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Speaker 1: Is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive on dall always deal with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It's a Thursday in Pittsburg. That means Steve was two

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Speaker 1: days into their practice schedule as they get ready to

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Speaker 1: play the Green Bay Packers at lambeau Field on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Matt Um obviously, the big topic of discussion, beyond the

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Speaker 1: quarterback getting bench, which isn't going to happen, folks, as

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Speaker 1: we talked about with Ben with Bob Labrioli yesterday, has

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Speaker 1: been the offensive line play and you know, becomes a

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Speaker 1: chicken or the egg kind. They wants some place blame

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Speaker 1: in one spot and it's not the way this really works.

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Speaker 1: But you know, uh so Merrill Hodge earlier this week,

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Speaker 1: of course, the former Steelers running back and analyst for ES. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it still breaks down film. Oh yeah, he joined Mike

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Speaker 1: and I every Thursday night for a segments. Good stuff,

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Speaker 1: he said on the DV morning show earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: Uh he's talking about the offensive line. When you watched

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Speaker 1: them up front, there a couple of things that are consistent.

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Speaker 1: They got away with it in week one at Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: They did it last week, which has got to be frustrating. Um,

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Speaker 1: they went they went back to a lot of man

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Speaker 1: blocking schemes, which is something that yeah, it seems to

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Speaker 1: be a logical movement their pad level, but their pad

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Speaker 1: level is so high that they get no movement. Um,

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Speaker 1: they're blocking with their chest and they're doing a dance

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Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. You can't run the ball

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Speaker 1: like that when you've got two guys on one they

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Speaker 1: get no movement, and then they don't come off and

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Speaker 1: block another guy, um, he said. And then about thirty

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Speaker 1: percent of the time they miss an assignment, so they

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Speaker 1: have somebody on accoun outed for those things can be

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Speaker 1: corrected and until but until the job gets done. Your

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Speaker 1: quarterback is irrelevant, Your wide receivers are irrelevant, You're running

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Speaker 1: backs are irrelevant. That's some strong points. Obviously correctable things

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Speaker 1: though things that's to me, But it is a problem.

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Speaker 1: Like one thing you always hear coaches talk about is

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Speaker 1: you know when they when they talk about a young player, well,

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Speaker 1: I really like him. He doesn't make the same mistake twice.

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Speaker 1: That's big coaches hate the same mistake. If you're making

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Speaker 1: the same mistake over and over and over again. I

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Speaker 1: can't put you out here anymore. Yeah, I mean, no

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Speaker 1: matter how talented you are, I mean, coaching, putting a

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Speaker 1: player on the field is all about trust, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that's why young guys takes a little while to

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Speaker 1: earn that trust. And if you keep making the same mistakes,

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Speaker 1: eventually the coach kind of runs out of options, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I can I tell you so many times, so

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Speaker 1: many ways. And that doesn't mean you're a bad coach

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Speaker 1: or I mean everyone's to blame. And Hodge also talked

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Speaker 1: this morning on on Serious NFL and and you know,

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Speaker 1: everybody I wrote about this on on d K Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Sports about what Hodge had to say, and the immediate

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Speaker 1: reaction is, well, it's got to be the coach and

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Speaker 1: the coaching. I figured that would be what you get

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Speaker 1: back and Hodge. Hodge said, Look, the coaches aren't coaching

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Speaker 1: them to go out there and miss missassignments. They're not

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Speaker 1: coaching them to go out there and try to block

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Speaker 1: this way. This is what they're kind of really, they're

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Speaker 1: going in the really you know, uh default mode when

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Speaker 1: things start happening, you know, people were moving there. You know,

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Speaker 1: at the last second, Okay, we're gonna shift a line

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Speaker 1: on you and you're not gonna pick up this stunt.

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Speaker 1: That's what teams do. The Steelers have done that forever.

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Speaker 1: Two young lines exactly, that's what happens. Communications absolutely massive

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Speaker 1: with offensive lines. Continuity is absolutely massive. You know, talk

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Speaker 1: to Wolf for any of these guys that have done

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Speaker 1: it with a lot of the same dudes year after year.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely invaluable. It's something near the end that might

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Speaker 1: be one of the best things the Steelers line had

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Speaker 1: going for it was they all understood one another limitation

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Speaker 1: that was the other side of the coin. Like if

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Speaker 1: you look at the line last year, Okay, so they

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Speaker 1: weren't making the mistakes. You know, if if somebody ran

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Speaker 1: a stunt on them, they knew who to pick up

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Speaker 1: and all that exactly. At least you had that part

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Speaker 1: it was time to get younger there. And at least

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Speaker 1: so now you've got these younger here, so you've got

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Speaker 1: the other you know, it's a question of okay, are

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Speaker 1: You know? I asked, I actually asked Mat and a

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Speaker 1: mean just the growing pain part. I asked Mack Cannada today.

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, you had to expect this to

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Speaker 1: You've got four young guys on your offensive line, you

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Speaker 1: had to expect there to be uh, some growing pains here.

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Speaker 1: But did you expect it to be to this level?

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Speaker 1: And he said I didn't. Um, but I'm a glass

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Speaker 1: half full guy. Uh, I thought we were going to

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Speaker 1: be great the whole time. We're not happy with where

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Speaker 1: and hasn't been what we've wanted. It has to be

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Speaker 1: better and there has to be a certain sense of

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Speaker 1: urgency to get better. Okay, Yeah, I think that's fair. Um.

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Speaker 1: The thing we can't comment on, even with you being

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Speaker 1: they're being coached, and you know, they're not coached to

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Speaker 1: know that. I mean free offensive line coach in the league.

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Speaker 1: There's not an offensive line coach in the league who

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Speaker 1: tells you, guys, hey, we're gonna come out, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do the exact opposite of whatever, but he's expecting to do.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come in high. Right. But there's better offensive

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Speaker 1: of life. I don't know if Clem is great or not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's way too early to say that I

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Speaker 1: can guarantee that he's not coaching them to blow assignments

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Speaker 1: or play with iPads, or not go to the second

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Speaker 1: guy on a double team and things like that. So

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Speaker 1: let's kind of break down each one of those things

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Speaker 1: that Merrill mentioned, because if thirty percent of the time,

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Speaker 1: a mental perspective, but not doing their job. Somebody didn't

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Speaker 1: you end up with two guys blocking one guy and

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Speaker 1: To me, that screams experience. You know that that that

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Speaker 1: just is lack of recognition, you know, like when you're

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Speaker 1: and awareness things like that. Do you think of quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: won't come my hunches. And I'm not just being an

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Speaker 1: think the mistakes in communication has nowhere to go but up. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's something that will get better. That will

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Speaker 1: get better. I mean, you play next to the same

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Speaker 1: see you. Also, the speed of the game has something

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Speaker 1: more time to pick up a stunt. That guy's on

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Speaker 1: the pad level one kind of stood out to me though,

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Speaker 1: this line is not a first or second round pick.

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Speaker 1: So you know, with that, with knowing that My thoughts

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Speaker 1: And I also thought about the pad level thing, and

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Speaker 1: to make snaps, you know, like you run seventy seven snaps,

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Speaker 1: are start coming up, you know what I mean? How

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Speaker 1: much of that could also be the fact if you

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Speaker 1: a lot of it's just technique in general as well too,

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Speaker 1: which that part will get better. Technique and knowing you

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Speaker 1: old team. I gotta go get the linebacker. But I

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Speaker 1: did find it interesting that Canaida's you know, said, look, um,

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Speaker 1: has to get better, and there's a sense of urgency

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Speaker 1: to get better. How do you create urgency if you're

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Speaker 1: a coaching staff, Well maybe you start challenging some guys

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Speaker 1: not going to be on the field. We're gonna try

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Speaker 1: this other guy and if he doesn't make the mistakes,

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Speaker 1: and he'll be on the field. Yeah. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know Dotson, but he was in the doghouse. Apparently

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Speaker 1: a little of this offseason. Is he taking things for

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Speaker 1: granted over you know, things like that, or does Trey

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Speaker 1: Turner looking at like, I'm fine, nobody's gonna mention me.

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Speaker 1: I'm the vet here? Or does does Green think and uh,

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Speaker 1: what's the face the left tackle thing? More and more that, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I just don't know what their their frames of mind are.

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Speaker 1: You know, well they get you know, you're starting Zack

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Speaker 1: Banners coming back. You know you'll see him, maybe not

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Speaker 1: longer takes for them to activate him. But once that happens,

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Speaker 1: now you have options at tackle played Okay, yeah, a

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Speaker 1: because if he plays of the snaps, they lose that

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Speaker 1: fifth round draft pick next year. So he's kind of

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Speaker 1: You know, um, but you know so you now now

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Speaker 1: you now the option is there that if they want

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Speaker 1: when when when Banners back, we could take and plug

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Speaker 1: Banner in it right tackle. You put chokes at left tackle,

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Speaker 1: and you said, you said the kid you're gonna sitting watch,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe they make a move on the interior.

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Speaker 1: to look forward to. You know, like when you're watching

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Speaker 1: I mean, on these double teams, are you seeing a

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Speaker 1: And then this the second guy, one of the two

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Speaker 1: that nature. And in the way I describe it is

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Speaker 1: not like we both punch, just kind of face the

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Speaker 1: doing that, I'm moving my way up to the next

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Speaker 1: level to go hit some moving get the linebacker because

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Speaker 1: that's where you're going to get the big games for

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Speaker 1: the real hole open. You know, as I passed, and

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Speaker 1: that just frankly takes time. Like hearing that doesn't surprise

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Speaker 1: that's kind of easy. It's not. You know, your three

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Speaker 1: being that nose double teams come into your body. You

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Speaker 1: know that that that stuff is hard. That's just a

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Speaker 1: lot of reps um. So you know, we'll see what

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Speaker 1: kind of adjustments they make again. I I see signs

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Speaker 1: we did. We talked about it last week. Well, they

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Speaker 1: need to start running the offense through nagers. They did

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Speaker 1: that maybe too much, like it would bother me if

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden we go back to last year,

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Speaker 1: seeing all kinds of finesse runs and draws and more,

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Speaker 1: just you know, be cute about it. And that's not

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Speaker 1: the approach they're taking. I mean they're coming off the

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Speaker 1: you know that. I don't. Again, I don't nobody sees

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Speaker 1: the field this year or even if plays, they don't

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Speaker 1: need to play him forty snaps. But okay, you know

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Speaker 1: we're using eleven snaps and you know, see what you

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Speaker 1: got there. I wonder if and when Banner comes back,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. The gentry has been the problem though

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Speaker 1: in a lot of situations. No, he's actually doing pretty well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: does he deserve more snaps? Right? I don't know. And

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Speaker 1: whose expense those? That's the problem. That's the problem, because

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Speaker 1: again you gotta take somebody else off the field. I'm

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Speaker 1: just interested to see what the offense looks like this week,

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Speaker 1: because now you've incorporated Harris into the passing game at

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Speaker 1: a ridiculous level. He had the most that was that

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Speaker 1: was the most targets for running back in a game

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Speaker 1: since nineteen fifty outside of it did it once or something? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and actually Harris had twenty because the one that called

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Speaker 1: back on the thought of that tier record. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's remarkable usage of a running back and too much. Frank,

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Speaker 1: we all called for it, but too much. As you know,

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Speaker 1: when that became once once, once you were out, you

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Speaker 1: didn't have Johnson and Jujuicemith Schuster, they could just they

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Speaker 1: could just simply double Claypool and okay, yeah, dumping down

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Speaker 1: to the Harris and we're gonna five guys tackle him exactly.

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Speaker 1: It has to be more of a surprise comment. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I think Harris too, I mean to Meryll's you know,

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Speaker 1: he isn't to blame. But he's still a rookie too.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's still learning the speed of when do

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Speaker 1: I hit this whole? And all these type of things too,

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, the speed of the game is a

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Speaker 1: big adjustment that you just don't get in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I know he played some snaps in preseason. It's not

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Speaker 1: the same. It's not the same at all. Close, you know,

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Speaker 1: I agree he is Matt Williamson and Dale Law. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation RADI we're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We'll be back with segment two

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Speaker 1: right after this