Speaker 1: The Nicky Glazer podcast. Nicky Gazer, here's Nikki. Okay taking
Speaker 1: my invisile line? Is that how you start every No,
Speaker 1: it's not. That was the first. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I did that. When you're here, Hi, guys, here I am.
Speaker 1: It's Nicki Glazer podcast. I'm Nicki Glazer. It is Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Andrew Colin is not in studio, but um, because I
Speaker 1: am on trying to do as much of a vocal
Speaker 1: rest as I can. This is the one hour day
Speaker 1: that I really let myself talk. Um. I am bringing
Speaker 1: in guests to help support that and just to have
Speaker 1: some freaking fun. And Andrew's not here today, so filling
Speaker 1: in for him in studio is from The Courtney Show,
Speaker 1: which you can listen to anywhere you get podcasts. You
Speaker 1: can also listen to it on one of six point
Speaker 1: five the Art if you live in St. Louis. He
Speaker 1: is a co host of that show. He's also the
Speaker 1: co creator and co EP of the show Not Safe
Speaker 1: with Nicky Glazer. And he's also my lover and the
Speaker 1: co creator of this relationship. Yeah, you have EP credit
Speaker 1: on this re as well. It's Chris Convey everyone. Hey, guys, Hey,
Speaker 1: it's Chris Convey he's here and UM joining us from
Speaker 1: Arizona is of course noah hi, Noah hi. And then
Speaker 1: joining us from New York City where she is currently
Speaker 1: hold up, which is in a rap that UM we
Speaker 1: have determined if you're just now hearing that word for
Speaker 1: the first time, which I know Chris Convy is because
Speaker 1: he kind of went home. UM a new thing. UM.
Speaker 1: In addition to UM, we have also coined um the
Speaker 1: word rape, which is a fancy French way of saying
Speaker 1: ear rape, which is like a thing that someone says
Speaker 1: that you just go like oh, and it's just like
Speaker 1: like you didn't ask for it, you didn't want it.
Speaker 1: Actually now it's just penetrated your ears and it's like
Speaker 1: in you and you, UM, so is it. You have
Speaker 1: to keep the baby it gave you because you live
Speaker 1: in America now and even though it was not, it
Speaker 1: was forced on you. You You have to keep that sucking
Speaker 1: thought in your head. What was the original Rabbi? The
Speaker 1: original Taylor me was nomnom I saw. I just kept
Speaker 1: hearing my adult friends saying nom nom noam, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I do not Instagram. It was like ten
Speaker 1: years ago. I remember first seeing them or maybe I
Speaker 1: hate when adults infantilize them. So so I remember my
Speaker 1: favorite one. That is it. I was today years old
Speaker 1: when I learned this. I kind of like that one.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, it's like when I first heard it,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's good, but you're right, it's like
Speaker 1: now it's over you. But that I kind of the
Speaker 1: first time I saw it, I was like, that's clever.
Speaker 1: Much like last night we were watching f Boy Island
Speaker 1: and I was telling Chris about He was asking me
Speaker 1: about the Mega dates on f Boy Island, which are
Speaker 1: these twenty four hour dates that the girls had at
Speaker 1: the very end with the two guys that are in
Speaker 1: their final two. If you haven't watched Half Boy Island, um,
Speaker 1: at the very end, each girl has two guys um
Speaker 1: in their final two. They have to decide between which
Speaker 1: one and they go on mega dates, which is a
Speaker 1: just a dumb thing that we called it. And there
Speaker 1: twenty four hour dates and there and and my friend
Speaker 1: Halla on our group chat asked, she was like, are
Speaker 1: these dates back to back? Like is there any rest
Speaker 1: in between? Or are these girls? What did she say
Speaker 1: in the chat on you know, it was so funny.
Speaker 1: She was like, do they have time to like dump
Speaker 1: out or something like. It wasn't about like it was.
Speaker 1: It was like there was some funny way that she said. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it is true those dates are stacked. There isn't a
Speaker 1: break in between. It's like, you know, maybe they like
Speaker 1: have a couple hours or something, but it's like the
Speaker 1: next day they wake up in bed or wherever they
Speaker 1: did with the guy, and then they get dressed and
Speaker 1: they go out with the other Then then they go
Speaker 1: to the house and meet the other guy. So we're
Speaker 1: talking about it yesterday, and I told Chris that last season,
Speaker 1: which he has not seen and I didn't even watch,
Speaker 1: I don't think the phenale of last season, but I
Speaker 1: remembered distinctly new Jared telling case who Casey was the
Speaker 1: second date of c J's and he asked, Casey, you
Speaker 1: know how my dick taste last night? And that was
Speaker 1: the first time I had ever heard someone say that.
Speaker 1: And I remember being like, that's pretty clever and disgusting,
Speaker 1: but clever for a guy like that isn't really that
Speaker 1: funny on the show. I mean, he was, it was
Speaker 1: charming whatever, but he wasn't Like I thought it was
Speaker 1: a good line and Chris last night told me because
Speaker 1: I was like, Chris, this disgusting thing happened. This guy
Speaker 1: said this thing is kind of funny, and he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's that's a line. You know guys. I mean I've
Speaker 1: I've probably heard that since I was And that's the
Speaker 1: difference between men and women. Like there's it's let's locker
Speaker 1: room talk without making it a trumpy thing. That's like
Speaker 1: a thing that exists in male circles that you guys
Speaker 1: are not it's not bleeding out in front of women. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because why would you ever hear that. There's certain things
Speaker 1: that you just now that I've I have like male
Speaker 1: friends who are not trying to like fuck me, and
Speaker 1: it's just like comfortable and there there's just a there's
Speaker 1: they talk around me like there's no incentive to to
Speaker 1: hold anything back around me. You get these little slices
Speaker 1: of male life that you're like, I did not know
Speaker 1: men talked like this. Yeah, there's another there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of Yeah, it's yeah, lack of room is hate
Speaker 1: that is connotated with Trump. Now, Yeah, it is kind
Speaker 1: of and it's just also like, um, it's also like
Speaker 1: misogynistic and there's some other things. There's there's some pretty,
Speaker 1: there's some there's some gross stuff about it, but there
Speaker 1: is another world of like what you know, how guys
Speaker 1: are actually just talking around each other when it's just
Speaker 1: guys and like I went to an all guys school,
Speaker 1: and there is sort of another level of it isn't
Speaker 1: like weird and gross like like locker room talk, but
Speaker 1: it's just like when guys are hanging out all day
Speaker 1: every day together like that you guys talk about your
Speaker 1: feelings about really share about what you're going through on
Speaker 1: you do you are there any like guy things that
Speaker 1: you've discovered recently that you didn't know before that you
Speaker 1: would be like, how did I you know? In all
Speaker 1: my years? How did I not know that guys did
Speaker 1: this sort of thing regularly? I just could believe when
Speaker 1: I first went on tour with a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: in a van, I couldn't believe how much they've fucking talked.
Speaker 1: I was like, these guys talk forever about nothing. It
Speaker 1: was nothing like how do you talk for seven hours
Speaker 1: without ever saying one interesting thing about you're talking about? It?
Speaker 1: Is it about? Like because they're talking about Star Wars
Speaker 1: or sports? Yeah, Like it was wild to me, and
Speaker 1: I was envious because I hate small talk and I
Speaker 1: don't know how to do it, and I always cut
Speaker 1: right to the chase, too deep to the chase with strangers,
Speaker 1: and I would love to know how to make small talk.
Speaker 1: So I was kind of studying them. But by the
Speaker 1: end of the tour, I was still just as lost
Speaker 1: as I was in the beginning. I was just shocked that, like,
Speaker 1: never in seven hours would anyone ever get around to
Speaker 1: like relationship talk or I'm bummed about this or that.
Speaker 1: It was just like, oh, yeah, bro, have you seen this?
Speaker 1: Just like just that for seven hours? Is it any
Speaker 1: space for for the idea that the guys communicate those
Speaker 1: things in different ways at all? Like, No, there's space
Speaker 1: for the fact that men's brains are different and you
Speaker 1: don't need and your hormones are different, like you don't
Speaker 1: need as much. You guys definitely need more emotional connections
Speaker 1: than you're getting, because I just see you just I
Speaker 1: think men are just by culturally starved of that stuff
Speaker 1: because it's gay if you guys ever cry or anything
Speaker 1: or you know, whatever it is. But I think that
Speaker 1: you definitely need it less than we do. Yeah, probably,
Speaker 1: I remember a book I read in high school. Book
Speaker 1: it's called Lords of Discipline, and it's about like guys
Speaker 1: that are going to like a military academy and they've
Speaker 1: they've been off for the summer and they hadn't seen
Speaker 1: each other in three months or four months or whatever
Speaker 1: it is, and they get back to school and with
Speaker 1: their old roommates they're best friends, and one guy was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: good to see you. Uh, you know, really really miss you.
Speaker 1: And then the main character talked to the to the
Speaker 1: other guy in the same room, and the other guy's like, hey,
Speaker 1: douche bag, I hoped I wouldn't have to see you
Speaker 1: again this year. And then the author said, but you know,
Speaker 1: both guys said the same thing. So it's like both
Speaker 1: guys were communicating I love you, missed you, but it
Speaker 1: was in their own ways, and that landed on the
Speaker 1: main character. One of the most like an example of
Speaker 1: this that I witnessed, and I may have talked about
Speaker 1: it on the podcast, but I don't think I did.
Speaker 1: When I had my birthday party this year that Chris
Speaker 1: ep Um, it was at a karaoke bar, or like
Speaker 1: a bar in St. Louis, but it was karaoke room
Speaker 1: it was so much fun. And the whole time, like,
Speaker 1: you know, everyone's singing I'm a good time. Chris is
Speaker 1: kind of like more managing the like you're making sure
Speaker 1: everyone's having a good time. You haven't sung yet, you're
Speaker 1: like just hanging back. Then at one point, you know,
Speaker 1: probably three fourths of the way through, we've all sung.
Speaker 1: And then Matt, my brother in law, and you decided
Speaker 1: to sing Weezer the Sweater song or no say it.
Speaker 1: I think it might have been saying so. And they
Speaker 1: both went to all boys like Christian not Chris. Yours
Speaker 1: wasn't benedicting. Okay, yeah, years was monks and his was Jesus, Jesus.
Speaker 1: It's I don't even I don't know what any of
Speaker 1: it means. But they had this performance of this song
Speaker 1: that looked as if they were taught it at some point,
Speaker 1: like almost like the electric Slide. He my dad turned
Speaker 1: to me and goes, did they plan this? He goes,
Speaker 1: what is happening right now? They both it was homeo
Speaker 1: erotic in the funniest way, but they both like Chris
Speaker 1: Chris when they hold the microphone like like he was peeing,
Speaker 1: and then Matt would bend down and sing into it,
Speaker 1: and then Matt would do the same thing, and Chris
Speaker 1: thing into it, and there was no hesitation, there was
Speaker 1: no like I'm gonna do this follow along. It was
Speaker 1: as if you guys were speaking this like. It was
Speaker 1: so funny. That was the point of I mean it
Speaker 1: was it was were performed. It was for us, but
Speaker 1: it was so funny, But it was I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: it because it was just like you guys didn't even talk.
Speaker 1: I mean you maybe talked a little bit throughout the night.
Speaker 1: It was this unspoken thing. You both just grab them
Speaker 1: like and knew exactly what was going to happen with
Speaker 1: the star. There's a shorthand with with like a certain
Speaker 1: kind of guy at a certain age, Like you did
Speaker 1: a shorthand job in the middle of it too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you must quite getting easy. It was so funny. What
Speaker 1: was it? What's the shorthand? Well, it's just that there
Speaker 1: is a shorthand with with like you know, like we
Speaker 1: grew up in the same place. But you know what
Speaker 1: I've got, I've got Australian friends that would do the
Speaker 1: exact same thing. We would have been in the exact
Speaker 1: same position, And so I think there's a certain age
Speaker 1: which you know, like I'm forty right now, and I
Speaker 1: think Matt's like thirty seven something like that. So it's
Speaker 1: like there's an age range where there's like a little
Speaker 1: bit of a backlash against like like bro type culture
Speaker 1: things where like if you did anything, if you've got any,
Speaker 1: if you got close to another guy, then that's just
Speaker 1: go all the way. Well no, it's like no, it's
Speaker 1: just like if other people, like the generation right above
Speaker 1: us or just a few years older, would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's what you guys are doing is gay? Yes. My
Speaker 1: dad was like this is really gay, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: this is how in the late nineties two thousand's like
Speaker 1: boys schools. We don't care. We're just like we do.
Speaker 1: Matt and I do love each other, like we at
Speaker 1: least I love him. I think he's one of the
Speaker 1: greatest things going. So there's no insecurities about the way
Speaker 1: we look. There's no insecurities about what we're doing, Like
Speaker 1: you know, we're dating sisters. Like, it doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: even dawn on us that other people would look at
Speaker 1: this and being like so. But my dad's reaction was
Speaker 1: the like he was just saying to me, just like
Speaker 1: do they do they work on this? Like is this
Speaker 1: for you? As this like a like almost like a wedding,
Speaker 1: like a wedding dance of the secretly all straight man
Speaker 1: when they get a little loose, they know, when they
Speaker 1: see a ballex symbol, you get on your knees and
Speaker 1: you suck it into a second. No, but don't you
Speaker 1: guys know, haven't you noticed that there is a like
Speaker 1: there are certain guys that would shy away from anything
Speaker 1: that could even because they're probably gay the little bit. No.
Speaker 1: I also think it's because they like, don't you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's just a little bit older than us.
Speaker 1: They just think that that's really weird. Whereas like like
Speaker 1: my friends use you know, people used to use gay
Speaker 1: and about like they would be like, oh that's you
Speaker 1: know when when you're young, some people will be like,
Speaker 1: oh man, that's gay. And Duft did that campaign and
Speaker 1: then we all stopped. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: She did like a p S A that was like, um,
Speaker 1: these two girls were like shopping it for between one
Speaker 1: and Hillary Duff is like nearby overhearing them. It was
Speaker 1: probably like two four. She did this and they go like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's so gay, and she goes. I
Speaker 1: just want to say, what if I said something like
Speaker 1: if I didn't like something and I said, wow, that's
Speaker 1: so the girl in the red shirt that's standing in
Speaker 1: front of me right now, how would that make you feel?
Speaker 1: And the girls were just like it was just like
Speaker 1: Hilary Duff saved the world. And you remember ever seeing
Speaker 1: tho paparazzi shots of her giving her husband a blowing
Speaker 1: when he proposes. I just remember, she's the first so invasive,
Speaker 1: but I loved She's the first person I noticed that
Speaker 1: had those big, huge teeth that were like brand new.
Speaker 1: I didn't know where that was going. They came out
Speaker 1: and I was like, teeth. She got her teeth done,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden those originals. I was zooming
Speaker 1: in on Taylor Swift's teeth last night on Instagram and
Speaker 1: those are something ears. Really, They're so good. Now. I
Speaker 1: have nothing against people get holling anyone out. Duff was
Speaker 1: early in the game, and I think, well, I think
Speaker 1: there is also like women also have this kind of um.
Speaker 1: There are certain things that we do that maybe you
Speaker 1: go like, where the hell did you learn that? Like
Speaker 1: Anya does it a lot. I see where you'll go,
Speaker 1: like if you ever get into it like a dancy, sexy,
Speaker 1: moved mood when we're backstage just hanging out, like you'll
Speaker 1: like slap your ass and go like up it, like
Speaker 1: you'll do like a striper kind of Do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? I did not know I do this.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of myself. Oh wow, I just do that
Speaker 1: that will hit that we learned from Britney Spears or
Speaker 1: like I don't even know, but like, do you ever see, Chris,
Speaker 1: do you ever notice things when you're around a bunch
Speaker 1: of girls where you go just go or I guess
Speaker 1: my friends, I think that I admire you and your friendships.
Speaker 1: Like I think it's I think you have the coolest
Speaker 1: friendships that I currently know about, Like you're you growing
Speaker 1: up with your goofy girlfriends. Reminds me of uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the nerds we used to make fun of in school.
Speaker 1: He's like Mercedes, goofy what from F Boy. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you saw that episode, but he overused the
Speaker 1: word goofy. Just kept calling this guy goofy over and
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he's one of the guys on the show
Speaker 1: The black guy. That is the one that you think.
Speaker 1: We haven't watched the finale yet, but Chris thinks that
Speaker 1: Mercedes is going to Louise is going to pick Mercedes
Speaker 1: said that he is going to keep the money. But
Speaker 1: he but he's not keeping the money because he's a
Speaker 1: good guy. He's just planning what's going to be best
Speaker 1: for him in the long run. I think he You haven't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't watched the first season. He seems
Speaker 1: like he would be the ultimate, like the greatest f
Speaker 1: boy of maybe that's ever lived. Like, he seems like
Speaker 1: he's perfectly so it's so good that he'll marry her,
Speaker 1: treat her right, spend his whole life like the long game. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the real long game, like and then funk her over
Speaker 1: in the will or something. By that point he has
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. He's like, I got it. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: that's what you get after your you know, taxes on
Speaker 1: this game, even if you walk away with fifty. Um.
Speaker 1: We watched, Yeah, we watched episode eight and nine last
Speaker 1: Night of a Boy, and we didn't get through ten
Speaker 1: because we wanted to watch the rehearsal the New Nathan
Speaker 1: Fielder Show and it's so good. But I do have
Speaker 1: to say I was really Chris is obviously amazing TV producer,
Speaker 1: and you know, everyone's a little skeptical about f Boy Island,
Speaker 1: like what is this? But at one point you turned
Speaker 1: to me and you were like, this show is what
Speaker 1: did you say? Well, I didn't say this show. I
Speaker 1: said this is some this is incredible TV. Like we
Speaker 1: watched we were it was like the I think, oh,
Speaker 1: Nico or is that his name, Nico? Oh? You meant
Speaker 1: like that scene? Yeah, I said, I was like, this
Speaker 1: is incredible TV right now, because there was a few
Speaker 1: scenes that were just like, I take that, feeling good
Speaker 1: about my show for a second. Back you only liked
Speaker 1: one scene. I'm glad you've made that clear. Oh sorry,
Speaker 1: I thought we were man. I thought we were going
Speaker 1: for accuracy on the sand. This podcast was about authenticity
Speaker 1: and the truth it is it actually is, no, But
Speaker 1: you're right. I keep forgetting because the show itself is
Speaker 1: so just stupid. It's def wit Island, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I forget the things that I even witnessed where I'm
Speaker 1: just like, what's going to happen? Like I didn't remember?
Speaker 1: Um the man splain and I was like on the
Speaker 1: edge of my seat last night about it. It was great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was, I mean, there was some very compelling stuff,
Speaker 1: and it was it felt like it was a little
Speaker 1: bit out of nowhere, and all of a sudden, You're like,
Speaker 1: what is this thing that I'm watching? What was What
Speaker 1: was about the Nico scene that made you say that? Like,
Speaker 1: in particular, are there spoilers? Are we doing? We nervous
Speaker 1: about spoilers? I think everyone else. The hilarious part of
Speaker 1: this is I haven't seen the final episode, but I
Speaker 1: think most people have seen it that have. I just like,
Speaker 1: I just like that rules would probably dictate that you
Speaker 1: couldn't do certain things. And you know, what's her what's
Speaker 1: her name? Tamaris? Like you know that she and Tom
Speaker 1: were clearly not right for each other. They set it
Speaker 1: up really perfectly where they were just like like you
Speaker 1: knew she was into Nico, like earlier in the episode
Speaker 1: and maybe the episode before. She's just like, I'm just
Speaker 1: thinking about Nico a little bit, and you're like, why
Speaker 1: is she even talking about this? And you didn't see
Speaker 1: that coming. I didn't see it. No, I didn't see
Speaker 1: it coming that they were going to do the old
Speaker 1: switch route. But I don't know the rules of the game,
Speaker 1: so I don't, you know, like I didn't know if
Speaker 1: Tom was getting eliminated right then, Like I didn't really
Speaker 1: know what was happening. So when when you offered for Nis, yes,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is incredible because in that moment
Speaker 1: she had to pick between those two guys, and neither
Speaker 1: of they both thought they were safe for at least
Speaker 1: another day. Yes, and then it was obvious she was
Speaker 1: gonna get rid of sweet Tom checking nut ring into
Speaker 1: the ocean, slamming his fist on the table he broke.
Speaker 1: I feel like Tamaris got the idea to bring Nico
Speaker 1: back because Nikki was like, God, I love Nico. He
Speaker 1: was so sweet, and he had already left at that point,
Speaker 1: and I think to the good guy Grotto to like
Speaker 1: film a bunch of sketches, and Nico was just like
Speaker 1: charming and fun and I always liked him in the
Speaker 1: first place. And I didn't really understand why she sent
Speaker 1: him home. And I guess she sent him home because
Speaker 1: he got a little too drunk and he was defending
Speaker 1: enough boy and I never really saw that shakedown, so
Speaker 1: I didn't really get why he was eliminated because he
Speaker 1: just seemed so fun and good for her. And then
Speaker 1: when I was at the Nice Guy Grotto, I was
Speaker 1: just like, man, this guy is like he should be still,
Speaker 1: he should be on like he's the main character, you know.
Speaker 1: And then I think that day I went the next day,
Speaker 1: I went to the Girls, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: Nico Loo pretty good. I was just kind of like,
Speaker 1: I also loved it because I thought that what if
Speaker 1: they're eliminating the guy that was, you know, even the
Speaker 1: first night we watched, because I think we watched the
Speaker 1: first two episodes. I was just like, they barely even
Speaker 1: know these guys, you know, one of them they thought
Speaker 1: was the greatest guy in the world the first day
Speaker 1: they met him, and then and then they immediately turned
Speaker 1: on him and we're like, you're not good and it
Speaker 1: was probably his fault. But then yeah, you're you're getting
Speaker 1: rid of guys. All William Willium logging in for a
Speaker 1: really opposite of air Ape. I want to hear that
Speaker 1: again and again. Um, okay, yes, we'll talk more, Foy,
Speaker 1: We'll talk more the rehearsal and we'll just talk more
Speaker 1: about the differences between men and women. Would we get
Speaker 1: back Chris Convey and on your arena after this, Andrews,
Speaker 1: all right, we're back. Um, so yeah, have you seen um,
Speaker 1: we're talking TV that we've been watching. Have you seen
Speaker 1: the rehearsal with Nathan Fielder on HBO? No, not yet.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to that after all my cult documentaries. Man,
Speaker 1: he is at it again. It is so tonight. When
Speaker 1: does it makes a brief Yesterday, like watching it, the emotions,
Speaker 1: I was like buried my head in his chest, like
Speaker 1: it was more of a roller coaster than our relationship.
Speaker 1: Did they give you the same Andy Kaufman feeling as
Speaker 1: the as his old show where you're just like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is so bad. I feel bad for all the people.
Speaker 1: He's like, Yeah. The other thing is there are except
Speaker 1: for like you know, they're they're getting something out of
Speaker 1: this in some way, and like I don't feel like
Speaker 1: it's he's totally using them outright, Yeah, you know, like
Speaker 1: there are people that are getting things out of it,
Speaker 1: like one guy, and I think episode three really felt
Speaker 1: like he had a cathartic moment that was real And
Speaker 1: what's the premise of the show again the show? Thank
Speaker 1: you for asking because people are probably like Okay, just
Speaker 1: if I'm not watching this, I don't understand it is
Speaker 1: that Nathan Fielder has determined that there's so many things
Speaker 1: in life that you He's a little bit on the
Speaker 1: speck drum. I believe. I think that's probably safe to say.
Speaker 1: And as someone who self diagnosis on the spectrum, I
Speaker 1: can say I can self diagnose other people or other diagnosed. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, can we talk about that at some point?
Speaker 1: I did yesterday, but I would get to some of
Speaker 1: those things because we should go over them now that
Speaker 1: we have Chris Convey here, who you know, the two
Speaker 1: three people who know me best in the whole world
Speaker 1: probably are here. Um. But so the show is about
Speaker 1: he realizes in life, there's so many things that could
Speaker 1: go wrong and you worry about in these big moments,
Speaker 1: and it would be nice if you could rehearse for them.
Speaker 1: And so he asked people about things they want to,
Speaker 1: you know, something that's holding them back in life, something
Speaker 1: they have to do and they're nervous about and they've
Speaker 1: been putting off. And he then creates a world where
Speaker 1: they can rehearse this situation to see if it actually
Speaker 1: is something they want to go through with or if
Speaker 1: it's something that in what is the best way to
Speaker 1: go through with it? And Fielder goes full. I mean
Speaker 1: everything that he does, he just gets all the details.
Speaker 1: He just dives in. It's Veep levels of like the
Speaker 1: way the Veep writes every line must be a joke.
Speaker 1: I feel like this show, I just watch it and
Speaker 1: as a TV producer, don't you feel like they don't?
Speaker 1: They always they squeeze every single bit out of every
Speaker 1: they spun, like everything that could be they do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I feel like the commitment to the bit
Speaker 1: is insane, like it you know, like it's Sasha Baron Cohen.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Fielder is taking things to another
Speaker 1: sort of level for sure. And then the way that
Speaker 1: they're able to pivot because it's real world, like it's
Speaker 1: really they're they're messing with real people in the real world,
Speaker 1: so that stuff is unpredictable. It's not scripted. So if
Speaker 1: this if a woman, if if they like the idea
Speaker 1: of of this woman doing you know, going left instead
Speaker 1: of right, and but she goes right, they've got a
Speaker 1: pivot on the fly, and they're brilliant at turning that
Speaker 1: into an opportunity to do something that's funny, cool or interesting,
Speaker 1: and they're just constantly pivoting. That's such a good point
Speaker 1: because that's why I like making reality TV is because
Speaker 1: there's no script and I don't have to prepare for it,
Speaker 1: and you're making decisions on the fly, and it's like
Speaker 1: stand up in a way like there's you don't I
Speaker 1: don't like preparation, as you know, like I don't preparation
Speaker 1: h either. I just like to suffer. But I don't
Speaker 1: like to go over what's going to happen, and I
Speaker 1: don't like to look back on what's gonna happen. I
Speaker 1: just like to go as we go and figure it out.
Speaker 1: And it's me being more lazy than anything and fearful
Speaker 1: of If I try and I fail, then that means
Speaker 1: I'm not talented. But if I don't prepare and I failed,
Speaker 1: that I can just be like, well it's because I
Speaker 1: didn't prepare. But there is something about that this show
Speaker 1: that I do love that, And you know what, it
Speaker 1: reminds me of how you are often reminding me and
Speaker 1: how you really were in Montreal when we were together.
Speaker 1: Whenever something would go quote unquote wrong, Chris would be like, well, look,
Speaker 1: what what's going to happen now because of this, Like
Speaker 1: look what, look what we got because of this. And
Speaker 1: I was able because you got me in that mindset
Speaker 1: that whole time, because I think you were really doing
Speaker 1: your best my boyfriend, to be like very supportive and
Speaker 1: keep me a good mindset when I was there because
Speaker 1: I was doing this something I was nervous about, which
Speaker 1: is a CrowdWork thing, and so you were so good
Speaker 1: at like getting me to think about every everything is
Speaker 1: an opportunity, even failures that this week, I was really
Speaker 1: able to do that so much um on my own.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's yeah, So you could get there on
Speaker 1: your own because yeah, like there was something where I
Speaker 1: couldn't bring a friend to this thing, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't allowed to bring any family or
Speaker 1: friends to this thing, and I was like, this sucks.
Speaker 1: I have to do this alone. Like usually I get
Speaker 1: to bring someone everyone else because brings one I don't,
Speaker 1: And I was so mad about it. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, if I wouldn't, if I
Speaker 1: would have brought a friend to this thing, I would
Speaker 1: not have become friends with the people I just made
Speaker 1: friends because I didn't have a friend, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that would have never happened if I was if I
Speaker 1: got to do if it went the way I wanted
Speaker 1: it to. You made friends. I have this such a
Speaker 1: Dale Car guys like Wayne dire successful person way of
Speaker 1: looking at life, Like all all these successful people are
Speaker 1: like every failure is an opportunity. You just have to
Speaker 1: see the opportunity in it. It is. But I mean, like, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not like some perfect optimist or anything. But you
Speaker 1: were that weekend though, but we you know, we are.
Speaker 1: Flights were delayed, but we were together, like we were
Speaker 1: either going to be together on the on a plane
Speaker 1: or together in an airport or together at a hotel
Speaker 1: like you know, so it didn't really matter all that much.
Speaker 1: It was a bit of you know, it's those initial
Speaker 1: things are bummer. But then we had such fun wins
Speaker 1: with the airline's employees because they were so great. I
Speaker 1: think Jeffrey and Jenny, maybe Jesse and Jasmine Jazz Jazzy Jazzy,
Speaker 1: that's right, And so we just had like a fun
Speaker 1: win with them. You got pictures with them. They turns
Speaker 1: out they loved They were just talking about you in
Speaker 1: their break room, say what they were It was like
Speaker 1: the much Headberg joke where he is at the airport
Speaker 1: and he's like a guy goes, hey, I saw you
Speaker 1: on TV last night, and he was like, but he
Speaker 1: did not say whether or not he enjoyed my performance,
Speaker 1: and so I just so I turned around and and
Speaker 1: uh so I turned in a circle and I said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I just saw you at the airport gate and you
Speaker 1: were okay. But they did they was they were like,
Speaker 1: she looked at me, but she was like, oh, han,
Speaker 1: Ya'll help you out. And she's looking at my boarding
Speaker 1: pass and typing things and she goes, oh my god.
Speaker 1: We were just talking about you in the break room.
Speaker 1: But they did not say what you Jeffrey. Jeffrey did
Speaker 1: say something about I think that was Jenny. But Jeffrey
Speaker 1: did say that he loved you, and he said his
Speaker 1: wife loved you, and he wanted a picture with Chris
Speaker 1: because he was like, and my wife really loves so
Speaker 1: he he loved you. To watch it and then and
Speaker 1: then we ended up getting to the hotel, which wasn't
Speaker 1: our hotel, and if we would have gone to the
Speaker 1: right hotel, we wouldn't have seen the like the funniest
Speaker 1: person alive Rachel find steign Yes and Nick Braza last,
Speaker 1: when you least is you? When you guys left Canada,
Speaker 1: your flight was you were on a different flight like
Speaker 1: you had another misshap And again, let me ask Mr
Speaker 1: Optimists like, let me ask you to let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, Let me ask you this. Let me let
Speaker 1: me first ask you this. I'm gonna put you on
Speaker 1: the spot, Chris, this is what my dad does. Are
Speaker 1: you ready? Are you sitting down? I'm gonna ask you. God,
Speaker 1: you're giving me your dad energy that I feel like
Speaker 1: you're going to walk into my room and ask me
Speaker 1: if I want pizza and drives me crazy. Um, but
Speaker 1: when you are stuck in a difficult situation and Nikki's
Speaker 1: not around, does your EP showrunner energy go away or
Speaker 1: does it come back? Like are you able to counsel
Speaker 1: yourself in that moment? Are you only able to do
Speaker 1: it when someone needs? I think that's a great question,
Speaker 1: and I can it's it takes on a different form,
Speaker 1: But I Nikki never were talking about this, like, Um,
Speaker 1: there's something about being observed or being around other people,
Speaker 1: like Nikki can work better if she's around other people
Speaker 1: because it's being sort of like witnessed or she's being
Speaker 1: held accountable. And I have a little bit of that too,
Speaker 1: Like I'm probably my best self in those situations with
Speaker 1: people that I care about, because it kind of gives
Speaker 1: you an opportunity to like have the right mentality and
Speaker 1: and think about it from from a different perspective. But
Speaker 1: when it is just you, you're you are a little
Speaker 1: bit maybe just a little bit more annoyed. And then
Speaker 1: eventually you get there where you're like, oh, well this
Speaker 1: is okay, and like I was either going to read
Speaker 1: a book here or read a book there, and you know,
Speaker 1: it just depends if you miss a flight out right,
Speaker 1: like if we missed the show, and but that would
Speaker 1: be its own Like it's like it would be okay.
Speaker 1: I mean when we're talking about things like the death
Speaker 1: of a child and being like, well something good will
Speaker 1: come of it, that's what we get into some tricky areas,
Speaker 1: like all that toxic positivity, and I try to avoid
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. So it's like toxic positivity is
Speaker 1: when people, you know, they come to you and they
Speaker 1: say this this thing that happened made me sad. Like
Speaker 1: you know any time where you have something you know,
Speaker 1: like stuff with your voice or things where if I
Speaker 1: was just like, this will lead to you, you know,
Speaker 1: becoming this amazing whatever, you'd be like, Okay, can I
Speaker 1: just be sad about Like, yes, that's me having to
Speaker 1: affect my deny sadness when really you just like you
Speaker 1: have to grieve. You have to. It's okay to feel
Speaker 1: sorry for yourself sometimes and then just knowing or not
Speaker 1: even knowing, but leaving space for the fact that something
Speaker 1: might happen that you don't know about and that you
Speaker 1: can't predict out of this. But when you were just
Speaker 1: saying this yesterday on the Waking Up app, I get
Speaker 1: these Do you ever do Sam Harris's moments on that
Speaker 1: where he just knows I haven't done. There's a little
Speaker 1: like he'll they'll just get sent you every day. If
Speaker 1: I listen to anymore Sam Harris per day, they're going
Speaker 1: to send me an email being like, hey, you need
Speaker 1: to back off. You were you were considering more Sam Harrison,
Speaker 1: any humans should It's hard to parse this, but that's
Speaker 1: the word. If you start using the word to parse
Speaker 1: a lot of parts, or if you're like, you know
Speaker 1: that sort of thing is sort of siloed in your
Speaker 1: your equanimity. Yeah, word siloed is that where you take
Speaker 1: your feelings and put it in a grain tower. No,
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit like that. But I do
Speaker 1: think that moment because it's the same thing. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll say that the same time. But the moment yesterday
Speaker 1: and then, oh, do let me ask you this. You know,
Speaker 1: the best thing was it happened yesterday. It was the
Speaker 1: moment that I listened or two days ago, and he said,
Speaker 1: a great practice. And I think this is stoicism too.
Speaker 1: When I was getting into that, it was um throughout
Speaker 1: your day when you're doing something like making coffee or
Speaker 1: just walking your dog, or doing anything throughout your day,
Speaker 1: or maybe doing something like writing a song or doing
Speaker 1: a podcast, or maybe things that are mainly alone that
Speaker 1: you're not like performing. So maybe just whatever making your bed.
Speaker 1: Imagine that the person you respect more than anyone in
Speaker 1: the world, may whether it be Oprah or sucking Adele
Speaker 1: or you know God essentially, or you know Lewis Hamilton's
Speaker 1: Max for steppin Um Alonso, Fernando, You're really close on
Speaker 1: most of those. Al Fernando Alonso, Um. Imagine they're watching you,
Speaker 1: imagine your life as and that's why I like, if
Speaker 1: you if you always imagine someone that has a really
Speaker 1: high moral character that you look up to, is like
Speaker 1: they would do the right thing. If you just imagine
Speaker 1: throughout your day and try to just splice that in
Speaker 1: that they are watching you, you will you will do
Speaker 1: what's right. Well, it will hold you accountable in this
Speaker 1: way that when we're just not being watched. And that's
Speaker 1: what I get to when when any of those things
Speaker 1: happen to me alone. Back to question, is it makes
Speaker 1: us a beat to treat your to look at yourself
Speaker 1: as a different as a different entity and treat your
Speaker 1: and what would you tell if you were freaking out
Speaker 1: about flight stuff? Like what would I say to you?
Speaker 1: And if I'm sitting there being like, oh man, this
Speaker 1: this is terrible, then you start to treat yourself like
Speaker 1: a person that you really care about that you want
Speaker 1: to soothe. Yes, that's why I think you know in
Speaker 1: twelve step stuff so much about like recovering from things
Speaker 1: is like you gotta give it away too, and you
Speaker 1: gotta help other people and like whenever, um, it's so
Speaker 1: hard to do when I'm like really depressed, but like
Speaker 1: just going and picking up litter or like holding a
Speaker 1: door for someone, um, texting my mom to be like,
Speaker 1: how are you just reaching out and doing something that
Speaker 1: isn't about my thing right now? And like helping someone
Speaker 1: else helps you help yourself in some weird roundabout way.
Speaker 1: I met my best when I help myself. But Anya,
Speaker 1: what about you? And Matt? Like when you who is
Speaker 1: this is a person that tends to pick the other
Speaker 1: person up a little bit more, or or somebody that
Speaker 1: is like gets really down on something that just happened
Speaker 1: or a mistake that they made, and the other person
Speaker 1: has to like, do you guys handle it? Um, g Q.
Speaker 1: He's great at picking me up, by the way, g
Speaker 1: A on yours to um when I'm down. He's amazing.
Speaker 1: He's so level headed, he's like wise, he sounds like
Speaker 1: some more just meditated for an hour. He's like so
Speaker 1: even killed. But when stuff happens to him, I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: and I'm not allowed to say anything because if I
Speaker 1: go into his if I were to tell him the
Speaker 1: stuff he tells me, he flips out. He'll be like,
Speaker 1: how can you say? You know? I cannot be silver
Speaker 1: lining girl? And that's who I am at my core
Speaker 1: is silver lining girl. And I need to be careful
Speaker 1: of that so that I don't do the thing you
Speaker 1: were just talking about about skipping a step of like
Speaker 1: because feeling your feelings when I'm going through depression or
Speaker 1: I'm having one of these days where it's like I
Speaker 1: hate everything, I hate the way I look, I hate
Speaker 1: my career. Everyone, it's me. I'm not telling like, having
Speaker 1: those really bad days that are about like two days
Speaker 1: before my period. I will oftentimes reach out to both
Speaker 1: all three of you actually and like the I and
Speaker 1: a lot of times I remember, I know that each
Speaker 1: of you have been like, how can what do you
Speaker 1: want to hear right now? Like what what is it
Speaker 1: that's going to? What do you want right now? And
Speaker 1: it's really tricky because I remember when I was in
Speaker 1: um the Hampton's, my friend um where life is really hard,
Speaker 1: where life like I got really depressed. In the Hampton's,
Speaker 1: I was just around two. I was having body issues.
Speaker 1: I was around too many women whose bodies I was
Speaker 1: jealous of, and I was, you know, I was in
Speaker 1: this beautiful house that I was like, I could never
Speaker 1: decorate a house. I was doing a lot of comparing
Speaker 1: and despairing, and I, you know, it just syncd up
Speaker 1: with my cycle. It synked up with some personal things
Speaker 1: that I was going through that week that may or
Speaker 1: may not have to do with the person on my left.
Speaker 1: And you know this porkup stuff porcupine or Luigi, and
Speaker 1: and I was just a really bad day, and I
Speaker 1: was saying really dark, like fucked up things to my
Speaker 1: roommate who I was rooming with, Kat from Colorado. Cat
Speaker 1: is a social worker like clinical therapist, and I was
Speaker 1: saying things trying to get her to like help me,
Speaker 1: you know, like I was saying, like, um, I just
Speaker 1: I'll probably have to just kill myself one day, Like
Speaker 1: I say these really fucking dark things of like I
Speaker 1: don't even know like what I want to just quit life,
Speaker 1: like just saying dark things to just try to get
Speaker 1: her to like, I don't know what I'm I don't
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know what I'm looking for in that moment.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm not talented. All this person is
Speaker 1: better than me at this. I watched f Boy last night.
Speaker 1: I look disgusting that one scene I looked I was
Speaker 1: not even funny. This other person is funnier than me.
Speaker 1: And they're not even a fucking comedian and I was
Speaker 1: just just shooting and she wasn't saying anything. She was
Speaker 1: just like yeah, and it was just and I was
Speaker 1: just like fucking therapist, like exactly, and I was just
Speaker 1: like wanting to shake her. And then later on she
Speaker 1: I was kind of venting again in the car with
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and I was almost like maybe
Speaker 1: trying to um communicate to her, like you're my roommate
Speaker 1: and when I get bitten closed doors, like I can't
Speaker 1: say this to the group, but I'm struggling and I
Speaker 1: need help. So I was kind of like trying to
Speaker 1: communicate that, like I'm I'm in front of more people,
Speaker 1: and she was like, I just want you to know
Speaker 1: that when I don't say she took me side. She
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what to say to you,
Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to like I feel like you
Speaker 1: just need to like vent it. And I thought that's
Speaker 1: what you needed. And I said, honestly, Catherine, I don't
Speaker 1: need that. I need you to say the opposite of
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I need you to be like you're
Speaker 1: thinking is your disease right now? Like you have the
Speaker 1: flu of the mind, Like you're thinking that you're gonna
Speaker 1: have the flu forever. But this is temporary. These thoughts
Speaker 1: are distorted. You are unlike your brain is on drugs
Speaker 1: right now, pretty much like you are. This is a
Speaker 1: temporary state that there's a storm right now in your
Speaker 1: head and they're going to be clear sized ahead and
Speaker 1: don't get stuck in this like I And she was like, okay, thanks,
Speaker 1: I needed to hear what I need needed to tell
Speaker 1: you on you feels the same. I know you do too,
Speaker 1: of like what do I say to this girl? No,
Speaker 1: I don't feel that way. We should read some of
Speaker 1: those those texts because all of those things you brought
Speaker 1: up to Catherine, you brought up to me as well,
Speaker 1: and we went through. I mean, I think I go through,
Speaker 1: line by line all the things you always talk about.
Speaker 1: I remember the celebrity who you thought was really funny.
Speaker 1: Oh it's she's not a comic. Okay, Well yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel burdensome in those moments because I am in such
Speaker 1: a state that is not to be reasoned with. When
Speaker 1: I'm going through that that I feel like if I'm
Speaker 1: always like thinking about how I'm I'm I'm already feeling sad,
Speaker 1: and then I'm feeling sad that I'm putting the people
Speaker 1: I love in this position of like a no win situation.
Speaker 1: Like anything you say like it does your stuff does
Speaker 1: get in because eventually I like calm down and it
Speaker 1: seeps in and I can go back to the text
Speaker 1: and I can remember what you said. But I do
Speaker 1: think that I am sometimes I don't know what I
Speaker 1: need right, But for me, it's like I'm it's pretty
Speaker 1: clear that you need somebody to listen at times, and
Speaker 1: sometimes to listen, and then you know, some of the
Speaker 1: things you come up with are so wild and not true.
Speaker 1: You know, like it would be one thing if it
Speaker 1: if it was just a feeling that you had. And
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to say, like, well you can't
Speaker 1: feel sad, because I wouldn't do that. But if you
Speaker 1: say like this person is so much funnier than me,
Speaker 1: that person works so much harder than me, this person
Speaker 1: has so much more talent, those are pretty easy to
Speaker 1: refute or to say like, well, she's amazing at this,
Speaker 1: and that's so different from what you do. And there's
Speaker 1: room for so many people to be amazing at what
Speaker 1: they do and you're up there right No, And and
Speaker 1: I always tell you this too. Like the reason I
Speaker 1: go to you three is because I respect your opinions
Speaker 1: about things like there's I can't go to my mom
Speaker 1: or like there's there's a lot of people that I'm
Speaker 1: friends with that I don't really respect their opinions of
Speaker 1: like the things they watch and enjoy, and like the
Speaker 1: level of entertainment that they the bar for their level
Speaker 1: of entertainment. And on you, we'll we'll forget the fact
Speaker 1: that you were watching some ship this week, but like
Speaker 1: you guys have good you guys are artists, and you
Speaker 1: have good taste in things. One of my favorite things
Speaker 1: because Nikki will go through some sort of a crisis
Speaker 1: because she's exposed to so much, you know, being on
Speaker 1: TV and all these things that there's there's, there's you know,
Speaker 1: semi regular crisis. Sees to the fires to put out
Speaker 1: and on you. What I also I always love is
Speaker 1: when when Nicki and I are talking about those things
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I'm trying to be there for
Speaker 1: her and listen and tell her how I feel about
Speaker 1: those things, is she'll throw in something that you said
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, I has got some great advice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd love to know what that is because I feel
Speaker 1: like I know, I am, I relate to this idea
Speaker 1: of what is the right thing to say, and I've
Speaker 1: learned it is a great thing to say sometimes to
Speaker 1: certain people, what would you like, do you want feedback
Speaker 1: or do you want a sounding board? And then a
Speaker 1: lot of times people do just need a sound any board,
Speaker 1: So a lot of people don't. There's sometimes when people
Speaker 1: say what do you need? And I'm just like, for me,
Speaker 1: I think I feel like I'm asking someone to run
Speaker 1: a marathon next to me sometimes and even though you
Speaker 1: do it, and I feel like a burden, and I
Speaker 1: feel like, even though you're good at it, and obviously
Speaker 1: you're good at you wouldn't be in my life, Like
Speaker 1: I can't keep people around who can't handle my depression
Speaker 1: and like help me through it. And you know that,
Speaker 1: I feel like you're the best at that. And I've
Speaker 1: told you a million times like how much you get
Speaker 1: me out of those things? And right on this podcast
Speaker 1: of what you said earlier made me think that you
Speaker 1: don't think what Anya and I are doing is like
Speaker 1: necessarily effective. No, that's not what I'm saying that or
Speaker 1: that we're like implying that that you know, maybe we
Speaker 1: don't know what to do in those situations. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm saying it's it's not that you don't know
Speaker 1: what to do. You figure out what to do. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that that's how it came across. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is and Anya, do you do you think that I
Speaker 1: was saying that or do I was trying to say
Speaker 1: it would be hard to be to listen to me
Speaker 1: sometimes and come up with what to say and like that.
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's just it would be hard to
Speaker 1: figure out what to say. And I'm not sometimes it
Speaker 1: is hard for me, Yes, but I would say that
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I think with Nikki, especially lately, you know,
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, you need to get
Speaker 1: it out. You need and and if I were to
Speaker 1: refute every point, I'd be so busy, like trying to
Speaker 1: focus on each and so often you just need to
Speaker 1: like let loose and erupt all the stuff and then
Speaker 1: I'll try to reflect back what I'm hearing is you
Speaker 1: sound really scared, or you sound really alone talk about
Speaker 1: that or sounds sounds awful, or you you know, you
Speaker 1: sound angry or whatever it is, just to let you
Speaker 1: get it out. It's like thirty seven things that you
Speaker 1: and then I will try to decore you're threatened, and
Speaker 1: then I'll try to like argue you, Like if I
Speaker 1: start sparring with you, I'm like, oh, I'm signing up
Speaker 1: for an hour and a half of a battle. There's
Speaker 1: no point in battling. That's what. That's not true? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I will lose your fight because part of your
Speaker 1: brain is so it's like intent on winning and there's
Speaker 1: no reasoning with it. And I'm not saying it's right,
Speaker 1: but your brain will think no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I've got the perfect argument, and I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 1: arguing with that person. That person is out of their
Speaker 1: mind right now. I'm not happy. So we'll just be
Speaker 1: like that sucks, dude to want to, like, you know,
Speaker 1: to be jealous of this person right now? What do
Speaker 1: you need? What do you need? And then she'll write
Speaker 1: like seventeen more things about other stuff, and then I'll
Speaker 1: be like, again, what do you need? You know, and
Speaker 1: we don't even need to get around to it. But
Speaker 1: sometimes you'll be like, oh my god, I feel so
Speaker 1: much better. I love you my sisters here, I gotta
Speaker 1: go love you buy, Yeah, everything's fine. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's like that never never happened
Speaker 1: for Nikki, but it did happen for us. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's why it's tough. Like that's why it's tough.
Speaker 1: It's like I would resent a person that constantly did
Speaker 1: that to me, And like, but I what I am
Speaker 1: learning from reading this fucking book about autistic women, and
Speaker 1: like I do overcome things and change my mind about
Speaker 1: things on a fucking dime. Like it's not because it
Speaker 1: wasn't how I was actually feeling in that moment, and
Speaker 1: I was just trying to get attention. And now I
Speaker 1: got my attention, and I'm good. I feel better, and
Speaker 1: so now I'm ready to it's the Glazer exit. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to just let's go into the next thing. But
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you're better at this on you because you've
Speaker 1: you know, lived with Nikki and had it longer. But
Speaker 1: when Nikki moves on from like goes from you know,
Speaker 1: a hundred miles an hour of sad, despair, angry, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, and then and then five seconds later she's
Speaker 1: totally okay. But you were writing that emotion with her
Speaker 1: does that has that ever kind of affected you where
Speaker 1: you're like, whoa, I'm a part of this now, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm talking abou out. That wasn't really what you
Speaker 1: were saying earlier, right, But it's like I guess I
Speaker 1: was just saying. It's just not that it's hard to
Speaker 1: come up with what to say, it's just hard to
Speaker 1: come up with like what the funk was that? What
Speaker 1: is this? What is any? Right? Yeah? Yeah, that exists?
Speaker 1: Like what you know now that you mentioned it? Like,
Speaker 1: what is this moment that you have? It's something that
Speaker 1: I'm that is sort of new to our relationship, this
Speaker 1: like big blow up moment and then moments later like
Speaker 1: everything's totally fine. Yeah, it's I've had that moment so
Speaker 1: often with her, Chris and I and I totally get it.
Speaker 1: And there have been times where I have been like
Speaker 1: emotionally exhausted and I'm like I'm so in it with her.
Speaker 1: I'm running this marathon, and then it's like then it's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, my parents just pulled up. I have
Speaker 1: to go by, and that's literally happened, and I'm like like, wait,
Speaker 1: I'm not done yet, and I'm later and she had
Speaker 1: the best time ever with her family and everything's fine, Yes,
Speaker 1: But then what I've learned is like it's on me
Speaker 1: to manage my level of a intensity. Am I ready
Speaker 1: for a marathon today? Most of the time, no, and
Speaker 1: be am I really like, I don't think she really
Speaker 1: needs someone to run a me at them with her.
Speaker 1: She just needs a witness. So that's what I'm doing now,
Speaker 1: and then I can conserve my energy so that when
Speaker 1: she does, when it's like, oh, Laurence, here I gotta
Speaker 1: go by, then it's like okay, great, I love you
Speaker 1: buy and then I'm my energy is not depleted. I've
Speaker 1: learned the same thing, you know, like all the little
Speaker 1: panics and stuff happening in Montreal. You know, some in
Speaker 1: the past, those would I would be giving parts of
Speaker 1: myself to Nikki to rebuild her happiness and joy. And
Speaker 1: I've learned that I can't give those things. You know
Speaker 1: I can, but I can. I can be there for
Speaker 1: her in a different way, but I can't get on
Speaker 1: the ride with her. I have to be somebody has
Speaker 1: to stay with a little fun game that Noah has
Speaker 1: whipped up for us. Thank you guys for getting through
Speaker 1: that therapy session with me. That actually felt really good
Speaker 1: to hear you both talk about what it's like to
Speaker 1: be an intimate of friend of you know, partner of
Speaker 1: mine in this world. Uh, thank you for thank you
Speaker 1: for doing that. And uh and I feel a little
Speaker 1: bit narcissistic to be like talk about what it's like
Speaker 1: to deal with how hard it is to be, but
Speaker 1: it was helpful for me to be a better partner
Speaker 1: and friend to both of you as well, because I
Speaker 1: don't want to be burdensome and I don't want you
Speaker 1: guys want running marathons every day. I mean, Chris, you could,
Speaker 1: you know, shape it up a little bit, but actually
Speaker 1: he's an amazing shape And I really wanted to stop
Speaker 1: because he keeps getting even more hard buddied every time
Speaker 1: we don't see ech other for like a week and
Speaker 1: then the next time we touched him, I'm like, who,
Speaker 1: when are you calcifying? What is happening to You're turning
Speaker 1: into groot, your your ego tree, your arms are trees
Speaker 1: and um, and it's exciting. And there's a new guy
Speaker 1: every week that shows we'll be right back with the
Speaker 1: same guy and Anya and me and I know it right, alright,
Speaker 1: We're back. Um, all right, So I'm here with Anya
Speaker 1: and Chris, my boyfriend, and we're going to play a
Speaker 1: game of never Have I Ever? Just a class game
Speaker 1: of never have I Ever? So no one, because never
Speaker 1: have I evers? And if you have done it, you're
Speaker 1: gonna tell us the story of what it is, What's
Speaker 1: what's what's going on in your head? Right now? I
Speaker 1: think I've done this today. I think I've done this
Speaker 1: exact thing today. Stories. Yeah, I think so what. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I've already ruined the premise of this late this game
Speaker 1: with your show today. I was actually going I almost
Speaker 1: emailed you know, it would be like hey, I want
Speaker 1: to play this never have I Ever? Game? And I
Speaker 1: was going to host it, and then I forgot to
Speaker 1: get it from Courtney. And if you remember the ones
Speaker 1: from your show and you want to pepper them in,
Speaker 1: we can do that as well. Hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. Yesterday I was texting with Nikki
Speaker 1: and she said, you're so excited you have all these
Speaker 1: ideas and games and that you would text me. So
Speaker 1: then I started thinking about like fun games that we
Speaker 1: could play, especially like icebreaker games because I know you,
Speaker 1: but I don't know you that well, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, like, never have I ever came to
Speaker 1: my mind. I was like, that would be a great
Speaker 1: radio show game. And then you played at this morning.
Speaker 1: I was this is insane, you guys, look at this,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I was a psychic game. Psychic game.
Speaker 1: Look at us now? Yeh know, Well, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: in the sort of morrow, so maybe we can do
Speaker 1: some of those ideas that you were throwing up. It
Speaker 1: was so fun. I felt like you weren't that into
Speaker 1: you kidding me? I love them. Maybe maybe it's because
Speaker 1: we didn't get to talk to it, because you can't
Speaker 1: really talk or talk about him. Yeah, I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I throwout ideas and I was like, these aren't that
Speaker 1: good them? I was driving and texting you when I
Speaker 1: was responding, but I freaking loved them. And I even
Speaker 1: told No about them enthusiastically, being like, Chris is some
Speaker 1: great I mean, didn't I say that to you know? Uh? Yes,
Speaker 1: I've literally forgotten what they are now to any names
Speaker 1: of them, no, I'm just kidding. Wait you'll find out
Speaker 1: tomorrow because I don't know them at the top of
Speaker 1: my head. But there was both of them were great,
Speaker 1: they were already solidly for him. Maybe we'll try them,
Speaker 1: but I Noah's game is going to be even better. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So the rules of the game. I think everyone should
Speaker 1: have like a sound that they make to like chime
Speaker 1: in when they have done it, so that they get
Speaker 1: to tell the story first. What do you think about that? Okay?
Speaker 1: Like it. I'll pop out my visil line an you
Speaker 1: will do? That is coming from her mouth? Everyone, No, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's just kidding. I can't believe this too. I forgot.
Speaker 1: I was going to bring my sounders in for it
Speaker 1: as well. Mine is a monster truck. I'll bring it
Speaker 1: in tomorrow. Okay. So the rules of the game is
Speaker 1: I read something, and then if you have done it,
Speaker 1: you make your sound, your custom sound, and then you
Speaker 1: tell a story about the time that you did very easy.
Speaker 1: And then if you've never done it, you just don't
Speaker 1: make a sound and we move on to the next question.
Speaker 1: So the first one, never have I ever dropped acid? Okay?
Speaker 1: Great for all prude, never ground, I said I'm not
Speaker 1: doing this drug dealer, So I did do that? Threw
Speaker 1: it on the ground. Yeah, so I have I'm at here.
Speaker 1: Never have I ever accepted a drink from a stranger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh excep. I mean it's easier for a guy to
Speaker 1: say yes. But yeah, of course everybody here has there's
Speaker 1: no way that you haven't that everybody here hasn't. Have
Speaker 1: you been to a wedding and they go, would you
Speaker 1: like a you know this? Do you remember a specific moment?
Speaker 1: I was doing the Turkey trot um and there were
Speaker 1: bowl on the sides of the road and had a
Speaker 1: little Dixie cups of water and I fucking accepted all
Speaker 1: of it. I don't have a good one. I've got
Speaker 1: I don't have a good story. But also when I
Speaker 1: was at a wedding with Chris Um, they had these
Speaker 1: little Austin's Wedding these a little adorable like um minty
Speaker 1: chocolate like cocoa drinks with little like you know, barber
Speaker 1: strat pole straws, and I sucked it down in an
Speaker 1: alcohol and it was the first time I had drank
Speaker 1: alcohol and maybe like at that point six years and
Speaker 1: it coursed through my veins and I was just like
Speaker 1: and I had already swallowed and I was just like, Nikki,
Speaker 1: just enjoy this because like, you can't stop it, don't
Speaker 1: fight it. Don't hurt yourself about it. Don't be mad
Speaker 1: at yourself. You didn't mean to. It doesn't count, and
Speaker 1: just have it and just have five more and then
Speaker 1: everything will be fine. I had an oyster shooter in Canada,
Speaker 1: not knowing it was soaked in vodka, and I was
Speaker 1: feeling incredible. It wasn't I ordered it, so it's not
Speaker 1: the same thing, but it's an ancillary tale and true.
Speaker 1: And I read it on the menu it said oyster shooter, horseradish,
Speaker 1: clamato oyster. It was at a fancy restaurant that just
Speaker 1: would list like fennel, basil, artichoke, you know like that. No,
Speaker 1: no vodka infused oyster, no mention of it, and I
Speaker 1: had the most incredible time at dinner. I felt warm,
Speaker 1: I felt sexual, I was giggling and then I'm like,
Speaker 1: something is in there's vodka in my veins, like I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, And then my boyfriend and his mom were like, no,
Speaker 1: there's not relaxed and I thought about it for an
Speaker 1: hour and then upon leaving I asked the host of SO,
Speaker 1: I'm like, is there vodka and the oyster shooter. She's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's just um oh, yeah, the oyster is marinated in vodka.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's what I felt. I didn't and
Speaker 1: oysters are vodka, and like, oysters are not good people
Speaker 1: that eat them like you're putting. There's just the fact
Speaker 1: that you couldn't. You didn't. And anything you have to
Speaker 1: shoot is not taste good, by the way, that's why
Speaker 1: you're shooting it. So why are we even consuming things
Speaker 1: that don't taste good? Because it's people are taking shots.
Speaker 1: They aren't doing it because it tastes Why oysters they
Speaker 1: don't get you funked up unless they're soaked in vodka. Like,
Speaker 1: what is the appeal of something that you shoot that
Speaker 1: doesn't get you funked up? I never understood why you
Speaker 1: would shoot food like you I shoot it. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it just sounded like an interesting thing. And I hadn't
Speaker 1: had an oyster in a while, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like it. It's a fancy restaurant,
Speaker 1: you know, delicacy, and it was amazing. I definitely thought
Speaker 1: about that. You said you were sitting there and you
Speaker 1: felt warm, you felt sexual, you felt hot, happy, that
Speaker 1: why what this is the same thing? When I first
Speaker 1: had a drink of alcohol. When I was in high
Speaker 1: school and I felt all those feelings, I was like,
Speaker 1: why doesn't everyone do this all? Why? It's what I'll
Speaker 1: talk to when it does give you those feelings, Like
Speaker 1: you just listed things that none of those things are bad?
Speaker 1: Why would everyone not do that? Do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I mean, because it ultimately ruined your life.
Speaker 1: But the first, if you think you can control it,
Speaker 1: and you think that you can just have that feeling,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you chase that forever another? That's what most
Speaker 1: people are doing. I mean most most people we all
Speaker 1: know drink regularly, whether they have a problem or don't, Yes,
Speaker 1: because they like that warm whatever that is. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: never had try some clamato with it, I'm telling you
Speaker 1: all right, next would do ever? Whatever? No? Never have
Speaker 1: I ever been a maid of honor or a best man?
Speaker 1: All right? Chris? And yeah for my brother, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, but that's probably it. I was a
Speaker 1: maid of honor for my friend who got had to
Speaker 1: get married young. She was pregnant, I think, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know she does. I don't remember if she was pregnant.
Speaker 1: If it was like a shotgun wedding, I think it
Speaker 1: was I think she was. You love shooting things. I
Speaker 1: didn't know a maid of honor had any responsive Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty much. That was during my drinking days. But I
Speaker 1: remember like at the wedding when all her I flew out,
Speaker 1: or she flew me out. I was such an irresponsible friend.
Speaker 1: Um and I got there and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: they have a limo and she had her Manny petty done,
Speaker 1: and all these friends were there and everyone was giving
Speaker 1: her gifts, and it occurred to me, I'm the maid
Speaker 1: of honor. I'm supposed I should have gotten like organized
Speaker 1: a shower and given her a gift, like she needs
Speaker 1: to ask you to do that. No, no, I did.
Speaker 1: No one was born knowing what a maid of honor
Speaker 1: should do. You got to be told all that wedding
Speaker 1: etiqute stuff to me is exhausting. I don't want to
Speaker 1: learn it. I don't want to think about it. I
Speaker 1: just knew I had to like do Tim's bachelor party
Speaker 1: and stuff. I did some fun stuff, but you're just
Speaker 1: it's all feels so exhausting, especially what made like the
Speaker 1: maid of honor has to do that stuff. Seems I was,
Speaker 1: you know, so grateful when Cat, my best friend from Colorado,
Speaker 1: the one that was that didn't help me, um in
Speaker 1: my room, and um, I was so happy when I
Speaker 1: was not her maid of honor when she got married
Speaker 1: because I didn't want those I didn't want those ones
Speaker 1: abilities either. And my sister got married just like Shotgun
Speaker 1: because and I was, you know, out of town, and
Speaker 1: so they were like, just don't worry about like, we're
Speaker 1: just doing it in the park real quick. And then
Speaker 1: they never had that. They just had a reception party.
Speaker 1: So I never had to do that for her, like
Speaker 1: I would gladly do it for any of you. But um,
Speaker 1: I also know that you guys would not require like
Speaker 1: the kind of maid of honor stuff that most women do. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want that. I don't think I want that
Speaker 1: at all. Would you actually do it for us? If
Speaker 1: I was like, Nikki, will you be my maid of honor?
Speaker 1: Because you're a different I think when you lie, her
Speaker 1: voice goes up because she's like talking like this. But
Speaker 1: I would know it was an excitement. I would totally
Speaker 1: do it. I would be so honored. But but you
Speaker 1: know me and be asking you no, you're no, you're
Speaker 1: not because my Maia is going to be it you
Speaker 1: have a sister. You know, that's why you if you
Speaker 1: want to be a maid of honor, don't be friends
Speaker 1: with girls with sisters, because you're not gonna. You're not gonna, Billy,
Speaker 1: I don't even know that you're supposed to ask your sister.
Speaker 1: Come on, girl, I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: And also, China would be much more. She's much would
Speaker 1: be so hurt that you didn't ask her over I'm
Speaker 1: already such more important than China. Both these fishes are engaged.
Speaker 1: And do you even who's your maid of honor? Noah,
Speaker 1: do you know? I don't think I want to put
Speaker 1: that responsibility on anybody. It's already like enough trying to
Speaker 1: even start creating a wedding. God, what is with us?
Speaker 1: We have too much guilt, Like we should be enjoying
Speaker 1: this time. You just don't want to. You don't want
Speaker 1: to all the attention on you. You feel like it's indulgent,
Speaker 1: you feel like and you're older, you're not in your twenties,
Speaker 1: like you already know what like happiness is, You know
Speaker 1: what things are, what is fulfilling. You're not getting married
Speaker 1: so you can have a little party and a day
Speaker 1: where you're the princess. You're getting married, so you can
Speaker 1: have a Yeah, you're not doing it because you want attention,
Speaker 1: which a lot of money. And I do stand by
Speaker 1: my strong opinion if I ever come back on your show,
Speaker 1: which on a strong Opinion Day, because they do a
Speaker 1: segment on strong opinions, my strong opinion that I've said
Speaker 1: on the show, I am not going to your wedding,
Speaker 1: and I will not if I do go to your wedding,
Speaker 1: just secretly know that I don't believe you're gonna make
Speaker 1: it unless you should not be getting married. I don't
Speaker 1: believe in marriages, but you if if they're in their twenties.
Speaker 1: First of all, twenties, no, only you're the only caveat
Speaker 1: that you can get married in your twenties, and I
Speaker 1: will believe you that you will last if you've been
Speaker 1: together at least four years. You need four years. You
Speaker 1: need to have seen at least one president's term together.
Speaker 1: And when you're Fast in the Furious movie, because if
Speaker 1: you don't see Ida I on The Fast and the Furious,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna see I on anything else. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: so that's my strong opinion is that I don't believe
Speaker 1: your marriage will last secretly and I will be like, congratulations,
Speaker 1: but I know you're not going to make it. If
Speaker 1: you're in your twenties and you get married you haven't
Speaker 1: been together for more than four years. That seemed fair
Speaker 1: my strong opinion. Next Monday, if you're if you're on
Speaker 1: an escalator and and the escalator is over, get out
Speaker 1: of the way. Get out of the get out of
Speaker 1: the way. It's time to check you to check your passport.
Speaker 1: It's not a time for you to turn to your
Speaker 1: husband and say, like, oh, which gate are we at? Like,
Speaker 1: get out of the way first, figure it out later.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you get out of the fucking way.
Speaker 1: Pull off the stop and wherever you are on the
Speaker 1: side screen of get to just stop when you want
Speaker 1: to stop. Unless you're getting news that your parents are
Speaker 1: like just died or something like, that's when you can
Speaker 1: stop in terms like and then. But otherwise, get the
Speaker 1: funk out of the web. Get out of the way.
Speaker 1: If you if you want to look at your phone
Speaker 1: and you're on the sidewalk and you think you need
Speaker 1: to stop the side to step into traffic. I don't
Speaker 1: want if you think you could just stop anywhere you idiots, idiots.
Speaker 1: People have this thing. I think it's a psychological thing.
Speaker 1: When you're getting off an airplane and we're all rushing
Speaker 1: to get off, we're dying to get off. We've been
Speaker 1: on the tarmac for twenty five minutes. The second they
Speaker 1: get out into the airport, they just stop. They they
Speaker 1: forget that we're all rushing. It's the weirdest phenomenon. What
Speaker 1: is that so true? You're absolutely right, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: you try to go to the left of a guy
Speaker 1: and then he's veering left a little and you try
Speaker 1: to It is maddening. Get out of the And if
Speaker 1: you get past because you're walking slow, and I don't,
Speaker 1: don't past you because I'm annoyed that you're working slow
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm in a bigger rush. Don't be a
Speaker 1: little twerp about it and be like if I don't
Speaker 1: touch you, and I don't slam into you, or just
Speaker 1: let me pass without taking it at such an affront
Speaker 1: that that means you're slow and lazy, which is all
Speaker 1: you having issues with yourself. That's your insecurity. I want
Speaker 1: to walk fast. I'm a fast walker, and I often
Speaker 1: won't pass someone because I'm so scared they're gonna be like, Okay, ma'am,
Speaker 1: I will just linger behind someone because I'm scared they're
Speaker 1: gonna be mad at me because I make them feel
Speaker 1: slow when when people are walking like five abreast at
Speaker 1: the airport into it sounds like a total recall. But
Speaker 1: I couldn't come up with the boy movie. I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say, boy movie, do you have a strong
Speaker 1: opinion on anything? Five abreast? What are you going to say?
Speaker 1: Forget about it. I just want to share a story
Speaker 1: about being at the time of an escalator and there
Speaker 1: were these tiny little people there, these tiny little Jewish
Speaker 1: people with like seven plastic bags, just at the top
Speaker 1: of the escalator at JFK, and I'm like, get out
Speaker 1: of the way, you little tiny Jewish people. And then
Speaker 1: I turn around and it's fucking lou Read and has
Speaker 1: longtime partner Lori Davidson. Is that her name, Laurie? Why
Speaker 1: am I not remembering your name? But the Chosen people
Speaker 1: can they can go wherever they choose. You get to choose,
Speaker 1: like I guess they really get to I don't have
Speaker 1: any strong opinions yet. Final thought, Um, let's do a
Speaker 1: couple more. Okay, I've never had divers. Never have I
Speaker 1: ever played strip poker or any game that involves taking
Speaker 1: your clothes off? No, why I don't. I know that
Speaker 1: I have. I know that I have. I just can't
Speaker 1: think of the like the scenarios. But I've definitely, definitely
Speaker 1: I probably have wanted to before, but I didn't because
Speaker 1: I had on like a gross pair of underweg It
Speaker 1: also sounds like something you and your girlfriends would do together,
Speaker 1: as like just something funny. We were so naked in
Speaker 1: the Hamptons because breastfeeding was going on. I just felt
Speaker 1: like it's time for tits out. It was just so free.
Speaker 1: I really think there's something about being naked no that
Speaker 1: is not sexual, that is like so empowering in the
Speaker 1: dining room for some reason, I remember like changing my
Speaker 1: tank top and being like, why would I leave the
Speaker 1: dining room. I'm just changing my tank here and these
Speaker 1: are all women and my nipples are not sexual here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great. Did you guys thoroughly explore the Hamptons? You
Speaker 1: already all the podcast in the Hamptons with all the
Speaker 1: girls that was total for our labia, Then yes, I Hamptons.
Speaker 1: Did you guys get all your Hampton stories? Out, like
Speaker 1: on the podcast, did you get to tell your favorite
Speaker 1: thing out? But um, not there anything you wanted to know? Chris, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I'm just asking because like I like hearing I
Speaker 1: like hearing Nikki's like stories when she goes and does anything.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't know. You guys brought the
Speaker 1: handles up and I was like, oh did I don't
Speaker 1: know if they didn't talk about the boat. The boat
Speaker 1: right where all I got complete. I did not want
Speaker 1: to go on this. There's this amazing thing that, um
Speaker 1: could It was like almost like a personal jet ski
Speaker 1: that you can go underwater and you just hold onto
Speaker 1: it and it goes so fast and you can go.
Speaker 1: You can You're just like a dolphin. You're like, I'll
Speaker 1: like you're on the dolphin's back. You know, like what
Speaker 1: you should never do, never go swimming with dolphins. Please
Speaker 1: don't support that ever, ever ever. But so get one
Speaker 1: of these things. But I couldn't go on it because
Speaker 1: I forgot to swim suit. Because I didn't go. I
Speaker 1: was supposed to go whatever I didn't have, so I
Speaker 1: was wearing bottoms that were just too big for me,
Speaker 1: so they were slipping off every time I went on
Speaker 1: this thing and the guy that was our boat captain.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be naked in front of a guy,
Speaker 1: like even though there was nothing like. I was not
Speaker 1: trying to be like like, oh, he's gonna like want
Speaker 1: me if he sees my ask Like I just didn't
Speaker 1: want a boy to see me naked. But no one
Speaker 1: else seemed to care. Everyone was getting fucking naked in
Speaker 1: front of this guy, and I was like, I cannot.
Speaker 1: We are not married yet, And so I didn't get
Speaker 1: to go on the thing as the sweet I want
Speaker 1: to do, but Halla didn't. Halla don't occur. She was
Speaker 1: the trailblazer Cat. Blazer Cat is maybe, in my experience
Speaker 1: with my friends, one of my friends that has is
Speaker 1: the most insecure about her body historically that I've known
Speaker 1: of my friends, like up there with me in terms
Speaker 1: of like having people judge it or whatever. And this
Speaker 1: bitch let me her swimsuit and she also, I think,
Speaker 1: just didn't wear swimsuit that day because she didn't know
Speaker 1: we were going to go swimming, and she was like,
Speaker 1: can I just go topless? And I was like really,
Speaker 1: and she she posed. I was so proud of her.
Speaker 1: I was so inad of this guy. I mean, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been a big deal. And she had not
Speaker 1: even got naked in front of us girls like that yet,
Speaker 1: We had not seen her tits yet. And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden she is fully topless in front of
Speaker 1: the boat captain and I was just like, who is
Speaker 1: my friend? And why isn't she giving me advice? So cool? God,
Speaker 1: I love you so much, but I was so proud
Speaker 1: of her. But Halla got on this thing, and I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever left so hard as like in
Speaker 1: like the basketball weeks, which means because I laugh a lot.
Speaker 1: That was the hardest I've laughed probably on that trip.
Speaker 1: Was Halla um just going buck wild buck naked on
Speaker 1: that Na could shoot out of the water. She literally
Speaker 1: shot out of the water. You could see her like
Speaker 1: bum come back in. It was perfect, perfect white neon,
Speaker 1: perfectly shaped hard buns just popping out of the water.
Speaker 1: And the best part was her face every time was
Speaker 1: like can you guys, please you have to do this,
Speaker 1: come on, please do And I'm like, Halla, I am
Speaker 1: not as free as you. I cannot do that. It
Speaker 1: was so um. But our boat captain looked like like
Speaker 1: an Italian Greek Jude law. It was like, is this
Speaker 1: a movie? I'm happy right now? I should have taken
Speaker 1: I'm not about to. I just and I just I
Speaker 1: just didn't feel like he had a right to see that. Like,
Speaker 1: I just was like, this guy does not get to
Speaker 1: see He didn't care at all. I knew he was
Speaker 1: Italian care, but I just felt too. I just, for
Speaker 1: some reason, I was very modest. I see the chest
Speaker 1: all the time, feed I have olive oursing pepper. Okay,
Speaker 1: one more. Never I hover and then we have to
Speaker 1: gh okay. Um. Never have I ever had a road
Speaker 1: rage incident. Already told this story, but I'll tell it again. Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 1: Pulling into a gym eight hundred stupid cars in the
Speaker 1: middle of a fucking freeway. No one knows how to
Speaker 1: drive in Portland. I had just moved there and there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: same issue. They're parked waiting to get into a gym.
Speaker 1: I'm going forty miles an hour and like, what are
Speaker 1: these idiots doing? So I just go around them, pull
Speaker 1: into the parking lot around them. There are seven or
Speaker 1: eight open spots. So I'm like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: these people are doing waiting to walk into the gym.
Speaker 1: They're obviously not waiting for parking, and I take a
Speaker 1: parking spot. I get out of my car. An eight
Speaker 1: year old lady with white hair comes up to me
Speaker 1: and goes, excuse me, that's not how we do things
Speaker 1: around here. I don't know why she was British, but
Speaker 1: she was. And I said, are you waiting for parking?
Speaker 1: There's seven empty spots. Go get a spot. And she's like,
Speaker 1: you went around us. That's not how we do things
Speaker 1: around here. And I go, well, learn to go back
Speaker 1: from it's okay to say that to a British person.
Speaker 1: And then we got into an altercation and then she
Speaker 1: said one more time, that's not how we do things
Speaker 1: around here in Portland, and I go, well, get alive.
Speaker 1: Right in her face, I said, get a life, and
Speaker 1: I felt incredible for ten seconds, and then I walked
Speaker 1: into the gym and went, get a life. What funk
Speaker 1: are you saying? It's so embarrassing, But she's lived a
Speaker 1: fulfilled life. She's like a she's like thirty grandkids and
Speaker 1: she's like, I have one and it's awesome. I'm Julie
Speaker 1: and and I've had um that is. There is something
Speaker 1: about when you pop off on a stranger and like
Speaker 1: let out this rage that, like you're so proud of yourself.
Speaker 1: You have that like Julia Roberts, like big mistake, huge moment.
Speaker 1: Then you walk out there like that was embarrassing even
Speaker 1: though it was cool. Yeah, if other people saw that,
Speaker 1: it's something fail. He's gross about that. It's always unbecoming.
Speaker 1: I had like an altercation with a guy. The best story, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't. He's not the best because the end, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even really remember exactly what I said. Remember, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well it was in the like you had spilled some
Speaker 1: water or something had spilled some water on the bench,
Speaker 1: didn't realize it. And he walks from across the locker
Speaker 1: room and grabs one of those huge towels that you
Speaker 1: know people are using to dry off with, and he goes,
Speaker 1: let me get that for you, and just started, like,
Speaker 1: you know, doing this big exaggerated movement, you know that
Speaker 1: he was wrapping this thing up for him, and I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I didn't even see that. I didn't
Speaker 1: even you know, And he's like, oh, I'll just clean
Speaker 1: up for you around the gym. And I'm like very
Speaker 1: conscientious of like not being in people's way or doing
Speaker 1: something that's like too your strong opinion, yes and so
Speaker 1: and so I'm like I was like, I didn't even
Speaker 1: know that was there. And he was like, well, why
Speaker 1: don't we all just clean up for you and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and uh and I said something about um,
Speaker 1: something about being I forget what I said. Do you remember?
Speaker 1: It was something like, um, you just you just you
Speaker 1: had a good comeback for I forget this one from
Speaker 1: the Greatest Story. It was a convertation. Was like, you
Speaker 1: were just like, you know what, man, um, I didn't
Speaker 1: see it. You're acting ridiculous. This is a total exaggerated
Speaker 1: response to this little thing. I didn't see it. This
Speaker 1: is a marbled surface. It's and our who are you
Speaker 1: to police this? Like? You? You you let him have
Speaker 1: it in a really responsible, I think, like measured way,
Speaker 1: but also like stern and like kind of scary. And
Speaker 1: I think I was like, I think I was like,
Speaker 1: you are a you know, you're fifty five year old
Speaker 1: man who is being passive aggress to a person that
Speaker 1: had no idea he had done something wrong. Grow up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I might probably probably grow up. The current
Speaker 1: version of version get a life. I wish we could
Speaker 1: can we erase that entire section out of the podcast?
Speaker 1: It was such a boring The best part about it
Speaker 1: was that you saw that guy later on. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: so I saw that. So I saw that guy like, um,
Speaker 1: two weeks later or something like that, and um, I
Speaker 1: remember the signs all of the gym right there, signs
Speaker 1: all over the gym that's say that say, you know,
Speaker 1: no jim bags, no chalk, all these things, and he
Speaker 1: was he was next to his machine, and so like,
Speaker 1: you know, this guy's obviously policing the entire gym. You know,
Speaker 1: he's if somebody spills something, it's on him to tell
Speaker 1: people what's wrong with the gym. So he's got his
Speaker 1: gym bag. I go up to his his weightlifting figure,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever machine he was on, and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: what does what does that sign say right there? And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no, Jim bags. Huh. And he
Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, I just want to say I'm
Speaker 1: sorry for what I did. I was out of line.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh yeah, of course, man, I
Speaker 1: was out a line too. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't have been that rude and uh, and
Speaker 1: we literally hugged on the gym floor. Now, every time
Speaker 1: I see him in the gym, I started singing, saying
Speaker 1: so oh sorry, but every time you see him, we
Speaker 1: talk and hang out and we're like buds now and
Speaker 1: we like talk about injuries. I'm like, how you doing, man,
Speaker 1: He's like, oh man, my shoulders all messed up. And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, man, my calf. I loved that
Speaker 1: so much because I was so incensed by this guy
Speaker 1: when I heard this story and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I hate this guy. I can't wait for the conversation.
Speaker 1: And you're telling me that you got to this moment
Speaker 1: where you got to call him out for the same thing.
Speaker 1: He's such a hypocrite and to have it just be
Speaker 1: cut by being like, I'm sorry, it's just it was
Speaker 1: the sweetest thing. I mean, it was just it was
Speaker 1: so hot to me. It was a good moment. Yeah. Um, Tomorrow,
Speaker 1: I want to tell the story of what happened to
Speaker 1: me on a plane when someone was trying to air
Speaker 1: drop me pictures and what I did in response to that.
Speaker 1: So stay tuned to that tomorrow. We'll be back tomorrow
Speaker 1: with Chris and probably my mom. But stay tuned and
Speaker 1: find out Andrew is out of town in Jackson Holle.
Speaker 1: He'll be back on Monday for the show. Thank you
Speaker 1: ay so much for listening to the podcast today, Um
Speaker 1: don't be and Jim Chick sch um Jack car Jack
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