Speaker 1: What's at this lift service at Mantel la yee, I'm
Speaker 1: g g maguire, I'm we have to bring up heart
Speaker 1: with us. How are you feeling, I'm feeling good. Thanks
Speaker 1: for asking, but you look amazing well, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Now we did get a chance
Speaker 1: to see the screener for Behind every Man, so I
Speaker 1: haven't even seen it yet. How you haven't really know.
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch it with the rest of the
Speaker 1: world on Saturday. It was very interesting. We learned a
Speaker 1: lot of that was the goal. That's the goal, because
Speaker 1: I do feel like, you know, when you showed up
Speaker 1: and you were engaged to lamar Odom, people definitely were like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what's the motive here, what's going on with her? Who
Speaker 1: is she? But I do feel like it did give
Speaker 1: it some good insight, just into like your upbringing, who
Speaker 1: you are as a person, and all the struggles that
Speaker 1: you've gone through to make you who you are today. Absolutely, um,
Speaker 1: I was just honored to have been chosen because during
Speaker 1: that relationship, I would always say, like, what is wrong
Speaker 1: with everybody? Like they don't even know me, they have
Speaker 1: no idea you know who I am and you know
Speaker 1: that I am supposed to be in this position, and
Speaker 1: so I think the show really showcased a lot of
Speaker 1: those answers, you know, um so, and it was just
Speaker 1: a great opportunity. Is it kind of better? Sweet now?
Speaker 1: Since we know that y'all are not together and Lamar
Speaker 1: is pretty much obviously all through that uh documentary if
Speaker 1: you want to call um you know, to be honest,
Speaker 1: it doesn't take away from the excitement that I feel
Speaker 1: about my story because it's really my story. It sucks
Speaker 1: that we can't be promoting it together because we created
Speaker 1: it together. You know. Obviously I was chosen for the
Speaker 1: show because I was behind him at one point, you know,
Speaker 1: um and so, and I kind of like my heart
Speaker 1: just kind of goes out to him because it's like, all,
Speaker 1: this is another thing we did together that now we
Speaker 1: have to do separately. So but I've just really been
Speaker 1: trying to focus on you know, this story is about me,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm excited to see my mom had
Speaker 1: to say, you know, because we really had to push
Speaker 1: to get her one there that was sad, Oh don't
Speaker 1: tell me that. I don't know. I'm just saying. Surprise
Speaker 1: was like she was telling, you know, it made you
Speaker 1: tear up a little just seeing some of that. She cried,
Speaker 1: you know that she kind of had to get coached
Speaker 1: through some parts. But I can only imagine. I mean,
Speaker 1: my mom has been through a lot so and so
Speaker 1: have you, yes with her without her, so we are
Speaker 1: both on the other side of it. So that's the
Speaker 1: good thing. People don't really know why you guys broke up,
Speaker 1: Like we just saw it happened, and we saw that
Speaker 1: you were no longer together. And then we saw he
Speaker 1: said you were holding his social media accounts hostage, Like
Speaker 1: what was that? I think he's still saying that. Um,
Speaker 1: he actually just told me that we interviewed him. I
Speaker 1: interviewed him on my morning show, and he told me
Speaker 1: that she still have his socials and everything. Okay, UM,
Speaker 1: so you know, I am allowing Lamar to create whatever
Speaker 1: narrative wants to create. I didn't want to get into
Speaker 1: the back and forth thing, you know. I started a
Speaker 1: little bit, just showed a few things of what was
Speaker 1: on my end, and I said, you know what, UM,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna allow my page, my personality, my actions to
Speaker 1: show who I am and where my energy really is,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that over the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, I've done that. Um, in regards to your question, Angela,
Speaker 1: it just didn't work out. You know. I don't want
Speaker 1: to speak on specifics because then it will get into
Speaker 1: a back and forth and I just feel like I'm
Speaker 1: moving forward. UM. There's a lot of things that I
Speaker 1: could have responded to that I'm continuing to not respond to,
Speaker 1: you know, but I will say this, like in regard
Speaker 1: to his social media, like anyone who gets hacked or
Speaker 1: feels like they don't have control of their page, Instagram
Speaker 1: has a great support system where you could just contact
Speaker 1: them and just get something new. You know, you can
Speaker 1: get a new email, path s, work, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: So if him and his team have not figured that
Speaker 1: out because they believe that I have something, then maybe
Speaker 1: they might need a different team. Him and his manager
Speaker 1: both said is linked to your emails? Because I asked him,
Speaker 1: I'm like, aren't you posting and things like that, and
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, you know, I can't change the password
Speaker 1: I'm logged in, but it goes straight to her emails.
Speaker 1: We've tried to contact, and then he even kind of solicited,
Speaker 1: like anybody that works for Instagram or Twitter, if you
Speaker 1: can reach out to me. I would love for you
Speaker 1: to help because she's definitely holding it hot. Well, I'll
Speaker 1: say this, if I had access to his page, guys,
Speaker 1: I would have took a lot of stuff down a
Speaker 1: long time ago. Okay, Um, especially the video that's blatantly
Speaker 1: disrespecting me. Let's just be honest. You know, like, if
Speaker 1: I had control over anything on his page, anything disrespected
Speaker 1: to Sabrina would have been gone. That's all I'm going
Speaker 1: to say. And I hope whatever struggles they're having they
Speaker 1: figure it out soon. Why do you think he's making
Speaker 1: that attention? It's a storyline to run with. And maybe
Speaker 1: he truly does believe that. I mean, I haven't talked
Speaker 1: to him, you know, he may really believe that I
Speaker 1: have access to it. I just don't know a woman
Speaker 1: who would have access to that page that would allow
Speaker 1: disrespect to be happening. You know. Um, with the snap
Speaker 1: of a click of a button, I can shut the
Speaker 1: whole thing down if I had access to it. Um.
Speaker 1: But also all I can say is I don't If
Speaker 1: I tried to log into his page right now, it
Speaker 1: will literally show his phone number and whatever email address
Speaker 1: that has been changed. Obviously throughout our duration of our relationship,
Speaker 1: I had access to everything at one point. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: that's kind of normal, I think when um and him
Speaker 1: as well. You know, he knew how to get right
Speaker 1: into my phone. But the whole time, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that because my man ain't got no ac well
Speaker 1: in our relationship, Okay, I think I think Lamar was
Speaker 1: just kind of used to people doing so and things
Speaker 1: for him, and so I kind of just replace that
Speaker 1: and just step into that role. He's also not very
Speaker 1: social media savvy, so um, a lot of times I
Speaker 1: would have to help him find d M post certain things.
Speaker 1: You know, he would do a lot of contracts with
Speaker 1: people that involved having the post, having to at people
Speaker 1: tagged them. He didn't want to do those things, so um,
Speaker 1: and then he forgets a lot of his log ins.
Speaker 1: So we all always right, so but with me so
Speaker 1: I can remember it, I put it in my notes,
Speaker 1: I have it written down somewhere, you know, but that's
Speaker 1: only accessible if you can get into the iPhone. So um. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I did have access to access to it at one
Speaker 1: point when we broke up, I literally deleted everything off
Speaker 1: of my phone. I let him know I was doing that.
Speaker 1: I told him, if you need help resetting the password,
Speaker 1: I will let I will help you. He refused to
Speaker 1: take the help. And the craziest thing is his manager
Speaker 1: um him. They have not once contacted me and asked
Speaker 1: me for anything, not one time since they made that statement,
Speaker 1: the original statement. Have they said, hey, do you have
Speaker 1: his password or whatever? So, um, I just didn't want
Speaker 1: to get into the back and forth, but Sabrina, I
Speaker 1: do want to say I'm sorry that things didn't work out.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of times we go into these
Speaker 1: relationships and we do not anticipate all the drama and
Speaker 1: how things could possibly come to an end. Like you
Speaker 1: fall in love and you think this is it, and
Speaker 1: then you never think that the person that you fell
Speaker 1: in love with that it could end up like this,
Speaker 1: you know. So I do want to say that I
Speaker 1: am sorry that things didn't work out for you. So
Speaker 1: for you that do not feel sorry for me to
Speaker 1: any I'm not gonna sorry for you, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because I know we never get into a
Speaker 1: situation thinking it's gonna go as left publicly, and I
Speaker 1: know that's not easy too publicly because people have painted
Speaker 1: you as the bad person, you know, she's manipulative and
Speaker 1: he's taking advantage of the situations. He's cloud chasing. You know,
Speaker 1: how do you respond when people say things like that.
Speaker 1: I don't. I do not respond. I just continue to
Speaker 1: operate in my world, in my space, and it's working
Speaker 1: out very well for me. To be honest, Um, I
Speaker 1: think the more that I try to come back, which
Speaker 1: I haven't. But when I first first first saw the
Speaker 1: stuff about the passwords, my manager was literally like, is
Speaker 1: there anything you can post to show that you don't
Speaker 1: have that on your phone? I said sure. After I
Speaker 1: posted that I was done, I was like, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what he says. Moving forward, as long as there's
Speaker 1: nothing directly about my kids, I am not responding to anything,
Speaker 1: you know, I am just not doing it because my
Speaker 1: focus is on myself, that is it. And the more
Speaker 1: I continue to engage with people on social media that
Speaker 1: could talk to me in real life, the more I'm
Speaker 1: moving in the opposite direction, you know, And I'm really
Speaker 1: just moving forward, so I continue to have forward momentum
Speaker 1: when I do not respond. Why do you think Matt
Speaker 1: Barnes had something to say about you, but and you
Speaker 1: responded to him? He was one of the only people
Speaker 1: I did see respond to. But you know what you
Speaker 1: think made him say something? I think it's what I said.
Speaker 1: It was that he liked men. Oh, and that's what
Speaker 1: I told him. I think only someone that is bisexual
Speaker 1: or homosexual would want to personally say something to a
Speaker 1: woman that they have never met and know nothing about.
Speaker 1: I think that is a very female and feminine trait. Well,
Speaker 1: he probably was really just sticking up for his book.
Speaker 1: But but he that's not his boy. But that's not
Speaker 1: his boy. That's not his boy. And so that and
Speaker 1: I actually had a personal conversation with something after that,
Speaker 1: because if I was your boy, where were you during
Speaker 1: other moments when I was his only boy? You get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So where were you at when Kobe passed?
Speaker 1: When were you at when he was feeling some type
Speaker 1: of way about people find out that he's sold his rings?
Speaker 1: You know, like, don't be his boy just because you
Speaker 1: see a girl's dancing. I mean, there's so many opportunities
Speaker 1: you could have showed up to be his boy, It's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. So it's easy to say, oh, this
Speaker 1: is my boy, but no it's not. You don't even
Speaker 1: have his phone number. You don't even know how to
Speaker 1: reach him. M hm. Now let me ask you that.
Speaker 1: So you haven't watched the episode yet, right, so are
Speaker 1: you going to watch it when it comes out? I am.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about Um my friend Jasmine, who's actually
Speaker 1: on the episode. I'm sure she's the one thing I
Speaker 1: don't know, Um how much of her is on there? Um?
Speaker 1: Her family? Uh, just some close friends, um, and that's
Speaker 1: probably it. Like just a very intimate setting. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of anxious. I don't want to be out around a
Speaker 1: lot of people because I really feel like watching my
Speaker 1: mom is gonna make me emotional. So well it will okay,
Speaker 1: Well yeah, so just a lot just around some really
Speaker 1: close friends and family. I was gonna ask you, did
Speaker 1: your friends and family how did they feel about your relationship?
Speaker 1: Where they ever? Like, I don't know about this one
Speaker 1: because they're very somebody else the guy that you were
Speaker 1: with before. Yeah, so um, some of them were kind
Speaker 1: of like alright, Sabrina, what we're doing here? You know,
Speaker 1: how how long are we doing this? And um, others
Speaker 1: the more seasoned, we're kind of like, you know, push through,
Speaker 1: give us some time. Things can change. Um. But the
Speaker 1: thing is like they knew the very intimate details of
Speaker 1: the relationship because they were here and you know, Lamar
Speaker 1: was living with me in Cleveland, Ohio, so they saw everything.
Speaker 1: Um and so well, I'll say this, when we broke up,
Speaker 1: like they were not surprised and they just really wanted
Speaker 1: to see me happy, and like they definitely are seeing
Speaker 1: that now. Like you know, you focus so much on
Speaker 1: another person that you kind of lose yourself. And um,
Speaker 1: I did a good job with you know, continuing to
Speaker 1: work out and self caring those things, but it's like
Speaker 1: just like my spiritual self, my emotional self, you know,
Speaker 1: gets lost in trying to support this relationship, you know,
Speaker 1: and support the person you're in a relationship with. So
Speaker 1: I don't have to be concerned with that anymore. So
Speaker 1: I really just really get to focus on me. And
Speaker 1: I just kind of forgot how dope I can be
Speaker 1: at times, like you know, just being hodest, you know, like, wow,
Speaker 1: I forgot to do this and I forgot I am this,
Speaker 1: you know, like because it hasn't been about me. Um.
Speaker 1: So that's just been enjoying for them to watch and
Speaker 1: just like refreshing for me to feel. Now the beginning, y'all,
Speaker 1: wasn't having sex. And do you do that when you
Speaker 1: get into relationships? Do you be like, all right, no,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna have sex into a certain amount of
Speaker 1: time or did you just try that with him? Every
Speaker 1: relationship has been different, Um, this one in particular, I
Speaker 1: decided I was gonna wait because I just heard about
Speaker 1: his reputation, you know, and I just needed to see
Speaker 1: who he was, you know, and sex can kind of
Speaker 1: complicate that, um, And I just needed to see, you know,
Speaker 1: what are you here for? You know, what would the
Speaker 1: interaction be like if we're not being intimate? And in
Speaker 1: the beginning, I think that's what really built a friendship
Speaker 1: for us, because we spent a lot of time with
Speaker 1: each other but was not having sex. So what was
Speaker 1: it that made you decide to go ahead and give
Speaker 1: him something? Give up the ring? No? No? When we
Speaker 1: proposed to me, When when he proposed to me, we
Speaker 1: were abstinent. Um. We didn't have sex that night any
Speaker 1: like no night around that we were abstinent um. But
Speaker 1: I think it was just, you know, he showed he
Speaker 1: was really committed to the relationship, you know, Like I
Speaker 1: had a lot of boundaries that had at of no
Speaker 1: I'm not doing no, I don't allow and he was
Speaker 1: just like okay, okay, hey, UM didn't cross those boundaries.
Speaker 1: And so I just really felt like, you know what,
Speaker 1: he's really serious. You know, if he's done all of
Speaker 1: this and has not gotten anything, you know, sexually, for me,
Speaker 1: he may really be serious about this. I've never gone
Speaker 1: through accidence in a relationship, so so oh wow, if
Speaker 1: I have, really it really helps you experience real intimacy.
Speaker 1: So remove some questions about accedence. Okay, you can't have sex,
Speaker 1: but are there other things that you can do? Like
Speaker 1: what I mean, you can, but we chose not to
Speaker 1: because I'm just not strong enough. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: So it's like we were there, we might as well
Speaker 1: keep it going, you know. So for me, it was
Speaker 1: just like, let's not even play around with this. You
Speaker 1: can kind like those are all intimacy, like real intimacy.
Speaker 1: That's why I say you experienced real intimacy when you're
Speaker 1: not having sex. You know, there were times we would
Speaker 1: just fall asleephold hands, you know, like imagine the connection
Speaker 1: you created doing that, um, and so it's powerful. It's
Speaker 1: not easy, especially when you're living together and spending so
Speaker 1: much time together. But you know, if you understand the
Speaker 1: purpose of why you're doing it, then uh, and you
Speaker 1: focus on that in goal, then it actually becomes really
Speaker 1: really really powerful force in your relationship. How long How
Speaker 1: long was that time frame you guys? Oh? Man, Um,
Speaker 1: we weren't even together that long, so it was let's see,
Speaker 1: met in June. So I would probably say like a
Speaker 1: total of like four or five months, okay, and then
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's a lie. And you all were together
Speaker 1: a lot, so yes, we were always together. But then
Speaker 1: y'all did break up and get back together, right. That
Speaker 1: was kind of like we did at a couple of times, like, um,
Speaker 1: you know sometimes when I'm upset, like I'm a quitter,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, just get out, I'm done, you know,
Speaker 1: like check block you, you know, like in my anger,
Speaker 1: I don't want to fight, I just want to be done. Um.
Speaker 1: But when that statement was put out, that was kind
Speaker 1: of like the starting point of me being like I'm
Speaker 1: exiting this relationship, you know. And then I had an
Speaker 1: ultimatum that I gave him after that statement was put out,
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, there's only one thing you
Speaker 1: can do for us to get back together, and he said,
Speaker 1: whatever I gotta do, I'll do it. He decided to
Speaker 1: do that, and then when it came down to the time,
Speaker 1: he was sup post that he didn't do it, and
Speaker 1: so that is when I was literally like, okay, what
Speaker 1: was Yeah? What was it? I just don't want to
Speaker 1: say um because again it will start a lot of
Speaker 1: back and forth, you know, But UM, I think my
Speaker 1: statement that was put out was kind of clear that
Speaker 1: we were having some troubles in some areas and our
Speaker 1: lifestyles just were not the same. And so it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I need to change this area of your
Speaker 1: lifestyle and if not, then I can't move forward with this.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, decisions have to be made. And
Speaker 1: I was able to walk away with in peace. So
Speaker 1: you don't think this is another instance where maybe I'll
Speaker 1: break up and get back together because he did say
Speaker 1: he loves you. Oh, I on pent have no desire
Speaker 1: to ever revisit the situation with Lamordom. Right, what if
Speaker 1: how do you explain and normally reached out our show
Speaker 1: off at the tip of the day, so as somebody
Speaker 1: who has just been through this, right, how the tip
Speaker 1: of the day for today, we want you to give
Speaker 1: our listeners, is how do you know when it's time
Speaker 1: to walk away from something when you've given it your
Speaker 1: all and you're like, I can't do anymore, when you
Speaker 1: just have no peace? And I think a good indication
Speaker 1: of not having peace is like when you're just not
Speaker 1: acting like yourself. You know, and we all know what
Speaker 1: that looks like. You like, I can't leave. I just
Speaker 1: did that. I can't. I just said that, you know,
Speaker 1: like when you're just not yourself, you know, which means
Speaker 1: you have no peace and so um in anything. So
Speaker 1: that is a good and that could be early on.
Speaker 1: You know, every woman has a threshold. Everyone's time frame
Speaker 1: is different, you know the things I put up with.
Speaker 1: I know women that could have went through that for years,
Speaker 1: other women that rely on the first side of that,
Speaker 1: you know. So everyone's threshold is different. You have to
Speaker 1: understand where your worthy is. But the moment I knew
Speaker 1: like I can no longer go on with this happening
Speaker 1: is when I knew it's time to find an exit rout.
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that because there is um
Speaker 1: for myself too. I also feel like when I'm not
Speaker 1: acting like myself and I'm arguing, when I'm like depressed
Speaker 1: more than normal. When I'm more sad than happy, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is not me, Like, this is not like person.
Speaker 1: When I'm not like, you know, fulfilling my obligations and
Speaker 1: things that I have to do, because I'm more concerned
Speaker 1: about that person than I am about my responsibilities. I'm
Speaker 1: this isn't a good situation for me. And it was
Speaker 1: kind of Um. You know, I can't say how he
Speaker 1: felt because I haven't spoken with him, and the interviews
Speaker 1: and things he's done, I haven't listened. But for for me,
Speaker 1: I just knew. You know, I tell people this all
Speaker 1: the time. You have to ask yourself a question in
Speaker 1: the relationship, if the current situation doesn't change, will you
Speaker 1: be happy? Because a lot of times we stay in
Speaker 1: things in hopes of, you know, this may it better.
Speaker 1: I hope this works, if you know, And so the
Speaker 1: reality is it may not. You know, it may remain
Speaker 1: that exact situation. So the answer is no, I won't
Speaker 1: be happy. Then you're forced to make a decision, you know,
Speaker 1: and um Lamar knows more than anyone our truths of
Speaker 1: what happened, why we split. Um, that's why I said,
Speaker 1: I'm allowing him to say whatever narrative he wants because
Speaker 1: I do know men have egos, you know. Um, and
Speaker 1: he's lamar old him. You know, he's a legend. He
Speaker 1: has to remain he has to look good. You know,
Speaker 1: his image cannot be tainted by a woman. How how
Speaker 1: dare I you know? So? Um, whatever he needs to
Speaker 1: say that makes him, you know, support that image. I
Speaker 1: rock with it. Do you still love him? Because he
Speaker 1: said he still loves you? Do you still love him? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I love him a lot. He was my friend,
Speaker 1: you know. Um. There are times I'm just concerned for
Speaker 1: my friend, you know, I do. People send me stuff
Speaker 1: all the time. Um, there's still been some form of
Speaker 1: contact through people, and as a friend. My heart goes
Speaker 1: out to him sometimes because no man who says I
Speaker 1: love you, who proposed, who wanted to get married, who
Speaker 1: you saw the interview, I'm sure he spoke very well
Speaker 1: of me, who really felt thought that way, is happy
Speaker 1: that the situation has ended. You know, there could have
Speaker 1: been some grief, some sorrow, some something. And because I
Speaker 1: don't see him going through any of that at any point, Um,
Speaker 1: my heart goes out because I'm like, wow, you can't
Speaker 1: really feel you know, Um, I went for about three
Speaker 1: weeks I grieve. I'm being honest, you know, I put
Speaker 1: up a post like the first week, I'm not getting
Speaker 1: out of bed. Somebody needs to come get my daughter,
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm a wreck. I'm a mess, you know. UM,
Speaker 1: heavy with my therapist, you know, very honest and transparent
Speaker 1: with my friends, just going through the motions in my mind.
Speaker 1: I mean, I went through a heavy grieving process where
Speaker 1: like I'm not going anywhere. I don't even want to
Speaker 1: get up and look cute because it's gonna force me
Speaker 1: to just get busy and you know, create a false reality.
Speaker 1: So that first three weeks, and this was three weeks
Speaker 1: before the world found out right we had been broken up.
Speaker 1: People found out when he made that well when it
Speaker 1: was on his page about the passwords, um. And but
Speaker 1: I was like, by then, I was like, I'm over it,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not even grieving anymore, you know. So a
Speaker 1: good timing for me, because that could have hit me
Speaker 1: like a can of bricks, you know. And I was
Speaker 1: just like, by y'all, you know, if you ain't got
Speaker 1: no pass words by now, you know. Um. But I truly,
Speaker 1: with my friends and family, grieved, you know, the loss
Speaker 1: of my friend, the loss of the interaction him and
Speaker 1: I had. You know, he was staying in my house.
Speaker 1: You know, my daughter was attached to him. It was
Speaker 1: a holidays you know, we were just together on Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: you know. So, Um, once I got through that process,
Speaker 1: it was just like, you know, yes I do. I
Speaker 1: am concerned for my friend at times. Um, if I
Speaker 1: hear anything positive, I'm happy for my friend. The love
Speaker 1: will probably be there forever. You know. I literally would
Speaker 1: love to look up and see Lamar one day and
Speaker 1: be like, Wow, look how well he's doing, you know,
Speaker 1: and that's it. We would be a lesson that you
Speaker 1: can say that you learned from your experience in this
Speaker 1: relationship that you would take with you moving forward to
Speaker 1: a new relations ship. Um, you know, you just I
Speaker 1: would say, when someone appears to be unhealthy, you just
Speaker 1: have to allow them to go get healthy, you know, like,
Speaker 1: don't try don't try to Yeah. And and there were
Speaker 1: times where I think people think I tried to fix him.
Speaker 1: What I tried to do? I would ask Lamar, what
Speaker 1: is it that you want to do? And he would
Speaker 1: tell me, and I said, okay, well let me support
Speaker 1: you in that. You know, even if it was getting
Speaker 1: back into shape. He told me all the time, I
Speaker 1: want to play basketball again. Okay, well, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the gym. You know every morning. There
Speaker 1: were times I would wake him up at five, we
Speaker 1: go to lifetime. Um, I would make him do two
Speaker 1: fifty makes, not shots makes. I would count all the makes.
Speaker 1: I would count all the miss mrs. I would calculate
Speaker 1: his percentages. We would run a mile, we would go
Speaker 1: lift later. Because it's what you told me you wanted
Speaker 1: to do, you know. Um. And then if that changed, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, ef you want let's
Speaker 1: do this. Okay. I'm just gonna support you and whatever
Speaker 1: it is you want to do. You know. That's that's healthy,
Speaker 1: right because obviously with him not being in the NBA,
Speaker 1: he's figuring his life out like a lot of guys.
Speaker 1: Do what is it that you want to do moving forward?
Speaker 1: What is going to be the thing that makes you money?
Speaker 1: You know? Um, let's figure that out and let me
Speaker 1: support you in that as long as it makes sense,
Speaker 1: you know, on both ends of the spectrum. Um, what
Speaker 1: kind of dad do you want to be? Let me
Speaker 1: help you figure that out. So it wasn't just like Lamar,
Speaker 1: this is broken. You gotta you know, like I wanted
Speaker 1: him to be him, but the unhealthy areas, when I
Speaker 1: saw what those were, I should have made a conscious
Speaker 1: decision then to say, this probably isn't gonna work for me,
Speaker 1: you know, because I have trauma because of this. You know,
Speaker 1: I grew up in that environment. It doesn't allow me
Speaker 1: to be myself when I see you doing certain things
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you're gonna stop, So I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope you will. I pray you will. You know, um,
Speaker 1: I think you will. But all of that is not
Speaker 1: you did, you know, so it should have been Hey,
Speaker 1: until this happens, we can revisit the situation. The problem
Speaker 1: was when I got out with Lamar, I let him know.
Speaker 1: You know, I have a problem with drugs period. You know.
Speaker 1: I don't like to operate around I like to be
Speaker 1: around it. I want my kids around it. And that
Speaker 1: includes weed and you because you did have your own
Speaker 1: issues that you went through and you are yes. And
Speaker 1: even though I didn't be myself morphine, you know, it
Speaker 1: was still in my system and it was something I
Speaker 1: became very dependent on and um and then growing up
Speaker 1: in a you know, abusive environment. But because of that,
Speaker 1: I expressed to him that's a problem for me, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: so we stopped. You know. So when you have a
Speaker 1: man that's just so willing to do or not do
Speaker 1: things to make the relationship work, you kind of a
Speaker 1: little bit more patient. But the truth is, men can't
Speaker 1: do things to make you happy. They have to make
Speaker 1: things because it makes them happen, because they're ready to
Speaker 1: do it, you know. And that can be confusing because
Speaker 1: it kind of appears the same because if you stop smoking,
Speaker 1: you stop smoking, you know. But I really needed to revisit, well,
Speaker 1: I needed him to visit with a therapist because I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be the therapist, like get into therapy
Speaker 1: and figure out why you you know, have to do
Speaker 1: this or do the desire or unable to stop. And
Speaker 1: um that that just didn't that didn't that didn't have
Speaker 1: that wasn't the end results. So the drugs didn't stop. Um,
Speaker 1: that's what we're getting from this. It was that he
Speaker 1: still was using. You know, people say things too, like
Speaker 1: we've seen the Drink Champs interview and people felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, he was going through something. And even again,
Speaker 1: like I said, I interviewed him the other day in
Speaker 1: the comments, was like, is he hi now? So is
Speaker 1: that you know? Is that still an issue you believe?
Speaker 1: I don't know what Lamar is doing. I have not
Speaker 1: spoken to him, so I cannot speak on what he's
Speaker 1: he's dealing with right now. Current if it calls you,
Speaker 1: if he calls you with you answer, do you believe
Speaker 1: that he doesn't call me? Okay, so he has been
Speaker 1: calling you. Just like I said, I am going to
Speaker 1: allow his narrative to be his narratives, right because despite
Speaker 1: the rumors of what people want to believe about me,
Speaker 1: you know, my truth is my truth. And you know,
Speaker 1: when you're like innocent, like you don't really have to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not in court, you know, so I
Speaker 1: don't feel the need to defend myself to strangers. I
Speaker 1: am talking and stuff. So my friends and family they know,
Speaker 1: like everyone knows that that matters, I'll say. And I
Speaker 1: do also feel like, you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: this was Lamar's character before to be so outspoken with
Speaker 1: these type of things, you know, um, and so to me,
Speaker 1: it just seems like you just want to be heard,
Speaker 1: and so go ahead and tell whatever story you gotta
Speaker 1: tell to be heard. You know, I'm just not going
Speaker 1: to combat. And I also don't want to say anything
Speaker 1: negatively about him to even start that whole back and forth.
Speaker 1: You know, what did you learn about yourself from all
Speaker 1: this and what you went moving forward in a partner?
Speaker 1: It's funny did you say that because the shape room
Speaker 1: had like posted like name the qualities you wanted a man?
Speaker 1: And you know, I was commented on the shape room
Speaker 1: way before I ever was on the shape room. So
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, everybody heard of me. Look, you
Speaker 1: can't say anything more. I say, Um, I put healthy, sober,
Speaker 1: okay for the room, right and never ly And I
Speaker 1: was but that's what I learned, you know, Like that's
Speaker 1: what I learned. No, I didn't have anything to a finances.
Speaker 1: Did I know you got the broke? I did not.
Speaker 1: Didn't you say something about him being broke? See, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I read it on one of the bugs
Speaker 1: that you said he was broke. Finding where I said
Speaker 1: that man was okay, find it and people. But when
Speaker 1: people say that, I'm like, show me, show me where
Speaker 1: I said that. You know, um, I think anything I
Speaker 1: say though, they think it's about Lamar you know, like
Speaker 1: I've been posting quote way before hit me like it's
Speaker 1: just it's who I am. But um so healthy, sober, Yes,
Speaker 1: I can remember the other two things that I um
Speaker 1: but I wrote. But and healthy for me, I'm an athlete.
Speaker 1: I want to work out, you know, I like to
Speaker 1: play basketball. It's what I do, you know, So I
Speaker 1: need that in the park. That's what I need. You
Speaker 1: know if if I'm getting them going to the gym
Speaker 1: and you're not that bothers me, you know, like I
Speaker 1: need us to be on the same page with that.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I mean. Like healthy, you know,
Speaker 1: like care about your health, um, care about what you
Speaker 1: put in your body. Yeah, and all of that because
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to be eating you know, spinage,
Speaker 1: rice and vegetables, and it's like I have to fire
Speaker 1: you chicken, you know like that. It's like it's just
Speaker 1: you know, and then I'm at the hospital with you
Speaker 1: because you are your arteries are clogged or now you
Speaker 1: have you know, like because there's side effects to everything,
Speaker 1: you know as you get older. So um, just someone
Speaker 1: that already understands, you know, a healthy body, a healthy mind,
Speaker 1: you know, it's all equates to self love sober like
Speaker 1: people being high and just needing to be high like
Speaker 1: that just doesn't work for me, you know, because I
Speaker 1: don't get high. So if you're getting high, well then
Speaker 1: what am I doing? But what about a recreation on marijuana?
Speaker 1: Like every now and then somebody smokes weed? Could you
Speaker 1: do that or no? Yes, I've done that before. Um
Speaker 1: And and I don't think everyone that smokes weed is
Speaker 1: an addict, But an addict smoking something is a problem.
Speaker 1: You know, most addicts should probably not do anything, you know.
Speaker 1: Um And I learned that from my mom. You know,
Speaker 1: as you know from the show, she struggled with addiction.
Speaker 1: She won't drink, she won't do anything because everything triggers
Speaker 1: the addicts brain to go back to. You know. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like how they feel avoid how they deal
Speaker 1: with trauma is getting high. So anything could be a trigger. So, um,
Speaker 1: that's a problem. But people doing recreational I mean, I
Speaker 1: smoke hooka. It's not a good girl. That's the healthiest thing,
Speaker 1: you know. I drink wine, I drink liquor, you know,
Speaker 1: but I don't overuse it. I don't over drink it
Speaker 1: because I'm not an addict. So that's important to me
Speaker 1: and a partner, you know, and being a good father,
Speaker 1: you know, if you already have kids, Like how do
Speaker 1: your kids feel about you? How do you interact with
Speaker 1: your children? You know, are they going to be upset
Speaker 1: with me because you're with me and they haven't seen
Speaker 1: you? You You know, like these things matter, you know, Um
Speaker 1: did you meet his kids plenty of time? Because daughter
Speaker 1: was at the engagement party? Um, you know, Dessie and
Speaker 1: I actually spent some time with each other, um l
Speaker 1: J not as much and rightfully so, like I respect
Speaker 1: their feelings position you know, who knows what all they
Speaker 1: went through with their dad, you know and their mom.
Speaker 1: So UM, I really just have to respect whatever their
Speaker 1: position was. But um, in reality, you know, they just
Speaker 1: want their dad, you know, like by themselves, and so
Speaker 1: seeing him do anything outside of that is just challenging
Speaker 1: for them. And I saw that with the time that
Speaker 1: I spent with them. M but saping it. We appreciate
Speaker 1: you for being so open and honest, and I can't
Speaker 1: wait for you to say get me in trouble. Well,
Speaker 1: you didn't say anything negative perfectly, like I just listen.
Speaker 1: I will continue to say whatever he says. This let
Speaker 1: it be the truth, y'all. Let him have it. You
Speaker 1: gotta be sitting some wine and something's gonna happen, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, Okay, now, no, I have been tempted.
Speaker 1: I have been tempted. But this is why it's important
Speaker 1: to have good people around you, because they say, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be the results of this. Is he even
Speaker 1: a position to be honest? You know? Is he even
Speaker 1: speaking for himself? You know, he has some people around
Speaker 1: him right now. They are very vocal, you know, so, um,
Speaker 1: is it even worth it? So? I think what I
Speaker 1: portrayed on my page, it's really who I am. You know,
Speaker 1: if you scroll down before Lamar, you'll see me doing
Speaker 1: the same things literally, you know, exercise and playing basketball,
Speaker 1: dressing up, being cute, motivating, empowering women, selingtee selling wage trainers.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just what I've what I've done, and
Speaker 1: so I'm still that person. Okay, well, well listen, we
Speaker 1: already saw it, but I know people are gonna be
Speaker 1: watching and weighing in when that episode airs. But I
Speaker 1: did appreciate learning more about you as a person because
Speaker 1: I know you were thrust into the spotlight just because
Speaker 1: of who you were dating. But now we get to
Speaker 1: see who you are as unexpectedly, I might add, unexpectantly.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, I didn't you tell
Speaker 1: me this is what you were about to do. UM.
Speaker 1: I could have been a little bit more prepared for
Speaker 1: but it happened. It is what it is. But they
Speaker 1: good for a business for you as a trainer and
Speaker 1: like working with people. Was it at least good for
Speaker 1: business in the beginning, No, because I was overwhelmed with
Speaker 1: orders and I just was not like equipped. I didn't
Speaker 1: have the team for it. Oh my god, it was
Speaker 1: so unprepared. I was like that day he posted me,
Speaker 1: I had like five orders. I was wasn't even with
Speaker 1: my work stuff, but was in l a with him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we gotta hire somebody. I gotta, you know,
Speaker 1: try to figure this out. But it actually taught me
Speaker 1: how to be a better businesswoman, how to UM operate
Speaker 1: better in customer service, you know, and also told me like, wow,
Speaker 1: I have some really good products, you know, like people,
Speaker 1: there was a need for what I'm selling UM. And
Speaker 1: then there was a time when Lamar really supported what
Speaker 1: I did. It really pushed my brand and my my products. So, Um,
Speaker 1: I think people really can't remember that Lamar Oldom but
Speaker 1: um that helped because it was like it was the
Speaker 1: person I was with was very supportive of what I
Speaker 1: had going on. Yeah, I'm a big kan if I
Speaker 1: was looking at the bright side of things. At least
Speaker 1: this came out of it. At least I learned this.
Speaker 1: At least I know more about myself. At least being
Speaker 1: with him got me on this show on the own network,
Speaker 1: you know, to talk about my life. The concept of
Speaker 1: the entire show was amazing, you know, to highlight the
Speaker 1: phenomenal women in these men's lives. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: love that to have been chosen to be one that
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have happened this stage in my life if
Speaker 1: it wasn't for Lamar. You know. Um even there's something
Speaker 1: coming out really soon and they're gonna really be able
Speaker 1: to visually see how Lamar and I acted, um interactive
Speaker 1: with each other. So stay tuned for that, and you
Speaker 1: can't come back real life videos um so UM that's
Speaker 1: exciting and um like really really soon. So by the
Speaker 1: time this show airs on your podcast days later, you
Speaker 1: will probably seeing the war and I interacting um in
Speaker 1: our relationship, And is it hard for you to watch that? Well,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet, but of course it will be,
Speaker 1: you know, because I just have to be honest, you know,
Speaker 1: that was my man. I loved him, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: I thought we were going to be together forever. You know,
Speaker 1: I thought I was marrying him in November, you know,
Speaker 1: So for that to be done, I would be inhuman
Speaker 1: to say, it's not hard, you know, Um, but that
Speaker 1: was a good season in my life, you know, like
Speaker 1: the whole relationship was not bad. You know. Because it
Speaker 1: ended doesn't mean that it was just a horrible time
Speaker 1: in my life. It was a great time in my life.
Speaker 1: Him and I had so much fun together. I've learned
Speaker 1: so much because of him. I was able to have
Speaker 1: so many different experiences that I would not have had
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for the bar and our relationship, you know.
Speaker 1: And I learned a different level of compassion and empathy,
Speaker 1: you know, dealing with a man like that. So, um,
Speaker 1: moving into the next relationship, I learned for my mistakes,
Speaker 1: I know how to be better, you know. I know
Speaker 1: the things that I did really well. So it's not
Speaker 1: all the lost cause, but you know, it can be
Speaker 1: tough to watch because I'm gonna be like, oh, I
Speaker 1: remember that moment, and that was a really good because
Speaker 1: you were you too are filming a reality show, so
Speaker 1: that's still coming out. It is still coming out perfect timing, right,
Speaker 1: And so all of these shows are kind of like,
Speaker 1: these are my responses. I'll let you guys decide. Maybe
Speaker 1: this will be a big story line Like the Kardashians.
Speaker 1: I feel like he learned something from them when he
Speaker 1: was over there. I'm sure no, he did learn a lot. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't really know what his space he's in. Um,
Speaker 1: just hearing the little things that I hear. I hope
Speaker 1: it moves to a space of just you know, an
Speaker 1: open heart and open mind so that he can just
Speaker 1: be a little bit more at peace with the situation.
Speaker 1: But either way, it will allow these same fans to
Speaker 1: see for themselves what was going over you know, how
Speaker 1: were they really interact too with each other? You know?
Speaker 1: Or she just spending his money or you know what,
Speaker 1: what was really happening? You know? Um? And when I
Speaker 1: hear the whole gold gold digger thing, it really makes
Speaker 1: me laugh. He was with you because you're like, I'm hello,
Speaker 1: his belly Andry. I said, you called them broke. You
Speaker 1: you said that he was running low on cash. I
Speaker 1: was trying to find until he said something like that. Right,
Speaker 1: I see like ten articles. I didn't click on it.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you what I did. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you what people are referencing. Okay, there
Speaker 1: was a Tyler Perry quote that I reposted. That's it.
Speaker 1: Before you get married. You have to learn people in
Speaker 1: all four stages, when they're happy, angry, sad, and so
Speaker 1: remember I reposted that and then I added to it,
Speaker 1: you definitely learned who a person is when they're broke.
Speaker 1: That is what I said. That sounds like shay girl,
Speaker 1: but it was right after we broke up. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a timeline, but but shade to you know, it could
Speaker 1: be in shade to a family member, and you know,
Speaker 1: it could have been shade to a co worker an
Speaker 1: employer that I had. I think it's anything I say
Speaker 1: right now, it's like you're talking about lamar, like I
Speaker 1: have other things going on, you know. So that's why
Speaker 1: I said, like I never said that, you know, um,
Speaker 1: But but people will be able to see what's true
Speaker 1: what's not just based one how he lives, how I live.
Speaker 1: You know what the situation was, and I it's kind
Speaker 1: of productive for me to say anything negatively about him.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be honest. But your house looks nice
Speaker 1: from right I am. I'm in Cleveland, Ohio. Remember how
Speaker 1: stif we had in Cleveland. In Cleveland, I'm glad, Like
Speaker 1: what's in Cleveland. I'm like Cleveland US now. But we
Speaker 1: were in that downtown area where they have all the
Speaker 1: nice rested rhyme said lows nice. Yeah, DJ step Loss
Speaker 1: we got to step Yeah, that's my god. I've known
Speaker 1: him since I was like five years old. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's who we were with Cleveland times. You'll go back
Speaker 1: a little further. He's from Shaker, you know from the
Speaker 1: documentary the show. I'm from Shaker as well. So he
Speaker 1: was going to school there when I was going to
Speaker 1: school there. Um. Yeah, he's a really good friend of
Speaker 1: line and he'd be doing all that and he does
Speaker 1: all that running and he does um he's I used
Speaker 1: to be. I used to be part of his car
Speaker 1: run with the Winner. Um. I used to be a
Speaker 1: part of that group before I moved to Atlanta. Since
Speaker 1: I've moved back in the whole COVID thing. I don't
Speaker 1: even think they've had it going on. Um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: he is vegan, so I love that he's thinking about
Speaker 1: his health now. Uh. And he doesn't day as much
Speaker 1: anymore either, so he's not drinking as much as he
Speaker 1: used to. I'm assuming, um, but all the time, ever,
Speaker 1: we shot at the shot after shot we've seen in
Speaker 1: a documentary. I wanted to say that you've done a
Speaker 1: little bit too. So, like when you was in there,
Speaker 1: how did you make the time pass? I know you
Speaker 1: you're able to keep your legs closed, but was the
Speaker 1: girl's hitting on you in there? You know what? I
Speaker 1: think I just had an aura where it was like,
Speaker 1: don't try me, you know, like and but I was
Speaker 1: also they nicknamed me like the librarian, like I was
Speaker 1: busy reading, you know, like you couldn't do where I was.
Speaker 1: The facility I was in, like, you couldn't exercise, you
Speaker 1: can't go outside, there's literally nothing to do, and the
Speaker 1: facility is overpopulated. So we were on something called red
Speaker 1: zone was and you just can't come out of your
Speaker 1: room because it's not enough inmates to staff ratio, right,
Speaker 1: so you either will lose your mind or you'll find
Speaker 1: something to do with your mind. And so my dad
Speaker 1: was the one that actually was because he's done a
Speaker 1: lot of time, was the one able to guide me
Speaker 1: on what to do, you know, um, to not lose
Speaker 1: your mind and to not become an at it because
Speaker 1: a lot of people they just go to the mad car.
Speaker 1: They get something to deal with their anxiety, the depression,
Speaker 1: and they get out and they still are looking for
Speaker 1: that medicine. So he taught me, stay away from the
Speaker 1: mad car. I don't care what you do, don't give,
Speaker 1: don't have them give you anything, and find something to
Speaker 1: focus on. And so I focused on reading self help books,
Speaker 1: books on finance. Business is actually where I came in
Speaker 1: with the whole get up to part name and business.
Speaker 1: When I was incarcerated and I read over fifty five
Speaker 1: books in six months. I just yeah, and I wasn't
Speaker 1: a reader before, you know, but it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I have to do something. I became addicted to send
Speaker 1: me the next book, you know um. And so that
Speaker 1: is what I did. That is how I passed time.
Speaker 1: And then I started writing my own books. What about
Speaker 1: a hundred pages of it, you know, my life story.
Speaker 1: Why I went to jail, what was happening while it
Speaker 1: was in jail, which I will finish very soon, amazing
Speaker 1: story because it will go into detail like just what
Speaker 1: happened while respect and my ex husband because he's such
Speaker 1: a great man, he's a great dad, but just really
Speaker 1: talking about me. So this will be like the extended
Speaker 1: version of my episode on Behind the Man. So and
Speaker 1: then you came and got an amazing shade too, which
Speaker 1: you know what I'm about to say. Gigi went to
Speaker 1: jail for a week and came bad of her girlfriend.
Speaker 1: I didn't not so she still loves her do somebody
Speaker 1: in there. I just let her like do things for
Speaker 1: me with her mouth sometimes, I see. I was. I
Speaker 1: couldn't get past like the nasty environment, like honestly was
Speaker 1: like my nerves are you under the bus? I was.
Speaker 1: I didn't even want to touch myself, like I couldn't
Speaker 1: shave what you know. It was just like this ain't
Speaker 1: the season for that, you know. Like and so then
Speaker 1: it taught me like if I can go six months
Speaker 1: without doing a thing, or I'm out here in these
Speaker 1: days streets, you know, like they can't they can't brib
Speaker 1: me to do anything, you know, So um, all of
Speaker 1: it worked out for the best. It made me stronger.
Speaker 1: I learned a lot. Um, that's another season of my life.
Speaker 1: You know that I'm very transparent about people trying to
Speaker 1: use it against me, and I'm like, I've been posted
Speaker 1: my own mug shot way before you do who I was.
Speaker 1: You know, like, I'm okay with this, but they literally
Speaker 1: will be like you he should have never been with
Speaker 1: somebody went to jail, you know. Like people are always
Speaker 1: really just mind their business. The problem is their business
Speaker 1: is so hurtful for them, Like they can't even tap
Speaker 1: into their own business, you know, so they have to
Speaker 1: be over here with me or them or whatever, and
Speaker 1: like that's just the reflection of self, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: when you're just ugly inside, you just have to find
Speaker 1: something ugly about other people. And I've really learned that,
Speaker 1: so I promise you I do not take a personal
Speaker 1: when strangers face like you don't even know me, and
Speaker 1: people just be assuming things and saying crazy, they know me,
Speaker 1: they know everything. They were in our bed, they know
Speaker 1: exactly what money was being spent, what we were doing,
Speaker 1: you know. So I think it's just funny when they say,
Speaker 1: like you did this with him, Like when you where,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's why the show is gonna be
Speaker 1: so dope because it's literally going to show what they know.
Speaker 1: And I'm so real on there, Like there's days like
Speaker 1: I'm not putting on makeup, I'm wearing my Nike hat,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I'm really myself, you know, every day.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be the cute girl that's on
Speaker 1: the TV like you know, I'm operating with business, you know,
Speaker 1: on my son and all this stuff. I was really like,
Speaker 1: I want this to really be my reality or I'm
Speaker 1: not doing it, you know. And that's the most powerful
Speaker 1: thing about the whole thing. So I can't wait for
Speaker 1: you guys to see that because I'm sure we'll be
Speaker 1: talking soon once you guys see it. Yes, we well
Speaker 1: and on there too and his wife. Yeah, I tryed
Speaker 1: to watch that one. But Sabrina, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you again from being self transparent and open
Speaker 1: about everything, and we are wishing you the best. We
Speaker 1: can't wait to see who you end up with next. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: I'll say this that you're ready for. Are you ready
Speaker 1: to move on to a new relationship or do you
Speaker 1: feel like you need to take some time off of
Speaker 1: love before you take that step again. Oh, I'm definitely
Speaker 1: not ready at all because I'm struggling with like just
Speaker 1: trusting who people are. But there is someone that I'm
Speaker 1: getting to know, okay, and and you know, um he
Speaker 1: you know, he checks off some boxes, which is good.
Speaker 1: You know those things I mentioned earlier, things that I
Speaker 1: need those qualities, um, and so just literally getting to
Speaker 1: know you know who he does. Yet there's nothing happening
Speaker 1: with these boxes. Um. But yeah, so and just learning like, Okay,
Speaker 1: even if it's really exciting in the beginning, just learning
Speaker 1: how to slow that down. You know, it's always exciting,
Speaker 1: and it again always right, and it's so exciting, like
Speaker 1: you ignore the red flags. The flags just be waving.
Speaker 1: You'd be like, but I'm having so much fun, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see that. So my therapist, she
Speaker 1: does a really good job with just giving me other
Speaker 1: things to think about and focus on, to kind of
Speaker 1: negate the excitement of getting to know someone, you know,
Speaker 1: like keeping me in touch with reality, you know, continuing
Speaker 1: to focus on me my needs. Um, just different practices.
Speaker 1: Because she was a part of our relationship and she
Speaker 1: was like, this time, we don't get to notice person.
Speaker 1: You know, when she saw everything happening, she was like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe Lamar, we'll do that, we'll say that,
Speaker 1: And I was like, neither did I. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: we didn't notice man. So just that part is the
Speaker 1: part was scared that. I'm like, I'm not ready because
Speaker 1: I don't trust what you're saying to be true yet,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's not his problem. It's my problem,
Speaker 1: you know, that's my insecurity. So I have to do
Speaker 1: the work to get in the place where I can
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, exactly what you're saying is what it is,
Speaker 1: and even if it isn't, I'm in a healthy enough
Speaker 1: space to respond to it so that don't come later. Um,
Speaker 1: I have so many things going on. The show's coming
Speaker 1: out that I just did a sneak about My skin
Speaker 1: care line is coming out, My athletic apparel line is
Speaker 1: coming out. Yeah, It's like I'm literally and talk to
Speaker 1: the chemists now, full skin care line, you know, cosmetics line, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, rebranding my hole to bring up our fitness.
Speaker 1: So that's all day, every day, you know, So to
Speaker 1: have time for a man, it's like I really have
Speaker 1: to make it to be honest, and I haven't had
Speaker 1: like a week of no Lamar Odom news yet, which
Speaker 1: is important. Like and he's not not gonna happen anytime
Speaker 1: soon coming up, I know. So it's like that's important
Speaker 1: to undertook consider like I need space where it's just like, wow,
Speaker 1: there's been nothing about Lamar to you know, Like I know,
Speaker 1: I know, but that's important for me to move on
Speaker 1: to the next chapter. It's like, and I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about the stuff that maybe on his page. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about like in my personal life, the things that he's
Speaker 1: not going to mention and be honest about that are
Speaker 1: happening and being said. It's like I need that to
Speaker 1: clear up before I can really say I'm in this
Speaker 1: next relationship, you know, because that may cause some insecurities
Speaker 1: with any guy, Like okay, we've still gotten having to
Speaker 1: do this on the phone, you know. So, Um, you're right,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen anytime soon, but God willing it
Speaker 1: will happen because like it'll just he'll just be gone
Speaker 1: somewhere and I don't and you can be able to
Speaker 1: move on in a healthy environment and you all look
Speaker 1: back and be like damn, I went through some ship.
Speaker 1: It's the lessons, it's the lesson. As long as you
Speaker 1: can take the life for its lessons and learn from
Speaker 1: it and move on, is never a loss. It's a
Speaker 1: lesson being out. We appreciate you so much again behind
Speaker 1: every Man and then we're looking forward to what we
Speaker 1: are going to watch the reality show too and see
Speaker 1: how that plays out. That's a good but much support
Speaker 1: to you and much love. Thank you with all your
Speaker 1: adventures and everything you've got going on. Thank you. Same
Speaker 1: to you, gud, Thank you baby, alright. Thanks