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Speaker 1: and when we started this podcast, if we said that
Speaker 1: we want to give love to our legends, we want
Speaker 1: to give love to people that sometimes it has been
Speaker 1: forgotten about or sometimes because when you get to a
Speaker 1: certain level or you do so much things people say,
Speaker 1: but that's in hip hop. We gotta change that. We
Speaker 1: actually Rolling Stones goes on tour right now. Uh what's
Speaker 1: the nigger name? Uh? Making them niggers? They go on
Speaker 1: tour right now. Why it is hip hop not celebrated
Speaker 1: in the same exact way. The older you get and
Speaker 1: then you know what the crazy ship is the older
Speaker 1: you get, they except up two more in Europe, like
Speaker 1: in Europe, but this is the birthplace of hip hop.
Speaker 1: So right now I am so privileged. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: to pick up two brothers that I want to put
Speaker 1: in the hip hop Hall of Fame me personally, because
Speaker 1: I feel like hip hop needs a hall of fame.
Speaker 1: This rock and roll hall of Fame bullshit. We ain't
Speaker 1: rock and roll. We gotta relax, even though even though
Speaker 1: even though it is it is actually like it is
Speaker 1: like like a big up to be in a rock
Speaker 1: and roll hall. We can, but we shaid Russell, holler
Speaker 1: at me Russell, because I feel like we should do
Speaker 1: a hip hop Hall of Fame. And if the hip
Speaker 1: hop Hall of Fame, what's that happened? These two brothers,
Speaker 1: that's it right here from the Bronx, because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a Bronx guy. I don't know, the world don't
Speaker 1: know that we're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna
Speaker 1: stablish that today these two brothers cheer. First off, the
Speaker 1: first child star in hip hop period period. I've seen
Speaker 1: this man come up. I thought it was part of weekend.
Speaker 1: In my mind. Not good here. I don't know, You're
Speaker 1: not good here. My name, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You would definitely make some way. I'm gonna get to that.
Speaker 1: And then this older brother that stand right but inside me,
Speaker 1: to the right of me. I've seen his hunger, I've
Speaker 1: seen his struggle. I've seen him battle artists on the street.
Speaker 1: Then I seen him have an unfortunate situation and he
Speaker 1: never complained about it. And that's one of the most
Speaker 1: beautifulest things is that you could have complained about it,
Speaker 1: and you could have been like fuck ever have been better,
Speaker 1: but you did. And you know what, Chili and my songs.
Speaker 1: Nothing else I would love to do is to big
Speaker 1: y'all brothers up right now and all the dream chat
Speaker 1: djis I gotta get. I gotta go straight to you
Speaker 1: because us I don't want to say controversy, but I
Speaker 1: want to say that, Uh it's been a recent interview,
Speaker 1: right A brother said something and you were buddled that statement.
Speaker 1: But the most beautiful thing about what you did was
Speaker 1: you never hated. You just was honest and you spoke
Speaker 1: your opinion and real Nigga's world. Why text each other
Speaker 1: and said you see mice. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: got the text text and I got the text. So
Speaker 1: what I want to ask you is what made you
Speaker 1: take that stand because you don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, like you said, man, real niggas worldwide.
Speaker 1: I think like people keep saying real Nigga is back,
Speaker 1: and like we're just having a conversation, are really went nowhere?
Speaker 1: We never know, you know. But the problem is is
Speaker 1: that most of us are silent. We just don't even
Speaker 1: see the need to check you that we know it's
Speaker 1: fake because but we don't realize that the rest of
Speaker 1: the world don't know it's fake. Because they've been fed
Speaker 1: fake ship so long that they've that it's real. So
Speaker 1: me watching this and then actually you read in comments
Speaker 1: and people like, yo, this is the really ship you
Speaker 1: And I'm reading this something like how could this? Like
Speaker 1: what is real about this? To You're like somewhere somewhere
Speaker 1: along the way, there's been some type of the translation
Speaker 1: got sucked up. For what really the real translation is
Speaker 1: sucked up? So I felt like being pump. I got
Speaker 1: job to stop me. But was that a real champagne?
Speaker 1: Nigh right there? Not a spell, not spill, it didn't
Speaker 1: look at the look at the gun that you know,
Speaker 1: I've been a palace, its continued Mice. I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: that it's a big myself. For a second, I thought
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna do that. We needed that,
Speaker 1: but continued looking. Yes, it's called fas. You gotta learn
Speaker 1: this and you can't bring take it back. I continue
Speaker 1: because you know what the most important part about it
Speaker 1: it was, Mice, was I looked in your your eyes,
Speaker 1: looked in your face, and I looked at every time
Speaker 1: you spoke, and it was not hate. This was not hate.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the new word for you, just expressing
Speaker 1: some ship when you're not, when you go against the status, disagree, yeah,
Speaker 1: when you disagree. But it's just the dumbest in the world.
Speaker 1: I ask people like or you hating? You hating, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so what are you doing when you
Speaker 1: comment on what I'm saying. You have opinion about what
Speaker 1: I say, and you have the right to express that.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're hating. You've got your opinion. You
Speaker 1: don't even know me, never see me a day in
Speaker 1: life with something I said made you feel like you
Speaker 1: needed to respond. So why you feel some way about
Speaker 1: me feeling the same way you felt, That's because of
Speaker 1: the platform that you're doing. That The thing's the platform
Speaker 1: that I'm doing. It makes me more valid because I
Speaker 1: have actually know the people I'm talking about. I actually
Speaker 1: have interacted, I actually know what I'm dealing with. You
Speaker 1: just coming on here and never seen me, never met me,
Speaker 1: don't know nothing about me, and you have opinion about me.
Speaker 1: You understand I'm saying. So that's just it's just it's
Speaker 1: a it's a smoke screen. You understand I'm saying. People
Speaker 1: don't want to be checked on ship, so you know
Speaker 1: it becomes you hating, hate is when you don't have
Speaker 1: a you don't even have a reason for something. But
Speaker 1: then you're like, yo, you like this, but not why not?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't like it. Now, that's
Speaker 1: now I can see why because you can't even give
Speaker 1: me a reason why you don't want something. But when
Speaker 1: I could tell you, no, no, I don't like it
Speaker 1: because it don't sound good, it don't look good, I
Speaker 1: don't like the color. You don't fit me right, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm giving you a reason. Then whether you agree with
Speaker 1: my reason, that's up to you. You just saying, but
Speaker 1: it ain't knowing. Hey, it's it's actually just me giving
Speaker 1: your opinion. And that's what we get. We get teamed on.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of real quote unquote real niggas
Speaker 1: don't even want to deal with that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They just say their selves, you know what
Speaker 1: I know? Real If you don't want to believe that,
Speaker 1: ship cool, But theyn't understand. It's like being in jail
Speaker 1: and the fake nig coming to the house right here.
Speaker 1: I used to screw the niggas and you're like, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna stay in my cute. He got about twenty
Speaker 1: five minutes. But I'm saying, but if the real niggas
Speaker 1: didn't start checking them, the first of the fake niggs
Speaker 1: start coming and next to you allow because these niggas
Speaker 1: that took over the day room all type of ship,
Speaker 1: because now you don't allow them to do that. So
Speaker 1: it's like in the same man jail nigga walking. Look,
Speaker 1: this is how we run this house. Here. You can't
Speaker 1: do you do that bozo ship. You gotta get out
Speaker 1: of here. And that's how we gotta do in hip
Speaker 1: hop again for you know, saying, we gotta start checking
Speaker 1: niggas because now now we fathers before we was young,
Speaker 1: just now were fathers and our kids start questioning us,
Speaker 1: be like, da, you're not like such such and such as.
Speaker 1: World's like what that even? No, no, no, no no, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna let y'all do that nothing mind because y'all haven't.
Speaker 1: When you have that platform, you'll have a control over
Speaker 1: what goes on the whole culture. Your absolutely, so I
Speaker 1: can't allow your cancers that affect the culture, not on
Speaker 1: my watch. And you know what, hip hop appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Real niggas appreciate you. Uh, and just in life, everybody
Speaker 1: should appreciate your stance that you took because mind you,
Speaker 1: I'm part of the new generation too, like I go
Speaker 1: to the clubs, I like, I love me egos so
Speaker 1: um boy. But but now so it's not chiall li chiall, Lie.
Speaker 1: You're one of the very fortunate people that actually you
Speaker 1: look twenty years old. You're name should be baby Face,
Speaker 1: But you're one of the very fortunate people that actually
Speaker 1: been around for the real hour of hip hop, like
Speaker 1: you actually was there so for you to see how
Speaker 1: the arrow of hip hop went from then to now,
Speaker 1: like I don't even know my question. For me, the
Speaker 1: way to coaches change. It doesn't upset me, I don't
Speaker 1: think as much as it upsets a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of my piers young okay, our generation, the older
Speaker 1: the older generation. And for me, a lot of it
Speaker 1: is because I think because I got kids, So it's
Speaker 1: just like I'm entwined with with the new sound. But
Speaker 1: a lot of it is when we was young and
Speaker 1: I was listening to run in the Fat Boys, like
Speaker 1: my pops will buy it for me. But you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes it was to cut that ship down, and sometimes
Speaker 1: I know he didn't think thirty forty years later, this
Speaker 1: was what it was gonna be it's a fan. Oh
Speaker 1: that's not music. They sampling. We sound like them them
Speaker 1: Damn you know what I'm saying. We said, like that
Speaker 1: ain't hip hop. It's just a new sense kids their kids.
Speaker 1: They kids think about it. Like Mike said, like Sunday Team,
Speaker 1: I do the eight team god bless, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, need was popping now, So every some
Speaker 1: of the ship they do because see it and be
Speaker 1: like I ain't as something We're gonna be like these kids.
Speaker 1: But that was kind of like how it was back then,
Speaker 1: because I mean like when people say that the error
Speaker 1: was Golden or his classic, a lot of people a
Speaker 1: lot of times people don't actually focus on the fact
Speaker 1: that it was back of music. Then. Yeah, everything wasn't dope.
Speaker 1: Everybody wasn't getting things like things I don't like and
Speaker 1: what you address to when we when you heard the
Speaker 1: speaking was that the new generation A lot of them,
Speaker 1: not that they don't pay homage, but it's like they
Speaker 1: don't even know, like like how you know this is
Speaker 1: your your feel Like if I'm a baseball player, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna know something about Jackie Robinson Windfield. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying whatever your feelings. Yeah, come on, that's our
Speaker 1: ration fault. Yeah, we dropped the ball. We didn't say
Speaker 1: you don't tell them, you got to go about it.
Speaker 1: And it's it's crazy because, like you said, the role
Speaker 1: so they could still do shows. But our fore fathers
Speaker 1: is they washed up? You know what I mean? That's whack,
Speaker 1: that's that's we. Mice said the show when needed to
Speaker 1: join the bb Kings and cool Hurt was there, like
Speaker 1: like I was, I brought the cool kid came out
Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, you don't Hurt brought them
Speaker 1: out because that's cool Hurt. That's cool, that's cool. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, He wouldn't be hit, But I
Speaker 1: don't want to stand Hell, Hurt ain't got a million
Speaker 1: dollars or at least five thousand dollars in his bank account,
Speaker 1: Like I wish I had it to be like here,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But some of our leaders
Speaker 1: in hip hop got it. Man. We got to make
Speaker 1: sure some of our brothers. Is I got the man?
Speaker 1: You know you know that I'm and I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: to read this up, but just me and my partner
Speaker 1: DJ F started this podcast. We wanted to start something
Speaker 1: called a hip hop union, which means if Mike Song
Speaker 1: had that same case back then, and we look at
Speaker 1: Mice and say, Mike said he ain't do it. Did
Speaker 1: somebody in place to pay for your lawyer, pay for
Speaker 1: your case, pay for everything? Right? So I did all
Speaker 1: of the all these nights. Okay, I'm keeping it right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: can you put that all the because frames right? So
Speaker 1: the other day, right, my wife, I love this woman.
Speaker 1: We went to Balibo, the first time I ever rented
Speaker 1: a house myself. Every time I ever rented the house,
Speaker 1: it was always been def Jam Tommy boy. It never
Speaker 1: was me. So when I went at this house, I
Speaker 1: walked outside the house because we had ordered the car
Speaker 1: services and said it would be twenty minutes. So I
Speaker 1: came downstairs because I had like four blunts and I
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta smokes right, So I swopped him
Speaker 1: and the driver came up in two minutes. And when
Speaker 1: he came up, he said, I said, yo, like, I
Speaker 1: looked at the ship. It's supposed to be twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: He said to me, Oh no, I just dropped off,
Speaker 1: picked up or saw somebody in the rehab in Malibu right.
Speaker 1: So when he said that, you know, naturally, I'm smoking,
Speaker 1: so I wanted to walk away from him because I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be disrespectful and begetting high. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's a recovering whatever, but he said he
Speaker 1: said so to get to bring back my point. And
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you it was the other day
Speaker 1: d M Max my brother. I love that nigger. He's
Speaker 1: always been there for me. He never lied to me
Speaker 1: when people seemed on the bark Lay stage and people
Speaker 1: seeing to his rants, people judge them without wanting it
Speaker 1: to help. I immediately wanted to help, so I said
Speaker 1: I wanted to, but if I do it or I
Speaker 1: stepped in, he's gonna spit at me. I noticed thing,
Speaker 1: because yo, what or what? Who the fuck you think
Speaker 1: you all that's what you're gonna do. But if we
Speaker 1: had a hip hop union in place where we'd sit
Speaker 1: back and we say, Okay, the dog don't look great,
Speaker 1: release the brand. And the reason why I bring it
Speaker 1: up is and I don't want to blow it up.
Speaker 1: But he's actually amaalable right now. That's where he's at.
Speaker 1: But the problem was I didn't have a position to
Speaker 1: step up. I didn't have a position to step up
Speaker 1: and say whatever, because if it was just me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, they would have all said
Speaker 1: fuck you know, no, no, they would have loved the
Speaker 1: actual fact that I stepped up, But then they would
Speaker 1: have said, fund does he think he is? Dude? Y'all
Speaker 1: agreed that we need a hip hop union. Definitely think so,
Speaker 1: and especially like brothers like Cool, the real firl Father,
Speaker 1: the real fore Fathers. More so because the money wasn't there.
Speaker 1: It was not so it wasn't like they had blue
Speaker 1: it ran through it. They was getting jerved. It wasn't there.
Speaker 1: And then what was there they was? They was booking them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you got to tell
Speaker 1: the people what booking means. They was wrong looking for
Speaker 1: He's like, no, that's in New York. I'm s So
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, a lot of then't didn't never had
Speaker 1: the bread with EX, you know, ex and running through
Speaker 1: some bread. But even with people like Ex, like when
Speaker 1: I was locked up on me, I see so many brothers.
Speaker 1: Look at the crackheads, and nobody will smoke cracking jail.
Speaker 1: Everybody was getting money, you know, everybody just smoke weed.
Speaker 1: But It's like I used to tell me that your helf.
Speaker 1: This y'all is running around with cuts on your faces
Speaker 1: from weed beefs. You know what I'm saying. If you
Speaker 1: fucking smoke weed, drink liquid, drink coffee, any any move changing,
Speaker 1: you ain't got the right to judge nobody. His ship
Speaker 1: just might be a little more crucial. Some some ship
Speaker 1: is a little more serious. Man, too much to criticize anybody.
Speaker 1: Anybody drink. I don't want to hear you talk about
Speaker 1: my weed unless you don't do nothing. Leave me alone, man,
Speaker 1: And just we got like you said, we got to
Speaker 1: help the brother. You know what the thing is. The
Speaker 1: thing is hip hop has to start accepting our responsibility.
Speaker 1: We gotta grow up. Money a hip hop to you
Speaker 1: still just beat deal response to you know we're supposed
Speaker 1: to hip hop Alon could finance all our communities, like
Speaker 1: the whole black movement. It could finance that's deep. Like really,
Speaker 1: if all the hip hop said down and said, look, okay,
Speaker 1: you from the left, we buy it back left right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna own all the like we're gonna put all
Speaker 1: this to you. We're gonna buy back. But like we
Speaker 1: could literally do that ship. But nobody here is crazy,
Speaker 1: is mice. All we need is to take one percent
Speaker 1: of our profits. We don't go We don't need to
Speaker 1: take their jewelry whom need because because because like we're sorry.
Speaker 1: Let because you know why, that's the best pocket in
Speaker 1: the world. That's depends the world. The rocket is the
Speaker 1: best pocket in the world. Yes, you you you're you're
Speaker 1: gonna be so right, guys, I'm I mean originally like
Speaker 1: my parents. Later, Yeah, you gonna you got like the
Speaker 1: same count of hair my family, my friends West Indire
Speaker 1: because we're gonna lot St. Lucia sat kids to my
Speaker 1: grand friend. You had good here for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you have you ain't just you ain't just have
Speaker 1: good here yesterday, like you've really had this thing here
Speaker 1: is next. But you West Indian. We always we always
Speaker 1: claimed doing the party we gain on clubs. Well you
Speaker 1: know he gon were is white? My white yea. And
Speaker 1: my wife thinks she pought a Reagan. I'll be teasing
Speaker 1: that she from El Salvador, so you have to see
Speaker 1: a black girl. And before she said king, anybody in
Speaker 1: the Salvador come out. So so now let's let's just
Speaker 1: gonna bring him back to hip hop. This Trayson, this
Speaker 1: is what I trace YEA. Jimmy told me that jim Jones,
Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Jimmy Cafe, let's make so much of
Speaker 1: Jimmy a lot of he said, That's how I do it.
Speaker 1: I put them selves in it self. He's still doing.
Speaker 1: I can't believe. I thought it would have been over
Speaker 1: by now, because a lot of people die the Jimmy's
Speaker 1: Cafe die. They ain't die. Listen, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I've seen things get beat the funk up in Jimmy's Cafe,
Speaker 1: Like like, they beat you up and then they chell
Speaker 1: that's the craziest and then they have a dream with
Speaker 1: you after that. That was hard, and queens it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you get beat up, you gotta cloth. But the Brons
Speaker 1: they beat you up and then they pick you up
Speaker 1: and say are you okay? And then they make sure
Speaker 1: you're good. That's the only place I ever see that now,
Speaker 1: the Bronx being the birthplace of hip hop, the fact
Speaker 1: that we got a bully shout out table, we got
Speaker 1: what's what married? Don't you about? That's a no, I'm old,
Speaker 1: but don't. Other than that, it hasn't ever bothered you
Speaker 1: that the Bronx wasn't at the forefront of hip hop.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course it never really bothered me, but
Speaker 1: it was like that was one of my goals, Like
Speaker 1: we gotta put the Bronx back on the map, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta put the bronze
Speaker 1: back on the map. So are you're watching you see
Speaker 1: a boogie and them doing anything? You see, don't you?
Speaker 1: And I'm actually being from my hood, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, young boys from the hood. Okay, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So actually they remember when we shot the video and
Speaker 1: they looked right from right down a bit, you know that.
Speaker 1: So they actually from the hood. So watching your boys, queen,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, You've got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with route for him, you know. So it's it's happy.
Speaker 1: It's good to see that. It's it's good to see
Speaker 1: the resurgence of just content and lyrics like you know,
Speaker 1: you see davies, like you hear artists the actually you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you hear people rapping again.
Speaker 1: This is good to do that. Like, like I like
Speaker 1: the meals, I like all that you feel, So that hell,
Speaker 1: yet like that ship make you and you'd be like this,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you'd be in the clubs.
Speaker 1: They sound christy. The quality is good. It's good music.
Speaker 1: You can't take nothing away from it. But every now
Speaker 1: and then I want to hear some ship that makes
Speaker 1: me like, damn, get a little. They make you want
Speaker 1: to tie your shoe. I'm not saying don't play them.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, instead of playing them twenty times a day,
Speaker 1: played them like you know what I'm saying. And you know,
Speaker 1: spress the love. So like I stayed in Maryland, but
Speaker 1: you know I problem closer to d C. So you
Speaker 1: know I run around a d C over closing and
Speaker 1: homie like. I don't even know a bookie in them only,
Speaker 1: but but I know that state. They from my homie hood.
Speaker 1: They beat their son. They'd be with his little brothers
Speaker 1: when they ship come on. I go crazy with all
Speaker 1: New York niggers should come on, period, especially niggas I
Speaker 1: funk with. It's just a different vibent all the way
Speaker 1: up came out. Yeah, I used to go to every
Speaker 1: fucking club and it was like it was it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like right out here. I'd be feeling like
Speaker 1: that's how we gotta do it in you know, I sweet,
Speaker 1: like it's so genuine when I repost nigga s, I
Speaker 1: don't even know whoever I f. I don only follow
Speaker 1: people I know, man, I might follow your man because
Speaker 1: we're all here. So if I see something I like
Speaker 1: it and I'm reposting it, you ain't got the eggs.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. Like, it's just I don't
Speaker 1: know why we we we just don't don't show love.
Speaker 1: But you only like I get a crazy good energy
Speaker 1: when my nigga ship come on down there, yo. And
Speaker 1: that's why we started this. It's because we want to
Speaker 1: give our legends flowers when they could smell them, and
Speaker 1: trees when they can inhell them. Because so many people
Speaker 1: are fucking lost. So many people say that you washed
Speaker 1: up when you got ten years in this game. So
Speaker 1: many people say that you're not the guy because the
Speaker 1: other guys the guy that we have a chance to
Speaker 1: get money. Sometimes, yeah, yeah we have. You know what
Speaker 1: it is? We have to change that because one day
Speaker 1: I was in Live Nation, right and Live Nation. I
Speaker 1: looked at it. They rised them. They had nothing but
Speaker 1: white boys doing sixty dates all this ship and they
Speaker 1: was all older than me, and I looked and I said, damn,
Speaker 1: why can't hip hop do that? And then you know,
Speaker 1: you know our call called from master Flex, you know.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how anybody feel about from master
Speaker 1: Flex personally, but I'm gonna tell you how much I
Speaker 1: feel about for master Flex. For master FlexAID fuck that, Nori,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what funk? What it's like? We
Speaker 1: gotta make it so our artists could be at least
Speaker 1: fourteen dates on their own New York artists, right, And
Speaker 1: at first I said flex word, but then he said
Speaker 1: And then I turned on the radio because my job,
Speaker 1: living in Miami, I'm doing Dream Champs one and around.
Speaker 1: And then I heard that's how we on it, That's
Speaker 1: how we on it. And I said, this Nickel deserves
Speaker 1: this ship. There's a lot of people who don't. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of people who get fame, they get money,
Speaker 1: they get it, and they just go when they could
Speaker 1: go out everybody. I couldn't have been more happy in
Speaker 1: the world when I heard master Flex playing your record,
Speaker 1: not playing your record, staying on your It's a difference.
Speaker 1: You can play, but we're not living in the nineties.
Speaker 1: In the nineties, you played record one time, You're going,
Speaker 1: You're going now you gotta play your every night and
Speaker 1: he's been playing every single master Flex. We appreciate you
Speaker 1: respecting the Grind, Like Yo, he came home and they grunding,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not just talking ground and talking about two
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands, maybe some short m spent like grind
Speaker 1: and this nigga grund and home everything out of pocket
Speaker 1: and you're still not even on the label because I
Speaker 1: just really I want to do one independent, but the
Speaker 1: platform is being laid, you know what I'm saying to consistency,
Speaker 1: shout out to Flex slave. Even when you called me,
Speaker 1: I was I don't even know. I think I was
Speaker 1: in Miami and I was in my I think I
Speaker 1: was in l A and Sonning. You called me like
Speaker 1: seven in the morning and in the morning like like Yo,
Speaker 1: this fracket is fired. I need you to put everything
Speaker 1: you copy. You know what I'm saying. It was just
Speaker 1: really as genuine. It's like damn, and that's how we've
Speaker 1: always been. It's just real ship. And it's like when
Speaker 1: you get that field and you see people rooming for
Speaker 1: you and you know that you did everything right. I
Speaker 1: ain't never compromised my principles, my moral and it came back,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, It's coming back. And it's
Speaker 1: just like then be able to see that and then
Speaker 1: be able to be appreciated, especially by the people that
Speaker 1: you appreciate, like this is a legend to me, Like
Speaker 1: that day one. I remember when he came in front
Speaker 1: of Justice and played because that was an old second man,
Speaker 1: I remember when you played Bend from TV from and
Speaker 1: I'm standing in there like this before and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here like this, yo, this ship is this is classic.
Speaker 1: He was like, listen my name when he played that ship,
Speaker 1: just fucking he just blasted with sitting right for he
Speaker 1: flashed that ship. I was just at all just looking
Speaker 1: at him like damn man. And then and to see
Speaker 1: where that ship went was like I needed to get
Speaker 1: on this sweating off. This sounds like, damn man, I
Speaker 1: only have to get a person of that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So to be in the presence and
Speaker 1: be respected by the people that you love and respect
Speaker 1: and then like and I tell people all the time,
Speaker 1: the artist that I love is because when you listen
Speaker 1: to their music, you feel like you know them, and
Speaker 1: when you listen to normy music, you really know him.
Speaker 1: It's true. You know what I'm saying, Like, it ain't
Speaker 1: no bullshit, it ain't yo, this is just some song
Speaker 1: I me. This is Mary Money. So when you meet
Speaker 1: him and you look at you like this is exact
Speaker 1: and that's what used to beat for me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Some people can separate the music from
Speaker 1: the artist. I don't. I'm not able to do that
Speaker 1: because once you don't smart what you're talking, I'm turned off.
Speaker 1: It's not authentic. So this is this is a legend.
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite artists old times. And
Speaker 1: the nigga said, I don't even smoke like that I sell.
Speaker 1: I don't even drink like I don't drink like that.
Speaker 1: No money who says that like he says, sometimes I
Speaker 1: just chill like money. Those songs I was up knowing
Speaker 1: for listening to them chips and got me through my
Speaker 1: bid like you know something and didn't knowing and you
Speaker 1: met me and didn't mad me like he was like
Speaker 1: this bron feral. So when you when you're able to
Speaker 1: get love and respect from people you respect, that's what
Speaker 1: you're doing for the rest of it, you don't even matter.
Speaker 1: But that's how we when you never need security enough
Speaker 1: when you live, well, you know what I mean, just
Speaker 1: keep it to it. You know what the crazy thing
Speaker 1: is is till I won't bring it back. I'll come
Speaker 1: back to that on it. But Chierlie, you are not
Speaker 1: only the one of the first child rappers, you're actually
Speaker 1: the first gangster rappers. Like for real though like like
Speaker 1: like I'm sorry, I don't know the Philly boys, but
Speaker 1: I mean identify as New York artists because at one
Speaker 1: point we came from living our lyrics and you was
Speaker 1: one of them guys that actually lived in your lyrics. Actually, girls,
Speaker 1: nobody see your Black TV interview where you actually explain
Speaker 1: how it happened. But the thing about it is what
Speaker 1: people don't understand is you really really do it. Like
Speaker 1: they look at this interview and they're thinking, like you're
Speaker 1: saying it because you just when But this is this
Speaker 1: is some real ship. It was real Shipio, your girl's brother,
Speaker 1: daughter's uncle. God bless you know, for sugar, blessed rest
Speaker 1: in peace on But yo, like yo, you know what
Speaker 1: killed me on me is that they And I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to downplay because that took a man's life. I
Speaker 1: take full response, like I can't. You don't turn back
Speaker 1: the hands of time. And that's to me, that's the
Speaker 1: worst thing you could do because even if you raiped
Speaker 1: somebody as as much as we shown that, I still
Speaker 1: have my daughter right here. She's going, she's going, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I took somebody's life. I
Speaker 1: used to watch his son, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So do you know that apartment cutting off? But that
Speaker 1: was the most interesting part about it was when you
Speaker 1: were in Black. I was talking to you and we
Speaker 1: all love Blad. I love Black too, But he's kind
Speaker 1: of like the police, right what I mean, are you trying?
Speaker 1: Like he's really trying to get the answers, Like he's
Speaker 1: gonna ask you some ship that couldn't get you incriminated,
Speaker 1: but you up to you. And that was one of
Speaker 1: the most honorable things. I mean, watching it was it
Speaker 1: was like he was not proud of it. You just
Speaker 1: was like, y'all, this song that happened because you know what,
Speaker 1: let me just say, because we finish, that's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. That's a difference from my real name. You
Speaker 1: don't see what I'm saying. He's just one of my
Speaker 1: best friends since we was kids. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we we've been through just about everything, Like I
Speaker 1: know everything about what was going on that time. I
Speaker 1: know everything he was dealing with and to be when
Speaker 1: we always been authentic, So watch my man and knowing
Speaker 1: everything around me, like having excellent pistol these niggas around
Speaker 1: and knowing that these was the biggest gangses we ever
Speaker 1: knew in our lives. Right, And when they have conversations
Speaker 1: with you, they're not glorifying glom. Yeah, you about the
Speaker 1: big I'm gonna continue to bigging you up because a
Speaker 1: lot of people would have took your position as a
Speaker 1: rapper that actually has a body and would have got
Speaker 1: gonna fly. I said, I killed that nigge are doing.
Speaker 1: It was the exactly like I don't want to name
Speaker 1: the artist name, but he's online told he beat the
Speaker 1: case because he shot the nig like and he's online.
Speaker 1: But you it was the exact And I looked at
Speaker 1: you and mind you. I had a relationship with you forever.
Speaker 1: We was gonna run us one of my shows. Your
Speaker 1: father's coming to my shows, us coming to im, like
Speaker 1: I've seen you on the news, big money back, but
Speaker 1: I just want to respect you. I just want to
Speaker 1: say that that that interview, and I looked at it,
Speaker 1: and I looked at the grown man in you, and
Speaker 1: I looked at how you you you held yourself down,
Speaker 1: and I looked at how you also because that was
Speaker 1: your girl's brother, and I looked at how you were
Speaker 1: so careful and so conscious, and I just want to
Speaker 1: tell you that is some real ship. We understand we
Speaker 1: can't bring back this man's life, but everything you're doing
Speaker 1: right now, it's actually the illest ship in the world
Speaker 1: because you're not You're easy. This is the word we
Speaker 1: lose were just growing up. When we grow up at
Speaker 1: we lose sight of life because you hear about niggas
Speaker 1: getting shot and killed and see it and Mike do
Speaker 1: it or whatever. So but when you think about it,
Speaker 1: like yo, even that nigger he got kids moves and
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's what fifteen years later,
Speaker 1: twenty years later for me then and it's like, what
Speaker 1: thing about the biggest beef you had twenty years ago?
Speaker 1: It was that worth it that you were ready to
Speaker 1: teach it and now you're looking at it like that
Speaker 1: was some silly ship. What I'm saying, really, is it
Speaker 1: the case that's really worth it? When you come talking
Speaker 1: about the whole bunch of years And at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it was regular ship like that, like nothing,
Speaker 1: It was regular ship. I looked at it like I
Speaker 1: you know, like I know, my saint pussy. But we
Speaker 1: hung with niggas then, so I'm like, man, it was
Speaker 1: regular everyday ship, not to be glorified, like that's what
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Speaker 1: to Drink Chaps Radio with Rapper and R and d
Speaker 1: j FN. But now I need you to describe as
Speaker 1: situation because my partner not if an campone. He's standing
Speaker 1: over there right. Me and him was in jail together, right,
Speaker 1: We was in d FY right. Then we came home
Speaker 1: and he caught a case. So I could never really
Speaker 1: relate to his case because he actually was famous when
Speaker 1: we was in jail together. I was not famous. Then
Speaker 1: he caught a case and then he went up and off, right,
Speaker 1: But I could never relate because he was camponed. He
Speaker 1: was like he was not he was not camponed with
Speaker 1: each other. So I just want you to describe to
Speaker 1: people how hard or maybe it I think it was
Speaker 1: a double edged sward is because you're famous and so
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, they have some people that did
Speaker 1: chier'all inmates, whether it's CEO, and then you gonna have
Speaker 1: some seals that Nigga, he was something, same same ship,
Speaker 1: same people trying to give you extra foods, some people
Speaker 1: trying not to feed you. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just, you know, everybody different. I just took it
Speaker 1: in stride. But what I found, especially when I was
Speaker 1: at Sing Sing because when I got the Sing Sing
Speaker 1: is is a large population of black police. So and
Speaker 1: then most of them is from the city, so it
Speaker 1: just so happens. I'm in my mid thirties, so a
Speaker 1: lot of them is around the same age age, so
Speaker 1: you know, they knew one motherfucker was so it was
Speaker 1: ill that even the motherfucker's that hate it, like the
Speaker 1: Dick had niggas, and Nigga was so laid back with
Speaker 1: it that even the Dick had niggas. After where I
Speaker 1: had to be like like another posst to be like, man,
Speaker 1: come on, I got niggers on that chilling man whatever,
Speaker 1: So I just beat me man, and let everybody beat
Speaker 1: them and everything have in a way it's supposed to happen.
Speaker 1: I've never been bussy, and don't nobody never. But we're
Speaker 1: not here for that. We're not here for that. We're
Speaker 1: here to get some money and bring the question because again,
Speaker 1: my partner, one of my best friends, and then both
Speaker 1: of these gods and my best they both come back
Speaker 1: since some of that sens come back. Right. But but again, um,
Speaker 1: I can't relate to being famous and being in jail
Speaker 1: like I was famous in jail for three days, that's it,
Speaker 1: and I was the lawyer, right, but you actually have
Speaker 1: some fame, right, and then it is a robbery again,
Speaker 1: all right, so you just just just take us from there.
Speaker 1: You had a robbery charge and we heard you you
Speaker 1: say that you didn't do it. Definitely, I definitely believe you.
Speaker 1: I really believe you, like like, I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: need to lie about I did seven four two years.
Speaker 1: I'm so so I didn't be like, yeah I did it.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have did it. You know, it was it
Speaker 1: was like, have you ever been to jail prior to that?
Speaker 1: Or no? You know I did a couple of days
Speaker 1: and a couple of days. All right, So now you
Speaker 1: cop out, I didn't blue trial. You blue trial. Wow,
Speaker 1: we didn't know that. Okay, so you blue trial and
Speaker 1: now you go up state now and now it's this
Speaker 1: people know this is my son day you described that
Speaker 1: to me. For me, it was just unreal, you know
Speaker 1: what what I'm saying, Like, you you know, you one
Speaker 1: years old, you're sitting to jail, you signed the violator
Speaker 1: million dollar deal. I know, I know your budget, and
Speaker 1: you know what your budget. Remember that I was watching.
Speaker 1: I was watching. It was I held him. I hadn't
Speaker 1: watch because you don't want you're gonna go to the
Speaker 1: shiant story. But so yeah, so you know, you you
Speaker 1: you're going up north and you're sitting first you on
Speaker 1: the island for a couple of months, and you think
Speaker 1: you're coming home and you're figuring and you know as
Speaker 1: soon as you But I blew trial and then went
Speaker 1: to the island. Like I wasn't in g and fighting
Speaker 1: my case. I was on fighting my cases. So I
Speaker 1: was you know what I'm saying, I was playing from
Speaker 1: the outside, you're just thinking this ain't gonna happen, like
Speaker 1: I ain't doing it, I ain't going to jail, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Then you start realizing how dirty
Speaker 1: this system is. You know what I'm saying, How a
Speaker 1: bunch of ship just don't unless you got to be
Speaker 1: really serious about what you're doing. You know, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you can't take for granted that you in't. So you're
Speaker 1: going that's that's not a reality, especially from our communities,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, It's just completely different. So
Speaker 1: when you're sitting there and you're like Dawn just blue
Speaker 1: trial and you don't even know when I was on
Speaker 1: the aland even know what I was being sensed to.
Speaker 1: But what what what if you were the blue? Um?
Speaker 1: What what you did? God bless? But because they always
Speaker 1: tell you, they say you could, you would take this
Speaker 1: play or you can't off taking a track. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: in hindsight, you said didn't like But you gotta realize
Speaker 1: you didn't do it. Your whole life. You've been fucked up. Yea, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't even a conversation when you didn't do it. Man,
Speaker 1: that's even more so more so. Now I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I knew you, and I knew you didn't do it
Speaker 1: like I ain't got a lie. I knew you did
Speaker 1: a lot of a a lot of ship because I can
Speaker 1: see it in yours. But I was like, yo, right now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna describe me, me and my song. Right, Justice
Speaker 1: is my ship. That was everybody ship. It was my ship,
Speaker 1: like I ain't gonna lie. I hated puff Daddy. You
Speaker 1: can keep this and we're not editing this. No. I
Speaker 1: hated puff Daddy like I don't hate it when he
Speaker 1: represented at the time because me and Bone was army,
Speaker 1: came niggers and these guys are on shiny suits. So
Speaker 1: I just hated what he represented at the time. But
Speaker 1: I love this project. He made some great fried chicken.
Speaker 1: So I used to go to Justice all the time. Right,
Speaker 1: So it was this room up, this new artist, he's
Speaker 1: supposed to be the new Biggie Smalls, right, and my
Speaker 1: correct he could stop me. It was tetause I practice it.
Speaker 1: I practice it, like I said, you ain't practice. I
Speaker 1: watched you the pretice class. It might seem practice, right.
Speaker 1: But there was this new artist. His name was Shane,
Speaker 1: so Sean was supposed to be the new Biggie Smalls,
Speaker 1: but nobody knew how he looked on the tape. We
Speaker 1: nobody know how he looked, so we we heard like,
Speaker 1: I think he did like a couple of bars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but so he felt like he was heavy. But
Speaker 1: when we seen him, I was like, no, that's just back.
Speaker 1: But I see them seem like he just didn't look
Speaker 1: like me. So it was just it was just it
Speaker 1: was a thrown off. So we outside and Buff goes,
Speaker 1: buff Um. I'm about to say text, but I know
Speaker 1: it wasn't a text, but he said, Yo, go outside
Speaker 1: and say hi to Um my new artist. So I
Speaker 1: go outside, said it, what's up to him? And Nigga
Speaker 1: was like you you know because Shine is a smooth
Speaker 1: niggas and he was like you, I like your ship.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the thing. I said, are you Shine?
Speaker 1: He goes, yes, I'm Shine. I'm like, come thrown not not.
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed. I'm not. It just I thought he was
Speaker 1: would be a heavy person that I thought he was
Speaker 1: gonna be fat. So I'm like, ahhight cool. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happens, right, I text Chris Light. Chris like
Speaker 1: what's Chris there? My light? He was there? So I
Speaker 1: text Mike Mike um and Mike is like, Yo, what's up?
Speaker 1: If you need me to pay for the bell, because
Speaker 1: that's that's my style. Back then just run up from
Speaker 1: ship and be like, let take care of it. But
Speaker 1: I don't describe this scene. So for some reason, Seane
Speaker 1: starts frying back. Then he goes kicking his ship. So
Speaker 1: I robbed Tom your man. Tom. Tom came Tom bullg
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't in my mind, I felt
Speaker 1: like he pushed you. Like happened was this? It was
Speaker 1: either Tone was outside and I think it was either
Speaker 1: Mad Middleton. So they came and was like, Yo, they're outside,
Speaker 1: Shina nor outside. Tom didn't really want me to do it.
Speaker 1: Tone was like no, I might sack and I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: if are you crazy? You know what I'm thinking, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kill him. So he brought me up this so
Speaker 1: homes just sitting there. Wait wait wait wait wait WAITI
Speaker 1: that's the part I didn't know. I didn't know. Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, you gotta relax, you gotta relax. Got ever like,
Speaker 1: So this is the part that I didn't know, the
Speaker 1: part that I didn't know was when you walked outside,
Speaker 1: did you have that in your mind already here at
Speaker 1: my son. That's only so. So that's the part I
Speaker 1: didn't know, is that because mind you, I think I
Speaker 1: meant you like two minutes or twelve minutes, so that
Speaker 1: and we chilled. But then you came and then that
Speaker 1: part I needed that bellon dollar Nix because that's what
Speaker 1: Remember in the industry, it was running. He got a
Speaker 1: million in UM Publishing and a million on the deal.
Speaker 1: We had never heard of this in the industry, yeah, shine,
Speaker 1: we had never heard of Everybody was expecting him this
Speaker 1: to be. It was supposed to be the craziest ship
Speaker 1: in the world. Mice comes outside and he's chilling, and
Speaker 1: he's watching us round and I wronged. And for some reason,
Speaker 1: I feel like I never got this part of the story.
Speaker 1: I felt like you looked at me and say, what nice.
Speaker 1: It's like in my mind you already am I correct?
Speaker 1: Look like you looked at me like, I know you
Speaker 1: know Brox you're brox n too. You gotta relaxed, right,
Speaker 1: And then I swear to GoF because I had never
Speaker 1: heard you run, and I ain't gonna lie. I might
Speaker 1: be wrong. But I feel like you said something in
Speaker 1: my palm and then I got my left arm and
Speaker 1: you said, that's the types. I ain't gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: can't even tell you what I said that I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I was like, oh my god, and Shine
Speaker 1: he respectfully bowed out. Am I correct, he was after
Speaker 1: about two rounds. It's just he was like two and
Speaker 1: a half. Because that happen does happened around. He was
Speaker 1: just like that's over. And then I got Texas people
Speaker 1: was like I died on the streets and Shine had
Speaker 1: hit me after that and said both told me I
Speaker 1: can't ryme on the street no more. Now. He told
Speaker 1: me that we didn't know that's my man, Shine, listen,
Speaker 1: that's my man. We felt like together, that's that's my nigga.
Speaker 1: But but but right after that we have fell out
Speaker 1: because prior to that, because I felt like I felt
Speaker 1: like you kind of funked up his deal a little bit.
Speaker 1: It was a lot because he came to me and
Speaker 1: he told me to say anything that was like he
Speaker 1: don't want me to run. And that's when him and
Speaker 1: post going sideway. After that situation, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: He came to reason the two together, you know, because
Speaker 1: him and not Naji was cool. So Nadre's always had
Speaker 1: me around and I think like right after that, we
Speaker 1: won't got to fight. It was it was like a
Speaker 1: big thing. Me Shine, his no one of his little
Speaker 1: man and his little man's. We got into the puff house.
Speaker 1: I there, yea at the and Hampton's had a party
Speaker 1: in here and we came onf there and it was
Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks after that. So I see
Speaker 1: Shan give him a pan and when he's being like
Speaker 1: he giving you fake love and he said it all
Speaker 1: out laugh Ni. He was like that. He was about
Speaker 1: five to I'm like, what who are you talking to it?
Speaker 1: What are you? What are you talking about? He's like
Speaker 1: fun that you run around you know too much. He's
Speaker 1: running around saying you killed him and that whatever. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: it was me. He was running around and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking about me? I'm sorry, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: We're not gonna do this. I didn't think. It's not
Speaker 1: that I want to be honest something. Shine had the
Speaker 1: biggest bucks at this time, he had the biggest bars.
Speaker 1: So for me to just meet this nigger and this
Speaker 1: is like a tear him up. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I told everybody it was me. It was me. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. We put that around. I said, what
Speaker 1: did I say? Said I was the one who guys
Speaker 1: the battle? I did because I again, I'm gonna reiterate
Speaker 1: this whole situation. Right, I'm a hood nigger. I know.
Speaker 1: I know certain people don't know, like you know how
Speaker 1: queens get down all. You know, I don't I know
Speaker 1: other people some so a lot of people look at
Speaker 1: you and just be like you from queens. That's it's false.
Speaker 1: They got to relax, right, But I looked at Mice.
Speaker 1: Mice gave me. I still to this day, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't know because me and him got bug out.
Speaker 1: The guy brow so I don't remember. It was it
Speaker 1: was a something and I look bird, I fell back,
Speaker 1: But I know that look I gave my man. This
Speaker 1: is my word. I gave my man that I'm on
Speaker 1: the a side. Tell about fourteen blood niggas. I felt
Speaker 1: with him a small wing, and my man's on the
Speaker 1: other side. These my niggas, though my nigga pooch Brooklyn
Speaker 1: nigga Pooch, he gets into it, one of the niggas
Speaker 1: stepped on it, broke his card. Hears on the visit,
Speaker 1: he hit something that cart heards on taking out. You know,
Speaker 1: he went down. I think for the step for my
Speaker 1: mom very. But anyway, whatever happened, Pooch popped on the bed.
Speaker 1: So the nigga all the blood is on my side.
Speaker 1: So they're like they're gonna pop on the niggas so
Speaker 1: ithing like damn. They're like, you cheat. Man. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to and you gave him. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to present all the situation, but I already seen
Speaker 1: the thing. The boy didn't swung on the nigga race,
Speaker 1: so the thing that went too far. So I went
Speaker 1: to that game and I gave him the eye like
Speaker 1: like I can't that's somebody your mice gave me the eye.
Speaker 1: It was like it was like I said, I realized
Speaker 1: because it was like whatever he did, it was like, nigga,
Speaker 1: you on, why are you want to rhyme with us?
Speaker 1: And I sat and I said, Dad, we had a
Speaker 1: whole conversation just right here, and I loved and I said, damn,
Speaker 1: and your boy I did not know what she was
Speaker 1: gonna do. Though, in all due respects, I thought you
Speaker 1: was okay, but then you rhymed, and I realized you
Speaker 1: might have stopped the whole block. I didn't even the
Speaker 1: police started clapping. I think the police is in the
Speaker 1: corner like that the clues then it was it was
Speaker 1: my it was you know, it was so legendary. That
Speaker 1: was a legendary hip hop moment. Do you realize I
Speaker 1: letting that that was? I mean, when I hear what
Speaker 1: you said, like in my mind it was because you know,
Speaker 1: you don't you don't want to over over push yourself
Speaker 1: because then this she was big. I've seen it from
Speaker 1: my prospect, I'm like, this was the industry was then
Speaker 1: normally one of my favorite artists deal anybody's then I
Speaker 1: just did some ship that's probably gonna go down or
Speaker 1: I'm thinking it's that big exactly. So aside him right
Speaker 1: there the next day. The next day it was like
Speaker 1: you made the preek for me to Atlanta that we
Speaker 1: have like ten millions in like three days. This is
Speaker 1: the reason why I know, because because um I eboded
Speaker 1: Mike lightly and then they come out to day on
Speaker 1: media like what happened? You know, I was out already,
Speaker 1: but I was like, damn, you ain't gonna say something.
Speaker 1: I told you to come here and that nigga. But listen,
Speaker 1: and all due respect, I've never seen somebody beat that
Speaker 1: like battle rap. When I think about a rap, I
Speaker 1: don't think of smack D d D. I think of
Speaker 1: what you did that night. That night, you looked at
Speaker 1: that man in his face. Didn't disrespect him, but you
Speaker 1: disrespected him in another way because you looked at his
Speaker 1: flaws and you just made it and you just kept
Speaker 1: hitting him with punch lines. And then he kept rhyming.
Speaker 1: He kept rhyming, not against you, which was wrong because
Speaker 1: like you took a personal off. You directed every ball
Speaker 1: towards his motherfucker. And then this is kept kicking rhymes
Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with my mice. He took advantage.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a man. You got to keep
Speaker 1: swinging as a man. Took advantage of respect that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I think Sean was an artist.
Speaker 1: He was an artist, artist artist who's had that when
Speaker 1: gimmick around him. You know what I'm saying, I'm not
Speaker 1: even gim you know the whole biggie he said, sounding
Speaker 1: the bad voice, sounding like Biggy, but he was official nigger,
Speaker 1: a lot of nigga. But what I'm saying is I'm
Speaker 1: fosted him too. I ain't saying nothing bad about him.
Speaker 1: This is different, but this is a different some MC ship.
Speaker 1: It's like but that day I'm saying that, I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: leg I don't want to run about the my song.
Speaker 1: I don't nothing. It's like in the finals, like step
Speaker 1: All in the when Lebron was just throwing this ship
Speaker 1: like Nigga Nikea. You know it's it's really and you
Speaker 1: know what it is. This is this is the thing.
Speaker 1: We should celebrate these moments in hip hop. We should
Speaker 1: actually sit back and be like, you know what, and
Speaker 1: Sean too, Sean Sean called me your Sean hit me.
Speaker 1: It was like, man, you killed me on that ship.
Speaker 1: Definitely what you got to be. Oh no, this is
Speaker 1: this is pretty instance. This is important. That's what this
Speaker 1: is important. You know me me and you know he
Speaker 1: called me years later like we never had that real
Speaker 1: conversation because we had a little and were we both
Speaker 1: struggled and I used to I love like I actually
Speaker 1: had love for Sean because he was one of us
Speaker 1: and nice to be in the studio, like even after
Speaker 1: that Ship, I used to be in the studio with
Speaker 1: Sean helping him like records, like he let me hear Ship,
Speaker 1: like now do this, do that? But this was my nigga.
Speaker 1: But the rumor was was the room was so bad
Speaker 1: because I ain't gonna lie. That moment was hell. It was.
Speaker 1: It was like he was right around, no no, no, relaxed,
Speaker 1: no no, And that was my nigga and he's just
Speaker 1: being it like he respected me as an artist. I
Speaker 1: said what I did with him, and like he'd be
Speaker 1: in the studio, then we'll go to the studio. He
Speaker 1: let me hear Ship and I'm like, oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the award, this and that before he dropped the who
Speaker 1: want to fun with us? And she's like I heard that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was, and I was,
Speaker 1: and I got locked up when he first started playing.
Speaker 1: I never was there to actually see Sean even dropping
Speaker 1: the music, like I was just in the studio, y'all
Speaker 1: said when he first started and him and Puff was
Speaker 1: actually going through Ship like there was the Niggas movie.
Speaker 1: I know Ship. It was like I was in the
Speaker 1: intricate like when Puff and Mace was Beef and Puff
Speaker 1: and Sean would be like I was a and on
Speaker 1: um double up like I e n on that project
Speaker 1: and the project I went out. I went out to
Speaker 1: the Bahamas with Mae. He flew me out there and
Speaker 1: I was in the studio him every day recording this album.
Speaker 1: He didn't even let Puff come in the room. No way,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna tell you this. But then afterwards Puff came
Speaker 1: to listen to it. It was like he threw his
Speaker 1: little spin on it and trying to He pushed me
Speaker 1: out of it because I was a young thing coming
Speaker 1: up in the game. Like, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: out here, You got your man's with you, but you
Speaker 1: know this is my project? Did he tell you you're
Speaker 1: your man's in? He said, you got your man's enough.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We was the man like
Speaker 1: you're you're man. You know what I'm saying That we
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying That we were added either.
Speaker 1: That's what me and Puff grown like because there was
Speaker 1: a I was me and he was him, and I
Speaker 1: wasn't relinquishing who I was. Only far much money you got.
Speaker 1: I don't care about bad boy shit. I'm me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm here with my man. I'm
Speaker 1: with him, So if he ain't with you, then I'm
Speaker 1: not with you. And that's how my stance was with anything,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when he brought me
Speaker 1: in the studio with him and I'm listening to this
Speaker 1: and the puppa come and listen, He's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want like that, and I'm like, that ship is dope, Maze,
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's talking about. He was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know you know how puppet is. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I know you got your
Speaker 1: minds and nothing with you, but I don't really I
Speaker 1: just need me and you to talk. And I'm yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: He brought me here though for a reason. He was
Speaker 1: like yeah, and he'd be talking to Maz like your
Speaker 1: mace listen. You know what I'm saying. I don't want
Speaker 1: to go through all lessen what I'm saying. You got you.
Speaker 1: So you know when we had that I capture the ship,
Speaker 1: we went through that that little bit I remember went
Speaker 1: one time we was in behind us and I never
Speaker 1: forget it, and it was just like you know, puppets competitive,
Speaker 1: so they can't say what every they want that nigga
Speaker 1: puppets competitive. So you know, he knew I was a
Speaker 1: streating and he knew that I had my respecting to stream.
Speaker 1: He just them. I remember, I remember he suked him home.
Speaker 1: So I was there with Mace that wasn't even here.
Speaker 1: It wasn't having to do a tone or nothing. And
Speaker 1: I was there with Mace, and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I was dead Wolf, Like God, bless of that wolf.
Speaker 1: We me in this room every night. But that's that
Speaker 1: was the last time I've really seen wolf was in
Speaker 1: the Bahamas. He used to bring me in this room
Speaker 1: every night, like he were talking to me and kicking
Speaker 1: on me because we're both brons niggers, and I was
Speaker 1: like the young uncle comes. So he used to get
Speaker 1: me jews. So anyway, we inside. I don't know where
Speaker 1: he was. I don't think he was in the studio.
Speaker 1: I think we're somewhere. He brought Jlo in a month
Speaker 1: there with he brought jo It was a bit big
Speaker 1: one story. No I ain't no real story, but she
Speaker 1: was there and she used to come talk with us
Speaker 1: and to get with a look like we'll be in
Speaker 1: the studio. She come same like she'd come talking to me,
Speaker 1: and so I used to see and she kicked and
Speaker 1: she was cool with us. We're sitting there and I'm like,
Speaker 1: Jlo was flawless. I haven't seen Jail one years, but
Speaker 1: night Chair did. Of course you did. Nigger An said
Speaker 1: that I want me, she want first. That's a real real,
Speaker 1: it's real, that's real. Jail looked like somebody just mat
Speaker 1: it't really I'm just sitting there looking at her like
Speaker 1: this real aless. So anyway, me and Puff was going,
Speaker 1: you know, we just this and that, and then I'm
Speaker 1: was in the room or something. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what it was. So we're talking mega pol you know
Speaker 1: I could do this, and I do this like yeah,
Speaker 1: I know this is not so. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what he said to me. But somehow we started
Speaker 1: like wrestling. Somehow it was a wrestle. We had like
Speaker 1: a wrestling match. I don't know if he remembers this
Speaker 1: ship with this ship is so listen wrestling going on.
Speaker 1: It wasn't wrestling. Listen, we gotta talk. It wasn't really arresting.
Speaker 1: But I don't know who I was it just got
Speaker 1: into some ego versus ego and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know who, I don't know what happened, but are you
Speaker 1: like my nigga? I say, you puff? If I grab it,
Speaker 1: you can't get out yall what you're saying? I see
Speaker 1: him quickly. If I wrap, you're not going nowhere. You
Speaker 1: want to pet But everybody I've died before, you have
Speaker 1: women the hell money and not the hello. I just
Speaker 1: wrapping up and then they was fighting for did like,
Speaker 1: I'm not puff, You're not getting out of this. I
Speaker 1: got to my nigga, I'm holding you know. The man
Speaker 1: just comment fellas and it was manigat mad and the
Speaker 1: man told me, if I I bet, you get ourselves,
Speaker 1: what do you want to be? Like, what are you
Speaker 1: willing to bet? He said, I bet? I don't even
Speaker 1: know what we bet. I know that Ning was on
Speaker 1: the full scorn. Man. I was a coupy, some crazy
Speaker 1: like I didn't minute to walk into that and I
Speaker 1: shot said he's like he's when I let him go,
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, let me go because I
Speaker 1: never stop were correction tomorrow. He made that, you know
Speaker 1: like that, and I think from that moment we had
Speaker 1: a little bit more rish black he was. But you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, shout out to puff Man because
Speaker 1: you know, you know why I might you know why um.
Speaker 1: At first, when I was competing with them, I always
Speaker 1: wanted to say them niggas, fu a nahs, fucking Paul,
Speaker 1: fucker jay Z everywhere, right. But then when I started
Speaker 1: competing with them, I started to realize how important they
Speaker 1: are to our cultures. So when I see a NAS,
Speaker 1: I always want to big him up. I always want
Speaker 1: to stop and give him a hug. When I see
Speaker 1: a pup, it's the same thing. When I see a
Speaker 1: J I always want to stop and just give them
Speaker 1: love because the thing about our culture is we don't
Speaker 1: celebrate our cultures. Are you're telling them you gotta relax
Speaker 1: and then grabbed the bottom even though we don't even
Speaker 1: want the bottom to grab the bottom. Calory though there
Speaker 1: this record warding Yo've know, read them two nig j
Speaker 1: and puff them two individuals may have like probably like
Speaker 1: fifty percentator influence over the coach, saying over the whole coach.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. So at one point, any
Speaker 1: whole crew to not to take not from away from
Speaker 1: the At one point, I used to compete with them
Speaker 1: so much that I never actually understood their genius. Sometimes
Speaker 1: when you're trying to be on the same level with somebody,
Speaker 1: you don't understand it. Sometimes when you're blessing, you can't
Speaker 1: see someone. You can't see somebody else's a blessing because
Speaker 1: you're you're living in your blessings. Right. So when I
Speaker 1: when I came up and everything was you know, you know,
Speaker 1: percolating and popping, I started to realize that, Damn, all
Speaker 1: these years I funked up because I was trying to
Speaker 1: be the next Rocket Feller, always trying to be the
Speaker 1: next bad boy. They're always trying to And then when
Speaker 1: I'm really back and I said, damn, this whole time, nas,
Speaker 1: I should have been making you up this whole time.
Speaker 1: That's my fault. That ain't his fault, because if he
Speaker 1: don't fun with me, that's his fault. But my fault
Speaker 1: is I gotta, I gotta, I gotta appreciate chi, I
Speaker 1: gotta appreciate on my song, I gotta appreciate it. That's
Speaker 1: okay that his dream champs change this form. We just
Speaker 1: do it. But and that's what I want to keep
Speaker 1: continue to promoting. I want to continue to promote us,
Speaker 1: bigging up us because if we don't pick up us,
Speaker 1: because who's gonna pick us up? You know your mother, right,
Speaker 1: not a damn soul somebody's gonna eat. But the thing
Speaker 1: is this is that's the dam that's the thing about life.
Speaker 1: The damn about life is me and my partner right here.
Speaker 1: We did this Drink champship for five six months and
Speaker 1: we didn't get paid a dollar. In fact, I'm sure
Speaker 1: we owe fifty dollars. I'm sure that all the flights
Speaker 1: that were doing. But we believed in this so much
Speaker 1: and we believed in hip hop so much that we
Speaker 1: didn't care. So by the time we did get paid,
Speaker 1: it was like we definitely get paid. We didn't get paid.
Speaker 1: We put out but it didn't matter. You know what
Speaker 1: matter is he loves hip hop. This nigga is a
Speaker 1: hip hop nigga. This nigga Poppy got your ship on vinyl?
Speaker 1: For sure, I definitely have you got your ship on vinyl.
Speaker 1: But that's the DJA, that's the DJ, and I'm the
Speaker 1: artist and the dig is who better to represent our
Speaker 1: culture than the artists in the the artists and the DJ.
Speaker 1: So the thing I'm trying to tell you all this,
Speaker 1: if you never felt appreciated or you never felt like
Speaker 1: what you did for hip hop didn't matter, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you today that the motherfucker diad to listen. I
Speaker 1: want to tell you that it did. What you know,
Speaker 1: what you've done for hip hop, I'm doing it like
Speaker 1: you continue to do it. You have evolved into not
Speaker 1: only one of my favorite artists of all times, and
Speaker 1: you are like a voice, and you're bringing stuff like
Speaker 1: this to the table. And I have a responsibility. Mice.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, guys, I'm cutting you off because fans hate that.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you I actually recognize my responsibility
Speaker 1: now Like then I didn't recognize my responsibly. My sponsibility
Speaker 1: meant nothing to me because I only wanted to get
Speaker 1: me up. But Drake Champs supplies people jobs. We have
Speaker 1: a show coating numb run eating that we just finalize,
Speaker 1: do not did not blow it up, don't blow I
Speaker 1: need to be a part of that good nick we
Speaker 1: got you. But listen, So we just finalized. And then
Speaker 1: the thing is, I can't do none of this ship
Speaker 1: if I don't have hip hop on my back. Hip
Speaker 1: hop should be first. Hip hop should be a religion,
Speaker 1: and not only hip hop should be a religion. But
Speaker 1: we actually have to unionize hip hop. I know I
Speaker 1: said it earlier, but for real because because this thing
Speaker 1: about it. And I'm sorry that I keep using you
Speaker 1: as a example but me, but every time I think
Speaker 1: of in your case, I think I wish I was
Speaker 1: empowered to say, let me hire Bob Kalina, let me
Speaker 1: hire Scott Lehman, because this is I gotta get the
Speaker 1: funk off of this case. And the thing about us
Speaker 1: is we only care about ourselves. We have to actually
Speaker 1: sit back, get that check, Get that I was an check.
Speaker 1: You just get back a hundred dollars. It could be probable.
Speaker 1: So now when ChIL, something happens with Chi and Chile
Speaker 1: sitting there and they're saying, He's saying, Yo, no, I
Speaker 1: ain't do that. Ship. You gotta have representation. You got
Speaker 1: heavy thing and and and the thing is you gave
Speaker 1: too much the hip hop for you not to be
Speaker 1: I know you, I know you humble, I know who
Speaker 1: you are. I know and you're treating nigger. I know it.
Speaker 1: But you know what hip hop owes you? No hip
Speaker 1: hop owes us. Some it owes all of us because
Speaker 1: we dedicated our whole life to a long time like
Speaker 1: this is way and yo yo, another coat. I want
Speaker 1: to you know, just not just congratulate brou but you know,
Speaker 1: just to see the grinds starting to pay off and
Speaker 1: just and it's just a positive lane. Beautiful. It's dope.
Speaker 1: And when you when you're getting money and it's on
Speaker 1: some positive ship, like that's the best. Like what you said,
Speaker 1: when you're helping niggas, you know, you're helping motherfucker's kids eat,
Speaker 1: that's dope, nigga, that's official. That's a that's some ship
Speaker 1: you brag about. That's when you're back what I got.
Speaker 1: I had my son in first classes. When I got
Speaker 1: it was two men's families because of me, nigga. That's dope.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that's what we gotta do.
Speaker 1: So what we gotta do in hip hop is one
Speaker 1: continue to pag each other. Like I told you my
Speaker 1: meeting with Leo Coms, he sat down with me and
Speaker 1: he me and Otar beating at the Polo Lounge. I
Speaker 1: lived out Drake Larry's he gotta relax, really really really
Speaker 1: but they all said to me, and he said, why
Speaker 1: does this work? And I said what? Right? At least?
Speaker 1: He said what does this work? And I said, I
Speaker 1: don't know. He said, you know why this works because
Speaker 1: hip hop has never been celebrated. And at that very moment,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what he was talking about. And then
Speaker 1: I thought about it and I was like, damn, because
Speaker 1: I don't interview people I don't respect. I only interview
Speaker 1: people I respect. That's why that's why you see a
Speaker 1: lot of the old school rappers doing shows now. They
Speaker 1: started for two years. Nigga he out there easy rof,
Speaker 1: I should be easy rock. A lot of people getting money,
Speaker 1: black Sheet, they a lot of We interviewed carest one
Speaker 1: that Nigga ain't been in America for two months and
Speaker 1: he's not show. He was. He definitely not cheat and
Speaker 1: he definitely picked up after back bout it. I told
Speaker 1: him relaxed at that bod moment, it was I know
Speaker 1: I'm not a man because I had I had to
Speaker 1: get my man. He was me talking. That's a nick.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's going over. I didn't some
Speaker 1: bullshit I was I was. I said, no, I said, listen,
Speaker 1: we can't do that. Chris is one of my which Chris,
Speaker 1: you can't say that, you can't, can't, can't just you
Speaker 1: got you can't tell you what it was on he said.
Speaker 1: In his defense, what happened was take away from his legacy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what happened was this because it happened on training
Speaker 1: the champ. So let me let me, let me let
Speaker 1: me funnily clarify. What happened was. I asked Carre, I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: what do you feel about African Bambata? And he goes,
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk about controversy, right. He said,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna take it away from what he gave
Speaker 1: the hip hop and when he gave it to me.
Speaker 1: But in his defense, the nig was coming off of
Speaker 1: a boat, so he didn't know what African Baba was
Speaker 1: accused him. It was you know what, I'm gonna be honest,
Speaker 1: I don't get nothing of this, but I'm not asking that.
Speaker 1: When he said that, I was like, oh shit, and
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be like I didn't want to
Speaker 1: stop and be like yo, he didn't know. But what
Speaker 1: happened was big up the star started buck big you up.
Speaker 1: But he took that one part and he destroyed him
Speaker 1: like he just because he and the stars defense. He
Speaker 1: was actually right too, which he didn't say that, but
Speaker 1: he didn't have the confense. He didn't have the AC
Speaker 1: and me, I don't want to twitter old day. I
Speaker 1: don't instagram all day, so I understand. But when Chris
Speaker 1: said that, I knew, I knew. I knew. That's something
Speaker 1: that I knew. He didn't know going on now he
Speaker 1: didn't know. I don't feel you can't take away from
Speaker 1: his music. Whatever about you know how you can talk,
Speaker 1: We can't legacy. You can't take away from his music.
Speaker 1: You're liking someone, you look at something listening. I don't
Speaker 1: want to take the trophy. If they find out a
Speaker 1: baseball players using steroids, they take old accolades now, so
Speaker 1: the same sheet applies and hip hop to the But
Speaker 1: he cheated the game, then you cheated the game too,
Speaker 1: because you boys, I don't know. I fear what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about his music. If you liked one of his
Speaker 1: songs cheating and didn't know, who know, no way, Because
Speaker 1: like I told you before we started this, if I
Speaker 1: can't separate the artists from the music, if you're not
Speaker 1: who you say you are, in the music. And I'm
Speaker 1: saying this if you don't know who the artist is,
Speaker 1: if you just listening, but you know now that you
Speaker 1: was raping that fucking boys when he's nothing, I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear any I wish I could just rewind
Speaker 1: and never heard the ship I heard from you. We neither.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is when they played party people, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm gonna tell and turn that ship off right
Speaker 1: now that that but that's part of their history and
Speaker 1: that's the same way music bring back talent. I agree,
Speaker 1: but you can hear it. And I'm going to d
Speaker 1: J Bubis he will turn that ship over the boys.
Speaker 1: I'm doing the hole everything out of here. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I mean we but listen, I'm not gon standing up
Speaker 1: for him. I can't thank you. That's the boy. Listen.
Speaker 1: Just the door not gonna go bad. Don't worry. I
Speaker 1: got to get Yeah, you know how you get up here.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about. Here's the right.
Speaker 1: I love respect everything African man bother brought into the industry. Right,
Speaker 1: but at the same token, I can't co sign anything
Speaker 1: as his allegations. You named Poppy from the Bronx and
Speaker 1: I know this nigga. I don't know where I knew
Speaker 1: him from, but I know this nigger he ain't lying.
Speaker 1: And that nigga sitting there saying, yo, he forty so
Speaker 1: can I can? I can? I. What I'm saying is
Speaker 1: on me, you gonna be a rapist when I hear.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if I found that out tomorrow,
Speaker 1: ain't nothing gonna change when I hear. Lot of my life.
Speaker 1: That's my ship. You can't say funk that nigga. He's
Speaker 1: a bit that that ship. The stuff so and and
Speaker 1: that's what I felt like cars One was trying to express,
Speaker 1: but he expressed it in the wrong way because he
Speaker 1: was trying to say, you know, I don't get what
Speaker 1: y'all telling me about African mant bottom my nigga. The
Speaker 1: problem was carerested and know what African by boy was
Speaker 1: actually accused of. Correct you know all the facts. He
Speaker 1: didn't know the fact. So he said this is what
Speaker 1: he said. This is fucked up. And this is the
Speaker 1: reason why that's some fun up because you know, we
Speaker 1: grew up around that ship like my man and be like, yes,
Speaker 1: a lot of them and n jail and you don't
Speaker 1: know what what triggered them like another bron ripple life
Speaker 1: wh I think his man. So that's what means it's five.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I know I never addressed it
Speaker 1: because the Caress said that was the same day the
Speaker 1: facts came out of So when Caras said, now you
Speaker 1: gotta realize, now put it together. You gotta realize. I say, Caunsel,
Speaker 1: you heard about African mat bottle and he goes consy.
Speaker 1: I don't give a about no controversy. It can never
Speaker 1: take away from when he did the hip hop find
Speaker 1: you Caress don't know agate. So like it's just like
Speaker 1: right now we we we filmed this. I don't know
Speaker 1: when it's gonna come out right, but by the time
Speaker 1: we put it out, people think this is right now.
Speaker 1: He is right now yesterday and it wasn't you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying something. So I gotta I gotta represent
Speaker 1: for Caras one because by the time you put it out,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you the allegations out another he was on
Speaker 1: he was on boat. He went on everybody talking ship.
Speaker 1: He's on the boat. My nigga send a letter and
Speaker 1: so glad you Yeah, no, because I was hurt, like
Speaker 1: I know did not. He did not co sign it,
Speaker 1: and he did not he did not. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No, I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: honest with I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. He did not co sign it,
Speaker 1: but he did say what he said, and that's like you.
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, what you tell me mice, my nick,
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk with what you tell me Mice,
Speaker 1: And that's and I'm gonna just think of that cheat,
Speaker 1: my nick. I don't give a funk with you say.
Speaker 1: But we didn't know that nigga fake pop boys when
Speaker 1: it comes out of everything about it. I was doing
Speaker 1: a protest, like testing for like thirty days straight about
Speaker 1: the league because we got a big up Mike so
Speaker 1: on the raptivis. Yeah. I love that. You know, don't no,
Speaker 1: I menna take something. I'm sorry I come cut you off.
Speaker 1: People hate that, right, But my son, the courage that
Speaker 1: you have in certain situations. I always watch you and
Speaker 1: I wish I had the same courage you have. I
Speaker 1: don't have the courage you have. You'd be marching for real,
Speaker 1: like you really for real. He went to the woman's march.
Speaker 1: He went to the man march. You'll be watching. You've
Speaker 1: been launching. Let's make some much for match. She's got that,
Speaker 1: I got REGs, we got but listen. So I was
Speaker 1: doing a protest. They killed sixty six year old woman,
Speaker 1: shot up two tons in the abdomen. They said she
Speaker 1: had a bad mentally ill women. They walked in the house,
Speaker 1: four of them, and they couldn't do nothing else. But
Speaker 1: she was that bad. I'm bad, shot up for two
Speaker 1: tons of having a bad since she was a threat
Speaker 1: today life. This is the bronx. This is in the bronx.
Speaker 1: Okay was doing I did a four of the day
Speaker 1: protests where I was outside the precinct every day, forty
Speaker 1: days straight, rain, sleep snow by myself to your kids
Speaker 1: and my kids, whatever it was. Because this is her passion.
Speaker 1: I was about it. And one of those days, the
Speaker 1: guy the accused up of Bada was out there with
Speaker 1: me and he pulled me to the side. And this
Speaker 1: was d He was a diesel dude, and he was
Speaker 1: just like, yo, I want to talk to you, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know what you told me. I didn't know
Speaker 1: who he was, and he was just like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I'm the guy that on the total about what Manbada
Speaker 1: did to me. Man, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: and I want, I want to live and as us
Speaker 1: being hip hop because this is all it's our father
Speaker 1: like all this our father might be fucked up, but
Speaker 1: this is kind of like our father so kind and
Speaker 1: so when he's telling me this and he looked at
Speaker 1: me in my eyes this this wasn't though it didn't
Speaker 1: see him, He's like, yo, man, he said, it took
Speaker 1: me years to be able to say this to something
Speaker 1: because it's hurts he said, But I respect you and
Speaker 1: I think that you stand on the principles that I
Speaker 1: lived by. And I just want to look at you
Speaker 1: in your face and say this ain't no lie what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know, I want you to I want
Speaker 1: you to look at me and I want to I
Speaker 1: just wanted to come on here and tell you that.
Speaker 1: And that should kind of hurt me, Like damn, you
Speaker 1: can tell because because because it hurts them, I'm saying exactly.
Speaker 1: You can see that he was in jail, he stuff,
Speaker 1: I was locked up. He looked like he was fit,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, Like why would a
Speaker 1: man want to come and sear somebody raped him? Like
Speaker 1: what the fun would he want to say that? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it was just like it
Speaker 1: was really it was like damn. I'm like, damn, but
Speaker 1: love it, like I'm sorry for you said no, I
Speaker 1: just he said you. It's very few people I respect
Speaker 1: and I told my story because I needed to do
Speaker 1: that for me. But I actually respect you and I
Speaker 1: respect what you're doing and I'm telling you that. Okay.
Speaker 1: He's like I wanted and I just want you to
Speaker 1: understand that why I said what I said is that
Speaker 1: I needed to get rid of that for me because
Speaker 1: I was living with that ship for years and I
Speaker 1: just wanted you know that I ain't lying on him.
Speaker 1: I ain't mak up new stories like heart me that
Speaker 1: I haven't even had that skin brother. You know. He
Speaker 1: was like Brown's okay, I know I don't seen him
Speaker 1: all I think he's gonna be doing when he was
Speaker 1: telling me. So I was like, Damn, I didn't even
Speaker 1: know what to say to him, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like there was like damn, like so many people
Speaker 1: can't you say to him, but I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear a faming for the lady. And you come with that,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, that's a whole another fighting watching
Speaker 1: what she was out there watching with me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that this was like, damn man, It's
Speaker 1: just like I didn't even know I was at a loss.
Speaker 1: And I'm usually he never had a loss for worlds
Speaker 1: that found would have been at the loss of world
Speaker 1: and I was at a loss man. So so when
Speaker 1: Chris said that thinking of my old a ship is
Speaker 1: just like, come on, oh, so then I just want
Speaker 1: to clear that out, like you to clear because I'm
Speaker 1: glad you said because I was like, yo, I know
Speaker 1: even when I heard it back, I was like, damn
Speaker 1: this she seems this thing up. But the thing about
Speaker 1: it was we didn't even have the older details. So
Speaker 1: when I when I asked him, I said, yo, yo,
Speaker 1: when you think about African band BAA, and he was
Speaker 1: just like fuck yo. But people don't understand part of
Speaker 1: being real, it's sometimes you got to you gotta be wrong,
Speaker 1: separate the two, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: might have to tell your man he ruined, or sometimes
Speaker 1: you might have to cross that street if you really
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And that's what happened because
Speaker 1: that's life, you know, folks, and the roads come because
Speaker 1: at the time we interviewed care that's one. It was
Speaker 1: just a rooma so none of us knew the facts
Speaker 1: right and wrong. And the fl I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: the whole time I up Africa about this thing is
Speaker 1: really he was a fit. He kept looking at what
Speaker 1: disappointed for me because in my organization that I do,
Speaker 1: and and the activist one of my friends, like real
Speaker 1: close friends, it's part of the the you know, we
Speaker 1: love Zuda Nation exactly and it would hurt and change
Speaker 1: now to the names like you just that what it's done.
Speaker 1: It that's one person, Like that's it. That's it. Like
Speaker 1: why you follow the message and not the messages. That's
Speaker 1: why you motherfucking right cheat. But that's why if you
Speaker 1: see something in hip hop and something hip hop is
Speaker 1: not wrong, you can't blame the whole hip hop generation.
Speaker 1: You can't do that. You can't you know, some tell
Speaker 1: you count you please come up. So that's where we
Speaker 1: got to be here to come because when we as
Speaker 1: the hip hop nation and we don't say something's wrong
Speaker 1: with it, right, can niken? They can say that it's
Speaker 1: the whole hip hop nation somebody that means silence means
Speaker 1: accepted as bad as them when they when they don't
Speaker 1: after Shyles's music. So if you're not so you're saying me,
Speaker 1: if I see something that's going on and I don't
Speaker 1: say nothing, that means I coach coast damn. And that's
Speaker 1: why we dropped. And that's what. But you know what
Speaker 1: that people always ask, like, what's it like in jail?
Speaker 1: And yo, how come people come out better? And this
Speaker 1: and that, and words really can't explain it. But it's
Speaker 1: that it's so many situations that you faced to to
Speaker 1: cos on from your silence because you want to go home,
Speaker 1: because you want to get on that trailer, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because you ain't trying to be in
Speaker 1: the box, beat up your property and down state you
Speaker 1: and upstate you know what I'm saying. And that's the
Speaker 1: ship that when you're getting that settling, got to look
Speaker 1: in the mirror when you know they pull that nigga
Speaker 1: out that line for nothing. They're getting ready to do
Speaker 1: them dirty, and they're like keeping moving and you know
Speaker 1: we've got that trailer Friday, and your your bitch ain't
Speaker 1: trying to hear that. You know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: you keep it pushing. But you feel like a sucker.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's the ship that breaking nigga. Damn,
Speaker 1: that's the ship that making nigga better. And that's but
Speaker 1: that's the energy that you gotta use this hell all right,
Speaker 1: I did that at this situation, but now I'm free.
Speaker 1: I can't do that ever again, ever again. Like fun,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put my outs myself in a position
Speaker 1: to be in a position again. But I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: put myself in a position to where I gotta swel
Speaker 1: like that. I don't want to. I don't never want
Speaker 1: to look at my kids and say that I ain't
Speaker 1: do everything I could to make them better people or
Speaker 1: make the world better for them. I don't never want
Speaker 1: to add that conversation if I got to send jail
Speaker 1: for some ship that I that I lost my life,
Speaker 1: or if I gotta lose my life for something that
Speaker 1: I knew that. You know, none of us want to
Speaker 1: Dr Keen didn't want to die, you know, Malcolm X
Speaker 1: didn't want to die, but they died doing the work
Speaker 1: that they know they was put here to do. So
Speaker 1: people like, yo, you can't say this, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you can't say my spirit tells me
Speaker 1: that's what I'm supposed to say, and I'm moving in that.
Speaker 1: That's the ho I'm gonna move every everything about me.
Speaker 1: My wife this morning was like, why you gotta because
Speaker 1: that's who I am. You married me because that's who
Speaker 1: I am. Now if you change your mind, that's when
Speaker 1: you But I'm never gonna stop being who I am.
Speaker 1: You gotta figure this out. I'm not gonna stop. So
Speaker 1: you have got to figure out who you are and
Speaker 1: not And that is the balance and the challenge that
Speaker 1: you gotta be with me and who you are, Like
Speaker 1: you know who you are? Level spell backles this level.
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Speaker 1: with Rapper and R and d Jes. Then be honest, brother,
Speaker 1: we really appreciate you in hip hop. Yo, you was
Speaker 1: down with the native teller. I was the first nigga christive.
Speaker 1: You just interviewed be nuts and then what's that with
Speaker 1: Juju Man? I mean, let's always to Jujum I stepping
Speaker 1: a lot of COVID. He noticed snipper coat. I felt
Speaker 1: like he had the where he lived, like it was
Speaker 1: just yes, before you shoot you like, yeah, he was
Speaker 1: snipped him out. I'm lying. I've never I've never never
Speaker 1: seen anything that I ever said heard you. It's a lie.
Speaker 1: But you know, for podcast purposes, we gotta poem. I
Speaker 1: hate that I was your first Christian. Yes, yes, Foy,
Speaker 1: you originated by later records. Oh, you didn't even make
Speaker 1: body management records, whackings person snigger you before death? Was
Speaker 1: that relativity? And then I ain't gonna lie outside. He
Speaker 1: was talking and you called him by Chris. You know
Speaker 1: that was you called baby Chris. That's the baby Chris.
Speaker 1: They could call him baby Chris, Chris, baby Chris. What's
Speaker 1: that Barbarbara that people you got Barbara's You gotta relax
Speaker 1: come over there. But Violet, so describe us. Chris Lighty
Speaker 1: in the eighties, I mean Chris in the eighties. You
Speaker 1: gotta remember I was young I'm like eleven, twelve thirteen
Speaker 1: when I met him. So he was running around with
Speaker 1: the Jungle Brothers, running around with Caress he says, the Niggers.
Speaker 1: You know, I come home from school here, I'm doing
Speaker 1: your work watching rap City, so the you know, and
Speaker 1: then I'm a Brooks nigga like caress One, like like
Speaker 1: he was everything to me, everything Rust the Jungle Brothers
Speaker 1: and like when I'm Chris, just you have to teach
Speaker 1: you with the movie the most only day I listen.
Speaker 1: I listened to the Bridges over the other day. I
Speaker 1: wanted to shoot myself and big want to do it.
Speaker 1: I was, so I was like, because that's Caress Man.
Speaker 1: I grew up to them and Chris brought me around them.
Speaker 1: Why did you meet Chris through latif the average thinking
Speaker 1: just saying, like like by holes in the broad because
Speaker 1: Allison and Kicker her dances lived in co Op and
Speaker 1: it was like a summer Like yeah, so I'm from
Speaker 1: you know, I know co Op City because you're the
Speaker 1: only other hood that got terracest and we got so
Speaker 1: I always was a car city was my niggers. She
Speaker 1: was living with her dances. That's something everybody was coming
Speaker 1: like her dances was bad, you know they I didn't
Speaker 1: know what then I was young, but they was a
Speaker 1: little bit you know, you know, but not every like
Speaker 1: special lad ep m D the jung with everybody. Everybody
Speaker 1: was coming through to you didn't want you gotta relaxed.
Speaker 1: Only you did a PMD with all of them. Used
Speaker 1: to be up there, so thinks I'm eleven twelve. All
Speaker 1: of these niggas coming through and they had good hair,
Speaker 1: older brothers. There was a high school took at us.
Speaker 1: So it was cheating you coming upstairs, were cooking right
Speaker 1: going to living room. We're smoking that type ship. So
Speaker 1: I used to just be around and want to touch
Speaker 1: money love, but I had to crush your body back
Speaker 1: the love still look it too, right baby. So it
Speaker 1: was just yo. That's how I got with Chris because
Speaker 1: they will be there him and shot him. I was
Speaker 1: real coo, big favor. At one time. I probably was
Speaker 1: running flex right now, I need to get with shot
Speaker 1: on netflex right shot live. Yeah, you got life preserver.
Speaker 1: You know, we gotta to your least story. We got
Speaker 1: to New York. We gotta do it these streets. You
Speaker 1: got it. But um and from that me and Christ
Speaker 1: just developed a relationship, just running around like they was girls.
Speaker 1: A lot of times people like, you're coming with me?
Speaker 1: When he people to I'm going over video, I'll be
Speaker 1: like all right, And then didn't show with the Jungle
Speaker 1: Brothers at the Apollo, just mad history, you can't quit.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was crazy. I'm laing. I saw
Speaker 1: that young because I'm not as old as I feel
Speaker 1: like I should be. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I feel like most of them niggas is close to
Speaker 1: the fifty. Yeah, and I'm forty, so this year i'll
Speaker 1: be forty one. Are you one year older than me?
Speaker 1: I'm eleven days younger than Mice. Yeah, I'm seven mites.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you right, I'm seven. Feel anybody listen, let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. So, how did you meet Black
Speaker 1: Sheet Dress and Black Sheet? How did you do them
Speaker 1: through Chris at the time. I think when I signed,
Speaker 1: Chris was managing them. I think he had helped him
Speaker 1: get the deal in PolyGram so PolyGram that we ain't
Speaker 1: even run around them. Look at the Little Mercury Universe.
Speaker 1: I think on everything you've been you know, the money
Speaker 1: for a long time. Long time we've been old. So
Speaker 1: so so so what's the question again, how did you
Speaker 1: be dressed? Oh? Yeah, so just being in the student
Speaker 1: Actually we used to be at Calliope. I was recorded.
Speaker 1: I had just started recording. While it was recording, they
Speaker 1: was finishing up their album, and Chris basically had told
Speaker 1: Dress like, you know, I was a kid, I was
Speaker 1: a living twelve like with told Dress the publishing Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like no. Chris told Dredd you know, but
Speaker 1: basically was like, yo, you know, y'all gotta help with
Speaker 1: the project. You know, Chris was the executive producer. More
Speaker 1: this was don't call on the shots. And then me
Speaker 1: and Dredg just took to each other because everybody was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, y'all look like brothers, youth like. I
Speaker 1: think it's a good much when I'm not as mom.
Speaker 1: She was like, damn, y'all look alike. I mean we
Speaker 1: like family now, you know. But um, and then we
Speaker 1: just started hanging out, like Dredge just took me under
Speaker 1: the wing. You Chieri, I'm gonna be honest with you
Speaker 1: in case you didn't never knew how much hip hop
Speaker 1: appreciate you, how much hip hop old you, how much
Speaker 1: hip hop wants to big you off. Whomi ain't component
Speaker 1: like yo on some real ship like my man, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to get you out to have with it in DC,
Speaker 1: we got you like yo, y'all wanna y'all got one
Speaker 1: of my favorite rap rules that got one of the
Speaker 1: best rap out especially by group like and I already
Speaker 1: thank you that I love My was like, let's listen
Speaker 1: they said. They said, they said cheers on the run
Speaker 1: everywhere I was gone, I was like, chee you here.
Speaker 1: He had drains you know what? Ana was want to
Speaker 1: drags one night you got a Jamaica had. I was
Speaker 1: in sing sing industry used to write me letting us
Speaker 1: like yo. I was just at the show man, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna this thing here on the run. And did
Speaker 1: I earn the interview? Y'all did, And I'm like cheap
Speaker 1: he was onna run like fifteen months. But they said
Speaker 1: to make a bag, I'd be like your bags? Do
Speaker 1: you think I should go ahead? Yeah? Man for bet ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's big funny brags my back right and Yo, but
Speaker 1: cheer lee my song? Uh, Mice, Me and Mice we've
Speaker 1: been speaking a lot, like we've been speaking, and I
Speaker 1: wanted Mice to know that Not only did I want
Speaker 1: to do the interview, but I wanted to do I
Speaker 1: wanted a special moment. You hit me at the Blue
Speaker 1: and when you hit me, I was like, damn, I
Speaker 1: just want to put my two I look up to y'all,
Speaker 1: even though y'all could probably pick me up, and that
Speaker 1: we all look up to each other. Make me like
Speaker 1: so fox with y'all. So I said, I'm a father, dude,
Speaker 1: this together. So then you hit me and you said
Speaker 1: he was gonna be in Miami. But I thought about it.
Speaker 1: I said, nah, I want to hang with him in Miami.
Speaker 1: I don't want to come with you and you be
Speaker 1: business and all this dumb ship. I'm about to do
Speaker 1: this ship in New York. Let's get it knocked out.
Speaker 1: But I'm just tell y'all, Bronx can be proud of
Speaker 1: y'all right now, because y'all, when I look at Bronx
Speaker 1: the Pitacle, I think of Fat Joke. Nothing to YouTube brothers.
Speaker 1: I could never take it away from Fat Jokers. That's
Speaker 1: my brother, and I love him even he's been around
Speaker 1: since I've been around a long time. I love it.
Speaker 1: And to yeah, I didn't like the second this record.
Speaker 1: The second one. I don't even think they even let
Speaker 1: it get too fun. You take that over YouTube right now,
Speaker 1: it's the second what's the second second one? I was
Speaker 1: in she did that, but the second one and then
Speaker 1: now the album is tough. They got a nice album, Joe,
Speaker 1: the album is hard. So again, I just want to
Speaker 1: big your brothers up. I want your brothers to know that.
Speaker 1: And hip hop sometimes we don't do this. We don't
Speaker 1: do what I'm doing right now. We don't say you
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Brenda would have never threw her baby away
Speaker 1: if somebody would have told Brenda, you appreciate it. So
Speaker 1: this is what I this is what I started this for.
Speaker 1: I just want to tell people your stories is one
Speaker 1: of the real stories in hip hop. Both of you
Speaker 1: brothers stories is one of the most real stories in
Speaker 1: hip hop. But when I looked at that lad t
Speaker 1: Me interview, I watched you and I looked at your
Speaker 1: mannerism and I looked at it. I said, that is
Speaker 1: an error that should be represented because you didn't pick
Speaker 1: it up. You didn't glorify it. He just said, this
Speaker 1: is what I did and I'm not proud of it,
Speaker 1: and that right there should be the pinnacle of how
Speaker 1: we we we we teach our youth what you did.
Speaker 1: And I know probably you know, I love Troy, but
Speaker 1: Troy probably could look at this and say, yeah, nor,
Speaker 1: why did you let that? No, that's not what we did.
Speaker 1: We are just letting people speak their truths. Your version
Speaker 1: of the truth was so crazy. Every real nigger in
Speaker 1: the world sat back and said, that's how you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do it. Me, I don't have the courage to
Speaker 1: do that. I don't have the courage to sometimes call
Speaker 1: somebody on their bullshit. But you did. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying his ship is bullshit. I'm not. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not listening him as it was a misrepresentation to me,
Speaker 1: you know, because because because whenever, whenever you get on
Speaker 1: anywhere and you and you and you start to pick
Speaker 1: up something that should be bigged up, that should be
Speaker 1: shut down immediately, because we gotta we have responsibilities as adults.
Speaker 1: And I don't even if you don't want to be
Speaker 1: a role model, guess what, you're fucking role model. That's
Speaker 1: somebody that screen, there's somebody that does something. So again,
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, I'm not shipping on slim and
Speaker 1: no way shape for my fashion. But when you stepped
Speaker 1: up for STO, you had did the Instagram John, then
Speaker 1: you actually went to the Breathash Club. And when we
Speaker 1: were to the Breathash Club, you explain yourself so accurately.
Speaker 1: You spain yourself so um ticket that I sat back
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn mice, and I was gonna
Speaker 1: call you, but I said, you know what, let me
Speaker 1: let everybody else call and I'm gonna call him a
Speaker 1: later because I know he knows I appreciate what he's doing.
Speaker 1: And so for us to be right here, right now,
Speaker 1: there's nothing more than I want to do. Like I
Speaker 1: got this platform, So what you know, what's more important
Speaker 1: about me having this platform is me giving love like
Speaker 1: you properly I got. I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 1: want to interview these new guys. These new guys, they
Speaker 1: got one record and they want to. You know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta you gotta you gotta earn your
Speaker 1: ships to come overhead guys, the new guys. Y'all, y'all,
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I can't see you. Really the
Speaker 1: word hate you you're listening, say one let's say these
Speaker 1: are one you no no, you're not. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I don't gotta you gotta care. I don't even gotta
Speaker 1: do with care. But I understand that it's not the
Speaker 1: I wish I say, real hip hop or original power.
Speaker 1: That's not said that never said say because they're saying
Speaker 1: no people niggas never said that that. I feel like
Speaker 1: that this is just saving the vis certain stan get
Speaker 1: I don't get like who kind of kids? I was
Speaker 1: not not you you care? Don't you got a kid?
Speaker 1: Or I'm directly as you can't gotta care? One you
Speaker 1: gotta care? And too too. The reason why I can't
Speaker 1: interview now niggers, it's because I've never been on tour
Speaker 1: with them. I never. I never have a relationship. I never,
Speaker 1: I never. I've never seen don't on the run and
Speaker 1: then come to my shows Like that's different that this
Speaker 1: thing was on the run and my show I you cheat.
Speaker 1: I almost want to say, you gotta last. But he
Speaker 1: came and they came with eat money bags. That's history.
Speaker 1: That's freendship. Am I saying the new niggas can't build
Speaker 1: their history? Of course they can't, but not here, not now,
Speaker 1: not do slide. But the more you come up I'm
Speaker 1: gonna watch it because the one thing for showing two
Speaker 1: things for certain I gotta expect creativity, creativity, I don't
Speaker 1: give a funk even if you don't like it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna respect creativity. You're expressing yourself because it's it's express people.
Speaker 1: But people gotta learn it. So the thing is with
Speaker 1: me is I actually had a manager that Nigga that
Speaker 1: he took wrong when he said Chris, I actually had
Speaker 1: a manager that actually cared about my creativity, and he
Speaker 1: actually cared about my financial that doesn't exist in almore.
Speaker 1: These things don't give a funk about you, And the
Speaker 1: thing is gonna come. They're gonna say, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: you got a good record, you're bad at boogie, and
Speaker 1: that's it. So what I'm trying to say is I
Speaker 1: want to pick up to people who survived the error
Speaker 1: that I survived, to survive the fucking ship, and it
Speaker 1: ain't about financial because you can survive and you can
Speaker 1: still be down. I want to respect the people that
Speaker 1: went through what I went through and more and they
Speaker 1: stood there like a man because it's so terrible. This
Speaker 1: business is horrible. It's so horrible. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: I'm a laugh, I'm a smile for you as soon
Speaker 1: as the camera go off. This ship is not that way.
Speaker 1: So when I smiled when the camera's off, that's can
Speaker 1: you win? But you haven't seen car Yeah you've seen
Speaker 1: on me back then he see the camera on and
Speaker 1: be like, you know what that is? That's pain. It's
Speaker 1: pain because he's been fronting so long. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: front like in a bad way. The chain work again.
Speaker 1: You can't wait your Jerry and Queens no more city
Speaker 1: boyd d. They try to. They try to snatch him.
Speaker 1: They whip the maup, they whipped the map, but they
Speaker 1: try to snatch your chain. Come to Queens anytime, Jerry
Speaker 1: Hard you gotta yesterday it was right for you. Let's
Speaker 1: makes some nervy city bore. Well listen, lesten out and shot.
Speaker 1: He got his ship, He got his ship. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: we will kill him that whoever. I walked over that
Speaker 1: for my bronx like a Mike both Mike bo. He
Speaker 1: never put me in a headlock. He put in the
Speaker 1: headline yesterday. Everybody, you're the only one that can't swing.
Speaker 1: But listen, hip hop deserves to continue to get, continue
Speaker 1: to celebrate hip hop. We deserve our people, City boy
Speaker 1: d Young Really, motherfucking who else is schmall? We deserve
Speaker 1: to sit back and just continue to support each other
Speaker 1: because if we don't, there will be nobody else that
Speaker 1: support us. So when you gotta legend like cheer, I
Speaker 1: leave with the mom clear T shirt on. That's very
Speaker 1: special t shirt, very special at least eighty nine, at
Speaker 1: least I know. I'm so. But we gotta continue. We
Speaker 1: gotta continue to do that. And my song that's how
Speaker 1: we on it. We love it. You gotta remix. I
Speaker 1: got im one point. Okay, I'm one point, got on
Speaker 1: media game together a little bit. Me and Mike's got
Speaker 1: a record. Let's talk about this record. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the record. Let's talk about the body. We just finished.
Speaker 1: Everybody they gotta talking sensuous. Man, you guys, I don't
Speaker 1: know that work, said pieces Ma situous. Yeah. Women is
Speaker 1: that female? Oh body? You can't be having rain female?
Speaker 1: The brosin you're killing somebody. Honest, I'm a fair so
Speaker 1: we're not my son yall body these things catching kids, funny,
Speaker 1: Trump too much, keeping it to please change the people.
Speaker 1: But y'all to camble right, it's terrible video. Come, you
Speaker 1: got to see the video though. Video we don't already
Speaker 1: shot already. I don't know what the film is filmed
Speaker 1: it you can't shot film. Can He's triggered. You can't
Speaker 1: trigger trigger. You can't even say, yeah, I'm gonna fry.
Speaker 1: I let your nigga's nigga. I'm so all. I went
Speaker 1: too far, I know, and you took a straight shots.
Speaker 1: That's all I drink. I'm gonna tell you this though.
Speaker 1: If I put you in the there hug, you're not
Speaker 1: getting out yo, te Mike. So I can't thank you
Speaker 1: brother enough. Listen, I want to continue to support. I
Speaker 1: don't want to even say real niggas. I want to
Speaker 1: just continue to say I want to support substance offense.
Speaker 1: You know I'm dilecticle authenticity. You got to relax. But
Speaker 1: I want to continue to support niggas like your brothers,
Speaker 1: because you know why behind the scenes, when the person
Speaker 1: say a person is a real nigga, that's one thing.
Speaker 1: But then what happens when it's behind the scenes from
Speaker 1: the nigga could actually sit there and get your five
Speaker 1: and laugh. That to me is a real nigga like
Speaker 1: all the realist niggers I've ever met was never loud.
Speaker 1: The loud niggas the pussy nigga, and I'm loud, so
Speaker 1: maybe I might be pussy too. But the loud nigger,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is the nigga that assists there and
Speaker 1: has fun and he smiles. That's the nigga I'm always
Speaker 1: worried about because I know that he wanted, he got
Speaker 1: something to rest. But when my gods just loud and
Speaker 1: this is what we got to continue to support in
Speaker 1: hip hop. And I really can't thank you enough, cheek,
Speaker 1: thank you. When you're talking Aboutami hanging out in Miami,
Speaker 1: I did this, Yeau come to Miami. It's totally different.
Speaker 1: I'll be like that. I'll be I'm in Miami. But
Speaker 1: my song. I can't think you brothers enough because you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna continue to do what I gotta do.
Speaker 1: That's how we wanted the remixes out Body Body so
Speaker 1: videos that I'm gonna click the link in my bio
Speaker 1: Chili b X my Son in General, shut Instagram, b
Speaker 1: X mice on in y general. Look at that's how
Speaker 1: the dream and you have if the Bronx, it's not
Speaker 1: if you felt like the Bronx wasn't alive. The Bronx
Speaker 1: is alive tonight today b X, it's Rain Supreme letting
Speaker 1: the bridges over record. I kind of still don't be.
Speaker 1: I don't really like that. My brother's show biz d
Speaker 1: I d I t to tell if you're telling me
Speaker 1: studio is tough, you listening parties, all of that, that's
Speaker 1: my nephew. I'm sorry. I gotta be harder in your nephew.
Speaker 1: You gotta be harder on your family too. Thank y'all
Speaker 1: once again. And we're gonna going up balcony and smoke
Speaker 1: is cheap and wanting to smoke this back away forever,
Speaker 1: can't you? You were like, I ain't gonna lie, I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna drink it over. You're getting wet right now,
Speaker 1: and you drinking straight. I ain't gonna lie. How I
Speaker 1: was weary of sach and I'm gonna drink chap. I'm
Speaker 1: an alcoholic and I'm not even drinking straight. But I looked,
Speaker 1: I said, damn, but I wanted you to get drunk,
Speaker 1: because that's that's my whole thing. But at the same
Speaker 1: talking as a friend, I was worried about you. Let's
Speaker 1: do it I'm not drink. A picture and a love,
Speaker 1: a love