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Speaker 1: Katie, why do you look so surprised all the time.

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Speaker 1: It's one more thing, I'm strong Andy, One more thing

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Speaker 1: before we get to that. Joe wasn't on the radio

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Speaker 1: show yesterday because he's a druid and he had all

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Speaker 1: kinds of religious ceremonies he had to participate in for

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Speaker 1: the total eclipse, and but he's back today having sacrificed

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Speaker 1: a number of virgins into a volcano. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: why you still did that.

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Speaker 2: I give thanks to Mother Earth, Father Moon, Uncle Sun,

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Speaker 1: But since you weren't on the show, you didn't hear

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Speaker 1: us talking about this yesterday. I just wanted to know

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Speaker 1: if you knew anything about this. The Wall Street Journal article.

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Speaker 1: Time to start typing like a grown up.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of aware of this, but not really

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Speaker 1: aware of it. That for like the under thirty crowd,

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Speaker 1: using capital letters is really a sign that you're like old.

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Speaker 1: So you take the time to uncapitalize the first word

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Speaker 1: but you go back and uncapitalize it because you're so droll,

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Speaker 1: You're so disaffected and uninterested in everything in life, all

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Speaker 1: of your texts have no capital letters.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to be controlled by big.

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Speaker 1: Letter, right, and the Wall Street Journal pointing out that

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Speaker 1: people acknowledge that capitalizing letters is a rite of passage.

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Speaker 1: There are holdouts who don't want to do it, but

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Speaker 1: it's basically saying, if you want to get a job

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Speaker 1: And people really resist it because that's like what mom

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Speaker 2: If you were to at this moment chuckle and say

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Speaker 2: I just made all that up, I'd say, oh, okay, oh,

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Speaker 2: because this is so strange.

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Speaker 1: And by my niece, my oldest niece's twenty five, I

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Speaker 1: noticed when she texts, she never has capital letters in

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Speaker 1: if you're if the if you come across that, that's

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Speaker 1: what's going on there. It's a symbol. It's just a

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Speaker 1: way to divide yourself from grown ups, which has always

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Speaker 2: Let's see, now, no periods. I've gotten used to uh huh.

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Speaker 2: I'm going back with my youngest kids text string and

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Speaker 2: definitely got all the proper capitals, but never a period

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Speaker 2: at the end of the last sentence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, punctuation is out too.

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Speaker 2: I'm just surprised there's an exclamation point.

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Speaker 1: I'm just surprised because it seems like so much work

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Speaker 1: it starts for you on purpose.

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Speaker 3: But oh yes, it's to go back to delete and

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Speaker 3: then retype.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, a lot of work just to make sure

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Speaker 1: you don't look old. But anyway, so there's that and Katie.

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Speaker 1: The why do you look so surprised? Katie is a

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Speaker 1: joke about her new eyebrow tattoos, which she mentioned during

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Speaker 1: the show. So I don't know anything about eyebrow tattoos.

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Speaker 1: You're going to get them today. Is this a common thing?

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Speaker 1: Why do you do it? What does it cost? I

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Speaker 4: It is relatively common. There's a few different ways you

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Speaker 4: can have it done. You can have them tattooed. There's

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Speaker 4: something called micro blading, which is similar to tattooing.

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Speaker 3: And so I'm doing the tattooing today.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned that one of the reasons you want

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Speaker 1: to do it is so you don't have to tattoo

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Speaker 1: yourself every day before you come to work. Those those

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Speaker 1: eyebrows I'm looking at right now aren't real.

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Speaker 4: They they're I mean, I have eyebrows, but I need

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Speaker 4: to fill them in regularly, and they they don't line

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Speaker 4: up properly and it drives me nuts. So yeah, I

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Speaker 4: draw them on every day at three o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 1: They don't line up properly.

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Speaker 3: No, they don't. One like starts farther back than the

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Speaker 3: other and it just dies. I'm so sick of it.

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Speaker 2: You're a monster. I can hardly look at you. Uh

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Speaker 2: huh wow.

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Speaker 3: Bridge troll.

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Speaker 1: But eyebrowser eyebrows are hair, So isn't it gonna look

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Speaker 4: No, So they they do the tattooing and microblading in

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Speaker 4: hair strokes, so it's it's a very fine needle and

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Speaker 4: they go in and they actually make it look like hair.

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Speaker 3: So it'll look somewhat natural.

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Speaker 4: But the healing process is going to be hilarious.

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Speaker 2: So are you going to be wearing like big Yoko

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Speaker 3: I was debating a hat?

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Speaker 4: But I'm not too sure how close I can get

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Speaker 1: Look at your open wounds. Yeah, yeah, losing open wounds

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Speaker 1: above your eyes.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited about this.

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Speaker 4: I know it's it's probably sounds insane to you guys,

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Speaker 4: but the process of drawing them on and messing them

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Speaker 4: just at thirty five, I don't know how to draw

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Speaker 3: So this is going to be a huge timesaver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, where do you get that? Will they move

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Speaker 1: with your face like s you can look surprised, or.

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Speaker 2: Well it's on her skin your nine.

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Speaker 4: No, they're like floating, so they stay while the rest

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Speaker 4: of my face is animated.

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Speaker 2: It's like a filter on Google mets. Ah See. I've

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Speaker 2: never been a party girl, so all of this is

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Speaker 2: to me like, you know, like a tribe in the

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Speaker 3: Well, not problems you guys would have. No, No, you

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Speaker 3: guys both have great eyebrows.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm I am someone.

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Speaker 2: Who's started a mediocre at best, started.

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Speaker 1: Dyeing his goateee now and then, so I understand the

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Speaker 1: need to uh do something to your face. What is

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Speaker 1: this going to cost you?

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Speaker 3: It's five hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: WHOA.

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Speaker 1: But it's permanent.

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Speaker 4: It's permanent, which I mean, if you think about it,

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Speaker 4: if you get a tattoo, like a really good one,

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Speaker 4: you're getting up in that range especially, you know, and

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Speaker 4: this is the permanent makeup. So I mean, people get

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Speaker 4: their their eye liner done, which I can't do. People

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Speaker 4: get their lipliner. My mom did her eyeliner and her

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I know some people that have done those, and

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Speaker 1: I don't dig it. So maybe there's probably, like everything else,

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Speaker 1: but I've known some people that did the permanent eye

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Speaker 2: Uh, it depends. You can always add more, you can't

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Speaker 2: go full. I'm Courtney Love at a nightclub to start,

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Speaker 2: I think, right, But.

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Speaker 4: I am taking a risk because I mean I'm praying

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Speaker 4: to all that is holy that it doesn't get done,

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Speaker 4: and I'd hate it.

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Speaker 1: The eyebrow makes more sense to me than the eyes

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Speaker 1: or the lips.

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Speaker 2: Actually, oh yeah, unless some sort of shaven headed look

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Speaker 2: becomes super hot in the future. I mean women shave

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Speaker 1: You don't notice what eyebrows do for your look until

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Speaker 1: it's it makes you look weird.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and people are shaving them off right now as

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Speaker 4: like a trend. I yeah, there's a girl I follow

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Speaker 1: Oh so she wants me in a different place.

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Speaker 3: This is real life, guys.

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Speaker 1: Do we know why human beings have eyebrows?

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Speaker 2: I think it's just part of the whole keeping stuff

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Speaker 2: I think it may be partly just to catch stuff

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Speaker 2: because where you have hair, anything that touches it, even

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Speaker 1: Of animals kind of have eyebrows. You can feel them,

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Speaker 4: The Google is telling me that eyebrows help protect our

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Speaker 1: Couple advisors, you gotta have a pretty heavy brow for

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 1: Cavemany quick question, Katie, So if you do not like these,

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Speaker 1: Do you have to choose a color?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So, and the woman who does this is fantastic.

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Speaker 4: excited about this. But she's gonna go in look at

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Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't normally ask this, but is that your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like a dirtyish blonde.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, So a lot of women have to spend

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Speaker 1: your hair is naturally, that's handy. Yeah, okay, then you

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Speaker 2: And if you hate the look, you can just start

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Speaker 1: So now we are in the uncomfortable position since we

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Speaker 3: No you don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't want that. If it doesn't work, I need

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Speaker 4: to know, so, oh.

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Speaker 2: Please not gonna be me. Besides, you know, a couple

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Speaker 2: of my kids have a handful of tattoos, and so

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Speaker 2: I know it takes a while before it looks good.

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Speaker 2: There's the whole healing process. Although with that microfid needle

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Speaker 2: you're talking about, it might be different. So I'm expecting

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Speaker 2: you to look like a boxer who had a rough night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They said that there can be bruising and that it

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Speaker 4: takes about ten days for it to look how it's

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Speaker 4: going to look. So this is going to be a

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Speaker 2: Is this gonna is gonna have to have a card

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Speaker 2: to hand out? No, there's no domestic violence.

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Speaker 1: Right, no kidding? Have they told you?

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Speaker 3: Is this gonna hurt more than a regular tattoo. I've

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Speaker 4: Apparently she puts this lydakane cream over them and then

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Speaker 4: lets it sit for a while and does it mind.

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Speaker 4: My mom had it done and said that she didn't

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Speaker 4: sweet mother trying to comfort me or if it actually

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Speaker 4: is painless.

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Speaker 1: Are you a piercing's person?

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Speaker 3: M Yeah, I have tattoos and piercings.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is not unfamiliar to you this sort

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking of getting a hairline tattooed like in roughly

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Speaker 2: the color of my hair as it is now, kind

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Speaker 2: of salt and pepper, but like the Eddie Munster, the

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Speaker 2: low like almost chimp like hairline.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a hard no on that, Joe,

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Speaker 3: don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Could I get my bald head like tattooed to make

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Speaker 1: it look like there's hair?

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Speaker 3: That is a thing that people are doing. Yes, Oh,

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Speaker 3: I have seen that.

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Speaker 4: There is actually a business that just opened up in

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Speaker 4: my old hometown that specializes in that procedure where guys

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Speaker 4: are going in and having little black or whatever dots

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Speaker 4: done all over their head to make it look like

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Speaker 4: just a little bit of hair growth like a shadow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I might do that.

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Speaker 3: That is doable.

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Speaker 1: I could see doing that.

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Speaker 3: Do that dire goatee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just knowing you, you'll like, read the first paragraph

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Speaker 2: of an article about it, then try to do it yourself.

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Speaker 2: Problem and the money, I'll lend you the money. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what color hair?

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Speaker 1: Jack? Would you?

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Speaker 2: Would you be a redhead?

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Speaker 1: Or would you?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I don't remember what color my hair was.

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Speaker 4: You can get the pattern. You can just get a

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Speaker 4: stripe down the middle so it looks like a little mohawk.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, well, we look forward to seeing how this

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Speaker 1: turns out tomorrow. Maybe we'll post pictures at the website.

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Speaker 3: And that's why.

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Speaker 1: Let people comment. That's always a good idea.

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Speaker 3: You could take a pole. Do these look like shit? Well,

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Speaker 3: good luck, Katie. I guess that's it.