WEBVTT - 103: Werner Herzog’s The Real Cancun

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Nightcall, a production of I Heart Radio. It's

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<v Speaker 1>four fifteen am at Club Coco Bongo in Cancoon and

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<v Speaker 1>you're a list name Tonight Call. Hello, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>night Call, a call in show for our dystopian reality

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Emily Ushida, I'm in Los Angeles and

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<v Speaker 1>with me on the other line is Molly Lambert and

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<v Speaker 1>Tess Lynch. And we're going to start off this week

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<v Speaker 1>with a night email from our listeners. Solely. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pronouncing that right, she writes longtime listener first time

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<v Speaker 1>an E. Coller. I saw this link on Reddit and

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<v Speaker 1>could only think of this podcast. It's a video of

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<v Speaker 1>drunk people in Miami, unbothered by coronavirus in the name

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<v Speaker 1>of spring break, watching a herd of people rationalize the

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<v Speaker 1>irrational through the power of alcohol as profound, one might

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<v Speaker 1>even say cult like. Also, thank you guys for reporting

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<v Speaker 1>on the issues at hand with the usual dose of

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<v Speaker 1>dark silliness. This pot has been both an uplifting and

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<v Speaker 1>informative resource in trying times. Wishing you all safety and health.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Slowly again, I hope I'm pronouncing

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<v Speaker 1>your name right. Um, yeah, definitely saw this making the

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<v Speaker 1>rounds uh this week on the socials, Um, Miami remains

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<v Speaker 1>undaunted in the face of coronavirus. Are we surprised? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>ring break is all about a immortality complex though, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean just poisoning yourself and harming your body over and

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again because it is help you, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>he heatonistic celebration Again. I blame this more on all

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<v Speaker 1>the cities for not shutting down in time. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's also a big pile of blame on STS,

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<v Speaker 1>the travel agency that has been booking these like massive vacations.

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<v Speaker 1>They have not canceled. I mean as of recording. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that they have canceled anything, um, which is

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<v Speaker 1>mind boggling. But then you're then you have to think

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that under normal conditions, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>travel agency that's just like taking a big risk on

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<v Speaker 1>people getting their stomachs pumped and stuff. So maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>just used to that. But I was astonished that there

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<v Speaker 1>was that video of that one guy going around where

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, oh, if I have to go down coronavirus,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've been waiting for the spring break for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, so I gotta do it. You're just like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't seem like even like surely people are

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<v Speaker 1>like at least a little bit stressed or something, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't even if he decided that it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to kill you, like, why would you be in

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<v Speaker 1>the mood for this at all? I can't. I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they also made the mistake of being

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<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't affect young people in the news for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, and then they had to walk that back.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably a lot of young people were like, well, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't affect me so like a toilet seat. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been really um, quite embarrassing for for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>millennials and and gen Zeros. I will have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>but well, I mean for what you were saying though

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<v Speaker 1>about the city's like the mayor of Miami is not

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<v Speaker 1>happy about this. He's like trying to get people to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>And he gave a quote where he said spring break

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<v Speaker 1>is over over. Miami Beach Mayor Dan Gelber says, we

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<v Speaker 1>cannot become mkitri dish for a very dangerous virus. Spring

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<v Speaker 1>break is over. The party is over, man, Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Miami says the party is over. Well, I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>have to wait until Pitbull always in the true mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of Miami. But but that's pretty serious. Well Mr Worldwide

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<v Speaker 1>knows that this is a worldwide pandemic. Yeah, no, Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Worldwide is a collectivist. He gets it. I would assume,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't. I haven't actually heard from pit Bull.

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<v Speaker 1>What I like listening? Please call in tonight, call and

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<v Speaker 1>let us know the official Pitbull stands. I'll spring break

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<v Speaker 1>pit Bull records a special track, like an uplift, like

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<v Speaker 1>like does his version of the horrible Galga dot like

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity imagine video. But if he does like a party track,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to weep like that to break me. It

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<v Speaker 1>will make me so happy. I'm probably here for you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there should be no coronavirus novelty songs.

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<v Speaker 1>I think just the Maudlin ones are like terrible. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's a version of fuck Corona. Uh that is the

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<v Speaker 1>song fuck Katrina. It's like a New Orleans Bounce song.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called Katrina. Somebody did an update called fun Corona.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been listening to that a lot. Makes me good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great. Well, just puts you put you in a

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<v Speaker 1>good mood. You guys know, I was like obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>the video from Italy of the guy playing Rhythm of

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<v Speaker 1>the Night office balcony, but that's the artist is Corona,

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<v Speaker 1>Like oh got a doubles? There are all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>Corona party songs. Of the Night is a great song.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fantastic cry. I've hated the song Imagine. It's

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<v Speaker 1>in my top ten hated songs anyway, So I felt

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<v Speaker 1>I was glad. I was like, finally everyone else's catching

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<v Speaker 1>Now we can finally agree. This isn't Imagine. We can

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<v Speaker 1>all hate. But yeah, handedly killed the song, I hope.

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<v Speaker 1>So Johnny had Imagine in his head because of it

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<v Speaker 1>and all the parodies, and he was like, well you ease,

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<v Speaker 1>like put some other song in my head because I

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<v Speaker 1>hate Imagine. And so I started singing Mambo number five.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been listening to Mambo number five because when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a very like heightened emotional stay, you feel

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<v Speaker 1>really nuji. There's something it just gets you. Yeah. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to make a quiet Storm mix because I

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<v Speaker 1>was feeling so stressed out. I was like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to make a mix, and I thought quiet Storm would

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<v Speaker 1>relax me. But then it was like too emotional and

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<v Speaker 1>it was too late at night, so that I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna make a mix of nineties R and

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<v Speaker 1>B songs about like sitting in your room and staying home,

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<v Speaker 1>set up in your room, perhaps sitting up in your

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<v Speaker 1>room just kicking it. Nothing depressing, nothing. Yeah. No, I've

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<v Speaker 1>realized now that a lot of my music is too

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<v Speaker 1>scary to listen to now, which is fine other times. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, anybody who's been to a nightcall nights knows

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<v Speaker 1>that I tend to play like some spooky vibes and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not for night call, Like that's my taste

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<v Speaker 1>in music, and a lot of it I'm just put

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<v Speaker 1>on for five seconds and I'm like, nope, nope, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't listen to this right now. Um. I feel the

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<v Speaker 1>way about movies. There's a lot of movies I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to watch. Specifically, what did you watch if all?

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<v Speaker 1>As I was thinking, I was like, I'm in the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect mood for it follows right now. You watched Annihilation? Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you're really leaning into it. I didn't like Annihilation that

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<v Speaker 1>much the first time we saw it and covered it on.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys really found on It's super hard, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but look who gets the last laugh. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>and I enjoyed it. My husband's first time seeing it,

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<v Speaker 1>he enjoyed it. I mean, I don't know where you

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<v Speaker 1>were right all along? I thank you get it up. Um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of Florida, U on on all accounts. Uh so,

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<v Speaker 1>so what's the situation with the Disney properties right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Disney World remains open, they're all closed so forced to close. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an exception in the California bill that they

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<v Speaker 1>could stay open, but they're not doing it because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want people to get coronavirus at Disneyland. I believe. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I heart radio podcasts own Jamie Loftus went the last

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<v Speaker 1>day before Disney cland closed forever and had had a

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<v Speaker 1>great time, but they shut it down. And in Disney

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<v Speaker 1>World they did something seemingly worse, which is that because

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<v Speaker 1>people like travel to Orlando, you know, maybe just stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in Orlando. Um, the president of Disney World did something

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<v Speaker 1>where they like brought everybody out for one last firework

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<v Speaker 1>show to be like, hey, you know, we know you're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting your Disney World trips, so here's a a

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<v Speaker 1>little nice thank you anyway of a firework show. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a billion people crowded in a plaza together.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, such a bad idea. Yeah, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>appreciating that so far my limited experiences outside, people have

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<v Speaker 1>been respecting the social distancing, you know, like six ft ya.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know that that has not been the case everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I know in New York a lot people have been

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<v Speaker 1>complaining that people just don't seem to be I think

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<v Speaker 1>it must be a lot harder in New York because

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a much denser space. Uh. People wise, it

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<v Speaker 1>definitely seems pretty easy in l A. If you are

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<v Speaker 1>in the an area, that's not super Even if you are,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you can in Marriage Story. Your guys favorite

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<v Speaker 1>it's just more space have thought of that. But they

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<v Speaker 1>did shut down. They shut down the Chinese theater, they

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<v Speaker 1>shut down all the big tourist attractions for real. Bourbon

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<v Speaker 1>Street is shut down in New Orleans. Um, And there's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good cam network I'm sure I've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>before called Earth Came UM that just has live cams

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<v Speaker 1>on a bunch of basically tourist areas around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've definitely been looking at those. I posted some

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<v Speaker 1>spooky screen grabs on my Twitter, um the other night,

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<v Speaker 1>but just Bourbon Street is totally empty. I watched just

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<v Speaker 1>a rat run around and be the King of Bourbon

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<v Speaker 1>Street and it was the best. But there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good animal videos again, like very um very

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<v Speaker 1>annihilation ee. Yeah. And I think I think the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are being eco fascist about it and being like

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<v Speaker 1>it's because the earth is like reclaiming it's it's time

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<v Speaker 1>are not good obviously, but it's just yeah, it's not sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>run it back right well and this will be coming

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<v Speaker 1>before we talk about that. It's just h yeah um yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just shows that we obviously also need

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with climate change and talk about that and

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<v Speaker 1>in a way it's all one problem. Yeah. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that's driving me crazy right now is that

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<v Speaker 1>like obviously, like this is not unrelated to climate change,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is something that has been predicted for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, the ability for these mass pandemics to to

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<v Speaker 1>break out because of climate change. Um. And like I

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<v Speaker 1>went out to take the trash out today, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like I am way on one end of a

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<v Speaker 1>scale as far as like um, recycling food waste stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I'm hyper visual about it. And I try

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<v Speaker 1>to generate as little waste as possible. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>like bringing out my two little like Trader Joe's bags

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<v Speaker 1>of trash and recyclables and just seeing like people piled

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<v Speaker 1>up like all their pizza boxes and stuff. Because everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>just ordering delivery, I guess, and like um and ordering

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<v Speaker 1>ship off of Amazon. It's just like, oh God, like

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<v Speaker 1>this is sort of compounding this no, and it it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a reckoning because it's like we're in techno

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<v Speaker 1>feudal is um where we have all this useless like

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<v Speaker 1>baroque stuff. We have the weirdest things that people don't

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<v Speaker 1>actually need, but we don't have any of the baseline

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<v Speaker 1>things we actually do need. Yeah, and that, But also

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<v Speaker 1>on the flip side, I will I will just play

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<v Speaker 1>Devil's advocate and say that I think families who have

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<v Speaker 1>little kids, we're creating a ton of trash right now

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<v Speaker 1>and feel terrible about it. But it's like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know even where to begin with that because everything has

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<v Speaker 1>to be delivered, and yeah, it's not and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>on the individual, it's just this entire system that we've

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<v Speaker 1>grown up and where it's just like, oh, you can

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<v Speaker 1>order a cable that you need that comes in an

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<v Speaker 1>entire box with shipping materials all over it, and that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, and there's and it's cheap, so why not

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<v Speaker 1>do it? But do you guys remember when people made

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<v Speaker 1>when bottled water was like a rich people thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when bottled water used to be made fun

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Now everybody just yeah, and now it's just

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<v Speaker 1>how people drink water. Yeah. It definitely feels like we're

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<v Speaker 1>being forced to walk back some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody took for granted about how the world works. Maybe again,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly for good, because some of those things aren't great.

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<v Speaker 1>Never forget that Avian is naives backwards from This is

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<v Speaker 1>totally off topic, but I will just say that one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that this shift has made me consider is owning chickens,

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<v Speaker 1>which I never want a chicken. Yeah, I try. I

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<v Speaker 1>was wanting to sell my family on it, and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was like, we really, like even my kids were like,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want more animals to take care of, like

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<v Speaker 1>we're stretched so thin. And I was thinking, guys, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't find any eggs, I don't have much to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to get chickens. And I couldn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>the kids get a chicken, I'll compare it your chicken

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<v Speaker 1>with you, because yes, let's do that should be worried

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<v Speaker 1>about that it would be eaten by a coyote. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we both not if it's in a coup, not

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<v Speaker 1>if it's in a coop. Do need to start taking

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<v Speaker 1>suggestions now for the name of the night called chicken? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>our feature mascot watched a lot of this show Doomsday

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<v Speaker 1>Preppers the other day, so you were in the mood

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<v Speaker 1>for that, but you know I didn't. It ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being really funny, not on purpose, but it also had

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<v Speaker 1>some good tips. I'm just gonna say such. Well. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>another friend of mine, my friend Lizzie, was saying she's

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<v Speaker 1>a researcher for films and for the last like three

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<v Speaker 1>months she was doing research on a film about a

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic and read everything about pandemics and then kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like became not a prepper, but like bought a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of food as soon as she heard about coronavirus. And

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<v Speaker 1>she said she was like the first person at the

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<v Speaker 1>store doing it, and the store employees were like, why

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<v Speaker 1>are you buying so much food? She's like, because it's coming. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all living in it now. I still can't find

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<v Speaker 1>any toilet paper. It's fine. Um, We're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break and when we come back, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a very special night call. For a very

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<v Speaker 1>special nightcall, correspondent, We'll be right back. Hi. What l

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<v Speaker 1>like you've all at the school with anything? I've got

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<v Speaker 1>ghost to l A. Do you believe in g I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>even though my dad does. I don't even alien stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>do you bi? So Emmett, it's my kid and he's here,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be answering that nightcall of it came

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<v Speaker 1>from Adeline from New York. So, Emmett, what's it like

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<v Speaker 1>living in l A? Well, it's extremely fun. My mom

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<v Speaker 1>does not want to go back to Connecticut and video games?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know any famous kids? Not at all? Not

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<v Speaker 1>at all? And do you believe in ghosts? You've got

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<v Speaker 1>a maybe? Okay, we've got a maybe. We've got a maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in me? Do you believe in aliens? Totally?

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<v Speaker 1>That was awesome. We had a couple of other questions,

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<v Speaker 1>um from readers. Let's see, okay, so we haven't wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get an idea of what it was like to

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<v Speaker 1>be a kid during COVID nineteen, So we're getting we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting the voice of the youth here. Yeah, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think what's it been like for the past week

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<v Speaker 1>since you haven't had school? Awesome? It's been awesome. Why

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<v Speaker 1>because I get a video games all day. I get

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<v Speaker 1>to fun home school, no crazy ore, and I get

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<v Speaker 1>video game play dates. Yeah, video game play dates have

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<v Speaker 1>been really clutch. Who do you play with? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>as good as you are at Zelda? No? No, is

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<v Speaker 1>anyone as good as you are at Zelda? No? Dad?

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<v Speaker 1>That is really good at Zelda too. Um. From Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a question, what do you think school will

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<v Speaker 1>be like next year? Since everybody had so much trablically,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be infurred grade since it's like a whole summer stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel prepared for third grade right now? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Um and everything? Yes, what do you know about coronavirus?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a grown up. I don't know anything about that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, good, I'm doing len the affording stuff. Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>I were you nervous to be on this podcast? Oh much?

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<v Speaker 1>Extremely extremely nervous. I can't tell how much money are

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<v Speaker 1>you getting? Okay, buddy, thank you so much. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let emt um go, I'm gonna free him. Thank you, Emmett,

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<v Speaker 1>and you walk yourself back. Thanks, thank you. I would

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<v Speaker 1>have a good day. I love hearing from the single

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<v Speaker 1>digit uh cohort. We need to get a diversity of

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<v Speaker 1>viewpoints and right now a night call for the our

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<v Speaker 1>extreme times right now. So thank you very much to

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<v Speaker 1>Emmett for that. Me too. It is really interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>think about too, because it's like we keep placing it

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like, our entire adult lives have been

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<v Speaker 1>so weird, but we had like a period of normalcy

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<v Speaker 1>before that. If you're a kid right now, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, that's just what it's like. Everything, it's weird

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. Yeah, I think it's actually harder for

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<v Speaker 1>kids like Emmett is kind of able to roll with

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<v Speaker 1>it a bit better than my daughter because she she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't she can't understand what is happening. He kind of can.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so far, so good. But I think when

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<v Speaker 1>we enter week three, it's gonna not be good for anybody. Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think human all humans of all ages

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<v Speaker 1>are encountering like the limits of indoor time, but also

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of indoor time what have you been doing

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<v Speaker 1>to keep everybody occupied? Tests? What kind of programming have

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<v Speaker 1>you have you moved into this week? Um, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>every day both kids have were Actually my daughter has

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<v Speaker 1>zoom meetings with preschool, which us sophisticated. I know. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they do circle time zoom meetings and uh, Emmett's his

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<v Speaker 1>second grade teacher does story times. So she's reading fantastic Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Fox every day and we take a walk any day.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that it's not raining and other than that, right

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<v Speaker 1>up television all the time. That's what I've heard. That

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<v Speaker 1>is what I've heard from many parents is that it's

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<v Speaker 1>really hard. Screen time rules are off, they are off,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean they're really good. Like, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of different educational software things in the mix. There's

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<v Speaker 1>Freckle con Academy and Prodigy um and so we've been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do some of that. And you can earn

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<v Speaker 1>video game minutes if you do reading minutes. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>so hard, because it's really especially if you have multiple kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have to be so on top of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and being managing both kids different activities from home is

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<v Speaker 1>so hard, especially when you're just trying to like maintain

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<v Speaker 1>your your chill level. Yeah, it's On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>is it nice to like have a attack, Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's it's also nice to have the company. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we're all kind of we're like hunkered down and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make the best of it. But it's hard when

0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:20.880
<v Speaker 1>they get cranky, and it's you know, trying to explain

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<v Speaker 1>that we can't go anywhere, um as of yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'm very supportive of that. I want everyone to

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<v Speaker 1>stay home, and other than our walks around the block,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been staying home. But like explaining to my daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that we can't go on a plan trip

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<v Speaker 1>to Lego Land or a school trip that she had

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<v Speaker 1>been looking forward to and that kind of stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's a bomber. Yeah, even if you're not a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a weird thing. I've noticed with my brains,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fleeting grasps of reality with all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there was a point last night, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>some time after they issued the shelter in place or

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<v Speaker 1>or for Los Angeles that you know, and again it's

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<v Speaker 1>this thing where it's like I was fine to stay

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<v Speaker 1>I was more or less doing shelter in place before

0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 1>there was an order for it, but now they've kind

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<v Speaker 1>of made it official and and and given all these recommendations,

0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and then kind of having that order come down, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, oh God, wait what wait, what's happening? Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>not like suddenly I started having a freak out moment

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<v Speaker 1>last night, even though I wasn't really fundamentally changing my behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>but just the your brain does a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of screen you from thinking about the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of it moments a moment, and sometimes that screen falls

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit at some point. Every night, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>like a wave of panic wash over me where I

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<v Speaker 1>just think, Okay, this this could really just I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't end up knowing all of these people who die.

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.439
<v Speaker 1>It's just like your you go down into the dark place,

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<v Speaker 1>and then in the morning I wake up and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel okay because for a minute, I don't remember what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Johnny Johnny said, it's like the time loop,

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<v Speaker 1>the time loop from Russian Doll. Yes, exactly. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>each day it's it's like memento. It's like each day

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:17.119
<v Speaker 1>you learn this information again and you're like, what the

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:21.119
<v Speaker 1>fund is going on? Yeah? There is though that blissful

0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:24.760
<v Speaker 1>couple seconds when you're just waking up and or if

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:26.359
<v Speaker 1>you get up to go to the bathroom in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the night and managed not to think about

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<v Speaker 1>it at all, like where everything is fine. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's or just the surrealness of it of like

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<v Speaker 1>going outside and like it's a beautiful day and you're

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<v Speaker 1>walking around and like everything is normal, but also it's not. Um,

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.320
<v Speaker 1>it feels a little bit like an alien invasion, although

0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.439
<v Speaker 1>Johnny also said that would be worse. Don't compare it

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<v Speaker 1>to to that. Well, Um, I've been volunteering at this

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.959
<v Speaker 1>nonprofit project, Angel Food. It's here in Los Angeles. It's

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:05.159
<v Speaker 1>a meals on wheels program, and there's a chef there

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.680
<v Speaker 1>who's like, you know, a full time UM employee there,

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>And he was saying, like he was saying, this didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even compare to the riots and as far as like

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<v Speaker 1>unusual circumstances in Los Angeles, because at least with the riots,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're privileged enough to not live in a certain neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't affect you as much. Um, oh, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>that's out. That is definitely true, And like I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is sort of what happened with America on this

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.479
<v Speaker 1>is that like they could have been showing footage of

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 1>what was happening in China on American television. They just

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:43.800
<v Speaker 1>weren't at all. And now that we know that, like

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>people in the government like knew about this for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, and we're selling stocks because they knew it

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:51.679
<v Speaker 1>was going to tank the business market. But like it

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 1>almost feels to me put my tin hat on here,

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Like it does feel a little bit like the American

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<v Speaker 1>government purposely didn't talk about it so that business could

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<v Speaker 1>go on as long as possible and they could like

0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 1>sell all their stocks and buy those telemarketing stocks. I

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't put it beyond anybody. Yeah, I don't even know.

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's no, it's logical. But it's like that

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 1>some of the things that it's also crazy to see

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 1>things happening that we've been told that could not happen,

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and now they're like doing those things. Some of them

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 1>are good, um, such as trying to house people, although

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 1>again it's like we could have been doing this for months.

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 1>We should have been preparing for this, like you prepare

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 1>for a big storm or something. And like now the

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 1>way that humans brains work though, and that's why I think,

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know, I was really uh. I think

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you posted this on your feed, Molly, and I've I've

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>gotten in and out of listening to this podcast, but

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I did revisit true and on UH this this week

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 1>because I had heard that they're one of their most

0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:00.199
<v Speaker 1>recent coronavirus episode was pretty good, and I think that

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>they had a really good perspective there of like not

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 1>necessarily like I mean, there are some people who are

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>like the sky is so beautiful, air pollution is down,

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>like like coronavirus is a blessing, and no, that's very ghoulish,

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Like do not say that, Like that is the wrong

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>attitude to have. But I think that like the opportunity

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 1>it presents at least to like really change things up,

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>it's some kind of it's still it's not going to

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>happen on its own, but it's going to take work.

0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think that was something that I took away

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:29.360
<v Speaker 1>from that. And I think it's like it does accelerated

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 1>in two directions. Like there is the eco fascist people

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 1>who are like the earth is cleansing itself by like

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>killing poor people. It's like the group approach to uh, well,

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>some of the some of the eco fascists and white

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>supremacists are like drifting off of this and have podcasts

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:54.880
<v Speaker 1>about it that are like I explained coronavirus and why

0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it's you know good in some way. Um, and those

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>podcasts are like number one on Apple right now. Because

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>people are still aren't monitoring things like this in any

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.680
<v Speaker 1>meaningful way. So it does feel Yeah, it just feels

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>more insane. It was like what comes after hypernormalization. Yeah,

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm glad. I think maybe I've just blocked it

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>out by now because I did drive by the crimes

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Global Warming is Good Billboard a few times because it's

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 1>sort of near where I live now. It's actually in

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>between our studio and where I live now. But uh,

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>we're not going into the studio obviously. But is that

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>what that whole deal is? Is that what her? Her? Her?

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it's we don't know. I mean, nobody who

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>could say yeah. Well, people were like, you know, tagging

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk on Twitter and being like, hey, why don't

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>you because he fought to keep TUSLA factories open, and

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>he wrote his letter to his employee saying that you

0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 1>were more likely to die in a car crash than

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 1>from coronavirus US. So keep coming to work. And then

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:04.679
<v Speaker 1>people were like, hey, why do you convert these into

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 1>ventilator factories like they're doing in Europe And he was like, well,

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>if we ever ran out of ventilators, I would consider that.

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>And everyone's like read the news, yeah, newspaper, like this

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 1>is the chance for all of those techno crack guys

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to step up to the plate and like put their

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>money where their mouth is, and none of them are

0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>doing it. They all yeah, it's disgusting. It's like none

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.720
<v Speaker 1>of them want to be have the legacy of being

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>the person who like save the world. Yeah, which just

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>weird considering they all have this messiah complex, but not

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>when it actually matters, right, It's like a narcissistic messiah complex.

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Also like literally the good work of making masks. Oh

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:57.479
<v Speaker 1>really guy? Yeah? Yeah, well again, it's like on the

0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.719
<v Speaker 1>flip side, there is this thing of people with three

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>deep printers offering to print ventilators for free and print

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>masks for hospital workers. Like there are a lot of

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>people fighting, but it isn't any of the people with

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. It's all the little people. And

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that's just been the story of everything lately anyway, and

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>now it's like but in a crisis. Yeah, yeah, it's really.

0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've been really my only outdoor activities have

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>been going into volunteer in this kitchen, um, and it's

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just like it's it's heartening. Like if you want

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the opposite of being on social media all day and

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 1>like feeling your like your head is about to explode

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>because you've read about another senator who like dumped their

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>stocks after they got the briefing about coronavirus, Like, the

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>opposite of that is being among people who are like

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>willing to go out and help like very impacted people,

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>um through this. And there are lots of them out there,

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>and like if you choose to put yourself among them,

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I swear it's it's very good brain vibes. Yeah. I

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>have been out a little bit to support a group

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>called Reclaiming Our Homes that is like inspired by Moms

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>for Housing doing a similar action in l A, where

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.959
<v Speaker 1>they liberated a bunch of houses in El Serino that

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>are owned by Caltrans. Those are the ones that have

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>been vacant for twenty years, vacant for twenty years. Um,

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>they opened up a few more of them for a

0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 1>few more families, and then like today, they sent in

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>all these California Highway patrolmen to guard the remaining houses

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that no more houses were turned into houses.

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>It's just insane. So it's so horrible. I mean, it's

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>also interesting because, like the it's really hard to wrap

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>your mind around how in l A and particular. I mean,

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess in California this is going to impact on

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>housed communities. And so I mean, we have rain coming,

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>which by the time you threw this in the already

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>be raining. But it's raining, it's cold, there's a pandemic.

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>And then there are these houses that have been vacant

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 1>for decades. It's it's you bought. Anyone could try to

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>defend them as like a useful vacant space right now, right,

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>it's evil because it's just evil. But you can support

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Reclaiming Our Homes project from home, um by calling There's

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>a number I posted on my Twitter with ill taget

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll flag it. So yeah, support from home. You can

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>still do things from home, even if it's just calling

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:38.479
<v Speaker 1>your council members to yell at them about getting people housed.

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back tonight call, we're talking about spring breaks. Theyll

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>because it's still spring break March, and today we're talking

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>about the most two thousand three movie ever made, the

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Real Cancoon. This movie came out when reality shows were

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>getting really popular and the movie business was thinking maybe

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>reality shows were the future of movies as well, that

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>all people wanted was a reality show but longer and

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>on screen. I mean, it's just the execution. It didn't

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>land like they thought. They conducted a nationwide search for

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:40.959
<v Speaker 1>the sixteen hottest spring Breakers in America and ended up

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>with these people who are also boring. That they make

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>what might be one of the most boring movies ever made.

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>But that, to me is what I think is interesting

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:00.040
<v Speaker 1>about it in a weird way. It's a it's in

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>him a very tee. It's so boring. Heard so apparently

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>loves it. Yeah, this is amazing to find out. So

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>this was from the Globe and Mail. Uh, there's an

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>article that we'll put in our show notes. Um Berner

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>hurt Zog did catch one documentary he quote liked very much.

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Hurt Song says over the phone with the Globe and Mail.

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:25.240
<v Speaker 1>His voice is smooth and assured. It's a bit monotonal.

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>He speaks monotonal, which do you think, guys? Anyway, what

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I forget going to talk to them who made it.

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>It was about the spring break in Congcoon, Mexico, and

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the sole focus of the film was who who who

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>would get laid first? It was so straightforward. I liked

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 1>it for that is that Okay, oh yeah, somebody as

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>somebody who has had the honor of sitting across the

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>table from from Mr Hertzog, from her Hurtzog, I did

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>my best. I think that. I think that really sums

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.879
<v Speaker 1>it up. It's a very it's a very hurt Zog

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>opinion to have, because it is because I think even

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>when you start to get into like why this film

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>is a failure, these are all like arguments that Hertzog

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>has about documentary, like this is the like I think

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>for our eyes now this is such a tranceparently like

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 1>doctored and kind of tweaked and and and voiceover reality

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>product um. But I feel like that's totally his vibe though,

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>is like you know, print print the legend uh like

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.280
<v Speaker 1>not the you know whatever? Wait, which do you print

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and which do not print? I forget print? Yeah, you

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>put the legend. I don't really care about who, whether

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>or not somebody was exactly saying that line in that context,

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing, which is like kind of I

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>feel like the first wave of sort of criticism around

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>um reality TV was really about that, like, well, it's

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>not reality. I think we've all kind of been a

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 1>nerd to that at this point, right, because the documentary

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:09.839
<v Speaker 1>is also always like structured in in ways and narratives,

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's why we all like Ross mclwee's Sherman's March. Um,

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>we all love it. We all love it. Have you

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>guys seen it. It's just it's supposed to be a

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>documentary about Sherman's March to the Sea. It's like a

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>piece of Southern history. General Sherman and then tried to

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 1>sell me on this before. It's so good, you would

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>both love it. It's supposed to be the time to

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>watch Sherman's. It ends up great. It ends up just

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>being this guy going around the South and talking to

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 1>all of his ex girlfriends and making a documentary just

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>like about himself. And it's very good. But it's about

0:35:53.600 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>how documentarily documentary is inherently personal. Nothing is objective, even

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the real Cancun, so do. The cast of characters is

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>very I mean they were cast correct, Like these these

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 1>people were scouted basically, they were scouted. Some of them

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>seemed to be a su students. Yeah, but they're from

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:23.440
<v Speaker 1>all over. So you've got the twins of course, You've

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>got the guy who's never had an alcohol before. Um,

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>You've got Laura Ramsey who was then who is the

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>only person who went on to have an acting career

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>of these people, Um, it's a it's the casting at

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the beginning when they were interviewing, like I think it

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:44.240
<v Speaker 1>was the third casting call, when they were interviewing everyone

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>that was I thought the best part of this totally

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>like a total Christopher guest type open yeah, And I

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, is this going to be like a

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 1>comic gem and then it was not. It not. It's

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>very disappointing. That part also feels a little bit like

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:02.360
<v Speaker 1>pornography when they're like, so do you like to party?

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Tell us about partying, especially when they have the twins

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>to be like, so you guys don't like to watch

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>each other naked? And they're like gross. I was like,

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 1>what are you like, we're gonna They're like, we're going

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to challenge that notion later in this movie as one

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>of the tiny plot arcs. Yeah, they yeah, one of

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>the like they're they're barely arcs. They're like plot bumps there, pimples.

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, I didn't that feel relaxing in a way

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 1>right now, something so absurdly low stakes? No, because, um, well,

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.120
<v Speaker 1>for one, there's so much body contact in this all

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I was doing about body contacts and how much I

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:49.839
<v Speaker 1>miss it. Um, there's a lot of that. And then uh,

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>it was so the twins, particularly, Um, we're so cokey

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't um like I was. I felt like

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I caught it by osmosis, Like, I'm glad you were

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>bringing this up. It's such a strong reaction to the twins.

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 1>The twins are horrible, Like there's something really about them. Yeah, well,

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I will say all twins have a connection that we

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 1>non twins can never understand. It's not that it's not

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 1>their connection though, it's like their vibe. It's very weird.

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.399
<v Speaker 1>And Joquin she like, doesn't it remind you how bad

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the early two thousands? Also like again, just like, don't

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>romanticize this. It was gross. Nobody had eyebrows. Still, Yeah,

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I think like you are in the other direction with

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the eyebrows as well. See after this, we're gonna eyebrows

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>are going back to the land. I agree. I mean yeah,

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't even think of like now. It feels also

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>super unheard of to do a whole plot line around

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>like this person has stated that they don't want to drink,

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and so we're going to make it a gag to

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 1>peer pressure them to drink. Like that feels not like

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>something like something that would happen in a movie, like

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:08.240
<v Speaker 1>a scripted film. Um, like an American Pie or something

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 1>specifically is from Can Hardly Wait. They play the music

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>cue from Can Hardly Wait. It's the cool nerd from

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Can Hardly Wait to get drunk and becomes cool and

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 1>everyone likes him. Yeah, but also that guy is like

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 1>the most the only real character. Oh but I would

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 1>actually I would argue against that. I think he is

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the most doctored character in the whole show. Right. They

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>committed to it. They were like, if you're gonna make

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>them these types on a spring break trip, then like,

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 1>at least give us some editing that makes it seem

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>like these people have any personalities at all. Yeah, Well,

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.879
<v Speaker 1>the best scenes are like with him and um who

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 1>is the there's like the two black guys and there's

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>a bigger guy who doesn't get any girls. Um what

0:39:55.560 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>was his name? And paul I think, yeah, yeah Jarrelle

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>So is Darrell, and they like have this really sweet

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>friendship where they're just sort of commiserating about like not

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>being able to talk to girls, and in a way

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:11.879
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't feel like sad secky, like whiney MOPy, why

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>don't like in selly, why don't girls like me? It's

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.879
<v Speaker 1>just like these you're just figuring out life and it's

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>it was a nice relationship. They're in a different movie

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that is fun. Yeah, and that plot line too with

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 1>is the Girls Sky that he likes. Yeah, yeah, with

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:32.399
<v Speaker 1>that plot line of like the girl like t too,

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>of the people in the house getting sort of just

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>learning the whole time. And then he hooks up with

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody else and she's like, well, you're supposed to wait

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 1>and fight harder for me. Yeah. He's like, we're only

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 1>here for four days, right, Well, she she came in

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>with like a real wasn't she the one in the

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>costume video at the beginning to where she had like

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:53.319
<v Speaker 1>this this whole speech about how she only wants to

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 1>be with a guy where she's like wondering where he

0:40:56.000 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>is double she started being hard to get. She doesn't like. Yeah,

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:03.359
<v Speaker 1>she was like the nice guys, those are the ones

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 1>that I like, don't end up with because I'm I

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>like the guys. He seems like ahead of she seemed

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>from now you know what I mean, like the most

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>relatable person in this movie on the show, because it

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>just well, that's the thing is like, it demonstrates why

0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 1>reality TV baby does work better in a TV format.

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 1>There's not enough time if you build anything out on

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>these people. I've been watching Bravo's Summer House, which is

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>basically like this, but summer and over a long period

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:44.399
<v Speaker 1>of time, over an entire summer, but only on the weekends. Um,

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and we're only recorded on weekends. No, they only go

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:53.960
<v Speaker 1>to the Summer House on the weekends. So much transportation,

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 1>too much drive, They're going to just stay in the

0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Summer House once. Why don't you just live in the

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Summer House. But like when you good hits right, No, guys,

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to listen to my new podcast, Summer House Quarantine,

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that I've been making to stop myself from going crazy, um,

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:13.920
<v Speaker 1>because they all work in Manhattan and they that's how

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>they can afford the share house for the summer is

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>that they have the summer house Mont Talk oh monk okay,

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:25.719
<v Speaker 1>And the main characters in the first two seasons are

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>twins called The Work Is Twins. They called themselves the

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Work Is Circus in a really forced way over and

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>over again. Yeah, it's not gonna have to listen to

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>my podcast about it. But it made me also understand

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Emily's love of Terrace House because I think just spending

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 1>weeks with people makes you develop affection for them. Where

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 1>you're spending it's not a forced like you don't have

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 1>to be around them all the time, so you're just

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 1>having a normal life alongside people. Yeah, and more boring people.

0:42:58.480 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Boring people reveal layer is over a long period of time.

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:04.879
<v Speaker 1>This is just like, none of you guys are using

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>this opportunity that I get into terrace House that I

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:11.439
<v Speaker 1>will watch terrace House. If you watch Summer House terrace

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>House for summer House, that's the barter in the new

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:18.480
<v Speaker 1>barter economy. I'll watch use the free Emily, I'll be

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:27.640
<v Speaker 1>your past who's bartering? Um? Yeah, I need watched. Yeah,

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I need to. I mean I haven't even really started

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the watching part of this whole experience because I only

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>just got a couch yesterday. But I I will be

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>uh spending a lot of time on the couch. So's

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 1>what I'll say. Though, there is a limit to the

0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>amount of screen time that any human can tolerate, and

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you come up against it faster than you think. You think,

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna watch ten movies every day and it'll be fine.

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.799
<v Speaker 1>But I can watch like a movie or two every day,

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:57.720
<v Speaker 1>and then I need to like be off a screen.

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:03.359
<v Speaker 1>I want to get into puzzles. Yeah. Well, I've been

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:07.800
<v Speaker 1>doing a lot of cross words. Well, speaking of things

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that are pleasantly monotonous, back to real cancoon real quick? Um. Actually,

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was that pleasantly monotonous. I found

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it very pleasantly monotonous, and that is why I recommended it.

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I like Werner Herzog enjoy well. It does feel like

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 1>it does make you really um makes you aware of

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I think the particular like Bunn and Mury slash MTV

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:43.879
<v Speaker 1>style reality um television or media making because so much

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.360
<v Speaker 1>so many of the rhythms of it are still even

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>though this was you know, five years before Jersey Shore.

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 1>They well, that's what I was gonna say. That's what's

0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 1>funny is that this was a failure and then they

0:44:54.840 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>essentially did the same thing but with like more interesting people. Yeah,

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>over a longer period of time and that Jersey Shore.

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's also like, it's not just that they found

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 1>more interesting people, it's that people understood how to be

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 1>on reality television more by the time the Jersey Shore

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 1>rolled around. And then even like the best I mean,

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the first season, it is still the best season of

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Jersey Jersey Shore, because they know how to be on

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.399
<v Speaker 1>reality television, but they don't know what they look like yet.

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:25.479
<v Speaker 1>On reality television. Yes, they become self aware. It goes

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:29.360
<v Speaker 1>downhill so fast, true, but the first season show is

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:31.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of pleasant because of that. The first season of

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Jersey Shore is actually like it's great. I think that

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:39.840
<v Speaker 1>was great because its own thing that there was a

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 1>weird kind of like innocence and it had kind of

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>a genuine heart that in retrospect you're like, no, was there,

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Like I think at the time we were all sort

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of being a little skeptical about it, or maybe maybe not,

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 1>but I mean it was fascinating because like half of

0:45:56.160 --> 0:46:01.240
<v Speaker 1>them weren't Italian, and it's sort of ship the universality

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>of Guido culture. Yeah, that's a thing that anyone can

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:08.360
<v Speaker 1>decide is there is their identity, but also beyond the

0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Guido culture thing, and beyond it being like a document

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 1>of you know, a subculture. I guess I I feel

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 1>like and I can't remember if I've said this on

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the podcast or just to you guys off offline, but

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:22.799
<v Speaker 1>like I do feel that the more I think about

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Jersey Shore, that and more it feels like this sort

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>of um multi year project to like exercise two thousands

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>culture out of pop culture, because it was basically like

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 1>showing the most exaggerated cartoonist version of all the stuff

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that you see in the Real Cancoon and all the

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff that had been on seasons of Real World before

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>that and other reality shows, and and the the the

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 1>type of clubbing, the methodology of clubbing, like the music,

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 1>like all of it kind of like just pumped up

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to eleven to like make it into like an object

0:46:57.640 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>of mockery for a lot of people. Even though like

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:01.399
<v Speaker 1>I would agree that there's like a lot of part

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 1>in that show, most of it is sort of a

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>send up of this totally. It's like a satire, but

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>it also it has more of there's something to believe in.

0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I'm saying this, but with Jersey more

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 1>you can there's texture that when I was watching the

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:22.320
<v Speaker 1>real Cancun, I think I expected that same texture of

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, that person is so ridiculous, But like

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 1>with time you kind of grow fond of them and

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 1>you realize like that they're getting this kind of sense

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of who they are through this remove and canco And

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you're right that it's so even though it's only a

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>few years of five years before you said five years

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:44.560
<v Speaker 1>before Jersey short because this was two thousand four key

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:47.799
<v Speaker 1>out Jersey shows oh nine, I believe so yeah, so

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:51.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not that much time that's past. But the difference

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:53.800
<v Speaker 1>in I mean, these people I think are just so

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:58.879
<v Speaker 1>much more like not reserved, but their their personalities are

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 1>flat in real which I was surprised to see. And

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:04.879
<v Speaker 1>it's also just like they made a very one oh

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.360
<v Speaker 1>one level mistake of just casting a bunch of like

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:11.319
<v Speaker 1>interchangeable blondes to that you literally cannot tell apart, like

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't understand what's going on for so long? So

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, who's that? And all the like half the

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 1>dudes look the same too. It's just like and I

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 1>thought shows that better about that over time, like not Yeah,

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I just want to make out Roman from Party Down. Yes, yes, yeah,

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:34.320
<v Speaker 1>party Down. I saw somebody on social media starting a

0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:38.360
<v Speaker 1>party down watch for the first Yeah, that's a good downer,

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:45.959
<v Speaker 1>but a fantastic show recommended. Um. I I think also

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Jersey Shore came out of the the MTV documentaries, the

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:52.880
<v Speaker 1>MTV True Life. They had a few episodes that are

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 1>true life. I'm going to the Jersey Shore, and they

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:59.400
<v Speaker 1>must have known always that those episodes were particularly good

0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and that that was just a gold mine reality television.

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:06.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and it's and that's the difference in like,

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, whoever is producing these episodes, those episodes of

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>true life where it's like you stumble across a scene

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.399
<v Speaker 1>that has legs, it has like you know, has some

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 1>places you can go within it, um as opposed to

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 1>just setting up this sort of um cookie cutter situation

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>of like we're just going to throw a bunch of

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 1>young hot people in a house and give them alcohol.

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:34.000
<v Speaker 1>That's not a scene like that's just like a that's

0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 1>a very um, actually pretty banal situation as opposed to

0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 1>like this very specific place in New Jersey where a

0:49:41.600 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>very specific kind of like party culture happens. Yeah. And

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about Jersey Shore because I've been watching

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Summer House, which is basically Jersey Shore but with wasps,

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's just interesting. Is like ethnography because again they're

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of boring and repressed, but then occasionally they do

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 1>you get really drunk and reveal some weird thing about themselves. Yeah,

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a subculture in its own way. Repression is a subculture.

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Um well, I had never watched this. I remember it

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.920
<v Speaker 1>being in theaters though. I feel like I had some

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 1>friends who worked at the movie theater that summer didn't

0:50:22.880 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 1>watched it, and then a month later it was like, okay,

0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:28.279
<v Speaker 1>this is just straight because it was it lost money

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 1>at the box office. Yeah. I think I watched it

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:34.359
<v Speaker 1>on ti vo maybe like the first ti vo. Oh wait,

0:50:34.400 --> 0:50:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was oh four, Wikipedia saying it was

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 1>it was oh three that it came out, So it

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 1>must have been about a spring break a year before tests.

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:49.839
<v Speaker 1>You're going to spring break around this time, but your

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>experience realistic. I mean, I didn't go to Cancoon, but

0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 1>it's it was totally realistic to me. Uh. The only

0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>thing that wasn't realistic was the fact that there were

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:04.560
<v Speaker 1>so many people who were who had like these kind

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of inner relationships, whereas in my experience it's like you

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 1>and your small group and then you hang out with

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a couple of people and then the next night different people. Um.

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel so embarrassed every time. And honestly, this whole

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 1>month has been a therapeutic delve into like how do

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel about my time doing all those spring breaks?

0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:31.960
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean it it was pretty faithful. A

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of like I mean the did you go to

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 1>a club like Club Cocabonga? Yeah, but I well, I

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.239
<v Speaker 1>actually don't remember. But I was thinking when I was

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 1>reading the Wikipedia about this about the real Cancoon. After

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I finished it, I was like, man, I think I

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>booked um or no, it was it was after we

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:54.280
<v Speaker 1>were after I was reading the articles about spring break

0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:56.840
<v Speaker 1>like not being canceled and people continuing to go on

0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:58.920
<v Speaker 1>spring break with coronavirus, I was like, I think I

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 1>booked through sts or maybe it was like s t A,

0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>but it was I was like man, these travel agencies

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that exclusively work in spring break, it is like it's

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 1>still the same agencies, which seemed right, It's probably in

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the same It's probably the same since like where the

0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 1>boys are, it's probably probably UM. But yeah, I don't remember.

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the names of any of the places

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 1>that we went to. But as I talked about in

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 1>our newsletter for spring break monthum and if you want

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 1>our newsletter, you should subscribe to our Patreon. But honestly,

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:37.399
<v Speaker 1>the best spring break was the shankiest spring break, which

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 1>was UM in Panama City Beach, and that had a

0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:46.439
<v Speaker 1>club that was very real. Cancoon? Did you do like that?

0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 1>And I want to go so bad? It looked so fun.

0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've been the clubs in Vegas. That's the

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:54.439
<v Speaker 1>closest thing. I mean, now those clubs sound appealing because

0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 1>we're we've been under quarantine, and like Emily said, did

0:52:56.880 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 1>you just be like a bunch of bodies smashing together? Now?

0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:03.120
<v Speaker 1>My first thought is like, that's so we're responsible, and

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:07.760
<v Speaker 1>then it's like, only now in general, that's actually maybe good.

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw one business advertising a strip club that they

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:15.839
<v Speaker 1>were going to stay open and offer dances through a

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:23.720
<v Speaker 1>glass panel and also antibacterial wrestling. Wait, that's a waste

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 1>of anti Are they wrestling in antibacterial bell? Supposedly but

0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 1>probably not really. But it's really a funny image and

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>a great idea because it did make me think, like,

0:53:34.040 --> 0:53:40.440
<v Speaker 1>what if everyone was just doused in antibacterial it wouldare

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 1>but we could just party at Club Cocoa Bongo. That's true.

0:53:46.320 --> 0:53:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to Club Cocoa Bongo. I'm sure. I'm

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:58.239
<v Speaker 1>sure it's like thriving right now. I'm sure with disease. UM. Well,

0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:02.759
<v Speaker 1>I was glad to watch l Cancoon, a very important

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:06.880
<v Speaker 1>chapter in the history of American spring break. Um. But

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:10.920
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0:54:11.040 --> 0:54:14.920
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