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Speaker 1: This Louie Gomert, and I just love doing this. Some

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Speaker 1: people say, why would you do this year? Member Congress?

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Speaker 1: For Haaving's sake. One of the jobs of members of

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Speaker 1: you know, something we've been dealing with, and I believe,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump was a wall. And we didn't need the

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Speaker 1: wall and still don't need the wall two thousand miles,

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Speaker 1: it eliminates ninety five plus percent of illegal immigration in

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Speaker 1: horrendous the idea of a wall is. They got walls

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Speaker 1: you play my good friend mister gautieris talking to the

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Speaker 1: during Christmas, a time in which we celebrate the birth

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Speaker 1: Thank God that wall wasn't there. And thank god there

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Speaker 1: have perished on the twenty eight on the Day of Innocence,

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Speaker 1: Todd from Georgia, twenty six year Army VET Todd, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Sean Hannity Show. This is Louis Gomert. What's

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Speaker 1: your comment about our border. Yes, sir, thank you for

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Speaker 1: well exactly, And we're gonna have Tom Fitton on the

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Speaker 1: huge problem, and we are funding the corruption in Mexico.

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Speaker 1: What kind of caring people refuse to stop the flow

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Speaker 1: we can to defund the drug carteales. I've been down

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Speaker 1: there many times myself, Todd, and we've seen it. And

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Speaker 1: We've got an incredible show. Some people you need to

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Speaker 1: Mullar operation is lacking. And you know, for all the

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Speaker 1: you know, absent people like Louis Gombert, Few and Congress

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Speaker 1: have been willing to provide oversight of Mueller and take

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Speaker 1: him on more directly and his gargantuan operation on more directly.

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Speaker 1: And he's someone who is operating beyond all constitutional scope, authority,

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Speaker 1: and guidance. And it's something that needs to change, and

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Speaker 1: that's what we aim to do through our own litigation now.

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Speaker 1: But he is acting within this extraordinary scope that Rosenstein

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Speaker 1: is given him. Basically, anything you want to do, and

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Speaker 1: as long as he's acting under the colors of federal law,

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Speaker 1: then he can't be charged. But there are things he

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Speaker 1: could be charged with. And I would sure like to

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Speaker 1: see a special counsel go digging into that Russia uranium

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Speaker 1: investigation and how they silenced everybody so that you know,

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Speaker 1: the sale could go through and that resulted in Hillary

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Speaker 1: get one hundred and forty five million for the Clinton Foundation.

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Speaker 1: We got to take a break, Tom, Can you come

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Speaker 1: back on the other side. Can you hold on with us?

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Speaker 1: All right, this is the Sean Hannity Show. Louie gomer

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Speaker 1: Be brought back with Tom fittonhead of Judicial Watch. Call

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Speaker 1: Seawn Well eight hundred nine for one, Seawan and we'll

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Speaker 1: be right back. The Sean Hannity Show. Louie Gomert sitting

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Speaker 1: in for Sean, and I have with me Judicial Watch

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Speaker 1: as President, Tom Fitton and Tom. You know, regarding Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton emails, the President then Obama had said, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: there is no evidence intent to anything inappropriate. But actually

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Speaker 1: James Carville gave us evidence of intent. He knows the

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Speaker 1: Clinton's well, and he said basically that she didn't want

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Speaker 1: Louie Gomert rifling through her emails, and I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: I and others would have. But let's take a call

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Speaker 1: quickly from James from Georgia. James, welcome to the Sean

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Speaker 1: Andy Show. You got Louie Gomert and Tom Fitton. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much, Louise. Pleasure to talk with both

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Speaker 1: of you. Look, I love Sean Show. But I'm at

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Speaker 1: with end with all this. You know, all across this

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Speaker 1: nation tomorrow people are going to be in court paying

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Speaker 1: fines from everything from running a stop sign to theft,

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Speaker 1: or possibly even going to prison for worst crimes. Now,

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Speaker 1: the things that's frustrating me the most. When are these

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Speaker 1: people gonna be held account? I want to see James

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Speaker 1: comey in handcuffs. There was a time in this nation's

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Speaker 1: history someone like Peter Struck would have been taken outside

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Speaker 1: and shot in the face for attempting to usurp the

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Speaker 1: will of the American people. Well, there were lies, There

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Speaker 1: were all kinds of things that could lead to criminal charges,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think we can close the book on

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Speaker 1: that yet. But James, let me tell you, I don't

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Speaker 1: think you will find two people that are more frustrated

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Speaker 1: with the very thing that you pointed out than Tom

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Speaker 1: Fitton and Louie Gomert, And there'll be others on the

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Speaker 1: show the same way. We are as probably more upset

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Speaker 1: than you are. And a lot of the reason is

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Speaker 1: we didn't have Republican leaders who would stand up and

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Speaker 1: take a position, and it has really hurt us. What

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Speaker 1: do you think, Tom, Well, you know, Look, no, there's

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Speaker 1: no time when someone had been taken out and been

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Speaker 1: shot in the face. Look, Peter Struck may have committed crimes.

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Speaker 1: He needs to be investigated seriously by the Justice Department.

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Speaker 1: That's not being done. I don't want to guarantee of prosecutions,

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Speaker 1: this is the rule of law here, but I want

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Speaker 1: serious investigations that people can have confidence in your callers

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Speaker 1: highlighting the fact that regular people are subject to serious

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Speaker 1: investigations when there's obvious crimes, they're often prosecuted and convicted.

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Speaker 1: And that's not the case for powerful people too often

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Speaker 1: here in Washington, DC, especially if they're in key positions

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Speaker 1: on law enforcement point in the FBI and Justice Department.

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Speaker 1: And so true, Well, we got to take a hard break,

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Speaker 1: but we're going to keep pushing to hold them accountable.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Come on back, Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: Louie Gomert sitting in. Thank you, Tom Fitt. This is

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Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show. This is Louie Gomert sitting in

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Speaker 1: from my dear brother Sean Hannity. Just love that guy.

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Speaker 1: Welcome and if you have calls, questions, comments, call eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and nine four one Sean. That's eight hundred nine

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Speaker 1: four one seventy three two six. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: during the last half hour, I appreciate the just the

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Speaker 1: vim and vigor of our callers, but there was a

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Speaker 1: teachable moment here one said, Gee, there was a time

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Speaker 1: when somebody lied like that, you'd take him much, shoot

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Speaker 1: him in the face. And actually, I don't believe as

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Speaker 1: a historian, I ever recall any time when that was

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Speaker 1: ever legal. I do believe in the death penalty, but

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Speaker 1: I've spent my adult life making sure that nothing was

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Speaker 1: done on behalf of the government of that nature unless

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Speaker 1: there was due process. May shock you, guys, because most

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Speaker 1: of you are hopefully a lot of you know how

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Speaker 1: conservative I am. I have pronounced two death penalties, but

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Speaker 1: as an attorney, I got court appointed to appeal to

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Speaker 1: capital murder conviction, and as I told our highest court

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Speaker 1: in Texas. Look, I'm not some weekneed guy coming in here.

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Speaker 1: It's totally against the death penalty. I think there are

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Speaker 1: cases where it's appropriate, and of course not ever for

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Speaker 1: just lying. But as I told them, but before you

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Speaker 1: can ever use an extraordinary measure like that, you've got

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Speaker 1: to make sure there's due process. And as I told them,

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Speaker 1: in this case, it didn't happen. And that's why this

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Speaker 1: case must be reversed. And I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: members of Congress has ever had a death penalty sentence reversed,

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Speaker 1: but I did so. Due process is still important. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter who you are. This is America, and thank

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Speaker 1: goodness for that. It's still a little longer. Now. I

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Speaker 1: am excited to have two of my dear friends coming

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Speaker 1: on the show, both Congress members. Morgan Griffith is elected

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Speaker 1: Congress from Virginia's ninth district and Scott Perry, also a

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Speaker 1: that soon, but also from Pennsylvania, but the fourth district.

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Speaker 1: And they're here to talk about the need to secure

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Speaker 1: the border and the funding for the wall in the

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Speaker 1: question and comment eight hundred nine four one seventy three

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Speaker 1: tweets here from President to Trump. He says border patrol

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Speaker 1: been down there too many times. Talk to him too.

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Speaker 1: open southern border in the large scale crime that comes

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Speaker 1: with such stupidity. Well, there's a guy that calls it

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Speaker 1: like he sees it. That's something I like. But welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Sean Hannity Show. My dear friends, Morgan Griffith

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Speaker 1: and Scott Perry. Not only are they good friends, but

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Speaker 1: they're both brilliant. And Morgan Griffith I got to say,

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Speaker 1: after we lost the majority in two thousand and six,

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Speaker 1: I started carrying around the rules of the House and

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Speaker 1: I felt like, gosh, it struck me. I've never been

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Speaker 1: of the court. And I didn't know all the rules

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Speaker 1: because so many of them are not actually rules. But

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Speaker 1: they can go to Morgan and Scott Perry, God bless him.

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Speaker 1: He feels the way we do. And those that have

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Speaker 1: problem with doing that. So welcome to Sean Andity Show.

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Speaker 1: Morgan Griffiths got Perry glad to have you here. Morgan,

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Speaker 1: let me start with you. What could we do to

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Speaker 1: of things we could do. Unfortunately, I'm hearing Louis that

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Speaker 1: because there are things we could do. Of course, the

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Speaker 1: easiest one would be for the Senate to revise its

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Speaker 1: rules in cases like this and get rid of the

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Speaker 1: modern filibuster rule, which didn't come about until the nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 1: Go back to the story rule where you actually have

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Speaker 1: to stand in the well of the Senate argue your case.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't that make sense? So I love that. I mean

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Speaker 1: that was you know, Jimmy Stewart, Miss Smith goes for

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Speaker 1: to stand there and debate. We're not just going to

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Speaker 1: have a gentleman's agreement. You can say you're going to

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Speaker 1: fillibuster and say, oh well, we'll all go home, right.

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Speaker 1: And another another thing they could do is we could

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Speaker 1: us to go in that direction. But we could, we

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Speaker 1: could do it at the time. Well, Morgan explain, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure a lot of weekend I'm sure a lot of

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Speaker 1: people hear the term reconciliation and it doesn't make sense

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Speaker 1: be done through that so called process to avoid having

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Speaker 1: to get sixty votes. Well, what happens is we send

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Speaker 1: a budget over with instructions that they work towards money

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Speaker 1: to reconcile our budget with the Senate budget, and that

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Speaker 1: along a lot faster. The Senate could do that if

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Speaker 1: I think we had about a thirty vote margin. Yep, yep. Well, Scott,

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Speaker 1: I mean your Pennsylvania. You had a close race this

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Speaker 1: last time. I was shocked that people didn't understand just

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Speaker 1: how important you are to the US Congress. But what

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for having me and Morgan on in

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Speaker 1: this great audience that Sean has, and for being Louie Gomer,

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Speaker 1: We got to prosecue of the border. We can't have

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Speaker 1: notice a Stenton All coming from China across the southern

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Speaker 1: single day on overdose. And we know that the border

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Speaker 1: security that the president's talking about, a physical barrier works

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Speaker 1: in the places that it's been tried, whether it's been

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Speaker 1: San Diego and or Israel, whether it's been in this

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Speaker 1: country or other countries. We see the infiltration of people

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Speaker 1: coming across a physical barrier when you have one dropped

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Speaker 1: by ninety or more percent. So when when the liberals

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Speaker 1: say that it doesn't work, I have no idea where

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Speaker 1: they're getting their information. You know, the Vatican has a

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Speaker 1: wall around it, and as you know Louie very well,

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Speaker 1: President former President Obama's new home in Washington, DC has

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Speaker 1: a physical barrier wall offense around it because and you

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Speaker 1: know why that has it, because it works. And you know,

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Speaker 1: quite honestly, I don't understand the tactic of the Democrat.

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Speaker 1: I kind of did understand it initially when when Sue

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Speaker 1: to be Speaker Pelosi said, you don't have the votes,

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Speaker 1: so we're not going to do this. But once we

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Speaker 1: produced the votes, it seemed to me that if she

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Speaker 1: were smart about this tactically, she would say, well, you

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Speaker 1: do this now, bothe the way you want to you

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Speaker 1: do your wall funding or whatever, and we can all vote.

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Speaker 1: Know all your Republicans will vote yes, and I won't

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Speaker 1: have to deal with it in my speaker's racing. But

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you this president is he is

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Speaker 1: steadfast for the America, America's border security, and he's going

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Speaker 1: to stand firm, I think, on this thing, and sooner

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Speaker 1: or later he's going to crack them and and they're

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Speaker 1: going to have to vote for some kind of border

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Speaker 1: security because this president knows that our country has been

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Speaker 1: left there, has been laid there. Louis, you know this well.

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Speaker 1: I mean we're hearing the reports just this week about

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Speaker 1: people being dropped off by the hundreds at the bus

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Speaker 1: station or what have you. And now they're just in

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Speaker 1: the country. You don't know who they are, you don't

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Speaker 1: know where they're going, you don't know their criminal backgrounds,

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Speaker 1: if they have them or not, you don't know any

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Speaker 1: of that stuff. Here they are. And yeah, and this

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Speaker 1: Pelosi is going to have to deal with that. Well,

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Speaker 1: we've all heard people, and I know it bothers you

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Speaker 1: like it does me. Comparing our desire for a wall

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Speaker 1: where we needed to the iron curtain more hurt people

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Speaker 1: in your district, make that comparison or everybody smart enough

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Speaker 1: to understand one keeps people in, forcing them to totalitarianism,

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Speaker 1: and the other just tries to protect what's there from

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Speaker 1: people that would do damage to it. Well, you do

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Speaker 1: have a few people that say things like that and

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Speaker 1: they don't understand that. Look, we all want to have

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Speaker 1: those people that want to share in the American dream

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Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to come here if they want

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Speaker 1: to come here and work hard. But the first act

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Speaker 1: and sharing that American dream is not to break our laws.

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Speaker 1: And if we want to talk about making our laws

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Speaker 1: better and easier for people to get into the country,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. But first let's secure our borders and make

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Speaker 1: sure that we don't have a flood coming across the

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Speaker 1: border of people that we don't want, people that Scott said,

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Speaker 1: who are bringing drugs, who are doing illegal trafficking, bringing

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Speaker 1: folks across for forced labor or sex slaves, etc. It's

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Speaker 1: just not right, and we've got to do this, and

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Speaker 1: the president, even if we don't get it done and

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Speaker 1: get the government moving forward with the money in the

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Speaker 1: budget for the wall, the president has the veto power.

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Speaker 1: So if the Democrats think that somehow next week it's

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Speaker 1: going to change things. It's not because the president has

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Speaker 1: the veto power and the House will not override the president.

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Speaker 1: On Walman, Well, we just got a minute, but let's

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Speaker 1: take a question from Glenn and san Antonio. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Sean Nity Show. You're on with Louie Gomert, Morgan

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Speaker 1: Griffith and Scott Perry. Good after, and gentlemen, I'm just

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Speaker 1: a little confused on the bill that we passed in

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Speaker 1: the Congress last week and then it moved over the

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Speaker 1: Senate and the Senate voted to move that bill forward,

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Speaker 1: which had the funding for the wall as well as disaster. Really, Senate,

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Speaker 1: it is that bill that the House bill? Is it

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Speaker 1: dead when the new Congress is sworn in January the third,

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Speaker 1: or is it still alive where the Senate can still

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Speaker 1: vote on it. No, it's it's dead. Once you go

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Speaker 1: to a new Congress, all bills from the previous Congress

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Speaker 1: are then dead. So we'd have to start over. But

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Speaker 1: the Democrats have to understand they still got to get

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Speaker 1: something that's agreeable to the President because he will veto

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Speaker 1: and we will support his veto if they don't have

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Speaker 1: the wall money in there, and they would have to

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Speaker 1: get a lot of Republicans in order to override the veto,

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Speaker 1: and I just don't think they would have those votes. Well, folks, Morgan, Scott,

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Speaker 1: can y'all hang on through the break? All right, We'll

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Speaker 1: be right back with more of the Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: Call in eight hundred nine four one seven, three two six,

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Speaker 1: Louie Gomert with members of Congress Morgan Griffith and Scott Perry.

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Speaker 1: Morgan's a little quieter. Scott and I get out there

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty loudly sometimes expressing our position. But Morgan, I

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Speaker 1: wanted people to hear you. I mean, as smart as

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Speaker 1: you are and as principals as you are. What do

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Speaker 1: you think where we just got a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 1: where do you think we should go? Now? As Republicans

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Speaker 1: going into the minority over the wall and the spending

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Speaker 1: well on the wall to we have to back up

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Speaker 1: the President when he vetos the Democrat bill if it

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Speaker 1: doesn't have wall money in it, and we'll have to.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to back up the President's veto, and I

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Speaker 1: think we can do that. Other than that, we will

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Speaker 1: have to make sure that we try to hold them

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Speaker 1: in check and aggressively pursue, you know, the bills that

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Speaker 1: they're putting forward, and try to put friendly amendments on

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Speaker 1: it and try to make them better. And then just

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Speaker 1: fight like crazy and get the word out to the

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Speaker 1: American people, because that's our job as the loyal opposition.

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Speaker 1: Recognizing they won the election, we're not going to try

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Speaker 1: to turn it over as they've done with the presidential election. Well,

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Speaker 1: we also have a job to do for our constituents.

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Speaker 1: And our constituents said, don't let them do these things

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Speaker 1: to America. That's right. And I remember when we went

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Speaker 1: into the minority. You guys, thank goodness we're not there then,

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Speaker 1: but it was a miserable time. But then our minority

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Speaker 1: leader named Bayner kept using expressions like let's just keep

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Speaker 1: feeding them rope and eventually they'll hang themselves figuratively speaking,

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Speaker 1: and it just absolutely wasn't true. As I got up

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Speaker 1: in conference once and said, look, you keep saying we

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Speaker 1: need to feed them rope and they'll hang. They're using

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Speaker 1: it to hog tie us. It's time we stand up, Scott.

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Speaker 1: What do you think we ought to be doing as

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Speaker 1: we go into the minority next week. Well, Louie, thank you,

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Speaker 1: and of course we wish we weren't in the minority,

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Speaker 1: but there's a reason for all that. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: we have to be the loyal opposition. And maybe people

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Speaker 1: don't understand that, but that means we got to be

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Speaker 1: loyal to our country, loyal to our bosses that elected us,

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Speaker 1: but opposed to the bad things that we know the

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Speaker 1: Democrats are going to try and implement and force on

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Speaker 1: the American people. And I think one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing things we can do in this current circumstance, like

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Speaker 1: you said, is like Morgan said, is sustained a presidential veto.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing we can do is go out

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Speaker 1: and communicate about why this is important. And when people

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Speaker 1: say stuff like, well, you know, this has wasted money,

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Speaker 1: walls don't work, it's too expensive, so on and so forth.

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Speaker 1: I know, for Pennsylvania, which is about twelve and a

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Speaker 1: half thirteen million people, we spend about a billion three

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Speaker 1: a year on illegal immigration and hospitalization, education, incarceration, those

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Speaker 1: type of things. If you take the population of the

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Speaker 1: United States three hundred twenty million people divide, we're going

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Speaker 1: to have to cut off. Now, y'all please come back.

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Speaker 1: Scott and Morgan where it will be right back with

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. Here references to an immoral wall. We

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Speaker 1: have heard wall demonized, and yet I read yesterday the

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Speaker 1: President Obama and his new half has constructed a ten

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Speaker 1: foot wall around his property. Now, either the walls work

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Speaker 1: or they don't. And if we're gonna have Democrats continue

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Speaker 1: to say they don't work, then you need to stand

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Speaker 1: up and say, mister Obama, tear down your wall. I

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Speaker 1: yeel back, all right, this is the Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: This Louis Goldman, And yes, that was me on the

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Speaker 1: House floor and in fact, on the debate over the

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Speaker 1: spending bill that had the wall money in it. I

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Speaker 1: heard one time too many about an immoral wall. So

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Speaker 1: I walked over to Rodney Freelandising who was managing the

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Speaker 1: time on the spending bill, and said, Rodney, you got

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds you could give me to address this, and

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Speaker 1: he's I'll give you two minutes, and now I just

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Speaker 1: need thirty seconds. But anyway, yeah, the hypocrisy of these

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Speaker 1: people to have walls around their own property and then

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Speaker 1: to say they don't work, well, you need to tear

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Speaker 1: down your wall. Now I'm thrilled. I've got a long

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Speaker 1: time friend that I've had this maximum respect for as

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Speaker 1: an economist and as an American. Of course. He had

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Speaker 1: been with the Wall Street Journal and is now a

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Speaker 1: Distinguished Visiting Fellow Project for Economic Growth at the Heritage Foundation.

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Speaker 1: He was an adviser to Donald Trump regarding the economy,

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Speaker 1: and he's got a brand new book out with his

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Speaker 1: dear friend in mine, Arthur Laugher, just another economic genius

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Speaker 1: called trump Bonomics, inside the America First plan to revive

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Speaker 1: our economy. I love it. And Stephen Moore, I am

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Speaker 1: thrilled to have you on the Sean Hannity Show. Welcome hiks.

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Speaker 1: Really well, look, I didn't know you had a second profession,

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Speaker 1: but you're doing a great job. And I love that

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Speaker 1: that clip from the speech you gave up the house floor,

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Speaker 1: I was I was laughing out loud. I heard you

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Speaker 1: say that that was well done. You know my my

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Speaker 1: my mom, who was a very wise woman. You say,

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Speaker 1: you know the old saying that big walls make good neighbors. Yeah, yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: and actually Robert Frost had that similar sentiment. Yep yep uh,

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Speaker 1: And there is something to that. And you know, sure,

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Speaker 1: being the economic guru, you are and anytime you and

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Speaker 1: laugh for collaborate on anything, it sure gets my attention

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Speaker 1: because you guys are just wonderful. Uh And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever told you, but you

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Speaker 1: know I gotta tell you, uh we laughing. And I

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Speaker 1: had so much fun writing this book because you know,

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Speaker 1: we just had a great time working with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: And this is a guy people always asked me, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, there were so many great people running for president,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Republican side, you know, including your your

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Speaker 1: fellow Texan Ted Cruz Bush and you know, uh, just

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Speaker 1: you know, all of these great, great people running to

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Speaker 1: Ben Carson so on, and people say, you know, why

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Speaker 1: did you why did you guys get behind Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: so early? Because it was very controversial when we back trumping.

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Speaker 1: And it's because two reasons. One is, he just had

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Speaker 1: the look of a winner. You know, that guy's just

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Speaker 1: a winner. And number one and number two, you know,

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Speaker 1: he understands economics in a in a He's got the

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Speaker 1: kind of New York Street smarts that you need to

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Speaker 1: understand how the world works. That you know, with no

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Speaker 1: disrespect you or you're one of my best friends. And

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Speaker 1: Alf GISs sometimes the politicians don't really understand how the

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Speaker 1: real world works well. And I love his businessman mentality

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Speaker 1: to Washington. That's what trump Innomics is. It's bringing business

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Speaker 1: sensibilities to Washington. And when you do that, boy doesn't work. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And this is a god that knows how to negotiation

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Speaker 1: eight as well, And it has driven me crazy over

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Speaker 1: the years to have Republicans just roll over and get

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Speaker 1: such bad deals. And I was told by a US

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Speaker 1: trade rep at the time that look, you know, you

851
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: got to understand that we're the biggest economy in the world,

852
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: so that when we negotiate a deal that's better for

853
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: another country than it is ours, since we're the biggest

854
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: economy in the end, it actually inus more to our

855
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: benefit than anybody else. And I'm going to know if

856
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,919
Speaker 1: it's a bad deal for us, it's a bad deal

857
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: for us. And I couldn't understand that mentality. And that's

858
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: as smart as you and Laugher are. I mean, you

859
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 1: get it. And this president knows how to negotiate. And

860
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, I've never been a big fan of tariffs,

861
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: but every time I hear him mentioned tariffs, it's clear

862
00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: what it is. A bargaining chip and he said, now

863
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: we're going to do this there. But now, of course,

864
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: if you work out a deal with us, then we

865
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: don't have to do the tariffs. And so, even though

866
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: I've never been a big tariff fan, uh, it just

867
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: is great to have a president that knows how to negotiate.

868
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: It's wonderful. And by the way, one of the biggest

869
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: compliments I've ever had is when you told me, Louis,

870
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: I quote you, and I don't always give you. I

871
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna say. I'll say it before you do,

872
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: say it, before you do that. I want to make

873
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: sure I get this right, that that the corporate income

874
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: tax in America is a tariff on our own goods

875
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: and services. That's it is. The reason is so funny

876
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: that will you see that is when Larry Cutlo and

877
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: I and our laugher sat down for the first time

878
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, which was about three years ago, and

879
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: we showed him this chart at the chold Look, you

880
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: know Donald, we call him Donald back then, we now

881
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: called mister president, right, you know we you know you've

882
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: seen that chart. You were forty percent and the rest

883
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: of the world's at twenty percent, you know, and you

884
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: called the twenty percent. I also called the twenty percent

885
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: headstar program. Every country we can deal with it. You know.

886
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: We showed that the Trump and he got it instantly,

887
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: but especially when I said, this is like a tariff

888
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: in our own services. He got that instantly. But he

889
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: taught me one thing. You know, I'm supposed to be

890
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: the economist who understands and the stuff. He's the businessman.

891
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: But I remember, you know, when he was talking about

892
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: trade and Larry and I said, well, we can't work

893
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 1: for you because we're for trade, free trade. He said,

894
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: he said, look, I'm a free trade person too, but

895
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 1: it's got to be fair. It's got to be a

896
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: level of playing field. And he said, go look at

897
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: the evidence. And I actually started looking at the numbers.

898
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: And that man taught me something, which is, you know

899
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: this now, I think too all these other countries that

900
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: we have trade deals, but they have much higher terrists

901
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: than we do. In a minute, I thought that we

902
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: had a level playing field. There's no level playing field

903
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, exactly. And then we do these trade

904
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: deals and yes, they take some of our products. But

905
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: before Trump, it was never completely fair to the United States.

906
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 1: We were opening more to their products. Than they were

907
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: two hours. It just it didn't make sense. So I

908
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: love having you do say. The last line of perversionally,

909
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: the last line of our book is wouldn't it be

910
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: ironic that if this president and everybody says in a

911
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: trade protectionist and I think this is going to turn

912
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: out to be true, I'm gonna say it, uh, you know,

913
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: to you on this show in front of your fifteen

914
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 1: million did I believe me? I believe that Donald Trump

915
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: is going to win on trade and we're going to

916
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: end up with freer trade, not not you know, more

917
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: of trade restrictions, freer trades because these other countries are

918
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: going to open up their markets to US and we

919
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: have a level playing field with lower terrorists, which is

920
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: what Steve Forbes wants, what Steve Barr wants, with Larry

921
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: Coblo wants, what our laughter wants, what you want, and

922
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: what Donald Trump wants. Sure, we just want we want

923
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: to you know, a fear of game, and it's not

924
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, we remember Trump used to say the rest

925
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: of the world laughing behind our back, and they were

926
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: laughing at us anymore. Well, and you look at these

927
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: climate accords. You know, you hear people from other countries

928
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: say this simply will not work unless the United States

929
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: is a party, And I'm going, yeah, it doesn't work

930
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: because we're the only ones going to pay everybody else.

931
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: How smart is that? Well, so tell us what you

932
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: met way on this is that you know this one,

933
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: But I've bet a lot of your listeners don't because

934
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: nobody in the media really reports it. Do you know

935
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 1: what country louis last year, of all the industrialized countries,

936
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: lowered its carbon emissions the most I do, and it

937
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: is astounding for those who just watch the n n

938
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: or MSNBC. Please tell them, United States of America, Yep,

939
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 1: we've done it. Did that happen? Wait a minute, work.

940
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: We're not part of all these stupid treaties. We don't

941
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: have a cap and trade system because that's what's going

942
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: on in Texas with your shale oil and gas revolution. Sure,

943
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: but we're doing it cleanly. And that's what people can't get.

944
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: They just don't understand. But on the other hand, if

945
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: you're a country with a struggling economy, then the last

946
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: place you put a priority is on the environment. Here

947
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: in the United States, we want clean air, we want

948
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: clean water, we want things clean. And if the economy

949
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: is going strongly enough, then we can spend money doing that.

950
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: But what do you when you use that, You and

951
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: Arthur Laffer use the title trumponomics. Can you give us

952
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: a shorthand definition of that. Yeah, it's basically bringing business principles,

953
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: putting America first, American businesses first, American workers first, and

954
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: making sure that everything that we do in Washington is

955
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: oriented towards making America number one. And gee, what a

956
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: concept that we should put our interests above the interests

957
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: of France or Canada, or Australia, or China or India.

958
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: But that's what a president should do, and he does

959
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: it in every decision he makes. And I gotta tell you, Louis,

960
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: I did spend a good bit of time with him

961
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: during the campaign. Yea. Every time we would suggest a

962
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: policy to him, you know, whether on regulation or taxes

963
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: or you know, I say, how will this affect working

964
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: class Americans? This is and he I say, Look, the

965
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: rich can take care of themselves. I want to make

966
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: sure these policies are helping working class Americans. And by

967
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: the way, I just finished my latest column. This twenty

968
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: eighteen was the Year of the American worker. American workers

969
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: have the best. We have the best job market today.

970
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: We've had it fifty years. It's incredible. And he's supposed

971
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: to be this mean, callous guy that could care less

972
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: about it. But I mean I saw him in the

973
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: Oval office with the daughter of one of my deceased constituents, Carry.

974
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: We passed Carry's Law that just says, you got you.

975
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: If you have a multi line phone, you cannot require

976
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: are any numbers preceding nine one one. And this little

977
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: girl had tried to call nine one one and never

978
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: could get through because she didn't know you had to

979
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: have a seven before it. So we got that done,

980
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: and the President was so sweet to this little girl,

981
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: just absolutely precious. People haven't seen that, but he was

982
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: like a father that has had daughters, you know, and anyway,

983
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: they don't see that side of him. But heck, I mentioned,

984
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'd supported Ted in the primary, I'd endorsed

985
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: him way early when it things just got going. I'd

986
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: worked with him, new him. But in September twenty sixteen

987
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: and a one on one with now President Trump, I

988
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: had said, uh, you know, I know, historically but the

989
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: presidents that were said to have been the smartest the best,

990
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff they didn't do well. And

991
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: I ran through, you know, and I said, if you

992
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: look at the ones that were said to have been crazy,

993
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: whether Teddy Roosevelt. Oh my gosh, he's sending all these

994
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: navy ships around. What's he going to do next? I said,

995
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: you go back to Saturday Night Live when Ronald Reagan's present.

996
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: They have him walking around with his finger out going

997
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: where's the red button? I wouldn't launch some some missiles?

998
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: And I said, it absolutely helps. If people in other

999
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: countries with whom you negotiate think you're a little crazy.

1000
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: He said, well, they say I'm a little I'm very crazy.

1001
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: I said, that's why I think you've got a chance

1002
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: to be one of the best presidents we've ever had

1003
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: when it comes to foreign diplomacy. And it really does

1004
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: make a difference in these deals he's doing. He's getting

1005
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: good deals for America. Well, I agree with all of that.

1006
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: I saw those kinds of instances too, where the way

1007
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: he treats people, you know, you know, I always say,

1008
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, most politicians are wonderful people in public and

1009
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: jerks in private. Not you, but sure Donald Trump is

1010
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: the value. Sometimes he can be a jerk Republic and

1011
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: in the private he is the sweetest person he ever meet.

1012
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: He is he's generous, he is charming, he's attentive. He

1013
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: couldn't be nicer. I mean, I you know, I walked

1014
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,919
Speaker 1: after that first meeting with him for an hour because

1015
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: I went into that meeting. We talked about this in

1016
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: the book, and the first chapter is called Meeting Trump

1017
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: and Larry and I walked into that meeting with him

1018
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: back in late twenty fifteen, very skeptical. I had a

1019
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,959
Speaker 1: negative impression of Donald Trump when I walked in that room,

1020
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: and after staying an hour with him, I'm like, oh

1021
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: my god, I have stars in my eyes. I said,

1022
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: this guy is the most amazing communicator. And you know,

1023
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: the only other person I really met my lifetime who

1024
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: had that effect on me was Ronald Reagan. Curiously, well

1025
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: that's high prize. Look, we got to take a break.

1026
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: Hang on with us, Stephen Moore and we in the

1027
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: Sean Handy Show. Will be right back. I'm Louie Gomert.

1028
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: This is the Sean Handity Show, Louie gomer sitting in

1029
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: with my dear friends Stephen Moore. Stay. We just have

1030
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: laughed by Listen, if we put a wall where we

1031
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: need it, we totally secure the border. As the President

1032
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: wants to do. What happens to the Mexico economy that's

1033
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: so overridden with drug cartel corruption. Now, hey, because it

1034
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: helps the economy of Mexico and the United States. I

1035
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: am very pro immigrant, but immigrants have to come into

1036
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: this country legally, lawfully, and now US still Donald Trump

1037
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: to fill the wall, make sure it has gates so

1038
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: people come in legally. We can't reform our immigration system,

1039
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: which hasn't been reformed in thirty years, until we get

1040
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: the border secure. It's so obvious. That is so true.

1041
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they're talking about amnesty and you have the

1042
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 1: border of trumb and say every time you guys even

1043
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: mentioned an amnesty legalization, it just sucks people in. And

1044
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier in the show that makes it kind

1045
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: of like an attractive nuisance where you don't put up

1046
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: a fence around the pool and kid falls in, you're liable,

1047
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: you pay them. So it seemed like the best thing

1048
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 1: we could do from Mexico, doesn't it It does? I mean,

1049
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: we want you know, I'm all in favor of open

1050
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: trade and migration back and forth, but it has to

1051
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: be lawful. We have to regularly, we have to know

1052
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: who's coming so we know that it's not from some

1053
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: terrorists and drug runners into our country. Will be right back,

1054
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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. This is the Sean Hannity Show. This

1055
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: is Louis Goldmer sitting in from my dear friend Sean

1056
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: and Uh, I'd tell you in the first hour, ID

1057
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: quoted uh John Adams when he was President of the

1058
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: United States seventeen ninety seven, saying that you know, this

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01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: Constitution was intended for a moral and religious people. It

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Speaker 1: is wholly inadequate for the government in any other And Adams,

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01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: as a believer, he felt like the best thing, the

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Speaker 1: best chance for America's future was to be biblically based.

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Speaker 1: And it is such a treat from to have our

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Speaker 1: next guests on. I just think the world. I've been

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01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: back in the eighties, my wife and I were directors

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Speaker 1: of a college department, teaching in a college Sunday school department,

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: and some of the college students said, hey, you got

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01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: to hear this guy, and gave what back then was

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Speaker 1: just a cassette tape, and it was Stephen Curtis Chapman,

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Speaker 1: I'm going I love this guy. I loved his music.

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Speaker 1: He writes my heart, he sings my heart, and then

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Speaker 1: I guess. March of twenty seventeen, he came out with

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Speaker 1: a book Between Heaven and the Real World, and he's

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Speaker 1: had songs that reflect that, but especially Heaven in the

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Speaker 1: Real World. And I was slow, I didn't get the

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Speaker 1: words enough. But I recently read that and just really

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Speaker 1: thrilled to have on the Sean Hannity Show. Stephen Curtis

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Speaker 1: Chapman the most awarded Christian and I know it makes

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Speaker 1: him feel like he's vale and humility requirements, but he

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01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: is the most awarded artist in Christian music history. Fifty

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Speaker 1: eight Gospel Music Association double Awards, five Grammys, American Music

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Speaker 1: A War forty eight number one singles, Uh sell over

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Speaker 1: eleven me and I'll go on and on, but just

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Speaker 1: because it makes him uncomfortable, I'll stop there. But Steven,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the Sean Edity Show. It is such a

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Speaker 1: treat to have you on, and thank you for all

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Speaker 1: you do for really the soul of America. You are

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Speaker 1: quite the minister, and you do write and sing the

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Speaker 1: hearts of so many Americans. It's great having you on now.

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Speaker 1: I think Mary Beth, your wife, is on with us,

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Speaker 1: and she is a New York Times bestselling author choosing

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Speaker 1: to see all three letters of C capitalized speaker, wife

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Speaker 1: of Stephen Curtis Chapman. But boy, Stephen, when you wrote

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Speaker 1: the book, you know some people write a book so

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: they can leave out the problem parts. Man, you got it.

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Speaker 1: You put it all in there. You just went all out.

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Speaker 1: And Mary Beth, I know, Cathy, if I tried to

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Speaker 1: write all of that, you'd go, no, you're leaving that out.

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Speaker 1: But it's all there. It's just who you are. You're

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Speaker 1: totally upfront. And I would totally recommend what an incredible

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01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: testimonial that you've walked. I mean, you walk the walk

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Speaker 1: and you don't just talk it, you walk it. So

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Speaker 1: welcome now, Louis, thank you brother. You know how much

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01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: I and the old Chapman Plan love and appreciate you

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01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: and your friendship through the years and your leadership. And well,

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Speaker 1: and let me tell the people listening, Uh, I've never

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01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: talked to Stephen or Mary Beth or Emily about politics ever.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're brothers and sisters, and I have no

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Speaker 1: idea how they've ever voted. I just know what an

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Speaker 1: impact for good that they are on America. And man,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you guys have had an incredible year.

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Speaker 1: Marybeth you I was reading your blog post about the year.

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Speaker 1: It was an incredible years. I'm extremely blessed is the word.

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01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: I just have an incredible family. God's been gracious to

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01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,440
Speaker 1: us through the through the good and the incredibly difficult

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01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: seasons that our family have had. And reflecting back on

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01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 1: this past year, UM couldn't be more more proud wife, mother,

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01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: and now grammy to six beautiful gram babies, and um, yes,

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Speaker 1: God just continues to make new things in the Chapman family.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm very, very very blessed. Well, Stephen, you

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Speaker 1: still got a whole lot of concerts under your sec

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01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: solo tour. Uh, this is you without Caleb, without Will,

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Speaker 1: without Tellian, this is just Steven himself. That's right. Well,

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Speaker 1: we I started this and you mentioned the book, and

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Speaker 1: I will just real quickly say this about it. I

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01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: have had a lot of folks, you know, say that

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01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,440
Speaker 1: they have appreciated the just the candor and the honesty,

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Speaker 1: and really you mentioned Mary Beth's book, which is which

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01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: I'm going to go on record is far far better,

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01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: is the better book by far, but but she is.

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01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: It really was a beautiful and honest story that she

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01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 1: told of her life and our journey and and her

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01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 1: you know, just perspective of even of course, the many

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01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: people know of you know, the ten years ago our

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01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,839
Speaker 1: loss of our youngest daughter, and then but her whole story,

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01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: and people were so impacted by her honesty. And I

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01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: heard that over and over again in my concerts, and

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01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: so as I sat down to tell my story in

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: the book you mentioned Between Heaven and the Real World,

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01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 1: one of my real commitments was it was two h words.

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01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: I felt like that I just I stuck up the

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01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,879
Speaker 1: the top of every page. It was honor and honesty.

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01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: And I felt like, I want to honor all the

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01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: people that God has put in my life, ultimately honoring

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01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 1: God who has been writing the story of my life

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: from the beginning. But also I really want to be honest.

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01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: But the impact that that has, I believe in my life.

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01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: I look at the stories that have impacted my life

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01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: the most, even in scripture, are the stories of you know,

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01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: the honesty. You know. I'm so glad God, as I

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01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 1: often say, didn't edit out a lot of the parts

1152
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: of the stories that we probably wanted to edit out of,

1153
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: you know, King David's life. If I had been King David,

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01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: I would have only wanted the Goliath killing stories in

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01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: there or whatever, you know. But those have encouraged me,

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01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: and so thank you for just your encouragement about my story,

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01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: and that sort of led into me deciding to do

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01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: this solo tour. I've been remembering a lot over the

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Speaker 1: last few years in writing my story and telling my

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Speaker 1: story in my book, and there's just a powerful thing

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01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: that happens when we remember it's important. It's powerful, and

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01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: it keeps us I think, grateful, It keeps us humble

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01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: because we remember where we've come from, but especially keeps

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01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: me hopeful because I remember not only where I've come from,

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01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: but where as a believer, where I believe in our

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: family is held onto the belief of where this story

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01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: is going ultimately, and that's where we find the hope

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01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,799
Speaker 1: that you know has fueled my songs all these years,

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01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: has fueled the work that we do as a family,

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Speaker 1: in the work you know that we do through Show Hope,

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01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: an organization that my wife and I started about sixteen

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01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: years ago now and by God's grace and the support

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01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: of so many thousands of people. Now we've been able

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01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:48,919
Speaker 1: to be a part of miraculous stories of seeing thousands

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01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: of children without families come into families and have a

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01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: home and do some amazing work that we never could

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01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: have even imagined when we started this seventeen eighteen years ago,

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Speaker 1: and we adopted our first of our three adopted daughters.

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Speaker 1: So it's just been an amazing journey, and it's been

1180
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: exciting to still get to you know, strum my guitar

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01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: and writing songs and tell my story and now watch

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01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: the story and the baton being handed off, you know,

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01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: even to our daughter Emily, you know who you mentioned, Yes, well,

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01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: and you know you mentioned in the book. I mean,

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01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: Emily's a little girl and she's that it's amazing she's

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01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: telling you she wants you to adopt. That's got to

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01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: be pretty extraordinary. This past year has really been a

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01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: full circle moment for us. You know, Emily at eleven

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01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: years old, going on a trip to Haiti with her mom,

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01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: coming back and just feeling this deep conviction that there

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01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: are children not only around the world, but even here

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01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: domestically in the US that you know, are going to

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01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: sleep without families, and so for her to have this

1194
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: deep conviction and for it to come to you know,

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01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: fruition that we would then adopt our beautiful daughters from China.

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01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: She would go on to become a Baylor Bear. I'll

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01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: mention that ya go to school and and get a

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01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 1: great education and move off to Ireland, get her masters

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Speaker 1: in theology, come back, have she got married, has her

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01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: beautiful little family. And then this past year we were

1201
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: in the middle of the strategic plan for Show Hope

1202
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: and God just made it really clear that now is

1203
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: the time to kind of have her step into the leadership.

1204
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: We had an amazing executive director before her that really

1205
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: mentored her, and then um, you know, just just pass December,

1206
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: the Batamas passed to her. And so for me to

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01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: see that full circle moment come that here is this

1208
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,839
Speaker 1: eleven year old little girl who have really God planted

1209
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: this in her heart. And now to see um, some

1210
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 1: over sixty two hundred children be affected the work of

1211
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: Show Hope and be adopted into families, It's just an amazing,

1212
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: amazing moment for me. And she's she's the way better

1213
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: version of me. I tell you that, God, Thank God's

1214
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 1: been gracious to give meet a beautiful daughter. Well, yes,

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01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: but of course Jeff Foxworthy, that great Christian philosopher, just yeah,

1216
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: but he said, you know, when his wife got pregnant,

1217
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: he said, he woke up sweating because he realized you can't,

1218
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: as he said, combine stagnant pond water and ross sewage

1219
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: and get avy on water. You know, those jeans come

1220
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: together from somewhere, and you just see it in all

1221
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: three of your children. But is Emily go on, yeah,

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01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: I'm here, Yeah, well, hey, Emily doing well. But it

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: was amazing. Just three days ago, Kathy and I were

1224
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: talking to a couple and they said, all these best

1225
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: friends of ours they're trying to adopt from China and

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01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: they're just having all this trouble because it would be

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01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 1: the second adopted child. And I said, if they approached,

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01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: show hope. And because that's what you've done. And as

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01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: you've said, I didn't realize it was over six thousand

1230
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:12,560
Speaker 1: adopted children that you've helped have happened. It's just amazing.

1231
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: And of course, uh, the song and you mentioned it

1232
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: in your book, but you know it just I've never

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: seen a group ever not moved to tears when they

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01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: hear your song and your words. By the way, I

1235
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: was shocked in your book when you said, you know,

1236
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: you just didn't have a good voice. Now I knew

1237
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: Herbie had a good voice, and I was so glad

1238
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: you had him in in the album with in your

1239
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: dad in Deep Roots. And by the way, I've made

1240
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: you a lot of enemies in my neighborhood because I

1241
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: normally have that Deep Roots album playing really loud when

1242
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm working in the backyard, and I think people in

1243
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: my neighborhood are sick of you. Steven. Sorry about that,

1244
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 1: but I just loved that it's so uplifting and you

1245
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: were saying that is you going back to your roots,

1246
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, the Paduca Kentucky kid with all that and

1247
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: your dad and how your dad had actually given up

1248
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: a music career to actually raise a family, and then

1249
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 1: for you to have been instrumental and made it happen.

1250
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: Of course, Ricky Skaggs and he's on one of your

1251
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: songs on the Deep Roots album. I love that you

1252
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: Ricky sound really good together. But I was blown away

1253
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: when you said, well, you didn't sound good. And then

1254
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: Herbie was a better singer, and then he encouraged you

1255
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: when you had a shot. Guys, that's a loving family.

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01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: That's really amazing. Well, you're you're a great example for

1257
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: Americans and that that's there's a lot of struggling, there's

1258
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: a lot of broken hearts around this country. And your

1259
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: walking testimonial, I never thought i'd see somebody says said recently, Uh,

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01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: they ought to out all the words, our thoughts and

1261
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,440
Speaker 1: prayers are with you more. WHOA, this is getting serious

1262
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: when you are just walking testimonials of the good that's

1263
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: in America. Well, what can people do if they want

1264
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: to get involved and help out with show Hope? Yes, yeah, yeah,

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01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: we would love, We would love for for anybody just

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01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: to become part of the Show Hope story and family. Um.

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Speaker 1: You can go to our website www dot Showhope dot

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Speaker 1: org and find out ways to donate there. We also

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Speaker 1: have care centers in China where we care for about

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Speaker 1: a little over two hundred orphans that have medical UH

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Speaker 1: needs and so we're able to offer care there and

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Speaker 1: there's ways to gather supplies to send to the care

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Speaker 1: centers and stuff like that that can all be found

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Speaker 1: out on our website. UM, and then we just love

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Speaker 1: for people to get connected with the Show Hope story

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Speaker 1: and follow follow along some of the journeys that these

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Speaker 1: families are on and some of the kiddos that are

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Speaker 1: coming home. Like Mom mentioned sixty two hundred kids from

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Speaker 1: that we've been able to help through Show Hope Adoption

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Speaker 1: Aid grants, and that represents over sixty countries, including many

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Speaker 1: children here in the United States that we've been able

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Speaker 1: to help sort of reduce that financial barrier that often

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Speaker 1: stands between waiting children and perspective adoptive families. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's awesome. That's well, we got to take a hard

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Speaker 1: break right here. But if y'all just hang on, we'll

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Speaker 1: be right back with more of the Shawn Andy Show.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Steven Curtis, Mary Beth, and Emily Chapman

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Speaker 1: Courts Emily Richards. We'll be right back. This is the

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Speaker 1: Shawan Handy Show. We're visiting with Stephen Curtis Chapman and

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Speaker 1: his wife, Mary Beth, daughter Emily, and we're short on

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Speaker 1: time left, But you guys are such a blessing to

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Speaker 1: so many. Hey, in tough times, where would you direct

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Speaker 1: America other than Showhope dot Org. That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: And Mary Chapman dot Com blog. Oh yes, what do

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Speaker 1: you think, Stephen, Well, you know what we have found

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Speaker 1: in our journey as a family, and many so many

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Speaker 1: of you listening, I know even have prayed for our

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Speaker 1: family and our journey together, particularly the dorney of losing

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Speaker 1: our little girl about ten years ago. And we are

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Speaker 1: a family who has lived and continue to live the

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Speaker 1: reality that the only place where there is hope and

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Speaker 1: light and purpose and peace is in our trust and

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Speaker 1: our faith in God's love, God's grace. And uh, that's

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Speaker 1: obviously we've celebrated that at Christmas. We're thankful that we

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Speaker 1: get to celebrate that God is with us and we

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Speaker 1: are living proof of that. And we hope maybe our

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Speaker 1: work with show Hope, my songs, Mary Beth's work as

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Speaker 1: show Hope in our book and whatever we can say

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Speaker 1: will encourage people to know that God is good and

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Speaker 1: He's with us, and he's and there is a new

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Speaker 1: album coming. I can't wait, sir, I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: you some more of that music. All my neighbors are

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Speaker 1: gonna hate you even more. That's right. Well, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for the blessing you are. People needed to

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Speaker 1: hear that this is the Sean Hannity Show. We'll be

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Speaker 1: right back with some other great guests. Come back with us.

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Speaker 1: This is the Sean Hannity Show. This is Louis Golmbert

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Speaker 1: sitting in for my beloved brother by another mother. Sean Hannity.

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Speaker 1: Just love the guy. What an asset to America he is.

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Speaker 1: And the more you know him, and especially as well

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01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: as I know him, the more you just love the guy. Um. So,

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Speaker 1: we have an amazing guest, and most of you are

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Speaker 1: familiar with Hobby Lobby. He is the SEO of Hobby

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01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: Lobby and helped grow his family business to more than

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Speaker 1: eight hundred stores in forty seven states, approximately thirty two

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Speaker 1: thousand employees. And of course they feel so strongly about

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Speaker 1: their faith that they were willing to take a case

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Speaker 1: whether government was trying to discriminate based upon their Christian

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Speaker 1: beliefs and took it to the Supring Court. And then

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Speaker 1: out of all that he and the family wouldcome inspired.

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Speaker 1: We ought to have a museum to the Bible, and

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Speaker 1: as I understand that there's not one totally dedicated to

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Speaker 1: the Bible. This was a dream, it was a vision,

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Speaker 1: and now in Washington, d C. The Museum of the

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Speaker 1: Bible has been going for over a year. It's extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're a Christian or Orthodox jude

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be either one of these is

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Speaker 1: to really appreciate this. Now, if you are either one

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Speaker 1: of those, you're really going to appreciate. But we have

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Speaker 1: with Steve Green. Steve Green, welcome to the Sean Anity Show,

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Speaker 1: and I'm delighted to have you on to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Of course, hobby lobby people are saying, you know, if

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Speaker 1: there were just a hobby lobby around New York, it

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01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: would do so well. There's not one around there, but

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Speaker 1: that's for another day. Today, tell us about how the

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Speaker 1: Museum of the Bible's first year is gone well. Louie's

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Speaker 1: great to be with you and thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: The Museum Bible has gone exceedingly well for our first year.

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Speaker 1: There's always things you would love to see done better,

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Speaker 1: but for the most part, with having a million visitor

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Speaker 1: having come to the museum, it's done extremely well. We

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Speaker 1: love a lot of the comments that we're getting exceeded

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Speaker 1: our expectations. It's been, you know, the favorite of our

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Speaker 1: family as they've come into toured DC. So really getting

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Speaker 1: some great responses and it's exciting to see the visitor

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Speaker 1: come and enjoy the experience there at the museum. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've read studied the Bible my whole life,

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Speaker 1: and I was blown away with what you have there.

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Speaker 1: And of course there's one area where most people know

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Speaker 1: the Vatican has had more biblical treasures than just about

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Speaker 1: anybody other than Israel itself, and yet somehow you made

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Speaker 1: a deal with the Vatican. They have an area where

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Speaker 1: they provide the exhibits in that's the case, that is,

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Speaker 1: and what's unique about the museum is that it really

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Speaker 1: is a collaborative effort. There are items within the museum

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Speaker 1: that you know from our own collection, but there's over

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Speaker 1: forty individuals and institutions that have items on display within

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Speaker 1: the muse zm have traveling exhibits that will come and

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Speaker 1: go as well, but the Vatican being one of those

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Speaker 1: is we had a temporary exhibit at the Vatican back

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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen and again in both two thousand. That

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Speaker 1: was before you had the museum. Even that was before

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Speaker 1: the museum, that's right. And then the Israel Antiquity Authority

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Speaker 1: as well has a space within the museum. They anything

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Speaker 1: that's dug up in Israel as owned by the Israel

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Speaker 1: Antiquity Authority. They've got over two million artifacts in them

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Speaker 1: in their warehouses. So we have an opportunity the first

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Speaker 1: time out of Israel. This is the first time out

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Speaker 1: of Rome for the Vatican that items have been on

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Speaker 1: permanent display in a museum. And so we're really excited

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Speaker 1: about the collaborative effort of people coming together, people that

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Speaker 1: love this book, that may have different faith traditions, but

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Speaker 1: we're setting aside our differences for a moment, saying here's

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Speaker 1: a book that we all love, and let's come together

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Speaker 1: and celebrate it. There is no book that even comes

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Speaker 1: close to being quoted a fraction as much as the

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Speaker 1: Bible in the Congressional record. But what made me think

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Speaker 1: about you, Steve As? I had a dear friend that said, oh,

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Speaker 1: he was excited. He was going to come to Washington,

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Speaker 1: wanted to hit the Smithsonian and I have any other recommendation.

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Speaker 1: I said, you got to hit the Museum of the Bible.

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Speaker 1: And he said there's a museum of the Bible. Going

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Speaker 1: Oh my yes, And so that's what I thought, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm sean bless his Soulie's let me

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01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: host his show. I need to get Steve on there

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Speaker 1: to tell people this is an extraordinary museum. Believer or nonbeliever,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. This is such an important place to visit.

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Speaker 1: And just the property you got, that whole blot that

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Speaker 1: came available that you guys were able to you're part

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Speaker 1: of basically the mall a couple of blocks behind that

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Speaker 1: was incredible. Yeah, it re really just feel like that

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Speaker 1: our faith caused us to believe that God had gone

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Speaker 1: before us and that property became available. We had been

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01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: looking for for a while there in DC and this

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01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 1: property came up on the market. It's two blocks from

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Speaker 1: the are In Space Museum. There is a metro stop

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Speaker 1: that comes up in the block where the entrance is.

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01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: So a location of that size since we were looking,

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Speaker 1: I don't think has come up since we acquired it.

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01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: So it really was a special location and we're very

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Speaker 1: excited that we were able to find one that close

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Speaker 1: to the mall. Well, and I know and appreciate your faith,

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01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: but I also love what a preacher in Denton, Texas says.

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01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: He says, just because God's in control doesn't mean he

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Speaker 1: wants us to lean on our shovel and pray for all.

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01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: And the Green family used all the instruments that with

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Speaker 1: which they've been blessed and has really made a difference.

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01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,799
Speaker 1: And I just want to thank you for that and

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Speaker 1: encourage people check out the Museum of the Bible. It's

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Speaker 1: something you'll never ever forget. Is there a website people

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01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: can go see to prepare for their visit. They can

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Speaker 1: It's simply just Museum of the Bible dot org and

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01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: get information there, get tickets to get into the museum.

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01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: And we you know, we we engage some of the

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01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 1: leading design firms around the country to help them build

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01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 1: this out. Oh it's an incredible building, Just incredible what

1427
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: you've done. And you knocked out every other floor so

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01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 1: that there's plenty of room, you don't feel squashed, and

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01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: it's just really, this guy's the limit amazing place. Well, Steve,

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01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: I just had to get you on just so that

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01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: anybody out there was not aware. The fifteen million or

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01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: so listening, you got to know this is a place

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01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: to visit. You will be sorely affected for the good.

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01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: And even though you may go once or twice, exhibits

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Speaker 1: changed constantly. You can't go too many times and learn

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01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:15,759
Speaker 1: something new every time. So Steve Green of Hobby Lobby

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01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,839
Speaker 1: and your chairman actually of the board of the Museum

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01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 1: of the Bible, thank you for what you've done, Thanks

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01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 1: for your faithfulness. You're just an incredible walking monument to

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01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to be. So thank you so much, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Louie, and you keep up the great work yourself.

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01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: You're trying well. Thank you, and folks, we will be

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01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: right back. This is the Sean Hannity Show. And I'm

1444
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 1: Louie Gomert, lucky to be sitting in for my dear

1445
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:49,759
Speaker 1: friend Shawn. We'll be right back. This is the Sean

1446
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: Hannity Show. I'm Louie Gomert sitting in for my friend Sean.

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01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: And we have and I'm not kidding. It sounded like

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Speaker 1: something might be made up, but a friend calling from

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01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: the jungles of Burma or mine Mark. But he is

1450
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: an amazing guy. And I'd heard about him as the

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01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: son of missionaries to Thailand and then found out, Wow

1452
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: he went to Texas a and him like I did. Wow,

1453
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 1: he had an army commitment like I did. Oh, he

1454
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 1: went to the army like I did, except he went

1455
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: Special Forces route and ended up. After he served his army.

1456
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: He had such a heart for people that are oppressed.

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01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 1: He and his wife and his young children went to

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Speaker 1: the Jungles to Burma to help those who are being

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01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: oppressed there, especially the Christian just brutalized. And he not

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Speaker 1: only brought the Gospel to the area, he taught the

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Speaker 1: villagers and is continues to teach them how to defend

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01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: themselves from the military that would come in and burn

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01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: their crops every fall, or just devastate the women and

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Speaker 1: children and pull me in apart. It just the horrific

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01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,440
Speaker 1: suffering that was instigated. He taught him to defend themselves.

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Speaker 1: And so when I met him, turns out he and

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Speaker 1: I were both in the core Cadets, and he was

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Speaker 1: some years after me, but was a commander of the

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01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 1: same brigade that I had been. It was amazing. Yet

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Speaker 1: he went and made something of himself, really making a

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Speaker 1: difference in the world. So for let me warn you.

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Speaker 1: He's talking on a satellite phone from from the Jungles

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Speaker 1: of Burma. Dave you Bank, are you there? Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: God left you Louis. Well, they're millions listening. You have

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01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,719
Speaker 1: gotten a front seat view and not just a seat.

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01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 1: You've been actively involved trying to help Christians protect themselves

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Speaker 1: as as well as other tribal groups that are being oppressed,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Kurds or other. You are asked to come

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Speaker 1: help in Syria or try to strategize. But I was

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Speaker 1: very concerned, and you can tell us firsthanded, firsthand, what

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Speaker 1: what are you seeing happen to Christians? We know that

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Speaker 1: we're the US is helping tremendous number of Muslim refugees.

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Speaker 1: We care about people in the world, but we're seeing

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Speaker 1: that such a smaller percentage of Christians than are located

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Speaker 1: are actually getting help from the UN or the US.

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Speaker 1: What are you seeing happening? Dave Walter? Thanks, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: when when you first started talking, I just thought of

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Speaker 1: what Nisa said in Luke for eighteen, among many things.

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Speaker 1: You can set the capital three to see a press.

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Speaker 1: And we are working with Christians, flum Buddhist, Animists, We

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Speaker 1: work with everybody and try to help them. In terms

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Speaker 1: of Christians, I see greater Freshan. You know where we

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Speaker 1: are here in Burmah, actually the first place the American

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Speaker 1: missionaries ever went in the eighteen hundreds ant and I'm

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Speaker 1: a Antusins, and the first believers were Burmans and then

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Speaker 1: ethnic minorities, and many of the Esthma minnorities, let me

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Speaker 1: the Karens and the Chen who later became our allies

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Speaker 1: in World War Two. Many of them became Christians, and

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Speaker 1: they've been persecuted. The longest civil war in the world

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Speaker 1: is right now, seventy years of civil war in Burmahs,

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Speaker 1: right in the middle of it right now. And so

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Speaker 1: I see greater freshtions here against the travel people and

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Speaker 1: the Christians because they ascribed to the highest God, and

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Speaker 1: they don't They follow rules and laws, but they don't

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Speaker 1: flow down the dictators. So that's what I see here.

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Speaker 1: In Kurdistan and Iraq, where we also take teams, most

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Speaker 1: all the Christians had the lead and none of the plane.

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Speaker 1: Of course they had to plead mobile they were killed

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Speaker 1: or staked out by ISIS, and now it's difficult to

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Speaker 1: even to get back in. And then in Syria, the

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Speaker 1: same thing. I always just in a destroyed church that

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Speaker 1: Christians used to live, and nobody's there in the village.

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Speaker 1: I would you know, it's called Tel Plumber, and all

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Speaker 1: the Christians left. Some Christians are still in Syria, but

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Speaker 1: now they say not only they're remnists of Isis. They're

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Speaker 1: still in Syria, but now the churchs are getting great

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Speaker 1: in Basteria if the US pulls out. So whether it's

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Speaker 1: in Burma or in Iraq or Syria, I see um

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Speaker 1: great prostitution against Christians. And I'm grateful for you, Louis,

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Speaker 1: and for people who pray for these people and also

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Speaker 1: stand with them. Well, and Tom Garrett just had been

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Speaker 1: over there with you, and uh, you know, Dana Roorback

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Speaker 1: or Steve King and I have tried to help. But

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Speaker 1: if somebody wants to help you in what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: what should they do? Well, first, Sir, I think we

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Speaker 1: pray because God knows. That's how each of us can respond.

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Speaker 1: I think, I guess support people like Louis and Dana

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Speaker 1: Robocker and Tom Garrett, who's another one of my heroes

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Speaker 1: with s Seria with us. And then if they want

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Speaker 1: to go to our website it's www dot Free firma

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Speaker 1: Rangers dot org. Then they can see what we do

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Speaker 1: and they can see if they want to help help

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Speaker 1: people here. Well, well, thank you. We're a little short

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Speaker 1: on time, but I just appreciate I know it's the

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Speaker 1: middle of the night over in the jungles of Burma. Dave,

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Speaker 1: but you're an inspiration and you put all your effort

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Speaker 1: and your family. And by the way, folks, don't think

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Speaker 1: there's this. What he's doing doesn't come without cost, human cost.

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Speaker 1: Under constant threat, the Burma government would like to see

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Speaker 1: him dead, his precious wife and children. Testimonials to the

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Speaker 1: people there, We really do care and we're trying to help. Dave.

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Speaker 1: You've made a difference. You make me proud as an American,

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Speaker 1: and I hope people will will visit your website and

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Speaker 1: see what they can do to help. But in the meantime, folks,

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Speaker 1: this is Louis Gomert. I am honored to have a

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Speaker 1: friend like Dave. You bank. Even though there's some at

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Speaker 1: the State Department that think he's crazy. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: so it was Jesus. He was said to be crazy,

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Speaker 1: and yet he was the wisest. But folks, this country's

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Speaker 1: in trouble. But Sean Hannity's is helping, and you can

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Speaker 1: help to care about what is going on around you.

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Speaker 1: Don't just lean on your shovel and pray for a

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Speaker 1: whole Let's get in. Let's make sure that we get

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Speaker 1: people in office that care about the country, but more

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Speaker 1: than anything, care about keeping their words. You come back.

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Speaker 1: This is a Sean Hannity Show. Willie Gomert honored to

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Speaker 1: be sitting in