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Speaker 1: to football. My first conversation this week is with Bengals

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Tyler Boyd, coming off a season that saw

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Speaker 1: him set new career highs for catches with ninety and

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Speaker 1: I'm still working out, you know, run on the field.

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Speaker 1: were plenty of rumors before the end of last season

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Speaker 1: you're not in Cincinnati right now, Tyler, but you are

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Speaker 1: on social media. You see how Bengals fans are reacting

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Speaker 1: We don't know exactly what's going to happen in terms

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Speaker 1: he and I brought in the program that I have now.

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't called MANNA then, but MANNA stands for

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Speaker 1: mentoring against negative actions. And the program is pretty simple.

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Speaker 1: I called it my twelve step program. My twelfth Step

433
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Speaker 1: program just talks about, you know, new beginnings when they

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Speaker 1: get out their image, forgiveness, the justice part of being

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Speaker 1: in jail. Education. Education is not just one, two three,

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Speaker 1: but education is educating your kids to make better decisions

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00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: or making you you make better decisions, you know. And

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Speaker 1: then they talk about working, you know, get in the job,

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Speaker 1: having a bank account, you know, drugs. I call it

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Speaker 1: the drug my drug program is called Smoking Alcohol and Drugs,

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00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: the SAD Team SAD. You know, a lot of those

442
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Speaker 1: guys go to jail due to the fact that they're high,

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Speaker 1: they're drinking drunk, or drugs just infected their lives, even

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Speaker 1: their family lives. And then I talk about their community,

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Speaker 1: the community, support the community that they live in. How

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Speaker 1: could they be a better person in that community by

447
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Speaker 1: making the best decision or helping someone. When I grew

448
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Speaker 1: up in Los Angeles, we didn't have to know. Obviously

449
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Speaker 1: La doesn't snow, but we had people who had a

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Speaker 1: lot of leaves and trash in their yard and we

451
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Speaker 1: used to help them clean it up. Well, I know

452
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Speaker 1: in Ohio because my kids used to do it when

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Speaker 1: it's snow. They would go out there and shovel the

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Speaker 1: sidewalk or the driveway for the neighbor, and neighbor give

455
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Speaker 1: them five bucks. So there's a lot of things you

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Speaker 1: can do in your community to make it better. Instead

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Speaker 1: of you going into your community and infecting it with

458
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Speaker 1: drugs and crime, why don't you go into your community

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Speaker 1: and stop some of the things that you see. You

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Speaker 1: may not be able to stop. A kid who stands

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Speaker 1: on the corner wants to sell drugs that you might

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Speaker 1: be able to give him some influence by saying I

463
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Speaker 1: used to be you, So why don't you get off

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Speaker 1: the street change your life, Because I think it's all

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Speaker 1: about communication, and it's to me, it's it's common sense.

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Speaker 1: Common sense says don't do these things. And we've lost

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Speaker 1: common sense in this country. And I think if people

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Speaker 1: would understand, like it was back in my day, when

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Speaker 1: you got in trouble, everybody's dad was your dad and

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Speaker 1: you've got your bubb whoop, you can't do that today.

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Speaker 1: And I just think it's I think it's important, and

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Speaker 1: I love what I do, man, I said, I go

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Speaker 1: down there twice a week, and I'm now working in

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Speaker 1: Butler County's jail with Sheriff Jones, So I'm four days

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Speaker 1: a week. I'm in the jail system, just teaching everyday life,

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Speaker 1: everyday skills of making the right choice. David, As I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: you were named the sixth greatest retired Bengals player of

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Speaker 1: all time when the team celebrated it's fiftieth season a

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Speaker 1: few years ago. You were a three time Pro bowler.

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Speaker 1: You played in the Super Bowl, a key part of

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Speaker 1: that nineteen eighty eight team. So your football accomplishments speak

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Speaker 1: for themselves. Where does going back and earning your college

483
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Speaker 1: degree rank to you among these great accomplishments? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I think this is number one. I do. I think

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Speaker 1: it's number one because I never thought that I would

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Speaker 1: do it. I never thought that I would did it,

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Speaker 1: and I think that was probably one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: reasons why I left as a great shirt junior. It's

489
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Speaker 1: because it got harder. You know, at twenty years old,

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Speaker 1: it was hard for me to to really sit down

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Speaker 1: there and understand some of the things that they were

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Speaker 1: asking me to do and the ability that I had

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Speaker 1: to play football. I didn't think that I could. I

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Speaker 1: thought I would, I could have played in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: But it was like, you know, I'm twenty years old

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Speaker 1: and I'm been going to this National Football League and

497
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Speaker 1: fight against guys who've been there eight nine years, ten years,

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Speaker 1: twelve years, And I I said, you know what, this

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Speaker 1: is my if I'm gonna really really get out of

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, you know, I my first part of getting

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Speaker 1: out of LA was leaving high school and going to college.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't want to go back to LA after

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Speaker 1: being in college and not have achieved something, so I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go out there and playing.

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Speaker 1: When I got there, I never even thought about graduating.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that may happen to a lot

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Speaker 1: of young kids who graduate from college and go to

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Speaker 1: the pros and make a lot of money. Did you

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Speaker 1: start thinking that, you know, you don't need your education.

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00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: You know, you're making a hundred million dollars. Who who

511
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Speaker 1: could tell you what to do when you got that

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Speaker 1: kind of money. So I wasn't making that kind of

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Speaker 1: money then and probably never will. But I thought it

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00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: was important at once I finished and I heard about

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Speaker 1: it that maybe I need to get this degree because

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00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: I've been offered many jobs then that require what degree

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Speaker 1: you have, And when I told him I didn't have one,

518
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: and based off an assumption, everybody thinks that because you

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00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: go to college and you played college football that you

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Speaker 1: probably graduated. And no, and they turned me down because

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Speaker 1: I didn't have that degree. So that was another incentive

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Speaker 1: to do that. So now when somebody asked my degree,

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Speaker 1: I could tell them what I got. It's tremendous. There's

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Speaker 1: no shot clock required on getting one's degree. So the

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Speaker 1: fact that you went back thirty four years after last

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Speaker 1: playing at Arizona State and going to college there. It's

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Speaker 1: a remarkable achievement and I'm really happy for you. I

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00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: can hear the pride in your voice again. Your daughter's

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Speaker 1: Facebook post was extremely touching, So congratulations from the bottom

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Speaker 1: of my heart. I do want to ask you a

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Speaker 1: few football questions before I let you go. First, your

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Speaker 1: reaction to the Bengals spending more than one hundred and

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00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars in free agency this year. What did

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00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: you think when you saw those names rolling in shop? Probably,

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00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: like everybody else, probably didn't expect to see them spend

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00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: that money, but maybe the table's attorney, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it makes it very exciting for this upcoming

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00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: season for the Cincinnati fans. The base here in Cincinnati

539
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: has been thirsty for something good to happen, and by

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00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: doing that, the good has started. And once again everybody

541
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: looks good on paper. These guys that they brought in

542
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: are players that have made some plays for those teams,

543
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: but they still got to perform. David one of the

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00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: big editions with safety Von Bell, known as one of

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Speaker 1: the best run stopping safeties in the NFL, he was

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Speaker 1: part of a national championship team at Ohio State went

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00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: to the playoffs every year with the Saints. Did you

548
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Speaker 1: think a guy that fit that description was something needed

549
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: on this defense? Oh yeah, you need a I would

550
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: say making an outcast. Somebody that does doesn't look like

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00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: the norm. He's coming from a wh an organization is

552
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: coming from a a perspective of you know, he's a player,

553
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: he's a game changer. He makes plays, and I think

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00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: it's important that you know when he comes in here,

555
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 1: he's going to be affected, affecting everybody. His motors is

556
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: on ten and some of our other guys motor can

557
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: only get up to five. Maybe he's going to bring

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00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: that level of defense up a little bit more that

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00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be very impacted. That he brings in

560
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: a winning attitude and a winning tradition that the Bengals

561
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: defense and not a bad defense, but I think that

562
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: he add a little flavor to the defense that gives

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Speaker 1: them what they need to do so they can get

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Speaker 1: off to fill on third downs and keep people from

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Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns anytime they want to. These are obviously strange

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Speaker 1: and difficult times for everybody. If you were still playing

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00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: right now, what would you be doing to try to

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00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: be ready for a football see when it resumes. Oh

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00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 1: my gosh, damn, I couldn't even tell you. Um, you know,

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00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: hopefully I have a gym or something in my in

571
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: my house, um a yard and you know, a big backyard,

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00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: and or I live over at King's Isnd right now,

573
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: so I'd walk out my condo, run up and down

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00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: the grass here and trying to keep myself right. I

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00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: couldn't even tell you. You know, when I hear all

576
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: these sports talking about basketball maybe coming back, in baseball

577
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: coming back, you know, those those guys have been sitting

578
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: around doing nothing, and how much is it going to

579
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: take for those guys to get themselves ready to play

580
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: their sport? Um? This this is tough. Man. We are

581
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: in a time where we could have guys come out

582
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: and they're not in shape. Um, the guys can get

583
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: hurt because they haven't done as much as they really

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00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: would like to. But you know, these guys are professionals,

585
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: so they they they're finding a way to get themselves done.

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00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: I just couldn't tell you the thought process that to

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00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: go through of Hey man, here we are in May

588
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: and football it's coming up in August. You know, in

589
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: the last two months we've been locked in. He won't

590
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: let us get out, So I don't know, Man's it's

591
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: almost like, you know, you need a five week program

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00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: that gets you ready for eighteen twenty games. Be tough, David.

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Speaker 1: Just to wrap things up, this is a great story

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00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: on behalf of Bengals. Fans are really proud of you

595
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: and congratulations on a remarkable accomplishment going back more than

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00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: three decades after playing at Arizona State and earning your degree. Brother,

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00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: I thank you very much, fan, And like I said,

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00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: I worked hard, and I think it's a you know,

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00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: a real thrill to have my daughter and my son

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Speaker 1: and my wife be a part of it. And you

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00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: know one of those things that you know, it's a

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00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: the degree asked David's name on it, but you know

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00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: it's a family thing because they put in just as

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00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: much work as I put in. I know my wife

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00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: did because, like I said, she she was at one

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00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: that was sleep at eleven thirty twelve o'clock and I

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00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: had a question. I woke her up and asked her

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Speaker 1: to come help me in and I could see her

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Speaker 1: in facelight. I cannot believe you asked me didn't you

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00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: wait till tomorrow? Could you wait till I get up?

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Speaker 1: But they were right there with me, man, And I'm

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Speaker 1: glad it's done. Thank you, my friend. That's going to

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