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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kick Off live

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Speaker 1: right here on Giants dot Com. I am John Schmelt.

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Speaker 1: Demand to my left is Paul Datino, and the phone

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Speaker 1: number few is two O one nine nine four five

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Speaker 1: one three. It's the week of the NFL Draft. We're

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Speaker 1: just over seventy two hours away when the Browns will

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Speaker 1: make the first pick in the draft. In fact, I'll

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Speaker 1: be more specific, we're eighty hours away from when the

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Speaker 1: Browns will be making their first selection in the two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen NFL Draft. We've done a lot of

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Speaker 1: work to get here, folks, a lot of reading, a

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Speaker 1: lot of research, a lot of film watching, a lot

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Speaker 1: of chatting having some fun with you. So we've got

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Speaker 1: three more days or so to do it. We got

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Speaker 1: shows all week this week, from twelve to one Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Then of course we'll have our shows on Friday night,

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Speaker 1: Friday afternoon, then Saturday afternoon as well. Uh during those drafts,

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Speaker 1: and make sure you tune in and check them out.

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Speaker 1: Tony Pauline will be joining us at twelve oh five

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Speaker 1: from Draft Analysts dot Com. Does a great job, so

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Speaker 1: he'll be with us then and then we'll have all

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Speaker 1: your calls. Want to make sure we get a lot

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Speaker 1: of your calls in this week, since you've done so

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Speaker 1: many guests over the last three weeks or so, want

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Speaker 1: to make sure we get your opinion. We just a

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Speaker 1: few days heading into the draft, and of course we

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Speaker 1: have voluntary Veterans Mini camp as well, which is coming

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Speaker 1: will be a big shock full of information week for

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Speaker 1: Giants football. Polly, Yeah, good news for us. The weather

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Speaker 1: is outstanding right now and it's supposed to be that

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Speaker 1: way tomorrow for the first day of the voluntary Veterans

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Speaker 1: mini camps. It does, it does, and they may have

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Speaker 1: to move it into the field house. But on Friday

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Speaker 1: had everything in order so these players could get out

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Speaker 1: there and actually do some things on the field. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's only walk through stuff. Let's make that clear. In

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Speaker 1: Phase two of the off season team activities, as far

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Speaker 1: as I know, it's only walked through stuffed coaches can

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Speaker 1: be out there. My understanding as to the minicamp operated

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Speaker 1: on their Phase three rules, I will check on that

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Speaker 1: I thought it did. I will double check. See this

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Speaker 1: is the optional based on the fact that Sherman was

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Speaker 1: new coaches get this additional miniicam. There's a mandatory later

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Speaker 1: on in the month, actually later on next month, in

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Speaker 1: the middle of June, mid the miditory miniicamp. The first

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Speaker 1: mini camp is an optional minicamp. I thought that that

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Speaker 1: could be wrong. I thought it was. I thought it

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Speaker 1: go to the Opreme Court and argue that case. Then

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Speaker 1: let's not discuss that any further other than to say

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Speaker 1: the players will be on the field. That's the good news, correct,

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Speaker 1: And we'll get to see some of the guys that

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Speaker 1: made after the offseason. We'll see the new punters, the

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Speaker 1: after you say about it, Tony Pauline and we take

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Speaker 1: your calls. I have a draft option for Paul that

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Speaker 1: I don't think he can refuse. I'll try to sell

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Speaker 1: Paw on this before he had his final show before

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Speaker 1: the draft tomorrow and he'll give his final picks or

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Speaker 1: whatever he wants to do. Okay, in his final show,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to convince you something one more time.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it my all. Ok Okay, okay, But

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Speaker 1: let's get to our guest first. He's Tony Pauline from

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Speaker 1: Draft Analyst dot Com. Tony's a friend of the program.

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Speaker 1: We talked him with the combine. Now we talked to

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me back, hey, Tony, anytime. We love you.

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Speaker 1: Look great to have you. Uh. Let's talk about this first.

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Speaker 1: Usually around this time and It usually starts maybe last week.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Tony. We had Jon during

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Speaker 1: want to follow up on one thing there, Tony. On Rosen,

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Speaker 1: I've heard a few different people talk about Josh Rosen

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Speaker 1: and his fragility. They talk about his frame. But the

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Speaker 1: say they were afraid that Josh Rosen doesn't do a

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Speaker 1: he takes a lot of big hits, and that's one

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Speaker 1: Is that the type of thing you're hearing from NFL teams, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's one that he's got. A fragile guy had major issue.

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Speaker 1: I mean he had he had a major shoulder issue,

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Speaker 1: and he's had got concussions. So it's not like it's

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Speaker 1: it's nix and bruises. It's some major issues. And what

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Speaker 1: For god, that's had concussions in a major shoulder issue.

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Speaker 1: So yes, absolutely so, now Tony, you're you're saying Rosen

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Speaker 1: Josh Rosen actually falling to the eleventh pick of the

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Speaker 1: draft in the Miami Dolphins, out of the top ten. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so how many quarterbacks? How many quarterbacks do you have

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Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if if Lamar Jackson uh bypasses Josh

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Speaker 1: Rosen or selected before Josh Rosen. Great athlete, terrific, electrifying quarterback,

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Speaker 1: can make plays with his armor's legs, but he's really

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Speaker 1: a long way from being NFL ready. I really want

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Speaker 1: when you look at it, Josh Rosen is the most

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Speaker 1: NFL ready quarterback in this draft, hands down. So I

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Speaker 1: Rosen could for top ten. Rosen could be a top

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Speaker 1: Tony Pauline, Draft Analyst dot Com. Tony, I know you

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Speaker 1: haven't pulled the league on this question, but just from

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Speaker 1: lot of good stuff, Tony. What if the Giants don't

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Speaker 1: a starting caliber offensive lineman for the Giants at the

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Speaker 1: top of the second round. You're gonna have some some

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Speaker 1: options open to them. I mean Connor Williams. I don't

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Speaker 1: know who a lot of people thought is a top

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Speaker 1: fifteen pick. I never had ranked at high. I think

432
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Speaker 1: we talked about the combine and throw slover hide. He's

433
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Speaker 1: still gonna be there at the top of round two.

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Speaker 1: The guy who could potentially play left tackle. People projecting

435
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Speaker 1: the guard that will be an option for the Giants.

436
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Speaker 1: A kid who's rising up draft boards who we saw

437
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Speaker 1: at the Senior Bolt Austin Corporate of Nevada played tackless.

438
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Speaker 1: Nevada projects to either guard or center at the next level.

439
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Speaker 1: Really a smart, thinking man's type of lineman. A guy

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Speaker 1: who I think can start early in his career have

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Speaker 1: a long career. At the next level, he will be

442
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Speaker 1: available to the Giants. You know, and one interesting name

443
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Speaker 1: would be Billy Price of a Hill State. I know

444
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Speaker 1: the Giants have a center, but Price is a guy who,

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Speaker 1: before his pectoral injury at the combine, was projected as

446
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Speaker 1: the top twenty pick. The peck injury is a little

447
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Speaker 1: bit more serious than people thought, but Price outside of

448
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Speaker 1: the top twenty two is great value. This guy is

449
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Speaker 1: a dominant center who can also play guard, so you

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Speaker 1: could potentially if you're willing to wait. If you're willing to,

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Speaker 1: you know, let the injury heal and let him get

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Speaker 1: back on his heat properly. You could have a great

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Speaker 1: line in two or three years through two or three

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Speaker 1: years down the road if you take Billy Price at

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Speaker 1: the top around here. Let me ask you about that

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Speaker 1: rehab Tony, because the last that I thought I had

457
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Speaker 1: heard was at the end of June was gonna be

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Speaker 1: the schedule for him and that he would be ready

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Speaker 1: for training camp. If that were the case, to me,

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Speaker 1: I could see you take a Billy Price. You got

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Speaker 1: Brett Jones under contract already, he just resigned with the

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Speaker 1: Giants to be a center. Maybe you played Price at

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Speaker 1: guard for a year like what they did with Weston Richburg,

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Speaker 1: and then in a year or two, if you decide

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Speaker 1: that Price should be your starting center, well then you

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Speaker 1: deal with it then. But what's what's wrong with maybe

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Speaker 1: making him a guard for a year or two while

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Speaker 1: you kind of sort out the rest of your line.

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Speaker 1: You know, first of all, I heard what Price is

470
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Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit longer? Is that before he

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Speaker 1: gets back on Still you have the option to get

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Speaker 1: a price. To me, was the is the best? The

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Speaker 1: best interior offensive, the best center to come out of

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Speaker 1: a house state since Nick Mangold, and you could get

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Speaker 1: that type of player at the top of round to

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Speaker 1: grab them. Yeah, over isaih a win Uh, Isaiah Whin

477
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Speaker 1: will be long gone. I think will be going to

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Speaker 1: be the first interior linement off the board. Could go

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Speaker 1: as early as Cincinnati. Wow at that twentieth pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Isaiah when has moved ahead of will her

481
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Speaker 1: Nande's primarily because he's more prone. He's he's got better

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Speaker 1: he's got better feet, he's better on his feet. He's

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Speaker 1: more a depth to his zone blocking type of system

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Speaker 1: where you can use in motion, where will Hernandez. He's tough,

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Speaker 1: he's mean, he's nasty, but you gotta play him in

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Speaker 1: a phone boot. You gotta play him in a small area.

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Speaker 1: So I would expect Isaiah wouldn't to be selected three

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Speaker 1: to four picks before will her Nanda. Okay, Tony final

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Speaker 1: one for me and I don't think we talked about

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Speaker 1: this enough. The Giants have two picks at the top

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Speaker 1: around three thanks for the Jason Pierre Paltry. Only four

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Speaker 1: selections apart um with the trade of the Tampa Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think there's gonna be some good value

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Speaker 1: in depth left up there where you might be able

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Speaker 1: to squeeze out a couple more starting players at the

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Speaker 1: top around three in this draft, they could still get

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Speaker 1: a good offensive linement at the top of round three.

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Speaker 1: I have them in my latest mock draft with their

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Speaker 1: second picking the third of round, taking Tarrell Crosby of Oregon.

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Speaker 1: I can play left or right tackle. Guy who's got

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Speaker 1: a lot of upside. He's gonna need some work, but again,

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Speaker 1: if you're patient with him, a year or two down

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Speaker 1: the road, you could have a starting player. So I

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Speaker 1: think you're gonna have him. We talked about it the combine.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Smith of Auburn. I have him as a late

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Speaker 1: late second rounder, but again, he could fold down to

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Speaker 1: the Giants last in round three, a guy who could

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Speaker 1: play guard, could play right tackle. The next level, mean, tough,

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Speaker 1: nasty guy. One of those two guys in round three

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Speaker 1: I think would be an excellent selection. I also have

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Speaker 1: them taken. Duke aijer four and edge rusher Uh from

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Speaker 1: wake Forest. The guy who probably was a top pick

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Speaker 1: had labram surgery, was kept out of the combine. Really

514
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Speaker 1: hasn't worked out, but you'll watch this film. He's the

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Speaker 1: guy who could stand up as a pass rusher. You

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Speaker 1: can have him come out of a three point stance,

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Speaker 1: very good player on his feet, good in pursuit. So

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Speaker 1: I think that sort of player would be available to

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Speaker 1: the Giants as well. I'm gonna go one more question

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Speaker 1: along those lines, Tony, if they had to go for

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Speaker 1: a corner there, because I do think the Giants could

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Speaker 1: use another corner on this roster if they decided, maybe

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Speaker 1: with with one of those third round picks. Is there

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Speaker 1: a starting caliber corner you think could drop to that point. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna answer that in to two ways. Number One,

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Speaker 1: I think they could get a starting caliber corner at

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Speaker 1: the top of round two, maybe a Mike Hughes type

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Speaker 1: if he's available to them, So they can get that

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Speaker 1: player in the top round two. Top of round three,

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Speaker 1: you're looking at a guy like a J. C. Jackson

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Speaker 1: out of Maryland. Sean Golden of Tennessee, who's getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of positive talk recently, is moving up draft boards.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy who you know, is he gonna start

534
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Speaker 1: immediately out of the flanks or on the outside. No,

535
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Speaker 1: but you ease him in as a nickel cornerback and

536
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Speaker 1: could have eventually turn into a starter down the road. Tony. Finally,

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Speaker 1: I see your mock draft. You saycom Barty in round one,

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Speaker 1: Mike hus in round two. So that's your prediction for

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Speaker 1: the Giants. If you were in Dave Gentleman shoes and

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Speaker 1: we headed you the general manager job, top around, run

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Speaker 1: top round two, what would you do with that pick?

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Speaker 1: With those picks? Uh, basically what? Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I would entertain trade offers. I mean, you know, because

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Speaker 1: there's a variety of halls, I would entertain trade offers.

545
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Speaker 1: And then you gotta look, is all those trade offers

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Speaker 1: equal value to the player on the board. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have. In my opinion, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: get a huge trade offer to pass up on se

549
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Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley. Wold my mind is an immediate starter can

550
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Speaker 1: do so many things for your offense. Granted, you want

551
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Speaker 1: to improve the offensive line, but but I think short

552
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Speaker 1: of any blockbuster trade, you gotta go with Barkley one.

553
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Speaker 1: And then you gotta go but you know you want

554
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Speaker 1: to fill needs, but you still want to go best

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Speaker 1: player available. You build great football teams by bringing in

556
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Speaker 1: really good football players. If you're just reaching for needs,

557
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Speaker 1: you're just have an array of mediocre players and you're

558
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Speaker 1: basically back to where you started. So I'm gonna stay

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Speaker 1: true to the you want to film needs, but you

560
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Speaker 1: still want to go best player available, you don't want

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Speaker 1: to reach well, you know, Tony, it seems after our

562
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Speaker 1: conversation though, where the Giants are gonna be picking high

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Speaker 1: and rounds one, two and three. I mean, obviously that's

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Speaker 1: what happens when you have a three win season. The

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Speaker 1: Giants are gonna be able to kind of match up

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Speaker 1: needs and value based on what you're talking about. Because

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Speaker 1: at these key positions we're talking running back, UM, outside linebacker,

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Speaker 1: potentially cornerback, uh our offensive line running back. These are

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Speaker 1: all spots where you know you're gonna get three rounds

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Speaker 1: of legitimate players, are you not? I said to you

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Speaker 1: guys at the combine, the Giants are in a very

572
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Speaker 1: good position. I mean, the Giants have a lot of

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Speaker 1: leverage whether they want to take best player available, whether

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Speaker 1: they want to trade down because those early picks, what

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Speaker 1: happens is is round one, you know, round two will

576
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Speaker 1: Round one will enter will be finished, and then there'll

577
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Speaker 1: be teams who want to move up to get a player.

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Speaker 1: You know, you saw up with the Giants who landon

579
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Speaker 1: cons when they want to move up to the Atlanta Console.

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Speaker 1: The Giants and are in a good position because there

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Speaker 1: will be good players available. There also maybe some demand

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Speaker 1: for those selections for teams who want to move up

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Speaker 1: to get those players. Johns could trade down and get

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Speaker 1: some extra spots. So I mean, if I'm a Giants fan,

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Speaker 1: granted was a three win season, it was tortu last year.

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Speaker 1: Very excited about Thursday, Friday and sat. Tony awesome stuff

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00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: is always my friends. We appreciate you. Can check out

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00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: all the Tony Tony stuff on Draft Analyst dot com.

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Speaker 1: Tony always a pleasure, Thanks a lot for your help

590
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: all year long. We'll talk to you after the draft, right,

591
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: terrific stuff, Tony. Thanks absolutely, good luck to the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. That's Tony Poline does a wonderful job.

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Speaker 1: Draft Analyst dot com. And now we'll get to your

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Speaker 1: calls at two on one nine four or five one three.

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Speaker 1: I only want to add some folks who maybe don't

596
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: listen all the time, or maybe if you're newcomers to

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Speaker 1: the program. Uh, John has known Tony Poline for a

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Speaker 1: lot of years, and Tony is one of those original

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Speaker 1: guys who started going to the Combine before it really

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00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: blew up at mid nineties. He's a long time Combined follower.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I remember he was telling us that, uh,

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00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: you know, are you know? I remember when it was

603
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: five or six guys huddling around in a hotel lobby

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00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: and now it's like a full convention. So this is

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00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: a guy who's been at it like forever. So I

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00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: do put a lot of stock into what he says.

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00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: He's not just one of these Johnny come Lately guys

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Speaker 1: or maybe just a pure Aroundnalytics guy. This is a

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Speaker 1: fellow who has seen the full scope of stuff from

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Speaker 1: when it was in its infancy to now the explosion

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Speaker 1: that has become the Draft two one four or five

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Speaker 1: one three. All right, it's your calls the rest of

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Speaker 1: the way, and towards the end of the show, I'll

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Speaker 1: give try to give Paul an offer he can't refuse.

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Speaker 1: So to James in Virginia, James, you're gonna leave us

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Speaker 1: off on Big Blue Kick Off Live on Giants dot Com.

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Speaker 1: What's up buddy, Hey, how y'a doing? Um? Big giants fan? Um,

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Speaker 1: getting ready to retire out of army real quick, and

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Speaker 1: thank you for your service. God blessed, Thank you. And

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Speaker 1: John and Paul questions for you real quick? Um, you

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna pick up this Briant? And I do

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Speaker 1: not think they're gonna pick up Des Briant and and

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Speaker 1: and James real quick before you ask your second question,

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Speaker 1: the type of personalities Dave Gettiman tried to bring in here. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Des just doesn't really seem to fit into that category

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, And to me, that's the overriding factor.

627
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Speaker 1: And of course you have the medical you have to

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Speaker 1: deal with, and then you have to deal with the

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Speaker 1: fine answers. There were a lot of high hurdles that

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Speaker 1: would have to be cleared for him to be a

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Speaker 1: realistic option. And quite honestly, I said this the day

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Speaker 1: he was caught. I don't think he's signing with anybody

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Speaker 1: ntil after the draft. I really don't. I know, I

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Speaker 1: agree if his teams want to see what kind of

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Speaker 1: receivers they get in the draft, I'm okay. And second question, Um,

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Speaker 1: you think they're gonna get Barkley? Over alignment. Um, but

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Speaker 1: I know we definitely, you know, need either one. Definitely

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00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: we need some help for Eli. Um. But as I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm just seeing, you know, what they think they might

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Speaker 1: do if Cleveland don't mess up everything. Look, Paul and

641
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Speaker 1: I don't know for sure what the Giants are gonna do, James,

642
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: we honestly don't. I'm not even sure if Dave Gentleman

643
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: has made his final decision that he might have over

644
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: the weekend, I'm not sure about that. Maybe he does

645
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: know at this time today. Um, if I had to

646
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: bet right now and you maybe guess who the Giants

647
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: would take, I think they're gonna take Barkley. That would

648
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: be what my thought process is. Do I know that? No,

649
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: But I think Paul stands kind of in the same

650
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: place that I do. Right. Yeah. And the only thing

651
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: I would add is that the scouts were given several

652
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: days off. They are back in the building today, and

653
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: according to Dave Gettleman, the way he spelled out the

654
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: plans last week, uh, now, they really hunkered down and

655
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: they tried to really fine tune and tweak that draft

656
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: board over the course of the next forty eight hours.

657
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: After he gave the Scouts a few days off. Dave

658
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: said he was going to be studying film the entire weekend.

659
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if he ever left the building. Quite frankly,

660
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: he might not have. He is such a film junkie

661
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: as he tried to, you know, catch any kind of

662
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: final things that he could on those tapes. He actually

663
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: James had had a very funny line. He did an

664
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: interview with Bob Papa that I think on Giants Access

665
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: blew this past week, if I'm not mistaken, But one

666
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: part that got cut out. They did like a tomb

667
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: and interview. They got it down the four minutes, and

668
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: one part that got cut out. He basically said, I'm

669
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: sending the Scouts home. I'm watching tape all weekend unless

670
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: the building is burning down, don't bother me. And that

671
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: was his quote. Um, but yeah, the last quick question, Um,

672
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: I said, I think it's gonna be a good year

673
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: for us. Well, I know it is. We're doing a

674
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: lot of changes. Hopefully somebody else give us an offer

675
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: we can't refuse before the draft. But big Giants fan, Um,

676
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: thank you, Johnny Part for what y'all do. And I'm

677
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: getting my first sports tattoo of the Giants and also

678
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: a tattoo with army um. But I really appreciate what

679
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: y'all doing. I'm big Giants fan and gonna see a

680
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: couple of games this year in New York. Make sure

681
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: you come over, come over and stop and see us.

682
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be at MetLife Stadium, we'd like to

683
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: see what it is that your artist puts on your

684
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: I guess your arm. But yes we are. Yeah, yeah,

685
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: we all be at Helmet and in New York. Giants

686
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: REGI man, but I've seen you one day at the

687
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving game last year in the stadium, but I couldn't

688
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: get to you. Don't be afraid to say hi. At

689
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: Giant Stadium before every game, we do our predio pregame

690
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: show a met Life gates, So if you want to

691
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: show up there, we'll be there between I think it's

692
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: a one o'clock game against the Well, whatever time the

693
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: game might be, we there from an hour and a

694
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: half till game time. So make sure you come in

695
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: and if you go to a game, stop by and

696
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: say hi. Okay, great stuff, thanks James of the you too,

697
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: and and once again, thank you for yourself. Says a

698
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: lot about his fandom that he's going to put a

699
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: giant's tattoo end an army tattoo on at the same time.

700
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: That means he holds the giant sit about as high

701
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: as regard as you possibly can. It sounds like you

702
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: I don't have any ink on me. I'm not doing that, Yeah,

703
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: because you don't have the guts to get all the needles.

704
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't like needles. I don't like snakes either, or

705
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: cowboys or redskins or eagles. I'm not going there. It's

706
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: going to mat and Rhode Island. He's up next. What's

707
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: going on? Mad? How are your buddy good? After what's met?

708
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: You know, I want to echo the last caller said,

709
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: you guys have done a fantastic job this trap. Thank you.

710
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm get a lot of good guests on, even some

711
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: guys some of the smiler schools, just to kind of

712
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: hear their perspective on some of the prospects. It's it's

713
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: been a lot of fun to listen to. Even if

714
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: I can't catch a vibe, I always try to capt

715
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: it almost the ride home. So a great job from

716
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: you guys. Um, hey, listen, it's here at this point, Um,

717
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: we've we've kind of made it wearing that last stretch here,

718
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: I've come to grips with the fact that they're probably

719
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: gonna walk away with Barkley, even though I still don't

720
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: think it's the right use of the asset um round two.

721
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: I have to disagree with Tony Pauling here. The best

722
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: player available to me is largely part a myth. Once

723
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: in a blue somebody will really stand out. But at

724
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: that top of that second round, particularly if they take Barkley,

725
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: I don't see how this team could walk away without

726
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: taking a lineman there. Uh, you draft a dirn round lineman,

727
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna get their third round production most of the time. Man,

728
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: I hear you. But I would not underestimate the need

729
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: at cornerback on this roster. It is almost dire. They

730
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: don't have a third cornerback John. But that's not gonna

731
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: cripple your foot. It's not going to cripple your team

732
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: like we've seen the offensive line cripple this offense. They

733
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to function the last few years.

734
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna have to line up in

735
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: one particular formation with the Giants have over the last

736
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: two years of the time no matter. I agree with you, man,

737
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: I agree. If if there's a guy at tackle that

738
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: you think is sitting there like a Connor Williams, like

739
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: he mentioned that you can pick at the top around too,

740
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: I would take him, and I would not take a

741
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: cornerback because you know, I think tackle is a different

742
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: story depending on what guard it is. I think it's

743
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: a tougher question. If Billy Price is there, I would

744
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: pick Billy Price over one of the corners. But if

745
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: he's gone and I'm looking at Brandon Smith or Mike Hughes,

746
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: I think Mike Hughes is a better football player, I

747
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: would consider taking he's in that situation. You know, you

748
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: could logically, you could logically make a case for a

749
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: corner if there's a blue chip guy. See to me,

750
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: the guy you take in that spot has to be

751
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: a plug in place start, absolutely, okay, because you have

752
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: enough of needs on this team, You have enough of

753
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: thin spots on this team where the value of a

754
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: top of the second round picks should be a plug

755
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: in place starter. So now, if you're gonna tell me

756
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: that there's a plug in place starter at corner, but

757
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: there are none left and offensive tackle or guard or guard,

758
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's gonna happen. Neither do I.

759
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: So I don't think Billy Price and Connor Williams and

760
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: James Daniels and Isaiah Win and Hernandez are all gonna

761
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: be gone. And I don't think that happens. So, Matt,

762
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to agree with you. I think it's going

763
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: to be an offensive lineman. You know how I love

764
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: hog Molly's anywhere, And I don't have any problem if

765
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: the Giants take two offensive linemen in their top four picks.

766
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: How about that? Paul going to say that that I believe.

767
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm a believer. Right now, we we know what malt

768
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: is right, we can spooch him, feel good about him

769
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: all momay is I mean? For a fan, I'm a

770
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: bad fan. I still don't know who Patrick Oman is like,

771
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: he's not he's not on my radar during that. He's

772
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: a solid he's a solid player and an upgrade over

773
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: what the Giants had, and that and that's about all

774
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: you need to I'm not sure if he's a better

775
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: player than Pew. He's replacing Pew at left guard. I'm

776
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: not sure if he's enough. He's an upgrade because he's

777
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: more reliable, he's more well, he'll be a field. But

778
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: if you take both guys on the field, he's a

779
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: better player when he's at his best, well when he's

780
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: healthy and he's playing. But that's not the case. I understand. Well,

781
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: that's not the trip too far, but sorry, man, the

782
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: other three spots are still complete. Well. Jones, Joe Brett

783
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: Jones is a quality player. He's fine. You can win

784
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: with Brett Jones at center. He's not gonna he's not

785
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: gonna make any Pro Bowls, but you'll you'll, you'll be

786
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: okay with him. I'm curious to see how he holds

787
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: up over sixteen games we're going to come in spot duty.

788
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he's clearly a guy that can certainly up

789
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: great over um, you know, you feel more comfortable if

790
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: he was your backup. So I just feel like, and

791
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: I agree with Paul, this is what kind of why

792
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: I hate the Barkley pick, because I feel like, not

793
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: that I hate it, but I feel like he should

794
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: be taking the There have so many need that premium

795
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: positions to take a non premium position, you know, with

796
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: their first pick, he better really be everything. He's being

797
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: cracked up to be, but I just don't want this

798
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: team to walk out of this draft with that at

799
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: least one starter. And I honestly feel like in the interior,

800
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: if they went center at the top of that second round,

801
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: they can find a guard in round three that's better

802
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: than John Jerry Um other than that guy's look. Thanks boy.

803
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you guys taking my call and all

804
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: the work done over the last week, so I'll be

805
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: continuing to tune in. Thank you, Bud uh and and also,

806
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: quite honestly, uh you could also make a case if

807
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: there's a plug in place start of it outside linebacker

808
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: in the second or third round, that would certainly be

809
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: a value there for that. To me, the four guess

810
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: positions in need for the Giants is corner, linebacker, offensive line,

811
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: running back, and then the fifth one is pass rusher.

812
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: Those are your five big needs for the Giants in

813
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: this draft. In my opinion, that's tip with you on

814
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: the four. I don't know about the fifth one. I'm

815
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: not sure. They certainly need more depth at wide receiver,

816
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: they certainly need more depth at defensive and I don't

817
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: know if those necessarily have to come in the first

818
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: four picks. Though, do you have a second pass restaurant

819
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: this roster tact with depth? Who's your second guy? I'm

820
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: looking at a lot of schematic stuff, so don't the words.

821
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: You don't have one proven guy, and that's why that's

822
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: but we don't know about technically what Ocquara is gonna

823
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: do one to the new scheme. We don't know what

824
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 1: Martin's gonna do one to the new scheme. We don't

825
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: know about Tomorrow is gonna do. Martin was in this

826
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: scheme in Arizona. He wasn't a big sack gay, didn't

827
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: pay a lot. He played enough. He played, Yeah, but

828
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be asked to rush more.

829
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: Maybe you could be right. So you're right, there's nothing

830
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: prove I'm not telling you they don't need another pass

831
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: rusher or they don't need another wide receiver. They could

832
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: certainly use those two positions. But in the first four picks,

833
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: if you said to me that value matches need, if

834
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: I could somehow blend it into those first four, right,

835
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: I would much rather do that. And I get that.

836
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: Let me just say this real quick, and this will

837
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: lead into my option. But I have Scott in New

838
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: Mexico was holding through the interview and to make sure

839
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: I get him on first. If, like you said, you

840
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: pick Barkley and then too offensive lineman with three your

841
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: first four picks, I'm extremely worried about this defense this year.

842
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: There are a lot of holes. Yeah, but that's only

843
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: three of the first four picks. Who says that that

844
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: other pick can't be an outside linebacker or a corner.

845
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: It could be one of you. Then you still don't

846
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: have a defensive end or a pass rusher or a

847
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: linebacker if you pick the corner and vice versa. That's

848
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: my point. I think there are leave it this way.

849
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: On offense, I have one Beckham Jr. Have Sterling Shepherd,

850
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: I have Evan Ingram. I know I have three pretty

851
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: dwn good weapons there. Okay, pretty dawn good weapons. One

852
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: might be the best at his position when healthy in

853
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: Oltod Beckham Jr. One could be a top five pass

854
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: catching tight end in Evan Ingram, and the other one is,

855
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: in my opinion, one of the better slot receivers in football,

856
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: and who who who can also play outside. I'm confident

857
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: about my weapons on offense. I'm not as confident about

858
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: my weapons on defense. Square that offensive line away and

859
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: that's gonna take away a lot of your problems because

860
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: once again you go to a little bit more to

861
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: the cowboy philosophy, where if you control the ball, you

862
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: got the running game, you got the offensive line, you

863
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: control the ball, you will get that defense off the

864
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: field a lot more. And that can help you pick

865
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman or two. But I can't. I can't

866
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: pick two offensive lineman a running back the three out

867
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: of the first four picks. I need to get another

868
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: defensive plight. Don't have a problem with it. But that's okay.

869
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: I would we could differ. Here's the thing. I would

870
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: rather pick the two offensive Oneman's tough. It's a tough spot. Anyway.

871
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: Let's go to Scott in New Mexico next. And I

872
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: totally understand where where you're coming from, Autitor, I absolutely do.

873
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: What's up, Scott? How are you? Hi? Guys? How you

874
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: doing do it well? Thank you? I'm going to echo

875
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: the first two caller sentiments. Uh, you guys have done

876
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: an amazing job. In fact, I've never been disengaged in

877
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: the draft in my entire life. Thank you. My wife.

878
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: My wife thinks I'm out of my mind because every

879
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: time you mentioned another player. I'm on the computer looking

880
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: at film tape and so forth. So I wish the

881
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: draft was this afternoon so I wouldn't have to do

882
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: this anymore. Only three days left. Only three days left.

883
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: By the way, don't feel bad. Most people thought I

884
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: lost my mind about thirty years ago. Okay, Well, my

885
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: questions are are basic ones. Uh. I was scorn Barkley

886
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: guy from the beginning, but Paul you sort of convinced

887
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: me to draft down and I thought that was a

888
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: great idea. And one of the reasons why I thought

889
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: it was a great idea is you could pick up

890
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: in that twelve to twenty two if they go with Buffalo,

891
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: pick up a player potentially like a Denzel Award if

892
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: he's available. I don't know if he would be, but

893
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: that's a credit player. And I kind of agree with

894
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: Turn that they need a shutdown corner. On the other side,

895
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of confidence in Neil I Apple,

896
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: and I was wondering whether you thought that's still a

897
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: good idea or a Cequon Barkley really the way to

898
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: go if the boatload of picks is available, and it's

899
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: got to be a boatload, I know John says he

900
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: wants to get to me at the end of the show.

901
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to here right now. This God just

902
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: brought it up. But but it's got to be a

903
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: boatload for me to to trade out of the se

904
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley pick, because he helps this team in so

905
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: many ways, not only the running game, not only in

906
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: the passing game, but he also because of his offensive repertoire,

907
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: can help keep the defense off the field and actually

908
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: also help your defense. Excuse me, I'm sorry. So yeah,

909
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: that was nasty. My apologies, get quick enough. I was nasty. Uh,

910
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: that's for the bookbrail, John. So all I'm saying is

911
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna have to be someone backing up the truck

912
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: for me to pass on Barkley, That's all I'm saying.

913
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of committed now to it's not gonna happen.

914
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: No one's gonna back up the truck, and I'm gonna

915
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: make the picket to and there's no doubt in my

916
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: mind Barkley's the number one choice. Okay, and John, you

917
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: feel the same way. Um, I've actually turned a little

918
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: bit um and we'll get again into that right now, Scott,

919
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, keep listening, and he may not

920
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: be done. Are you done? I have one more question,

921
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: and it's actually the elephant in the room, and it

922
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: has to deal with Odell Beckham. I want to ask

923
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: a question, uh, and I'll take the answer off off

924
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: the air. Uh. Say Odell Beckham comes to Dave Gentleman

925
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: and says, I want a guaranteed contract for sixty million,

926
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: say twenty million a year. I'm not interested in what

927
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman do, but what would you guys do if

928
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: that does, if that scenario presents itself, and would you

929
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: do that deal or not? And I'll take the question

930
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: off the very simply. I say no, because why would

931
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: you guarantee him sixty million over three years when you

932
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: can franchise him every year on an individual basis and

933
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: pay him less than sixty million dollars. You can franchise

934
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: him for each of the next two years, so you

935
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: control this year and two more. So that's three years

936
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: in less than sixty millions. So why would I guarantee

937
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: him three years sixty And on top of that, I'm

938
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: not giving anybody, anybody any new deals when they're coming

939
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: off a medical situation until he proves to me that

940
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: he's still the same guy on the field. Correct, I mean,

941
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: why would you do that? And obviously we don't like

942
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: to get into the money with contracts, but that was

943
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: a specific question, so we address that. All right, Here

944
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: we go, Paul, what do you got giants picking a

945
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: two and thirty four? You want Barkley at two? Right? Okay?

946
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: Is that you want to select? Yes? Who realistically do

947
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: you want to select the thirty four? Well, they're gonna

948
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: tell me that that Connor Williams. If Tony Pauline is

949
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: right and Connor Williams is there at thirty, I'm not

950
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: giving you Connor Williams. I'll give you Billy Price. Hmm.

951
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: If Billy Price can be ready for August, I will

952
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: give you Billy Price ready for a trading camp with

953
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: that coffee. Then I got no problem taking him because

954
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna be He's gonna be a starting

955
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: guard for me. Okay, perfect for now. That guy said

956
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: to Tony, I'm gonna start him there for now. And

957
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: if at some point in time I get him into

958
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: the center spot a year or two down the road,

959
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: that's fine. Depending upon what happens with Brett Jones, but

960
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: he could be my starting guard. Okay, I'll take Barkley

961
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: and Price. That's good that that's your option number one. Okay,

962
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: Now I want I want you to focus on this.

963
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: You have the right stuff down, you can. It's okay,

964
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: because it's right. It's gonna be a little complicated. You're

965
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: gonna get complicated. It's not gonna be bad for you.

966
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: Don't worry that. I'm gonna give you their choice of

967
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: these players. At least two of these plays will be available. Okay, Okay,

968
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: you can get one of the following players. And this

969
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: guaranteed that two of these guys will be there. I

970
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: can't guarantee which two, all right, that's how the draft goes,

971
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward make it, Fitzpatrick, ro Kwan Smith, Tremaine Edmonds,

972
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: Derwin James, Mike McGlinchey. Okay, I can guarantee it two

973
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: of those guys would be there. And where where am

974
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: I taking? I'm not telling you that. I'm just guaranteeing

975
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: you that two of those guys will be there because

976
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: I can guarantee that based on the math. And I'm

977
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: to take which one? No, no, which one? Which one

978
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: do you want? You get what you get what you can.

979
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: You can get one guy from that group. I can

980
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: only get one guy from that groups. So you can

981
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: get one guy from that group. I'm taking, Uh, I'm

982
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: taking Minca. You're taking Fitzpatrick. Okay, and I think that's

983
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: actually realistic. Okay, I like that pick. Okay, you got Minca.

984
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: Now you get one of this group Isaiah Win, will Hernandez,

985
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: James Daniels, Connor Williams, Rashaan Evans, Layton Vander esh And

986
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: I'm only going to take one of those. Get one

987
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: of those guys. I don't even throw Harold Landry in

988
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: that group for you. How about that, I'll give you.

989
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: You're taking Isaiah Win. Okay. Next group, you're getting one

990
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: of Mike Cues, Isaiah Oliver, Joshua Jackson. Which one do

991
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: you want? Hughes giving you Myke Cues. Now I'm giving

992
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: you one of Rashad Penny, Nick Chubb, carry On Johnson.

993
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: Which one do you want? Oh Man, that's a tough one.

994
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: That's a tough one. And you might even have a

995
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: chance to get Ronald Jones in this group too, if

996
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: you want. But I one made a little The tough

997
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: one for me is if Chubb's knee, if my medical

998
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: guys tell me Chubb's knee is not a concern at all. Year,

999
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: I know that. But if they're going to tell me

1000
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: there's no residual, then I'm then I'm then I'm gonna

1001
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: take I'm gonna take job. Okay, let me ask you

1002
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: a question. Yeah, would you rather have see Kwan Barkley

1003
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: and Billy Price? Yeah? Or would you rather have Mickey Fitzpatrick,

1004
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: Isaiah Win, Mike Hughes and Nick Chubb? Wow, that's where

1005
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: you were going with this. Huh Wow, that's not that

1006
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: easy for me, John. And by the way, it's not

1007
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: that easy. You probably thought I would take the four

1008
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: guys in a heartbeat. I'm not doing it. Here's the here, here,

1009
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: here's the kicker. You also get two thousand, nineteen first

1010
00:48:50,719 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: round pick. I probably have to take before guys with

1011
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: the first round here. So what that is you're trading

1012
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: number two the Buffalo Bills. You're getting back twelve sixty,

1013
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: not sixty, Umtree, sorry, twelve fifty. And I'm getting next

1014
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: year's number one. You're getting next year's number one. While

1015
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: I've said all along it would take four premium picks

1016
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: for me to move. I've said that all usually you wanted.

1017
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: I've presented to you this before, and you've always insisted

1018
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: on having another third rounder in there. Yes, when I've

1019
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: presented to you this, yes I have, Yes I have.

1020
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: I've insisted on getting another third round, which means I

1021
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: could be greedy and asked for it. It It doesn't mean

1022
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: I'll get it. No, But that's but that. That's not

1023
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: what that that's not the trade I'm offering you. And

1024
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: by the way, let me just made may be more specific.

1025
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: That would be pick fifty Okay, I was right, that

1026
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: would be picked fifty six. Excuse me, You'll be getting

1027
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: picked fifty six in the second. Can I get you

1028
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: to throw on a third rounder next year? That's this

1029
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: is the trade. Again, I said all along, I've said

1030
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: all along, four premium picks would do it. I could.

1031
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: I could see that, I could see doing it. Okay,

1032
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: So so you're in. If the Bills call up and

1033
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 1: they offer for number two, twelve, two and the two

1034
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen first round, pick your right. I'm not saying

1035
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: I do it because I don't know. I'm gonna get

1036
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: these guys for these guys, for these guys. I would

1037
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: do it. I'm fairly I don't know that I'm getting

1038
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: these guys, fairly confident you will get this group of players.

1039
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: I went through it. I looked at a lot of

1040
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: the mocks. I think you have a really good chance

1041
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: of getting these guys. I mean, I would do it

1042
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: for those guys that that's not the trade, though, this

1043
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: is the offer you can't refuse. I just did it

1044
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: for you. Would you do it? I offer you the trade.

1045
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm being I'm calling you. I'm gonna be gentlemen.

1046
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be George Jung, be ultra conservative and say

1047
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: no because I don't know that I'm going to get

1048
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: those guys. I think this is the no brainer of

1049
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: no brains. I don't think to do that trade in

1050
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: a mill a second. I like the value for those

1051
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: four guys I've given you that. I'm telling you. If

1052
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: it's those four guys, I can make that try because

1053
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: I've picks. There are there's two minutes left and the

1054
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: Giants selection a number two. You're sitting there, you have

1055
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: the card that says sa Kwon Barkley in your hand.

1056
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: You're waiting to call it in. I get on the

1057
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: phone with you, and I say, Paul, this is my

1058
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: final offer. You have ninety seconds to say yes before

1059
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: you have to submit that I'm offering you and my

1060
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: one next year. Do you say yes? The problem is,

1061
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: I've convinced myself over the last few weeks that no

1062
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 1: one will come up with the price. So I've sold

1063
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: myself on taking Barkley, and I've gotten comfortable with it.

1064
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: Now you're going back to what I've insisted for the

1065
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 1: previous two months, when I said the four premium picks

1066
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: would make the deal for me. You have never said

1067
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: yes to this deal to me before. I've offered to

1068
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: you before. You've never said yes. I'm asking you now

1069
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: with a minute to go on your pick with sake

1070
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: bark in your let's do it. You gotta deal. You

1071
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: got it. But but it's not gonna happen. I don't know.

1072
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: No one's kivin. No one's gonna back up the truck

1073
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: with four premium picks. It's not gonna happen. That's a minivan.

1074
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: That's not a truck. A truck has a fifth pick

1075
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: in there a truck a truck. They've given your real

1076
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: estate in Florida to go with it. You know, but

1077
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: the truck plus the Florida real estate, that's not gonna happen.

1078
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get that much. No one's gonna do it.

1079
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: These quarterbacks aren't that good. This is like the largest

1080
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: Toyota four by four that they have. I'm telling you,

1081
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: quarterback class isn't that good. Anybody who wants to give

1082
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: you that much. That's the truck. They're they're crazy to

1083
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: do that. But you gotta take advantage of people who

1084
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: are crazy, So you do it. Chris in Houston, all right,

1085
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: he's up next. Hey, Chris, what's going out town? I

1086
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: got faulled to say. Yes, I'm very happy. What's up? Crazy?

1087
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: I thank you? I'm happy to do it. The dude

1088
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: makes me crazy. What do you want? I make you? Dated?

1089
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: It tough to say. You did a lot of thing.

1090
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: That's why. Hey, here's the good news. Though, no quarterback,

1091
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: it's not happening. Go ahead, all right, First off with

1092
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: Davis Webb this week, So we don't pick a quarterback.

1093
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: Chris by the way, real quick, um, Paul is right?

1094
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: I was incorrect. Dave Dominic looked it up and it

1095
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: is according to Phase two rules on Mini camp this week.

1096
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: So I hate to tell you what that means. You're

1097
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: not gonna see anything with Davis Webb did you can't

1098
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: even do offense first defense drills and so guess what,

1099
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have any idea anyway, we lost him, Chris,

1100
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: Chris carterback up, I know we lost you. We'll put

1101
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: you right back on before the end of the show.

1102
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: Give us a call back on. Give give you a

1103
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: chance to make your point. So if somebody else calls in,

1104
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: Dave screen, the call ed in Rochester is next ed,

1105
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: what's going on? Hi, guys, great show. I'm I want

1106
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: to just call it really quickly. I'm in Paul's camp

1107
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: right now. If you guys seen the Russell Wilson special

1108
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: on ESPN Quarterback to running Back, I have not. I

1109
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: saw part of it. I caught the last end of it. Well,

1110
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: I for you guys and all our fans, you need

1111
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: to watch. And I'm in the Berkley camp big time

1112
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: after watching that young man interview on that program. He's

1113
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: very mature. I know what he does on the field. Yeah,

1114
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: and he's just he wants to be not only a

1115
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: face of our franchise, but he wants to be the

1116
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: face of a lead. He's well spoken, he's mature, He's

1117
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: what we need, regardless of trading down or whatever. I'm

1118
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm all in on it, and I think I want

1119
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: to tell all the fans if you haven't checked out

1120
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: the program, it's a really great interview with the young man. Yeah.

1121
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 1: I did see the last part of it, and he's

1122
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: very impressive. It's understandable why across the board so many

1123
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: people like him. Really in the last things, I got

1124
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: a quick take. There's no number twenty six currently on

1125
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: a roster for the fans out there on the rock

1126
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: from the research, So holding the uniform for there you go,

1127
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: have a good day. I appreciate the call. And Chris

1128
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: has called us back, so Dave, let's get Chris up.

1129
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: Welcome back. Sorry about that, Chris, Yeah, that was my fault.

1130
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: Sorry all uh, I'm agreeing with Paulie on a lot

1131
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: of things. I'm sorry, but a couple of quick quicks.

1132
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the pison to me as well. Okay, if

1133
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: we picked Barkley, I I really really don't want to

1134
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: pick Barkley at two. I really wish we could trade down.

1135
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 1: But if we picked Barkley at two, don't you think

1136
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: we have to get an offensive lineman at UH without

1137
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: second pick, and if so, what are the chances of

1138
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: Hernandez being there? Of course, here's what I'd say. I wish.

1139
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: I will never say you have to take a player

1140
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,479
Speaker 1: at a position because if all those guys get flushed out,

1141
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's going to happen. But if

1142
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: none of these players are available at the top of

1143
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: the second round, if Isaiah win Will, Hernandez, James Daniels,

1144
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: Billy Price, Connor, Will ms and Matt mc and Mike

1145
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: McGlinchey are all gone at the top of the second round,

1146
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's another offensive lineman for me

1147
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: worth selecting there, and I don't think that's going to be.

1148
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: That can't be. That means seven offensive lineman will have

1149
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: gone in the first Round's gonna think that's going to happen.

1150
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna say no matter what, because once

1151
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: I get past those seven, maybe Austin Corbett, I think

1152
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: about picking at that spot. Maybe, But if those six

1153
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: guys are gone and like Josh Jackson or Mike Huser

1154
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: sitting there, I have to think about the corner. But

1155
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: in general, I agree, if you pick Sae Kwon Barkley

1156
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: number two. You gotta get him the horses in the

1157
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 1: and the and the oxes and the bulls in front

1158
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: of him, the block for him. Otherwise the first pick

1159
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. So I happen to agree with you,

1160
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: but you gotta see he was on the board. You're

1161
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: mathematically speaking, the odds are very long that there will

1162
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: not be a valued old lineman at that number to pick.

1163
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: The odds are are very very long. Do you agree

1164
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: that it's those seven that of the guys that it's

1165
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: I mean, you could put ranking in there depending upon

1166
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: a right now, right now? Yeah, the center who who,

1167
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: by the way, can play guard. I wouldn't pick ranking

1168
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 1: top of the second round. I would consider I would

1169
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: consider doing right now. But you heard Tony Polite even

1170
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: talk about Crosby in the third. You know, maybe maybe

1171
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: I like Crosby. I like Crosby too. But O'Neill could

1172
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: be there in the third and you get two third

1173
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: round picks. Here's the thing. I would just want to

1174
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: say one other thing to you about this, this whole

1175
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: blocking thing. I would like to see them get too

1176
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in the first four picks. But if it

1177
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: does not happen. Okay, you know that they gotta be

1178
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: trying to do everything they can to coach up Wheeler.

1179
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: They gotta be. They gotta be hoping that John Grego

1180
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: can find the fountain of youth. They'll bring in some

1181
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: rookie free agents and hopefully they'll get some diamond in

1182
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: the rough from Maybe there'll be somebody out there who

1183
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: gets cut in a salary cap crunch in the next

1184
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: couple of months. Maybe they can always one of those

1185
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: kinds of guys. And then the other thing is too

1186
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: How about this, how about the Giants go back to

1187
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: a power offensive formation and decide they're going to use

1188
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: a fullback on a much more regular basis to provide

1189
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: that extra blocking in case their offensive line doesn't block

1190
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: well enough. Here's in the power running game. Here's the trick.

1191
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: And they could use Ellison, by the way, with a

1192
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: double tight end scheme with and and and and that

1193
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: was part of the plan. And then it didn't happen

1194
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: because a particular person in the in the in the

1195
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: mix of the offensive game plan, he didn't really do

1196
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: it that way. He was very very happy to use

1197
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: three wide receivers and flinging the ball down the field

1198
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: and it's Chris, real quick. I want to add to

1199
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: a post that real quick, Chris, and and then I

1200
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: promise I'll let you finish. Nacoan Broncoli has never run

1201
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: with a fullback. He ran exclusively out of the shotgun

1202
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: at Penn Station. I'm not sure if he can run

1203
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: with the fullback with this style. That's not the way

1204
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: he runs with the fullback. He runs much more single

1205
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: back bar style. You could use him as an age back. No,

1206
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: you could gets him out of out of the line

1207
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: of visions well, and in that case he used Red Elson.

1208
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: I got no problem with that. Again, that's something that

1209
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: I was pushing big time all last season and then

1210
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: suddenly the game plans didn't do that. And that's one

1211
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: of the reasons why we have changes. Great Chris Well.

1212
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: The last point is it's just and you guys have

1213
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: felt this too, but you just get nausea and odds

1214
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: just looking at the tapes over the past four or

1215
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: five years ever since and those guys retired, and it's

1216
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: just just to see us get pushed back. I just

1217
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: want muscle. I know it's not sexy, but I just

1218
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: want musclef Then I want to get a push, and

1219
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: I think if we get a push, we could do

1220
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: something good. Great. Thank you, Chris, appreciate the call with

1221
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: my friend. And look, we said this off SNE they

1222
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: had to add three offensive linemen and that could have

1223
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: included bringing back Pew and rich Burg. Okay, they got

1224
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: two of them, they got a Mommy, and they got

1225
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: solder one left. Got got to get at least one,

1226
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: Gotta get at least one more. I would not have

1227
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: a problem with two. Paul, You'll be on with Lance tomorrow, Yes,

1228
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: Sir Jeff Risden from Real GM will join us. That's

1229
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: always fun. And then Lance and I on Wednesday, and

1230
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: Lance and fiegals on Thursday. You can tune into the

1231
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: MSG Networks on Thursday night for Giants Draft Night Live.

1232
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: Well have coverage of the Giants Draft pick. Then bbcame

1233
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: returns on Friday afternoon with Paul and I, and then

1234
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 1: it'll be with you Friday night and Saturday afternoon. By

1235
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: the end of Saturday, you're gonna want to kill us.

1236
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: You'll be sick of here on our voices. So but

1237
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 1: we appreciate if you tune in and check that in listen.

1238
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: Dave wants to kill us now that's okay. Thanks for

1239
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: joining us, everybody. Because I won't see the Giant stock,

1240
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: I remember many camp begins tomorrow as well. Stay tuned

1241
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: to giants dot com for coverage to that we'll see tomorrow.

1242
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: Take care of everybody,