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Speaker 1: send that through respectfully to you know. You know what

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: The new question is is will Big Meat sou fifty

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Speaker 1: pertains to the counsel concert. Now this is a loaded

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Speaker 1: topic because we gotta deal with Tammy in this topic,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily from her cooperating with the government and if

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Speaker 1: I think that's a legitimate question. How can this lady

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Speaker 1: Because a question I have is what do you do

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Speaker 1: What do you do when the moths cooperating? Now half

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Speaker 2: Yo yo yo. Welcome to us Up There podcast.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about a lot today. I ain't even

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Speaker 1: They've inserted Rick Ross, of course he inserted itself. We

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Speaker 1: And while this disrespectful and you don't want to speak

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Speaker 1: So again, a couple different things, pod trade talks. I

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Speaker 1: I've always said that Meach is probably looking at all

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Speaker 1: He was maximizing minimal effort for maximum impact. He gave

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Speaker 2: Nigga made me put on a COS Show T shirt.

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Speaker 2: Why he put me in a CAS Show T shirt?

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Speaker 1: What do we really think that the value of this

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Speaker 1: They say a picture worth a thousand words, but I'll

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Speaker 1: Now now they say a picture worth a thousand words,

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Speaker 1: send that through respectfully to you know. You know what

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The new question is is will Big Meat sou fifty

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Speaker 1: I think that's a legitimate question. How can this lady

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Speaker 2: But at this point.

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Speaker 1: I now got to deal with somebody that's cooperating and

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure about the defamation. Some people are saying

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Speaker 2: See if it was anybody but fifty cent big meet,

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Speaker 2: you be able to.

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Speaker 1: Tell them that it's easier to film a dynasty and

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Speaker 2: There's any loopholes in the contract.

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Speaker 1: But who am I kid? And this culture don't fight

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Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna rally behind none of these people in getting

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Speaker 2: He could just crush the show.

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Speaker 1: And then I need you guys to understand, if I

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Speaker 1: that Little meets fifty. I think this is a very

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Speaker 1: interesting time in Little Meets's life, right, His dad has

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Speaker 1: this street legend, this person that got that he plays

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Speaker 1: And so I can imagine him well before he got

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Speaker 1: fifty You know in our younger years, especially meets younger

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Speaker 1: Fifty cent being someone that I look at it and say, yo,

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Speaker 2: That's dead. That's over with again.

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Speaker 1: As we dealing with a man that's been shot, probably

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Speaker 2: Things prior to getting shot.

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Speaker 1: A man time money boom, they hit me. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: ain't never looking over nothing no more. Everything gets serious.

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Speaker 1: Now my outlook changes. I've been hitting nine times close

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Speaker 1: Leon de Pion's little boy, larryge y'all can walk around

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You ain't having no You don't have a radar or

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Speaker 1: it the same. Fifty Cent being someone that I say,

438
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: come from a place where Yo, this shit is everything

439
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: or nothing. So bumming in the little Meat, somebody that

440
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: he probably treated like a son, He embraced him, sent

441
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: him to acting school. The big Meat story was valuable

442
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 1: without fifty cent, but fifty cent being in that position

443
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,239
Speaker 1: at that time, with that network, with that budget on

444
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: Fire after Power. There's no there was not a better

445
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: scenario for that story to be in. And so I

446
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: guess I'm speaking to how Little Meats probably felt around fifty.

447
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: He probably felt like fifty was a real gangster, a

448
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: real leader, father figure, a businessman, an entrepreneur, a rich

449
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: black man. You dig got a certain riverns for fifty

450
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: his father come home and get with ross and litl

451
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: meach is looking for a sequel and end up with

452
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 1: a standof fifty cent. Unfollows Little mechs he had an

453
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: own slough to high activity and bush of Instagram posts,

454
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: sneak dish is slanderers in rows at Big Meach. And

455
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: so now Little Meach hit fifty up because just the

456
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: same fifty cent he's been rocking with for a long time.

457
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: He may don't understand the all the war. He don't

458
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: come from a background where he gotta beat guards up,

459
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: antenna is up?

460
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 2: You did he get laid back?

461
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: Ain't he done?

462
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: Got rich at a young age. He waiting on the

463
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: next season of the Rolls. He locked in with Big

464
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: Phil fifth, got a budget on five different networks. He

465
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: probably see his future right, He's seeing it a certain

466
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: way now, he says, it takes to fifty. The text read,

467
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: they just told me you won't follow me on Instagram,

468
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: and now you're managing skialer. Baby, shut out skiller with

469
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: Rocket when I thought him and when I brought him

470
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: around you first, when you didn't even have a clue

471
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: who he was. Now you mad at me when I

472
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: will take the shirt off my back for you. I

473
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: can't believe this, man. You act this as if I'm

474
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: an enemy. I only showed you love and lords in

475
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: human form. I go through my own shit, but I

476
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: never switched on you. Fuck cross. But he gave my

477
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: dad some bread so he can afford to pay his

478
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: bills until our next season starts. It's in and that

479
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: shit that's thrown me off, man, You know me in

480
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: real life. I ain't gonna lie a little bit of me.

481
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: If mich was came home sharp and I thought he

482
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: was a sharp nigga, you know it, don't it seem

483
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: like he making certain kind of moves. He ain't as

484
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: sharp as he probably need to be to be operating

485
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: at the level they trying to put him in, because

486
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: they trying to put him at a level where it's

487
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: it's high level thinkers through that. You got to know

488
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: how to you dig. You what I'm saying, You gotta

489
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: know how to weave in and out of traffic and

490
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: make the right decisions and pressure situations. And you gotta

491
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: be able to think your way to the next step.

492
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: And I'll thank your opponent. You gotta be able to

493
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: navigate in this water because if you don't, man, you'll

494
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: lose everything you up.

495
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: Here with high thinkers.

496
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 1: Man, everything is on the line up here, and it's

497
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: our mental gymnastics and mental jiu jitsu. It's all wit

498
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: against wit. It ain't brain, it ain't bronze against bronze.

499
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: His brains against brains. Right, A little part of me said,

500
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: I wonder what it's a play of me saying, hey,

501
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: let's try to get back in with him. Neverwere to,

502
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, telling me it ain't nothing. We're gonna try

503
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: to patch it up with and be cool, but we're

504
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: still gonna get away from him. Your daddy home. Now,

505
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna be all right. I'm gonna get it straight.

506
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: But let's keep that money rolling in, so send him

507
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: this kind of message. I was wondering if it's that

508
00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: kind of play. Nonetheless, it wouldn't have worked either way,

509
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: because fifty the kind of nigga where he understands, Yo,

510
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm going at your daddy, Nigga, no way I can

511
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: be cool with you.

512
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: Man.

513
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: What kind of low level thinking nigga? I think I

514
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: am why I'm going at your father and I'm gonna

515
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: be cool with you?

516
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: That seemed like a play.

517
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: If I'm fifty centing a nigga son, I'm going there

518
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: with meat son and it man. Even though we live

519
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: in a day and age now and this ain't even

520
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: about little meats, but on God, we live in a

521
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: day and age now where a family member go against

522
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: a family member for a nigg with an opportunity for.

523
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: Him, nigga blood or go against blood for.

524
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: Opportunity, lord to burn over opportunity, nigga go against nigga,

525
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: no lord to him for opportunity. That's why you got

526
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: people going to city at the radio, when you got

527
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: blog pages and people that's fighting for artists every day,

528
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: fighting for causes every day. That's why the president when

529
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 1: they come to the city, guess where they go. They

530
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: go see the grass roots mother Us. They also go

531
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: see CNN, but they make sure to stop over here

532
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: at the grass roots. Luckily for me, I'm in position

533
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: where I'm like a CNN, so I'm gonna be hoit

534
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: either way. We'll get to that in a minute. This

535
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: text message from Little Meach. If it wasn't a play,

536
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: it was just a young man in his emotions. Even

537
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: if Fifty wanted to be cool with Little Meach, it

538
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: couldn't happen. And Little Meatch don't understand that. I hate

539
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: that Fifty took that route with him because the little

540
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: nigga I love for him, you see what I'm saying,

541
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: But he trying to show his dad.

542
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 2: I'm crushing you.

543
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: You know, he trying to He trying to prove a

544
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: point to his father, and he using his son as

545
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: a pawn in this situation.

546
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: I hate he done that to.

547
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: Him, and the little nigga look up to him. You

548
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. But what I will say about

549
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: Little Meets is he don't really understand that it ain't

550
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: no in between like that, you know, and hopefully his

551
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: father may begin to understand that.

552
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: I know if it was me, it would have crushed me.

553
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: You know, if one of my kids, I feel like

554
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: you're going against me for these dudes. You know, and

555
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: and Meats can't following him as much as he would

556
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: like to, because again, he's been absent, And an absent

557
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: father can't raise his voice at a child that love

558
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: what he loved, the things that a child indulge in.

559
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: An absent father ain't got no being and raising his

560
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: voice about now the one that was there scratching and

561
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: clawing and told him to go left, and he went right.

562
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: He can sit there with his lip poked out and

563
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: he can pitch a bit. But you niggas that ain't

564
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: never done nothing, that ain't never led the way and

565
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: led the pack, You nigga better shut your mother mouth

566
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: when the kid go wondering off trying to figure out

567
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: where to eat at. I don't want to hear you

568
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: niggas rumble the word when that little boy wander off

569
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: and try to figure out how to come back with

570
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: some food. When you, nigga, he never led the way.

571
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: You been absent fathers, you been absent? Fuck you and

572
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: speaking the dude he want to lock in with a

573
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: niggas right respectfully, I can and I don't see a

574
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: world where big Meats can be mad about this. But

575
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: little Mets don't know how much faith to have in

576
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: his father. In twenty and twenty five, he don't know

577
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: what his father gonna do with his hustle. In twenty

578
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: twenty five, he don't know what his father can do

579
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: outside of write what he was arrested for.

580
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.

581
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: He don't know what what do it look like outside

582
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: of that, what we're doing outside of that. So that's

583
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: why he want to be locked in with fifty. Fifty

584
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: know what to do in twenty twenty five, fifty know

585
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: how to work around in these buildings and still remain

586
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: who he is, true to himself, like him or not.

587
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: So he's been able to coptivate a category in a

588
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: very niche market, in this space where people don't have

589
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: to cachet to be able to communicate in these boardrooms

590
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: in a way where they can get a check cut.

591
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: This can gets shit green lit.

592
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: That's about some of the most horrendous acts. He's in

593
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: a very unique position. And so of course, little Meat,

594
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: you want to be locked in with him. Why wouldn't

595
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: you want to be? But it would have broke my

596
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: heart as big meats to feel this. But he has

597
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: to understand that as you grow your child has confidence

598
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: in your driving skills because they've been in the car

599
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: with you a million times. They maybe have some confidence

600
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: and a little equity in your.

601
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: Jump shot because they've been to the gym with you. Right.

602
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: They may know that you have the ability to talk

603
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: a free meal at the restaurant when we head up here,

604
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: because they they've saw you in action. But if you've

605
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: been absent, how much faith do they really have? And

606
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: all they got.

607
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: His stories of what people said you was you was

608
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: a mean hustling.

609
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: You can really get some money and you may have

610
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: done something behind bars, and they got some equity in

611
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: knowing your story.

612
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: It's worth some money.

613
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: But I want big Meats to have some compassion for

614
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: little meat and a mistake like this, You see what

615
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Although I know it hurt, and I know

616
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: it come from a real interesting place because it'll hurt

617
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: my heart. But I want you to know you've been

618
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: gone long enough to separate the boy from his faith

619
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: in You see, a lot of daddies don't know just

620
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: because the little niggas, he'll know your face and he

621
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: know what you look like, and you know your birthday. Yeah,

622
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: but you've been absent, so long you done separated the

623
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: faith from the family.

624
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: The boy ain't got no faith in you.

625
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: You ain't know your name, but he ain't got no

626
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: faith in what you're gonna do, or what can you do,

627
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: or what you bring to the table.

628
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: The wise mamay stayed with you.

629
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: When a young boy it's young and he thinks his

630
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: father is a bad mother. That's one of the first

631
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: questions he come and asks you what happened while you

632
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: and my mama didn't work? Because man, I know, if

633
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: we was all together, boy, that'll be a And you

634
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: see them kind of marvel at the opportunity for it

635
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: to be that. But what I'm saying is there's a

636
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: twinkle in your kid's eye as they see you throughout

637
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: the years of them developing, conquer things, moving houses, getting

638
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: new calls, getting new jobs, maintaining this, scratching.

639
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: For that, clawing for this.

640
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: They believe in you, and they have faith in you

641
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: that they know that you will get it done like

642
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: you got it done before. And I think Meats needs

643
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: to have some compassion for little meat as he.

644
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Works through there.

645
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: Let me do a brief hitting on the big meat

646
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: allegations of you know red now all these people got

647
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: these assumptions and these angles that they're taking approaches as

648
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: they speak about this scenario.

649
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: I have not pulled the paperwork.

650
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: I do based on what I was looking at today,

651
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: I do see where there was a Frank hearing. There

652
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: was a Frank's hearing and it showed that Tammy Cohen

653
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: said that she was interested in getting Big Meach's time cut.

654
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: She then later came back to retract that statement on

655
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: the record after Meat said he didn't want to be

656
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: involved in whatever she got. Going on, the parallels that

657
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: people are drawing is how did a woman who is

658
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: in this scenario that is working for the government end

659
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 1: up with your life rights and understand saying that I'm

660
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: willing to cooperate if we could cut Meech's time. And

661
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: is a certain thing called third party cooperation. If you

662
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: have not seen my interview with Terrence Gangster Williams, we

663
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: spoke about third party cooperation.

664
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 2: He said, you can give information.

665
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: To anybody at any time, any law enforcement, and they'll

666
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: write a letter to get your time cut. I had

667
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: already been familiar with the third party cooperation and kind

668
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: of what it meant because me and Terry Gangster Williams

669
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: had spoke about it while the culture was searching for

670
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: a motive as to why Tammy Koran would be on

671
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: the stand or cooperating, because there is a motive when

672
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: these people cooperate. A lot of people were drawn to

673
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: the fact that she didn't need money, and some people

674
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: are saying that she became an informant to get meet

675
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: your lighter sentence. I have a question, what do y'all

676
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: expect big Mes to do when the snitch got his life? Right?

677
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: If he's anti snitch and he's in jail for life,

678
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: he got fifteen more years, and let's just give them

679
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt.

680
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: Again. I don't know which way you go.

681
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't co sign nothing because I don't care about nothing.

682
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: I'm a scholar. I don't even do the street shit.

683
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: I give an I and milligrams a game a week.

684
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: I don't really talk no street shit. I'm talking business

685
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: in million dollar deals, right, But I'm gonna give y'all

686
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: a thousand milligrams a game on this here? Where do

687
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: you staying? Let's say Big Meats didn't tell her to cooperate.

688
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: She done it on her own. She trying to work

689
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: some kind of mood, which this could be something that

690
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: she later comes out and say, who knows, what do

691
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: you do when you are notified the lady you gave

692
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: your life rights is now cooperating with the government. I

693
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: think when you rewind that, the question still remains why

694
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: does she have your life rights? And not be a

695
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: powerful attorney. But if you're in a scenario where this

696
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: woman who has read it, has your life rights, you

697
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: gotta find a way to work with her. You can't

698
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: walk off on your life rights. This is a good

699
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: place to put yourself in to have plausible deniability as well,

700
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: because you can always act like listen, no, I can't.

701
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: I can't not do business with her. She got my

702
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: life rights shit worth fifteen. I can'tnot fuck around with him.

703
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: I think the loud part of what Big Meach is

704
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: gonna go through it as it pertains to all of

705
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: this is over with. I think he's gonna be okay

706
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: if he just keep his head down and watch the

707
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: moves that he's making and not playing to the narrative

708
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: narrative and keep it going. But with fifty on in

709
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: his life rights, what else can he do? Let's explore

710
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: what Big Meach can do while fifty have his life rights.

711
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: Can he write something? Can he write another urban story

712
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: similar to his and promote and market it like the

713
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 1: real story? For example, call it the real story worried

714
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: by Big Meat, don't say nothing about BMF.

715
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: Can he do something like that? You get what I'm saying? Like,

716
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 2: I don't know.

717
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: Again, there's so many ways that lawyers are gonna figure

718
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: a way to work around some of this. If it's

719
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: worth enough money, they'll bucket and make him have to

720
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: spend some money to get it right, which I think

721
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: fifty is that petty he gonna spend the money. There's

722
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: another reason why I don't think anyone wants to be

723
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: super quick to endorse it and invest in it from

724
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: a corporate standpoint, as they know it's gonna bring some

725
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: heat from fifty. He's gonna start posting about you negative

726
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: shit online until somebody's sewing him. And a couple of

727
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: these Nick Doesne talked about seeing them. We'll get to

728
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: Joe Budden threatening to sue fifty cent here in a second.

729
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about this. Though Ralo has

730
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: continued to mention Big Meach and Young Scooter. I want

731
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: to deal with him. As he speaks to DJ Academics.

732
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: For those who do not know, Rollo is a rapper

733
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: from Atlanta. He got locked up for a long time.

734
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: There's been some allegations on him as well. He's walking around,

735
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: moving around trying to clear his name. There's been a

736
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: lot of people saying that he did some sort of trick.

737
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: He tried to run, but there's been some paperwork and

738
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: also transcript provides some details where Brian Still, the famous

739
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: lawyer from Young Thug's trial who represented Raleoh as well,

740
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: once said something to the tune of, if we can't

741
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: suppress this paperwork or this hearing, this would do a

742
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: great detriment to Raloh, his status and his rap friends

743
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: of the community are something to that effect, which led

744
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: people to believe, what's he in us speaking to.

745
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 2: The police about other rappers.

746
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: Because for Brian Still to know that or say that,

747
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: I guess it's fair to ask, like I, what other

748
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: rappers would be upset with what Raleah may have said.

749
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: And I think that's a fair question. Also, I won't

750
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: Roll Loder know this.

751
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you cool with Brian Steele, but I think Brian

752
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: Steel may be cool with certain people.

753
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: Enough to let them know.

754
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: Now, Hey, I ain't gonna say exactly what happened, but yeah,

755
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: stay away from bro or now he good.

756
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: Brian Steele can clear up White he ain't.

757
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 1: Somebody get Brian Steel to clear up. But we're gonna

758
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: keep Brian Stell a lot of this. That's my guy, man,

759
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, allegedly for Brian Steel, that's my guy. I

760
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: want to look at Rodlo speaking of DJ Academics about

761
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: his paperwork.

762
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 4: Pay attention price was her relevant twenty criminal investigation conduct

763
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: by the agency?

764
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 2: Boy? Mean, this is DA.

765
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: Specifically, the information given did not help the United States,

766
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: I think, I mean, that's the exaggerate line, right. Specifically,

767
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 4: the information given did not help the United States to

768
00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: identify nor locate the individuals mentioned in the illegal narcotics

769
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: trafficking described above. I mean, I'll continue to reading the rest,

770
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 4: but I mean I'll stop it there because we're gonna

771
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: get to and and I've seen and I think I

772
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: even defended you. I said, listen, I can understand being

773
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: in a box and feeling like you stood tall, and

774
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: then people saying you're the snitch. And when you came out,

775
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 4: I could tell you wanted everyone who put that out

776
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: there to not only be as loud with the apology,

777
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 4: but to have some accountability to that. Right, that line

778
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: is and by the way, you know we have the

779
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 4: official paperwork here, that line would tell me it basically

780
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 4: means you you did not help with the investigation of anybody,

781
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 4: and if anything, you just lied to these motherfuckers.

782
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: Right.

783
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

784
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: The facts in this information given for my personal observation

785
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 4: and my trending experience and the information obtained from Davis's

786
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 4: and by the way, this report, I would think, would

787
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 4: tell them that they can't give you no deal because

788
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: you're hinder in the process more than you're trying to

789
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: help them, right my training experience in the information of

790
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: ten from Davis, having read and considered through this federal

791
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 4: criminal investigation conducted by the FBI, it lacks credibility. Davis

792
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: said his plug a case drug supplier was dead, which

793
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 4: led them to drug trafficking marijuana. On two separate occasions,

794
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: sixteenth of October twenty seventeenth, then October twenty sixth to

795
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, a Federal Bureau of Investigation confidential human source

796
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 4: purchased heroin inside Pakistan from a known famgon. During the

797
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 4: sale of the heroines. The confidential source was told the

798
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 4: heroin came from Davis. So there was somebody telling on you, right.

799
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 5: It was a lot of people telling on me. I

800
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 5: got a documentation, I just ain't never put that out there.

801
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 4: So how do you feel when people then say you

802
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 4: told when you have the actual paperwork?

803
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 6: That's saying I.

804
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 5: Mean people put that paperwork, like my co defenders and stuff.

805
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 5: How put that documentation out you but nobody just refused

806
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 5: to read it, like you shouldn't even run in that

807
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 5: room plan on you should never made it juice for

808
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 5: him at all.

809
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 4: That's what I hear, Right, So I hear some people

810
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 4: who are saying, well, maybe we don't got the paperwork

811
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 4: on who he too because these days they'll be like, yeah,

812
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 4: we don't got the paperwork on who he told on.

813
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: We might not know who he told on. But the

814
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 4: mere fact that he even talk to them people, that's telling.

815
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 4: There's some people that go with that narrative.

816
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 5: I don't understand that I always lie to the police.

817
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: Let me speak about that a little bit, and also

818
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: always when I speak about these topics, I want to

819
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: be clear. I'm a body street talk, I'm a scholar.

820
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: I don't honor none of this shit. This is bullshit talk,

821
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: but I do want to speak to it because it's

822
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: happening simultaneously while I'm hustling in our culture and I

823
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: always want to put something on the ground for a

824
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: hunger hound. Now, Raloh, sitting next to academics, which has

825
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: limited understanding on any legal problem, says any understanding of

826
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: any of these things. He don't have a nobody he

827
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: can even get on the phone, like, I got guys

828
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: right now in the fazz that I can hear, Hey,

829
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: I got this, Now, tell me what's going on with

830
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: the paperwork?

831
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: It say it is?

832
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: It's say that, And I got Muslim brothers that love

833
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: and respect Raloh that will be truthful and honest with

834
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: Raloh in the event that that's what needed to take place,

835
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: considering that truth lives above feelings in all circumstances.

836
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: But I want to be clear.

837
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: I got enough knowledge about the legal process in our

838
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: judicial system to know that there's a couple of different

839
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: things that we can speak to right now. And I

840
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: don't want to speak to these in reference to Raloh

841
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: because I haven't seen the paperwork. I don't got time

842
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: to look into it. I'm hustling and it ain't really interested.

843
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: But I do want to be clear. There's a scenario

844
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: where you can give information and then the police turn

845
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: around and act like the information wasn't no good. For

846
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: an example, I a interviewed Terrence Gangster Williams and I

847
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: pressed the line on him a little bit about telling.

848
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: One thing I respect about Terrence Gangster Williams is that

849
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: he gonna stand on the fact that YO, I wanted

850
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: to get out here.

851
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: I ain't trying to act like I write. I did

852
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 2: what I did.

853
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: I was who I was before that, like you dealing

854
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: with the two faced man. I got two lives. I'm

855
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: on my third life. Now I live the life as

856
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: a gangster. I live a life as a rat. Now

857
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm living a life as a sevillian. Because the whole

858
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: time he was in there taling, he never fucked that out.

859
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: As I got.

860
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: Into the story, and now I listen back to our conversation.

861
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: He was giving information for years and he just got

862
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: out from a totally different law. All the information Terrence

863
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: Gangster Williams were giving the government along the time that

864
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: he was locked up, the government deemed a lot of

865
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: it not useful, or at least not enough to get

866
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: him out of jail. May be useful in the in

867
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: the right to close the case, may be useful as

868
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: it pertains to making a rent somewhere or you know,

869
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: getting closed in a file, but it wasn't enough to

870
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: get him out. He ended up getting out from the

871
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: first step act. So all they're telling all them years

872
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: and getting sneaked out out of the jail, and he

873
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: going in here telling them shit didn't amount to nothing.

874
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: Another trick that the police do. Let's say you're someone

875
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: that's inno scenario to be under investigation as a hustler,

876
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: as someone that may be moving meth that they call ice.

877
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 2: Nowadads, let's say that they.

878
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: Say when I meet him, I usually buy three ounces

879
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: of ice every Tuesday. Any event that you meet with

880
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: the police, and you only buy one ounce of ice

881
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: on a Friday, they can now say this ain't useful. Hey,

882
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 1: we using this against you. That didn't We didn't get

883
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: nothing from the whole time they done tapped his phone.

884
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: They know he got the ice, and they know he'll

885
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: move with it, so they make an arrest at a

886
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: different day, not from your information, primarily because.

887
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 2: It was off a little bit, but you led me

888
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: in the right direction.

889
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: I've saw this, homie, I've saw it right, say man,

890
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: I can probably get a four and a half from him,

891
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: A right, they give you the money for a four

892
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: and a half, or you try to go getting a

893
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: four and a half. It's a slow day. I ain't

894
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: got nothing but two in the quarter. You come back

895
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: with two in the quarter. Your story didn't aligne therefore

896
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: is not useful as it pertains to getting time cut

897
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: off your sentence. I'm sorry, but the fact that you

898
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: told us what jets they be use, and maybe you

899
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: did tell us the.

900
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: Area that the growers were in.

901
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: Maybe you bullshitted us on the names of the people doing,

902
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: but maybe we got the route from you.

903
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: See, that's what people know.

904
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: That's why a lot of these street niggas like hold

905
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: up though Raulo explain to us, what make.

906
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: Brian still keep it real under oath about this shit?

907
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: Then if it mean that much to you, because Nick Fianes,

908
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: he get to wondering, like hold on, even what academics

909
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: just read off. It didn't say he didn't give any information.

910
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: It said the information he gave was not useful. And

911
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: again they'll play a game with try to make him

912
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: give something stronger and nail him to the cross.

913
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: If he don't instill, go arrest him. They dealing with

914
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: it with big meat right now.

915
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: If you pay attention what their legend is. Tammy Cohen

916
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: got with Cuffey. Cuffey ended up getting arrested. But because

917
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: Tammy Korn was having an affair with the federal agent,

918
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: whatever her agreement was cars was nulling void.

919
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 3: They threw it out the window.

920
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: They still arrested Cuffy from the phone taps. So although

921
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: her and the federal agent who had an affair, both

922
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: of y'all xed out, we still got information from going

923
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: that route.

924
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 2: We tapped Cuffy, we go get Coffey.

925
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: This is how they move as a unit when we're

926
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: talking about the police and some of the tactics. So

927
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: let's be clear that people are not saying that your

928
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: name has to be in paperwork saying that you told

929
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: on such and such and we went and got foreign

930
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: had bricks out his house, and such and such told

931
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: us where to go get it from. No, your name

932
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: is in paperwork offering information. That's basically what Nigga's saying.

933
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: And you tried to run a place so you got

934
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: to keep trying to clear that up. But your name

935
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: in paperwork didn't ever mean that. They gonna keep it

936
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: real and tell us everything you said to him, Terrece

937
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: Gangster Williams, tell me right today, yo, bird Man and

938
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: them don't fuck with me cause I say I told

939
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: on some dead people.

940
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: But how they know?

941
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: I'm telling them I did such and such? But how

942
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: they know?

943
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: When the paperwork can't never tell a nigga exactly what's

944
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: going on or what they got.

945
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: Or what they've done.

946
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: Maybe an agent can, but why would they play the

947
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: game against themselves like that? These niggas coming out of

948
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: the fairs and tell you man. I interviewed Terrence Gangster

949
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: Williams that told for ten years and never got no time.

950
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: Cut was telling shit for ten years. All of a

951
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: sudden the first step act come and they put a

952
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: play together to get out and press the line and

953
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: press the issue. Man, I have been working with y'all,

954
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: Come on, man for whole time, he telling they keep

955
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: sending him back to the jail. Yeah nah, they ain't

956
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: really look how they were doing water, Yeah they really?

957
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah we can't Yeah nah, So we ain't gonna act

958
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: like that there's not a scenario. Well, you can give

959
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: information and the police are play it if it don't

960
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: line up to the t right again? Four ounces it

961
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: wasn't but two ounces nothing. That wasn't good enough. You

962
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: said four ounces. You said he would have four hundred

963
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 1: thousand in there. He only had a hundred. That ain't

964
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: uh theesus? I imagine they playing these kind of games.

965
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 2: They greeted. They won't all.

966
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: They trying to squeeze it all out of you. And

967
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: guess what, the police won't even tell on each other.

968
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: So if the police partner smack you in the face

969
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: and hit you with his baton, he ain't gonna tell

970
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: on his partner, but he a deal with you telling

971
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: on yours.

972
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 2: Pay attention to some more.

973
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 5: What old fatherfuck ticket? I'm trying to figure out, Like

974
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 5: I wasn't speeding. You can have to gud and say

975
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 5: you were going seventy.

976
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 6: Miles eighty five right here?

977
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: What's up?

978
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 5: Nah man?

979
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: That's it now?

980
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 5: I was you know what I'm saying, Like it's always

981
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 5: been there. Like I don't understand why people like even

982
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 5: I tell even when Jay was right there, I tell her,

983
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 5: please like read the whole thing, like don't just read

984
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 5: one page you telling me, okay, I went and here

985
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 5: on page that you said, I went in this motherfuck

986
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 5: and information was given right on June sixth of twenty eighteen,

987
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 5: which was seven years ago. Right now, read the risk now,

988
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 5: I just want to worry about it. We're trying to

989
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 5: read about page that.

990
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: Now.

991
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 5: I read the whole mother because we all know some

992
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,479
Speaker 5: things can start bad as well.

993
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 6: I read this last part too.

994
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 4: It says through my training experience, through my training experience

995
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: and education, I've become familiar with the manner in which

996
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: members of criminal enterprises communicate to use trickery schemes.

997
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 6: To downplay their roles in crimes.

998
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 4: Mister Davis refused to answer questions on or about April seventeenth,

999
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, after being found in the cargo bay of

1000
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 4: the airplane with the product marijuana on board. So once

1001
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 4: again they're basically saying that even when they caught you

1002
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: with it, it's right, it's surrounding you. You you refuse

1003
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 4: to give any information about it. I mean it gotta

1004
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 4: bother you that that it tastes this for motherfucker. And

1005
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 4: remember you allowed saying I'm gonna pull up on you.

1006
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 4: I want you y'all to do some reading. And it

1007
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 4: don't sound like a lot of people were down to

1008
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: do reading.

1009
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 5: No, mam. I would tell them, let's go to the courthouse, like,

1010
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 5: we can go out here and get my PSI, my

1011
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 5: transcripts from my sentence in transcripts. I was telling them,

1012
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 5: we can go get my I got some motion in

1013
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 5: here called it's called statement of reasons. It's show you

1014
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 5: whether you got a five K one or whatnot. And

1015
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 5: I was telling them like, let's go to the courthouse.

1016
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 3: We can go out here.

1017
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 5: And we can get the same documentation printed. Although all

1018
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 5: this documentation will see it in our discovery, of course,

1019
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 5: but I'm like, okay, yeah, let's go to this courthouse

1020
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 5: and see this. And I even told youay, like Jay,

1021
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 5: why the hell was just read page eight, Like, let's

1022
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 5: read all the pages.

1023
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 6: I've never seen somebody see.

1024
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: Here's where we can, here's where we can feel like

1025
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: we're trying to be decepted, because again, academics, you know,

1026
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Maybe he doesn't have the intellectual wherewithal

1027
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: to keep up with the conversation, right, but for someone's

1028
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: paperwork to have a five K one, it just means

1029
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: the prosecution has filed a formal request, formal being the

1030
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: operative word. That does not mean you didn't give information.

1031
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: That means they didn't do their part if there was

1032
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: an agreement. Sometimes you give information for nothing. Sometimes they

1033
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: give information in the heat of the moment. There's Nigga

1034
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: snitched in on crime scenes and things like that, right,

1035
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: and so the five K one again is a formal request.

1036
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: This usually happens before centizen. The rule thirty five is

1037
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: happens when you're locked up. That's when you go tell.

1038
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: That's what Terrence Gangster William were doing the Rule thirty five.

1039
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: He was going to tell why he was locked up, Like, hey,

1040
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: he goes some information and he explained that third party

1041
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: cooperate relationship. But for Ralaouh giving information and granting the

1042
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: five K one, there's a long there's a lot of

1043
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: room in between that. And again, I think the reason

1044
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: Jay was focused on that page when Brian still said,

1045
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: if we let this out in the community, it's because

1046
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: people that she know from that community, probably.

1047
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 2: High profile rap Nigga.

1048
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: Has probably been telling her man this sentence right here

1049
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: is what got me.

1050
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 2: Anything else. He's trying to run a play fun.

1051
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: But when Brian still come out and say, Yo, if

1052
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: the rapnigga find out what he said, this ain't gonna Basically,

1053
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: this is.

1054
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: What Brian's still saying.

1055
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: If the rappers find out in this community what Raloh

1056
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: has said to y'all, it wouldn't do well for his

1057
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: career or his safety.

1058
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: This is what Brian still said in the paperwork.

1059
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: So I want to give some grace to Jay with

1060
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: her trying to figure that part out, because if you

1061
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: ask me, some real nigga probably came to her about

1062
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: that part and they're really probably trying to get to

1063
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: the bottom of Yo, what's going on with this though?

1064
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: Did you say anything about the rap man? We done

1065
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: saw stranger things. Man, let's keep it a hunter again.

1066
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1067
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: I ain't sol rollow paperwork again. If you tried to

1068
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: run a move, that's where you make a mistake, y'all.

1069
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: Let I'm trying to make it, juice it for him

1070
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: and do it. That's the mistake. That was the mistake.

1071
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: I also want to lay some ground rules for people

1072
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: who don't understand sometimes you're gonna have to talk to

1073
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: the police, like if a murder for shooting happened on

1074
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: my property, or I shoot a nigga. Sometimes we got

1075
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with the police. Like some of

1076
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: y'all understanding on what's happening in real life is so

1077
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: far from reality.

1078
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: It's astonishing to me.

1079
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: The shit started to be appalling to me, Like I'm

1080
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: flabbergas and I'm tooking back like I'm clutching my pearls

1081
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: when I think about it, Like y'all be that space

1082
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: out and burnt out. Y'all ain't really understanding. But I'm

1083
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: gonna give you a thousand grands a game.

1084
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: Pay attention. Let's listen to a little.

1085
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 6: More, bring the whole discovery. Like I felt like you

1086
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 6: went above and beyond.

1087
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 4: But but but let's talk about you know the subsequent you know,

1088
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 4: you going to jail. How did that case play outs?

1089
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 4: Did you take it the trialogy you take a plea?

1090
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 4: What were you looking at? What was the mindset of

1091
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 4: even doing that? I mean, because your call red handed?

1092
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 4: Too right, call red handed?

1093
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 5: So actually when I wanted that profit, my lawyer ended

1094
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 5: up being determined to be a conflict of interest because

1095
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 5: they saying the forms that I was it and KINDI

1096
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 5: was chised him and his name this man me, So

1097
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 5: they already knew that, these fums, but I couldn't prove

1098
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 5: beyond reason of doubt that they knew. But if in

1099
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 5: fact that they did know, and they walked me into

1100
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 5: a palys noo yeh all on one of them too

1101
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 5: and shoot you know again when it comes to especially

1102
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 5: the media, And then this is why I think you've

1103
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 5: learned the power of speaking for yourself. Where because if

1104
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 5: one person saying Rollo did a and you don't say nothing,

1105
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 5: the people gonna look at him be like he said,

1106
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 5: Rod they do that shit. And I think that also,

1107
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 5: like it's almost like anas and death, bro, like I said,

1108
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 5: like he fine for his life and he no hanging

1109
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 5: did shit like I was, I'm fine for my life.

1110
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 5: I'm fine for my reputation. I think that that's the

1111
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 5: worst shit you can be called. It smell me so

1112
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 5: like you put me in a lineup with that really told,

1113
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 5: I might see my name there, nigga really told. Like

1114
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 5: dudes that are saying they incocerated for these individuals and

1115
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 5: I just didn't never know that it was a crime

1116
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 5: against the cold. A lot of fiends like I just didn't.

1117
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 5: I really I still don't get that. But what that

1118
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 5: man said, If y'all got these type of rules in

1119
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 5: the game, I just don't want to be a part

1120
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 5: of it, smeam me, if I can't god damn pay

1121
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 5: a nigga take a charge, or I can't lie to

1122
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 5: the mother police, or I can't buy my way, like

1123
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 5: I don't want to be a part of the ship.

1124
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 5: Like what the hell kind of got y'all? And I won?

1125
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 5: You know, I won on an utsmal level problem thirty million,

1126
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 5: not a dope game. How the hell could a scrap

1127
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 5: punker peon tell me how to play the game and

1128
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 5: they ain't even want on the game.

1129
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 4: Majority of things in life is better to be liked

1130
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 4: than to be right, because people pick and choose. If

1131
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 4: they like you, even if you do wrong, they make

1132
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 4: it right. When they don't like you, you could do right,

1133
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 4: it's gonna be wrong, exactly. And I heard either you

1134
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 4: basically just basically saying, yo, your niggas do pick and choose.

1135
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 4: Because you know, there was an outrage. I feel like

1136
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 4: they were they were ready to come with with the

1137
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 4: tiki torches for you, like, nah, let's get this, let's

1138
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 4: get his reputation and everything with him to put him

1139
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 4: as that, and then when you debunked a lot of stuff,

1140
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 4: I didn't hear too many apologies. I heard quietness right

1141
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 4: And even now with this current situation, which I think

1142
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 4: everyone's talking about this big meat stuff, which I mean,

1143
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 4: I still don't even know exactly what's the facts is,

1144
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 4: but it felt like people are more they're more understanding

1145
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 4: or the sea they'll speak out less against him. With you,

1146
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 4: it was more like it was whatever y'all said that

1147
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 4: he probably did that shit. Man, this that makes you

1148
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 4: feel a way because because I.

1149
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 5: Just feel like you're picking and choosing like if he

1150
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 5: of course he got an allegation on him, I don't

1151
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 5: you know, everybody in the world keep saying I'm going

1152
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 5: against my mom sleep this. And my only thing was

1153
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 5: I seen some of my real friends on that flight.

1154
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 5: I seen some of my one friends and I ain't

1155
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 5: no no hang ship like that. But if you're gonna

1156
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 5: do the ship, then me do it to him. Did

1157
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 5: you did you see any of your real friends really

1158
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 5: switch up on you?

1159
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 3: Though?

1160
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, you don't see me like that. You don't

1161
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 5: see that ship like broad like we used to be,

1162
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 5: you small me like they love me like I ain't

1163
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 5: gonna take it from him, like I'm school to that.

1164
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 5: My dog. I love him to death, that's my whole heart.

1165
01:01:56,040 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 5: But nigga, don't love me privately, love me public, smell me,

1166
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 5: and I get to say and shit, oh you start

1167
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 5: speaking on a nigga. Nah, hell Na, I seen the

1168
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 5: name on the flyer? Why is your name on n that?

1169
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 5: If you don't fuck with so called right, you smell

1170
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 5: me that that ship hurts you in the sense of

1171
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 5: damn life.

1172
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 4: If it was anybody's supposed to get the benefit of

1173
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 4: the doubt, if you want clear, it was supposed to

1174
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 4: be me, not not somebody else.

1175
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 5: I ain't even I can't even say that because the

1176
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,439
Speaker 5: honorward dude on for the two doug what he did,

1177
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 5: I really was like here, yeah for the two dogs saying, nigga,

1178
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,439
Speaker 5: y'all gotta show me what meat sold. Y'all gotta show

1179
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 5: me the nigga he told on right now, show me

1180
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 5: the paperwork. That's what I want my nigga to do. Yeah,

1181
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 5: while School ain't saying, hey, come here, show me the

1182
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 5: niggas and Jeff forlo smell me like why like or

1183
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 5: you nigga gotta do in the front of the whole world.

1184
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 5: If you're not an Internet niggas.

1185
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: Come to me and be like again, let me give

1186
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: Ralo the other side to that number one. Let me

1187
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: address the fact of forty two Doug and Big Meats.

1188
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: I think that scenario is a bit different.

1189
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: When he said show me Big Meats name in paperwork, Rauloh,

1190
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: I think you got a mistaken when they showing you

1191
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: your name in paperwork. Your defense is Yo, my name

1192
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: in paperwork. But Nigga I went in there and not

1193
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: just made it juice.

1194
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 5: It for him.

1195
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: So what you asking them to do, they really don't done.

1196
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: So now what you asking for is for Nick that

1197
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: you know and fuck with to give you the benefit

1198
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: of the doctor. Know yeah, Rollo probably didn't go in

1199
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: there and give them nothing. I'm giving you the logic

1200
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: of young school or probably Nigga like that. Just so

1201
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: Ralloh cannounce this and maybe this can clarify some things.

1202
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: So your homies maybe fuck with you or you can

1203
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: clarify your position. The question now becomes if you're taking

1204
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: the approach that forty two Doug took, which is I

1205
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: need to see Meat's name in paperwork, all right, jading

1206
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: them had a piece of paper that your name was

1207
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: in paperwork. Now you're asking for the benefit of the

1208
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: doubt from people that you know, like you know my body,

1209
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: you know how I'm cut.

1210
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: I ain't get him no information.

1211
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: So the new question from the people that know you

1212
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: on that level could be, well, if that's the case,

1213
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: why would Brian still ask for them to seal it?

1214
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: And if it came out, it'll hurt your rap credibility

1215
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: and your safety. That's the scenario that you're in that

1216
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: you boxing your way out of, and so you're gonna

1217
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: have to move around for a minute with that shit

1218
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: and trying to explain like what's going on. That's number one.

1219
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: Number two, I can feel rollo pain.

1220
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: Just pitch it.

1221
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,959
Speaker 1: If you did go in there and you really didn't

1222
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: say nothing, you really didn't get them folks no information.

1223
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: You made a mistake going in there. But I really

1224
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: didn't tell them folks nothing. I went it done all

1225
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: that time. I didn't tell them folks nothing. I know

1226
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: that shit'll be heavy on a nigga. All a nigga

1227
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: are to be broke. But bruh, you cannot force nigga

1228
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: to be your home boy, you don't know them nigga.

1229
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: If you been gone six seven years, them nigga might

1230
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: have cut off weigh more powerful nickga than you for

1231
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: shit like that. You might have quit talking to they cousin,

1232
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: they daddy, they uncle, they little brother about some shit

1233
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: like that in real be you don't know what scenario

1234
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: niggas in about shit like that. And you just saying

1235
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: forgetting me in the public. Forgive me, yo, bro, hold

1236
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: on like you doing too much like a nigga love you.

1237
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: You've done what you've done, but a nigga trying to

1238
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: be on all of that. Bro, You can't force no

1239
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: nigs to be your home boy. This is what I

1240
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: be saying. A lot of niggas looking desperate. That's why

1241
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: they like Big Me showing up in a Casho T

1242
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: shirt Like you ain't got no business even if you're

1243
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: gonna be with Ross, get some little paper from Ross,

1244
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: put him on the fly. You shouldn't have had to

1245
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: put on no Casho T shirt and take no picture.

1246
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: Rollo don't got no business. Ed time I look around, man,

1247
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: my friends ain't fucking man. My friends ain't doing it.

1248
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: That be making me reconsider some of these interviews how

1249
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: I be talking. Man, y'all never look like I'm wound

1250
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: it over here. We're doing good over here. We're gonna

1251
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: talk about wins ill. Let old man, they ain't my friend.

1252
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: They ain't fucking with me. Man, you can't make nigga

1253
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: talk with you, homie. They not giving nigga benefit of

1254
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: the doubt. Brian Still might have us snook it allegedly

1255
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: because I fucked with Brian Steele And I'm only fucking

1256
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: podcast laying.

1257
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 3: You know.

1258
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: I love you Brian still. But if Brian still was

1259
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: me and I knew what happened, I'll be telling people

1260
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm close with.

1261
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 3: You don't know.

1262
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: You don't know if the information might have got out

1263
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: from other people who are You don't know what going on,

1264
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: what people might know. But all I know is, at

1265
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Rollo gotta face the reality

1266
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: that nigga love him, Nigga speak him, nig think he

1267
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: was a mean hustler.

1268
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, he.

1269
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: Gonna have to clear his face like he gonna have

1270
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: to keep pushing to try to clear up and get

1271
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: that benefit of a doubt from the people. Don't get

1272
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: that away nowadays, Bro, It's too much sucker shit going on.

1273
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: They don't get a benefit of the doubt away nowadays,

1274
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: you dig what I'm saying. If it looked like a

1275
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: duck and quack like a duck, I don't even got

1276
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: to hear it sound like a duck. You hear me,

1277
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 1: I don't get a benefit of a doubt. I watch

1278
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: how you treat Yeah, I see what's going on. I'm right,

1279
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: And unfortunately for people, they gotta deal with me being

1280
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: that aggressive and cutting such a hard line because.

1281
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 2: Life too short.

1282
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: Life too short to get an entanglements where you don't

1283
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: really know people's parameters and boundaries and you don't.

1284
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 3: Know where to take it or where a nigga took it.

1285
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: Say, I'd rather stay on my own platform on dealing

1286
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: with my own portfolio. You dig what I'm saying, building

1287
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: my own playground, That's where I'd.

1288
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 2: Rather stand at.

1289
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: But Rollo has to face harsh reality that they are

1290
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: dealing with your name in paperwork. You're asking for the

1291
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt, which is different from what forty

1292
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: two Doug is doing. Forty two Doug is saying, show

1293
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: me his name and some paperwork. If they came in

1294
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: there and said big meach name is in paperwork. He

1295
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: gave this, so he done this if it's in there,

1296
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: And then the lawyer came out and said, Yo, we

1297
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: need to suppress this document because if this document gets out,

1298
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Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt Big Meatch's career in his TV series

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Speaker 1: forty two.

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Speaker 2: Doug and them look at that different. So for people

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Speaker 2: that love you, know you.

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Speaker 1: And respect you in Atlanta, you gotta get him the

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01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. And you gotta know that you

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Speaker 1: asking them to give you the benefit of the doubt,

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Speaker 1: you ain't just saying, look at the paperwork, because if

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Speaker 1: they look at the paperwork, it look funny, not just

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Speaker 1: your one page, or not just the one page Jade had.

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Speaker 1: If they look at the paperwork, it looked funny. Bro,

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Speaker 1: I give Rolod the benefit of the doubt. No direct

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Speaker 1: arrest came from it, so we gotta make sure that

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Speaker 1: that's on the We gotta make sure to put that

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Speaker 1: on the record. No direct or rest came from it.

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Speaker 1: That don't mean no information came from it. Those of

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Speaker 1: you in the streets know how this work. Academics don't

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Speaker 1: know because that academics is a streamer, so he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: know but giving the police information that lead to a

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Speaker 1: director rest, especially in a high profile case that's dealing

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of kiloads or a bunch of Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: it don't even work like that.

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Speaker 2: They be need names. Who's the guy in the black

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Speaker 2: carr and.

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Speaker 1: That's Tony Man, y'all gonna let me out. That's little Tony.

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Speaker 1: That's Loan Loan being the red COmON. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: little things that connect the dots for them. Just pay attention.

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Speaker 1: And again, I want to be clear with this. Loan

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Speaker 1: ain't calling roll on, no Red, I ain't saw his paperwork.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling him based on what he's saying, he gotta

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Speaker 1: understand the circumstances. He in my name, gonna check out

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Speaker 1: clean on every circumstance.

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Speaker 5: Stamp that I heard this. Now tell me what's your part?

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Speaker 5: Like what's going on? And then another thing like you

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Speaker 5: gotta think about it.

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Speaker 2: They want to.

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Speaker 5: Know who this person is that's punt is played together?

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Speaker 5: You want me to say this shit in the front

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Speaker 5: of the whole world. Then are Nick really gonna be

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Speaker 5: in jail for me? Then you smell me? So you

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Speaker 5: really want me to snitch? You smell you want me

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Speaker 5: to snitch on the niggas helping niggs working they move.

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Speaker 5: I get what you could do, academics of Jade to anybody.

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Speaker 5: You ain't gotta do it on an interview. You can

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Speaker 5: just tell me, aytt, people of the US not move.

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Speaker 5: We can go to the side and I can talk

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Speaker 5: to you like this the man, and we can call

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Speaker 5: them and we can get some communication like Okay, this

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Speaker 5: is the people, this is what's going on. But don't

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Speaker 5: ask me from the world who this page eight us

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Speaker 5: about what You can come talk to me and I'll

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Speaker 5: show you. We can call them and we can hand

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Speaker 5: the bend. Well, I'm not finna put that business out

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Speaker 5: there to the whole fuck.

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Speaker 4: Earl, I said Scooter coming under a post, And I

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Speaker 4: think you basically was saying, like, you know, I haven't

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Speaker 4: heard you say like that's not my homie no more.

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Speaker 4: But but but you clearly letting people know you know,

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Speaker 4: I do feel a way about it, but I do

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Speaker 4: want to resolve it. And and I do like the

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Speaker 4: fact that you vocalize that you feel a way about it,

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Speaker 4: because I'm gonna be honest with you. A lot of times,

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Speaker 4: the accusation is way louder than when people have to

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Speaker 4: come back and be like, no, your niggas had it wrong.

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Speaker 4: So you know, even when you and Boosy had that

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Speaker 4: little back and forth, I'm like, I can't really blame

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Speaker 4: you because this is how if I'm someone new to

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Speaker 4: the situation. Now I'm knowing, oh yeah, it was lying

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Speaker 4: on him because before we only heard the accusation.

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Speaker 6: We're just to stand.

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Speaker 4: With with even Scooter now and even like say Boosy

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Speaker 4: because Boosy, I don't know, Boosy was in a tough

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Speaker 4: spot because he's a guy who's been really anti people

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Speaker 4: don't and I don't know if it was because he

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Speaker 4: was caught up.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes he's on flat a lot and they asked him

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Speaker 4: the direct question, and I think a lot of times

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Speaker 4: he's looking like he can't be in the middle of

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Speaker 4: a situation or he can't say I don't know, so

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Speaker 4: he might say something that then later, you know, people

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Speaker 4: use his voice very heavily.

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Speaker 6: What's the situation with both those guys?

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, I pulled up on Bootsai and

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Speaker 5: we resolved that you smelled me like I couldn't just

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Speaker 5: keep doing all that internet shit, so I had to

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Speaker 5: pull up on him and we resolved it. I showed

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Speaker 5: him what's going on, and you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: he kind of got to understanding from from what I

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Speaker 5: seen in front of me or whatnot and your school

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Speaker 5: to himself, like I ain't really want to push up

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Speaker 5: on school to own those ship like that, because like

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Speaker 5: I said on the blog, like if we got a

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Speaker 5: problemst fight us some shit like that. And they saying

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Speaker 5: Robod trying to fight school. That ain't what the fucker said.

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Speaker 5: Like usually bros be able to work shot out. You

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Speaker 5: smell me like you ain't even gave it the benefit

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Speaker 5: of the doctor. You ain't even pulled up and pulled

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Speaker 5: my coattail, Like before you go to the world or

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Speaker 5: go to any nick in a business for your man,

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Speaker 5: come talk to me, smell me. And so I really

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Speaker 5: never know what he's staying that with it, But you know,

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Speaker 5: I was.

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Speaker 4: More, are you down to do maybe the same thing

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Speaker 4: that you do?

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Speaker 2: Bos?

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Speaker 6: I think they listen, let me, let's let me pull that.

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Speaker 5: Boots was a lot more toxic.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was seeming like he was going extra like

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Speaker 4: the third person getting between that or third they told

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Speaker 4: me where he was at and we pulled up.

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Speaker 5: It looked kind of crazy at the beginning, but you

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Speaker 5: know we was able to sit down like men. You

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Speaker 5: smell me and I ain't. I wasn't ever coming on

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Speaker 5: though I'm trying to, you know, bully boots off, pull

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Speaker 5: him like hell. No, I never would say shot up

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Speaker 5: as niggah like that. You know what I'm saying. I

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Speaker 5: probably did say that a couple of times. But however,

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Speaker 5: that ain't what I'm saying like I'm trying to ship

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Speaker 5: on the man. I'm just saying like I pulled up

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Speaker 5: on him in a way that I want to pull

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Speaker 5: it up on my Mansme me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you don't know what he could have been.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he could have.

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Speaker 1: We could have been a whole lot you would have been.

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Speaker 1: I was talking crazy. I'm glad that got so. He

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Speaker 1: didn't really catch their academics then. But let me speak

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Speaker 1: to that. I think whatever percentage of the people that's

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Speaker 1: still on thow side is because he fighting for name. Right,

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Speaker 1: There's there's something to be said about a nigga's trying

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01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: to fight for their name to make you at least

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01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: be like, damn, but that nigga ain for his fucking name,

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01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, like it make you,

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01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: it make you view it, It make you just watch

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01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: him and look at it. But again, you know, he

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Speaker 1: pull up on boost probably strong with a couple of

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01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: niggas like whatever this goal we go man, But dude,

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Speaker 1: coment read a hundred times like we gotta figure this out.

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01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: Boosty hadn't publicly straightened that. He publicly straightened the t

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Speaker 1: I think so, I think what people are. I think

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01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: the disconnect with Rollo is what I spoke to a

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Speaker 1: few minutes ago, is that he needs for the people

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01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: he want to work with and he love, and the

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01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: boostes and scooters and all of them niggas, he needed

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01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 1: for them to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 2: That he went in that room and he didn't say nothing.

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01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: But if they've been in the streets long enough, they're

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Speaker 1: probably dealing with some results. What dudes done gave him

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Speaker 1: information that did not lead to a direct arrest, but

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01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: it was enough information that had him in the area

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01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: where another bus could have happened, or something may have

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01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: took place. You may have told him the route. You

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01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: made them told them that yo, they putting it in

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01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: the tie. You ain't tell them who putting it in

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01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: a tie?

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01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 2: What car?

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01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: They just know when you get a car and pull

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 1: it over, now look in the tie. These are kind

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: of scenarios where people can give information and.

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01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,879
Speaker 2: Not be necessarily in paperwork as a snitch.

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Speaker 1: Again, understand that someone in the situation that Ralloh is

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Speaker 1: in you get a five K one. Again, the five

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Speaker 1: K one is a formal request, so of course a

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Speaker 1: RESK gotta be made for them to say he gave

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Speaker 1: us information that helped lead to the rest of.

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01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 2: Such and such.

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01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: But when someone is under investigation, you don't have to

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01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: necessarily give them something that leads to an the rest

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Speaker 1: to add to the investigation. And I think for Raloh,

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01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't understand that people's mindset's living there.

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01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why people are kind of like man hold.

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Speaker 1: On because Brian still said something he kind of dog

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01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: whistled to us. Brian still a real nick kind of

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01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: dog whistled in that, Hey, the rap community as much

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01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: as he can say because clan pretty as much he

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01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: can give us. But he gave that little bit some

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01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: about the rap community cause he ain't have to say that,

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01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying, But he's some about the

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Speaker 1: rap community.

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01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 3: Oh whoa.

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01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: People are going to have an adverse reaction to that.

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01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: I wish Roalal the best. He has to understand that

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01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: there's nowhere around it. That's what he's working through. Let's

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Speaker 1: see where he goes from him.