1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Fellow ridiculous historians, We've all been there. You're a Viking. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: You're out there to rave and ravage and pillage, and 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: then lo and behold, you run to the wrong town. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: And now you're trying to get your plunder on, and 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: you went in the wrong cardinal direction. So you can't 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: be both ferocious and have a good sense of direction. 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Right right, right, And as we'll find in today's classic episode, 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: our buddies half Dan and Bjorn not to be an 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: old classic half Dan, they wanted to be known for 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: their ability to be the best Vikings out there. They 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: wanted people to tell stories about them in the oral 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: history of their community. But they accidentally went to the 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: wrong place. 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: It's true. Let's jump right into the story already in progress. 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to the 16 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: show Ridiculous Historians and Possible Viking Descendants. 17 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: My name is Ben, my name is Nol. I used 18 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: to have a little red in my beard. Does that 19 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: mean I'm a possible Viking descendant? 20 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: Well, it means you definitely have the possibility of that 21 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: red hair gene. You know, we would need to we 22 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: need to do some more testing. I also have a 23 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: red beard when I grow it out. And in the 24 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: part of Tennessee where I'm from, there is this old 25 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: folk saying about how you can't trust someone who has 26 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: two different colors of facial hair, So like I have 27 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: brown hair on my head and then red hair on 28 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: my face, not to be trusted. 29 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: What about people with two different color eyes? Because I 30 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: have the two different colored beard and two different color eyes, 31 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: I mean I'm super untrustworthy. 32 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: No, no, no, not in not in my part of 33 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: the world heterochromia. They seem fine with that. 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: They think I'm a witch. I think you might have 35 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: to have. 36 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: A milky eye or very like apparently different eye, you know. 37 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: But you know who is super trustworthy? You know? Tell 38 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: me our super producer, Casey Pegram, who is also, I 39 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: believe not not a Viking. Is that correct, Casey? 40 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: That is correct? Yes, I mean he's not an active Viking. 41 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: His raiding days are behind him, right, I don't want 42 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: to talk about it fair enough, Okay. 43 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: So we were talking about Viking names a little bit 44 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: before we went on the air today and one of 45 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: the questions, one of the questions, I ad we have 46 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: one character in this story named hastein the raider, and 47 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: the question is how many raids do you have to accomplish? 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: How many do you have to rack up or have 49 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: under your belt for that to become part of your name. 50 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: I know I said save it for the pod and 51 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: you did not like that. 52 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of like telling someone to shut up. 53 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: That's not true. 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the end. It just no. 55 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: It just means this conversation would be best had it 56 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: spontaneously in one go, instead of doing it once and 57 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: then trying to do it again, because the magic is 58 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: never the same. 59 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: Ben, I see where you're coming from. But it is 60 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: like telling someone to shut up. 61 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: Okay, Ben, that's fair. 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: But but I seriously wonder though, Nola is like, do 63 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: you do one raid or do you do five? 64 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I mean, surely there's a 65 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: metric for these things. Or maybe he gave himself his 66 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: own nickname. Ooh, good call, that's interesting. I bet that's 67 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: I bet that's true because it is kind of a 68 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: badass nickname. Oh yeah, And you can tell in a 69 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: lot of these stories when someone has a not quite 70 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: complimentary nickname like Charles the Bald or something exactly. That 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: was probably bestowed upon him by people that didn't care 72 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: for him too much. 73 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, propaganda. But why why are we talking about Vikings today? 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: Who? 75 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: What's this deal with hasting the. 76 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: Raider, Costing the Raider and his homie Bjorn Ironside, great name, 77 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: also a great name. They they did a little military blunder. 78 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: That's a lot of fun. It involves some sort of 79 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: trojan Horse like tactics. It involves possible decapitation of members 80 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: of the clergy, and a whole lot of raping and 81 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: pillaging and rating along the way. 82 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, at least that is if they actually existed. 83 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: That's the strange part. 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: I hate that part about history where it's like, God, 85 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: this is so great, but it's probably not true. 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it or they'll try to make it a little 87 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: more optimistic and say they may have been real people. 88 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: You're thinking, what, I'm so invested in this story right now, 89 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: so take it with a grain of salt. This was 90 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: a long long time ago. Hastein was a Viking chieftain 91 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: in the late ninth century, and some of the characters 92 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: in today's story are going to be familiar to you. 93 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: If you are a fan of the television series Vikings. 94 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: Yes, it's true. 95 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: Do you ever check that out? 96 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: I haven't. I watched a little bit of it here 97 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: and there, But I also know apparently it takes quite 98 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: a few liberties with some of these stories as well, 99 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: and their depiction of the character of Bjorn Ironside, he 100 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: doesn't quite do what he probably actually did in the 101 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: historical accounts because it helped them with their storyline a 102 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: little bit. 103 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, I see what you're saying. Was that on 104 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: History Channel? 105 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: I think it was like the weird, anomalous, like big 106 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: budget kind of Game of Thronesy type show on the 107 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: History Channel. That's right. 108 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Well, let us know if you're a fan, and let 109 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: us know what you think they got right or wrong. 110 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: But this is a as much as we can determine 111 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: an historically true tale. 112 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem that way. 113 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so we don't know much about hastein the 114 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: Raider his early life aside for the fact that you know, 115 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: he raided a bunch of stuff. It's right, it wasn't 116 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: around it now. And he came from a well established bloodline. 117 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. All signs point to him being the son of 118 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: a Ragnar Lothbrock, and apparently that was also Bure and 119 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: Ironside's father, so they were possibly brothers. 120 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: They were possibly brothers, or because bloodline was such a 121 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: big deal in this culture at this time, it is 122 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: also completely possible that Hastin just said that to try 123 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: to get some more street cred. Ship cred got it vikings. 124 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 2: So these vikings, they they kind of had a singular mission, 125 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: didn't they. 126 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they had the raiding economy. If you want 127 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: to call it that, oh I do. It's a it's 128 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: a It's a huge part of the life of this culture, 129 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: so much so that of course people would get appellations 130 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: or names for their performance or lack of performance in 131 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: a raid, and if if there was a really well 132 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: done raid, then it would become part of this orld tradition. 133 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: It was a legend. So Ragnar Lothbrock one of his 134 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: big claims to fame was the sacking of Paris. This 135 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: occurred in eight forty five and five thousand vikings led 136 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: by Ragnar took over Paris. It was the largest, richest, 137 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: most defended city in Northern Europe. This was this was 138 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: like a very violent proto heist right, and the king 139 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: of the time, Charles the Bald, paid a huge ransom 140 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: of seven thousand pounds of silver to Ragnar just to 141 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: make them go away. 142 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll do it. So that's what a sacking is, right. 143 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: It's so interesting that term because I think of it 144 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: in the British parlance as getting fired, but it also 145 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: means like getting kind of conquered, which I guess they 146 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: sort of mean the same thing. 147 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it completely I guess I could see that. Yeah, 148 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: that's an interesting etymology. Well that's seven thousand pounds of silver. 149 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: Did not work. They returned a decade later to sack 150 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: the city again. 151 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no honor among Vikings, I guess, yes, yeah. 152 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: And the French in that time were prepared and they 153 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: were able to fight the Vikings off. But then in 154 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: eight fifty seven, Bjorn Ironside, son of Ragnar, actual son, 155 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: he takes his crew and they returned to Paris. But 156 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: they noticed that Paris is in ruins. Only after they're 157 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: done looting, only four out of the what twenty five 158 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: to thirty something churches were left standing. And they were 159 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: encouraged by this wanton mayhem, this gleeful destruction, and they said, 160 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: you know what raids are cool? Raids are super cool, 161 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: but Paris has kind of been done. Let's go for 162 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: something bigger. 163 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: Why was it in such ruins, Ben? 164 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: So from eight forty five to eight fifty seven, we're 165 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: talking about three different sackings. There's not enough time for 166 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: the city to really repair it. So, you know what 167 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: I mean, you can only squeeze so much. I was 168 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: gonna see milk from a cow, but that seems weird. 169 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: You can't get blood from a stone. 170 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: Poor Paris. Yeah, haven't they had enough? I mean, so 171 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: that's basically what the takeaway was, right, That's what I mean. 172 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: They were literally like, you know what I think? Uh, 173 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna leave them alone this time, right right, 174 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: pretty much right now, Ben, we should probably really quickly 175 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: mention that Hostein was such a badass that he actually 176 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: had quite a few names, whether they were aliases or 177 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: other nicknames, but he was known as aka half Dan. 178 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: That's my favorite one, by the way. I mean, he's 179 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: like half a he's got a full day. He's half 180 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: the d he used to be. 181 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: Yes, half the Dan you used to be. 182 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: I like that. He's also allsting and also hasting with 183 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: that really cool ae combined letter. What do you call 184 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: that ben. 185 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: Technically speaking, it's a grapheme formed from the letters A 186 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: and E. It originally represented the Latin diphthong ae. Just 187 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: sort of got smushed into one thing. 188 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: Got it. Got it? So at this point, Hastein and 189 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: Bjorn decide to make their way to the south of 190 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: France on the Lore Riverluir. Ah, Casey on the case. 191 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: You know what usually we I thought it was always 192 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: vampire rules with you, Casey, we invoke you. I thought 193 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: we had to invite you in now to jump in there. 194 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: He couldn't. He couldn't. He couldn't let that that gross 195 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: mispronunciation stand. Just trying to save us all some emails. 196 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: I appreciate it, buddy, I appreciate it. So we're lure 197 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: lure luar. So yeah, So they're sailing, I believe, a 198 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: fleet of sixty two ships down the Luire River. Excuse me, 199 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: in case you don't need to have you popping into 200 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: my head again. 201 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: Uh. 202 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 2: And they're going to the Iberian Peninsula. So where they 203 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: are is in what is today modern day France, and 204 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,119 Speaker 2: then they're going to what is now Spain and Portugal, 205 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: and along the way they don't always do too hot 206 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: because they're kind of persona on grada at this point. 207 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: They keep running around sacking places and pillaging and just 208 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: having their way. So people are kind of wise to 209 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: them a little bit at this point, aren't they. 210 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all during this time, This is part 211 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: of the Umad Caliphate, and you could only do this 212 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: kind of thing so many times before people start realizing 213 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: there's trouble afoot, you know what I mean, unless you 214 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: kill everyone in the town you attack. So they did 215 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: not have a flawless record. In fact, when they were 216 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: raiding ships along the Glacian coast, they found that the 217 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: local resistance overall was just too strong. So they weren't 218 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: moving because they were maybe seeking greater riches. They were 219 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: seeking easier targets, easier pickings, easier pickings. That's how a 220 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: lot of predators work, you know. And so they moved 221 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: on to pillage the west coast of the emirate, and 222 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: there they started encountering more success. So the coast guardard 223 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: of the time captured two long ships scouting ahead of 224 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: the main fleet, and they found that these ships, these 225 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: scout ships, were already full of treasure and food and 226 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: slaves or captives that were destined to be enslaves. 227 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: So at this point they're almost in, they're almost switching 228 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: their tactics to more traditional pirate kind. 229 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: Of right, right right, and they suffer another defeat when 230 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: they land in southwest Spain. The fleet next goes to 231 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,479 Speaker 1: the mouth of the guattle Quavier with the intention, maybe 232 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: historians guests, of attacking Seville for a second time. But 233 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: then they got confronted by the Moorish fleet. These were 234 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: actual trained soldiers, They had maritime war tactics. These were 235 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: not just helpless fishing community. 236 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: And didn't they lose a whole bunch of ships and 237 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: men in this confrontation? 238 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Moorish Fleet had incendiary weapons. They were 239 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: literally lighting them up, And yeah, the ships burned, people died. 240 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: What did the Vikings used typically? Were they using like 241 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: I mean axes, I imagine in close combat? But what 242 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 2: what would they use in ce combat? Do you think? 243 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 3: Well? 244 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: One thing we know for sure is that it was 245 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: a long standing rule of theirs to leave town, to 246 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: leave the scene if resistance was too strong. That's why 247 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: they're raiders, you know what I mean. So if we 248 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: if we're guessing, we know that a lot of their 249 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: fleets had little to know cohesion, you know, it's kind 250 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: of like more like a convoy on the road. 251 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: I see. 252 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, So they didn't attack ships with the intent of 253 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: destroying them. They wanted to board them. So one of 254 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: their common tactics was to try to ram ships and 255 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: then once they're close enough, jump on the show. 256 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: There you go, and then they probably go to town 257 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: with those battle axes right with them. But I do 258 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: believe they also used bows and arrows and spears and 259 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: things like that, and I could picture shooting volleys of arrows, 260 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: you know, onto other ships. Possibly I don't know, I 261 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: can't confirm that, but it seems like that would be 262 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: one way of getting it done. 263 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: M Yeah, yeah, agreed. So typically their their aim was 264 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: to get in close quarters to kill enslave plunder. But 265 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: this other fleet that is well well accustomed to maritime 266 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: ship on ship warfare, they're you know, they're Wu Tang style. 267 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: They're nothing to with Yeah. 268 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: For sure, No, And I mean they were designed for 269 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: that purpose of ramming as well. I mean the way 270 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: the whole the whole ship was kind of built with 271 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: that in mind. 272 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: And so as as we said, Noel, they encounter professional 273 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: naval forces, and they get the horns slapped off the helmets, which, 274 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: by the way, is a stereotype, and they were barely 275 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: able to make their way home. The few that were 276 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: left alive were forced to pay a ransom to escape. 277 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: But this defeat, this ignominious defeat, did not scare or 278 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: extinguish the thirst for vast treasures in glory on the 279 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: part of Bjorn Ironside and Hastin half Dan, half Damn. 280 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: I love half Dan. So at this point they've had 281 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: some wins, they've had some losses, you know, but they 282 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: still want more. That's sort of the nature of this 283 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: kind of life, right, You don't really rest on your laurels, 284 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: you know, otherwise you'll be seen as weak and then 285 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: you won't be the toughest viking in the sea, right, 286 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: and then what's the point. What's the point? Well, no, 287 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 2: it's it's kind of like mob rules, right, Like if 288 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: it's as soon as you let up and stop, you know, 289 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: kicking people's asses all the time and taking collections, then 290 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, someone else is going to move 291 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: in on your turf. So they couldn't have that. And 292 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: I think we've all heard that expression all roads lead 293 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: to Rome. At this time. That was especially true because 294 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: Rome was seen as like the crown jewel of sackable places, right, Like, 295 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: that's the one that you would guarantee to have a crazy, 296 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: incredible haul because it was full of riches and wealth, 297 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: and it like we had this whole you know, civilized 298 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: society with culture and like it was just practically the 299 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: streets were paved with gold right in the minds of 300 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: these vikings and the minds these vikings. And this leads 301 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: us to another character. We have to introduce the Norman 302 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: monk Dudo of Saint Quentin. Ah Dudo, Dudo, dude. 303 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: Oh, we don't know a ton about this guy, except 304 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: that he was born around nine sixty five, he was 305 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: in the Norman court Normandy for a while, and in 306 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: his second stay in Normandy he wrote his history of 307 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: the Normans. And as for the rest of his life, 308 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: we know that he died some time before ten forty three, 309 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: So don't know a whole heck of a lot about him, 310 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: but we do know that he is the source of 311 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: the story that takes place next. Here's what happens. According 312 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: to this story, You're on Ironside and then his buddy, 313 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: half Dan. They land in a place after they've been 314 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: raiding the coast of Africa and getting their butts whipped 315 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: by some professional naval forces. They land somewhere in Italy, 316 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: and they think, this is the most amazing city. Holy smokes, 317 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: bro we made it. We're in Rome and we're about 318 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: to get down. 319 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: We are going to tear the place up. We're gonna 320 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: light it up yolo big time. It's a total Viking 321 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: yellow sitch. 322 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: So they want to use a little bit of cunning 323 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: because from everything they know about Rome, it's huge, it's 324 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: a home to opulent wealth, and it's probably very well protected. Right, 325 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: So they said, there's no way we can take this 326 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: by force, Like we're we're great guys, half Dan, but 327 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: we we got to think this through. Let's let's see 328 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: this through. 329 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: Our usual bloodthirsty, ruthless kind of smash and grab techniques 330 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: are not going to serve us in this particular situation. Yeah, 331 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: half Dan, that's how that went. Yeah, this is this 332 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: is a recreat Okay. 333 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: So then I say, okay, well, let's let's give it 334 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: a night, let's think on it. The next morning, a 335 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: small group of Vikings approaches the city walls, and they say, 336 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: hold on, holda hi, hang on. I know we look crazy, 337 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: dressed in furs, dirty and sea worn, but we have 338 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: not come to plunder you. We have no strength left. 339 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: We're exhausted. We've been traveling a lot. Could you just 340 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: make peace with us and let us buy what we need, 341 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: you know, like food and provisions. Our chiefs are we 342 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: can broken and we need help. 343 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 2: And our boy half Dan here is not doing so well. 344 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is on death's door and he has seen 345 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: the light in the way of Rome. He seeks the 346 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: absolution of your religious leaders. 347 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 2: And you know, let's. 348 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: Keep our opinions out of it, because he's the boss. 349 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: So he needs to be baptized if he dies here. 350 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: He wants to be buried in this city, a Christian burial, 351 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: consecrated ground. 352 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: So and I mean, I think you know that probably 353 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: like the word conversion is like catnip to these people, 354 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it's like, okay, sure, the Heathens, 355 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: you want one, will give one to God. Let's do it. 356 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: Let him in, open the gates. So I guess he 357 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: and like a couple of his associates come in right, and. 358 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: You'll hear a couple of different versions of this story. 359 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: Right. 360 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: In one story, Costiner half Dan is already dead quote unquote, 361 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: and they his followers take this coffin in there to 362 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: just get the burial. And other versions of the story, 363 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: he is taken in and he's the technical word is malingering. 364 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: He's acting like he's a little more ill than he 365 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: actually is. And he sits through a baptism ceremony, right, 366 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: the anointed him with holy ointment and oil, and he's 367 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: smiling and he falls backwards on a stretcher. He's carried 368 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: back to the ship by his companions, really doing a 369 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: real Miisner number. Yeah. 370 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 371 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: And then after he gets carried back, they're doing a 372 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: con right. And so now the people trust that the 373 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: Vikings are sincere. And again, according to Dudo, I love 374 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: that name. According to Dudo, this is when half Dan 375 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: says to his followers, when night comes, you should say 376 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: to the priest and the duke that I am dead, 377 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: and fervently pray that I may be buried in this city. 378 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: Say that you want to give them the sword and 379 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: bracelet and everything that belongs to me. 380 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: Spooky stuff, right, treachery too, right, indeed, treachery most foul, 381 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: and so they. 382 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: Go back and they say, our chief, as you have 383 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: just named him, is dead. We pray that you could 384 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: be buried in your convent and that you received these 385 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: rich gifts he gave for you on his deathbed. So hey, 386 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: there's an upside for you Rome. But what happens next? 387 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: Oh well, my favorite version of the story is when 388 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: he pops out of the coffin and slices off the 389 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 2: head of a priest and then says, you know, Yolo. 390 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: And then he and his dudes charged back through the 391 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: city to the gate. They open it up to the horde, 392 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: you know, the remaining foot soldiers, I guess. And then 393 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: something occurs to Bjorn or half Dan or Hastin. Hastin. Yes, 394 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: it's a terrible realization, man, quite embarrassing really, and I'm 395 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: not sure what did it for them, but something there 396 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: was an aha moment or like an oh moment. What 397 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: did they realize. 398 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: They had successfully sacked the wrong city, a completely different city. 399 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: They were Viking rubes from the wild. They had no 400 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: idea that they never made it to Rome. Instead, they 401 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: were in a different town. 402 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called a luna. And again, these are all 403 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: some questionable retellings of this because there are two different versions. 404 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 2: We'll tell the other one in a second. But in 405 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: one version of this, they were so embarrassed that they 406 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: massacred the entire population of the city. 407 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: They don't take well to surprises, I guess, so yeah. 408 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: According to this version, they turn into full on lunatics. 409 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: They kill everyone, or at least all the adult men, 410 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: and then they say, okay, we're gonna keep sailing. We're 411 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: going southeast, maybe to Alexandria in Egypt or something, and 412 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: then they raid the Mediterranean for a few years than 413 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: they return home, never to tell people of their embarrassing 414 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: wrong turn. 415 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: That's right. And then there's a whole other conflict involving 416 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 2: Alfred the Great, where the forces of Hastein and Bjorn 417 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: are kicking it around Europe, the United Kingdom, specifically Wales. Actually, 418 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: his family gets abducted by the forces of Alfred the 419 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: Great and he ends up having to negotiate with him 420 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: to get this family returned to him, and one thing 421 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: leads to another, and he does not succeed, and he 422 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: more or less disappears from history around eight ninety six. 423 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: There's really no more mention of Hastein. Half Dan allsting, 424 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 2: whatever you want to call him. Yeah, yeah, you're correct. 425 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 2: He disappears around eight ninety six. By then he is 426 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: an elderly man. He's been described as the lusty and 427 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: terrifying old warrior of the Luoch and the Psalm, and 428 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 2: we now know that he was one of the most 429 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: notorious and successful Vikings of all time. But can't be 430 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: that way without making enemies. So the Norman monk Dudo 431 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: of Saint Quentin was incredibly critical of our boy half Dan. 432 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: He said, quote, this was a man accursed, fierce, mightily, 433 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: cruel and savage, pestilent, hostile, sombra truculent, given to outrage, 434 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: peestulent and untrustworthy, fickle and lawless, death dealing, uncouth, fertile 435 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 2: in ruses, wormonger, general traitor, fomentor of evil and double 436 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: diided dissimulator. Goodness, gracious, right, that is a war of words, 437 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: right there, my friend. 438 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Fertile in ruses is such a great insult. 439 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: He also uses pestulent twice, which I couldn't help but 440 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: notice that. But yeah, so he definitely lives on in 441 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: infamy even after, you know, disappearing from the record. 442 00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: You're right, he doubled down a pestil. He really did, 443 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: So the question then becomes a matter of how much 444 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: we can trust dudo. You know what I mean? Is 445 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: he just spinning tails to amuse himself or you know, 446 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: what are his sources? So we can say that this 447 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: still counts as ridiculous history, despite the fact that many, 448 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: many people died because these guys, if we are to 449 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: believe the story, were so intelligent that they figured out 450 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: a trojan horse type ruse or heist on their own, sure, 451 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: but still didn't know what city they were in. 452 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean it's not like they had all 453 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: the maps or anything. They were kind of just like 454 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: going by their gut, their Viking guts. So thank you 455 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: so much for tuning in everyone. We hope that you 456 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: enjoyed today. Every time I thought maybe it wasn't gonna 457 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: happen again every time. Yeah, it's. 458 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: Gentlemen, Strickland a quizt or as you like to call him, 459 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: a quizzler. I take because it's like. 460 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: Using his name in vain. 461 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 3: You know that quizzler is a trademarked candy coming straight 462 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 3: from the chocolate shop. I also happened to run. 463 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: Why are you announcing that in such an archway. I mean, congratulations, man, 464 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: that's cool. 465 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 3: Evil candy. 466 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 2: That's you sell those giant gobstopper things like the jawbreakers, 467 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: you know that are impossible to fit in your mouth? 468 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: Is it like that frustrating candy. 469 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, the kind that you have to unhinge your 470 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: jaw in order to put it in, and then they're 471 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: just stuck, stuck with it. 472 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: Edgy inconvenient candy. 473 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 3: We like to turn good kids into horrible kids and 474 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: then release them upon the world. I don't go in 475 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 3: for all this nonsense of taking evil kids and then, 476 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: you know, turning them into blueberries. That's just that's amateur work. 477 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, this became a bit of an exercise to 478 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: throw some shade at Wonka. Huh, you get nothing, all right, you? 479 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 3: Actually it's a little early for that good day, sir. Yes, 480 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: let's find out if you will lose, because we all 481 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 3: know that I've been summoned here, and that tis my want. 482 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: Whenever I find out, when I finally figure out who 483 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: is summoning you, the woe be unto them. 484 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: I just say, there's a little button under one of 485 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 3: these desks, but someone pushes it a light comes on 486 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: at my desk and I run over here as fast 487 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: as my little legs can carries. 488 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: Is it like a bat phone kind of situation? Do 489 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: you have like a red telephone that blinks? 490 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 3: Or teller of what join the twenty first century? Nol 491 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: hair All right, So as I understand that you're talking 492 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: about an invasion in this, so I sacking. I've come 493 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: up with my ans, my own invasion quandary. If you 494 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 3: do not understand those listening what is happening, I don't 495 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 3: blame you. You haven't bothered to explain it yet. 496 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: Oh let's do let's do that part. So this is 497 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: the This is the part of the show where you, 498 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: Jonathan strick In the Quiztor, arrive at the most unexpected moments, 499 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: which tend to universally be towards the end of. 500 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 3: The show, fully in disguise, despite the fact that you 501 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: have already established I am in fact Jonathan Strickland the Quiztor. 502 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, these are all true things, and you are 503 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: here to once again test our knowledge. You are going 504 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: to give us a scenario. Is that correct? 505 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: That's a scenario, and then you will determine whether or 506 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 3: not in fact the scenario I present to you represents 507 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 3: a true event in history or if I made it 508 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 3: up seas, and you will have three minutes to do so. 509 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 3: In that three minutes, you will also be allowed to 510 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: ask questions of me, but only if you first obey 511 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: a rule of arbitrary nature that I will come up 512 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 3: with at the time of the question. So first I 513 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: will give you the scenario. Then I will tell you 514 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: what the rule is you must follow to ask any questions, 515 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: and then we shall begin the Great Grandfather clock timer. Okay, guys, 516 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 3: I haven't touched that since daylight saving. 517 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: No, okay, look irritating me. 518 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: It's an entire hour. 519 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: I don't support daylight saving time. For the record, I 520 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: choose to daylight waster. Yeah. Well, we just. 521 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: Spent so much money on this clock. Quick peek behind 522 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: the curtain. This was a television show originally, but we 523 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: blew the budget on this enormous clock, and that's my fault. 524 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: And now we're a podcast. 525 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: I still feel obligated to wear the costume. 526 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: Thank you man, Thank well. I just want to apologize. 527 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry, Casey, I'm somewhat sorry. Jonathan, 528 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: he's tight's chafy so where are we? 529 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: Where's just scenario? Here we are. The year sixteen hundred 530 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: and twenty five saw an entire English invasion of Spain 531 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: called off on account of drunkenness. Allow me to explain 532 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: for complicated reasons involving a Spanish princess giving the cold 533 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: shoulder to Prince Charles, the son of James the First, 534 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: the Duke of Buckingham, wanted to use the English fleet 535 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: to put a hurt on Spain. James died in sixteen 536 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 3: twenty five, and his boy Chuck became Charles the First. 537 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: Chuck dissolved parliament and Buckingham got to have his invasion, 538 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: except he forgot to supply the boats. So the fleet 539 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: attacked Cadiz, Spain, and takes over a superfluous fort, and 540 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 3: the commander of the invasion, seeing that he didn't have 541 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 3: the food and supplies needed to feed his invasion force, 542 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: gave the English permission to sack the fort's supplies, and 543 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: so the English began to drink copious amounts of wine 544 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 3: until the entire force of fifteen thousand soldiers were drunk 545 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: as skunks. Seeing no way to victory, the commander ordered 546 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: a retreat and Spain's invasion was cut very short due 547 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: to public drunkenness. Now, your arbitrary rule is, before you 548 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: ask a question, you must make a toast. 549 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: Start the timer, a right, give running start, oh for, 550 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: and we're off to the races. What do you think, 551 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: maw m, he's so good at this, He's really good 552 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: at this. 553 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: And I hate to say it. I hate to even 554 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: give a shred of a compliment to the quiztor, but 555 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: he really knows how to push my buttons. Yes, yes, 556 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: let's see. That wasn't helpful for the question. 557 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: Valuable context man, A toast, A toast to half Dan, 558 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: good enough, who's in the episode that we just did? Okay, 559 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: so how common was wine at this time? 560 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: Extremely? Wine is ancient. And then this was Spain, which 561 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: is not that far from I don't know if you 562 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: know your geography France. 563 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: All right? 564 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: Also a toast to Tuba solos. 565 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 3: You're not even trying, mister, but they're great. 566 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: Was was Spain a caliphate at that time? 567 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: This is immaterial of the question. 568 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: I know, I've I've just tried to. 569 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: I can give you a lot more details if you want. 570 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: I can either make them up seas or I can 571 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: tell you real things about sixteen twenty five Spain. 572 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: That's true. That's an irrelevant question my part, Nol, do 573 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: you have a question. 574 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: I just don't even know where to start. I'm just 575 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: so flummixed by this one. I tend to lean towards. 576 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm going with true. Okay, locket it three to one. 577 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 3: True, you are current. Yeah, this actually did happen. Let 578 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: me explain what was happening, because the story gets so 579 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: much crazier. But really that was running a long already 580 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 3: and I didn't want to make it a super long one. 581 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 3: So here's the story. We have James the first of 582 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,239 Speaker 3: England and he wants to make peace with Spain. There 583 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: would been hostilities between the two nations for quite some time. 584 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 3: You might have heard of a little thing called the 585 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: Spanish Arma. Elizabeth was all not having it anyway. To 586 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 3: a secure peace in the Renaissance really meant one thing, 587 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 3: which is mary one of your kids to one of 588 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: the snot nosed kids of the other place, and then 589 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 3: hope that everything turns out all right. So James reaches 590 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: out to see if perhaps they might be able to 591 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 3: arrange a marriage between a infanta of the Spanish royalty 592 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: and his son, Charles the First or Charles at that point. 593 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 3: Then Charles and Buckingham went incognito to Spain. That means no, 594 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 3: they weren't letting everyone know who they were. Are you 595 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 3: kind of sending to me, sir? So they go to Spain. 596 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: I think condescending means talk down to people. 597 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 3: No, you're talking to an expert. The Infanta says, thanks, 598 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: but no thanks, Chuck, I don't think you're really revving 599 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: my engines. And so they were returned to England, Buckingham 600 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: immediately bucking him by the where it was one of 601 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: James the First's favorites, possibly lover, and they wanted to 602 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: immediately to create an invasion of Spain. James the First 603 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: didn't want to make things worse, so until he died, 604 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 3: which was in sixteen twenty five, that's how things stood. 605 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: Then they tried to get Parliament to agree to this invasion, 606 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 3: but they were worried that perhaps Parliament would agree to 607 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 3: the invasion but then not pay for it to happen, 608 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: so they waited until Charles. Now Charles the First dissolved parliament, 609 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 3: so parliament is not in session, and then they go 610 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: and mount this invasion. They hire a Dutch commander who 611 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 3: was a brilliant land soldier. Okay, take up this armada, 612 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 3: invade Spain. They take over a fort that doesn't remotely 613 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 3: give them access to the town they actually need to take, 614 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: and the only supplies they had any access to a wine. 615 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 3: And then the commander says, tell you what, why you guys, 616 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: go ahead and get yourself something to drink because this 617 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 3: might take a while. And they got a rotten, stinging 618 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 3: drunk they ran away. One thousand English soldiers were left behind. 619 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 3: Not a single shot was fired in that invasion, and 620 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 3: all one thousand English soldiers were put to the sword. Cheerful, 621 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 3: cheerful into that story run. 622 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: Through as it were. 623 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 3: They probably didn't notice, having been full of sack, which 624 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: is a very strong wine. 625 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow, we're back to the We're back to sack, 626 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: you said, because we were debating. We were actually we 627 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: were trying to figure out on the fly while we 628 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: were recording the difference between sack, ransack and looting. And 629 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,479 Speaker 1: there's not really one. 630 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: Well, and also sacks in getting fired in Britain, and 631 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: then sack is in taking over a city. 632 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 3: Well, and there's also sack, which is very strong wine. 633 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,959 Speaker 1: Which I love. Now I'm going to refer to any 634 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 1: cheap cheap wine as sack should Henry. 635 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 3: Henry the fourth Part one False Staff is known for 636 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 3: his sack. That's a that's a pun as well. 637 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: I think we've okay, good so so very body, middle 638 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: school Shakespeare, A dirty dirty man is a baldy boy 639 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: middle school media? Was it completely off base? Jonathan Strickland 640 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: is also known as the Quizter. Thank you for returning 641 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: to the show. I think we're still a little behind him, might. 642 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 3: Be only one behind me this point. I think we're 643 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 3: almost even. You know what that means? 644 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, going to get way worse. I don't know that 645 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: that's possible. You're kind of the worst. 646 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: I think. I think you're all right. I appreciate learning. 647 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna use the word sack a lot more. I 648 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: feel like I never appreciated it. 649 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 2: You're sort of a Carmen san Diego type figure, you know, 650 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 2: Carmen sacked. 651 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 3: It's true that Rockapella sings wherever I go. 652 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: So so I Jonathan, I feel like we don't say 653 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: this too often when you are on this show. You 654 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: can be found not just here but on your other podcast, 655 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: Tech Stuff and the Brink, as well as large nerdrawn 656 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: collider coming soon available wherever you find your favorite shows. 657 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: So in the meantime, we hope that you enjoyed this story. 658 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: If you find names as cool as half Dan or 659 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: Pure and Ironside, let us know sack Man sack Man 660 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: half half sack. 661 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: We gotta get it. There happened. 662 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: People can tell we're recorded on a Friday. Yeah, list 663 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: so you can find us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. 664 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: Join your fellow listeners over at our Facebook page, ridiculous Historians. 665 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: Dare we say it's more than just a page, it's 666 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 2: a family. 667 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't dare. 668 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: No good there all the time. 669 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 3: I know I'm there. I don't dare say it's a family. 670 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 2: Oh that would be nice because. 671 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 3: The holidays are coming up, but I already have a 672 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 3: really long shopping list. 673 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: That's fair, That makes sense. Well, thanks to all of 674 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 2: you guys out there in podcast land. Thanks to you 675 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: Ben for being such a good co host and friend 676 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 2: and happy holidays and all that. Quister, Thanks, thank you, 677 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 2: thank you, thank you. 678 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: You know I gave you a little present as your desk. 679 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 3: Don't drink it. I feel badly about it now. 680 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: Oh, thanks for the heads up, Okay, you know what. 681 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 3: Back. 682 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: We're a family show, so thanks to you, Casey Pegram. 683 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: As always, thanks to Alex Williams who composed our track 684 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: and Chris frossiotis our research associate for this episode. 685 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 2: And stay tuned for the next episode where we talk 686 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 2: about the surprising roots of the Tooth Fairy. See you then. 687 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 688 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.