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Speaker 1: betting show that makes it square. Sharper makes the wise

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Speaker 1: guys pay attention all season and off season long. I

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Speaker 1: am Shad moment. I am joined by my co host,

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Speaker 1: my bff, my companion, my compadre professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, Simone.

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Speaker 2: I felt like we had what two three week loll

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Speaker 2: there and now we're right back in the thick of it.

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Speaker 2: Feels like with the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Brother, dude, there is no rest for the wicked in

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Speaker 1: the NFL season. You're you got a nice little new

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Speaker 2: Yep, I got I got a new studio, and I

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Speaker 2: got all my collectors behind me on my one piece

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Speaker 1: Yeah. People always forget about your deep, deep investment in

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Speaker 1: not just football signmon, not just football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would say I'm someone that's always looking

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Speaker 2: for another option than cash. Chad knows this. I'm a

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Speaker 2: my whole life, I've done it. And yeah, being very

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Speaker 2: you know, I just like having assets, and yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: Longtime writer for ESPN, veteran sports media personality, an originator

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Speaker 1: The article I'm talking about NFL free agency Winners and

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Speaker 1: of the page. Right now, host of the Bill Barnwell Show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back Bill Barnwell BB from Queens. How you doing chat?

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Speaker 3: How are you Simon? I have not delved in the

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Speaker 1: Apple Pods, Spotify, wherever you get your pods. Bill, let's

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Speaker 3: from watching all those games says he has a lot

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Speaker 3: of pressures, let me go to the pressure source I

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Speaker 3: trust most. Let me see where he ranks. Oh, you

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Speaker 3: rex pretty well, great, we are good. I don't need

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Speaker 3: to look for anything else. If I look for I

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Speaker 3: don't out the way I figured. I'd go back and say, say, okay, well,

436
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Speaker 3: maybe it's just not accurately capturing what I saw. Did

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Speaker 3: I not see enough of a sample? You know, I

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Speaker 3: haven't watched every single play, but I've watched every third down,

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Speaker 3: I've watched every pressure, I've watched every you know, pass

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Speaker 3: attempt over the course of the season. So I've seen

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Speaker 3: a lot of stuff. So sometimes the numbers don't agree

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Speaker 3: with me, and I say, okay, well, maybe my opinion

443
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Speaker 3: is wrong, or maybe my evidence is wrong, or maybe

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Speaker 3: there's something in the data that I need to account

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Speaker 3: for more accurately. I'll give you a good example. The

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Speaker 3: Packers traded for Rashan Gary yesterday, and I was like, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, okay player, Like, like, you know, the price

448
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Speaker 3: tag a little higher than I would have hoped for,

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Speaker 3: but like solid numbers against the past rush I've seen

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Speaker 3: him make some play this year. When I look back

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Speaker 3: at his pressure numbers, they weren't very good. Like it's

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Speaker 3: sort of like it maybe leaned down a bit versus

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Speaker 3: where my expectations were when I looked at that trade

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Speaker 3: to begin with. So, you know, I think I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to use numbers to have evidence, and I'm not using

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Speaker 3: the numbers to like distort what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to just blow people's minds with crazy numbers.

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Speaker 3: I think you have to put everything in context.

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Speaker 2: But like the.

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Speaker 3: Reality is, I'm not a former player, i am not

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Speaker 3: a former coach. If I'm going to say something, I

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Speaker 3: have to have evidence for what I say. And so

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Speaker 3: some of that evidence is anecdotal, it's big picture watching games,

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Speaker 3: and some of it is using data that I trust

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Speaker 3: to reinforce that, Okay, this thing I saw actually is

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Speaker 3: real and accurate.

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Speaker 1: How often do you get calls from scouts, GMS personnel

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Speaker 1: people to either yell at you because they disagree or

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Speaker 1: tell you like, yeah, you're totally nailing it.

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Speaker 3: I got one during our taping, so just now, yeah,

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Speaker 3: just once every half hour. So during the during the

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Speaker 3: first few days of free agency, people have a little

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Speaker 3: bit of free time and they read stuff and want

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Speaker 3: to yell at me or it's one actually was more complimentary.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, give me the context. Did this person.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what this person said, you know, tell me

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Speaker 1: it was.

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Speaker 3: I We'm not going to reveal what I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: off the air what the person said, but I'll just

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Speaker 3: say it was. Very Rarely, once in a while, I

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Speaker 3: get something wrong and so I look at people saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: like you didn't consider this, or maybe you didn't realize

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Speaker 3: this was the case, and that's that's meaningful and valuable.

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Speaker 3: But usually it's more like if it's something they don't like,

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Speaker 3: it's usually a thoughtful hey, this is what we were thinking.

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Speaker 3: This is why it made sense to us. Sometimes with

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Speaker 3: some teams there's there's just straight up anger, like how

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Speaker 3: could you even consider this? But usually it's complimentary. Usually

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Speaker 3: it's like yeah, glad you saw that. Yeah that makes sense,

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Speaker 3: or someone saying, oh, we didn't know why this team

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Speaker 3: did this, and it actually made sense when you put

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Speaker 3: it in context for me. So it really is more

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Speaker 3: it's not as like dramatic they say, what's Every year,

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Speaker 3: I get like a really angry executive calling me, and

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Speaker 3: that's usually a fun hour where I sit there and

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Speaker 3: just sort of like talk them down from whatever they

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Speaker 3: want to vented me. But usually it's pretty positive. I

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Speaker 3: will say, people generally like people who seek me out,

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Speaker 3: who have my number, who are trying to get in

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Speaker 3: touch with me usually are more like minded than you

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Speaker 3: might think.

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Speaker 2: Well, I gotta know, are these teams reaching out to

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Speaker 2: my two favorite moves so far this year I've been

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Speaker 2: done by the Rams. I love what the Rams have

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Speaker 2: done in this freegency. I would love are you getting

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Speaker 2: text from people asking you or compting about what are

507
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs doing? This is not the Chiefs were used

508
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Speaker 2: to going out and paying are running back that is

509
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Speaker 2: not worthy of that money? In my opinion, I know

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Speaker 2: they have the same number as I do, and it

511
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Speaker 2: is the most desperate, bizarre move by a Chiefs organization

512
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Speaker 2: that seems so smart calculating all their moves. Our teams

513
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Speaker 2: around the league texting you being like laughing about are

514
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Speaker 2: they all saying, oh, this is a good move. What

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Speaker 2: are teams saying about the Chiefs? Because I in my

516
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: circles a lot of guys raising eyebrows. It's like something's

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Speaker 2: different about the Chiefs organization they've been in the past. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a good question.

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Speaker 3: I do find that certain teams get the benefit of

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Speaker 3: the doubt, you know, like when when the Patriots were

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Speaker 3: rolling with Belichick. I remember even publicly, you'd hear about,

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Speaker 3: you know, when the Patriots like, what would suggest a

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Speaker 3: rule change, people wouldn't want to vote for it because

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Speaker 3: they were like, Oh, Belichick knows something we don't. He's

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Speaker 3: going to break something that we don't realize. I'm not

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Speaker 3: voting for that. I'm not giving Belichick anything, even if

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Speaker 3: it was like a totally innocuous rule change. The Chiefs

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Speaker 3: don't have that sort of like hold over people, but

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Speaker 3: there is an element of like people talk themselves into

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Speaker 3: it when it comes to a lot of what the

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Speaker 3: Chiefs do. Like I'll give you an example, trading Tyreek

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Speaker 3: Hill a couple of years ago. There were definitely people

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Speaker 3: who would have you know, I think if it had

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Speaker 3: been a different team said, hey, what are they thinking?

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Speaker 3: These are the Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes's top receiver is gone.

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Speaker 3: He's in the prime of his career. We're in win

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Speaker 3: now mode. You're trading him for draft picks, like you

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Speaker 3: don't even know who's going to be catching the ball

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Speaker 3: for you next year. And that worked out, okay. I

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Speaker 3: Mean there wasn't like Terry Hill was bad in Miami.

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Speaker 3: He was a superstar for two years, but all things

542
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Speaker 3: being equal, just won two Super Bowls after that. Traine,

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Speaker 3: I think it worked. You know, they're not perfect. They

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Speaker 3: don't hit a hundred. I understand why they made this

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Speaker 3: move for Kenneth Walker. To me, it's about explosive plays.

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Speaker 3: They were just not generating anything explosive in their run game,

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Speaker 3: and Kenneth Walker is someone who has his limitations. Not

548
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Speaker 3: a great receiver, not a great pass bocker, but does

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Speaker 3: create a lot of explosive plays, chunk plays in the

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Speaker 3: run game. Who's gonna see a lot of light boxes.

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Speaker 3: Based on what Kansas City season defense, Could they have

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Speaker 3: gotten that for less money by signing Kenny Gainwell or

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Speaker 3: signing ric O'Donnell. I do think so, But I guess

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Speaker 3: the thing that I would based on My concern was

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Speaker 3: that they were gonna draft Jeremiah Love at nine, and

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah is going to be a good player, But the

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Speaker 3: opportunity cost of taking a running back at nine when

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Speaker 3: you have other positions that are much harder to fill

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Speaker 3: that you're going to finally get a chance to address

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Speaker 3: in the top ten of the draft, whether that be

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Speaker 3: edg Rusher, whether that be tackle, whether that be wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: whether it be cornerback, which they have a huge need

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Speaker 3: for now with the Rams, like you mentioned sid getting

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Speaker 3: Kansas City's two best corners away via trade and via

565
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Speaker 3: free agency, you have to take that shot on those guys.

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Speaker 3: Then you just cannot afford to take a running back.

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Speaker 2: In the first round.

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Speaker 3: We saw them do with clyde Erwards Hilaire and everyone

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Speaker 3: loved it. I loved it, scouts loved it. It was

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Speaker 3: a great move. And then Jonathan Taylor was off the

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Speaker 3: board in the second round and t Higgins was the

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Speaker 3: next player taken, and that would have been a much

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Speaker 3: more valuable player for them over the ensuing five years,

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Speaker 3: receiver at the time. And so all of this goes

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Speaker 3: to say people are generally respectful. There's like there's a

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Speaker 3: like would lead to if this were a different team,

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Speaker 3: I think there'd be more criticism. But I think in

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Speaker 2: It wasn't.

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Speaker 3: I did not like was actually good.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, interesting. Okay, why can't you tell us that that's Oh,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to name the team that you wrote

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Speaker 1: about that's involved, got it right? I can respect that,

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Speaker 1: a Capitol j journalist to try to get to the

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Speaker 1: bottom of this truth. Give me your most improved teams

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Speaker 1: because look, a lot of these season win totals haven't

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Speaker 1: moved off a free agency in the first twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: So Simon just mentioned the Rams, who are your most

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Speaker 1: improved teams right now, including the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 3: I would throw the Rams out there. I love what

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Speaker 3: they did. I mean it was attacking their biggest need

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Speaker 3: outside of kicker. Kicker is their biggest need. But by

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Speaker 3: the way, would you guys not be impressed if the

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Speaker 3: Rams offered Harrison or not Harrison Bucker, Brendan Aubrey excuse me,

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Speaker 3: very similar names in terms of like if they offered

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Speaker 3: Brendan Aubrey ten million dollars a year and dare at

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys to match a second round pick.

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Speaker 2: Love it.

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Speaker 1: But by the way, you talk about Benford of the doubt,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about benefit of doubt less Snead would get

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Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. That that is a brilliant move,

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Speaker 1: right If if the Browns did it, they'd be like God,

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Speaker 1: the fucking Browns.

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Speaker 3: Idiots, no question. But their two biggest weaknesses were in

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Speaker 3: the kicking game, on special teams and at quarnerback. When

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Speaker 3: they lost games. Last year, they lost to the Eagles,

645
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: They lost to the Carolina Panthers, who we mentioned earlier.

646
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: They lost to the Seahawks in the NFC Championship game.

647
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: They could not stop bigger receivers.

648
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: They were.

649
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: They a great defensive line, young, cheap, super talented, They

650
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: have good safeties. They brought back Cam Curl, which I

651
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: like they were just getting by all your cornerback. It

652
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: was one of those cases where people like me looked

653
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: at the roster in September and said, if they fail,

654
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: it's gonna be because of this, and not always right,

655
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: but this was a case where it was because that

656
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: was what cost them in the biggest games, and so

657
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: I love what they did. They addressed cornerback, the trade,

658
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: the late first round pick. We know le Steed hates

659
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: late first round picks. He loves other picks. I know

660
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: that there's the famous uh okay, I say this in

661
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: a Disney friendly way to heck with those picks. Attitude

662
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 3: towards uh from Lestie. But that's towards the gay bottom part.

663
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: We am were you're you're on a Colin Cowhard platform.

664
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: He's he's a wild card.

665
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: I I am very reserved.

666
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Yes of course.

667
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: But but you're talking about a Rams team that needed

668
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: to get cornerback better immediately, because unlike other teams where

669
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: you hear about the Ravens being in win now mode

670
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: when they trade for Max Crosby, the Rams actually are

671
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: in win now mode. There is no solution of quarnerback

672
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: beyond Matthew Stafford, who knows the Sean McVay is going

673
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: to be there when Stafford retires. He's been rumored to

674
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: go to the media. I'm sure he has like a

675
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: you know, a thirty million dollar a year job lined

676
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: up the moment he decides to retire, and he's gonna

677
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: be very good at that. But they need to fix cornerback,

678
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 3: and so getting Trent McDuffie, who's gonna be the perfect

679
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: fit for what they need playing inside on that side,

680
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 3: blitzing playing near the line of scrimmage is a great fit.

681
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 3: And then Jalen Watson giving one touchdown over the last

682
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 3: two years at cornerback and again a very achieve plays

683
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: a lot of man forces you to cover against exotic

684
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: blitzz that forces you to play in a lot of

685
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: sub packages. That's what the Rams want to do. They

686
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: played dime four times the league average rate. Last year,

687
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: they played dime more than anybody else in football, and

688
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: they would have played it more if they had defensive

689
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 3: backs and cornerbacks specifically they felt good about. Now they

690
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: can live in that world. They can play five six

691
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: defensive backs all the time, the way the Seahawks did

692
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: on their way to the Super Bowl. They can play

693
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: coverage behind those great front four. They can run all

694
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 3: the exotic blitzer and sim pressures they want. That feels

695
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: like just the perfect fit for what the Rams needed.

696
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: And then I'll give you another one. I will not

697
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: go far from Los Angeles. I will go to Las Vegas,

698
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 3: where the last Vegas Raiders did spend a lot of money.

699
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: And like the economist in me, I'm not a trained economist,

700
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 3: but the economist in me knows and paying Tyler Linderbaum

701
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: fifty percent more per year than any center in NFL

702
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 3: history is too much money. But that's not my problem.

703
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: I'm not paying the money. They don't have a significant

704
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: opportunity cost because they have a ton of money to spend.

705
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: They're gonna have a quarterback, the first overall pick, presumably

706
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: in Fernando Mendoza, who needs help their offensive line on

707
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: the interior was a mess last year, and you're bringing

708
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: in a guy who is gonna help you in all

709
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: facets of the game. He's gonna help your quarterback in protection.

710
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: He's good, a pretty good, I think, an underrated one

711
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: on one pass blocker at center. Next Gen stats with

712
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: him as like one of the best of one to

713
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: one blockers at center in all of football last year,

714
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: and he's a great piece in the run game. Klint

715
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: Kubiak plays, as we saw at Seattle, a very zone heavy,

716
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: moving the interior. Ligneman a lot of screens. You need

717
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 3: mobile interior alignment for that offense that scheme to work,

718
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: and Linderbom is a great fit there. On defense, they

719
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 3: brought back Eric Stokes, so I think was really good

720
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: last year behind a very bad pass rush Kway Walker

721
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 3: Nikobe Dean much improves at a linebacker. Some guys who

722
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: can blitz, who can play in coverage. There's still work

723
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: to be done. I didn't love signing Jillen Naylor for

724
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: more than ten million dollars eleven million dollars a year.

725
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: They still need another wide receiver. I thought they might

726
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: make a run at Mike Evans, who ended up going,

727
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: of course to the Niners. They still need pieces up front.

728
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: They just lost Max Crosby, who's pretty darn good. But

729
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: there's a much more realistic sense to what can we

730
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: do to get better quickly logically, and they have those

731
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: two first round picks, which is gonna go a long

732
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: way Simon.

733
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: The Rams right now are plus seven to seventy five

734
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. They have the shortest odds

735
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: other than the Seahawks. The Raiders are one hundred and

736
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: fifty to one to win the Super Bowl. Well, I'm

737
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: not saying the Raiders can win the Super Bowl, but

738
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: I do love what the Raiders have done, not just

739
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: in and also they get Colton millerback, who was an

740
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: excellent offensive lineman and when he went down that really

741
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: changed the trajectory of their team. I think they're putting

742
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: together a team that will support Fernando Mendoza. But also

743
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: Klint Kubiak like, how often do we see these teams

744
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: hire a coach and then not give them any pieces

745
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: that are helpful to what they like to do. The

746
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: Jets never give their coaches help, right, You got to

747
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: admire a little bit of what the Raiders are doing here.

748
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: Love that organizationally, it just shows that you know, they

749
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 2: missed last year, right Pete Gino, huge swing, huge miss.

750
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: They'll always have that Week one against the Patriots that

751
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: was that was their super Bowl. But to me, I

752
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: love all these I already knew me and you were

753
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: probably gonna be on there over five and a half

754
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 2: at hard Rock. But I look at all these lines

755
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: and I just think to myself, Okay, we have a

756
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: quarterback we love, that's a winner. We have an offensive

757
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: mind that seems like he's pretty smart, like caters to

758
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: his guys' strengths, of voys the weaknesses. And then you

759
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: see what they've done in the offseason, attack in that

760
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: offensive line, attacking the defense, which was to me a

761
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 2: lost cause it's like this, this defense is gonna take

762
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,919
Speaker 2: three years to fix, not an offseason. So that's still

763
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: gonna be a major weakness. But Brenana Mendoza a winner

764
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: with that team. I can talk myself into them getting

765
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 2: a couple wins here in this division that everyone's so on,

766
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: the Chargers, so on, the Chiefs so on. You know

767
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: what could possibly be another great year from Denver. No

768
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: one's gonna be thinking about this Vegas team so I

769
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: do think. I like what Bills take is like it's

770
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: a they're a sneaky team, where yes, they've overpaid for guys,

771
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 2: but like Bill said, it's the guys you want to

772
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: overpay with the center with a young quarterback, that's my

773
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: dream scenario. Pay that man that money. I know Bill

774
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: agrees with that, but I just the Jason Kelcey, what

775
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: he did for Hurtz. And you've heard all these other

776
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: quarterbacks talk about how important the center is that can

777
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: call what the what they're going to do, all on

778
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: the offensive line. It's just massive. So I love that

779
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: tick from Bill.

780
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say when when you see teams make

781
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: a significant leap, the two things that almost always change

782
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 3: are upgraded quarterback, upgrade a head coach. The Raiders could

783
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: make that case. The only problem is I was sitting

784
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: here a year ago and saying, yeah, I think the

785
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: Raiders are going to be better because they upgraded a

786
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 3: quarterback and upgraded the head coach. And it turned out

787
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: they did not upgrade a quarterback or upgraded a head coach.

788
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: Who are And by the way, Bill, your breakdown in

789
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: the column today about the salaries for centers and the

790
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: decision matrix that the Ravens went through for Linderbaum when

791
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: his option came up, and how the market has just

792
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: exploded was great. But I'm I'm surprised they didn't. I'm

793
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: surprised they didn't do it last year when it's become

794
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: so clear how important the center is. Like, as a

795
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: Bears fan, I'm freaking out that Drew Dollman retired, right

796
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: And like, I know, that's not on anyone's radar and

797
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: it was a one day blip of a story. But

798
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now, the text chain that

799
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: is going on between me and my kid about Drew

800
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: Dolmen is intense because the centers, because of Jason Kelcey,

801
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: have been elevated in importance.

802
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it is a legitimately important position and

803
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: it's just making your young quarterbacks life easier. I just

804
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: think about Mahomes who had as a consenter's his entire career,

805
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: most recently Creed Humphrey, who's the highest paid center in football.

806
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: Like you said, not anymore.

807
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: Not anymore, but he was for a long was for

808
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 3: a couple of years. It's just like, and you think

809
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: about some guys who have struggled, who have not had

810
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 3: great centers. To Jay Stroud has not ever really developed

811
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 3: beyond what he was as a rookie, even though I

812
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: think he's an awesome player, because they have had different

813
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: centers and not very good centers each season for him

814
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 3: in Houston. It really is a I think it's something

815
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: that has been underrated when it comes to evaluating players.

816
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 3: I think it's not true for every team. Like I

817
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: think it's nice for Tom Brady to have a good center,

818
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: but like Tom Brady was able to set his own protections,

819
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: reset them, get the ball out quick, redefenses like not

820
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: that young quarterbacks can't do that. It's just tougher. And

821
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: so I do believe this is a position that was

822
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 3: probably underpaid for a while.

823
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: And we'll see.

824
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: Other teams might say, hey, this is a contract that

825
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: we're not gonna match. But I think a lot of

826
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: guys are gonna get paid based off of what Linderbaum

827
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: just got from the Raiders.

828
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree this. I mean, it's you don't

829
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: overpay for center. Few of Matthew Stafford, right, you overpay

830
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 2: him if you've got a young quarterback. That's that to

831
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: me is nail on the head. And you know, I

832
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: don't want to be the negative. God, we do need

833
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: to get the teams that didn't make any moves, who

834
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 2: was least improved. And you know, me and Chad joked

835
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: back going back five years, I wondered what my Eagles

836
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: team just did. They didn't make a single move. That's

837
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: the dream. That means you've drafted really well, you're paying

838
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 2: in house. That's where you want to be in life.

839
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: But we saw last year New England biggest spender out

840
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: of every team in the off season. They made two

841
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: Super Bowl So now people are a little torn because

842
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, the cap has moved so much nowadays,

843
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: you do want to spend the offseason, but there's a balance,

844
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: right If you're not paying your own homegrown guys, you

845
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: are missing out. So am I am I over thinking

846
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: of the Eagles missing out right now because they've made

847
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: zero moves and they do need pieces, right, they need

848
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: a tight end. They need to do something. But how

849
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: he's being very patient.

850
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: I would give them an incomplete. I mean when I

851
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: used to do grades for ESPN when it came to

852
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 3: free agency, and the first eight grades, I'm not gonna

853
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: lie always a little more negative than people thought. Because

854
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: those moves typically do not work out. I mean, it's

855
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: just a really low hit rate for for moves on

856
00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: the on the first day, the first sort of third

857
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: six hours of free agency. So it's incomplete. Because if

858
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: we're sitting here a month from now and they have

859
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: not done anything, that to me is a problem. They

860
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 3: have pieces they need to add. They could add another

861
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 3: outside corner back. They're gonna have to Ad Campbell takeover

862
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: for Ni Kobe Dean. But that defensive line was not

863
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: as deep last year as it wasn't years past. Now

864
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: they've lost Dylan Phillips, They've lost Brandon Graham to retirement.

865
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to rebuild a little bit of their

866
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: depth along the defensive line. Maybe let's sign Trey Hendrickson.

867
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: Will be sitting here saying, well, Eagles made a big

868
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: splash and just waited a day to do it. But

869
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: I do think they're in a good spot. I mean,

870
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: like you said, Jordan Davis, they signed to an extension,

871
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: They're gonna have Jyllan Carter coming to do for an extension.

872
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 3: We don't know what's gonna happen with AJ Brown. Obviously,

873
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: that could stretch all the way until the summer. I

874
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: still think he's gonna stay in the big picture, so

875
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 3: that to me is an incomplete grade. I would say

876
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: a team that I think has negatively harmed themselves is

877
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens, where I know they traded for Max Crosby.

878
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 3: Max Crosby is an awesome football player, but they trade

879
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: two first round picks to get Max Crosby as he

880
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 3: approaches his age twenty nine season, He's still going to

881
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: be a good player. But you're not like the Rams

882
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: trading for guys as they're entering their peak or for

883
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 3: a quarterback. We just haven't seen teams give up that

884
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: much for guys at this point of their careers in

885
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: a very long time. That's just not a trade we

886
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: have seen. The Ravens needed edge rusher help. They struck

887
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: out in some of their guys. They traded at Al Fayoway,

888
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: who signed elsewhere in free agency after we got traded

889
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 3: to the Chargers. But that team now is missing two

890
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: first round picks. They lost a bunch of valuable pieces. Yesterday.

891
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: They lost Isaiah Likely Draymond Jones, who was starting on

892
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: the edge for them, A Lohi Gilman who really helped

893
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: them after he came over. It's safety, and you just

894
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 3: don't have as many pieces to resolve those missing holes

895
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: in the roster. And I think I look at that

896
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: team when I think, Okay, they draft really well usually,

897
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 3: but now you're missing your two top picks. You can't

898
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 3: trade down out of the first round. You're not getting

899
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: those Kyle Hamilton caliber pieces in the first round who

900
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: are going to be your incredible surplus value options. They're

901
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: going to have to hit on all of those second, third, fourth,

902
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 3: fifth round picks or a lot of them. You can

903
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: do that, but do you have a quarterback making as

904
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: much as Lamar Jackson's gonna make on his new deal,

905
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 3: as much as Max Crosby's making, as Kyle Hamilton, ropequand

906
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: Smith Rodney Stanley's making.

907
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: They have a really.

908
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: Expensive top four, top five, top six on that roster

909
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 3: and a lot of guys who unfortunately have significant injury

910
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: histories over the last few years, and so it feels

911
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 3: very tenuous to me. It feels like they're going to

912
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 3: be very top heavy, and that's just not a good

913
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 3: place to be. You really have to get everything right

914
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: to win with that formula. And I don't know if

915
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen.

916
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: For the Baltimore You Simon before, actually you mentioned CJ. Stroud,

917
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: and you also noted in the column in terms of

918
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: teams that did not do them out any favor and

919
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: do themselves any favors, the Houston Texas are one of them.

920
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: Explain yourself.

921
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you guys watched the postseason

922
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 3: game where c J. Stroud got the heck beat out

923
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: of him by the Patriots in the snow. The Texans

924
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: saw that, and we're like, yeah, we're good. Yeah, back

925
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: pretty much with these dudes, I felt like we were

926
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: on the good spot. I mean, they trade away Titus Howard,

927
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 3: who had passed, played some right tackle, played left guard.

928
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: Was expensive. I think he wants to play right tackle,

929
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: and I don't think Heuston wants to play him in

930
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: right tackle. But you're down one lineman. You trade Jew Scruggs,

931
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: who has not worked out as a second round pick. Okay,

932
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 3: you're down another offensive lineman. You bring back Ed Ingram,

933
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 3: who was a okay run blocker last year, not a

934
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: good pass bocker. One thing to bring him back and

935
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: pay him a couple million dollars the way they did

936
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 3: last year, in the final year of his deal, they

937
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: give him thirteen million dollars a year or so on

938
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 3: a contract they used signed Trent Brown, who was a

939
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 3: good player when he's healthy, but he's missed significant time

940
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 3: pretty much every single year since he won the Super

941
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: Bowl at the Patriots. And he's getting up to seven

942
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 3: million dollars. The money's not a big conservative were just

943
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: they're putting him in and saying, Okay, you're gonna be

944
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: our right tackle. We're gonna count on you. I know

945
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 3: they have the draft still to come, but they trade

946
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: a fourth round pick for David Montgomery, who's going from

947
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: one of the best situations for running back in football

948
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 3: to one of the worst situations in football. It just

949
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: feels like they're shopping in the wrong order. They're getting

950
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: the running back first when you should be getting the

951
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: running back last, and fixing the line first, and so

952
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: it just feels like there's last year they decided to

953
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: fix the offensive line by shaking everything up, trading way

954
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: Larramy Tunsil, moving everybody around, drafting a bunch of guys,

955
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: acquiring a bunch of guys. Nothing wrong with that. I

956
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 3: could see the logic and doing most of that. Now

957
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: it feels like that didn't work, So our new solution

958
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: is just to keep everything pretty much back in place

959
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: and just kind of get your continuity. It just feels

960
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: like they're like min maxing these strategies. Doesn't feel like

961
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 3: there's any real long term vision to how to build

962
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 3: the infrastructure around CJ. Stroud And now CJ. Strowd's gonna

963
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 3: get expensive. Ja Strowd is eligible for a new deal,

964
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: and I would bet his agent's going to be asking,

965
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: even though he played poorly last year for a contract

966
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 3: that starts with a six for sixty million dollars plus

967
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 3: a season. Well, Anderson, who is awesome, one of the

968
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: best player in football, is going to get a new deal.

969
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 3: He's going to be the highest paid at rusher, highest

970
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 3: paid defender in football when he signed to do contract

971
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: that's going to be forty five million dollars a year

972
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: or more.

973
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: So.

974
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 3: Now, if you can't win or can't build a great team,

975
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 3: when CJ. Startle, Will Anderson are making fifteen million dollars

976
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 3: a year, how are you gonna do that? When they're

977
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: making one hundred and five million dollars a year, which

978
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: is where they're gonna be as early as twenty twenty.

979
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: Six along these lines. Not that we like to be

980
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: negative because I'm irrationally optimistic, but what's signing to you

981
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 1: has been the most desperate signing.

982
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: I'll go Tennessee. Where I like Tennessee. This year, I

983
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: think cam Ward was sort of like you're one Drake

984
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: Mayish in a lot of ways where you watch the

985
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 3: tape and you're like, man, this dude is getting no help,

986
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: but there's so much fun stuff. He's hidden throws, he's

987
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 3: making plays. I think he's really good. But they needed

988
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: to add help for cam Ward this offseason, and Brian

989
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 3: Dabele was like, guys, I know exactly the place to go.

990
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: The New York Giants. We're gonna run it back. We're

991
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: gonna go to Tennessee. A lot of people move from

992
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: New York to the South as they get older. They

993
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 3: want to be in warmer weather. I understand nothing wrong

994
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: with that, but Wandell Robinson is like kind of a

995
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: gadget player. Jam Mary d k was a gadget player

996
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: for Tennessee last year. It's kind of marginalizing one of

997
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 3: your more exciting young players from last year's roster, which

998
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: they did not have very many of Unfortunately, they signed

999
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: Daniel Bellinger. Okay, you did a blocking tight end. He's okay,

1000
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: Dan to one of the worst run games in football

1001
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 3: when he was there. They pay him eight million dollars

1002
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 3: a year. I mean, you really needed to get a

1003
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 3: Day one blocking tight end just because he knew Brian

1004
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: Dabeles scene. He couldn't have waited for one of the

1005
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 3: eighty four other blocking tight ends. We were gonna make

1006
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: a million or two million dollars a couple weeks from

1007
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: now to get that deal done. It just felt very

1008
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: It felt like they knew we needed to add something,

1009
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 3: but they added pieces that good teams develop, where they

1010
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: find a catch a guy in the on Day three

1011
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 3: of the draft, the way that that d game might

1012
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: have been. They find blocking tight ends in the draft

1013
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 3: or in frenency for a couple million dollars. Tennessee paid

1014
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: a premium to add those guys, and I don't think

1015
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: they've really solved anything. They still need a receiving tight end,

1016
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 3: they still need a running back who they trust in

1017
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: pass protection. They still need a number one wide receiver,

1018
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: and maybe they get Jeremiah up, maybe that solves one

1019
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: of their problems. I hope it does, but they just

1020
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 3: it feels like they didn't really solve anything and spent

1021
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars a year in the process.

1022
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: You don't know, Oh yeah, go ahead, So I go

1023
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 2: with Pittsburgh. I don't really get. I just I don't

1024
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: know who they are anymore. Chad. It's it's like you've

1025
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: been in love for ten years with a woman and

1026
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: then you wake up one day you just don't know

1027
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: who she is anymore. That's how I feel about Pittsburgh.

1028
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: They are not who they used to be. They used

1029
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: to pay guys in house. Now they're going out and

1030
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 2: signing a second receiver. The whole thing is so bizarre.

1031
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: Maybe they know they're getting Rogers back, but I didn't

1032
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: understand that signing, like they're you know, they're paying a

1033
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: linebacker they didn't really need, you know. It's I had

1034
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: a lot of questions about Pittsburgh and the Colts. I'm

1035
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: totally lost with them, and they they put themselves at

1036
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: a corner now where Daniel Jones is asking for real

1037
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: money even though he's not a real quarterback there he

1038
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 2: had eight good games and he's looking for fifteen million

1039
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: a year. Where if I am them. If they had

1040
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: a real owner, they would step in and they would say,

1041
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 2: we're going Kyler one point five million and roll the dice.

1042
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: I would much rather that than committing three years fifteen

1043
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: million per year to Daniel Jones. I could not believe

1044
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones' agency's asking for that money. I feel bad

1045
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: for the Colts. They're totally stuck, and I'll give you

1046
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: one sleeper team. I actually loved that. No one's giving

1047
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: any love out there. I need to give a little

1048
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: love to them, because Chad knows. I basically went scorch

1049
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: earth on this organization, Arizona Cardinals. I basically said they

1050
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 2: should fold up. They shouldn't finish that last year. After

1051
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: that embarrassing with lost of Tennessee, the owner listened to

1052
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: me and all the fans, he is burning it all down.

1053
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: That's what they need to do. They need to burn

1054
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: it all down. I know people are like, well, they

1055
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: signed Minshew, I think, and they're gonna roll Brissett at

1056
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 2: the quarterback again. Yes, that is exactly what you want.

1057
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 2: In that division. You are five years behind every team

1058
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: of your division. You were in the hardest division of football.

1059
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 2: You need to do what Arizona did, so I am

1060
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: so happy Arizona is going this route because you know,

1061
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: if Manning is that guy Manning has a great year

1062
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 2: and he's gonna be a number one pick, Arizona set

1063
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: themselves right up for that. Them and the Jets are

1064
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: trying to set themselves up for that Banning Whoever's gonna

1065
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: be a number one pick. And I think Arizona right

1066
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: now is the lead start because I think the Jets

1067
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: are just a very still I'm scale stub called Jets

1068
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: an organization. I know what they're really doing. Arizona, I

1069
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Speaker 2: know exactly what they're doing right now. They are all

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Speaker 2: in I'll get to that number one pick and restarting this.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll give a little bit of love Arizona

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Speaker 2: not taking the over four and a half, that's definitely

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Speaker 2: an underlook. But yeah, that that to me is a

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Speaker 2: team that no one's talking about them because theydn't do much.

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Speaker 2: But I love the full on tank by them. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like what the Cardinals did. I think they're in

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Speaker 3: a good spot. Like you said, for many of the

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Speaker 3: reasons that you suggested. The Steelers, it just feels like

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Speaker 3: they have a very deluded idea of where they stand

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Speaker 3: and what they need to be. The way I described

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Speaker 3: them a couple of weeks ago, was incurious about baking

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Speaker 3: it past the opening round of the playoffs. No, everyone

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Speaker 3: else is trying to win a Super Bowl, or I

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Speaker 3: guess the Cardinals are trying to get art manding. The

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Speaker 3: Steelers are trying to make it to the postseason and

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Speaker 3: don't care about anything else once they get there. And

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Speaker 3: so when you look at their moves from that lens,

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Speaker 3: it makes sense you trade for Michael Pittman, who's basically

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Speaker 3: a salary dump for the Colts when they signed Alec Pierce. Well,

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Speaker 3: Michael Pittman's averaged like ten yards a reception over the

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Speaker 3: last few years. That is perfect for the Steelers. That's

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Speaker 3: exactly what Aaron Rodgers wants to do. Get the ball out, quick,

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Speaker 3: throw screens, throw slants, don't get hit, move on, have

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Speaker 3: a nice day. They sided good player, not a question

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Speaker 3: about adding a good player. But they have signed veteran

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Speaker 3: cornerback after veteran cornerback Patrick Peterson Jalen Ramsey in years past,

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Speaker 3: and those moves typically have not been great for the

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh So they having with those guys to safety by

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Speaker 3: the bid.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Joey Porter Junior is a number one

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Speaker 2: corner in this league.

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Speaker 3: He's really good. But I just to your point, like

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Speaker 3: I think about I actually rot about this. When Tomlin left,

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Speaker 3: I went back and looked at all of those great

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Speaker 3: Steelers teams who made it in the Super Bowl under

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Speaker 3: tom On under Cower twenty one twenty two of their

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Speaker 3: most used players were guys who were drafted by the

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Speaker 3: Steelers or aujected free agents with the Steelers brought in

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Speaker 3: and developed. They were not training for DK Metcalf, they

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Speaker 3: were not training for Michael Pittman, they were not importing

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Speaker 3: half of their roster from outside the building. And that

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Speaker 3: feels like they just have lost what makes the Steelers

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Speaker 3: the Steelers. They have really talented young players. Joey Porter's good,

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Speaker 3: kelevib Benton is good, May Simmercormick is good, Troy Fotana

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Speaker 3: is good, Zach Fraser's good. If they just leaned into that,

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Speaker 3: I think they would be fine. But leading into that

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Speaker 3: means you're going to have a two or three year

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Speaker 3: window where you stake, and the Steelers would rather go

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Speaker 3: nine to eight year after year after year. And I

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Speaker 3: have no hope of winning a Super Bowl, then take

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Speaker 3: that step backwards in the hopes of actually taking a

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Speaker 3: bigger step forward if they can find a young quarterback

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Speaker 3: and build around it.

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Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell, you get the last word, I'm sharp or square.

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