Speaker 1: What's that at.
Speaker 2: The foot of my bed.
Speaker 3: It's spooky and joky.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead.
Speaker 3: He's coming this way.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, I said.
Speaker 5: Ross Dress, Hey boo, it's me ros Dress Falas.
Speaker 1: I decided to do something real wild and crazy. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I have this really adorable dog named Rocky who
Speaker 1: I adopted him out here, well, out in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: And then I got really busy and was living a
Speaker 1: chaotic life and just wasn't wasn't around for him enough,
Speaker 1: and so I gave him to my parents to live
Speaker 1: in Michigan. And he's been there for a number of
Speaker 1: years now and it's time to get him back. And
Speaker 1: so I've been talking with my parents for a while
Speaker 1: now about getting him back, and I thought, well, I
Speaker 1: really don't have a whole lot to do these days,
Speaker 1: and it's scary to go flying right now. So I
Speaker 1: decided to put on a mask and sanitize my life
Speaker 1: away and drive by myself to Michigan, which I've already done.
Speaker 1: I'm currently in Michigan at this moment and heading right
Speaker 1: back to Los Angeles, so a quick little visit to
Speaker 1: snatch up my dog. But the good news is now I.
Speaker 3: Have a dog.
Speaker 1: And it's such a shame because I passed by so
Speaker 1: many iconic haunted places Colorado, you know, Iowa, Nebraska. But unfortunately,
Speaker 1: you know, can't really do a whole lot right now.
Speaker 1: But maybe I'll do this trip again sometime and go
Speaker 1: to some haunted places with Rocky, my puppy. And you know,
Speaker 1: he's one of these dogs that's just so cute and
Speaker 1: so sweet. I can't take him anywhere without everybody falling
Speaker 1: in love with him. And so you know, he's going
Speaker 1: to come to Hollywood and we're going to get him
Speaker 1: an agent and we're gonna live that Hollywood life. I'm
Speaker 1: going to be a real stage mother from now on.
Speaker 1: So took him out of the Midwest and now we're
Speaker 1: going back to Los Angeles. But I would love if
Speaker 1: you would follow Rocky. I just set up an Instagram
Speaker 1: for him because we're going to make him, you know,
Speaker 1: an instacelab. You know, he's a SoCal dog now. So
Speaker 1: he is on Instagram at Rocky the Diva, the diva
Speaker 1: and a boy, is he ever a diva? And let
Speaker 1: me promise you there will be some fashion looks. There
Speaker 1: will be some matching fashion looks between the two of us,
Speaker 1: so get ready for some rocky content. And also, don't worry,
Speaker 1: he will be whenever we have live shows or anything.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be there in his little ghost outfit that
Speaker 1: I'm yet to get him. So exciting, crazy week I
Speaker 1: have had, but we've got part two of Coocoo Peru today,
Speaker 1: which I am so excited about.
Speaker 3: We got great feedback.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening last week and for sharing
Speaker 1: it and you know, tweeting about it and posting about
Speaker 1: it on Instagram. We love an insta story, we love
Speaker 1: a shout out, so thank you. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: And trust me, she does not disappoint with a part
Speaker 1: two today. But before we get into that, I wanted
Speaker 1: to read a listener story that was posted in the
Speaker 1: Facebook group Ghosted by rasdres Velaise. This comes from the
Speaker 1: Haunted Hillside. The Haunted Hillside writes, I used to work
Speaker 1: at a boarding school as a janitor slash maintenance worker.
Speaker 1: The building itself is an old building with a lot
Speaker 1: of tragic history and very haunted. The building started as
Speaker 1: a simple hotel, but when most of the building burnt down,
Speaker 1: it was rebuilt into a luxurious resort As business slowed down,
Speaker 1: the resort was eventually sold and converted into a parrison
Speaker 1: from the prison, it was turned back into a hotel,
Speaker 1: and finally bought and converted into a boarding school where
Speaker 1: I was employed. While that building has had some lives,
Speaker 1: Actually it reminded me way. I'll get back to the
Speaker 1: story in a second, but it reminded me of the
Speaker 1: John Hill episode if you haven't heard that one where
Speaker 1: he stayed at this place that's like now an apartment
Speaker 1: building that used to be a prisoner or something like that.
Speaker 1: Real spooky. Okay, back to the story. In its over
Speaker 1: one hundred year history, the place had its share of deaths.
Speaker 1: During the fire of the original hotel, the owner and
Speaker 1: his family perished in the flames. With the construction of
Speaker 1: the luxury resorts, the new owner built a golf course
Speaker 1: and placed one of the eighteen holes right on top
Speaker 1: of a sacred Indian mound common to the area. They're right,
Speaker 1: I know it's a common ghost story trope, but it
Speaker 1: is documented in historical records. Thank you for clarifying. During
Speaker 1: the time of the resort, two murders also occurred on
Speaker 1: the property, the first as a maid who worked for
Speaker 1: the resort and was shot and killed on the sun
Speaker 1: porch of the building by her husband, who believed she
Speaker 1: was cheating on him with another resort employee. The second
Speaker 1: was a young African American boy who worked on the
Speaker 1: resort collecting water from a nearby natural spring for the
Speaker 1: resort guests. Unfortunately, there's not much information about him other
Speaker 1: than that he was shot and killed. When the building
Speaker 1: was converted to a prison, the third floor of the
Speaker 1: north wing was converted to the isolation area of the prison.
Speaker 1: This was created by building four iron cells, which remain
Speaker 1: there today, as the third floor was sealed off and
Speaker 1: never remodeled. A young woman serving time in the prison
Speaker 1: hung herself in one of these cells after carving her
Speaker 1: suicide note into the wall of said cell. Suicide note
Speaker 1: is still there to this day. Fast forward to today.
Speaker 1: The place is very attractive. The fire alarm often goes off.
Speaker 1: Oh I said attractive, I meant active. The place is
Speaker 1: very active. The fire alarm goes off and is accompanied
Speaker 1: with the smell of smoke. However, after investigating what triggered
Speaker 1: the alarm, no one can find anything and the smell
Speaker 1: is gone. During one of these alarm triggers, a staff
Speaker 1: was clearing the main floor of the building. When she
Speaker 1: entered the dining hall, she saw an elderly couple sitting
Speaker 1: at one of the tables. Before she could say anything
Speaker 1: to the couple, they just faded away. On the same
Speaker 1: floor of the dining hall, several staff and students have
Speaker 1: reported seeing a woman in a white dress walking the
Speaker 1: sun porch and main halla. I personally believe she was
Speaker 1: the murdered employee. Everyone that Caesar says that she just
Speaker 1: is all of a sudden there and then just as
Speaker 1: quickly she's gone. But she's always there long enough that
Speaker 1: it's more than just a glimpse. The second floor, where
Speaker 1: the student dorm rooms are located, have their own hauntings.
Speaker 1: These are more residual from what I have gathered. The
Speaker 1: floor is split into two wings. On the north wing,
Speaker 1: a black mist is often seen floating down the hallway.
Speaker 1: On the south wing, a man in a hat is
Speaker 1: often seen leaving the last dorm room and walking across
Speaker 1: the hall through the locked off doors that lead to
Speaker 1: the now dilapidated third floor. This spirit is just like
Speaker 1: a movie on replay. He never changes his behavior, He
Speaker 1: just simply crosses the hall. Students down this same home,
Speaker 1: and most often the same room mentioned above, report things
Speaker 1: flying forcefully off of their dressers. They have also reported
Speaker 1: seeing faces appear peeking into their windows, which are located
Speaker 1: fifty plus feet off the ground. On top of all that,
Speaker 1: the faint sound of nineteen twenties to thirty's big band
Speaker 1: music can be heard coming from the main lobby. I
Speaker 1: myself have heard this. Students staying in dorms directly above
Speaker 1: the area where the isolation cells are held often here footsteps,
Speaker 1: the rattling of chains, and the slamming of heavy prison doors.
Speaker 1: I won't say they don't know about what's on the
Speaker 1: third floor, but I know the school doesn't advertise it either.
Speaker 1: I keep in touch with people that work there, and
Speaker 1: they recently added security cameras in the building, specifically the bay.
Speaker 1: Most of the basement is closed off for maintenance and laundry,
Speaker 1: et cetera, but there is an extra common area where
Speaker 1: students can gather and watch movies, etc. Apparently, these cameras
Speaker 1: recently caught an orb I know, floating from a seat
Speaker 1: two seat, almost like it was Goldilocks trying to find
Speaker 1: the perfect place to sit. After the orb had tried
Speaker 1: four or five chairs. It just vanished to end on
Speaker 1: a positive note. I, along with some other staff, managed
Speaker 1: to sneak a spirit box into the third floor. After
Speaker 1: another male staff and myself attempted to talk to the
Speaker 1: spirit of the woman who had killed herself, the two
Speaker 1: female coworkers who were with us took over. The spirit
Speaker 1: box started going crazy. Most answers were just yes or no,
Speaker 1: but at some point a voice came through the static
Speaker 1: and said something to the extent of I'm.
Speaker 6: Here to watch over the girls.
Speaker 1: I added that voice to my own. I'd love to
Speaker 1: tell you all the name of the building, but because
Speaker 1: it is still a functioning school, I will keep that
Speaker 1: information to myself. Wow, that place sounds terrifying. Hope it's
Speaker 1: not where you go to school. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: the Haunted Hillside for sending me that. Oh before we
Speaker 1: get into the interview, I want to tell you about
Speaker 1: next week's episode. I'm going to try something a little
Speaker 1: bit different. I'm going to have one of my oldest
Speaker 1: friends that I actually know from my hometown of Grander Upts,
Speaker 1: Michigan on the show. Her name is Chelsea Pummel, and
Speaker 1: I absolutely love her so much, and we recently as
Speaker 1: I'm here in my hometown of Grand up Its, Michigan.
Speaker 1: We recently, you know, got together and caught up and
Speaker 1: she has this wonderful company that is called Rose House Coaching.
Speaker 1: She's a psycho spiritual alchemist. And here's just a little
Speaker 1: thing that says on the Instagram at Rose House Coaching,
Speaker 1: she says, I liberate you out of emotional pain and
Speaker 1: spiritual confusion to a place of clarity and empowerment. Knock knock.
Speaker 1: You're a psychic, so you can work with her. She
Speaker 1: does amazing things with spiritual coaching, and we're going to
Speaker 1: get into some of the readings that she does. And
Speaker 1: what I thought would be really fun is that she's
Speaker 1: somebody that grew up and currently is back living in
Speaker 1: a haunted house and a young girl, Roz has actually had.
Speaker 3: A ghost experience.
Speaker 1: It's in that house, and so we're going to be
Speaker 1: sharing about that next week. So it will be real
Speaker 1: fun to look forward to that. All right, time for
Speaker 1: part two of Coco Peru on with the show. It's
Speaker 1: so interesting that so many people in your family have
Speaker 1: had these experiences.
Speaker 4: Yes, and then years later, my sister who had seen
Speaker 4: that Martian Leprecaun alien person moved back into that apartment
Speaker 4: in the third floor. When she was married and had
Speaker 4: her first daughter. My niece used to wake up crying
Speaker 4: that the smiling man was standing up against her crib.
Speaker 4: And so my sister was like, oh my god, you know,
Speaker 4: is this happening now to my daughter?
Speaker 1: So, oh my god, Oh no, not a smiling man.
Speaker 3: Why is it so scary if.
Speaker 1: You're smiling and you're in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: dead like you.
Speaker 3: Should that should be a happy thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, so that there's another experience that I had. Later.
Speaker 4: I was with my first boyfriend and I had my
Speaker 4: parents were in their condo in Florida for the winter,
Speaker 4: and I had lost my apartment in New York. My
Speaker 4: boyfriend at the time was going through some sort of
Speaker 4: transition with word moving back to South America, so he
Speaker 4: moved in with me into my parents' house and we
Speaker 4: were laying in Well, I'm going to tell you this
Speaker 4: part first. The next this one morning, I woke up,
Speaker 4: he was had gone into Manhattan, and I was taking
Speaker 4: the shower and I was soaping up my head and
Speaker 4: as I hit a certain part on the side of
Speaker 4: my head, I felt this sharp pain go through my
Speaker 4: head and into the center of my head, as if
Speaker 4: a needle had just been inserted into the side of
Speaker 4: my head. It was that quick boom. And as soon
Speaker 4: as I felt that I had a memory from the
Speaker 4: night before, and this was the memory, I was in bed.
Speaker 4: He was beside me. I didn't not wake up in
Speaker 4: the middle of the night. I went from probably a
Speaker 4: dead sleep to I'm wide awake laying there. There was
Speaker 4: no waking up. I was suddenly awake and aware that
Speaker 4: I'm awake. It was I don't know how to describe
Speaker 4: that feeling of It's almost like you were awake, you
Speaker 4: just don't remember, but suddenly you're allowed to remember. So
Speaker 4: I'm just laying there awake, and I know that my
Speaker 4: boyfriend is also awake, even though I can't see him.
Speaker 4: I know he's awake. And I said to him, EDWARDI
Speaker 4: he said yes, I said, somebody's in the room with us.
Speaker 4: He said, I know. And then that was it. I
Speaker 4: didn't fall asleep, that's just the memory we I When
Speaker 4: he came home that day, I asked him, I said,
Speaker 4: do you remember last night? I talked to you in
Speaker 4: the middle of the night and I and I said,
Speaker 4: you somebody's in the room. He said yeah, And he
Speaker 4: said yeah, yeah, yeah, I was talking about the dog.
Speaker 4: But the dog was in the room with us every night.
Speaker 4: That wasn't the case. And I thought it was so
Speaker 4: interesting that I hadn't remembered it until I hit that
Speaker 4: spot on my hadn't felt that sharp pain go right
Speaker 4: through my head. But did you know I have another
Speaker 4: weird memory too. I woke up when I was little
Speaker 4: and I had what I thought was a creuton shoved
Speaker 4: up my nose and I pulled it out and it
Speaker 4: was this sort of white, fibrous square and I pulled
Speaker 4: it out of my nose and I told my mom
Speaker 4: I pulled a crew tan on out of my nose.
Speaker 4: And my mom didn't know what it was and she
Speaker 4: threw it away. But that always stuck with me as well.
Speaker 4: And have you seen the unsolved mysteries.
Speaker 1: On the new one? The new one, I've only watched
Speaker 1: the first few, but I know there's an alien one.
Speaker 3: Have you seen that?
Speaker 4: Yes? I watched that one. And the only reason I
Speaker 4: I had this is very strange that you even asked
Speaker 4: me to do this, because these moments come in clumps
Speaker 4: for me. The other night, I was sitting on a
Speaker 4: couch and I had this urge to watch something that
Speaker 4: I had to do with all of this, So I
Speaker 4: googled it and the Netflix thing came up, but it
Speaker 4: wasn't on yet. If they were, it was like coming
Speaker 4: July first, I think, and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 4: have to remember to watch that. So my friend, and
Speaker 4: you may know her, Nora, had called me from New
Speaker 4: York and she said, have you watched the thing on Netflix?
Speaker 4: That that episode? I said no, but I'm going to
Speaker 4: watch it tonight. She said it reminded me of your story.
Speaker 4: So I watched it and it definitely brought all of
Speaker 4: that back. But the one thing that one of the
Speaker 4: men says was that he felt instructed to do something.
Speaker 4: So I don't want to give it away, but I
Speaker 4: also had those moments. This was when I was very young.
Speaker 4: I would feel as though I was being told to
Speaker 4: sleep on the couch rather than in my bedroom. And
Speaker 4: there were two nights I can remember where I felt
Speaker 4: as though I was told and to get up and
Speaker 4: go to the window and look out the window and
Speaker 4: that I would be given a gift of seeing something.
Speaker 4: And both those times I saw what I would describe
Speaker 4: as Ufo Krims. At the time, yes, And at the
Speaker 4: time I didn't. I was young. I hadn't seen close
Speaker 4: encounters yet. But you know, as you grow up, you
Speaker 4: just you have these weird memories of something being shoved
Speaker 4: up your nose, of you know, Peggy Lee outside your window,
Speaker 4: and all these weird things and you start putting it together.
Speaker 4: But you think this is just a child's overactive imagination, right,
Speaker 4: But then you start to meet.
Speaker 1: Other people, well, especially in your family or your neighbors, but.
Speaker 4: Even outside of my family. The more I've shared, the
Speaker 4: more I That's kind of why I feel okay talking
Speaker 4: about this, because people can think I'm full of shit.
Speaker 4: But most people start to say, well, you know, I
Speaker 4: had this experience of walking through the woods and I
Speaker 4: saw this, you know what, And everyone seems to have
Speaker 4: a story.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Now, that's what I love about this podcast.
Speaker 1: And we have a Facebook group and in people oftentimes
Speaker 1: after one of these interviews will we'll say, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I had something just like that happen, or they'll reach
Speaker 1: out to the guests and tell them. So it's interesting
Speaker 1: what it brings out, how that happens.
Speaker 4: I hope that other people have had similar experiences. When
Speaker 4: I wrote a letter to Whitley Streiber after I wrote
Speaker 4: his book, after I read his book, Excuse Me, and
Speaker 4: he invited me to a very secret meeting of other
Speaker 4: people who have had these experiences, and we all sat
Speaker 4: in a circle and everyone told this story. And I
Speaker 4: was so freak out listening to these stories. I thought,
Speaker 4: I'm never coming back to this. I wanted nothing to
Speaker 4: do with.
Speaker 3: What do you mean? So there's like it was just
Speaker 3: a gathering of like a.
Speaker 4: He had gathered people that I had written letters to him,
Speaker 4: and he wanted to create a group of almost like
Speaker 4: a support group. Yeah, people could share their stories and
Speaker 4: try to take control of something that felt so out
Speaker 4: of control to them.
Speaker 1: And did you hear things that were very similar?
Speaker 4: Yes? And I heard the things that were not so similar.
Speaker 4: What I heard the other night on that TV show
Speaker 4: was one of the young people. One of the people interviewed.
Speaker 4: She was a young girl when she believed she was abducted.
Speaker 4: She talked about seeing other children and this, and that
Speaker 4: just made me feel like when I was hypnotized and
Speaker 4: I saw babies, you know what I mean. It was
Speaker 4: just It's just one of those bizarre things certainly you
Speaker 4: know a light being frozen. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean when he hypnotized you, were you like he
Speaker 1: must have like really put you.
Speaker 4: I did not feel under I didn't feel anything. No,
Speaker 4: that was the thing. That's what was so weird was
Speaker 4: that I wasn't feeling hypnotized. I mean, in fact, I
Speaker 4: was sort of sitting there thinking and typical Coco Peru fashion.
Speaker 4: What a cracker shit. I mean, that's really funny. I've
Speaker 4: had so many weird experiences and yet I can be
Speaker 4: the biggest skeptic, the biggest Oh come on, you know,
Speaker 4: even with my own stories, I know that weird. I
Speaker 4: know that they happened. That's what's so weird, is like
Speaker 4: I can't reconcile it. Like my accident that was terrifying.
Speaker 4: I know what happened. There are things about my accident
Speaker 4: that are so bizarre. But I know that that was
Speaker 4: the brain, and the brain survives and the way it
Speaker 4: needs to survive, so I can explain it. But when
Speaker 4: you have something unexplainable happen and you're trying to shift
Speaker 4: it into like human language and human turns, you just
Speaker 4: it just goes beyond that, and at some point you
Speaker 4: just have to let it go and kind of enjoy
Speaker 4: telling the stories with people who enjoy hearing them. Yes,
Speaker 4: and it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, there's just there's things that are I
Speaker 1: don't think any of us will ever know on this earth,
Speaker 1: and right, I accept that.
Speaker 4: I have always said that. I think part of living
Speaker 4: here is a part of whether it's a religion, you
Speaker 4: believe in a god, whatever it is, there are just
Speaker 4: things we're not supposed to know, and that the joy
Speaker 4: of that is that we get to live in a mystery.
Speaker 4: And mysteries are fun, totally like, and that's what the
Speaker 4: way I wish people felt about their own religions is like,
Speaker 4: instead of saying I'm right and that religion's wrong, or
Speaker 4: make other people just be like it's all valid, it's
Speaker 4: all a mystery, and can't we all just have fun
Speaker 4: living in a mystery?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean even if you think of like
Speaker 1: watching a murder mystery or any kind of mystery show,
Speaker 1: if they told you the answer right away, that's not fun.
Speaker 4: Right, That's my point. The point is, you know, enjoy
Speaker 4: the journey, enjoy the mystery, enjoy riourney without knowing that
Speaker 4: you're probably never going to get any answer. But along
Speaker 4: the way you might meet other people like I did
Speaker 4: in those meetings when I've traveled and shared these stories,
Speaker 4: people who have had similar stories.
Speaker 1: Wait, but can I ask you about when you died?
Speaker 1: Are you cool to talk about that.
Speaker 4: I didn't die for very long, but I had I
Speaker 4: had bled so much and then in the hospital it
Speaker 4: gave me a drug too. Whatever. It was crazy and yeah,
Speaker 4: so I I did die for a few minutes.
Speaker 1: But did you have an experience when you were dead, like,
Speaker 1: do you remember any of that?
Speaker 4: I have a full memory of it, and the only
Speaker 4: thing I can say is this could have been the drugs,
Speaker 4: you know. But what I will say is I had it.
Speaker 4: I have a memory of forgetting who I was. And
Speaker 4: the only reason I know I forgot who I was
Speaker 4: is because when they started to bring me back, I
Speaker 4: remembered who I was. Otherwise I don't think I would
Speaker 4: have ever known that transition of forgetting who I was.
Speaker 4: You know, I was just very peaceful, and as I
Speaker 4: started to bring me back, I thought, oh, no, I'm
Speaker 4: going to stay here. And then as soon as I
Speaker 4: opened my eyes, everything that makes us human, that fear
Speaker 4: and that will to survive came right back with it.
Speaker 1: But when you say you want to you were going
Speaker 1: to stay here?
Speaker 4: Were you?
Speaker 3: Do you remember what here was?
Speaker 4: No? I only remember a feeling, yeah, and that feeling
Speaker 4: was just very peaceful. Now again, that could have been
Speaker 4: the drugs. You know. They said I was dead, but
Speaker 4: my brain wasn't dead yet, or whatever it was. I
Speaker 4: was definitely feeling I preferred staying where I was, but
Speaker 4: the fear all came right back. The other weird thing
Speaker 4: about that accident that it's just a little detail about
Speaker 4: how the brain works and how it wants to survive
Speaker 4: and how it can separate, was that when I first
Speaker 4: fell through the glass, I immediately started screaming, but I
Speaker 4: didn't know it was me screaming, And I was standing
Speaker 4: there in the shower, going, who is screaming like that?
Speaker 4: But my body knew it had to do that in
Speaker 4: order to stay alive. And then I got two downstairs
Speaker 4: to the second floor, and that's when I knew how
Speaker 4: bad things were because it was gruesome and I'm not
Speaker 4: going to go into detail about it, but the human
Speaker 4: part of me, the part that wanted everything to be normal,
Speaker 4: was thinking, I've got to get to the door and
Speaker 4: I've got to get help, but I'm naked, and I
Speaker 4: don't want anybody to see me naked. So I'm going
Speaker 4: to go into my father's parents bedroom and I'll get
Speaker 4: a pair of my father's underwear. And this is one
Speaker 4: of those weird moments. I walked into my parents' bedroom
Speaker 4: and they had they had they had a My mother
Speaker 4: still has this mirror, but a very large, beautiful mirror,
Speaker 4: and I remember looking in the mirror at myself, and
Speaker 4: my brain immediately erased the reflection so that I couldn't
Speaker 4: see my reflection.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, in.
Speaker 4: Order to stay alive, my body and my brain and
Speaker 4: body knew you're not allowed to look at that because
Speaker 4: that will make you pass out whatever. So you're just
Speaker 4: not going to be able to see your reflection. Lots
Speaker 4: of things, a lot of things like that where I
Speaker 4: realized the mind and the body are so separate. They
Speaker 4: work in unison together so much so that we don't
Speaker 4: even notice it. But when something like that happens, there're
Speaker 4: just parts of your brain that break off and separate,
Speaker 4: and your body's doing one thing and you're not even
Speaker 4: a way. It's just it was a horrible lesson to
Speaker 4: learn at that age of sixteen, and yet I do
Speaker 4: believe it changed my life, not in an instant, it
Speaker 4: was gradual. I'm still the same person. I still suffer
Speaker 4: all the depression and everything else that comes along with
Speaker 4: being a person. But it did inform me in lots
Speaker 4: of ways. And when I was being bullied, even after
Speaker 4: the accident, what changed for me was I thought I
Speaker 4: survived something that I wouldn't even wish on you on
Speaker 4: my worst bully, and that made me feel really strong.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and my mother said something really horrible when
Speaker 4: she was like, ah, that was your sister. She was
Speaker 4: pished you we using her bathroom, screaming no my dead sister. Last.
Speaker 4: I was like, Mom, that's a terrible.
Speaker 3: What did your family?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you said, like your dad had
Speaker 1: this experience, but when you were growing up, did your
Speaker 1: parents believe in this stuff? Did that?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: My parents kind of laughed it off. My parents, you know,
Speaker 4: my father was a truck driver. My mother was a waitress, housewife,
Speaker 4: and sometimes a secretary when we needed money. You know,
Speaker 4: I mean we were not educated people. We were simple
Speaker 4: and great neighbors. We were like a great you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. We were street smart and great people,
Speaker 4: but that kind of worlds was not a you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So my parents kind of didn't know
Speaker 4: what to make of it. And so but my mom
Speaker 4: has memories of you know, all of us laying in
Speaker 4: the backyard and watching what we thought was stars about
Speaker 4: moving and very bizarre ters and stopping and then moving
Speaker 4: and then you know, so yet we didn't talk about it.
Speaker 4: It's so weird. Even the ghost in the house, we
Speaker 4: never none of us ever said anything to each other.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing all these stories from when you were younger,
Speaker 1: but so once you became an adult, did any of
Speaker 1: this stuff continue or did you only?
Speaker 4: The last thing was when I was back in that
Speaker 4: house and that night with my boyfriend, which felt very
Speaker 4: strange to me. It really gave me chills when I
Speaker 4: had that instant memory, and I felt as though that
Speaker 4: something had happened, something strange. Nowadays, I'll be honest with you,
Speaker 4: I just I actually say when I start to feel nervous,
Speaker 4: I say I don't want to see you, and I'm
Speaker 4: telling you not to I'm done, I don't want to
Speaker 4: see this can't happen, And I say it out loud.
Speaker 1: What do you mean, like you get a feeling that
Speaker 1: there's a presence in the room.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I get a feeling. And the weird thing is,
Speaker 4: I have often felt that whenever I watch a movie
Speaker 4: or this conversation comes up, I almost feel like an
Speaker 4: experience happens around this because I feel like that's part
Speaker 4: of the thing is that then if you when you
Speaker 4: have the experience, it's it's The thing is is that
Speaker 4: they're using that as a I can't describe it except
Speaker 4: to say that the experience. Then you doubt yourself and
Speaker 4: you're thinking, oh, well, it's because I saw that movie
Speaker 4: or because I had this conversation.
Speaker 1: Totally, Well, that's what my life has become like all
Speaker 1: I well I do is I talk about this stuff.
Speaker 1: So I'm constantly like, no, that couldn't have been a
Speaker 1: goot exactly.
Speaker 4: So it's that experience where sometimes I feel like things
Speaker 4: are have happened, but it was after you know. But
Speaker 4: I almost feel like, well, that's now become a pattern.
Speaker 4: And so I basically if I feel like you know something,
Speaker 4: I just say now I don't want I don't want.
Speaker 4: I don't want this experience.
Speaker 1: But I mean, does that happen to you in your
Speaker 1: home or when you're performing somewhere or what.
Speaker 4: I've just been like. I have stayed in hotels that
Speaker 4: are haunted, and I will walk into the hotel and
Speaker 4: have asked, is this place haunted? And they a few
Speaker 4: times have said, okay, well we're not supposed to say anything,
Speaker 4: but yes, yeah. And another time I was staying in
Speaker 4: a B and b. It was a beautiful home and
Speaker 4: I just knew. I said there is a woman here.
Speaker 4: And I asked the honor family. I said, I just
Speaker 4: and he said, oh yeah, people have seen her on
Speaker 4: the staircase and she's the one that owned the house.
Speaker 1: But I, oh, why did you think that?
Speaker 4: Well? I just felt something. And I tell the ghost
Speaker 4: or the aliens or whatever, I just now say. If
Speaker 4: I start to feel like nervous, I just tell them, no,
Speaker 4: I get bury coco on them.
Speaker 1: But what if they're cocoa puffs, what if they're fans.
Speaker 4: I don't need to see them.
Speaker 3: It's like the Internet.
Speaker 4: I've taken control, and I tell them this is not
Speaker 4: going to happen. I'm done.
Speaker 1: Well, because you know, what's something I was thinking about
Speaker 1: when I was thinking about talking to you is New
Speaker 1: York and it's so fascinating that I've had so many
Speaker 1: people on this show and so many people that are
Speaker 1: from New York or lived in New York, and it's
Speaker 1: so rare that I get stories from the city.
Speaker 3: Do you why when I'm so haunted?
Speaker 4: Well, when I did the Whitley Striber meeting, most of
Speaker 4: those people who were talking about abductions, talking about humanoids,
Speaker 4: talking about men in black, they all lived in Manhattan.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, And they were having these experiences in Manhattan.
Speaker 4: So people were having these experiences.
Speaker 1: I just don't even when I think of the theaters,
Speaker 1: like all those theaters are haunted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I'm not saying that it's not haunted or anything.
Speaker 1: I just haven't heard. I was I was curious if
Speaker 1: you were going to have one about the city, But
Speaker 1: I guess no.
Speaker 4: I don't have any those stories about the city. But
Speaker 4: where I grew up, the Bronx is considered a new city, so.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a real haunted neighborhood. Do you have
Speaker 1: you talked to people that currently live there and heard
Speaker 1: anything about haunted or paranormal phenomena in that area.
Speaker 4: No, I haven't talked to any up there. It was
Speaker 4: only the stories I heard growing up. There was another
Speaker 4: woman who had I knew a woman on City Island
Speaker 4: who had a ghost that used to actually hit her,
Speaker 4: and the ghost lived in a hole in the wall.
Speaker 1: Oh god, And you.
Speaker 4: Know, she was one hundred percent serious that there was,
Speaker 4: you know, a violent ghost in her house that would
Speaker 4: hold her wrists and push her. And yeah it was.
Speaker 4: And another night, I remember being in a friend's house
Speaker 4: and I was sitting with my friend Christopher watching a movie,
Speaker 4: and above the TV was a cutout in the wall
Speaker 4: that looked up into the living room, which then looked
Speaker 4: onto a staircase. And we saw someone walk through that
Speaker 4: hole through that big what what at one time had
Speaker 4: been a window but was now just like a pass through.
Speaker 4: Someone walked by, went up the stairs, and all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, my friend Michelle appeared in the door. I said,
Speaker 4: wait a minute, you just walked upstairs, and she was like,
Speaker 4: now we're home. It's just the three of us here,
Speaker 4: and so I said, well, and I turned to Christopher,
Speaker 4: and of course he was like, holy shit, I saw
Speaker 4: it too. So it was just a very haunted place.
Speaker 4: And people were like, oh, yeah, that must have been
Speaker 4: the ghost you know, it was just that kind of
Speaker 4: a neighborhood. Oh my god, But I am curious. I've
Speaker 4: always wanted to go back to my neighbor's house whose
Speaker 4: husband haunted her home and ask the people living there
Speaker 4: now if they have had experiences.
Speaker 1: There yeah, or if she ever actually confessed yes, it
Speaker 1: is haunted.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But I don't know about you. But where I
Speaker 4: grew up, as much as I loved some of it,
Speaker 4: it is attached to a lot of trauma and bullying,
Speaker 4: and of course, so when I go up there, I'm
Speaker 4: triggered on a lot of levels. And so it's not
Speaker 4: always a it's not a place that I you know,
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, I've got to get back there with you.
Speaker 4: I don't have much family up there, no immediate family,
Speaker 4: just maybe some cousins. So it's not a place that
Speaker 4: I go to.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think about that a lot too. When I
Speaker 1: think about going home. I've just always flooded with so
Speaker 1: many and those are memories that it's like, wow, I've
Speaker 1: completely just forgotten about, Oh that one time we went
Speaker 1: to get ice cream at that place.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: It's just so weird how much comes back. It's very amazing,
Speaker 1: emotional and.
Speaker 4: That's what's so amazing to me about the brain and
Speaker 4: how it these memories just pop up. And I love
Speaker 4: talking about this stuff with you. It's unnerving for me
Speaker 4: because I said, I'm not public a but I've only
Speaker 4: ever shared these stories with friends and of course my family.
Speaker 4: But I did. At one point in one of my shows,
Speaker 4: I created a alien story that was based on you know,
Speaker 4: it's you know, I tell a lot of biographical stories,
Speaker 4: and this was probably the only story that I've ever
Speaker 4: done that wasn't real. But I was talking about Cocoa
Speaker 4: gets abducted by aliens and it's a cute, funny story.
Speaker 4: But in it, and I've heard this theory was that
Speaker 4: the aliens are actually us, just what we've evolved in
Speaker 4: and they're coming back try and traveling, and so that
Speaker 4: was the take I took on it in my monologue.
Speaker 4: And the alien that I meet and who was speaking
Speaker 4: to me on the ship is actually me in the future.
Speaker 4: And I realized that that fabulous dress she's wearing is
Speaker 4: actually my dress, and it's the dress that I wear
Speaker 4: in the show. Of course it's short on me, but
Speaker 4: a gown on her.
Speaker 3: Well, I love that. I love that premise.
Speaker 4: All Coca cares about. She's given Coco the secret of
Speaker 4: the world, and Coco's just like that dress is mine.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel all the time when I hear
Speaker 1: these ghosts. Any time I hear a ghost story, I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, well, what were they wearing? I want to know
Speaker 3: the fashion?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Do you want to hear some ghost voices?
Speaker 4: I'd love to.
Speaker 3: Okay, they get a little spooky.
Speaker 6: It is time for EVP.
Speaker 3: Or ev PSE. Do you know what an EVP is?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: I do, Okay, So it's electronic voice phenomena. You know
Speaker 1: it's gonna when somebody catches catches a ghost voice. And
Speaker 1: so I go to YouTube. I look up EVPs, all
Speaker 1: different cuts. I just I spend hours on YouTube just
Speaker 1: looking for obscure ones, famous ones, whatever, and I found
Speaker 1: I have two of them for you. The first one
Speaker 1: is from Pasadena Para Normal, which is in Pasadena, Maryland.
Speaker 3: It did not say what.
Speaker 1: The actual places where they captured this EVP, but tell
Speaker 1: me what you hear, and I'm going to give you
Speaker 1: some options.
Speaker 3: So here we go.
Speaker 1: What do you think this ghost voice is saying?
Speaker 3: I'll play it again.
Speaker 1: I only get one try No, I'll play it again.
Speaker 4: Clearly she's saying that bothers me.
Speaker 1: She's promoting.
Speaker 3: Exactly. Well, here's some options.
Speaker 2: Is it a cheesy bread, B, shipwreck, C, stick it
Speaker 2: right up your or D street cred?
Speaker 1: Me play it again.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm I'm going to say shipwrecked, although it sounds
Speaker 4: like street cred, but I'm going to say shipwrecked only
Speaker 4: because you said it was Maryland and maybe you know
Speaker 4: there was a shipwreck.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well they they said that they think it's stick
Speaker 1: it right up your which Oh no, these paranormal Pasadena people.
Speaker 4: Wow, Well, I mean I like that better.
Speaker 3: I was going.
Speaker 4: I was going like old school you.
Speaker 1: Know, yes, I know I would have never guessed stick
Speaker 1: it right up here? But here, we'll play one more time.
Speaker 4: I mean they're stretching that eve please.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's play one more. This one is from on
Speaker 1: YouTube twenty four. Petty Denny is the person's name, and
Speaker 1: this is Ghost Investigators New York is the name of
Speaker 1: the paranormal group, and they are at a home in
Speaker 1: Hanover Township, which is not in New York. It's in
Speaker 1: Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. So what is this ghost saying? This
Speaker 1: one creeped me out? Here, I played again.
Speaker 4: Okay, give me my options. Okay, it sounded like I feel.
Speaker 6: Yes, Okay, is it a I'm here, b I'm fierce,
Speaker 6: c Idea or d prime veal maybe the butcher.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with a I'm here, but I do
Speaker 4: like I'm.
Speaker 7: Fears was played again.
Speaker 3: I think it's I'm feers. Actually I'm I feel Wait.
Speaker 1: Either way, it sounds like that, like I'm fierce. It
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm too sixy. It's like that, yeah to
Speaker 1: sixty six for a mushard, it is I'm here, is
Speaker 1: what they believe. It says, yeah, I'm fierce. Well, Coco,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for thank you being on this is.
Speaker 4: And if I could just say one more thing.
Speaker 1: Please say as many things as you'd like.
Speaker 4: I just was gonna say. You know, my mom, I
Speaker 4: grew up knowing that my mom had seen her mother's ghost,
Speaker 4: and so maybe that's why my brain is just open
Speaker 4: to it. But my mom's mother had passed away when
Speaker 4: my mom was young, and so my mom was laying
Speaker 4: in bed and her mother walked into the room and
Speaker 4: came over to the crib and looked down at the baby.
Speaker 4: At my mom's new baby and she looked at my
Speaker 4: mother and smiled and then walked out of the room,
Speaker 4: and my mother said, no, please stay for a little while.
Speaker 4: And she felt as though her mother was like, I can't.
Speaker 4: And I just thought that was so beautiful that my
Speaker 4: mother felt like her mom had come back to look
Speaker 4: at the new baby. And so I grew up knowing
Speaker 4: that as well. So I feel like that's always been
Speaker 4: something in my family, you know. Just ghost stories were
Speaker 4: just something that we spoke about. We didn't speak about
Speaker 4: the ghost that was in our house necessarily, but we
Speaker 4: spoke about in the neighborhood or old ghost stories. But
Speaker 4: we get a kick out of it now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that's great.
Speaker 1: Can you tell people like what you got going on?
Speaker 3: I know you've been going live.
Speaker 4: I'm doing my online shows. I've only done two this
Speaker 4: They're called Costa Coco and people get tickets at Costacoco
Speaker 4: dot live. And I've been doing them every two weeks.
Speaker 4: I might move it to every three weeks. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I play it by year. I have different guests come on,
Speaker 4: and I sing songs, I pull an old monologue out
Speaker 4: of the Coco bolt. But just a way for me
Speaker 4: to stay connected with my my fans and to make
Speaker 4: other people feel interconnected. And it's been great, And I
Speaker 4: stop celebrating friendship. And I've had some celebrities on, but
Speaker 4: even with them, it's not about their celebrity. It's really
Speaker 4: about friendship and feeling connected. So that's what it's That's
Speaker 4: really where I'm at in my life right now.
Speaker 1: Well, I always say that the people that I look
Speaker 1: up to more than anyone are drag queens that did
Speaker 1: it long before it became a reality TV craze.
Speaker 3: And so I have so much respect.
Speaker 1: For you and you or peers and people that I'm
Speaker 1: so lucky to call friends and mentors, and.
Speaker 4: Well the best back then it was you know, it
Speaker 4: was edgy, it was political, it was sometimes even dangerous,
Speaker 4: but it just was a calling we had. And and
Speaker 4: you're you're you're of that as well. You are a comedian,
Speaker 4: you are a great actor of senior in shows, and
Speaker 4: and you have a and now you're doing this because
Speaker 4: but you have a you have a vision for yourself
Speaker 4: and it's so clear that it's bigger than just I
Speaker 4: want to be famous. There's you know, you have some authenticity,
Speaker 4: not some you have authenticity and it comes through.
Speaker 1: Oh that means so much that you noticed that.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Coco Peru.
Speaker 1: Wow, what a journey that has been and what a
Speaker 1: career she has had. Oh God, I just worship Coco.
Speaker 1: Thank you Coco for doing this. That was so cool.
Speaker 1: And when she was talking about the UFO support group situation,
Speaker 1: that was crazy. I guess I didn't know much about that.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of there's this SNL sketch when Ryan
Speaker 1: Gosling was the host from a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: with Kate McKinnon that if you want to see it,
Speaker 1: it's on YouTube. It's called Close Encounter and it's basically
Speaker 1: about three people that have had a paranormal experience with
Speaker 1: an alien entity. And it's hilarious and it's sort of
Speaker 1: a It almost has that support group feel. That. That's
Speaker 1: what I kept thinking about the whole time she was
Speaker 1: talking about that. It's really funny. Go check it out.
Speaker 3: Hey.
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Speaker 3: Who you know what.
Speaker 1: Rocky's also lived in two haunted houses. If only he
Speaker 1: could talk, he would be an amazing guest on this show.
Speaker 1: But you can follow him at Rocky the Diva on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening. I love you all, both
Speaker 1: living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to
Speaker 1: haunt me, don't haunt me.
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