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Speaker 1: Hell No. Welcome to the Naughty but Nice Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Rob Shooter, and it is Thursday, which means

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Speaker 1: I do your friend Mark Lupo joins us, Hey, Loopy

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Speaker 1: are you there?

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Speaker 2: Loopy lowis here? Happy Halloween?

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Speaker 1: Rap Hey, Happy Halloween. What are you dressing up?

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Speaker 2: Us? A grunch? I thing. I'm not really celebrating Halloween

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Speaker 2: in that way. But I love Halloween. But I just

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Speaker 2: still have a costume. That's here.

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Speaker 1: I'm not into it. I don't really like it. A

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Speaker 1: I don't like being uncomfortable when I'm out, so I

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Speaker 1: don't want to wear an uncomfortable costume. And I'm also

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Speaker 1: too such a prude. You know this. It's also sexual, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I like blush. Like people are walking around Chelsea half naked.

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Speaker 2: Especially in New York. Everyone's just out and about in

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Speaker 2: all the ways.

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Speaker 1: It's just like a night to take your clothes about.

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Speaker 1: For the costumes, I don't even know what they are,

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Speaker 1: but they're all exposed bits and bobs. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: going to sit into night in order in a pizza. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what time is it? My friends and his tea time

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Speaker 1: big story At the top of the show, Channing Tatum

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Speaker 1: and Zoe Kravitz have called off their engagement. They had

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Speaker 1: been together for three years, So three years after one

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Speaker 1: of Hollywood's favorite couples, Channing and Zoe got together, they

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Speaker 1: have ended their relationship. So they announced this through friends.

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Speaker 1: They've not put out an official statesman yet, but the

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Speaker 1: duo have called it quits. He is forty four, she's

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Speaker 1: thirty five. They were engaged. Their last public appearance mark

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Speaker 1: was last month, and they looked pretty happy. They're went

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Speaker 1: to a Broadway play and I know people in the

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Speaker 1: play and they said they were really really happy. So,

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Speaker 1: just before the news broke, Channing left fans puzzled with

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Speaker 1: an Instagram story that featured their upcoming film together, Alpha Gang.

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Speaker 1: He's in it, She's in it. Another coastar in this

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Speaker 1: and so he posted something about the film but didn't

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Speaker 1: hint at something? And then another social media post Steve,

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Speaker 1: social media because Steve posted ha ha in Capital let us.

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Speaker 1: Now his publicist has had to clear this up and

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Speaker 1: she said that it wasn't anything to do with the

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Speaker 1: breakup of Channing and Zoe, but rather he was just referencing,

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Speaker 1: coincidentally a meme video that he posted afterwards. H Sha,

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Speaker 1: A couple of questions. One is going on here with

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Speaker 1: Channing and Zoe? And what do you think about Steve's comments?

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Speaker 2: H those are very good questions. I was surprised, just

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Speaker 2: And you know, the news is shocking to me because

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Speaker 2: just a few months ago, Lenny Kravitz was on a

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Speaker 2: And so you know, these are the years, you know,

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Speaker 2: your mid thirties, your early forties is the years plan

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Speaker 2: your family. You start thinking about engagements in which they

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Speaker 2: were engaged in kids and family planning, and so I'm

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Speaker 2: just not really sure. There was no clear signs leading

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Speaker 2: makes me wonder is there something going on there? Is

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what they want us to believe, and

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Speaker 1: that probably is based on their feelings towards him. I

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Speaker 1: know that divorce was really ugly. Remember she wanted some

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Speaker 1: I think they've come to a solution here in agreements.

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Speaker 1: But he did get really really nasty, and you know,

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Speaker 1: she told her partner, now Steve, what was going on,

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Speaker 1: so he knew all this. So I think when couples

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Speaker 1: really nasty. But back to what you said about Zoe

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Speaker 1: But I had heard nothing, absolutely nothing, Like I said.

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Speaker 1: Their last sighting together, they went to see a Broadway

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Speaker 1: Lenny Kravitz still talk to Channon?

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Speaker 1: No, no, If anything God forbid happened with you and

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Speaker 1: a boyfriend, would they get Doris? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I mean you know it's yeah, it's your

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Speaker 2: family who you support, your friends, you have to cut

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Speaker 1: The difference is, though, is that and we should point

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Speaker 1: But we should let everybody know here that Lenny has

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Speaker 1: wonder if Lenny. I don't think Lennie will put out

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Speaker 1: will be asked the next time he does a red carpet,

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Speaker 1: he will be asked, are you still close with Channing.

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Speaker 1: He treated Channing Tatum like a son, and clearly now

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Speaker 1: which brings us to our whole question of the day.

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Speaker 1: Channing Tatum and Zoe Kravitz have called off their engagement

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Speaker 1: three years after getting together. So they've been together for

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Speaker 1: three years, engaged year they called it off. Our questions

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Speaker 1: I didn't see. Let us know by going to vote

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Speaker 1: on our Twitter page at Naughty Nights. Rob. Our Facebook

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Speaker 1: Tamara to hear at your results. Hey, Loopy, what do

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Speaker 2: Yes, so a happier story we have for you, Rob Taylor.

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Speaker 2: Taylor Swift's dad apparently has praised Travis Kelcey and threw

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Speaker 2: some shade at at her exes and a flight according

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Speaker 2: to a TikToker, Oh hmm, let me explain. So Taylor

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Speaker 2: Swift's dad, Scott Swift, is all about her relationship with

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Speaker 2: NFL star Travis Kelcey. According to a fellow passenger on

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Speaker 1: I do too, but she has a private play I'd

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Speaker 2: So the TikTok To recalled on the flight that he

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Speaker 2: was gushing over Kelsey and then said she talked about

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Speaker 2: And then when I have to say that out of

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Speaker 2: all her boyfriends in the last twelve years, Travis has

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Speaker 1: The person must have said, oh, how the couple. I

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Speaker 1: really strange. I do love that he's on a commercial flight.

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Speaker 1: there were three seats Mark, and so somebody sat next

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Speaker 1: I don't think he would have answered this question. So

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Speaker 2: It was, And you know, I have to point out

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Speaker 2: Taylor's dad has not some Joe Schmoe. He's a very

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Speaker 2: And then of course on the internet, you know, people

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Speaker 1: Rather, I do love it, I do love it, but

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Speaker 1: I just was like, you're right, he and Taylor doesn't

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Speaker 1: not taking that away. Nobody has walked through the door

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Speaker 1: See the way, we all don't start from the same beginnings.

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Speaker 1: We just don't. Like if we sit down tonight, Mark

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Speaker 1: But in real life that's not true. Some of the

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Speaker 2: I would be annoyed about Taylor because you would. You know,

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Speaker 2: you want some privacy, you want something to yourself, and

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Speaker 2: really her life is just splashed across the headlines and

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I would call him and be

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Speaker 1: I think I would call too, but I would be

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Speaker 1: gratefully said something nice. Can you imagine if he didn't

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Speaker 1: phone right now? Okay, moving along, This is heartbreaking. There

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Speaker 1: is new security footage that I hope we never see

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Speaker 1: that reveals that Liam Payne fainted before his fatal fall.

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Speaker 1: So the tragic accident has been confirmed. The Argentinian authorities

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Speaker 1: a local reporter claims the video confirms that Liam was

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Speaker 1: We've done it, Marcus game man, we really have it.

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Speaker 1: It's a horrible, horrible, horrible shan if you're in our

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