1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in hour number three Clay 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: with us. We're rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: Want to get to a couple of stories here. I 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: tease CNN maybe getting caught in a fake news report 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: surrounding Aaron Rodgers that they sourced based on a Kentucky 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Derby party over a decade ago. That's legitimate a private 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: conversation at a Kentucky Derby party. I gotta say, I 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: don't know about you, Buck. The idea that I could 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: be talking to a reporter at a private party about 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: any subject under the sun, and then that reporter would 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: treat it as a serious conversation over a decade later 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: and report what I said in that conversation feels to 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: me like a flaw of journalism and general You and 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: I talk as many people do, but we know a 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: lot of media people. I don't feel like I need 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: to say, hey, this is off the record, and you 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: can't say something that I said over a decade ago. 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: Now. 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: The reality is you and I don't sound much different 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: off the air than we would on the air. So 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: somebody saying, oh, you'll never believe what Clay Travis said, 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: or you never believe what Bucks Textan said, Well, I 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: listened to him for three hours every day. It's pretty 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: similar to what they would say live on the radio. 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: But I find this very strange that you could have 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: a conversation with somebody over a decade ago and then decide, Hey, 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to report on that conversation and treat it 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: as if it's breaking news, which is what CNN did 31 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers, rumored vice presidential candidate potentially of RFK Junior. 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: Does this seems strange to you too? 33 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: Of course you see this all the time. Though. The 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: expectation for live journals for left wing journalists is that 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: they will set on fire whatever personal relationships, honor, integrity, 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: they have to advance the cause, their own integrity, their 37 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: relationships with other people. It doesn't matter. All of it 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: is susceptible to I mean, I'll tell you this right now. 39 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: You know, would you trust if The New York Times 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: even said to you, Clay, Hey, Clay, you can speak 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: to us off the record about something really sensitive. I 42 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: wouldn't trust the New York Times reporter with something like that, 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: because they would decide unilaterally, Oh, well, some aspect of 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 2: what he told this we thought was untrue, and so 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: they'll burn the source. They don't care. These people have 46 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: no ethics. 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: I record if I talk to any media member, every 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: single word, both sides, and I've done this before. The 49 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: Washington Post misquoted me several years ago. I posted the 50 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: entire transcript of our forty five minute conversation and said, 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: all of you can go read it, every word from him, 52 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: every word from me. I caught them misquoting me. And also, 53 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: you see how fundamentally dishonest it is when you take 54 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: one or two sentences over a thirty minute conversation with anybody. 55 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: I'd rather just let people read the whole transcript of 56 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: what I said. 57 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: I made the very rookie mistake a long time ago 58 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: of responding I want to this is over, maybe a 59 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: decade ago. Now, responding to Politico requesting comment on some 60 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 2: story not about me, but just you know, you'll quote people. 61 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, political wants to quote me on something 62 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm as a as a conservative political commentator. And what 63 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: I learned is that they go oh, and on this issue, 64 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: we asked right wing lunatic who hates all things including 65 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: you know, puppies, kittens, and America what he thinks about this, 66 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: And then they took like three lines of what I said, 67 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: and they said and you know, end quote by the 68 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: psychopathic right wing maniac who is you know, xenophobic and 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: what it's like. There's no there's no point in talking 70 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: to regime media. This is what I always say, unless 71 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: you're going in you're doing what you're doing with just 72 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: taping every or you're going into battle with them. Straight up, 73 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: there's no point in even dealing with them as another 74 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: person in the media. They're just gonna try to tear 75 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: you down. 76 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: I want to play this though, so they report Aaron 77 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers says Sandy Hook is made up. He basically said 78 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: the same thing that Alex Jones got sued for saying. 79 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: According to CNN. Now, I would point out that Aaron 80 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: Rodgers doesn't have a lot of respect for CNN. This 81 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: is an alleged comment from a Kentucky derby party. It 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if Aaron Rodgers finds out somebody works 83 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: at CNN and just starts giving him a hard time 84 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: because I think at times he can be a jerk, 85 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit brusque. But this directly contradicts what 86 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said in a local television interview right after 87 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: Sandy Hook happened. This was in Wisconsin. Listen to this audio. 88 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: Greg Price shared this. I retweeted the video. This is 89 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: a local Wisconsin television Aaron Rodgers call in talking about 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: Sandy Hook. 91 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: I hope that we can learn from this and look 92 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: for the science more and not ever have something like 93 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 3: this happen, and keep this on our minds because these 94 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: are things that affect all of us directly or intre likely, 95 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: and this needs to be something that we learned from. 96 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you would think if they're going to report 97 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: that he denied that Sandy Hook happened, that they would 98 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: actually do research and say, hey, has he publicly discussed 99 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: Sandy Hook before? Oh, here it is. Maybe this is 100 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: an issue with the reporting. So I just wanted to 101 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: put that out there that is now out there. It 102 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: sounds like CNN fake news got something wrong again. But 103 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: I want to talk about this buck because as we 104 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: went to commercial break, interactive polls, which I would encourage 105 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: you guys to follow oh, I understand some of you 106 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: don't believe any of the polls are correct. At IA 107 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: Polls twenty twenty two, they do a great job of 108 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: collating every pole that comes down the pike and almost 109 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: immediately distilling it, replicating it, and allowing you to read it. 110 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: Michigan Quinnipiac Pole. 111 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is up three points the head against Joe 112 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: Biden in Michigan. Donald Trump. When you put all the 113 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: third party candidates up five points ten percent for RFK Junior, 114 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: four percent for Jill Stein, three percent for Carnell West. 115 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: It remains to be seen how many people will actually 116 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: be on the ballot in Michigan, but in this case, 117 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: third party increases Trump's lead. We've been talking about this 118 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: for months. Democrats are in a tough spot since October 119 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: seventh because they get the vast majority of the vote 120 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: historically from Muslim voters, from people with connections oftentimes to 121 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: Arab countries who live in the United States now, and 122 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: they have traditionally gotten the vast majority of Jewish votes 123 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: Michigan as a battleground state with both a prominent Arab 124 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: and Jewish population. Joe Biden is in a tough spot 125 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: here when it comes to winning the state of Michigan. 126 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: How tough. 127 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer took to the Senate floor earlier today and 128 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: demand that net Yahoo be removed from office and Israel 129 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: have a brand new election to elect new leaders because 130 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: he's unhappy with the way they're responding to October seventh. 131 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: Listen to this audio. 132 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: Prime Minister Netsa Yahu has lost his way by allowing 133 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: his political survival to take the precedence over the best 134 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 4: interests of Israel. He has put himself in coalition with 135 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: far right extremists like Minister Smotrik and Ben Gevere, and 136 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: as a result, he has been too willing to tolerate 137 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: the civilian toll in Gaza. Israel cannot survive if it 138 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: becomes a pariah. As a lifelong supporter of Israel, it 139 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: has become clear to me the Netsa Yahu coalition no 140 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: longer fits the needs of Israel after October seventh. The 141 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: world has changed radically since then, and the Israeli people 142 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: are being stifled right now by a governing vision that. 143 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: Is stuck in the past. I mean, he's exactly wrong 144 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: as well. The Israeli people have rallied around Netsan Yahoo 145 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: because he understands the nature of the threat that they 146 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: are up against and has a long history of being 147 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: willing to do what is necessary to defend the Israeli people. 148 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: It is honestly absurd, borderline delusional to start to have 149 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: conversations right now or to demand governance about a two 150 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: state solution. Put aside the fact that I don't even 151 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: think that that's possible with the current mindset of the Palestinians. 152 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: The West bank of the Gaza strip. I think we've 153 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: seen that. I think we've run that experiment and they 154 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: have failed. But more to the point, this is just 155 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: the Democrats, Clay doing what we said they were going 156 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: to do all along, which is try to have it 157 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: both ways. This is a recurring theme. Democrats to win 158 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: elections have to lie to you. Democrats to win the 159 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: presidency have to pretend they are something other than that 160 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: which they are. Look at Joe Biden, the uniter, the 161 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: cuddly grandpa avuncular. To borrow your word, Clay, I like 162 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: that word. That's a Clay word. They they decide that 163 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: they're going to present him one way and then he 164 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: governs entirely another. They do this all the time. They've governed. 165 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: How with regard to the border wide open border six 166 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: million plus going to be seven million soon if it's 167 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: not already, they're illegals Underbiden. Now they say, oh, we 168 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: need a border security bill. They want to have it 169 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: both ways. On the Israeli Palestinian issue. After the heinous 170 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: attacks of October seventh, the Democrats realize that they're trying 171 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: to straddle different components of their coalition. They want to 172 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: have Jewish Americans think that that the Democrat Party Party 173 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: has their back and they want Muslim Americans to think 174 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party has their back at the same time. 175 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: But on this issue, actually can't have it both ways. 176 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: You have to pick a side. And so what they've 177 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: done is when the heat was really intense after October seventh, politically, 178 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: they pretty much picked the side of Israel. And we 179 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: said it at the time, we said, just give it time. 180 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 2: They're gonna stab them in the back. They're going to 181 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 2: stab them Israeli is in the back, and then Yahoo 182 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: and all the rest, and that's now the pendulum has 183 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: swung to that side of it where they're trying to 184 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: trying to make up for it, and what they've seen 185 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: is that the identity politics and race based identity politics 186 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: coalition of the Democrat Party is inherently in a state 187 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: of constant tumult and fracture. You can't do this, You 188 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: can't actually have oh yeah, we have solidarity with the 189 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 2: Muslim people of the Middle East and solidarity with the 190 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: Jewish people in the Middle East at the same time, 191 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: because those groups won't accept that that's right. 192 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: And this is the root foundational cancer of identity politics, 193 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: which I believe is destroying the fabric of our country 194 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: because it requires you to identify people based on what 195 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: they look like, based on what their gender is, and 196 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: then decide who's in the right and who's in the 197 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: wrong based on identity. So that works when you're when 198 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: you're able to say, oh, you know, who's the worst 199 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: people in the history of the world. 200 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: White men. 201 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: White men have made everything awful in this country. They're 202 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: the reason. Like they're awful, they're racist, they're sexist, their 203 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: massagy like, white men are evil. That is the unifying 204 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: a coda of much of the Democrat Party. Even white 205 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: men who vote Democrat say white men are awful, which 206 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: is a crazy worldview to begin with. But you're judging 207 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: somebody based on their race and their gender, and I 208 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: would just submit, in general, Western civilization actually a pretty 209 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: good thing. White guys in general kind of set the 210 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: table for much of the success and freedoms that we 211 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: enjoy across the world today. Greece and Rome kind of 212 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: decent little little ideas that they might have had there 213 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: about republics, democracy, voting freedom, just tossing it out there. 214 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: But Trump, as a rich white guy, is the great Satan. 215 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: So they can a lie and say, oh, Donald Trump's evil, 216 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's racist, Donald Trump's sexist, he's a venal capitalist. 217 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: We hate him. 218 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: But what happens when you have two parts of the 219 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: identity politics coalition Jewish voters and Muslim voters, and you 220 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: have to pick a side. They can't do it because 221 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: their worldview doesn't allow it. And Buck, this is what 222 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: we've seen on all the college campuses, right. The college 223 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: campuses don't know how to handle the idea that the 224 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: people they see as white, which Jewish people have been like, 225 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: we're not white, we're an ethnic group. No, they see 226 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: you as white. You are the bad guy. Yet you've 227 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: been attacked in a terror attack. They don't know how 228 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: to grapple with it because of identity politics. 229 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: Here's another central issue with the identity politics melt down 230 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: on the left round all of this. It is antithetical 231 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: to the left wing worldview that there could be white 232 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: people who are oppressed, but anybody who has even the 233 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: faintest grasp of history, I mean the faintest grasp understand 234 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: ends that the Jewish people have been oppressed not for 235 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: the last century, but for millennia basically. 236 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: Now remins and thousands of years. 237 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: And so how does that factor in? What does it 238 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: mean if white people can be oppressed and in fact 239 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: have a greater degree of recent oppression the Holocaust and 240 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,599 Speaker 2: what happened World War Two, and a longer duration of oppression, 241 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: as we said, go back to the enslavement of the 242 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: Jewish people by the pharaohs and go back to biblical times. 243 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: What does that mean about this idea that white people 244 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: are the only ones who can be racist? What does 245 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: it mean that white people, or rather that non white 246 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: people can't be racist against white people. Well, clearly doesn't 247 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: really make sense. Clearly doesn't really hold up very long. 248 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: And we got a crazy idea here on this show. 249 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: And I know most of you would subscribe to it. 250 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: I think you should judge people by things that they 251 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: don't get born with. 252 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: I don't think you should judge people based. 253 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: On whether they're good or bad, based on whether they're 254 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: boys or girls, based on whether they're white, Black, Asian, 255 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: or Hispanic. I need to judge people based on what 256 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: they actually do. That flies in the face of the 257 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: Identity Politics Coalition and these numbers out of Michigan that 258 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: I just hit you with Buck Michigan is if they 259 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: can't win Michigan, they lose the race. That to me 260 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: is the underlying principle of why they're making now the 261 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: decision that they have to remove the entire Israeli government 262 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: because they they can't figure out how to finesse this issue. 263 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: If you have guns and valuables in your home, you 264 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: want them in a safe you're not alone and thinking 265 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: that it's the smart thing to do. 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Find 290 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: it on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get 291 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: your podcasts. 292 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're gonna be joined 293 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: by Julie Kelly here in just a few minutes talking 294 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: about the Trump documents case. There is, man, it is 295 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: so many things happening in the legal world. We're trying 296 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: to keep it all squared away and keep the storylines 297 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: all straight here for you. But in this case, there 298 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: will be a there is a motion, and there is 299 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: a desire to get the case dropped effectively or not dropped, 300 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: but have the judge shut it down, dismiss it because 301 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: of selective prosecution. In essence, how is it that we 302 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: are going to prosecute one political candidate, Donald Trump for 303 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: this when we just led another political candidate that he 304 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: is running against for the presidency kind of a big deal. 305 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: Let him go because you know he's old and made mistakes. 306 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: That's a very generous interpretation of those events in Joe 307 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: Biden's favor. Will they be inclined Will judge here Eileen 308 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: Cannon be inclined to do something similar for Donald Trump? 309 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: We shall see. But one thing is for sure, Clay, 310 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: they're going to be having to work overtime to get 311 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 2: any of this federal trial stuff done before the election, 312 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: and there's still plenty of emotions and plenty of decisions 313 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: that have to come down. I talked about this earlier 314 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: in the show. 315 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: We're eleven days away from the New York City case 316 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: supposedly starting. That's really soon. I hear almost no discussion 317 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: about it. Again, this is the Alvin Bragg case. Remember, 318 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: we would be already in the middle of the Judge 319 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: Chuckkin suit if the Supreme Court had not agreed to 320 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: hear the appeals in the Donald Trump related matters. I 321 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: just I don't know what's going to happen here. How 322 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: long does it take to see to jury? Have they 323 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: sent out jury notices? Do we know where this case 324 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: is taking place in terms of physically which courtroom? Is 325 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: it truly going to start on the twenty fifth. I 326 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: haven't heard anybody really lay this out. It seems kind 327 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: of crazy that we're eleven days away. 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Welcome back in 345 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: Clay Travis Sexton Show. We head now down to South Florida. 346 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: Outside of Judge Eileen Cannon's courtroom is our friend Julie Kelly, 347 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: who is in her car because you cannot take cell 348 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: phones with cameras into the courtroom, which is basically every 349 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: cell phone. Now, Julie, we appreciate you going outside of 350 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: the courtroom. It sounds like there's been some fireworks. And 351 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about this right off the top, 352 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: because I saw your tweet and we've talked about it 353 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: a little bit on the show. It sounds like to 354 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: you that Judge Eileen Cannon is potentially expressing some agreement 355 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: with the idea that Trump is being selectively prosecuted for 356 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: classified documents based on what has been determined by Robert 357 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: Hurr in his Special Council report about Joe Biden's own 358 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: classified documents. 359 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 2: Explain, even if it's. 360 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: Not been a direct commentary on that, what you are 361 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: seeing that makes you believe that? 362 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 5: Correct, So it was not a subtle suggestion by Judge 363 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 5: Cannon on numerous occasions asking both the Defense Donald Trump 364 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 5: and his attorney and also Special Council Jacksmith's team about 365 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 5: historical presidents for criminally charging a former president for taking 366 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 5: home classified or national defense information documents, and she raised 367 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 5: the term several times, and she just did it again 368 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 5: this afternoon. That was the morning session. I just came 369 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 5: out the afternoon session is ongoing and calling this, you know, 370 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 5: arbitrarily decided, arbitrarily prosecuted. And so just to back up. 371 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 5: What hearing on today is two motions to dismiss the case. 372 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 5: One based on the unconstitutional vagueness of the Espionage Act, 373 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 5: which represents thirty two counts against Donald Trump, and then 374 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 5: also protections under the Presidential Records Act. As you guys 375 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 5: know and your listeners know, that was how the origin 376 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 5: of this full investigation and then prosecution. I don't think 377 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 5: she's going to dismiss the case on either one, but 378 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 5: the feeling was she was using this hearing to sort 379 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 5: of flesh out how this is so novel and unprecedented, 380 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 5: especially in light of Robert Hurst's report and then of 381 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 5: course his testimony this past Tuesday. So Donald Trump shortly 382 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 5: will be filing a motion to dismiss based on selective 383 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: and vindictive on prosecution. He hasn't yet, but he told 384 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 5: the court last month that that will be what he's doing. 385 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 5: And I'm sure they are going to be pulling comments 386 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 5: and quotes from Robert hurst testimony Tuesday before the House 387 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 5: Judiciary Committee about the wilful retention by Joe Biden, wilful 388 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 5: retention of classified documents, including national defense information, at his 389 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: various residents and pen Biden Center four years knowing that 390 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 5: he had it, sharing it with a ghostwriter, but then 391 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 5: declining to bring charges. So that's going to be the 392 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 5: next big clash I believe in in these proceedings. 393 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean trulye just to a late person. It 394 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: seems like if there is such a thing, if it's 395 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: possible to mount any defense based upon selective prosecution. You 396 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 2: have two guys running for president, both are accused of 397 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: having classified documents that they are not supposed to have. 398 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: Put aside some of the more specific aspects of that 399 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: Trump was president, Biden was not, et cetera. But Biden 400 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: was effectively excused by her in this case because he says, 401 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 2: the guy's old and he didn't mean it. Well, you know, 402 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: Donald Trump didn't mean it either. It just feels like, 403 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: how could they allow this to happen? Right, if you've 404 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: got both presidents, I think that they'd be on such 405 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 2: stronger ground in their minds, at least with this case 406 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: against Trump, if we hadn't just seen that Joe Biden 407 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: had classified in seven different places. 408 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 5: That is exactly right. And it was really interesting to 409 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 5: watch Judge Cannon emphasize and really confront the government to say, well, 410 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 5: your indictment about wilful retention. The date of that is 411 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 5: January twentieth of twenty twenty one. So basically she got 412 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 5: the government Jacksmith's team to concede that, yes, the moment 413 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 5: that a president leaves office and he takes with him 414 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 5: documents that Neyhra, the Archives or DOJ or whoever considers 415 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 5: presidential records classified materials national defense information, the minute he 416 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 5: leaves office, he is wilfully violating the Espionage Act. And 417 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 5: that was really a key moment for me because it 418 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 5: meant you really don't have to prove wilfulness unless you 419 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 5: can demonstrate that while he was still president, he was 420 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 5: hoarding these materials in boxes and telling people to send 421 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 5: them tomorrow ago. So what my takeaway was she was 422 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 5: saying whether Joe Biden knew he was doing it or not, 423 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 5: the fact that when he left office in January of 424 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 5: twenty seventeen, he took with him troll of classified material 425 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 5: that he knew he was not supposed to have. Some 426 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 5: of it was sent to the Pen Biden Center, some 427 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 5: of it was at a rental house in Virginia for 428 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 5: two years, then his home in Delaware in a garage 429 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 5: in an office laying all over the place. It really 430 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 5: kind of distracted or took away from the wilfulness element 431 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 5: of these charges. What the government is saying the minute 432 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 5: you leave office, whether you're president, vice president, whoever, and 433 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 5: you have these materials and boxes, which by the way, 434 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 5: you didn't pack. Of course Tunnald Trump didn't pack them either, 435 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 5: to Joe Biden, and you take them. That represents the 436 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 5: wilful retention of national defense information, and you are violating 437 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 5: the Espionage Act. So I think that sort of tipped 438 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 5: off that that would be part of if when she 439 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 5: is considering and holding a hearing on selective vindictive prosecution, 440 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 5: that that is going to be a key question that 441 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 5: she will want answered. 442 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: Julie, you also dropped what I think is really a 443 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: s significant part of all of these cases, and I 444 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: have not seen it that receive the attention that I 445 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: think it deserves. 446 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: General rule is. 447 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: The Department of Justice doesn't want to step itself into 448 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: a political process, and so they tend to not be 449 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: involved with cases that are occurring in the fall surrounding 450 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: a election, even maybe making the decision to do the 451 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: mar A Lago raid in the summer of twenty twenty two, 452 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: if I remember, because they didn't want to do it 453 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: in the fall. 454 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 2: Okay, just bring that up for this reason. 455 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: Jack Smith and his federal federal prosecutors, according to your reporting, again, 456 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: I think this is a really big deal, they said, oh, 457 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: that Department of Justice rule that we generally ascribed to, 458 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: it only would apply to new indictments. It wouldn't apply 459 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: to actual trials. I read that argument, and it almost 460 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: made my brain want to explore because if you're concerned 461 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: about the political impacts of indictments, the idea that you 462 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: could actually have a trial and that they would try 463 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: and argue, oh no, this would be less significant. We 464 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: just couldn't bring a new indictment in the fall. We 465 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: could have a trial. Even people who are left wing 466 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 1: have to hear that argument and think, boy, this is 467 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: a load of manure. That is even for the jack 468 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: Smith prosecution team, a different level of manure, right. I Mean, 469 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: it's crazy to me that that could be their argument. 470 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: That they made it down in South Florida. 471 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 5: Not only did Jack Smith make this argument, Attorney General 472 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 5: Merrick Garland stated very clearly in an interview a few 473 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 5: months ago that he considers both of these matters the 474 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 5: classified documents case here in Southern Florida the January sixth, 475 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 5: twenty twenty election interference case now on hold in Washington. 476 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 5: He considers both of those matters out of the hands 477 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 5: of the Department of Justice. Are now in the federal 478 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 5: court system. The judges are responsible for setting the trial 479 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 5: dates and handling all the pre trial motions and jury selection. 480 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 5: The DOJ as soon as it got to the judges, 481 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 5: as soon as they started to set trial dates and 482 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 5: pre trial schedules. It now is in the hands of 483 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 5: the courts. So that's what I keep saying. And you guys, 484 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 5: we've talked about this for years now. No one should 485 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 5: be surprised if the Supreme Court comes back and upholds 486 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 5: lower court rulings that Donald Trump is not immune from prosecution, 487 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 5: that he will stand trial in Washington in early September, 488 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 5: late September. We know now that the DOJ will not 489 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 5: stop it. They've already greenlighted it. And we know that 490 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 5: Judge Tanya Chuckkin, if this is put before her late 491 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 5: September early October, she has clearly said that the election 492 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 5: calendar and politics plays no role in her court room. 493 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 5: She's going to pretend none of this is even happening, 494 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 5: so it was not just a stark made by a 495 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 5: course of special Council book Marrick Garland himself, which I 496 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 5: think is why they timed the indictments when they did so. 497 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 5: They brought the classified documents case June, a superseding indictment 498 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 5: in July twenty twenty three, and a few weeks later 499 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 5: August first the January sixth indictment. So they stacked these 500 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 5: up with the timing where it would go in the 501 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 5: hands of the judges. They knew they would be able 502 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 5: this pre trial, the activity headed up to the Supreme 503 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 5: Court on a few questions, and that the DOJ could 504 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 5: then come back and say, oop, sorry, it's out of 505 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 5: our hands when these go to trial. Doesn't matter if 506 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 5: people are voting across the country and Donald Trump is 507 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 5: on trial in Washington or southern Florida. Nothing we can 508 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 5: do about it. 509 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: Folks, It's crazy. Julie Kelly. 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The Buck 554 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: Brief goes in there and let me see, Clay, We've 555 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: got a whole bunch of shows there You're gonna be 556 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: out tomorrow, so I'll be solo with all of you tomorrow. 557 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: Clay is basically just gonna have like a beach day 558 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: with the fam, right, you know that's right. Days off here, 559 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: you know it's not really a thing, and we should. 560 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 2: Days off are good. So I'm gonna take a day 561 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: off next Friday, and you'll be solo so that I 562 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: can be with my fam. 563 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: Technically, you and I are entitled to. I think it's 564 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: a month plus holidays, and we're almost never off. I 565 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: think the only time that you and I are both 566 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: off that is one or seer of us is not 567 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: in his Christmas. So you get basically fifty one weeks 568 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: a year of us and we love our job. But 569 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna beautiful day at the beach and I'm gonna 570 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: throw football and hang out with the family on Friday. 571 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: You'll be out next Friday. 572 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: So you will hopefully take I assume Trump will get 573 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: indicted again, because every day that I'm off, like a Friday, 574 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: he tends to get indicted, so that that probably will 575 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: happen somewhere. 576 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: You can call in from the beach. We'll hear the 577 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: waves in the background and we'll know that Clay's enjoying 578 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: himself there. We'll take some calls here too, Michael in Upstate, 579 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: New York. We're in upstate Michael. 580 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 6: Hi, guys. I'm a veteran, and I know that neither 581 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 6: one of you were ever sent a draft guard, but 582 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 6: I did have one, and my family are historically volunteer Navy. 583 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 6: My grandfather, my father in World War Two, so I 584 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 6: decided to do a list in the Navy for that 585 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 6: was at the end of Vietnam nice so nineteen seventy two, 586 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 6: and I went into the submarine. But I remember a 587 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 6: lot of people running away to Canada, and I'm sure 588 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 6: you guys know that whole story. But my question here is, yeah. 589 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: One of them became president. 590 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. And here's my question for you guys. With all 591 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 6: this transgender stuff going on and all this woke stuff 592 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 6: going on, I think it's public knowledge that enlistments are 593 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 6: way down in the military, all branches, Okay, And the 594 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 6: reason people don't want to enlist is because gen X 595 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 6: and gen Z don't know what anything is about before 596 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 6: they were born. So my question for you is, I 597 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 6: have heard nothing on Fox. I've heard nothing from the 598 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 6: fake media. I've heard no one talk about it in Congress. 599 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 6: But what if we got two wars going on now, 600 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 6: and if this dementia pation gets re elected and we 601 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 6: end up having to send people over there and we 602 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 6: don't have the people. We were given all our ammunition away, 603 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 6: which is a ridiculous thing. But if we send people 604 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 6: and then they have to initiate a draft again, are 605 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 6: they going to send draft guards to women? You know, 606 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 6: strong independent women that don't need men. 607 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: Thank you, yeah, thanks you for you call Michael. 608 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: The first thing they did when Ukraine got invaded was 609 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: pass out guns and say no men eighteen to sixty 610 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: could leave the country. And they started to conscript. That is, 611 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: draft men everywhere. I suspect that biology will become really 612 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: important in the event that we ever have another draft 613 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: in this country. I don't think there are gonna be 614 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: that many women getting drafted and put into foxholes to 615 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: fight battles. 616 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, by suspicion that. 617 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: Biology will come very real again. 618 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: The Obama administration, I think it was commission a study 619 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: of of tree marines in training, and it was one 620 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: was an all male unit and the other was a 621 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: mixed male female unit. And not only were the females, 622 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,959 Speaker 2: specifically going through marine infantry training far behind their male 623 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: peers in every category that could be assessed. The mixed 624 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: unit of men and women was substantially behind again for 625 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: infantry purposes, because that you know, infantry is carrying heavy stuff, 626 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: moving fast, firing guns, you know, dealing with with you know, 627 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: battlefield obstacles, and and and you know, strength, stamina. These 628 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: are the things that make make a really big difference 629 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: on top of training. So yeah, I think that there 630 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: would be only certain jobs that would be open to 631 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 2: women in the military at that point. But you know 632 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 2: who knows. You see that they pulled clay, that they've 633 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 2: changed the West Point motto. I saw that. I didn't 634 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: go to West Point, obviously, but it's discouraging when you 635 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: see that even some of these traditions at places like 636 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 2: West Point. You know, the Communists want to undermine and 637 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: control the military as well, So I don't think that's 638 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 2: any well they want. 639 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 1: They want to treat it teach us that our history 640 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: is illegitimate, and therefore all of our legacy institutions are illegitimate, 641 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: and therefore we should not have the fealty to those 642 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: honor tradition and duty. 643 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't speak to the military recruitment side 644 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: because I never served in the military, but I know 645 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: when the CIA recruited me, they were flooded with applications. 646 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: Side a friend who was in the recruitment process, you 647 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 2: know later on and I bet those applications are way 648 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 2: down and people could ask me, would you join the CIA? 649 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: Would you want to go into the counter terrorism Center 650 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: of the CIA. Now, no, but after nine to eleven 651 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: I wanted to things change.