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Speaker 1: So yeah, how do they ham that stuff up? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: You see. They always told Sammy, who thought these Italian

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Speaker 1: Sammy the Bull chooses the life of crime. Understand how

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Speaker 1: If you do both, well, that's a lot. Sammy the

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Speaker 1: Bull was perfectly will to be violent, and sam of

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Speaker 1: to pay that back. And the Gambino family is not

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Speaker 1: You know what puppies, especially brand new puppies do at nighttime?

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Speaker 1: They whine, they cry, they howl. I guess where our

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Speaker 1: puppy is about fifteen feet away from my bed. I

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Speaker 1: slept all night long and didn't stir. Why I had

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Speaker 1: an EBB sleep on. It's not pills, it's not a

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Speaker 1: new pillow. I put it on my head. It applies precise,

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Speaker 1: continuous cooling to my forehead, keeping me asleep. I go

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Speaker 1: asleep fast and it keeps me asleep. You can sleep

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Speaker 1: like a baby like that. To go get one, go

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Speaker 1: com slash Jesse. Don't forget to use the promo code

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Speaker 1: Jesse that gets you twenty five bucks off. You gotta

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Speaker 1: go back to work. Gambano family doesn't do things for free.

441
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: And Sammy the Bull Gravano digs back in and it

442
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: doesn't take long until he figures out, Look, this is

443
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Speaker 1: really the thing I'm good at. And this is going

444
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Speaker 1: to be my life. Eventually, the mafia in New York

445
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: does something they had not done for twenty years, and

446
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: that's what they call opening the books. That's when they

447
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: allow for new members to be made to be brought

448
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: into the mafia. Why had it been twenty years. The

449
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: mafia often does this when they are under assault from

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Speaker 1: law enforcement. When law enforcement presses them and you start

451
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: getting people defecting, you start getting people testifying against the

452
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: mob from within the mob, they freak out and lock

453
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: the place down and don't let anybody else in for

454
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: a while. Now, that works out fine for a while,

455
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: but eventually your guys get old, your guys die, or

456
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: your guys go to jail, and you got to replenish

457
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: the troops. So they had to do it, and they

458
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: look at this young Sammy the Bull, guy has never

459
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: rat it on anybody, been extremely loyal, and they bring

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Speaker 1: him in. Now it's time to discuss the conditions in

461
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Speaker 1: the Gambino crime family. As Sammy the Bull begins working

462
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: his way up through the ranks, Eventually Carlo Gambino dies

463
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: and this is where things really really went south for

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Speaker 1: the Gambino crime family. A lot of people will see

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Speaker 1: Carlo Gambino made a huge mistaken I don't know how

466
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: you can look at what happened and think anything else,

467
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Speaker 1: But this is what happened. Carlo Gambino, in a roundabout way,

468
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: was related to Paul Castellano. These guys knew each other

469
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Speaker 1: from the old days. They had come up together. Carlo

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Speaker 1: Gambino had a choice to make as he was getting

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Speaker 1: ready to pass on. He could choose Paul Castellano to

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Speaker 1: take over as boss of the family, or he could

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Speaker 1: choose a man. Sorry, if I'm hammering you with too

474
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Speaker 1: many names today, you know, I try to keep it

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Speaker 1: to a minimum. He could choose Castellano, or he could

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Speaker 1: choose a man named Neil Dela Croce. Remember how we've

477
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Speaker 1: talked before, how all criminals, even mafia guys, aren't the same.

478
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: We like to lump them all and that same group

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00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: of they're all a bunch of psycho pathic killers who

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00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: hijacked trucks and loan shark and and rob banks and

481
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: and do credit card fraud and do the and it. No,

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00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: they're just like any other organization. You're good at this,

483
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: you do that. You're good at this, you do that,

484
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: you have a real talent for this. Stick with that.

485
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: Lots of these guys are it's gonna sound really bad.

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Speaker 1: Lots of these guys are relatively nonviolent, at least for

487
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: mafia purposes. They're just really good at scams and making

488
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: money and coming up with a racket, real white color stuff.

489
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Speaker 1: The mafia has humongous profits, and Frankie, that's where most

490
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Speaker 1: of the profits are in white collar crimes, finance crimes,

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Speaker 1: construction rackets. And there are other guys who are just

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Speaker 1: better at violence. Oftentimes that's an IQ thing, maybe it's

493
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: just a personal love thing. There are guys who are

494
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Speaker 1: simply better at walking into a store and taking a

495
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: blackjack to somebody's face until he unloads the cash register

496
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: in your pocket and then agrees to pay you so

497
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: much every month. That takes a different kind of human

498
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: being to do such a thing. There are different guys.

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00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: Castellano was considered to be, and considered himself to be,

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Speaker 1: very much the white caller guy. Neil Dela Croce was

501
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: the guy more prone to violence, and as such commanded

502
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Speaker 1: a bit more respect from some of the gangsters gangsters

503
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: who thought he definitely should have been the one running

504
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: the show and not Paul Castellano. That's a problem. However,

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Speaker 1: it's a problem Paul Castellano probably could have gotten over

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Speaker 1: if Paul Castellano had conducted himself a little differently. Paul

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Speaker 1: Castellano was one of those guys who demanded a lot

508
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Speaker 1: of the money that everybody made, considered to be very greedy,

509
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: very much about himself. And as somebody who has read

510
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: a trillion things on these mafia bosses, I will tell

511
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Speaker 1: you the ones who seemed to last a long time

512
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: share two general characteristics. One, they're very very quiet and

513
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Speaker 1: shun the public eye. Cameras have a hard time even

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Speaker 1: getting a picture of them. That's one. And two they're

515
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Speaker 1: guys who, oh, yeah, they're going to get theirs. But

516
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: there are guys who very much distribute the money brought

517
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Speaker 1: in out to everybody else and make sure everyone around

518
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Speaker 1: them gets rich. There's safety and enriching all the super

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Speaker 1: thugs underneath you. There's a lot of danger in making

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00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: all the super thugs underneath you resent you. But when

521
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: you're in organized crime, you don't only face other criminals

522
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: in that kind of danger, you face the big one.

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Speaker 1: They really fear law enforcement. You need to have gold

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Speaker 1: in your portfolio. You simply do, and I'm not telling

525
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Speaker 1: you to become a pirate and go get a chest

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Speaker 1: full of gold coins and bury it on a deserted

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Speaker 1: island somewhere. You know they have gold iras now right.

528
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Speaker 1: It's an excellent, safe way to make sure the market

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Speaker 1: doesn't wipe out your wealth. Go get one from Gold Alliance.

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Speaker 1: Gold Alliance knows what they're doing. You know how hard

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Speaker 1: it is to get an A plus rating from the

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Speaker 1: Better Business Bureau. Gold Alliance has one. They're waiting by

533
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Speaker 1: the phone as we speak to walk you through it.

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Speaker 1: It is not difficult at all. Just let them handle it.

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Speaker 1: But you have to have some gold in there to

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Speaker 1: protect yourself. Go to gold Alliance dot com slash jesse

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Speaker 1: that's gold Alliance dot com slash jesse, and you can

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Speaker 1: get up to five thousand dollars in gold and silver

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Speaker 1: coins when you sign up. Obviously you know because you

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Speaker 1: listen to my show. The mafia has rules. Some of

541
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: those rules they're real strict about. You can steal from

542
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Speaker 1: any what do you want, and don't steal from other

543
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: mafia guys, or you're gonna die. Don't talk to the cops,

544
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: or you're gonna die. Don't kill the boss, or you're

545
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Speaker 1: gonna die. They're very strict about these, and they really

546
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: generally only have one punishment, as you can tell. And

547
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: then they have rules that are kind of rules and

548
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: kind of not rules. You know what that's like to right,

549
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: You have those rules in your business as well. Granted

550
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: you have a different kind of business than mafia guys,

551
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: but everybody knows the rules the company really means, and

552
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: the rules the company doesn't. I can show up and

553
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: maybe take my mask off to walk down the hall

554
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: for five feet. I can't show up without pants on.

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Speaker 1: There are some rules more strict than others. Hang on

556
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Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Show. This is the Jesse Kelly Show.

557
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: There are rules and then they're rules. One of those

558
00:43:54,960 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: rules with many of the mafia families well is I

559
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: don't know how to describe that. No drugs. Do not

560
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: deal drugs now. I almost burst out laughing even saying that,

561
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: because they all deal drugs, all of them. Don't let

562
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: that godfather see in Fool You where he's offered to

563
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: deal heroin, and oh, we just it's just too gross.

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Speaker 1: It's not for us. We don't. We don't do it

565
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: even the ones who say that out loud, they either

566
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Speaker 1: deal them themselves or they dang well know the capo

567
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: underneath him who's kicking up a lot of money every month,

568
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: isn't making that stealing fur coats in the garment district.

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Speaker 1: They know their guys deal drugs, do they want them to? Not? Necessarily?

570
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Speaker 1: Is the money nice? Really, and this is the drug trade.

571
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Speaker 1: I find it to be really, really fascinating. And it's

572
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: not limited to the Italian mafia. The drug business is

573
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: such a filthy business. People can't stop it though, because

574
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: the money is so good, but the violence and danger

575
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: with it is so high. It's like the peak, the

576
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: absolute peak of criminality. Yes, there's a greatly increased chance

577
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 1: you're going to die or go to prison for a

578
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: long time because of the way America cracks down on

579
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: it and other nations. Now there are some countries you

580
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: get the death penalty for dealing drugs. But there's also

581
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: a chance you're gonna spend some time on a yacht

582
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Speaker 1: with some supermodels before you do it. Just it's one

583
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: of those things. It's so dangerous. People love it and

584
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: they want to do it, but it's dangerous. But I

585
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: mean the buddy's great, but we might die or it

586
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: seems to really affect criminals all over the country and

587
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: the money's so absurd. So you can say, if you're

588
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Speaker 1: podcast Illano, don't deal drugs. Anybody caught dealing drugs is

589
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Speaker 1: going to die. And they did say that they were

590
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Speaker 1: really worried about the prison sentences, very very worried about

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Speaker 1: the prison sentences that come with dealing drugs. It's not

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Speaker 1: like they had a moral objection to them. You can

593
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Speaker 1: say that if you're podcast Illano. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: you're not an idiot. You know where some of that

595
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: money's coming from. That's going up to you. It's getting

596
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: kicked up. You just know. So they can't help themselves.

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Speaker 1: What they're really saying when they pass that rule is

598
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Speaker 1: don't get caught dealing drugs or I'm giving myself the

599
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Speaker 1: ultimate out to have you killed. Don't deal drugs means

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Speaker 1: don't get caught. Well, remember we have this rift in

601
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Speaker 1: the family and one of the John Gotti, Sammy the

602
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Speaker 1: Bull guys don't worry about. Remember his name, his name

603
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Speaker 1: is Angelo Riggio. He gets busted, He gets busted hard

604
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Speaker 1: on heroin for dealing heroine and he gets busted and

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Speaker 1: Gotti don't even ask me how this happened. People have

606
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: connections everywhere. Gotty and his guys get access to the tapes,

607
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: the wire tap tapes they have on Angelo Riggio, and

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Speaker 1: they hear him on tape talking about dealing Heroine. Paul

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00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: Castellano doesn't have his hand ends on these tapes yet,

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00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: he's obviously hearing rumors and the gaudy guys. No, when

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00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: Paul Castellano hears this, he's going to kill him. Why

612
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: is Paul Castellano absolutely going to kill him? Well, there's

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Speaker 1: a man you may have heard of by the name

614
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Speaker 1: of Rudy Giuliani. He was not Mayor of New York

615
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Speaker 1: yet he was a US attorney, a US attorney in

616
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Speaker 1: the district of New York that always goes after the mob,

617
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Speaker 1: and he as an ambitious US attorney, he had this thing.

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Speaker 1: There's a great three part it's just three part highly

619
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Speaker 1: recommended Netflix special on this right now. If you haven't

620
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Speaker 1: canceled Netflix, that's totally your call. But if you haven't

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Speaker 1: canceled it, there's a great Netflix, or at least there was,

622
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Speaker 1: called New York Versus the Mafia. Maybe it's New York

623
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Speaker 1: City versus the Mafia, although I think it's New York

624
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: versus the Mafia. There's a great special one exactly this

625
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Speaker 1: of Rudy Giuliani coming up with a plan to go

626
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Speaker 1: after the heads of all five families at the same time,

627
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Speaker 1: so you essentially bust them all in one day. Now,

628
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Speaker 1: it takes a long time to gather all the evidence

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Speaker 1: you need to do that, but they did it, and

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Speaker 1: they bust Paul Castellano and essentially label him as the

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Speaker 1: head of all five families, the boss of bosses, and

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Speaker 1: they set his bail at four million dollars, which of

633
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Speaker 1: course he paid. I mean, that's nothing, but for him

634
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Speaker 1: it's nothing. But now you're Paul Castellano. You may or

635
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: may not be the Boss of Bosses, but you are

636
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 1: the head of probably the most powerful family. You are

637
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: going to be looking to clean house if you will

638
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: ensure that you're not going to live out the rest

639
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: of that life of yours behind bars. John Gotti and

640
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 1: his guys know they're in very serious trouble of Paul

641
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: Castellano killing them, so they starts sniffing around not only

642
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: in the Gambino family, but the other families as well.

643
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: They start sniffing around. How much support would you say

644
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: we'd have if maybe we made sure Paul Castellano didn't

645
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: wake up tomorrow morning. And remember that Paul Castellano reputation

646
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: of greed, that Paul Castellano reputation of not really caring

647
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: for the street guys as much wanting to be more

648
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: white collar gott. He's getting a lot of support, so

649
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: much support that all it took was Paul Castellano making

650
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: one gigantic mistake for Gotti to make his decision. And

651
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 1: what was that mistake? Neil Dela Croce, You remember that name.

652
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: He was the other guy who could have got the

653
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: top job, the more street guy, the guy the street

654
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: guys respected more. He dies natural causes. Don't worry about it.

655
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: He dies. Paul Castellano, who's currently out on bail awaiting trial,

656
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: refuses to go to his funeral, says it would look bad.

657
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: Now you or I can maybe justify that, depending on

658
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: what the funeral traditions are in your family, how strict

659
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: they are. Oftentimes it's a cultural or religious thing. Many

660
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: cultures and religions. Obviously this is a very big deal,

661
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: so it's not that big of a deal. In general,

662
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: you can tell how a mafia guy was thought of

663
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: when he dies by his funeral. Lots of these guys

664
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: tick off so many people. It's only his wife at

665
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: the funeral. Some guys very well thought of funerals packed.

666
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: Just know this. Attending or not attending a funeral, at

667
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: least back in the day, was a very, very very

668
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: big deal for the boss of the family to not

669
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: attend the funeral of a high ranking, well respected member

670
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: of his own family. That is an an egregious affront

671
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: in these guys eyes, and the decisions made. Now, how

672
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 1: do you kill the boss? Boss always has a bodyguard

673
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: with him. Gotta figure out where he's gonna be. Paul

674
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: Castellano organizes a meeting at a little place called Sparks

675
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: Steakhouse in New York City. Last time I was in

676
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: New York City, I actually ate at Sparks Steakhouse specifically

677
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: because of this. If you look at the pictures, which

678
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're doing as we speak of Polcastellano dead

679
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: or Sparks Steakhouse, you don't get ahead of me, but

680
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: you can. I will tell you you can go there today.

681
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: It looks exactly the same, and you walk in. Well,

682
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: I'll explain in a minute. EBB sleep can change how

683
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: you function at home. You know what it's like when

684
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: you don't sleep. I know you know what it's like.

685
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: It starts to build on itself. And I am not

686
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: proud to admit this. Okay, I'm not. But when I

687
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: wasn't sleeping three four days, you get home from work

688
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: and you're a little snappy. Maybe you're not, but I'm

689
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: a little snappy, a little impatient, even a little lazy sometimes.

690
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: Can you take the trash out? Yeah? Yeah, I will

691
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: in a little bit. I just I just want to

692
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: sit here for a while. You know what I'm like

693
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: now when I get home from work, all this stuff

694
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 1: all day long, I get home from work, I'm ready

695
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: to go. Hey, let's take a family walk, let's work out,

696
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: let's do something. I'm borderline obnoxious. Go get yourself some

697
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: energy to go to Try ebb dot com slash Jesse.

698
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: That's try ebb dot com slash Jesse used to promo

699
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: code Jesse for twenty five bucks off Jesse. Kelly returns. Next.

700
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: How do you kill Pall Castellano? You wait till we

701
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: calls a meeting at Sparks steakhouse, which they did again.

702
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: I ate at Sparks Steakhouse. You walk in, and I

703
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: will tell you I recommend you eat there if you're

704
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: going to ask how the food was one. It was

705
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: expensive too. It's not in the top twenty of steakhouses

706
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: I've ever eaten at in my life, remarkably average, and

707
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: I'd still tell you to go spend the money and

708
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: eat there because it feels old and mafia alike. And

709
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: you look around and you're about ninety nine percent sure

710
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: there are at least a few guys and there who

711
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: are still it's very clearly an old New York City

712
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: mafia hangout, very clearly, and movie stars eat there, and

713
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: it just feels old and really really cool. I would

714
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: recommend it, and get ready to eat some street food

715
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 1: after because the food might suck. However, they know Paul

716
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: Castellano's going there with his bodyguard, John Gotti sets up

717
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: a large crew to kill him. He has several guys

718
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: blocking escape routes around Sparks, and he has four guys,

719
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: four guys who are set up by the door of

720
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: the Sparks Steakhouse, and they're all dressed like Russians, white

721
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: overcoats and Russian hats. Gotti wanted any witnesses to only

722
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: see that Paul Castellano pulls up the Sparks steakhouse. Paul

723
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: Castellano did not get to sit and enjoy his overpriced

724
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: steak that night, he and his bodyguard are gunned down

725
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: as Gotti and Sammy the Bull. Gravano sat in a

726
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: vehicle right up the street looking on. Again. If you're

727
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: not squeamish, you're welcome to go image search this right

728
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: now when you can see Big Paul splayed out dead

729
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: as a doornail. You're John Gotti. You just took out

730
00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: the boss. You now take over the Gambino crime family.

731
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: But there's a problem that's against the rules. That's very

732
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: very very much against the rules. And other mafia bosses

733
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: who didn't not approve of this beforehand, which you would

734
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: had to have gotten approval beforehand, are angry. They're so

735
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: angry they try to kill Goddy several times and end

736
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: up virtually incinerating one of the other buddies of Gotti

737
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: and Sammy the Bull as he tries to open up

738
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: his car. Car bomb blows up. Sammy the Bull runs

739
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: out to grab him and the guy falls apart in

740
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: his arms as he's pulling him out of the blown

741
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: up vehicle, and you guy's just gone. There's a price

742
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: to be paid. And contrary to popular opinion, Sammy the

743
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: Bull and Gotti were not close. They knew each other

744
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: kind of, but they were not close. And Gotti was

745
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: a street guy but also a guy. The rest of

746
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: the Gambino crime family did not think that highly of

747
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: it all. He thought very highly of himself, took all

748
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: the money in for himself, loved the media. And remember

749
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: what I said, the two characteristics of the long lasting

750
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: ones are quiet is a big one and not greedy.

751
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: Gatty was both of those things to the extreme, the

752
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: opposite of those things to the extreme. Teflon Don loved

753
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: the headlines and an interesting little side note, an extreme

754
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: degenerate gambler big time. He would run up and picture this,

755
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: How weird is this? The boss of maybe the most

756
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: powerful mafia family in America would go around town running

757
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: up six figure gambling debts and not paying them back.

758
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: How how much does that suck if you're a bookie

759
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: or the guy running that gambling house. Um, you can't

760
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: make John Gotti pay it back? And guess what if

761
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: John Gotti shows up at your door again the next

762
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: day to gamble, You're gonna tell him, no, you can't

763
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: do that either, So again, chopping away at it, chopping

764
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: away at it. Finally, the FBI is still all over

765
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: these guys. They bust them, Bust Gotti, bust Sammy the Bull.

766
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: They sit Sammy the Bull down and they start playing

767
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: him tapes of John Gotti. John Gotti caught on tape

768
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: blaming Sammy the Bull or a lot, putting everything on

769
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: Sammy the Bull, blaming him for murders, acting like he's

770
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: following Sammy the Bull. Sammy the Bull. Gravano feels like

771
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: he's about to be killed anyway, goes into witness protection.

772
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: FBI and all of them give him the deal of

773
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: a lifetime. The dude admits to murdering eighteen or nineteen people.

774
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: Puts away John Gotti for life. Gotti would die in prison,

775
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: puts away a bunch of other people as well. You

776
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: only hear about the big names, But these big time

777
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: mob guys who get busted, they testify in several trials.

778
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: They wouldn't have just been Gotti. That's just the one

779
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: you heard about. And essentially, Sammy the Bull spends about

780
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: a year in prison before he goes off to live

781
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 1: in witness protection in Arizona. In case you're wondering how

782
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: that went, Leopards can't change their spots, and Sammy the

783
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: Bull Gravano was given a job as in a pool

784
01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: installator in Arizona. And it's very, very very difficult to

785
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: go from being the guy who didn't have to call

786
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: for a reservation at Sparks Steakhouse, to be from being

787
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: the guy who everybody fear driving nice cars, nice clothes

788
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: to being a guy who installs pools. And Sammy the

789
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: Bull leaves Witness Protection, starts writing books, start doing media

790
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: tours stuff, and even that has a shelf life on it.

791
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: Eventually that publicity goes away, and Sammy the Bull does

792
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: the only thing he's ever known. He starts an ecstasy ring,

793
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: selling ecstasy as the Ecstasy Boss of the Phoenix Area.

794
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: I know you're going to find this shocking, but the

795
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: very much not mob guys, just a bunch of kids.

796
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: It looks like a bunch of twenty year old kids

797
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: that he brings in. Eventually, at all comes crashing down

798
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: on Sammy the Bull gets busted again and goes away

799
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: for a long, long time. Case you're wondering, he just

800
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,959
Speaker 1: recently got out of prison. I believe it was two

801
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen. I may have that wrong. An old

802
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: broken man still alive to this day. Who knows. Maybe

803
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: he'll hear the podcast of this show. Maybe he's listening

804
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: live as we speak. Sammy. If you're listening, you're welcome

805
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: to call into the show eight seven seven three seven

806
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: seven four three seven three eight seven seven three seven

807
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: seven four three seven three. Anyone else is welcome to

808
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: call in as well. I will give everybody a dog

809
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: update shortly. I will say this though, and this is

810
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: the last time you're ever going to get anything genuine

811
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: and nice out of me. Thank you. I asked yesterday

812
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: about the for advice on the pet allergy and my

813
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: sons I didn't want to give the dog back. They

814
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: love the dog. Blah blah blah blah blah. And I

815
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: showed up this morning to an absolute stack of emails

816
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: from you all giving advice on allergies, allergy doctors and whatnot.

817
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: You guys are awesome, Thank you. You know what. I

818
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: might also just give the update down. No need to

819
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: tease everybody, Chris, we went through an entire night last night,

820
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: no allergic reaction whatsoever. Looks like fingers crossed. We're gonna

821
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: be in the clear. And look, if it's in every

822
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: once in a while reaction thing, then they're keeping the dog.

823
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: I just didn't want the kid to live with hives

824
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: and bloodshot eyes twenty four hours a day. And I

825
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: don't want to have him to have to live with

826
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: being drugged out. I don't. I don't like all that crap.

827
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: Looks like we're going to have a success this tale there,

828
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: success story whatever. I don't do radio hang Newton Group Transfer.

829
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: They are here to help you if you're stuck in

830
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: a timeshare. These stories from people who have these time

831
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: shares and can't get out of them. They're shocking. These

832
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: time share companies, not all of them, but so many.

833
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: They get their hooks into you and you can't give

834
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: them up. You can't give them up or they'll they'll

835
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: do things like they charge you thousands of dollars. One

836
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: girl she got past her time share when her mother

837
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: passed away. She gets past the timeshar doesn't want the

838
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: time shar, doesn't use the time share. They tell her

839
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: she can get out of it for four thousand dollars.

840
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: She has to come up with a four thousand dollars check.

841
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: This is not right, it's unjust and Newton Group Transfers

842
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 1: is here to help you. If you are in a

843
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,520
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