homeland Security and on the prosecutors. You're seeing more and

652
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 9: more filings coming out for rulings coming out from judges

653
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 9: where they are indicating that they have been just flat out,

654
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 9: straight up lied to. Now, the idea that some police

655
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 9: lie is you know, judges are familiar with that. So

656
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 9: imagine what it takes for these judges to be as

657
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 9: outraged as they are because they're used to like the

658
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 9: little white lives you know, from a lot of police

659
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 9: officers in the courtroom.

660
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Speaker 10: This stuff is just completely backwards.

661
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Speaker 9: Stuff like their car rammed into us, and so that's

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Speaker 9: why we either shot at them or beat them or

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Speaker 9: arrested them. You see the video footage. It was dhs

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Speaker 9: that actually rammed into them. So many examples of that.

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Speaker 9: A case that came out yesterday that they were basically,

666
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Speaker 9: you know, tapping their brakes so that there would be

667
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Speaker 9: a car accident so that they could then start on.

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Speaker 2: Them driving erratically and doing brake checks to try to

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Speaker 2: cause an accident in order to justify use of force.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, saying that they saying that they were hit by

671
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Speaker 9: a two by four with nails in it turned out

672
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Speaker 9: it was carboard with nothing in it. Saying that somebody

673
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Speaker 9: ripped somebody's beard off, didn't happen, Saying that she was.

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Speaker 8: Also a license to conceal carry, So she was perfectly

675
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Speaker 8: the gun was in her ant bag, was perfectly legal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and never and she never did any she'd never

677
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Speaker 2: even reached for it. I mean yeah, and they just

678
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Speaker 2: invented initially. Remember it was like this, you know, send

679
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Speaker 2: me automatic weapon that she was threatening them with. And

680
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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, just like Griffin. Can you pull

681
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Speaker 2: up this thread from Aaron Riceland Melnick that has a

682
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Speaker 2: bunch of the examples here. This is from Judge Ellis,

683
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Speaker 2: who he describes as the first federal judge to review

684
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Speaker 2: extensive bodycam footage of DHS's actions in Chicago, and she's

685
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Speaker 2: the one who required them all, including Bovino, to wear

686
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Speaker 2: bodycam footage. And a lot of the lies are not

687
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Speaker 2: not that it's excusable from like the rank and file either,

688
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Speaker 2: but quite a number of them come directly from Bovino

689
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Speaker 2: because he's not only running the operation, he is also

690
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Speaker 2: on the ground, like doing some of the actions and assaulting,

691
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Speaker 2: especially some of the protesters. So he's got a number

692
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Speaker 2: of the examples here. First, he says, she finds DHS

693
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Speaker 2: repeatedly misled the public. I'll go through some of the

694
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Speaker 2: most egregious ones here. He says that she finds Chief

695
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Speaker 2: Bovino gave not credible testimony, stating he appeared evasive over

696
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Speaker 2: the three days of his depth of vision deposition, either

697
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: providing cute responses or outright line. On October twenty eighth,

698
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Speaker 2: DHS claimed day's earlier rioters had shot at agents with

699
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Speaker 2: commercial artillery shell fireworks, forcing agents to deploy teargas and

700
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Speaker 2: riot munitions. Oh, it turns out the explosions where DHS's

701
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Speaker 2: own flashbangs. DHS claimed agents were forced to use riot

702
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Speaker 2: munitions to disperse an unruly mob.

703
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Speaker 4: In fact, the scene was.

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Speaker 2: Quiet and then almost immediately and without warning, agents love

705
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Speaker 2: flash ban grenades, tear gas, pepperballs, stating fuck yeah as

706
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Speaker 2: they do so. On September twenty sixth, a DHS officer

707
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Speaker 2: claimed they were forced to deploy riot munitions because protesters

708
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 2: were becoming increasingly hostile. In fact, the BWC video shows

709
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: protesters were simply standing there when agents first deployed any force.

710
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Speaker 2: DHS claimed an incident on October third showed agents were

711
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Speaker 2: in danger of being rammed. This is the one Ryan

712
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Speaker 2: was referring to. In fact, body cam suggests the agent

713
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 2: drove erradically and break checked other motorists in an attempt

714
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Speaker 2: to force accidents that agents could then use as justification

715
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: for deploying force. She says all these errors add up

716
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: at some point it becomes difficult, if not impossible, to

717
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Speaker 2: believe almost anything DHS represents. For example, a top officer

718
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: testified protesters had shields with nails in them, except there

719
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Speaker 2: were no nails and mostly it was cardboard. In another incident,

720
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Speaker 2: DHS officers wrote that protesters had thrown a bike at

721
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Speaker 2: federal agents. I remember the DHSS twitter account really publicized

722
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Speaker 2: this one as like, oh my god, look at this

723
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Speaker 2: violence were subjected to. In fact, it was the agents

724
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Speaker 2: themselves that actually took a protester's bike and threw it

725
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Speaker 2: to the side. In another example that was not backed

726
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Speaker 2: up by evidence, the head of ICE's eerro's Chicago field

727
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: office testified a protester had ripped a beard off an

728
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Speaker 2: agent's face and broken part of ICE's building. There was

729
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Speaker 2: zero evidence to back that up. And there are more here,

730
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Speaker 2: including the use of chat GPTU to help fill out

731
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Speaker 2: a report and create a credible narrative. So just you know, typically,

732
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Speaker 2: even though yes, we all know that cops lie, that

733
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Speaker 2: it's not anything new, but the level of consistent lies

734
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Speaker 2: and deception all the way to the top here is

735
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Speaker 2: so extraordinary that this judge is just like beside herself,

736
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Speaker 2: how can you trust a word that any of these

737
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Speaker 2: people say. I mean, we got gas lit on that

738
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Speaker 2: thing that I was tweeting about the video where they

739
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Speaker 2: literally popper sprayed into a car that had a one

740
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Speaker 2: year old that just had to happen to be driving

741
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Speaker 2: in the other direction American citizens, and they had the

742
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Speaker 2: goll to be like, we would never popper spray a child.

743
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Speaker 2: It's like, we can all watch the video. It's in

744
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Speaker 2: the tweet that your quote tweet, like it's right there

745
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Speaker 2: for all of us to see. I don't even know

746
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Speaker 2: what to say about this. But now they're in Charlotte

747
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: there had it to New Orleans as well with this,

748
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Speaker 2: you know, ragn of terror campaign, bunch of untrained buffoons

749
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Speaker 2: who don't know what they're doing, and her are just

750
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Speaker 2: out looking for violence apparently.

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Speaker 8: Well, one of the ways that I look at this,

752
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Speaker 8: somebody who like I do, I do disagree with you

753
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Speaker 8: guys on the amount of deportations that have to happen.

754
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Speaker 8: But when I look at this and and I think

755
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Speaker 8: should be able to happen without people obstructing unduly and

756
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Speaker 8: all of that, And I think that was going to

757
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Speaker 8: be a challenge no matter what. But this is causing

758
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Speaker 8: like I'm genuinely surprised that there hasn't been even more

759
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Speaker 8: actually that there haven't been people who have who have

760
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Speaker 8: been killed in like pretty high numbers, because this is

761
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Speaker 8: causing really this like theater is I think causing a

762
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Speaker 8: lot of difficulties that are actually going to make it

763
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Speaker 8: harder for them at some point to like get genuine criminals,

764
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Speaker 8: that's what they say.

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Speaker 11: They want to start with the worst or the worst.

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Speaker 8: Getting you know, people with genuine criminal backgrounds out of

767
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Speaker 8: the country is going to be a lot harder when

768
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Speaker 8: your mode of operation is primarily this like really really

769
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Speaker 8: theatrical approach where it's like intentionally genming up clashes and

770
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Speaker 8: the putting those out on social media for example. The

771
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Speaker 8: temperature is just being raised to crazy high levels. So

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Speaker 8: it's yeah, it's I actually think it's amazing that more

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Speaker 8: people have not been seriously hurt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I also don't think it's an accident that they,

775
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Speaker 2: you know, left Chicago in this moment, because there were

776
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Speaker 2: more there was more and more legal scrutiny of their

777
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Speaker 2: actions and this judge alas had been this there were

778
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Speaker 2: a number of judges that were rebuking them and limiting

779
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Speaker 2: the scope of what they were able to do. There's

780
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Speaker 2: also a consent decree in place already in the Chicago

781
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Speaker 2: area that you know, provided a few more tools to

782
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Speaker 2: you know, for the justice system to work there. So

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Speaker 2: I think that may be part of why they moved

784
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Speaker 2: on to other cities, because their use of tear guests

785
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 2: had already been rained in this judge had already ordered

786
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Speaker 2: Bavino and every other agent to have body cameras on

787
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Speaker 2: so that you could come out with some this so

788
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: of litany of the distance between what they're saying and

789
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Speaker 2: the fact that the reality was oftentimes the polar opposite

790
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Speaker 2: of what they were doing, and that it was happening

791
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Speaker 2: in a really systematic way. So, you know, to me,

792
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Speaker 2: that is probably one of the reasons why they decided

793
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Speaker 2: to move on. And it's important because it shows that,

794
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Speaker 2: you know, the legal pushback.

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Speaker 4: It took time.

796
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Speaker 2: There was a lot of pain and violence that occurred

797
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Speaker 2: in the meantime, and kids getting you know, worried about

798
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Speaker 2: tear gases, they're getting ready for Halloween and all of that.

799
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Speaker 2: But in the end it did create, you know, enough

800
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Speaker 2: pressure that they felt like, Okay, we can't do this

801
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Speaker 2: here the way we want to, in the totally lawless, unaccountable,

802
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Speaker 2: violent way that we want to. So I guess we're

803
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Speaker 2: gonna have to move somewhere else where. We don't have

804
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Speaker 2: those restrictions in place yet.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, on that note, we're going to move on.

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Speaker 6: We've got here in the lobby, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: We've got Tennessee State Rep. Justin Pearson. How you doing.

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Speaker 15: I'm doing fantastic. How are you welcome?

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Speaker 6: Welcome to the show.

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00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 10: What's going on?

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Speaker 15: A little bit of everything running for Congress, which is

812
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Speaker 15: a lot of fun and meeting people in the district.

813
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Speaker 15: We also have got a lot going on here in Memphis,

814
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Speaker 15: from Trump's occupation with over fifteen hundred federal agents, the

815
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 15: National Guard, deployment by our governor at Trump's behest, which

816
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 15: has had hundreds of people here that's just been proven unconstitutional,

817
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Speaker 15: and now they're saying it's going to cost eight million

818
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 15: dollars to take them out. So we've got a lot

819
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Speaker 15: going on in Memphis. But the spirit of people remain

820
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Speaker 15: strong as we continue to fight things like ICE, which

821
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Speaker 15: is really devastating our Latino community as well.

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Speaker 8: So Representative Pierson Krystal was basically asking if you could

823
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Speaker 8: speak a bit to the experience in Memphis of having

824
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Speaker 8: this massive operation, the massive deportation operation from the federal

825
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Speaker 8: government and from the administration, if you could.

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Speaker 11: Go just tell us a little bit about what was

827
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Speaker 11: like in Memphis.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: So, being under federal occupation literally for the deportation of

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Speaker 15: people in our own communities has been a devastating experience.

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Speaker 15: Quite frankly, we are starting to see people being kidnapped

832
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Speaker 15: after dropping their kids off at school. Most recently we

833
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Speaker 15: heard of an incident where ICE actually threw allegedly flash

834
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Speaker 15: bombs flash grenades into individuals' homes and separated some twins

835
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Speaker 15: from their mom and their dad. And so the trauma

836
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Speaker 15: of what we are experiencing is severe and we can't

837
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Speaker 15: downplay that in any way, shape or form. It's very

838
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Speaker 15: frustrating to see ICE in partnership with our own local police,

839
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Speaker 15: in partnership with people who are supposed to be doing

840
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Speaker 15: the work of serving and protecting our communities that are

841
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Speaker 15: part of the terrorizing of our communities, particularly for Latino

842
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Speaker 15: folks in Memphis and Shelby County. We've had over three

843
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Speaker 15: hundred people be kidnapped, deported, displaced. It's causing a labor issue,

844
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Speaker 15: It's causing an issue of parents not wanting to send

845
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Speaker 15: their kids to school. And these are these problems that

846
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 15: they said they were going to solve, such as violent

847
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 15: crime and things like that they don't care about. It

848
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 15: was never about that. And so we in a lot

849
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Speaker 15: of cities that are experiencing this are all having to

850
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Speaker 15: be eyes wide open to what this is, which is

851
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Speaker 15: an attack on immigrants, and it is also a weaponization

852
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Speaker 15: of military against democratically elected officials, particularly in democratic led

853
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Speaker 15: cities and black led cities, by this administration. And the

854
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Speaker 15: harm is going to be lasting. And our governor has said,

855
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Speaker 15: and even this administration has said, you know, this could

856
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Speaker 15: go on in perpetuity. Over half a billion dollars has

857
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Speaker 15: been spent on this already, billions will likely be spent

858
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Speaker 15: by the time this is over. In our communities are

859
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Speaker 15: still going to be left broken, unsafe, harmed, and children traumatized.

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Speaker 9: So Representative Cohen has been a pretty correct me If

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Speaker 9: I'm wrong, He's been a pretty well liked congress in

862
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Speaker 9: the district over the years, So like, how are you

863
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Speaker 9: differentiating yourself? How are you making the case that now

864
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Speaker 9: is the time that actually he's his time is up.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, look, Steve, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 10: Like he's people like him right personally.

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Speaker 15: Sure, you know, you got to talk to him for

868
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 15: more than ten seconds. And there's new videos out that

869
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Speaker 15: tell you who he really is. But look, he served

870
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Speaker 15: for twenty years in Congress, twenty three, twenty four years

871
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Speaker 15: before that in the state Senate. He has done all

872
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 15: that he possibly can do, and he's done the best

873
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 15: that he can do, and we can be grateful for

874
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 15: his decades and decades and decades and decades of service

875
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Speaker 15: while recognizing that we're in a different moment right now,

876
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Speaker 15: and this moment requires us to participate, to engage, to

877
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 15: fight back in a way that he really just does

878
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 15: not have the ability to do. Right now, we need

879
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 15: to have a new vision, we need to have new energy,

880
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 15: we need to have a new direction. And I'm out

881
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 15: every single day talking to constituents, talking to voters, and

882
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 15: there's saying the same thing, even if they voted for

883
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 15: him in the past, they're just saying, you know what,

884
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 15: it's time. There is a complacency that you can have

885
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 15: after you've been in office for so long that you're

886
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 15: not able and you don't have the energy to bring

887
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 15: the new ideas to fight the way that we need

888
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 15: for you to fight in this moment in time. And

889
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 15: he likes so many other people with who claim lots

890
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 15: of seniority and lots of seniority, like, look at where

891
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 15: we are. That seniority, then stop snap benefits from being cut.

892
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 15: That seniority isn't saving access to healthcare. That seniority isn't

893
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 15: changing the things that are important to people in this district,

894
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 15: such as the affordability crisis, the need for forty four

895
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 15: thousand affordable housing units, the fact that thirty eight percent

896
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Speaker 15: of our kids are underneath the poverty line. Those are

897
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Speaker 15: the issues that I think are becoming much more salient

898
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Speaker 15: to people. And having someone who's done, you know, a

899
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Speaker 15: pretty much average job isn't going to be what voters

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Speaker 15: want and what constituents are telling me that they want

901
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 15: to have as we look ahead.

902
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 9: You know, it's funny when you talk about age and

903
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 9: seniority more than more than twenty years.

904
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Speaker 10: Ago, how old are you? Thirty thirty?

905
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Speaker 9: Okay, so you were, you were like nine years old.

906
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Speaker 10: I was. I was a.

907
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Speaker 9: Medical marijuana lobbyist and Tennessee was one of the states

908
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 9: where I worked in and I just cold called all

909
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 9: the members of the legislature trying to find somebody to

910
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Speaker 9: carry our bill. And Steve Cohen did it. He agreed,

911
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 9: He agreed to do it. He ended up like using

912
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Speaker 9: that as one of the things he ran on when

913
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Speaker 9: he eventually ran for Congress.

914
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Speaker 10: But yeah, you were. You would have been in like

915
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Speaker 10: third or fourth grade at that time.

916
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Speaker 9: So, you know, I think the age the gerontocracy is certainly,

917
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Speaker 9: I think an issue that's resonating with Democrats across the country.

918
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Speaker 9: What about on the policy side, I know that you've

919
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Speaker 9: been kind of a pretty aggressive critic of Israel's genocide.

920
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Speaker 9: How do you compare your position there to Congressman Cohen.

921
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 15: Yeah, my predecessor was ninety three years old, and I

922
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 15: voted for her in the primary, and then she unfortunately

923
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Speaker 15: pass away, and I voted for her even though she

924
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,479
Speaker 15: had died, because she was better.

925
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Speaker 10: She was still in the ballot.

926
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Speaker 15: She was still in the ballot, and she was better

927
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 15: then than even the first was running against her, And

928
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Speaker 15: so I mean, yes, I know folks make a whole

929
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Speaker 15: lot about the age issue, but it's just like some

930
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 15: people still have the energy, still can do the work,

931
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 15: still show up, still can fight, still can serve as

932
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 15: a conduit of power, and never feel like they deserve

933
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 15: to have a position. They fight for it every single time.

934
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 15: They never look down on you. That ever condescending than

935
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 15: never trying to, you know, make you small to make

936
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 15: themselves big. There are people who are older who have

937
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 15: run for office, who have done that, and that's not

938
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Speaker 15: what we're seeing in our district, in this race, and

939
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 15: with so many other people who I think are just

940
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 15: clinging on to power, not to be of service, but

941
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 15: because they believe one reason or another that it is

942
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 15: theirs and it doesn't belong to the people. But these

943
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 15: seats that we serve in privileged to serve in. It

944
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 15: is not something that anyone owns that you can pass

945
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Speaker 15: down or to pass to the next person. It is

946
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 15: something that we have to fight for every two years

947
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 15: when you're in the House for the state or in Congress. Look,

948
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 15: I will tell you this, I will never support the

949
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 15: sending of money across and overseas for the bombing and

950
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Speaker 15: the killing of people. It's just not something that I'm

951
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 15: going to do. I am always frustrated that when I

952
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 15: talk about the need for billions of dollars to tackle poverty,

953
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 15: to tackle housing affordability, to provide resources to our veterans,

954
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 15: because we have the most veterans in our district who

955
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 15: are missing hundreds of millions of dollars over the last

956
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 15: twenty years that my opponent's been in office. People look

957
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 15: at me like I have three heads. But if you

958
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 15: say we need to get some money to a country

959
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 15: to bomb and to kill somebody overnight, Democrats and Republicans

960
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 15: alike run back to the capital to be able to

961
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Speaker 15: sign off on that. And I won't because we have

962
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 15: deeply entrenched social issues right here in our country. I've

963
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 15: got people in my district whose houses are sinking into

964
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Speaker 15: the ground, people and kids. One out of five of

965
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 15: our kids in this state are going to bit hungry,

966
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Speaker 15: thirty eight percent of our kids underneath the poverty line.

967
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Speaker 15: And you want me to send billions outside of this country, No,

968
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Speaker 15: I won't do it. And so I don't support what

969
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 15: we have been doing with the continual, continual support for

970
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 15: the military industrial Congressional complex. And it's not something that

971
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 15: I'm going to participate in to make billionaires who are

972
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 15: profiting off of these wars and more money. The money

973
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Speaker 15: is not going to troops, is going to these private contractors,

974
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Speaker 15: and these private contractors are then funding the campaigns of

975
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Speaker 15: elected officials and folks in Congress.

976
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Speaker 4: I'm not supporting it, Representative Pearson. Can you hear me now?

977
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 15: I came out?

978
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Speaker 2: Okay, yay, last question for you, and we'd love to

979
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Speaker 2: have you back and you know, keep track of your

980
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: campaign as you progress. But we've got also, after being writing,

981
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 2: to speak with her as well, so it's a big ten. Yeah,

982
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: that's great, that's great exactly. Yeah, we're excited to speak

983
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 2: with her as well. But I wanted to ask you

984
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: and Memphis has been the center of some reporting from

985
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: More Perfect Union and other outlets about the impact of

986
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 2: data centers on the community there, and I wondered if

987
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: you could speak to that and what your position would

988
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 2: be with regard to AI in general and specifically data

989
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: center construction and impact on local communities and electric bills.

990
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, we have to be able to be intentional about

991
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 15: the way AI data centers are being built constructed and

992
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 15: the consequences that they have by putting people first. Right now,

993
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 15: data centers are popping up in communities without any community input,

994
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 15: and so we're finding that utility rates are skyrocketing. We're

995
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 15: finding that people are dealing with noise pollution, just like

996
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 15: they are in South Haven where XAI is operating, the

997
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 15: consequences of people's water and the water tables and the

998
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 15: aquifers being completely depleted. For this technology to exist, for

999
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 15: billionaires to make more billions of dollars, right it isn't

1000
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 15: about your life or my life improving. It's about them

1001
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 15: making more profits. We aren't seeing substantial benefits to these

1002
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 15: projects outside of maybe a little bit of the tax money.

1003
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 15: But our lives ultimately are not improving. And the question

1004
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 15: we have to ask ourselves is to what extent what

1005
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 15: is the end goal here? And a lot of this

1006
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 15: artificial intelligence and automation is intended to deplete the workforce,

1007
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 15: and in our district, a lot of people work in warehouses,

1008
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 15: a lot of people work in jobs that you may

1009
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 15: not need a four year education for, and if you

1010
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 15: have AI, if you have robotics taking those jobs. We

1011
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 15: as elected leaders have not come up with a plan

1012
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 15: for what happens after. So there's an environmental consequence to

1013
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 15: our air, to our water, to our soil in some cases,

1014
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 15: and then there's the reality of what is this technology

1015
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 15: ultimately going to do to our communities. And if we

1016
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 15: don't have universal basic income, if we don't have the

1017
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 15: resources to take care of people after they lose their jobs,

1018
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 15: we are going to be in a very very very

1019
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 15: difficult situation as a country and in communities. And so

1020
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 15: this is one of the Environmental justice and climate justice

1021
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 15: is one of the issues that is a priority for

1022
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 15: our campaign and something I'll focus on in Congress as well.

1023
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 4: Where can people support you if they're so inclined, Yes.

1024
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 15: Please support us. Go to voodsinj dot com. You can

1025
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 15: sign up to volunteer, to donate, and on social media

1026
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 15: at justin J. Pearson. I'm so grateful to go.

1027
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 4: Oh great to give to speak with you. Thank you

1028
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 4: so much for taking the time.

1029
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 15: Thank you so much. Let's keep going. I appreciate y'all.

1030
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 4: Sounds good, All right, to keep.

1031
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 6: The Tennessee flowing. Here, We've got another guest on the line.

1032
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Speaker 6: Let's bring her in.

1033
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Hi, thanks for having me Hello, We've.

1034
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 6: Got State Rep. Afton Baine here on the show. What's

1035
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 6: going on? Afton? How are you doing today?

1036
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: Happy to be here. It's a first time caller, longtime listener.

1037
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Speaker 4: We love to hear that. A good start.

1038
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: Representative Bane, Why don't you just start by telling us

1039
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 2: a little bit about the district that you're running for,

1040
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: and you know who your opponent is is, and you

1041
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 2: know it's a very Republican district. I understand Trump want

1042
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: it by what twenty plus points? Why do you think

1043
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 2: you may have a shot to pull up a pull

1044
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 2: off a big upset here?

1045
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1046
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 7: So I'm stay representative of Afton Bay and to represent

1047
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 7: downtown Nashville, and I've been in the Tennessee legislature for

1048
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 7: two years. This congressional special election came about because Representative

1049
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 7: Mark Green cashed in on his corporate checks, took a

1050
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 7: job in Guyana after voting for the Big Ugly Bill

1051
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 7: and skip Town and thus catalyzing a special election. It

1052
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 7: is the last flippable red to blue congressional special election

1053
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 7: in the entire country, if you all remember, in after

1054
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 7: redistricting in twenty twenty, Nashville, which was a consolidated Democratic

1055
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 7: district was cut into three, So this is one of

1056
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Speaker 7: those congressional districts, and it includes the highest voter turnout

1057
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Speaker 7: precincts in Nashville. It includes our Purple Bell Weather County

1058
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 7: of Montgomery, which is by the Kentucky border, includes Fort Campbell,

1059
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 7: and goes all the way down to the Alabama border

1060
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 7: Mark Green. When the redistrict in the aftermath of the

1061
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 7: redistricting said do not do this, it will backfire, and

1062
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 7: the backfiring is here. It is an art plus twenty district.

1063
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 7: But our polling in October showed us six points down

1064
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 7: and we are shrinking those margins every day, which is

1065
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 7: why they've dropped two million dollars in the race to

1066
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 7: try to prevent this upset from happening in the South.

1067
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Speaker 7: And this race is competitive for a few reasons. One

1068
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 7: is just the dissatisfaction from the federal administration that this

1069
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 7: administration has not delivered on the economic agenda it promised.

1070
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Speaker 3: And two is the momentum is on our side.

1071
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Speaker 7: I'm a candidate who has never taken corporate pack money,

1072
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 7: nor will ever, and don't answer to the special interest

1073
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 7: as opposed to my opponent, who is a puppet to

1074
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 7: the puppet Masters of the universe and has rubber stamped

1075
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 7: and only does things when the puppets Masters tell him

1076
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 7: to do it, and the voters are recognizing that.

1077
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Speaker 3: So that's why this district has become suddenly really competitive.

1078
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Speaker 9: Aften, I've always thought that state legislators have a pretty

1079
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 9: unique miss city councilors to some degree to but the

1080
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 9: two lowdown state letters have a pretty like unique window into,

1081
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 9: you know how how regular people are feeling about everything

1082
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 9: in general, but also politics in particular, in a way

1083
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 9: that even federal lawmakers after they've been in Washington for

1084
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 9: a little bit too long don't and that people running

1085
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 9: for Congress for the first or second time also have

1086
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,479
Speaker 9: kind of an advantage when it comes to, you know what,

1087
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 9: what they're perceiving on the ground, just a little bit

1088
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 9: more alive and awake to it. So what are you, like,

1089
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Speaker 9: what is the national media missing about, like how people

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Speaker 9: are feeling about the country, the direction of the country

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Speaker 9: right now, and what are we what are we missing? Like,

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Speaker 9: as somebody who's been watching this show for.

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Speaker 3: For a while, I was just pulling my Ryan Grim

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Speaker 3: book out of my.

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Speaker 11: Sorry, I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I'm just fangirling right now, big fans.

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Speaker 6: Which one aften? Is it the drug one? Or is

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Speaker 6: it the Is it the squad one?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 11: No way, Oh it's really right there.

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Speaker 4: Let's go. Now this is going to its hotness.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm so honored.

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Speaker 7: So I've been I got my start as a community

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Speaker 7: organizer in Tennessee organizing to expand medicaid, and then during

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Speaker 7: the twenty seventeen Affordable Care Act and Medicaid cuts, that fight,

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Speaker 7: that fight, And I have been someone who's been trying

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Speaker 7: to make health care more affordable in this state for

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Speaker 7: a long time.

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Speaker 3: And I think the paradigm is shifting. And there's a

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Speaker 3: few reasons for that.

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Speaker 7: One is that we've had a Republican trifecta in the

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Speaker 7: state for fifteen years and it is not delivered for

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Speaker 7: the Tennessee people. We are the most dangerous place for

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Speaker 7: workers in the country. We have the highest maternal mortality

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Speaker 7: rate in the country. We have the highest inflationary cost

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Speaker 7: of groceries in the country. And they look around and

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Speaker 7: there's no one else to blame, right, I mean, obviously

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Speaker 7: they blame immigrants, but immigrants are not the reason our

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Speaker 7: grocery prices are high. And I do think that the

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Speaker 7: paradigm is shifting because the Republican trifecta has gotten lethargic will.

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Speaker 7: While they've been scapegoating and terrorizing, we have been building

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Speaker 7: and caring for each other. We've been building the organizing

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Speaker 7: muscle we need to actually win this election. And I

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Speaker 7: think the affordability crisis is hitting everyone. I mean, it's

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Speaker 7: it transcends geographies, it transcends partisanship. I'm someone in the

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Speaker 7: legislature who's fought to end Tennessee's regressive grocery tax by

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Speaker 7: closing corporate tax loopholes.

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Speaker 3: It's something I've been organizing around for the past three years.

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Speaker 7: And I've built a base of people on either side

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Speaker 7: that know that I stand against corporate rule and for

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Speaker 7: the people. So there is a shift and it is

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Speaker 7: going to happen in Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: And as w. E. B. Du bois One said, as

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Speaker 3: goes the soul, so goes the nation.

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Speaker 6: Often I'm in charge of drama clips, and there's a

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Speaker 6: recent clip going around that we wanted to give you

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Speaker 6: a platform to respond to this.

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Speaker 10: You know, in our business we call this.

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Speaker 15: Like chimp clipping.

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Speaker 6: When it's clips out of context, it's felt like an

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Speaker 6: out of context clip. But I'll read a little bit

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Speaker 6: of the quote here. Apparently you said, I hate the city.

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Speaker 6: I hate the Tennessee Bachelorettes, I hate pedal taverns, I

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Speaker 6: hate country. I hate all the things that make Nashville.

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Speaker 10: I hate it.

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Speaker 15: Now in the audio part is a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit fair, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: It's so fair?

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Speaker 4: Sure, Sure, weigh in on that, Apten.

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Speaker 6: But what would you like to say about this clip

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Speaker 6: that's floating around?

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say something I haven't said.

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 7: And I think it's funny how my parents don't kill me.

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Speaker 7: But uh, I did not hate country music. I was

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Speaker 7: conceived after a George Strait concert.

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Speaker 3: I personally attacked, but it just shows. The New York

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Speaker 3: Times reported that there's a forty eight page dossier of me,

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Speaker 3: which includes you know clips.

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Speaker 7: I had a podcast back in the day called Grits

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Speaker 7: Girls Raised in the South, and I was lamenting about,

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Speaker 7: you know, the things that are wrong with our city.

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Speaker 7: Obviously taken out of context, obviously hyperbolic, and I don't

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Speaker 7: feel that way at all. I have spent the past

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Speaker 7: decade of my life pouring blood, sweat and tears into

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Speaker 7: my city.

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Speaker 3: And my state to make it better for working people.

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Speaker 3: And I think, uh, I think it's backfiring. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they really just they're digging. They're digging, they're digging, and.

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Speaker 7: Clearly they've dug Yeah, I don't know, they haven't dug

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Speaker 7: far enough.

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Speaker 11: I guys, about a year ago.

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Speaker 8: Oh sorry, I was just saying about a year ago,

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Speaker 8: almost exactly, we had zoramm Danni on the show, and

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Speaker 8: nobody knew who he was at the time. I forget

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Speaker 8: whether Griffin or Ryan gets the credit for that booking,

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Speaker 8: but I remember we were asking him, it was right

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Speaker 8: after the twenty twenty four election, about his pitch if

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Speaker 8: he was talking to any of those people who swung

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Speaker 8: for Trump in the twenty twenty four election around New

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Speaker 8: York City and some of the boroughs. And he said,

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Speaker 8: in fact, just over the weekend he had been out

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Speaker 8: talking to people and trying to pitch himself actually to

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Speaker 8: Trump voters, which is something that Democrats were very reluctant

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Speaker 8: to do during the first Trump administration and in the

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Speaker 8: interim time period. So how are you are you finding

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Speaker 8: that when you talk to people who are Republicans Trump voters,

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Speaker 8: you're able to connect with them on your policy agenda.

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Speaker 3: So as a state legislator, I've worked really hard.

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Speaker 7: Obviously Trump handled one Tennessee, and I've worked really hard

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Speaker 7: to create entry points for people waking up to the

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Speaker 7: fact that they've been scammed by this economic agenda. And

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Speaker 7: it's important right now, especially in the South under authoritarian capture.

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Speaker 7: We have to create entry points to broaden our coalition

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Speaker 7: of people who believe that democracy needs to be restored.

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Speaker 7: And so I think that I do have cross partisan appeal.

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Speaker 7: I will say that my worst enemies do say that

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Speaker 7: I'm likable and authentic, and I'll take it. And you know,

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Speaker 7: for the culture, I've really tried to Obviously I've I've

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Speaker 7: got my own politics, but I don't equivocate. And my

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Speaker 7: Republican colleagues in the legislature, you know, they said, even

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Speaker 7: if I don't agree with you, I know where you

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Speaker 7: stand on the issues, and that's where my constituents know

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Speaker 7: I stand. And finally, just the special interest, we're seeing

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Speaker 7: a wave of Democrats in the South that aren't beholden

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Speaker 7: to these corporate entities and it's extremely popular and I've

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Speaker 7: been endorsed by End Citizens United. I will fight to

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Speaker 7: end dark money in politics, and that's something that absolutely

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Speaker 7: resonates across party lines about me.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, let me let me ask you a tactical question here.

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Speaker 2: So some of the thinking, you know, from people who

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Speaker 2: like me who aren't in the district, was like, maybe

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Speaker 2: if people there don't really notice there's an election going on,

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Speaker 2: maybe she could sneak through, because you know, it's a

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Speaker 2: very difficult district, even as I think people can see

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Speaker 2: what a what a compelling and extraordinary candidate that you are.

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Speaker 2: And so some of us got a little nervous when

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Speaker 2: we saw that Kamala Harris was coming to the district.

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Speaker 2: She's obviously very polarizing figure and would certainly draw a

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Speaker 2: lot of attention to the race. So I'm curious your

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Speaker 2: view on her coming in the you know, the reason

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Speaker 2: the decision was made to, you know, to have her

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Speaker 2: come in and how what impact do you think that

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Speaker 2: has on the race?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean she I'm grateful for any support from

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Speaker 7: anyone across the country. The South has been historically disinvest

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Speaker 7: disinvested in UH and I know that uniquely and innately

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Speaker 7: as a Southern organizer.

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Speaker 3: So any support is welcomed.

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Speaker 7: The district does include UH North Ashville, which is historically

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Speaker 7: black communities, and so to see the faces of those

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Speaker 7: HBCU students that have never seen a political figure like

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Speaker 7: that in our city, it was really rewarding to see

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01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 7: the smiles on their faces. But I'm also someone who

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Speaker 7: has I've never been the political insider. I've never been

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Speaker 7: the chosen party candidate, and so I think in my

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01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 7: political career, my trajectory. Most people that I've worked with

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Speaker 7: know that, and so if it, you know, if my

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Speaker 7: party is not doing the right thing, then I will

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Speaker 7: and you know, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Behold into them in any way.

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Speaker 7: And they're multiple times in the legislature that I voted

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Speaker 7: with my constituents over my own beliefs and biases. So

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Speaker 7: I'm definitely someone that is welcome to community feedback and

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Speaker 7: will represent the interest of our districts over that of

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Speaker 7: the party.

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Speaker 10: What are what are the ads like in the home stretch?

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Speaker 9: Are they hammering the like I hate the Bachelorette and

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Speaker 9: I hate Memphis?

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Speaker 16: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 9: What are you seeing black in the airwaves? And what's

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Speaker 9: your what's your ad?

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Speaker 14: Like?

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Speaker 9: How much how many resources? Like do you have the

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Speaker 9: resources you need to like compete down the stretch and yes,

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Speaker 9: so what's the final competition look like?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: The ad they're running. Just some background.

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Speaker 7: In May, we had a massive, unprecedented ice operation with

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Speaker 7: our Tennessee Highway Patrol. They worked clandestinely to pull over

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Speaker 7: three hundred and sixty nine community members, of which were

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Speaker 7: my constituents. And prior to that, I'm a social worker,

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Speaker 7: and so I had been conducting a community needs assessment

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Speaker 7: in the most Hispanic part of my district. And they said,

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Speaker 7: we don't feel like our elected officials are doing enough,

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Speaker 7: and we think racial profiling is the number one issue

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Speaker 7: of our concern. So I took that as a mandate,

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Speaker 7: and when I showed up, I decided to monitor their

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Speaker 7: activities in my district. I recorded a video that then

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Speaker 7: Representative Andy Ogles retweeted and called for my arrest. The

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Speaker 7: Department of Homeland Security then retweeted it and called for

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Speaker 7: my arrest. There was an incident the legislature where someone

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Speaker 7: tried to follow me into the building in a ski

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Speaker 7: mask and gloves. I basically had to go underground for

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Speaker 7: three weeks. And so I say that because that's the video,

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Speaker 7: they're they're promulgating that I'm against law enforcement, which is

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Speaker 7: not true, and they you know, it's it's the federal

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Speaker 7: overreach right now that we're seeing. And I find it

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Speaker 7: satirical that people who have lauded small government for so

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Speaker 7: long are suddenly okay with masked federal agents pulling people

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Speaker 7: out of cars in front of their kids for them

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Speaker 7: never to be seen again.

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Speaker 3: So that's the video they're using.

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Speaker 7: It's although they have chosen some cute photos of me,

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Speaker 7: so I will say, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Hand that to them. Mus not all bad, yeah, not

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Speaker 3: all that, not all bad.

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Speaker 7: But what's interesting about this race and then our videos

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Speaker 7: are the first one was on a mechanical bowl in

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Speaker 7: Nashville and it's there's a billionaire on the mechanical bowl

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Speaker 7: and it's like, you know, they get a free ride

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Speaker 7: in Washington, and then all tennesseees are being thrown off

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Speaker 7: as statistics are being read, and we've got another one

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Speaker 7: dropping in on Monday. The spending has been We've obviously

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Speaker 7: been out numbered three to one, but I hope the

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Speaker 7: cavalry is coming because this race is super super tight,

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01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 7: the pulling on both sides of sing and that's why

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Speaker 7: they're coming hard for me. But it is a race

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Speaker 7: that's winnable, and I'm just really honored to be the

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Speaker 7: Democratic nominee.

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Speaker 2: Often a few things before we let you go that'll

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01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: be important to our audience, and I'll just give them

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Speaker 2: all to you and you can. I have a feeling

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Speaker 2: you're not gonna have any trouble fielding these. No APAC

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Speaker 2: or other Israel lobby money oppose the genocide would block

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Speaker 2: future weapons sales to Israel.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been outspoken against you know, I voted in

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Speaker 7: the Tennessee legislature to ensure no foreign interference in our

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Speaker 7: elections and I think that it obviously extends to Israel.

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Speaker 7: And I've spoken out numerous times on the HOUSEFOLO or

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Speaker 7: against this, So I do have a track record.

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Speaker 10: What's a what would reelection look like? Is this a

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Speaker 10: one and done situation?

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Speaker 8: Like?

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Speaker 10: How do you how do you stay in office? If

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Speaker 10: you get in there?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: The mechanics are tough, right because the aftermath of unless

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Speaker 7: we can build a coalition of people who will reverse

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Speaker 7: the Medicaid cuts, whoever's inn office next year is going

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Speaker 7: to be blamed for or the aftermath of this bill

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Speaker 7: that passed in July.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not.

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Speaker 7: Naive to that I think what it would take is

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Speaker 7: a cavalry of a cadre of social workers, right, because

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Speaker 7: people are gonna be disenrolled from Medicare, Medicaid SSDI, right,

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Speaker 7: and you're gonna have to be be re enrolling people

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Speaker 7: in these public benefits. Additionally, I think it's gonna take

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Speaker 7: a lot of effort to combat the miss and disinformation, right,

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Speaker 7: and it's gonna have to be localized organizing.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna have to have really embedded field staff

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Speaker 3: within these counties.

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Speaker 7: And I'm gonna have to go into the Lions and

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Speaker 7: in these rural county Republican parties and hopefully make my case,

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Speaker 7: Like you know, I know you're going to probably spend

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Speaker 7: one hundreds of millions of dollars to oust me next year,

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Speaker 7: but please give me a chance, because I promise, like

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Speaker 7: even if I even if I'm not agreeing with you,

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Speaker 7: like I'm happy to have a conversation and I welcome

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Speaker 7: the relationship.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: Well, Oh, okay, I'm sorry, go Ryan, last question, Ryan.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, just to Emily's point, like, what is the thing

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Speaker 9: that works the best with these Trump Trump supporters who are.

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Speaker 7: Open, It's I have I've knocked thousands of doors in

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Speaker 7: Tennessee about and have spoken to really about really contentious issues,

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Speaker 7: and it's creating, it's sowing seeds of cognitive dissonance.

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Speaker 3: That you don't force down their throats, right. And so

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Speaker 3: I think if we can just continue.

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Speaker 7: To highlight how this agenda isn't working and build the

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Speaker 7: entry points, they can come off. But I've said this

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Speaker 7: with my whole chest from day one, is that immigrants

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Speaker 7: are not the reason your grocery prices are high. And

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Speaker 7: when they come back with, well, you know, all these questions,

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Speaker 7: it's like, that's that's not the reason you're struggling. Like

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Speaker 7: you know, anytime the culture or reaction, it's like, well,

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Speaker 7: is that going to fix I twenty four, which is

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Speaker 7: our highway?

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Speaker 3: Is that going to build another hospital? Right?

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Speaker 7: And I've been dogged about that, and I hope it's

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Speaker 7: I really hope it's resonating with the district. And as

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Speaker 7: one of my conservative talk show radio host friends, which

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Speaker 7: go on conservative talk radio, said, you know, you're a

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Speaker 7: lot like Trump. I was like, please, you've got great hair,

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Speaker 7: great hair. He and he goes, you're authentic. And people

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Speaker 7: know that I'm the same person I was in fifth

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Speaker 7: grade that I am as a legislator that I will

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Speaker 7: be at your congresswoman, and you're note where I'm going

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Speaker 7: to stand on that. And just briefly, hearing President Trump

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Speaker 7: mentioned my name was probably the highlight of this campaign.

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Speaker 3: And uh he.

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Speaker 7: I thought he was going to be like aunk avunk

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Speaker 7: is way cut that afton Baine blah blah blah, She's

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Speaker 7: she's not a real blonde. But no, he said, went

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Speaker 7: the historical conventional route, which was I'm a left wing lunatic.

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Speaker 16: So that's yeah, big standard issue fair from there, final questions,

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Speaker 16: I would have to say, if anybody wants to be

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Speaker 16: part of that cavalry coming in here, help you get

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Speaker 16: across the finish line?

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Speaker 2: Where can they where can they support you? And I

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Speaker 2: guess I was curious, you know how I think early

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Speaker 2: voting has started? What indications are you getting there?

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Speaker 4: Real quick?

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Speaker 7: It's so close, And trust me, I'm I'm a jaded

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Speaker 7: electoral organizer as I've been one. Must imagine Sisyphus happy

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Speaker 7: right as he's rolling the boulder up the hill in

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Speaker 7: the state like Tennessee. We are so close and it's

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Speaker 7: gonna come down to turn out in Nashville, and it's

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Speaker 7: going to come out down to sporadic voters who who

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Speaker 7: historically don't vote but need to be excited. So if

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Speaker 7: you're in Nashville, please please please check your voter registration

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Speaker 7: see if you're registered to vote in the seventh Congressional district.

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Speaker 7: Often for Congress dot Com, we've got phone banking. It is.

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Speaker 7: I want to say, twelve days until election day, and

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Speaker 7: I just I don't know, I've I've I've been really jaded,

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Speaker 7: and this is the first time that I've been excited.

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Speaker 7: And we are I think we're inspiring a country and

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Speaker 7: I'm just really honored to be the nominee at this

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Speaker 7: moment in time in American and Southern political history.

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Speaker 4: Amazing.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 15: On the podcast is Grits.

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Speaker 10: That's the podcast. The podcast, the podcast is Breaking Points.

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Speaker 6: Thank you often and if people can, we'll put the

1406
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 6: link in the description the video if people want to

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01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 6: learn more about you, and thank you and good luck.

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Speaker 3: All right, see you on the other end.

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Speaker 10: You've got it. Always great to have a Breaking Points

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Speaker 10: viewer on.

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Speaker 11: I love it when people are as starstruck by Ryan.

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Speaker 8: Here on the DNC with Ryan was an experience that's funny.

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Speaker 9: Well, in other words, she has no chance, nobody who

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Speaker 9: is a fan of this show.

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Speaker 4: And things are changing, things are changing, times are changing.

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Speaker 2: She's got I mean it's a tough district, very tough district.

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Speaker 4: But you can see why people are excited about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, she's very impressive, like she knows what she

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01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: is all about, not afraid to say it.

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Speaker 4: Like very excellent candidate.

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Speaker 2: So be interesting to see she's If she's able to

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Speaker 2: pull it off, it would be, oh my god, it'd

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Speaker 2: be insane, you know.

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Speaker 9: I mean, also, there are parts of Nashville that are

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Speaker 9: just like overrun by tour as garbage.

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Speaker 10: I assume that's what it means.

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Speaker 11: It's absolutely true.

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Speaker 10: Yes, oh Yeahshville would disagree with that.

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Speaker 4: True Nashville.

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Speaker 2: I mean that would be like New Yorkers being offended

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Speaker 2: by like saying that Times Square sucks, you know, like no,

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Speaker 2: the true New Yorkers like, yeah, we avoid it, like

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Speaker 2: the fucking play obviously, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, watch Out, I love I loveday eminem Store. There's

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01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 6: a there's a raising Canes there that is apocalyptic.

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Speaker 11: That the Virgils and Times Square is fun.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so I don't know, speak yourself.

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Speaker 2: I've been there with my kids a number of times,

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Speaker 2: and it was it was hellish every every single.

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Speaker 11: I've been on bachelor pedal pubs. Wow, I've done.

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Speaker 8: You are a problem problem not by choice, not by choice,

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01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 8: not by choice.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even know what a pedal pub was. But

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Speaker 2: now that you say it, I understand what it is.

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Speaker 10: You like bike and drink, right, Yeah, you don't really bike.

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Speaker 8: I mean they have pedals, but you're not really puddling evening.

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Speaker 16: Wow.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but the ostinization of Nashville is not just complete,

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Speaker 8: but even on another level. Yeah, and it's become this

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Speaker 8: like sort of corporate. It's it's very like Atlanta coated now,

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01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 8: like a very heavy you know, there's like a lot

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Speaker 8: of people who are from New York and Los Angeles

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Speaker 8: now in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: I mean I when I lived in Kentucky, I's spent

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01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 2: a decent amount of time in Tennessee, not just in Nashville,

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Speaker 2: actually around the state, and it truly is actually one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite states.

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Speaker 4: It's natural.

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Speaker 2: Beauty wise, it's extraordinary, and Nashville is like I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's fun and kitchy or whatever. But yeah, I could

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Speaker 2: see being annoyed if you were actually from there. By

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Speaker 2: the bachelorettes and some of that stuff.

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Speaker 6: So fair enough, and again I got I gotta say

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Speaker 6: I think she was being sarcastic. You know, this is

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Speaker 6: another podcaster and coming up in power, so you know,

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01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 6: we can't always we can't talk about old clips and

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Speaker 6: people transform they're new.

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Speaker 4: Podcast though. I bet it was good. Yeah, I bet

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Speaker 4: it was good.

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Speaker 2: She's she's got it, man, I bet it was she

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Speaker 2: and that I've had at leaders they need to hang out.

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Speaker 11: I was gonna say that would go hard.

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Speaker 4: It go so hard.

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna I'm gonna hit Jennifer up after this

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Speaker 2: and be like, I've got someone you need to have on.

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Speaker 10: All right.

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Speaker 6: On that note, we are going to head over to

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Speaker 6: the second half of the show, where we've got a

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01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 6: bunch more news and amy questions to talk about. Of course,

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Speaker 6: that's Breakingpoints dot com if you want to sign up

1481
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 6: and get the full show, anything else before.

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01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 12: We head out?

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01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 6: Nope, all right, see you guys on the other side.

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Speaker 10: Bye.