1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 3 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: trusted colleague West hod Kowitz. We're coming to you here 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field, West, NFL Draft is 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror. The Packers made eleven selections 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: over the course of the three days. We're going to 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: spend some time here breaking things down in terms of 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: just what the Packers got as far as we can 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: tell right now. Obviously we won't really know for maybe 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: another year or two or more as to what this 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: draft class really adds up to. But you have to 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: start on the defensive side of the ball, because Brian 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Goodakun has had two picks in the first round at 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: twenty two and at did not make a trade in 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: the first round. State at those two spots and picked 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: two defenders from George's naw Sational championship unit, And of 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: course I'm talking about linebacker Quay Walker defensive lineman DeVante Wyatt. 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: Just initially, your thoughts on those two guys being added 19 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: to a Packers defense that, as we all know, was 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: playing pretty darn well at the end of it's true, Mike, 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: and I'm not the kind of person that's going to 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: sit here, you know, poor Dyke coke down your back 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: and tell you it's not raining. I didn't. I wasn't 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: looking a lot at Walker throughout this process, and that 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: has nothing really to do with Walker. It has more 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: to do with the fact that as much as we've 27 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: talked about the receiver position, how long it's been since 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: they've drafted one in the first round, it had been 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: sixteen years since they've taken an inside linebacker. So I've 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: seen some good options on the board over the years. 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: But once I got into Thursday, and it started with 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: my good friend Pete Doherty that was actually his pick 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Press Gazette. We had talked about 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: him a little bit, I started to kind of dive 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: into him a little bit more so at the time 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: in which the Packers finally did select him, I actually went, 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: you know what, that made a lot of sense. This 38 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: guy's a tall, rangy athlete. And when you look at 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: what the Packers typically look for in the draft picks one, 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: it's athleticism. I mean, you look at all those metrics 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: and those new found kind of analytics that that talk 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: about the athleticism factor of Green Bay what they look 43 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: for in their picks, but realistically, it's also the application 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: of it and what he was able to do in 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: George's defense and how he projects at the next level. 46 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: And when I closed my eyes and I start to 47 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: mentally visualize him standing next to deve Andre Campbell, it's 48 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: not even just about the fact that they haven't had 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: two linebackers like that, they haven't had two athletes with 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: those bills and that kind of sideline to sideline speed 51 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: at least during my time on the beat and extending 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: well before that. We can talk about why it too, 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: but I mean first and foremost the fact that the 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: Packers did finally jump at an inside backer. The more 55 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: you look at the Quay Walker selection, the more it 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: made more sense to be Walker is one of these players. 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: It's interesting because it happens every year in the draft. 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's even with multiple players, where he's a player 59 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: at a certain position where there are other guys in 60 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: the country, and in this case actually another guy on 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: his own team at Georgia who got all of the 62 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: all of the accolades, the Butt Kass Award, the you know, 63 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: the postseason honors, all of these kinds of things. There 64 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: were a couple of other guys in this drafted inside 65 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: linebacker who got all of that attention, so they in 66 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: all of the mock drafts and and all of the 67 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: analysts were putting those guys up there as first round 68 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: draft picks. Then as you got to the last few 69 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: days before the draft, suddenly this name kay Walker started 70 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: popping up. And the way it's portrayed in the media is, oh, 71 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: Kwaywalker is rising up draft boards. Well, no, he's been 72 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: on the draft boards of NFL teams this whole time. 73 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: Where he is it's that reporters and analysts are finding 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: out more about what these teams actually think of this guy, 75 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: and so there he's rising on their boards because of 76 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: what they're learning through their channels and connections as to 77 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: what's going on in the actual NFL draft rooms, and 78 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: so as the as the when the draft did arrive 79 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, there were plenty of people who were 80 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: saying that Kaywalker very likely could be a first round pick, 81 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: and then, as it turned out, the Packers made him 82 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: the first inside linebacker to come off the board. When 83 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: I look at these two picks in tandem, so to speak, 84 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: Walker and Wyatt at twenty two And excuse me, I 85 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: look at these as as companion picks in a sense 86 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: because kway Walker sort of becomes the companion to dev 87 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: Andre Campbell at inside linebacker. With Joe Barry and his 88 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: scheme and wanting to wanting to keep two inside linebackers 89 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: on the field from a matchup perspective as much as possible, 90 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: Davante Wyatt kind of becomes the companion to Kenny Clark. 91 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: The Packers haven't really drafted a defensive lineman with the 92 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: the size, athleticism, pass rush ability, that that whole package 93 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: that Kenny Clark brings. They haven't really drafted a guy 94 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: with that type of profile now until they've drafted Wyatt. 95 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: So it's sort of like I see the middle of 96 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 1: the Packers defense potentially developing into these two pairs of players, 97 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: the two guys up front, the two at inside linebacker. 98 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: I think that's how they'd like to see it developed. Obviously, 99 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: with these guys being rookies, we just have to see 100 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: exactly how it goes. Absolutely, but why it was the 101 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: one I think I was most excited about, And again 102 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: that's nothing against Walker, but why it's the one that 103 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: I think, even going back to February, I had my 104 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: eye on because I did too, And I'll be honest. 105 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 1: When the packers did not take Wyat at twenty two, 106 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: and Brian Goudicus Steven said so he thought they had 107 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: probably given up their chance to get him, figuring he 108 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: would go somewhere between twenty two and twenty eight. But 109 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: he was still there at twenty eight, so he took him. 110 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: And when you had Trayvon Walker, you had Jordan Davis. 111 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: Those were two of the guys that I think got 112 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the accolades, got a lot of the attention, 113 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: but you can't discount what why It did in that 114 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: Georgia defense and what he sort provided to them. And 115 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a reason why when scouts and pundits 116 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: and draft nicks they were talking about this draft, they 117 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: said that this white kid might as might have as 118 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: high and upside as anybody. And when you break down 119 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: the film and when you look at the numbers with 120 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: him a four seven seven forty, that's about a quarter 121 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: of a second faster than what Kenny Clark rant coming 122 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: out of u u c l A six years ago. 123 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: Now he isn't as big as Kenny, but he's not 124 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: that far off. And he's the kind of guy that's 125 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: going to be able to play basically any spot on 126 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: the defensive front, in the defensive line, in any package. 127 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: And ultimately, I think that's what Green Bay really needed, Mike. 128 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: They had defensive linemen that could play in the early downs. 129 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: They had defensive lineman who could play on third down, 130 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: but unlike Clark and unlike Lowry, they didn't have somebody 131 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: that could potentially just be on the field at any 132 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: given time. This allows them to get a deeper rotation 133 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: going on the defensive line while also giving them the 134 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: best middle of a defense that I think they've had 135 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: over the last ten years. I mean, I think you 136 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: would have to go back to two thousand and ten, 137 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: when you know you had the Ryan Picketts and the 138 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: b J Rajis and the Johnny Jollies with you know, 139 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: Nick Barnett behind him, a J Hawk behind him, for 140 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: the last time they've had a unit like this. So 141 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: the kid's gonna need time to develop. He You're not 142 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,119 Speaker 1: gonna be able to expect him to come in. Kenny 143 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: Clark needed time back in two thousand and sixteen. But 144 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: he's a great investment piece at a position in which 145 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: the Packers hadn't invest in anything higher in than a 146 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: third round pick since they drafted Clark six years ago. 147 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: Right exactly. Well, the Packers also took three other players 148 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball before this draft 149 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: was over, the first one coming at the end of 150 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: the fifth round. South Carolina Eds rusher Kingsley apparently goes 151 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: by j j angabari Um. Now this this is an 152 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: interesting This is an interesting guy because he wasn't somebody 153 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: who statistically jumped off the page in terms of one. 154 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: But you look at what this young man did in 155 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: the COVID shortened season in I believe it was eight 156 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: games for South care Line. He had six sacks and 157 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: three forced fumbles in eight games, and he was first 158 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: team All SEC that season. Now, he didn't stay there 159 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: as first team SEC in one, of course, that's one 160 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: heck of a league in college football, but he still 161 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: was pretty solid in one. And the Packers and Vision 162 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: envisioned this young man not only potentially to help on 163 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: special teams with with with his body type and his speed, 164 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: but at the edge rusher position. We had talked about 165 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: it leading into the draft. You have Preston Smith, you 166 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: have Rashawn Gary. Those are your two starters. The Packers 167 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: are looking for Randy Ramsey to come back from the 168 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: injury that cost him all of last year. They have 169 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: Jonathan Garvin, Ladarius Hamilton's and tipanale I, guys who have 170 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: all shown something. They've all flashed something, and they've they've 171 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: contributed here and there over the course of the last 172 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: couple of years, but none of those guys has really 173 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: established himself as as you know, a Mr. Reliable like Okay, 174 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: this guy's a bona fide proven NFL producer. Right, So 175 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: Anabari gets he gets thrown into that competition right now 176 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: for the number three and four outside linebacker spots in 177 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: in new position coach Jason Rebrovitch's rotation, He's got a 178 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: chance to to make some noise earlier. We'll see what happens. 179 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: But but those three and four spots at edge rusher 180 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: for the Packers are wide open as far as I 181 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, and it's gonna be a long season 182 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: for me going Ignabari and then Rebrovitch back to back 183 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: in terms of trying to make sure I make all 184 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: those pronunciations happen. I'm sure. I'm sure that I've already 185 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: botched him a couple of times. But here's the thing, like, 186 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: and I don't want to oversimplify this thing, but I 187 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: really don't think in Kingsley's case that if this young 188 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: man runs a forty that's maybe point one five seconds faster, 189 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: I think you're looking at definitely a day two pick 190 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: and maybe even bordering on, you know, round one, because 191 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: he has everything else you want. Um As you mentioned, 192 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: the production dipped a bit, but he is what you 193 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: look for when you draw up a three four outside backer. 194 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: He has the size, he has the determination, and I 195 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: think he's going to be able to hold up the 196 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: edge with his strength. It did seem to be the 197 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: slow forty time from from what was out there, that 198 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: that maybe dropped him. That he was he was available 199 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: all the way at the end of the fifth round. Yeah, 200 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: and and I'm not discounting that forties don't mean something. Certainly, 201 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: you look at Rashawn Gary three years ago, uh that forty, 202 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: Not that it's everything in his game, but you can 203 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: see that explosivity and it does show up on the field. 204 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: But it also they're not asking this guy to run routes, 205 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: they're asking him to play football, and when you're looking 206 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: about deepening out a rotation, I talked about George Carloftis 207 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: being a guy really had my eye on. I just 208 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: felt like there needed to be somebody that they got 209 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: in this draft that could give them a new option. 210 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: A draft pick, a guy that has some potential, guy 211 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: that has some accolades at the college level, and in 212 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: the bar ig Nick Kingsley really gives you that persp 213 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: active here. I'm really excited about the pick. I'm really 214 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: looking forward to get a chance to meet him. He 215 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: sounds like a really um, you know, affable kid, you know, 216 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: really interesting individual. So his personality obviously is indicative of 217 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: that j J nickname. And I think you know when 218 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: you when you're looking at for packers people and and 219 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: guys that can come in and really gel with the 220 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: locker room. I again, I don't know him, but just 221 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: listen to him talk and learning a little bit about 222 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: his story at South Carolina. He does seem like somebody 223 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: will fit in really well with Preston Smith and Rashaun Garry. Yeah. Well, 224 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: then in the seventh round to other defenders who were 225 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: added both of them where the term size uh jumps 226 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: out at you. Trek Carpenter six ft three, two thirty 227 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: pounds safety, maybe a hybrid safety linebacker type. And then 228 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: also on Um Carpenter from Georgia Tech. And then on 229 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: the defensive line Jonathan Ford thirty pound I believe six 230 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: five if I remember correctly, six five, three thirty defensive 231 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: lineman from Miami. Carpenter certainly a guy that I think 232 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: the Packers are looking at to see what he might 233 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: be able to bring to special teams for the return 234 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: and the coverage units with that, with that body type, 235 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: Ford is uh just another classic run plugger, right. I 236 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: mean whether you whether you grab a guy like Tyler 237 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: Lancaster is an undrafted free agent or a three thirty 238 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: pound defensive lineman uh in you know, late in the 239 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: seventh round of the draft, kind of the same, the 240 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: same type of thing in terms of what you're looking 241 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: for that guy to do. Can you move him? Is 242 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: the question? And not? And obviously it's more it's bigger 243 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: than that, and Jerry mccomill be the first one to 244 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: tell you that. But what I look at when I 245 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: see Jonathan Ford is this is a man that if 246 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: he gets his pad level where it needs to be, 247 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: he is going to be, uh, just a roadblock for 248 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: offensive lineman to be able to get off his spot 249 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: because he has everything. He has the size. You know, 250 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: I think you look at his time, you know at 251 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: Miami that the tackle numbers probably weren't as high as 252 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: you think they would be for a guy that that's 253 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: played in fifty games, started thirty games, but you know, 254 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: as as good a consent after the draft, you know, 255 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: he thinks this guy, even though he's a little bit older, 256 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: still has his best football ahead of him, still has 257 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: some room to grow. And getting him in that line 258 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: with those offensive linemen, uh, defensive lineman, excuse me, there's 259 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, determination and being able to 260 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: really kind of figure out the next step there. I 261 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna learn a lot from that group. 262 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: Carpet is a guy I'm really excited about because I 263 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: think it goes beyond just the defense. Yes, six ft 264 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: three two and thirty pounds, that's an interesting body type 265 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: a lot, and I actually think his pro day kind 266 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: of wild some people. I mean, the kid didn't get 267 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: a combined invite, but at his pro day, I mean 268 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: I think he was running in the four fives. I 269 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: mean he put up he put up some some intriguing 270 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: numbers for a guy that could potentially be a linebacker. Um, 271 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: the Packers are going to start him here at safety, 272 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: but let's be honest. I mean, for a seventh round 273 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: pick coming in here, his his first goal is going 274 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: to be special teams. And when you think about special teamers, 275 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: Mike I wrote about this an Insider Inbox this week. 276 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: On paper, this guy reminds me a lot of Sean 277 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: Richardson and Shawn's a kid that he would have played 278 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: in this league a lot longer than he did and 279 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: had it not been for the neck injuries. But when 280 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: the Packers signed him out of h Vanderbilt, he was 281 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: the safety. When Casey Hayward was there, he was kind 282 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: of an afterthought. But at six ft two two twenty pounds, 283 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: he brought them something on special teams because you can 284 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: use that type of body type, that type of speed, 285 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: and so many different capacities. Uh that That's what I'm 286 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: looking for from Carpenter. Can he be that type of player, 287 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: because if he can, there's a lot of money to 288 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: be made in this league as far as that being 289 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: your launching off point. Yeah, I thought the comp you 290 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: made with Richardson was was a good one. And you know, 291 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: Richardson was an undrafted player and uh Carpenter, you know, 292 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: a late seventh round guy. 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On the 307 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: offensive side, as we mentioned, the Packers obviously used their 308 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: two first round picks on the defensive side of the ball. 309 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: They went into the second round of the draft on 310 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: Friday night with picks at number fifty three and number 311 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: fifty nine, and surprise, two picks into the action on 312 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: Friday night, the Packers were on the board because Brian 313 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: Goodacuts decided a package both of those second round picks 314 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: in the fifties to move all the way up to 315 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: number thirty four to select Christian Watson, the wide receiver 316 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: out of North Dakota State. Your initial impressions of the 317 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: move and the price the Packers paid to get this year? 318 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: You remember what I said in box last week? You 319 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: had to edit it. You remember my line, I don't 320 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: remember exactly. I liked him as a first round pick. 321 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: I loved him as a second round back because I 322 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: thought that's where the value was. And it's funny because 323 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: we talked on this show about, you know, would the 324 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: Packers trade to the thirty six spot, you know, high 325 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: in the second round, which was the spot where they 326 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: got Jordy Nelson. What would that be fourteen years ago now? 327 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson being drafted thirty six overall in two thousand 328 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: and eight, but close enough, right, number thirty, number thirty 329 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: four and the Packers once again draft a second round receive. 330 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: And I've said this before, but I truly mean it. 331 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: I feel like this guy, Christian Watson, was a lot 332 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: more like those first six receivers that got taken in 333 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: the top eighteen than the six that got taken immediately 334 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: after him in the second round. He has everything you want. 335 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Six ft four pounds, runs a four three six forty 336 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: I think somewhere around thirty eight and a half inch 337 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: vertical if I got that number right. The kid is 338 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: an athlete. He scores above the off the arts. I 339 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: think in terms of the receiver position, one of the 340 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: most athletic receivers and players at the Packers have taken 341 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: in the modern era. When you look at all of 342 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: his scores. And here's the other thing. He is a 343 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: fast climber and a kid that had a late growth spurt. 344 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: And I feel like this is going to be the 345 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: type of player that's going to come into Green Bay 346 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: is really going to benefit from the veteran leadership around him. 347 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: North Dakota State. The guy was a big playmaker downfield 348 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: target and there is a huge catch radius to work 349 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: off of. Rome will not be built in a day. 350 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: We know how things go with receivers in Green Bay, 351 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 1: but in terms of finally getting that prospect, I know, 352 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: I know it wasn't a first rounder or whatever, but 353 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: this kid has what you look for when you talk 354 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: about the lineage of Randall cop Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, 355 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams in the second round, he has all the 356 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: measurables to be the next great one. Yeah. To me, 357 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: it's interesting how this played out, and the fans have 358 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: been asking an inbox you know, well, it sounds like 359 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: the packers sure gave up a lot to get that 360 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: thirty four pick and all of that, and that is 361 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: certainly true. I mean, the trade charts say that the 362 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: Vikings won the trade. And but here's the thing, Brian 363 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: Goodacunts knows that he knows what the numbers are going 364 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: to say, right, So so how so how do you 365 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: have I think what you have to do is you 366 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: have you have to evaluate it from our outside perspective. 367 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: To say that just tells you how much Brian Goodakuns 368 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: liked this young man and wanted this young man to 369 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: be his receiver selection in this draft. I totally agree 370 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: with you with what you said about the guys who 371 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: were drafted in the first round, because there were six 372 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: receivers taken in a span of eleven picks from number 373 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: eight to number eighteen in the first round, those eleven picks, 374 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: six receivers were taken. The Packers were there at twenty two. 375 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: None of those top six guys fell to Green Bay 376 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: at twenty two, and Goodacunts did not make a move 377 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: up in order to get one. The Packers sat with 378 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: the two picks. In the fifties, we saw a handful 379 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: of receivers get picked in the fifties, like right in 380 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: that range. Goudacounts knew he could have gotten one of 381 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: those guys and maybe even gotten two of them. Were 382 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: gotten one of those guys and an extra player if 383 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: he stays with his two picks in the fifties. He 384 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: didn't want to do that. Why because he liked this 385 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: guy as much as as much as he does. And 386 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's how you have to 387 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: look at it now. As you said, Rome won't be 388 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: built in a day. In terms of Christian Watson's NFL 389 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: career in this Matt Lafleur offense with Aaron Rodgers and 390 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: everything else, but This was This was the guy that 391 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: the Packers had when those first six were gone by 392 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: the eight pick. This was the guy the Packers had 393 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: who was far and away the best receiver prospect in 394 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: their minds and Brian Goodacoon's. He didn't care that the 395 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: charts were gonna say he lost the trade to the 396 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. He wanted his guy. He was going to 397 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: make sure that he got him and uh and and 398 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: to get him in here with Al Lazard, Randall Cobs, 399 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins and uh and see what he can do 400 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: in this offense, not only in the beginning but over 401 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: the course of time, because we all we've all seen 402 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: what did Jordy Nelson do over time? What did Randall Cobb, 403 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: What did Davante Adams do? None of those guys set 404 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: the world on fire as rookies. Necessarily, this guy, Christian Watson, 405 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: is going to have the opportunity as a rookie that 406 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: those other guys didn't have because of the way the 407 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: receiver room was constructed when they arrived. The Packers are 408 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: in a different place at wide receiver. He's going to 409 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to do both, to show what he 410 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: can do as a young man and what he can 411 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: do down the road. We know how we do three 412 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: things with Larry right, I'm gonna give you three things 413 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: right now. Number one, if you mocked Christian Watson to 414 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: the Packers in the first round at twenty two or 415 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: you do not have a say. And if the Packers 416 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: gave up too much to take him in the second round, 417 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that right now, there's been way too 418 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: much of this. Did they give up too much for him? 419 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: You guys wanted to take him at twenty two? How 420 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: is that giving up too much for him? They got 421 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: to other prospects? Still? Okay? Moving on from that, this guy, Mike, 422 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: in terms of the receiver position, when you ask about opportunities, 423 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: you want opportunities coming in the National Football League for 424 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Christian Watson, the six returning veterans and the other two 425 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: rookies that they took. They took that we'll talk about 426 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: here momentarily. There's nine guys that are either been drafted 427 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL or played in NFL games right now 428 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: on the roster. That is a golden opportunity. It's a 429 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: golden opportunity to make this fifty three. It's a golden 430 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to start week one. You play this game for 431 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: chances to to solidify yourself, to prove yourself, to to 432 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: show everybody you are what you personally believed you are. 433 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: There were a lot of years in Green Bay where 434 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: you knew going into the season it's gonna be Jordy Nelson, 435 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, James Jones, flip those two depending 436 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: on what you're you're looking at, and then that's where 437 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: a bulk of the eleven personnel, it's where a bulk 438 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: of the snaps are going to go. If any young 439 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: guy or you know, even a veteran plays well in 440 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: training camp, looks good during the off season, program shows 441 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: out during preseason, you're going to play this year and 442 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: that has to be motivating. If that doesn't motivate you, 443 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: nothing well. Because as much as everybody wants to talk 444 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: about the Packers don't have receivers whatever, this is a 445 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: chance once that game one starts to game seventeen to 446 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: show everyone that the Packers receiving corps is who they 447 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: thought they were. Well, and the Packers didn't stop there, 448 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: of course, a wide receiver Brian goodakunst adding two more 449 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: before the end of the draft, he gets Romeo Dobbs 450 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: from Nevada in the fourth round, some more Toure from 451 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: Nebraska by way of Montana in the seventh round. And 452 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: both of these guys was really interesting prospects in my 453 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: mind because certainly Dobbs and there was there's been all 454 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 1: this confusion as to whether it's pronounced Dobbs or dubs 455 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: and apparently both. Yeah, he's actually fine with both because 456 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: apparently Dubbs was kind of a name. Dobbs is what 457 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: he says is the way it's supposed to be pronounced, 458 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: but he really doesn't care either way, but not exactly, 459 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: but anyway, so we'll go with Dobbs. But another guy 460 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: with the size that the packers look for at the 461 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: position right six ft two, about two hundred pounds. But 462 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: also the production was there. This is you know, yes 463 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: it's the Mountain West Conference, not a Power five league, 464 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: but back to back thousand yards seasons for this young 465 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: man out of Nevada. And then you look at tour A. 466 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: He came originally from the FCS from Montana, where he 467 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: had like off the chart numbers like four some yards, 468 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean, just had a decorated career for three years 469 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: at Montana, then lost the season to COVID because the 470 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: FCS schools did not play in So then he decides 471 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: for one final year of eligibility to go to Nebraska 472 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,120 Speaker 1: to challenge himself in the Big Ten. And he produces. 473 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: He did produces on a Nebraska team to to UH 474 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: to then you know, to raise his stock, raise his 475 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: profile to where then he does get drafted in the 476 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: seventh round as opposed to having to wait for um 477 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: for a free agent contract. But um, but these two uh, 478 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: these two receivers very interesting prospects. And I'm I'm really curious. 479 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm really curious about Dobbs because this is a guy 480 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: that I'll be honest, I didn't really know much about. 481 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: I hadn't paid that much attention to as many of 482 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: the receiver prospects in the middle rounds. But you look 483 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: at what he did, you look at what he did 484 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: in the college game, and you look at the size, 485 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: speed combination, it seems like it's it's it's the kind 486 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: of guy that that the Packers field can fit in 487 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: pretty well. Yeah, and in the Mouth West Conference. I mean, 488 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: it's a good brand of football. But for whatever reason, 489 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because of the time change 490 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: or what. We don't really get a chance to watch 491 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: a lot of it, you know. I mean I remember 492 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: even when I was at Boise State was in its 493 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: big runs, Like just trying to find a way to 494 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: watch them was kind of difficult. So yeah, I can't 495 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: lie to you either and sit here and tell you 496 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: that I've watched a lot of at A wolf Pack football. 497 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: But when you do take a look again, like I said, 498 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: I think I mentioned as an inbox around the show, 499 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: when when these things get done, that's when I really 500 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: do like to sit down and kind of not try 501 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: to guess what GUDA constant scouts are gonna do, but 502 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: try to start to understand why they did it. And 503 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: and that's why with Dobbs it makes so much sense 504 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: in terms of the guy. The guy hit the markers. 505 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's a fourth round pick, but his production, 506 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: that's no accident. I mean, this is a guy that 507 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: really trusted his process in Nevada and then when it 508 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: was time for him to be the lead dog, he 509 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: did it, and he did it at extremely high level. 510 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: Two Ray for a seventh round pick, is actually probably 511 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: one of the more interesting players that I can remember 512 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: the Packers taking because this is a guy that you 513 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: don't really know what to think, you know, when guys 514 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: come out of the FCS. We just talked about it, 515 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, with with Watson too, you know there's a 516 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: there's a difference in competition, but he did challenge himself. 517 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: He went to Nebraska, he led the big ten nineteen 518 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: point five yards per catch last seas and he was 519 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: a big play target and they moved him all around. 520 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna probably be more of a slot guy here, 521 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: but as we learned Mike, that's actually a huge opportunity 522 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: for green Ban I mean, between the pre snap motions, 523 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: between the way that those guys can be utilized. Uh, 524 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: and he's excited to get drafted. The third thing I 525 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: was gonna say before and then I was gonna get 526 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: ahead of myself because we hadn't talked about these two 527 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: receivers yet is the Packers have only a handful of 528 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: occasions over the last twenty years, have dived into a 529 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: skill position group three times, and each time it's produced 530 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: some pretty good results. I mean, it was three day 531 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: three picks in two thousand eighteen, but they did get 532 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: Marcos Velda scantling out of the fifth round, which was 533 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: a tremendous find. They did it three times on Day 534 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: three and two thousand seventeen, and you ended up with 535 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones and obviously Jamal Williams. The greatest story of 536 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: all is two thousand fourteen because they let it off 537 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: with Davante Adams, and Adams ended up becoming one of 538 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: the greatest receivers of team history. It's not a given 539 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna hit on all three. It's not going to 540 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: be a given you hit on any of them, but 541 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: given yourself that many swings at the plate when you 542 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: need a receiver, I they feel like that was a 543 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: strong play here by the Packers, and the Packers also 544 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: we had talked about it going into the draft, looking 545 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: for some depths, some competition along the offensive line. And 546 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: for the third consecutive draft, Brian Goudacun selects three offensive 547 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: lineman he gets h and all of these all of 548 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: these individuals played left tackle primarily to finish their college careers. 549 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: And I'm talking about Sean Ryan from u C. L A, 550 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: who was chosen in the third round on Friday Night, 551 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: and then two picks on Saturday, Zack Tom from Wake 552 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Forest and Rashid Walker from Penn State. Now, the interesting 553 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: thing is with the first two of these guys, for sure, 554 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: with Ryan and with Tom, there's there's positional versatility, a 555 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of analysts saying that Sean Ryan 556 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: might be a better fit at guard in the NFL 557 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: than at tackle where he played in college. And Tom 558 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: a guy who actually played a lot of different spots, 559 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: including including center or in his in his college career. 560 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: It sounds like Walker is is more of a tackle 561 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 1: and that's his spots, sort of like Josh Niman when 562 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: they brought him in as an undrafted player a few 563 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: years ago, nobody was really talking about him playing guard, 564 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: like this guy is, this guy's a tackle. But what 565 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: the Packers are setting up here is it's it's going 566 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: to be I think some interesting competition along the offensive line. 567 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: We had talked about sort of how things looked heading 568 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: into the draft. But to me, you know, yes, Yosh 569 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: Naiman I think would be the front runner to start 570 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: at right tackle, but one of these guys might be 571 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: able to push him compete with them. We'll see, you know, 572 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: we'll see how that shakes out. And with the versatility 573 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: of guys like Ryan and Tom. Maybe one of them 574 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: challenges at a guard spot for either Royce Newman or 575 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: John Runyon. I think John Runyon is maybe a little 576 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: more solidified at left guard than Newman is at right guard, 577 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: based on the way last season ended where Runyan was 578 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: playing in the playoffs and when Josh Meyers came back 579 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: at center and they moved Lucas Patrick over to right guard, 580 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: and then Newman became the sixth man for the postseason. 581 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: But I think there's going to be some interesting competition here. Now. 582 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: I would still say the guys who have played in 583 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: the NFL are your front runners. They're the guys that 584 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: you would think would hold onto those spots. But when 585 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: we were doing this show last year, after the Packers 586 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: drafted Royce Newman out of Mississippi in the fourth round, 587 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't think either one of us was sitting here saying, oh, yeah, 588 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: that fourth round pick out of Mississippi, he's gonna be 589 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: starting at right guard in Week one, right. Well that's 590 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: how it played out. So we just don't know how 591 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: this is going to go. But the Packers got got 592 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: some big guys up front. The um for the depth 593 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: that they needed based on, you know, having lost Billy Turner, 594 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: Lucas Patrick, not resigning Dennis kelly Um. You know, the 595 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: Packers lost a lot of experience on the offensive line 596 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: in this offseason, and they're they're refortifying that depth chart one, 597 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: two three Brian Goodkin set afterwards. It's about trying to 598 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: find your starting five, and with these moves that Green 599 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: Bay made, they give themselves a bevy of options to 600 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: do that. You talked about last year, not thinking that 601 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: Roy Snum would be playing as much. We didn't know 602 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: that Elton Jenkins was gonna end up being at left tackle. 603 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: We didn't know that when Jenkins went down, it was 604 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: gonna be Yosh Niman eight starts at left tackle. There 605 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: were so many things that I don't think you could 606 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: have prepared for last season that it reiterated why you 607 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: need to have contingency plans. They lost Josh Myers for 608 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: eleven games. Luckily for them, they had put all that time, 609 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: that sweat equity into developing Lucas Patrick as a center. Well, 610 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: when Patrick leaves, now you've got to find guys who 611 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: could potentially play center, especially with Jenkins still on the mend. 612 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: That's where you look at a guy like Zack Tom 613 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: coming in, a guy that has that in his back pocket. Yeah, 614 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: maybe doesn't have the traditional, you know, type of size 615 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 1: you look for in there, but his athleticism. Again, this 616 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: is becoming a common thread here is off the charts. 617 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: Him and Ryan their verticals were the two highest of 618 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: anyone at the NFL scouting combine. Yeah, three pound guys 619 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 1: putting up like thirtys vertical jumps. That's better than some 620 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: receivers in this draft. Yeah, that's hard. It's hard for 621 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: me to even to even picture that quite Frank. I mean, 622 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: it's pretty remarkable what those guys were able to achieve. So, 623 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's explosiveness, that's power. It's being able to 624 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: get underneath the shoulder pads of your opponent. I'm excited 625 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: for them, and honestly, I'm excited for this entire group 626 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: because Packers hope they're going to get in knock On Wood, 627 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: will get Elton Jenkins back at some point this season. 628 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: They want that to be a really difficult decision where 629 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: Elton plays once he's back. You hope everything turns out 630 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: well with David box tr As you know, Brian goodenkods 631 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: has said he thinks that everything is going to be 632 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: fine in that regard. He'll be good to go for 633 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: training camp and we can get this train back on 634 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: the tracks. But they have so many guys, Mike, that 635 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: have played so many different positions, and I can't remember 636 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: the last time they've had what eight nine guys on 637 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: a roster who have all been draft picks, because you 638 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: talked about them taking three straight draft was drafts with 639 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: three straight offensive linemen and they're all basically here. Still, 640 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,959 Speaker 1: it's gonna be really interesting to watch Matt Lafleur and 641 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: his coaching staff Adam Stanovich as offensive coordinator. Luke Buckers 642 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: says the offensive line coach. They would love nothing better 643 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: then for the day that Elton Jenkins is back from 644 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: his knee injury and is ready to play, that it's 645 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: not obvious where he should play right because they have 646 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: they've they've established the depth they have their guys. Elton 647 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: Jenkins is going to play when he's ready to play 648 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: because he's a pro bowler and he can be a 649 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: pro bowler at a number of different positions. But if 650 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: it's not an easy call, that's gonna be a good thing. 651 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: I get a kick out of this too, because you're 652 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 1: absolutely right about, Hey, where does this guy measure up? 653 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: Should he move inside? Like it's funny you go back 654 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: eight years ago, nine years ago, they were thinking David 655 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: Box was gonna be a center. Not the Packers, but 656 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: some scouts haven't pegged as a center. You never know 657 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: until you know. But the thing that Green Bay has 658 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: done such an exceptional job at is they let him 659 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: go out there and figure it out. Royce Newman ended 660 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: up he wasn't lining up at right guard earlier in 661 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: training camp. Use that right tackle behind Billy Turner. Yeah, 662 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: we're I was. I was writing about Newman in the 663 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: spring because when he was drafted it was okay, he's 664 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: a guard tackle prospect. And when I was writing about 665 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: him in the spring and like, oh, it looks like 666 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: Newman is gonna get his first shot at tackle. Well 667 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: by the time by the time training camp rolled around 668 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: and things really got going into the preseason, it's like, oh, 669 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: this guy's got a chance to start at guard as 670 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: as a rookie and week one on a Super Bowl contender. 671 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: So you just don't You just never know. It's called football. 672 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: You have to figure it out, all right. Well, We've 673 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: run pretty long for today. Our producer Marv is gonna 674 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: be mad at me, but anyway, we'll sign off from here. 675 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about the draft on 676 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: our next show, but for now, that's a wrap on 677 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted for West I Am Mike. All kinds of 678 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: coverage of the draft if you didn't see what we 679 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: did over the weekend, and credit to all of our 680 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: team at packers dot com. The video guys are are interns, 681 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: all our technical people. There is so much out there 682 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: on these draft picks on packers dot com. Be sure 683 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: to check it all out. And with that, thank you 684 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: for tuning in everybody. We'll see you next time.