1 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: What's that at. 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: The foot of my bed. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 3: It's spooky and joky. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's dead. 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: He's coming this way. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, I said. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 5: Ross Dress, Hey boo, it's me ros Dress Falas. 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: I decided to do something real wild and crazy. Okay, 9 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: So I have this really adorable dog named Rocky who 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: I adopted him out here, well, out in Los Angeles. 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: And then I got really busy and was living a 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: chaotic life and just wasn't wasn't around for him enough, 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: and so I gave him to my parents to live 14 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: in Michigan. And he's been there for a number of 15 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: years now and it's time to get him back. And 16 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: so I've been talking with my parents for a while 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: now about getting him back, and I thought, well, I 18 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: really don't have a whole lot to do these days, 19 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: and it's scary to go flying right now. So I 20 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: decided to put on a mask and sanitize my life 21 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: away and drive by myself to Michigan, which I've already done. 22 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: I'm currently in Michigan at this moment and heading right 23 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: back to Los Angeles, so a quick little visit to 24 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: snatch up my dog. But the good news is now I. 25 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: Have a dog. 26 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: And it's such a shame because I passed by so 27 00:01:54,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: many iconic haunted places Colorado, you know, Iowa, Nebraska. But unfortunately, 28 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: you know, can't really do a whole lot right now. 29 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: But maybe I'll do this trip again sometime and go 30 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: to some haunted places with Rocky, my puppy. And you know, 31 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: he's one of these dogs that's just so cute and 32 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: so sweet. I can't take him anywhere without everybody falling 33 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: in love with him. And so you know, he's going 34 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: to come to Hollywood and we're going to get him 35 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: an agent and we're gonna live that Hollywood life. I'm 36 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: going to be a real stage mother from now on. 37 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: So took him out of the Midwest and now we're 38 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: going back to Los Angeles. But I would love if 39 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: you would follow Rocky. I just set up an Instagram 40 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: for him because we're going to make him, you know, 41 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: an instacelab. You know, he's a SoCal dog now. So 42 00:02:54,280 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: he is on Instagram at Rocky the Diva, the diva 43 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: and a boy, is he ever a diva? And let 44 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: me promise you there will be some fashion looks. There 45 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: will be some matching fashion looks between the two of us, 46 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: so get ready for some rocky content. And also, don't worry, 47 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: he will be whenever we have live shows or anything. 48 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna be there in his little ghost outfit that 49 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm yet to get him. So exciting, crazy week I 50 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: have had, but we've got part two of Coocoo Peru today, 51 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: which I am so excited about. 52 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: We got great feedback. 53 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening last week and for sharing 54 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: it and you know, tweeting about it and posting about 55 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: it on Instagram. We love an insta story, we love 56 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: a shout out, so thank you. I really appreciate that. 57 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: And trust me, she does not disappoint with a part 58 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: two today. But before we get into that, I wanted 59 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: to read a listener story that was posted in the 60 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: Facebook group Ghosted by rasdres Velaise. This comes from the 61 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: Haunted Hillside. The Haunted Hillside writes, I used to work 62 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: at a boarding school as a janitor slash maintenance worker. 63 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 1: The building itself is an old building with a lot 64 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: of tragic history and very haunted. The building started as 65 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: a simple hotel, but when most of the building burnt down, 66 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: it was rebuilt into a luxurious resort As business slowed down, 67 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: the resort was eventually sold and converted into a parrison 68 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: from the prison, it was turned back into a hotel, 69 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: and finally bought and converted into a boarding school where 70 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: I was employed. While that building has had some lives, 71 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: Actually it reminded me way. I'll get back to the 72 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: story in a second, but it reminded me of the 73 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: John Hill episode if you haven't heard that one where 74 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: he stayed at this place that's like now an apartment 75 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: building that used to be a prisoner or something like that. 76 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: Real spooky. Okay, back to the story. In its over 77 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: one hundred year history, the place had its share of deaths. 78 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: During the fire of the original hotel, the owner and 79 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: his family perished in the flames. With the construction of 80 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: the luxury resorts, the new owner built a golf course 81 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: and placed one of the eighteen holes right on top 82 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: of a sacred Indian mound common to the area. They're right, 83 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: I know it's a common ghost story trope, but it 84 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 1: is documented in historical records. Thank you for clarifying. During 85 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: the time of the resort, two murders also occurred on 86 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: the property, the first as a maid who worked for 87 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: the resort and was shot and killed on the sun 88 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: porch of the building by her husband, who believed she 89 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: was cheating on him with another resort employee. The second 90 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: was a young African American boy who worked on the 91 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: resort collecting water from a nearby natural spring for the 92 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: resort guests. Unfortunately, there's not much information about him other 93 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: than that he was shot and killed. When the building 94 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: was converted to a prison, the third floor of the 95 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: north wing was converted to the isolation area of the prison. 96 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: This was created by building four iron cells, which remain 97 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: there today, as the third floor was sealed off and 98 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: never remodeled. A young woman serving time in the prison 99 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: hung herself in one of these cells after carving her 100 00:06:54,839 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: suicide note into the wall of said cell. Suicide note 101 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: is still there to this day. Fast forward to today. 102 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: The place is very attractive. The fire alarm often goes off. 103 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: Oh I said attractive, I meant active. The place is 104 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: very active. The fire alarm goes off and is accompanied 105 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: with the smell of smoke. However, after investigating what triggered 106 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: the alarm, no one can find anything and the smell 107 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: is gone. During one of these alarm triggers, a staff 108 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: was clearing the main floor of the building. When she 109 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: entered the dining hall, she saw an elderly couple sitting 110 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: at one of the tables. Before she could say anything 111 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: to the couple, they just faded away. On the same 112 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: floor of the dining hall, several staff and students have 113 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: reported seeing a woman in a white dress walking the 114 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: sun porch and main halla. I personally believe she was 115 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: the murdered employee. Everyone that Caesar says that she just 116 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: is all of a sudden there and then just as 117 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: quickly she's gone. But she's always there long enough that 118 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: it's more than just a glimpse. The second floor, where 119 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: the student dorm rooms are located, have their own hauntings. 120 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: These are more residual from what I have gathered. The 121 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: floor is split into two wings. On the north wing, 122 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: a black mist is often seen floating down the hallway. 123 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: On the south wing, a man in a hat is 124 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: often seen leaving the last dorm room and walking across 125 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: the hall through the locked off doors that lead to 126 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: the now dilapidated third floor. This spirit is just like 127 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: a movie on replay. He never changes his behavior, He 128 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: just simply crosses the hall. Students down this same home, 129 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: and most often the same room mentioned above, report things 130 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: flying forcefully off of their dressers. They have also reported 131 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: seeing faces appear peeking into their windows, which are located 132 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: fifty plus feet off the ground. On top of all that, 133 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: the faint sound of nineteen twenties to thirty's big band 134 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: music can be heard coming from the main lobby. I 135 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: myself have heard this. Students staying in dorms directly above 136 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: the area where the isolation cells are held often here footsteps, 137 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: the rattling of chains, and the slamming of heavy prison doors. 138 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: I won't say they don't know about what's on the 139 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: third floor, but I know the school doesn't advertise it either. 140 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: I keep in touch with people that work there, and 141 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: they recently added security cameras in the building, specifically the bay. 142 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: Most of the basement is closed off for maintenance and laundry, 143 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: et cetera, but there is an extra common area where 144 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: students can gather and watch movies, etc. Apparently, these cameras 145 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: recently caught an orb I know, floating from a seat 146 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: two seat, almost like it was Goldilocks trying to find 147 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: the perfect place to sit. After the orb had tried 148 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: four or five chairs. It just vanished to end on 149 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: a positive note. I, along with some other staff, managed 150 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: to sneak a spirit box into the third floor. After 151 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: another male staff and myself attempted to talk to the 152 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: spirit of the woman who had killed herself, the two 153 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: female coworkers who were with us took over. The spirit 154 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: box started going crazy. Most answers were just yes or no, 155 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: but at some point a voice came through the static 156 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: and said something to the extent of I'm. 157 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 6: Here to watch over the girls. 158 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: I added that voice to my own. I'd love to 159 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: tell you all the name of the building, but because 160 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: it is still a functioning school, I will keep that 161 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: information to myself. Wow, that place sounds terrifying. Hope it's 162 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: not where you go to school. Thank you so much 163 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: the Haunted Hillside for sending me that. Oh before we 164 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: get into the interview, I want to tell you about 165 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: next week's episode. I'm going to try something a little 166 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: bit different. I'm going to have one of my oldest 167 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: friends that I actually know from my hometown of Grander Upts, 168 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: Michigan on the show. Her name is Chelsea Pummel, and 169 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: I absolutely love her so much, and we recently as 170 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm here in my hometown of Grand up Its, Michigan. 171 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: We recently, you know, got together and caught up and 172 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: she has this wonderful company that is called Rose House Coaching. 173 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: She's a psycho spiritual alchemist. And here's just a little 174 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: thing that says on the Instagram at Rose House Coaching, 175 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: she says, I liberate you out of emotional pain and 176 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: spiritual confusion to a place of clarity and empowerment. Knock knock. 177 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: You're a psychic, so you can work with her. She 178 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: does amazing things with spiritual coaching, and we're going to 179 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: get into some of the readings that she does. And 180 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: what I thought would be really fun is that she's 181 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: somebody that grew up and currently is back living in 182 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: a haunted house and a young girl, Roz has actually had. 183 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: A ghost experience. 184 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: It's in that house, and so we're going to be 185 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: sharing about that next week. So it will be real 186 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: fun to look forward to that. All right, time for 187 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: part two of Coco Peru on with the show. It's 188 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: so interesting that so many people in your family have 189 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,479 Speaker 1: had these experiences. 190 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 4: Yes, and then years later, my sister who had seen 191 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 4: that Martian Leprecaun alien person moved back into that apartment 192 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 4: in the third floor. When she was married and had 193 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: her first daughter. My niece used to wake up crying 194 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 4: that the smiling man was standing up against her crib. 195 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 4: And so my sister was like, oh my god, you know, 196 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: is this happening now to my daughter? 197 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: So, oh my god, Oh no, not a smiling man. 198 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: Why is it so scary if. 199 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: You're smiling and you're in the middle of the night, 200 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: dead like you. 201 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: Should that should be a happy thing. 202 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, so that there's another experience that I had. Later. 203 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 4: I was with my first boyfriend and I had my 204 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 4: parents were in their condo in Florida for the winter, 205 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: and I had lost my apartment in New York. My 206 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: boyfriend at the time was going through some sort of 207 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: transition with word moving back to South America, so he 208 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: moved in with me into my parents' house and we 209 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: were laying in Well, I'm going to tell you this 210 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: part first. The next this one morning, I woke up, 211 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: he was had gone into Manhattan, and I was taking 212 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 4: the shower and I was soaping up my head and 213 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 4: as I hit a certain part on the side of 214 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: my head, I felt this sharp pain go through my 215 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: head and into the center of my head, as if 216 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: a needle had just been inserted into the side of 217 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 4: my head. It was that quick boom. And as soon 218 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: as I felt that I had a memory from the 219 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: night before, and this was the memory, I was in bed. 220 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 4: He was beside me. I didn't not wake up in 221 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: the middle of the night. I went from probably a 222 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 4: dead sleep to I'm wide awake laying there. There was 223 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: no waking up. I was suddenly awake and aware that 224 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 4: I'm awake. It was I don't know how to describe 225 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 4: that feeling of It's almost like you were awake, you 226 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 4: just don't remember, but suddenly you're allowed to remember. So 227 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: I'm just laying there awake, and I know that my 228 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 4: boyfriend is also awake, even though I can't see him. 229 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: I know he's awake. And I said to him, EDWARDI 230 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 4: he said yes, I said, somebody's in the room with us. 231 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: He said, I know. And then that was it. I 232 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 4: didn't fall asleep, that's just the memory we I When 233 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 4: he came home that day, I asked him, I said, 234 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 4: do you remember last night? I talked to you in 235 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: the middle of the night and I and I said, 236 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 4: you somebody's in the room. He said yeah, And he 237 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: said yeah, yeah, yeah, I was talking about the dog. 238 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: But the dog was in the room with us every night. 239 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 4: That wasn't the case. And I thought it was so 240 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: interesting that I hadn't remembered it until I hit that 241 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: spot on my hadn't felt that sharp pain go right 242 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 4: through my head. But did you know I have another 243 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: weird memory too. I woke up when I was little 244 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 4: and I had what I thought was a creuton shoved 245 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: up my nose and I pulled it out and it 246 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: was this sort of white, fibrous square and I pulled 247 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 4: it out of my nose and I told my mom 248 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: I pulled a crew tan on out of my nose. 249 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 4: And my mom didn't know what it was and she 250 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: threw it away. But that always stuck with me as well. 251 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: And have you seen the unsolved mysteries. 252 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: On the new one? The new one, I've only watched 253 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: the first few, but I know there's an alien one. 254 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: Have you seen that? 255 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 4: Yes? I watched that one. And the only reason I 256 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: I had this is very strange that you even asked 257 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: me to do this, because these moments come in clumps 258 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: for me. The other night, I was sitting on a 259 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: couch and I had this urge to watch something that 260 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 4: I had to do with all of this, So I 261 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: googled it and the Netflix thing came up, but it 262 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: wasn't on yet. If they were, it was like coming 263 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 4: July first, I think, and I was like, oh, I 264 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 4: have to remember to watch that. So my friend, and 265 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: you may know her, Nora, had called me from New 266 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: York and she said, have you watched the thing on Netflix? 267 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 4: That that episode? I said no, but I'm going to 268 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 4: watch it tonight. She said it reminded me of your story. 269 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 4: So I watched it and it definitely brought all of 270 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 4: that back. But the one thing that one of the 271 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 4: men says was that he felt instructed to do something. 272 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 4: So I don't want to give it away, but I 273 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 4: also had those moments. This was when I was very young. 274 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 4: I would feel as though I was being told to 275 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: sleep on the couch rather than in my bedroom. And 276 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 4: there were two nights I can remember where I felt 277 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 4: as though I was told and to get up and 278 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 4: go to the window and look out the window and 279 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 4: that I would be given a gift of seeing something. 280 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 4: And both those times I saw what I would describe 281 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: as Ufo Krims. At the time, yes, And at the 282 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: time I didn't. I was young. I hadn't seen close 283 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: encounters yet. But you know, as you grow up, you 284 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 4: just you have these weird memories of something being shoved 285 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 4: up your nose, of you know, Peggy Lee outside your window, 286 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: and all these weird things and you start putting it together. 287 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: But you think this is just a child's overactive imagination, right, 288 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 4: But then you start to meet. 289 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: Other people, well, especially in your family or your neighbors, but. 290 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 4: Even outside of my family. The more I've shared, the 291 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 4: more I That's kind of why I feel okay talking 292 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 4: about this, because people can think I'm full of shit. 293 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 4: But most people start to say, well, you know, I 294 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: had this experience of walking through the woods and I 295 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,239 Speaker 4: saw this, you know what, And everyone seems to have 296 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 4: a story. 297 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Now, that's what I love about this podcast. 298 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: And we have a Facebook group and in people oftentimes 299 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: after one of these interviews will we'll say, oh my god, 300 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: I had something just like that happen, or they'll reach 301 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: out to the guests and tell them. So it's interesting 302 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: what it brings out, how that happens. 303 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 4: I hope that other people have had similar experiences. When 304 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 4: I wrote a letter to Whitley Streiber after I wrote 305 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 4: his book, after I read his book, Excuse Me, and 306 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 4: he invited me to a very secret meeting of other 307 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 4: people who have had these experiences, and we all sat 308 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: in a circle and everyone told this story. And I 309 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: was so freak out listening to these stories. I thought, 310 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 4: I'm never coming back to this. I wanted nothing to 311 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 4: do with. 312 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 3: What do you mean? So there's like it was just 313 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 3: a gathering of like a. 314 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 4: He had gathered people that I had written letters to him, 315 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: and he wanted to create a group of almost like 316 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 4: a support group. Yeah, people could share their stories and 317 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 4: try to take control of something that felt so out 318 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 4: of control to them. 319 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: And did you hear things that were very similar? 320 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 4: Yes? And I heard the things that were not so similar. 321 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: What I heard the other night on that TV show 322 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: was one of the young people. One of the people interviewed. 323 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: She was a young girl when she believed she was abducted. 324 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 4: She talked about seeing other children and this, and that 325 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: just made me feel like when I was hypnotized and 326 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 4: I saw babies, you know what I mean. It was 327 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 4: just It's just one of those bizarre things certainly you 328 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 4: know a light being frozen. Yeah, definitely. 329 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean when he hypnotized you, were you like he 330 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: must have like really put you. 331 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 4: I did not feel under I didn't feel anything. No, 332 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 4: that was the thing. That's what was so weird was 333 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: that I wasn't feeling hypnotized. I mean, in fact, I 334 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 4: was sort of sitting there thinking and typical Coco Peru fashion. 335 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: What a cracker shit. I mean, that's really funny. I've 336 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: had so many weird experiences and yet I can be 337 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 4: the biggest skeptic, the biggest Oh come on, you know, 338 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 4: even with my own stories, I know that weird. I 339 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 4: know that they happened. That's what's so weird, is like 340 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: I can't reconcile it. Like my accident that was terrifying. 341 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 4: I know what happened. There are things about my accident 342 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 4: that are so bizarre. But I know that that was 343 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 4: the brain, and the brain survives and the way it 344 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: needs to survive, so I can explain it. But when 345 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 4: you have something unexplainable happen and you're trying to shift 346 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 4: it into like human language and human turns, you just 347 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 4: it just goes beyond that, and at some point you 348 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 4: just have to let it go and kind of enjoy 349 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: telling the stories with people who enjoy hearing them. Yes, 350 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 4: and it is what it is. 351 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, there's just there's things that are I 352 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: don't think any of us will ever know on this earth, 353 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: and right, I accept that. 354 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 4: I have always said that. I think part of living 355 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 4: here is a part of whether it's a religion, you 356 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 4: believe in a god, whatever it is, there are just 357 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 4: things we're not supposed to know, and that the joy 358 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 4: of that is that we get to live in a mystery. 359 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 4: And mysteries are fun, totally like, and that's what the 360 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 4: way I wish people felt about their own religions is like, 361 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: instead of saying I'm right and that religion's wrong, or 362 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 4: make other people just be like it's all valid, it's 363 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 4: all a mystery, and can't we all just have fun 364 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: living in a mystery? 365 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean even if you think of like 366 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: watching a murder mystery or any kind of mystery show, 367 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: if they told you the answer right away, that's not fun. 368 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 4: Right, That's my point. The point is, you know, enjoy 369 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 4: the journey, enjoy the mystery, enjoy riourney without knowing that 370 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: you're probably never going to get any answer. But along 371 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 4: the way you might meet other people like I did 372 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: in those meetings when I've traveled and shared these stories, 373 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: people who have had similar stories. 374 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: Wait, but can I ask you about when you died? 375 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: Are you cool to talk about that. 376 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 4: I didn't die for very long, but I had I 377 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: had bled so much and then in the hospital it 378 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 4: gave me a drug too. Whatever. It was crazy and yeah, 379 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 4: so I I did die for a few minutes. 380 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: But did you have an experience when you were dead, like, 381 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: do you remember any of that? 382 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: I have a full memory of it, and the only 383 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 4: thing I can say is this could have been the drugs, 384 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 4: you know. But what I will say is I had it. 385 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 4: I have a memory of forgetting who I was. And 386 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: the only reason I know I forgot who I was 387 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 4: is because when they started to bring me back, I 388 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 4: remembered who I was. Otherwise I don't think I would 389 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: have ever known that transition of forgetting who I was. 390 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 4: You know, I was just very peaceful, and as I 391 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 4: started to bring me back, I thought, oh, no, I'm 392 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 4: going to stay here. And then as soon as I 393 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 4: opened my eyes, everything that makes us human, that fear 394 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 4: and that will to survive came right back with it. 395 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: But when you say you want to you were going 396 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: to stay here? 397 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 4: Were you? 398 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: Do you remember what here was? 399 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 4: No? I only remember a feeling, yeah, and that feeling 400 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 4: was just very peaceful. Now again, that could have been 401 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: the drugs. You know. They said I was dead, but 402 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 4: my brain wasn't dead yet, or whatever it was. I 403 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: was definitely feeling I preferred staying where I was, but 404 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 4: the fear all came right back. The other weird thing 405 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 4: about that accident that it's just a little detail about 406 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 4: how the brain works and how it wants to survive 407 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 4: and how it can separate, was that when I first 408 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 4: fell through the glass, I immediately started screaming, but I 409 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 4: didn't know it was me screaming, And I was standing 410 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 4: there in the shower, going, who is screaming like that? 411 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 4: But my body knew it had to do that in 412 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: order to stay alive. And then I got two downstairs 413 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 4: to the second floor, and that's when I knew how 414 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 4: bad things were because it was gruesome and I'm not 415 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 4: going to go into detail about it, but the human 416 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: part of me, the part that wanted everything to be normal, 417 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: was thinking, I've got to get to the door and 418 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: I've got to get help, but I'm naked, and I 419 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: don't want anybody to see me naked. So I'm going 420 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 4: to go into my father's parents bedroom and I'll get 421 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 4: a pair of my father's underwear. And this is one 422 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 4: of those weird moments. I walked into my parents' bedroom 423 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 4: and they had they had they had a My mother 424 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 4: still has this mirror, but a very large, beautiful mirror, 425 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 4: and I remember looking in the mirror at myself, and 426 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 4: my brain immediately erased the reflection so that I couldn't 427 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: see my reflection. 428 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: Oh my God, in. 429 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 4: Order to stay alive, my body and my brain and 430 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 4: body knew you're not allowed to look at that because 431 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 4: that will make you pass out whatever. So you're just 432 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 4: not going to be able to see your reflection. Lots 433 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 4: of things, a lot of things like that where I 434 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 4: realized the mind and the body are so separate. They 435 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 4: work in unison together so much so that we don't 436 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 4: even notice it. But when something like that happens, there're 437 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 4: just parts of your brain that break off and separate, 438 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: and your body's doing one thing and you're not even 439 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 4: a way. It's just it was a horrible lesson to 440 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,239 Speaker 4: learn at that age of sixteen, and yet I do 441 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 4: believe it changed my life, not in an instant, it 442 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 4: was gradual. I'm still the same person. I still suffer 443 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 4: all the depression and everything else that comes along with 444 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 4: being a person. But it did inform me in lots 445 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 4: of ways. And when I was being bullied, even after 446 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 4: the accident, what changed for me was I thought I 447 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 4: survived something that I wouldn't even wish on you on 448 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 4: my worst bully, and that made me feel really strong. 449 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow. 450 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 4: So yeah, and my mother said something really horrible when 451 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 4: she was like, ah, that was your sister. She was 452 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: pished you we using her bathroom, screaming no my dead sister. Last. 453 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: I was like, Mom, that's a terrible. 454 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 3: What did your family? 455 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I know you said, like your dad had 456 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: this experience, but when you were growing up, did your 457 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: parents believe in this stuff? Did that? 458 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: Well? 459 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 4: My parents kind of laughed it off. My parents, you know, 460 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: my father was a truck driver. My mother was a waitress, housewife, 461 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 4: and sometimes a secretary when we needed money. You know, 462 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 4: I mean we were not educated people. We were simple 463 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 4: and great neighbors. We were like a great you know 464 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 4: what I mean. We were street smart and great people, 465 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 4: but that kind of worlds was not a you know 466 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 4: what I mean. So my parents kind of didn't know 467 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 4: what to make of it. And so but my mom 468 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 4: has memories of you know, all of us laying in 469 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 4: the backyard and watching what we thought was stars about 470 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 4: moving and very bizarre ters and stopping and then moving 471 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 4: and then you know, so yet we didn't talk about it. 472 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 4: It's so weird. Even the ghost in the house, we 473 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 4: never none of us ever said anything to each other. 474 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm hearing all these stories from when you were younger, 475 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: but so once you became an adult, did any of 476 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: this stuff continue or did you only? 477 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 4: The last thing was when I was back in that 478 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: house and that night with my boyfriend, which felt very 479 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 4: strange to me. It really gave me chills when I 480 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 4: had that instant memory, and I felt as though that 481 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 4: something had happened, something strange. Nowadays, I'll be honest with you, 482 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 4: I just I actually say when I start to feel nervous, 483 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 4: I say I don't want to see you, and I'm 484 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 4: telling you not to I'm done, I don't want to 485 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: see this can't happen, And I say it out loud. 486 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: What do you mean, like you get a feeling that 487 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: there's a presence in the room. 488 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 4: Sometimes I get a feeling. And the weird thing is, 489 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 4: I have often felt that whenever I watch a movie 490 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 4: or this conversation comes up, I almost feel like an 491 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 4: experience happens around this because I feel like that's part 492 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 4: of the thing is that then if you when you 493 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 4: have the experience, it's it's The thing is is that 494 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 4: they're using that as a I can't describe it except 495 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 4: to say that the experience. Then you doubt yourself and 496 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 4: you're thinking, oh, well, it's because I saw that movie 497 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 4: or because I had this conversation. 498 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: Totally, Well, that's what my life has become like all 499 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: I well I do is I talk about this stuff. 500 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: So I'm constantly like, no, that couldn't have been a 501 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: goot exactly. 502 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 4: So it's that experience where sometimes I feel like things 503 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 4: are have happened, but it was after you know. But 504 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: I almost feel like, well, that's now become a pattern. 505 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 4: And so I basically if I feel like you know something, 506 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 4: I just say now I don't want I don't want. 507 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 4: I don't want this experience. 508 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: But I mean, does that happen to you in your 509 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: home or when you're performing somewhere or what. 510 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: I've just been like. I have stayed in hotels that 511 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: are haunted, and I will walk into the hotel and 512 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: have asked, is this place haunted? And they a few 513 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 4: times have said, okay, well we're not supposed to say anything, 514 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 4: but yes, yeah. And another time I was staying in 515 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 4: a B and b. It was a beautiful home and 516 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 4: I just knew. I said there is a woman here. 517 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 4: And I asked the honor family. I said, I just 518 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 4: and he said, oh yeah, people have seen her on 519 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 4: the staircase and she's the one that owned the house. 520 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: But I, oh, why did you think that? 521 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 4: Well? I just felt something. And I tell the ghost 522 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 4: or the aliens or whatever, I just now say. If 523 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 4: I start to feel like nervous, I just tell them, no, 524 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 4: I get bury coco on them. 525 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: But what if they're cocoa puffs, what if they're fans. 526 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 4: I don't need to see them. 527 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 3: It's like the Internet. 528 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 4: I've taken control, and I tell them this is not 529 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 4: going to happen. I'm done. 530 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: Well, because you know, what's something I was thinking about 531 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: when I was thinking about talking to you is New 532 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: York and it's so fascinating that I've had so many 533 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: people on this show and so many people that are 534 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: from New York or lived in New York, and it's 535 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: so rare that I get stories from the city. 536 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 3: Do you why when I'm so haunted? 537 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 4: Well, when I did the Whitley Striber meeting, most of 538 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 4: those people who were talking about abductions, talking about humanoids, 539 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 4: talking about men in black, they all lived in Manhattan. 540 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 4: Oh wow, And they were having these experiences in Manhattan. 541 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: So people were having these experiences. 542 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: I just don't even when I think of the theaters, 543 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: like all those theaters are haunted. 544 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, definitely. 545 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 546 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: I just I'm not saying that it's not haunted or anything. 547 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: I just haven't heard. I was I was curious if 548 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: you were going to have one about the city, But 549 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: I guess no. 550 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 4: I don't have any those stories about the city. But 551 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 4: where I grew up, the Bronx is considered a new city, so. 552 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: That sounds like a real haunted neighborhood. Do you have 553 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: you talked to people that currently live there and heard 554 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: anything about haunted or paranormal phenomena in that area. 555 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: No, I haven't talked to any up there. It was 556 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 4: only the stories I heard growing up. There was another 557 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 4: woman who had I knew a woman on City Island 558 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 4: who had a ghost that used to actually hit her, 559 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 4: and the ghost lived in a hole in the wall. 560 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: Oh god, And you. 561 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 4: Know, she was one hundred percent serious that there was, 562 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 4: you know, a violent ghost in her house that would 563 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 4: hold her wrists and push her. And yeah it was. 564 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 4: And another night, I remember being in a friend's house 565 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 4: and I was sitting with my friend Christopher watching a movie, 566 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 4: and above the TV was a cutout in the wall 567 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: that looked up into the living room, which then looked 568 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 4: onto a staircase. And we saw someone walk through that 569 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 4: hole through that big what what at one time had 570 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 4: been a window but was now just like a pass through. 571 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 4: Someone walked by, went up the stairs, and all of 572 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 4: a sudden, my friend Michelle appeared in the door. I said, 573 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 4: wait a minute, you just walked upstairs, and she was like, 574 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 4: now we're home. It's just the three of us here, 575 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 4: and so I said, well, and I turned to Christopher, 576 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 4: and of course he was like, holy shit, I saw 577 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 4: it too. So it was just a very haunted place. 578 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 4: And people were like, oh, yeah, that must have been 579 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 4: the ghost you know, it was just that kind of 580 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 4: a neighborhood. Oh my god, But I am curious. I've 581 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 4: always wanted to go back to my neighbor's house whose 582 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 4: husband haunted her home and ask the people living there 583 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 4: now if they have had experiences. 584 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: There yeah, or if she ever actually confessed yes, it 585 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: is haunted. 586 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. But I don't know about you. But where I 587 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 4: grew up, as much as I loved some of it, 588 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 4: it is attached to a lot of trauma and bullying, 589 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 4: and of course, so when I go up there, I'm 590 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 4: triggered on a lot of levels. And so it's not 591 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 4: always a it's not a place that I you know, 592 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 4: it's like, oh, I've got to get back there with you. 593 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 4: I don't have much family up there, no immediate family, 594 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 4: just maybe some cousins. So it's not a place that 595 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 4: I go to. 596 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think about that a lot too. When I 597 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: think about going home. I've just always flooded with so 598 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: many and those are memories that it's like, wow, I've 599 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: completely just forgotten about, Oh that one time we went 600 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: to get ice cream at that place. 601 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 3: Right. 602 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: It's just so weird how much comes back. It's very amazing, 603 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: emotional and. 604 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 4: That's what's so amazing to me about the brain and 605 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 4: how it these memories just pop up. And I love 606 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 4: talking about this stuff with you. It's unnerving for me 607 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,919 Speaker 4: because I said, I'm not public a but I've only 608 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 4: ever shared these stories with friends and of course my family. 609 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 4: But I did. At one point in one of my shows, 610 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 4: I created a alien story that was based on you know, 611 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 4: it's you know, I tell a lot of biographical stories, 612 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 4: and this was probably the only story that I've ever 613 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 4: done that wasn't real. But I was talking about Cocoa 614 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 4: gets abducted by aliens and it's a cute, funny story. 615 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 4: But in it, and I've heard this theory was that 616 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 4: the aliens are actually us, just what we've evolved in 617 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 4: and they're coming back try and traveling, and so that 618 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 4: was the take I took on it in my monologue. 619 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 4: And the alien that I meet and who was speaking 620 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 4: to me on the ship is actually me in the future. 621 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 4: And I realized that that fabulous dress she's wearing is 622 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 4: actually my dress, and it's the dress that I wear 623 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 4: in the show. Of course it's short on me, but 624 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 4: a gown on her. 625 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 3: Well, I love that. I love that premise. 626 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 4: All Coca cares about. She's given Coco the secret of 627 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,479 Speaker 4: the world, and Coco's just like that dress is mine. 628 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: That's how I feel all the time when I hear 629 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: these ghosts. Any time I hear a ghost story, I'm. 630 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: Like, well, what were they wearing? I want to know 631 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 3: the fashion? 632 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 633 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 3: Do you want to hear some ghost voices? 634 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 4: I'd love to. 635 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,720 Speaker 3: Okay, they get a little spooky. 636 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 6: It is time for EVP. 637 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 3: Or ev PSE. Do you know what an EVP is? 638 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 4: Yes? 639 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: I do, Okay, So it's electronic voice phenomena. You know 640 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna when somebody catches catches a ghost voice. And 641 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 1: so I go to YouTube. I look up EVPs, all 642 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: different cuts. I just I spend hours on YouTube just 643 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: looking for obscure ones, famous ones, whatever, and I found 644 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: I have two of them for you. The first one 645 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: is from Pasadena Para Normal, which is in Pasadena, Maryland. 646 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 3: It did not say what. 647 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: The actual places where they captured this EVP, but tell 648 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: me what you hear, and I'm going to give you 649 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: some options. 650 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 3: So here we go. 651 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: What do you think this ghost voice is saying? 652 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 3: I'll play it again. 653 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: I only get one try No, I'll play it again. 654 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 4: Clearly she's saying that bothers me. 655 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: She's promoting. 656 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 3: Exactly. Well, here's some options. 657 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 2: Is it a cheesy bread, B, shipwreck, C, stick it 658 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 2: right up your or D street cred? 659 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: Me play it again. 660 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 4: Well, I'm I'm going to say shipwrecked, although it sounds 661 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 4: like street cred, but I'm going to say shipwrecked only 662 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 4: because you said it was Maryland and maybe you know 663 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 4: there was a shipwreck. 664 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Well they they said that they think it's stick 665 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,760 Speaker 1: it right up your which Oh no, these paranormal Pasadena people. 666 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 4: Wow, Well, I mean I like that better. 667 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 3: I was going. 668 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 4: I was going like old school you. 669 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: Know, yes, I know I would have never guessed stick 670 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: it right up here? But here, we'll play one more time. 671 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 4: I mean they're stretching that eve please. 672 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: Okay, let's play one more. This one is from on 673 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: YouTube twenty four. Petty Denny is the person's name, and 674 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: this is Ghost Investigators New York is the name of 675 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: the paranormal group, and they are at a home in 676 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: Hanover Township, which is not in New York. It's in 677 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania. So what is this ghost saying? This 678 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: one creeped me out? Here, I played again. 679 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 4: Okay, give me my options. Okay, it sounded like I feel. 680 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 6: Yes, Okay, is it a I'm here, b I'm fierce, 681 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 6: c Idea or d prime veal maybe the butcher. 682 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with a I'm here, but I do 683 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 4: like I'm. 684 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 7: Fears was played again. 685 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 3: I think it's I'm feers. Actually I'm I feel Wait. 686 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: Either way, it sounds like that, like I'm fierce. It 687 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 1: sounds like I'm too sixy. It's like that, yeah to 688 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: sixty six for a mushard, it is I'm here, is 689 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: what they believe. It says, yeah, I'm fierce. Well, Coco, 690 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: thank you so much for thank you being on this is. 691 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 4: And if I could just say one more thing. 692 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: Please say as many things as you'd like. 693 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 4: I just was gonna say. You know, my mom, I 694 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 4: grew up knowing that my mom had seen her mother's ghost, 695 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 4: and so maybe that's why my brain is just open 696 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 4: to it. But my mom's mother had passed away when 697 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,479 Speaker 4: my mom was young, and so my mom was laying 698 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 4: in bed and her mother walked into the room and 699 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 4: came over to the crib and looked down at the baby. 700 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 4: At my mom's new baby and she looked at my 701 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,959 Speaker 4: mother and smiled and then walked out of the room, 702 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 4: and my mother said, no, please stay for a little while. 703 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 4: And she felt as though her mother was like, I can't. 704 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 4: And I just thought that was so beautiful that my 705 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 4: mother felt like her mom had come back to look 706 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 4: at the new baby. And so I grew up knowing 707 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 4: that as well. So I feel like that's always been 708 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 4: something in my family, you know. Just ghost stories were 709 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 4: just something that we spoke about. We didn't speak about 710 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 4: the ghost that was in our house necessarily, but we 711 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 4: spoke about in the neighborhood or old ghost stories. But 712 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 4: we get a kick out of it now. 713 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that's great. 714 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: Can you tell people like what you got going on? 715 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 3: I know you've been going live. 716 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 4: I'm doing my online shows. I've only done two this 717 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 4: They're called Costa Coco and people get tickets at Costacoco 718 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 4: dot live. And I've been doing them every two weeks. 719 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 4: I might move it to every three weeks. I don't know. 720 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 4: I play it by year. I have different guests come on, 721 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 4: and I sing songs, I pull an old monologue out 722 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 4: of the Coco bolt. But just a way for me 723 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 4: to stay connected with my my fans and to make 724 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 4: other people feel interconnected. And it's been great, And I 725 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 4: stop celebrating friendship. And I've had some celebrities on, but 726 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 4: even with them, it's not about their celebrity. It's really 727 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 4: about friendship and feeling connected. So that's what it's That's 728 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 4: really where I'm at in my life right now. 729 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: Well, I always say that the people that I look 730 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: up to more than anyone are drag queens that did 731 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: it long before it became a reality TV craze. 732 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 3: And so I have so much respect. 733 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: For you and you or peers and people that I'm 734 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: so lucky to call friends and mentors, and. 735 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 4: Well the best back then it was you know, it 736 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 4: was edgy, it was political, it was sometimes even dangerous, 737 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 4: but it just was a calling we had. And and 738 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 4: you're you're you're of that as well. You are a comedian, 739 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 4: you are a great actor of senior in shows, and 740 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 4: and you have a and now you're doing this because 741 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 4: but you have a you have a vision for yourself 742 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 4: and it's so clear that it's bigger than just I 743 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 4: want to be famous. There's you know, you have some authenticity, 744 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 4: not some you have authenticity and it comes through. 745 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: Oh that means so much that you noticed that. 746 00:45:50,719 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 7: Thank you, Coco Peru. 747 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: Wow, what a journey that has been and what a 748 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: career she has had. Oh God, I just worship Coco. 749 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: Thank you Coco for doing this. That was so cool. 750 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: And when she was talking about the UFO support group situation, 751 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: that was crazy. I guess I didn't know much about that. 752 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: It reminded me of there's this SNL sketch when Ryan 753 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 1: Gosling was the host from a couple of years ago 754 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 1: with Kate McKinnon that if you want to see it, 755 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: it's on YouTube. It's called Close Encounter and it's basically 756 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 1: about three people that have had a paranormal experience with 757 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: an alien entity. And it's hilarious and it's sort of 758 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: a It almost has that support group feel. That. That's 759 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: what I kept thinking about the whole time she was 760 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: talking about that. It's really funny. Go check it out. 761 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 3: Hey. 762 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: Also, while you're doing things, please give us five stars 763 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts or wherever you give five stars. I'll 764 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: be doing some listener episodes soon, so please email me 765 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: your listener stories at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot 766 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: com and make sure you write a listener episode in 767 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: the subject line. You can also leave me a ghost 768 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 1: story in a five star review on Apple Podcasts, or 769 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 1: in our Facebook group Ghosted by Roz and dress Fula. 770 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram at rozdras Falass. I'm on Cameo rozdras 771 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: Falas and Rocky my paranormal pooch. 772 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 3: Who you know what. 773 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: Rocky's also lived in two haunted houses. If only he 774 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: could talk, he would be an amazing guest on this show. 775 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: But you can follow him at Rocky the Diva on Instagram. 776 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening. I love you all, both 777 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to 778 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: haunt me, don't haunt me. 779 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 6: Gay bye. 780 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 4: Star bands are a podcast 781 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: A podcast network.