WEBVTT - Episode 289: No Hostages Here (Feat. Sabrina Parr) 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.600 What's at this lift service at Mantel la yee, I'm 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:07.440 g g maguire, I'm we have to bring up heart 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.680 with us. How are you feeling, I'm feeling good. Thanks 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:15.000 for asking, but you look amazing well, thank you, thank you, 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.560 thank you, thank you. Now we did get a chance 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.960 to see the screener for Behind every Man, so I 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.160 haven't even seen it yet. How you haven't really know. 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:26.720 I'm going to watch it with the rest of the 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:31.040 world on Saturday. It was very interesting. We learned a 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.600 lot of that was the goal. That's the goal, because 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:36.640 I do feel like, you know, when you showed up 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.320 and you were engaged to lamar Odom, people definitely were like, Okay, 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.720 what's the motive here, what's going on with her? Who 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.239 is she? But I do feel like it did give 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.879 it some good insight, just into like your upbringing, who 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:49.839 you are as a person, and all the struggles that 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.520 you've gone through to make you who you are today. Absolutely, um, 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:57.120 I was just honored to have been chosen because during 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.280 that relationship, I would always say, like, what is wrong 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.240 with everybody? Like they don't even know me, they have 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.320 no idea you know who I am and you know 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:07.800 that I am supposed to be in this position, and 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.679 so I think the show really showcased a lot of 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.720 those answers, you know, um so, and it was just 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.440 a great opportunity. Is it kind of better? Sweet now? 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.120 Since we know that y'all are not together and Lamar 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.160 is pretty much obviously all through that uh documentary if 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.640 you want to call um you know, to be honest, 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:29.760 it doesn't take away from the excitement that I feel 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:34.440 about my story because it's really my story. It sucks 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:38.200 that we can't be promoting it together because we created 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.039 it together. You know. Obviously I was chosen for the 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.759 show because I was behind him at one point, you know, 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.640 um and so, and I kind of like my heart 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.200 just kind of goes out to him because it's like, all, 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.560 this is another thing we did together that now we 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.240 have to do separately. So but I've just really been 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.560 trying to focus on you know, this story is about me, 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:02.360 you know, and I'm excited to see my mom had 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.440 to say, you know, because we really had to push 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:07.920 to get her one there that was sad, Oh don't 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:10.840 tell me that. I don't know. I'm just saying. Surprise 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:12.640 was like she was telling, you know, it made you 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.720 tear up a little just seeing some of that. She cried, 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:17.880 you know that she kind of had to get coached 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.480 through some parts. But I can only imagine. I mean, 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.360 my mom has been through a lot so and so 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:28.320 have you, yes with her without her, so we are 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.440 both on the other side of it. So that's the 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.160 good thing. People don't really know why you guys broke up, 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.480 Like we just saw it happened, and we saw that 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.400 you were no longer together. And then we saw he 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.640 said you were holding his social media accounts hostage, Like 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:46.360 what was that? I think he's still saying that. Um, 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.720 he actually just told me that we interviewed him. I 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.280 interviewed him on my morning show, and he told me 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:55.320 that she still have his socials and everything. Okay, UM, 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:59.320 so you know, I am allowing Lamar to create whatever 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:02.400 narrative wants to create. I didn't want to get into 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:06.120 the back and forth thing, you know. I started a 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.480 little bit, just showed a few things of what was 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.919 on my end, and I said, you know what, UM, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:17.840 I'm gonna allow my page, my personality, my actions to 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.520 show who I am and where my energy really is, 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.359 you know, And I think that over the last couple 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.119 of weeks, I've done that. Um, in regards to your question, Angela, 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.360 it just didn't work out. You know. I don't want 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.120 to speak on specifics because then it will get into 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.680 a back and forth and I just feel like I'm 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.400 moving forward. UM. There's a lot of things that I 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.440 could have responded to that I'm continuing to not respond to, 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.320 you know, but I will say this, like in regard 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.880 to his social media, like anyone who gets hacked or 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.560 feels like they don't have control of their page, Instagram 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.360 has a great support system where you could just contact 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.960 them and just get something new. You know, you can 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.040 get a new email, path s, work, whatever it is. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.520 So if him and his team have not figured that 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.000 out because they believe that I have something, then maybe 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.200 they might need a different team. Him and his manager 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.200 both said is linked to your emails? Because I asked him, 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.000 I'm like, aren't you posting and things like that, and 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:18.839 he said, yeah, you know, I can't change the password 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.120 I'm logged in, but it goes straight to her emails. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.159 We've tried to contact, and then he even kind of solicited, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.719 like anybody that works for Instagram or Twitter, if you 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.840 can reach out to me. I would love for you 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.560 to help because she's definitely holding it hot. Well, I'll 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.960 say this, if I had access to his page, guys, 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:36.720 I would have took a lot of stuff down a 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:41.440 long time ago. Okay, Um, especially the video that's blatantly 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:45.479 disrespecting me. Let's just be honest. You know, like, if 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:50.200 I had control over anything on his page, anything disrespected 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.600 to Sabrina would have been gone. That's all I'm going 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.200 to say. And I hope whatever struggles they're having they 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.440 figure it out soon. Why do you think he's making 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.440 that attention? It's a storyline to run with. And maybe 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.080 he truly does believe that. I mean, I haven't talked 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:09.080 to him, you know, he may really believe that I 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.160 have access to it. I just don't know a woman 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.719 who would have access to that page that would allow 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.440 disrespect to be happening. You know. Um, with the snap 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.479 of a click of a button, I can shut the 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.200 whole thing down if I had access to it. Um. 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.760 But also all I can say is I don't If 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.160 I tried to log into his page right now, it 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.799 will literally show his phone number and whatever email address 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.280 that has been changed. Obviously throughout our duration of our relationship, 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:42.279 I had access to everything at one point. You know, Um, 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.960 that's kind of normal, I think when um and him 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:47.840 as well. You know, he knew how to get right 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.160 into my phone. But the whole time, I don't know 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:54.279 if that because my man ain't got no ac well 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.440 in our relationship, Okay, I think I think Lamar was 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.440 just kind of used to people doing so and things 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:04.120 for him, and so I kind of just replace that 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.240 and just step into that role. He's also not very 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.720 social media savvy, so um, a lot of times I 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.480 would have to help him find d M post certain things. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:15.920 You know, he would do a lot of contracts with 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.040 people that involved having the post, having to at people 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.520 tagged them. He didn't want to do those things, so um, 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.080 and then he forgets a lot of his log ins. 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:30.240 So we all always right, so but with me so 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.359 I can remember it, I put it in my notes, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.240 I have it written down somewhere, you know, but that's 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.000 only accessible if you can get into the iPhone. So um. Anyways, 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.560 I did have access to access to it at one 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.760 point when we broke up, I literally deleted everything off 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.240 of my phone. I let him know I was doing that. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.640 I told him, if you need help resetting the password, 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.039 I will let I will help you. He refused to 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.560 take the help. And the craziest thing is his manager 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.640 um him. They have not once contacted me and asked 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:08.359 me for anything, not one time since they made that statement, 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.520 the original statement. Have they said, hey, do you have 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:16.080 his password or whatever? So, um, I just didn't want 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.160 to get into the back and forth, but Sabrina, I 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.360 do want to say I'm sorry that things didn't work out. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:21.880 I know a lot of times we go into these 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.080 relationships and we do not anticipate all the drama and 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.240 how things could possibly come to an end. Like you 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.200 fall in love and you think this is it, and 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.800 then you never think that the person that you fell 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:35.320 in love with that it could end up like this, 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.800 you know. So I do want to say that I 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.640 am sorry that things didn't work out for you. So 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.000 for you that do not feel sorry for me to 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.320 any I'm not gonna sorry for you, but I'm saying 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.200 I'm sorry because I know we never get into a 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:53.440 situation thinking it's gonna go as left publicly, and I 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.920 know that's not easy too publicly because people have painted 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.760 you as the bad person, you know, she's manipulative and 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.760 he's taking advantage of the situations. He's cloud chasing. You know, 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.160 how do you respond when people say things like that. 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:10.880 I don't. I do not respond. I just continue to 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.160 operate in my world, in my space, and it's working 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.160 out very well for me. To be honest, Um, I 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.120 think the more that I try to come back, which 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.400 I haven't. But when I first first first saw the 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.960 stuff about the passwords, my manager was literally like, is 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:28.960 there anything you can post to show that you don't 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.320 have that on your phone? I said sure. After I 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.319 posted that I was done, I was like, it doesn't 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.080 matter what he says. Moving forward, as long as there's 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.679 nothing directly about my kids, I am not responding to anything, 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.080 you know, I am just not doing it because my 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.920 focus is on myself, that is it. And the more 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:51.040 I continue to engage with people on social media that 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.000 could talk to me in real life, the more I'm 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:57.439 moving in the opposite direction, you know, And I'm really 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.479 just moving forward, so I continue to have forward momentum 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.800 when I do not respond. Why do you think Matt 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.080 Barnes had something to say about you, but and you 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.040 responded to him? He was one of the only people 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.000 I did see respond to. But you know what you 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.360 think made him say something? I think it's what I said. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:19.240 It was that he liked men. Oh, and that's what 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.840 I told him. I think only someone that is bisexual 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:28.040 or homosexual would want to personally say something to a 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.439 woman that they have never met and know nothing about. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.679 I think that is a very female and feminine trait. Well, 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.880 he probably was really just sticking up for his book. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.680 But but he that's not his boy. But that's not 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.480 his boy. That's not his boy. And so that and 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.200 I actually had a personal conversation with something after that, 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.160 because if I was your boy, where were you during 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:52.000 other moments when I was his only boy? You get 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:55.480 what I'm saying. So where were you at when Kobe passed? 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.160 When were you at when he was feeling some type 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.960 of way about people find out that he's sold his rings? 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.480 You know, like, don't be his boy just because you 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:09.359 see a girl's dancing. I mean, there's so many opportunities 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:10.920 you could have showed up to be his boy, It's 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:14.120 all I'm saying. So it's easy to say, oh, this 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:16.240 is my boy, but no it's not. You don't even 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:17.800 have his phone number. You don't even know how to 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:22.720 reach him. M hm. Now let me ask you that. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.240 So you haven't watched the episode yet, right, so are 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.839 you going to watch it when it comes out? I am. 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:34.760 I'm really excited about Um my friend Jasmine, who's actually 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.199 on the episode. I'm sure she's the one thing I 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.840 don't know, Um how much of her is on there? Um? 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:45.080 Her family? Uh, just some close friends, um, and that's 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.959 probably it. Like just a very intimate setting. I'm kind 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.680 of anxious. I don't want to be out around a 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.040 lot of people because I really feel like watching my 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:58.720 mom is gonna make me emotional. So well it will okay, 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.600 Well yeah, so just a lot just around some really 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:03.719 close friends and family. I was gonna ask you, did 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.520 your friends and family how did they feel about your relationship? 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.200 Where they ever? Like, I don't know about this one 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:14.160 because they're very somebody else the guy that you were 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:20.120 with before. Yeah, so um, some of them were kind 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:24.760 of like alright, Sabrina, what we're doing here? You know, 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.840 how how long are we doing this? And um, others 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:33.360 the more seasoned, we're kind of like, you know, push through, 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.679 give us some time. Things can change. Um. But the 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:41.880 thing is like they knew the very intimate details of 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.600 the relationship because they were here and you know, Lamar 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.600 was living with me in Cleveland, Ohio, so they saw everything. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:52.600 Um and so well, I'll say this, when we broke up, 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:57.760 like they were not surprised and they just really wanted 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.520 to see me happy, and like they definitely are seeing 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.400 that now. Like you know, you focus so much on 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:08.400 another person that you kind of lose yourself. And um, 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.800 I did a good job with you know, continuing to 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.160 work out and self caring those things, but it's like 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.360 just like my spiritual self, my emotional self, you know, 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:20.760 gets lost in trying to support this relationship, you know, 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:22.920 and support the person you're in a relationship with. So 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.400 I don't have to be concerned with that anymore. So 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.320 I really just really get to focus on me. And 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.840 I just kind of forgot how dope I can be 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.400 at times, like you know, just being hodest, you know, like, wow, 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.920 I forgot to do this and I forgot I am this, 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.680 you know, like because it hasn't been about me. Um. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.360 So that's just been enjoying for them to watch and 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.720 just like refreshing for me to feel. Now the beginning, y'all, 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.360 wasn't having sex. And do you do that when you 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.400 get into relationships? Do you be like, all right, no, 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.360 we're not gonna have sex into a certain amount of 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.880 time or did you just try that with him? Every 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:59.200 relationship has been different, Um, this one in particular, I 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:03.520 decided I was gonna wait because I just heard about 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:08.560 his reputation, you know, and I just needed to see 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.960 who he was, you know, and sex can kind of 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.600 complicate that, um, And I just needed to see, you know, 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.599 what are you here for? You know, what would the 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:21.520 interaction be like if we're not being intimate? And in 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.240 the beginning, I think that's what really built a friendship 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.839 for us, because we spent a lot of time with 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.840 each other but was not having sex. So what was 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:32.000 it that made you decide to go ahead and give 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:37.560 him something? Give up the ring? No? No? When we 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.640 proposed to me, When when he proposed to me, we 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.680 were abstinent. Um. We didn't have sex that night any 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:47.440 like no night around that we were abstinent um. But 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.440 I think it was just, you know, he showed he 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.120 was really committed to the relationship, you know, Like I 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.680 had a lot of boundaries that had at of no 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.400 I'm not doing no, I don't allow and he was 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:02.480 just like okay, okay, hey, UM didn't cross those boundaries. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:04.680 And so I just really felt like, you know what, 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.200 he's really serious. You know, if he's done all of 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.840 this and has not gotten anything, you know, sexually, for me, 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.400 he may really be serious about this. I've never gone 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:19.440 through accidence in a relationship, so so oh wow, if 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.920 I have, really it really helps you experience real intimacy. 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.920 So remove some questions about accedence. Okay, you can't have sex, 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:30.680 but are there other things that you can do? Like 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.080 what I mean, you can, but we chose not to 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.360 because I'm just not strong enough. I'm gonna be honest. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.520 So it's like we were there, we might as well 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.320 keep it going, you know. So for me, it was 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.640 just like, let's not even play around with this. You 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:51.280 can kind like those are all intimacy, like real intimacy. 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.560 That's why I say you experienced real intimacy when you're 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.560 not having sex. You know, there were times we would 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.200 just fall asleephold hands, you know, like imagine the connection 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:05.240 you created doing that, um, and so it's powerful. It's 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.560 not easy, especially when you're living together and spending so 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.840 much time together. But you know, if you understand the 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.360 purpose of why you're doing it, then uh, and you 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.520 focus on that in goal, then it actually becomes really 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:24.000 really really powerful force in your relationship. How long How 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:28.760 long was that time frame you guys? Oh? Man, Um, 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.240 we weren't even together that long, so it was let's see, 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.680 met in June. So I would probably say like a 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.160 total of like four or five months, okay, and then 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.600 that's yeah, that's a lie. And you all were together 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:46.600 a lot, so yes, we were always together. But then 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.680 y'all did break up and get back together, right. That 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.880 was kind of like we did at a couple of times, like, um, 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:56.840 you know sometimes when I'm upset, like I'm a quitter, 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.680 I'd be like, just get out, I'm done, you know, 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:02.200 like check block you, you know, like in my anger, 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.480 I don't want to fight, I just want to be done. Um. 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.240 But when that statement was put out, that was kind 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:11.800 of like the starting point of me being like I'm 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:15.920 exiting this relationship, you know. And then I had an 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:20.040 ultimatum that I gave him after that statement was put out, 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.840 and I said, you know, there's only one thing you 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:27.320 can do for us to get back together, and he said, 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.440 whatever I gotta do, I'll do it. He decided to 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.720 do that, and then when it came down to the time, 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.200 he was sup post that he didn't do it, and 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:39.440 so that is when I was literally like, okay, what 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.200 was Yeah? What was it? I just don't want to 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:46.120 say um because again it will start a lot of 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.360 back and forth, you know, But UM, I think my 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.280 statement that was put out was kind of clear that 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.280 we were having some troubles in some areas and our 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.400 lifestyles just were not the same. And so it was like, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.240 you know, I need to change this area of your 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:05.040 lifestyle and if not, then I can't move forward with this. 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.920 So um, you know, decisions have to be made. And 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:12.040 I was able to walk away with in peace. So 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.480 you don't think this is another instance where maybe I'll 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.520 break up and get back together because he did say 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:20.200 he loves you. Oh, I on pent have no desire 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:25.719 to ever revisit the situation with Lamordom. Right, what if 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.160 how do you explain and normally reached out our show 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.560 off at the tip of the day, so as somebody 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.560 who has just been through this, right, how the tip 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:35.120 of the day for today, we want you to give 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:37.200 our listeners, is how do you know when it's time 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.400 to walk away from something when you've given it your 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.040 all and you're like, I can't do anymore, when you 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:46.119 just have no peace? And I think a good indication 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.760 of not having peace is like when you're just not 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.399 acting like yourself. You know, and we all know what 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:52.960 that looks like. You like, I can't leave. I just 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.000 did that. I can't. I just said that, you know, 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:58.919 like when you're just not yourself, you know, which means 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.880 you have no peace and so um in anything. So 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:05.679 that is a good and that could be early on. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:09.800 You know, every woman has a threshold. Everyone's time frame 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:11.800 is different, you know the things I put up with. 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:14.760 I know women that could have went through that for years, 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:17.639 other women that rely on the first side of that, 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.359 you know. So everyone's threshold is different. You have to 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.520 understand where your worthy is. But the moment I knew 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.440 like I can no longer go on with this happening 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.920 is when I knew it's time to find an exit rout. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:37.520 I agree with you on that because there is um 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.159 for myself too. I also feel like when I'm not 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.640 acting like myself and I'm arguing, when I'm like depressed 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:48.159 more than normal. When I'm more sad than happy, I'm like, 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.040 this is not me, Like, this is not like person. 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:54.240 When I'm not like, you know, fulfilling my obligations and 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:56.040 things that I have to do, because I'm more concerned 0:18:56.080 --> 0:19:00.000 about that person than I am about my responsibilities. I'm 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.399 this isn't a good situation for me. And it was 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.600 kind of Um. You know, I can't say how he 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:10.280 felt because I haven't spoken with him, and the interviews 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.160 and things he's done, I haven't listened. But for for me, 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.119 I just knew. You know, I tell people this all 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:18.960 the time. You have to ask yourself a question in 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:23.280 the relationship, if the current situation doesn't change, will you 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.080 be happy? Because a lot of times we stay in 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.680 things in hopes of, you know, this may it better. 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.199 I hope this works, if you know, And so the 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:37.280 reality is it may not. You know, it may remain 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:41.320 that exact situation. So the answer is no, I won't 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.840 be happy. Then you're forced to make a decision, you know, 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:49.639 and um Lamar knows more than anyone our truths of 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.280 what happened, why we split. Um, that's why I said, 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.920 I'm allowing him to say whatever narrative he wants because 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:01.040 I do know men have egos, you know. Um, and 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.119 he's lamar old him. You know, he's a legend. He 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.080 has to remain he has to look good. You know, 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:09.000 his image cannot be tainted by a woman. How how 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:14.040 dare I you know? So? Um, whatever he needs to 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:18.040 say that makes him, you know, support that image. I 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.480 rock with it. Do you still love him? Because he 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.520 said he still loves you? Do you still love him? Oh? Yeah, 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:26.040 I do. I love him a lot. He was my friend, 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.639 you know. Um. There are times I'm just concerned for 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.960 my friend, you know, I do. People send me stuff 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:37.280 all the time. Um, there's still been some form of 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:41.800 contact through people, and as a friend. My heart goes 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:46.359 out to him sometimes because no man who says I 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:50.680 love you, who proposed, who wanted to get married, who 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.320 you saw the interview, I'm sure he spoke very well 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:57.800 of me, who really felt thought that way, is happy 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:01.240 that the situation has ended. You know, there could have 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.560 been some grief, some sorrow, some something. And because I 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:09.080 don't see him going through any of that at any point, Um, 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:11.639 my heart goes out because I'm like, wow, you can't 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:15.240 really feel you know, Um, I went for about three 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.960 weeks I grieve. I'm being honest, you know, I put 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.119 up a post like the first week, I'm not getting 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:23.160 out of bed. Somebody needs to come get my daughter, 0:21:23.800 --> 0:21:28.760 you know, because I'm a wreck. I'm a mess, you know. UM, 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.919 heavy with my therapist, you know, very honest and transparent 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.680 with my friends, just going through the motions in my mind. 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:38.040 I mean, I went through a heavy grieving process where 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:39.879 like I'm not going anywhere. I don't even want to 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:41.720 get up and look cute because it's gonna force me 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:45.600