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Speaker 1: The Volume.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkison Jones on The Volume podcast Network. It

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Speaker 2: is Thursday, January sixteenth. We've got a fun episode for

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Speaker 2: you today. We're going to talk a little college football

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Speaker 2: national championship with our special guest, and then John will

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Speaker 2: be joining us in a few minutes and we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about the We might talk about Drake for a couple

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Speaker 2: of minutes.

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Speaker 3: It might happen. It's very possible. Stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: We are, as you can see, joined by our special guest,

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Speaker 2: Mike Gelick Junior Gojo, a co host of Gojo and Golick.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for hopping on.

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Speaker 4: With us, bro.

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Speaker 3: We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Now, appreciate you guys have me man, It's nice to

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Speaker 5: be back after getting to be a part of the

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Speaker 5: run through the college football game there and getting to

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Speaker 5: commentate a little bit.

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Speaker 4: So happy to be back here. Appreciate it. Hell yeah,

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Speaker 4: IM gonna talk some real football today.

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Speaker 5: The real football that's making me nervous hell right now.

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Speaker 5: Fandom is a mistake. We all signed up to just

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Speaker 5: poison ourselves willingly because we're stupid, and I hate myself

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Speaker 5: for it.

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Speaker 4: That's how you're feeling right now. To nerds of that man,

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Speaker 4: you stressing.

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Speaker 5: I have gotten to that point where I have allowed

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Speaker 5: because like any true fan is always the last one

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Speaker 5: to actually believe in their team, like the ones that

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Speaker 5: have been around teams that have hurt them enough over

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Speaker 5: the years. You get analysts and my friends in the

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Speaker 5: media that like pick notre Dame early on, and I

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Speaker 5: always lasted the party because I'm like, I used to

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Speaker 5: mess up people's lives when I was a part.

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Speaker 3: Of this team.

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Speaker 5: So I know what we are capable of better than

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Speaker 5: almost anybody, and so you're gonna have to always earn

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Speaker 5: my respect, you know, the latest in this And I'm

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Speaker 5: finally at that point now where I believe that we

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Speaker 5: are going to win the game, and so I have

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Speaker 5: set myself up for the ultimate version of this heartbreak.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: What was that?

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Speaker 2: Like, have you had any confidence to this point or

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Speaker 2: has every game been like, well, it's great that we

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Speaker 2: got to this, but you know what I mean, like

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Speaker 2: where are you just as a fan?

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Speaker 3: Like you said, like how do you process those games?

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Speaker 5: I hit confidence, thankfully, like in this season, probably around

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Speaker 5: like the Army or Navy game where I was like,

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Speaker 5: oh okay, like we're really like we have weaponized this thing.

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Speaker 5: After the you know, Northern Illinois lost that, everyone talks

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Speaker 5: about the defense and that was the real thing too,

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Speaker 5: is like the defense was in.

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Speaker 4: War machine mode like that was.

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Speaker 5: And the confidence that gives a roster Like the team

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Speaker 5: I played on that played in the title game, we

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Speaker 5: that year. We had dudes. Mantai was second in the

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Speaker 5: Heisman voting that year. We had future NFL guys there,

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Speaker 5: the Navy team that was actually good. Again this year,

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Speaker 5: I was like, all right, we might be onto something here,

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Speaker 5: and they've just stepped up every step of the way.

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Speaker 5: So I do have some confidence now, which is also

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Speaker 1: You know, that's interesting you mentioned you know your time

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Speaker 1: it's a player, because that's a question that I have,

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Speaker 1: like what would is there a difference in the nerves

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Speaker 1: that you have, you know, being that year someone you

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Speaker 1: were on that Notre Dame squad that played Alabama in

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Speaker 1: that championship in twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Are the nerves different from being a player as opposed

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Speaker 1: we can beat anybody. Let's fucking go, Like, is there

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Speaker 1: a difference now that you're not on the field one

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Speaker 5: Like that's the the I don't have much of a

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Speaker 5: the one thing that pisses me off when people were like,

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, yes, of course, Like look at the

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Speaker 5: teams that we had beaten, the games that we had

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Speaker 5: of the season we had earned that confidence and back

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Speaker 5: then too, And this is the biggest I think difference

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Speaker 5: is we have forty days to get ready for that game.

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Speaker 5: Like the BCS era, you had a huge gap of time,

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Speaker 5: into that one. Like I puked out of nerves before

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Speaker 5: because I'm like, I'm ready. I'm not going to be

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Speaker 5: the nerves are totally different because you are working towards something,

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Speaker 5: I don't have time to worry about all this stuff

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Speaker 5: if Notre Dame loses now, like the NIU game ruined

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Speaker 4: Here sitting as a fan and a former player.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, you know, Notre Dames in such an interesting

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Speaker 2: it was. And obviously they've wielded the power and influence

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Speaker 2: in a very intelligent and skillful way. But it's it

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Speaker 2: is like you're in an interesting spot. I guess my

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Speaker 2: question is, as a Notre Dame fan and alum, how

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Speaker 2: do you feel about where you are and how much

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Speaker 2: are you enjoying the Brian Kelly saying, Oh, I want

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Speaker 2: going with that narrative, right of like it's it's gonna

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Speaker 2: oh shit, I mean we'll go to the national championship

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 3: Bro, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it is.

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Speaker 5: It is crazy because there was a while for me

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Speaker 5: and you know, I know he's come back with some

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Speaker 5: to win a national championship. The last three coaches that

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Speaker 5: You have all this talent in your backyard. There was

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Speaker 5: a time where I wondered, like, hey, what Brian did

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's the winning his coach in Notre Dame history,

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Speaker 5: Like he won more games than Newt Rockney at a

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Speaker 5: with all the changes in the sport, would Notre Dame

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Speaker 5: have the opportunity to actually compete for titles in the

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Speaker 5: response to this era of football and how they've positioned

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Speaker 5: like positioning themselves now in the playoff era where hey, listen,

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame is always gonna have a shot with this

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Speaker 5: because we smell like money.

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Speaker 4: When people look at us, they see the.

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Speaker 5: Dollar signs in the eyeballs that are driving the television contracts,

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Speaker 5: you know, seven at large bids, but they're never going

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Speaker 4: They're ever gonna get to do all that.

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Speaker 5: And then everyone hated that system so much they're like, oh,

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Speaker 5: well we have to change this and see this naturally,

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Speaker 5: and Notre Dame fans are over here like, I don't

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Speaker 5: natural seeding actually get one of those buys in there,

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Speaker 5: for them where they've weathered this initial storm of all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, person think Notre Dame's going to remain independent forever.

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Speaker 1: I don't see them joining a conference. But you know, IGNI.

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Speaker 5: Agree, Well, I would say, well, I always joke like

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Speaker 5: Notre Dame will join a conference when we go to

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Speaker 5: like I call it football Pangaea, like when we finally

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Speaker 5: Like that's when Notre Dame, I think, is going to

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Speaker 5: end up join a league because for all the people

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Speaker 5: that wanted the ACC to box them out of the CFP,

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Speaker 5: like again, we look like money to them.

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Speaker 4: That's all they see. They don't see anything else.

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Speaker 5: They're just like Notre Dame is eyeballs and dollars, and

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Speaker 5: so they're always going to have a place in whatever

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Speaker 5: the postseason structure is. So I do agree they won't

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Speaker 5: be in a conference until there isn't another conference.

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Speaker 4: There's just the one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And Here's why I don't think Notre Dame it

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Speaker 1: will ever join a conference is because with the new

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Speaker 1: playoff set up, the winner the national champ twenty million

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Speaker 1: dollars goes to their conference. If Notre Dame wins this,

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Speaker 1: they get to pocket all twenty million, which is huge

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Speaker 1: in the NIL era, and it would be even more

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Speaker 1: hilarious given that they went through essentially a Big ten tournament,

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Speaker 1: you know, to win this championship, knocking off Indiana Pits

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Speaker 1: State at Ohio State, if that's the case. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's another reason why I don't see Notre Dame

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent, especially in the NIL era.

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Speaker 5: Now well, and like look to your point in the

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Speaker 5: And it's this might be exclusive to the big places,

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Speaker 5: of that same oral with Lebron where it's like, oh, okay,

442
00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,600
Speaker 5: I get all this now.

443
00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

444
00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:55,560
Speaker 3: You know.

445
00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,159
Speaker 1: Brown was a high school guy in football, play wilde receiver.

446
00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,840
Speaker 1: He was widely recruited. He said he was considering going

447
00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,240
Speaker 1: to Notre Dame because he had a really good relationship

448
00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,960
Speaker 1: with the wide receiver coach at the time. Do y'all

449
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,560
Speaker 1: know who the wire receiver coach was? No, Urban Meyer?

450
00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, bro.

451
00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,960
Speaker 5: It's it's crazy how much like Urban Rockwood Notre Dame.

452
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,000
Speaker 5: Like he came up there for the coach this clinic

453
00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,239
Speaker 5: one year and walked over and like I had been

454
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,919
Speaker 5: lightly recruited by Florida when he was there, Like you know,

455
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,520
Speaker 5: it was just I went on a visit or something.

456
00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,240
Speaker 5: But you know, he's good at remembering guys like a

457
00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,320
Speaker 5: lot of those coaches were and he walked up to

458
00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,240
Speaker 5: me and he's like, check this out, and he pulled

459
00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,160
Speaker 5: out before games at Notre Dame. I think they still

460
00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,440
Speaker 5: do this, but they did this when I was there,

461
00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,439
Speaker 5: and through that they used to have like a medal

462
00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 5: of a saint and they would bless it and they

463
00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,240
Speaker 5: would give it to you before every game, is like

464
00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,720
Speaker 5: something to take with you there. And he had a

465
00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,440
Speaker 5: whole like collection of like this is the one from

466
00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,119
Speaker 5: when one of my kids was born, and this is

467
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,720
Speaker 5: one one when this was happened, Like.

468
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,080
Speaker 4: He had a connection to that place. I wish he

469
00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:51,359
Speaker 4: could have.

470
00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,879
Speaker 5: You know, Lebron clearly made the right decision on that,

471
00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,439
Speaker 5: but like him is the almost. And then Randy Moss

472
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,679
Speaker 5: was on campus in South Bend and we let him

473
00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,720
Speaker 5: get away. So we got some big what IF's there

474
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,720
Speaker 5: in the receiving core for Notre Dame.

475
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,200
Speaker 2: That would have been a movie in the making. Randy

476
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,359
Speaker 2: Moss at Notre Dame. I would, man, how long.

477
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,080
Speaker 4: Would have lasted? Four seconds?

478
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,600
Speaker 1: As long as right state says you two while for

479
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,199
Speaker 1: us right you know, yeah, he would not have last that.

480
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:20,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

481
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,360
Speaker 4: Now, man, it's it is. It is different. Up there.

482
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 5: Especially God, the minute, the minute the snow hits around there,

483
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,399
Speaker 5: you learn, uh, you learn a lot about yourself trudging

484
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 5: over to five a ms and a foot of snow

485
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:33,520
Speaker 5: in South Bend, Indiana.

486
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 3: That's not for me, bro, you feel me.

487
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 5: There were there were certain there were certain days where

488
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,560
Speaker 5: like you're sitting there, like, it's so funny to think

489
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 5: of now, like we'd be in my buddies buddies beat

490
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,639
Speaker 5: up hoopdee all there and all of our coats and

491
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,760
Speaker 5: stuff in the back because the A C barely works,

492
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 5: just praying to God that the alternator cut on so

493
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,119
Speaker 5: we could make it over to these workouts here and

494
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,359
Speaker 5: just looking around like, oh man, like my buddies that

495
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 5: came from California, that saw snow for the first time

496
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,239
Speaker 5: they came to South Bend.

497
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 4: I'm like, I.

498
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 5: Truly don't know how y'all made this decision to come

499
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 5: out here when I know what you've left now, Like,

500
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 5: especially I live in La now, so even more so.

501
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:13,919
Speaker 4: I'm like, what were you thinking?

502
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 2: Took that official visit on a crisp day in September

503
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,120
Speaker 2: when y'all were beating the hell out of somebody and

504
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 2: you know, oh, Okay, it's fifty five degrees. Shit, you know, damn,

505
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 2: look in the stadium looks great, and okay, I'm gonna sign. Okay, February,

506
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: I sign it. Go out there and meet the gu

507
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, yeah, fucking it's.

508
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 4: That Eatris Elba hot Ones.

509
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 6: Oh shit, how crazy is it seeing the kids now

510
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 6: how much bread they're making, and you were worrying about

511
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 6: an alternator.

512
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 4: They don't even have to know that word, you know

513
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 4: what I mean?

514
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 5: They just the place that it stood out the most

515
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 5: for me because I always used to love My favorite

516
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 5: transition in sports was the suits, because you would see

517
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 5: every year, like our guys, you'd have the end of

518
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 5: the season football banquet and guys will go up there

519
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 5: and they're Joseph a bank shit that they've got on

520
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 5: here and they're piecing together something. We're early instagram flicking

521
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 5: it up, thinking we all look sick. And then come

522
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 5: spring you'd see those same guys now that are getting

523
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 5: ready to be millionaires, who got front of all that

524
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 5: money by their agent, wearing the nice stuff. When I

525
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 5: saw Caleb Williams show up to the Heisman in the

526
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 5: Gucci suit, I was like, we have truly arrived in

527
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 5: the new era now where none of these guys are

528
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 5: ever gonna have to be out here with like cubic

529
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 5: Zarconium and all this other shit on here, Like we

530
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 5: got guys in Designer in college football now there. It's crazy, man,

531
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 5: But yeah, no, it's a different ball game, man. Like

532
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 5: I always said, if I like, I don't even know

533
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 5: what you do, because you guys know most of these

534
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,719
Speaker 5: college towns. I go back now and the number one

535
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 5: thing that jumps out is like if I go out

536
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 5: for a drink, like you get the bill and you're like, oh,

537
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 5: that's right. Like money, Like money's not an issue here,

538
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 5: Like nothing cost anything in South Bend, Indiana or in

539
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 5: Tuscle Loose.

540
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 4: So like I'd have been part owner of like three bars.

541
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 5: In South Bend, Michigan, Club, Fever Mission Club, you know,

542
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 5: easy anywhere. Like I'd still be turning keys on locks

543
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 5: at the end of the day around there right now,

544
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 5: just making sure it all worked like it would have

545
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 5: It would have been a problem to have that kind

546
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 5: of fun thing.

547
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 2: You'd be doing postgame interviews and like if you want

548
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: to talk further, I'll be at Gojo's Mojo's Cocktails, like.

549
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 5: I'd have been like Ritchie, Bobby and Talenting and Knights

550
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 5: here just pulling products out of nowhere.

551
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 3: Should we make fun of the Cowboys, gentlemen?

552
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, all right, yeah.

553
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 3: Tyler's family. Do you see how Tyler's face lit up?

554
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 4: It's like Christmas. It's one of my life, my life's passions.

555
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 2: The Cowboys have parted ways with Mike McCarthy and now

556
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: interviewing Kellen Moore, who was with the Cowboys and then

557
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: left the Cowboys in order to get a job interview

558
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 2: for the head coach of the Cowboys. You know, Jackson

559
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: said he couldn't believe it happened, and I think all

560
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: three of us looked at him and was like, what.

561
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: Is unbelievable about this? This is the this is the

562
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys feel. Yeah, Bro, I'm I mean, I think

563
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: this move makes us. Makes me come to the conclusion

564
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: that dionas was sure off the table, because I didn't

565
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: know if that was coach speech with Dion saying, you know,

566
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: I'm happy at Colorado blah blah blah. But I think

567
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: that that for sure means that Deon's off the table.

568
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 1: But them going, I don't, I don't know, bro, They

569
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: keep see. The whole thing about this is Jerry wants

570
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 1: yes men, right and if you're if you're you know,

571
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: going back to the Kellen Well here, I think that

572
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: speaks by him. I mean, that's there's a that's the

573
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: reason why he's stuck with he stuck with so many

574
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: mediaocre coaches for so long because he gets to push

575
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: their buttons and they get they listen to what he says. Right,

576
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, so listen, bro. Like I said, I don't

577
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are ever gonna be shipped until Jerry

578
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: goes on to that great old Yonder Bro and even then, even.

579
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 4: Then his son Stephen, he's it feels like.

580
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: A Raiders situation where where the game had passed Al

581
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: Davis by and it's like, okay, well Al might need

582
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: to you know, we might need a new regime here.

583
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: Then Mark came along and it's the same old Raiders.

584
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: I feel like the Cowboys are going to suffer that

585
00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: same fate.

586
00:23:59,720 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 3: Bro.

587
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 5: When Steven Jones came out with the when their takeaway

588
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 5: from the season was, you know, we might be paying

589
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 5: too many good players too much money here. Having all

590
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 5: of our cap allocated to these good players might not

591
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 5: be the way I was like, if that is your

592
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 5: takeaway after everything that we just went through, there might.

593
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: Be no help in this situation.

594
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 5: Man, There truly might be no help in it.

595
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: It is like, you know, this has been a year

596
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: for big stories about ownership groups like we got to

597
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: learn all about Brick Johnson, you know, with the with

598
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: with the Jets, and you know there's obviously the Bears

599
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: right now are interviewing forty different people for the head

600
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 2: coaching position. And our own, you know, still a family

601
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: owned business. We're We're I'm a Lakers fan. Lakers are

602
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: a mom and pop business that happens to be worth

603
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: like two billion dollars or ten billion dollars or whatever.

604
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 2: It is just this like fascinating dynamic. There's so many

605
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: millions of people who these teams may as well.

606
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: Be like part of the government. It's like part of their.

607
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: Like if you live in Dallas, the cowboys are that's

608
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: more important than who the mayor or whatever. And it's

609
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: just run by a guy and his kid. Like it's

610
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: like it's a guy that kind haven't figured it out.

611
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 3: You're fucked. You know.

612
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 5: When I got to Pittsburgh, I remember them saying, like

613
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 5: I did my rookie training camp with the Steelers, and

614
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 5: they're like, you're gonna run into Rooney's all over the city.

615
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 5: Like it's just that family is this city in the

616
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 5: same way they are that organization. So you're right, like

617
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 5: it is a league that like if you got into

618
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 5: the ground floor, it's a constantly appreciating asset that does

619
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 5: not punish you for going out here and being bad

620
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 5: at your job ever, like you can do it, Like

621
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 5: I think Mina pointed this out a while back, maybe

622
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 5: at her podcast or on one of the shows, Like

623
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 5: Jerry Jones gets all this credit for being a great

624
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 5: business man, like you don't have to do anything to

625
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 5: sell the NFL. You don't have to do anything to

626
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 5: sell these football teams, Like Jerry's good at getting attention.

627
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 5: But man, it's not like we act like we need

628
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 5: to act like this is overly difficult. That's why people

629
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 5: are going working hand over foot to try and just

630
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 5: buy little pieces of this.

631
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: Now, Jerry Jones's business innovation was selling a sponsorship to Pepsi.

632
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 2: The business innovation was we could put someone's name on

633
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: some shit and then but that was worth a hundred

634
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: billion dollars to all these teams, Like that's how easy

635
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: it is to like trip your way into nine figure

636
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 2: income like a fucking nuts, dude.

637
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 4: It is.

638
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 5: The crazy part is like no one seems to know

639
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 5: their teammate less than the Dallas Cowboys, Like to your

640
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 5: point about Calm Moore, like they had him in the building,

641
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 5: like and with Mike McCarthy taking him all the way

642
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 5: through that negotiating window.

643
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 4: You got to have been the building for five years.

644
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 5: What did you not know about Mike McCarthy up until

645
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 5: that point at the end.

646
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 4: What were you guys not talking about? Like it's every

647
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: version of this.

648
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 5: That's why, like Michael Parsons man strap in, this is

649
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 5: going to be a ride for you. Like if you

650
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 5: think for a minute that just because you have been

651
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 5: good at your job, then all of a sudden, it's

652
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 5: gonna go differently for you in Dallas. I just do

653
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,959
Speaker 5: not see a world where any part of what we

654
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 5: know about this organization leads me to believe that they're

655
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 5: just gonna pay him by the spring and have that

656
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 5: handled and it's all gonna be hunky dory.

657
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: Yeah. I never understood.

658
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 1: I never understood the Mike McCarthy hire to begin with,

659
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: where the main gripe against Jason Garrett was conservative play

660
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: caller who was underachieving with his quarterback. We got to

661
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: get him out of here, and you go get the

662
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: conservative play caller who was underachieving with Aaron Rodgers and

663
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: thinks he's gonna fix it. They went from hard Ease

664
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: to Carls Junior with that hire Dog.

665
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: It's the same shit. Like I've never understood it.

666
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: But like I said, it all comes down to Jerry

667
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: wants guys who are gonna fall in line and follow,

668
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: you know, his directors there bro, Like I said that

669
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: FREYD Dots is just never gonna be shipped until there's

670
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: a regime change in ownership Dog, which is probably never

671
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's gonna stand the Jones blood line forever.

672
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: Why would you sell it?

673
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? Right? Yeah?

674
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: Why like.

675
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: Right?

676
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I could continue to print money, My kid

677
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: could continue to print money, My grandkid could, Like, I

678
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: don't care if people don't like me. Who gives at

679
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm flying a helicopter to practice. What do I care

680
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: if people don't like me?

681
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 4: I say, did you see me on Landman? Look at

682
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 4: how cool that was.

683
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 5: Here's a nice distraction for you by the way he

684
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 5: was that was incredible.

685
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was in there with joham Man, fucking you know,

686
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 3: Bob and Weaven.

687
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 4: He did Yeah, he looked good.

688
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 3: Uh Okay.

689
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: My last question Gojo is, as we mentioned, you're the

690
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: co host of Gojo and Golck with your dad. How

691
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: did you get top billing on a show with your dad?

692
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: What was that conversation?

693
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 5: Like, Yeah, apparently we have the same agent, and apparently

694
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 5: he just likes me better. Like I don't know if

695
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 5: I'm nicer to him around the holidays or what, but

696
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 5: it just, uh, I think by nature of being there first,

697
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 5: because we were both at DraftKings and I had my

698
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 5: own show and Dad was on a different show and

699
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 5: we wanted to combine forces there. But to your point,

700
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 5: I have no idea how, and it shows that even

701
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 5: though I have done that the number of times I

702
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 5: go on other shows and they just instinctively like, oh yeah,

703
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 5: Golick and Gojo from eight to ten am Eastern Monday

704
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 5: through Friday, and I can't even correct him because I'm.

705
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 4: Like, that's that's that's how it should be.

706
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 5: Like this just this just happened. I don't know how.

707
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 5: I don't know why, and I'm not going to look

708
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 5: a gift horse in the mouth. But no, no, if you,

709
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 5: if anyone out there wants to call it goo Gojo,

710
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 5: that's the way it should be, because we are two

711
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 5: radio Hall of Fames to kneel right.

712
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: Now, goldn Gojo and Gojo and go Look they all

713
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: they both flow well right like I mean, the main

714
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: reason John got top billing on Jakins and Jones Jenks

715
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: and Jones just flows better than Jones and Jenkins, you know.

716
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 4: What I mean. So Jelson Dickins is like a law fer,

717
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Jones and Jenkins are staring

718
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: at me from the side of the highway, right right, right, right,

719
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: right right.

720
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: You've been in an accident injured by by five help

721
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: right right right.

722
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 4: I love that.

723
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you so much for hopping on obviously,

724
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: like we said, Gojo and go lick in that order

725
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: only available everywhere, and we appreciate it again and we'll

726
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: see you, super bro.

727
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 4: Thank you, appreciate, appreciate you.

728
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: Guys.

729
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go puke into a garbage can until Monday

730
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 4: night for this day. Good luck man, see you guys.

731
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: He just he just said where he's in Louisiana right

732
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: now because they're doing food like a like a food

733
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 2: tour for some content. Ship Bro, I've never been more

734
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: jealous of another human being in my life.

735
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 4: Damn a food tour.

736
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: They're doing a New Orleans he did, like a New

737
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: Orleans like food tour for some stuff. They're gonna because

738
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: the super bowls down there, so there is like content

739
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: for the super Bowl or whatever.

740
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: It's like, damn Bro, that's sponsored by Thumbs. He was

741
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: sponsored by Thumbs also.

742
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: And he's paid to do this, Like, damn Bro, that's

743
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: something to sign up for.

744
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 6: Like, that's right, I'm doing the food tour in New

745
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 6: Orleans when I visit.

746
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

747
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: The man gets paid to talk sports with his pops

748
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: and go on food tours.

749
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: What on what?

750
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: Obviously we're on the outside looking at it.

751
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: He and his dad appear to have like the healthiest

752
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 2: relationship of any two father and sons in sports also,

753
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: which which is fucking great. All right, Uh, what should

754
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 2: we talk about?

755
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened?

756
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: What's going on?

757
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 3: So one lawsuit gone?

758
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: I love that he gave just enough time for his

759
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: fans to pretend that that was like a significant moment

760
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: before he came and dropped an even dumber lawsuit for

761
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: defamation for.

762
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: Promoting you know what I mean? Fuck?

763
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 7: You mean.

764
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: He studies rat battles for a living.

765
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: No, we need we need some reggae horns for every

766
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: time we get a new drake losses newdra.

767
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 6: I feel I feel like, how the fuck did we

768
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 6: let this nigga hold that position?

769
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 4: That's where we're at right now. For sure.

770
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 6: I'm like, bruh, you know what I'm saying. We had

771
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 6: the fucking we saw who he was, you know.

772
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 4: What I mean? But like, like, how did we let

773
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 4: him be there that long?

774
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 6: A nigga that gets in a rap battle and nigga,

775
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 6: it's mad that the dude did the same thing that

776
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 6: he did to the dude better than him. You said,

777
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 6: the man beat us, beat his wife, and these kids

778
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 6: weren't his You feel what I'm saying. And he was like,

779
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 6: you're a pedophile and niggas fucking dude fucking backflips to

780
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 6: it in the club that mother.

781
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: You can't do that. That's not fair. I hate him,

782
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: I do.

783
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 6: I like, like at first I was like, yo, like

784
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 6: he's a bitch whatever. I feel like he's bad like

785
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 6: he's bad for rap. He is bad for this fucking

786
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 6: this cultural.

787
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 7: Sorry, baby boys, baby boy's calling me right in the

788
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 7: middle of Hey get the band all together. He was

789
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 7: there for the last time. I feel like he's bad for.

790
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: Right right, it's night in the morning on January sixteenth,

791
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: the time to.

792
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 4: Talk about drakes. Are you ready? Then?

793
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 6: You say, nigga, it's time, But I think he's I don't.

794
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: I don't want my son.

795
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 6: I don't want my son listening to rap influenced by

796
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 6: this nigga. I don't want my daughter listening to rapping

797
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 6: flud by this weirdo ass nigga. You know what I'm saying,

798
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 6: This is not the rap we grew up on. It's

799
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 6: not the rap you say you fucking love. You know

800
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, A dude a defamation lawsuit because somebody

801
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 6: did what people do in rap battles.

802
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: It's okay.

803
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: So so his his initial lawsuit, he with the drew

804
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: from that.

805
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: Right.

806
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: The initial lawsuit was alleging that there was you know,

807
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: shady juicing of streaming numbers by UMG. He withdrew that,

808
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: and you and G basically said in legal lees, we

809
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: accept your withdrawal. But our initial stance that these cusations

810
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: were bullshit, we're still standing on that.

811
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 4: That was what they said in legally is on that.

812
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: So then he goes to the defamation where his angle

813
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: on the defamation ship is Okay, why did y'all let

814
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: him talk about me like this?

815
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 6: Y'all if you promote this song that he was talking

816
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 6: about me, why did you do your job?

817
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 4: Go ahead?

818
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's he's not gonna win this. You are

819
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: asking a record label, why did they get behind a

820
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: worldwide smash? How are you gonna win that?

821
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: Dog? Like, I just don't know what the endgame here

822
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: is with this, dude.

823
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: You're not gonna win this ship, and all you're doing

824
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 1: is looking like the biggest fucking sucker in rap history.

825
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 6: No hyperbole, no no exaggeration. We said we're gonna call

826
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 6: niggas bitches. If anybody's supposed to be a bitch, is

827
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 6: this nigga? You look like the biggest bitch in the

828
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 6: history of fucking rap. The dog, bro, I've never seen

829
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 6: anything like this. I'm like, like you said, what's the endgame?

830
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 6: What is the purpose?

831
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: Bro? We laughed at you with the first one. This

832
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 4: is even more laughable. You didn't, you.

833
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: Outsucker the most sucker shit we'd already seen.

834
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: You. Feel me like, bro, what is what? What is

835
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: the purpose? And I feel like he's so desperate.

836
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 6: I'm taking everybody with you. Know what I'm saying he's

837
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 6: so desperate is like, I don't give a fuck. I'm

838
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 6: gona try to get something out of this ship. I

839
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,959
Speaker 6: want to I'm going after u n g. I'm going

840
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 6: after this nigga. You just look like a fucking lane. Bro,

841
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 6: You're the only one losing in this situation. It's crazy,

842
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 6: the man said.

843
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: The man said that that the release of Not Like

844
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: Us had him fearing for his safety.

845
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 6: There is a part in that documentkay, what was that?

846
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 4: What was that wording?

847
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: The man said that that the release of Not Like

848
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: Us had him fearing for his safety. There is a

849
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: part in that deposition where he's where they type out.

850
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar stated whah wah wah wah, insinuating he was

851
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: gonna punch straight repeatedly.

852
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: Oh you he really is? You whole ass nigga, You

853
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: whole ass nigga. You the nigga talking about sliming niggas

854
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 4: out in rap music. Now, I thought you was hard.

855
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 4: Fuck nigga. You know what I'm saying. You know what

856
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 4: I'm saying, sticks and stones and break my ball's words

857
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 4: and never hurt me. Nigga.

858
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 6: You heard that shit? Goofy ass, Nigga. You know what

859
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 6: I'm saying that nigga.

860
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: Was hurt over wah wah wah wah wah wah.

861
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 6: Had him waking up at him. But of the night

862
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 6: and coach. You know what I'm saying, Nigga, what the

863
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 6: fuck is wrong with you? G? Like something like dog

864
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 6: and people are taking his money, like these lawyers are

865
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 6: making so much money over him cooking himself, Like where's

866
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 6: some pr folks, because the lawyers go ahead.

867
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 2: He was the rapper who, like part of his brand

868
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: was this is rap that lawyers can listen to, you

869
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like like I like, it's like

870
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: like a white collar type rap. Right, and the lawyer

871
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: are over here laughing at you because this is the

872
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 2: most preposterous lawsuit, Like UMG put a statement out saying

873
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: you did the same shit we promoted your music saying

874
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: shit that wasn't true, because that's what music is like.

875
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: And the First Amendment in this country makes it such

876
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: that you can't sue someone. You can't sue the newspaper

877
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: for publishing something that wasn't true. You can't sue a

878
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: book publisher for publishing a book that said something about you.

879
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: Those are the cases that when you have to prove

880
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 2: that there was malicious intent, that they knew they were lying,

881
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: like not just they didn't know it was true or not,

882
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: but that they knew they were lying, that they were

883
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: trying like all this other shit, it's never gonna happen.

884
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: And I feel like, to Tyler's point, it makes it

885
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: even worse that you're suing UMG instead of Kendrick, like

886
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: I actually would. Yeah, I actually think it's worse because

887
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: you're suing him for like, how could you let him

888
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: say that about me? Like, you're not You're not even

889
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: suing the we called you a pedophile doing someone for

890
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: letting him do it.

891
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a move to cover

892
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: his ass because he's because when with him UMG instead

893
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: of Kendrick, that is a move where he does not

894
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: have to disprove the allegations levied against him.

895
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: He just has to ask UMG allegations.

896
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 3: And how does that sound? Tyler?

897
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds. It sounds like the shit, which is.

898
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: All I don't want to go to corner for proving

899
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm not a pedophile.

900
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to do that.

901
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, I want to read that statement that UMG

902
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: dropped because they cooked the fuck out his ass.

903
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: Okay, so the second best is the third best song

904
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 3: in the RAT battle.

905
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, so YUMEGI says, not only

906
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: are these claims untrue, but the notion that we would

907
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: seek to harm the reputation of any artists, let alone Drake,

908
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: is illogical. We have invested massively in his music, and

909
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: our employees around the world have worked tirelessly for many

910
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: years to help him achieve historic commerce and personal financial success.

911
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: Throughout his career, Drake has in Okay, this is the

912
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: paragraph right here, the lock in. Throughout his career, Drake

913
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: has intentionally and successfully use UMG to distribute his music

914
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: and poetry, to engage in conventionally outrageous back and forth

915
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: quotation marks here Rat battles to express his feelings about

916
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: other artists. He now seeks to weaponize the legal process

917
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: to silence an artist creative expression and to seek damages

918
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: from UMG for distributing that artist's music. We have not

919
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: and do not, engage in defamation against any individual. At

920
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: the same time, we will vigorously defend this litigation to

921
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: protect our people and our reputation, as well as any

922
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: artists who may directly or indirectly become a frivolous litigation

923
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 1: target for having done nothing more than write a song.

924
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: So basically, what UMG said there was, bro, why would

925
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: we sabotage you If we fuck up your money, we

926
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: fuck up our money.

927
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: The fact is you've been.

928
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Running around like you pop and you got your ass

929
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: smacked up, and now you're pulling this bullshit.

930
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: Get the fuck out of here.

931
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: That's exactly what you MG said right there though, And

932
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: good for them, because fuck this lawsuit, fu Drinke.

933
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 4: Fuck everything about this.

934
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 6: The foundation like how we got how I got introduced

935
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 6: in the rap's this ship I'm talking shit about I'm

936
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 6: better than you, nigga. You know what I'm saying You

937
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 6: this you that you like this is like this is

938
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 6: such a huge part of rap that you are.

939
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 4: Like this law suit like it's it's almost like the.

940
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: Lotty rap battles for a little bit.

941
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 6: You said this, it's it's it's nigga like this is

942
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 6: a huge part of the culture.

943
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 4: Ge like this is it nigga and you like this is.

944
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 6: What I I don't understand how he feels like this

945
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 6: will benefit him the long run as somebody that's supposed

946
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 6: to make music. But I kind of feel like everything

947
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 6: he's dropped has fucking been a and nobody gave us

948
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 6: single fuck about nothing he's dropped at most.

949
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: Only people.

950
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 6: Only reason we know this shit exists cause niggas was

951
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 6: laughing at it and maybe he sees the shit is

952
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 6: over and it's just pure desperation because the end goal

953
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 6: doesn't make sense. If you're trying to be it could

954
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 6: get get get the throne back. It's like the throne's gone.

955
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 6: I'm not that nigga no more, but I'm taking the

956
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 6: whole shit with me. Well, nigga, we don't give a

957
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 6: fuck about you enough. Take your ass on somewhere.

958
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: Nigga. You look it fucking stupid.

959
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 6: You can't take the whole shit, you know what I'm saying,

960
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 6: The fuck we don't care about you like that.

961
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 4: Fuck nigga crazy. I just don't understand this shit.

962
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 5: The chat said, Miles said losing the battle and suing

963
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 5: the label in a contract year.

964
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 4: Drake fumbling the bag worse than Sam Darnold Damn money

965
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: off fire had caught him. Aubrey Darnald in the chair

966
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 4: at same Aubrey.

967
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 6: I wonder what that contrac go look like because it can't.

968
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 6: What's what's next is like, what's next after this? Like,

969
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 6: what's next after doing all this?

970
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: Ship talking about Sam Donald or Drake?

971
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 6: I don't about Sam Donald, nigga. I couldn't point him

972
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 6: out in the lineup. I just know he's white. That's

973
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 6: that's the white ass name, right, Cool? You know what

974
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 6: I'm saying. That's about it. I know about MG.

975
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: You feel me?

976
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 6: But nah, Like, I'm like, what what do you do

977
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 6: after this? After all of this? If you just took

978
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 6: the l you still probably could be with umget get

979
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 6: some big money.

980
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 4: Right.

981
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 6: The fact that you're going about it like this, going

982
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 6: out like a hole, doing the dumbest lame as whack

983
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 6: at whole ast. Fuck shit, bitches, shit I've ever seen

984
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 6: in fucking rap. You know what I'm saying, Where is

985
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 6: your guard?

986
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 4: After this? You can't call yourself a rapper no more? Nigga?

987
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 4: You feel me?

988
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

989
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

990
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: I think I think with a lot of rap fans,

991
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: myself included, are gonna take away from this battle and

992
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: from you know, the fallout from the battle, is this right, Like,

993
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever reach a consensus on what

994
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: is the quote on qu vote best distrack in rap history?

995
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 4: I think that's subjective.

996
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: People have, you know, different tastes, different preferences, So we're

997
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: never gonna like, all the way alne on.

998
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: What's the quote unquote best distrack in rap history?

999
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: But with Not like us, there are some objective truths here,

1000
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: regardless of where you think it ranks in the pantheon

1001
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: of this tracks that just you just can't deny about this.

1002
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: And the fact of the matter is, we never saw

1003
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: a Dish track that was this big of a hit.

1004
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: We never saw a this track that was this big

1005
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: of like a global cultural phenomenon. We never saw a

1006
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: dis track that owned the whole summer like Not like

1007
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: Us did. And with the way that we have seen

1008
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: Drake spiraling crash out, we are the way Strake just

1009
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: just losing his shit over this, we can say that

1010
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: we have never ever in rap history seen a dis

1011
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: track that this matter its opponent as thoroughly as not

1012
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: like us did to Drake like I think that's an

1013
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: indisputable fact at this point, that shit hit Drake so

1014
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: hard the nigga made a dish track for of liking.

1015
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 4: It like dog.

1016
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: And with the way that that Drake is smiling right

1017
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: with every lawsuit, with all the ship that we're seeing

1018
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: with this dude, it just further emphasizes the stance that

1019
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: Kendrick took all along the point he was making, Bro,

1020
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: you are not like us, and this motherfucker is not

1021
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: like us. Lawsuits, litigation, Bro, that ship is not hip hop.

1022
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: That ship has never happened in rap. Ever's your corny

1023
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: ass came along.

1024
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 6: You got hit, pushed in the face and ran to

1025
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 6: the police, ran to the law. Nigga, you got hit

1026
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 6: in the face.

1027
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 4: Take the take the air, move on. You got hit

1028
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 4: in the face and ran to the law.

1029
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 6: That's the exact opposite of everything motherfucker said that. I

1030
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 6: just I just don't I truly don't see what he

1031
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 6: can do within.

1032
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: Rap after this, try like him Lobbrary certified lawyer, boy

1033
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: off out and sue niggas. Boy, I don't know what

1034
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: to bring the suits to you. You didn't run a

1035
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: distract nigga. I've been waiting for Dak to say my

1036
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: niggas speaking of Drake, you know, shout on my motherucking

1037
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: on social media.

1038
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 4: He puts streamers in the on the docket.

1039
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: In the lawsuits.

1040
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, speak please plain. Guess the means I thought

1041
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 6: niggas was just joking and.

1042
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 4: It's legit. He put not in it. He put our

1043
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 4: d C you know, shout out to the homie, Mark Phillips.

1044
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: He put on what's the holy name.

1045
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: Broke life Shock or something like that, because because that

1046
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: dude shot back at Drake and flamed his ass.

1047
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: Brought John. He's not suing them. They're in the lawsuits.

1048
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he is shooting suing streamers for making reaction

1049
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: videos to not like us. Well, not suing streamers, he

1050
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: is including them in the docket because he says them

1051
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: making reaction videos to not like us.

1052
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: It was like boosting not like us and A and

1053
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 4: A and in moral way, that's nasty.

1054
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: Brof bro After you get all that ship, we remember

1055
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: when Family Matters dropped and you d m Todd Snott

1056
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: and said stay on stream family. You know, I got

1057
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: some ship that's gonna drop. And now you're putting this

1058
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: motherfucker in the court dock and saying he did you wrong. See,

1059
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: this is why, this is why I didn't feel bathroom

1060
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: when he had that fall out with Lebron, because that's

1061
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: some Hollywood ship and drink with Hollywood.

1062
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: The motherfucker just as quick as as Lebron Hollywood. You know,

1063
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: so fuck that.

1064
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 6: But maybe Broun saw the hole in him. Yeah, I mean,

1065
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 6: you feel me like around enough, and he got Savanna

1066
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 6: aroun him too.

1067
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 4: And you know she did see that. She saw that

1068
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 4: ship three and a half miles away. You know what

1069
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 4: I'm saying. She probably know that nigga through the screen.

1070
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: That's a bitch.

1071
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 6: Stay around my family, nigga, You feel what I'm saying.

1072
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 6: And you saw she'd be looking at my all them

1073
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 6: images that show dog. So I ain't mad at it.

1074
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 6: Bro anyway you can get around separate yourself from a

1075
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 6: nigga like that.

1076
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 4: It's crazy. Do that? Do that?

1077
00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: Please? Do that?

1078
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But I just I just

1079
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 4: I don't I have I have no idea what the

1080
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 4: purpose of any of this is.

1081
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 3: This is the question I want to ask you, guys.

1082
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: And I know that your inclination is going to be

1083
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 2: to say, I don't want to try and think like Drake,

1084
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: but I really would love for you to try to

1085
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: answer because this is how I process things, and I

1086
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: have truly.

1087
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 3: Gotten nowhere in the last twenty four hours.

1088
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 4: What is he thinking?

1089
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: Because any person a ten year old could tell you

1090
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: this is going to fuck you up in wrap and

1091
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: a ten year old could tell you it's gonna.

1092
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: Fuck you up in the courts too.

1093
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: You are more likely to get sued, to get countersued

1094
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: for a frivolous lawsuit and lose that that you are

1095
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 2: to win the lawsuit you're making.

1096
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: So what is like, what is he thinking?

1097
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 6: What is gonna get sued for defamation by suing for

1098
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 6: defamation like you're trying to do fame us actually by

1099
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying is that is that what you're.

1100
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: Saying, you could easily get countersued by UMG for a

1101
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: frivolous lawsuit over this ship. No lawyer in a mayor

1102
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: should have filed that when the First Amendment exists. It

1103
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: is truly like, you know, people could talk about the

1104
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: one defamation lawsuit you saw that was public was the

1105
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: Fox News lost that big lawsuit to the I forget

1106
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: the name of the company, the polling machine company.

1107
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 3: Whatever, this would this would not even be like that.

1108
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: This would be like if that company sued direct TV

1109
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: for putting Fox News on the air, it would get

1110
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: thrown out of court.

1111
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1112
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: He's not even suing Kendrick for like you lied on

1113
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: me on purpose. You're suing someone for the structure of

1114
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: the music industry.

1115
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 6: I think he's I think he thought by suing Umg,

1116
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 6: he could pretend and hide behind the fact that I'm

1117
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 6: trying to take up with a little guy or some shit,

1118
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. I think he thought he

1119
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 6: if he sued, if he's sued Kendrick, it would be

1120
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 6: like Nigga, like, UMG is this would be bad. But

1121
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 6: it matched if he's sue Kendrick, like there's absolutely no

1122
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 6: coming back from that, right, Like I'm suing you for

1123
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 6: that's this ship. There's no coming back from me.

1124
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 4: But he thought he could.

1125
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 6: He thought he could we seeing that what I'm trying

1126
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 6: to see, Like, what did he think before this was said?

1127
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: In what did he think was gonna happen?

1128
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 6: After the first ship? After the first ship? And we

1129
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 6: laughed at him and he goes through this is weirder.

1130
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 6: I honestly feel like he knows it's over. He did

1131
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 6: the dred, he did the I'm gonna go after Lebron shit.

1132
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 6: Niggas laugh at him, called him a hole again. He

1133
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 6: been called a hole for six months straight. Dog, he

1134
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 6: knows it's over with you feel what I'm saying. So

1135
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 6: now I feel like he's just trying to take everything

1136
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 6: down that he can, like I'm taking you into it,

1137
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 6: but he he thinks he's more pay We don't care,

1138
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 6: and we don't care that and you probably nasty. So

1139
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 6: the music business is evil, you know what I'm saying.

1140
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 6: They probably nastiest shit. But the nigga you was step

1141
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 6: by step and step with the motherfuckers for ten years, nigga,

1142
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 6: fuck you.

1143
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We don't care about you

1144
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 4: like that, nigga go by You know what I'm saying.

1145
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the only way this halfway makes

1146
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: sense is if this if you think this is perhaps

1147
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: a last ditch desperation. He just stopped Kendrick from performing

1148
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: not like us at the super Bowl, and and and

1149
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: bro and and and and and if that's what you're

1150
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: doing that. That is a fool's Errand because if you

1151
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: think the NFL is gonna censor Kendrick on on the

1152
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: you think the NFL is gonna take a stance on

1153
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: morality here, you think the NFL is gonna do that,

1154
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: And Kenchick ain't coming off his square.

1155
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1156
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: Kenchack ain't gonna back down. That ship is gonna get performed.

1157
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: And you just look like a sucker here if that

1158
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: was his angle there, but I don't know, there's no

1159
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: reading this, dude. It's just like I said, the biggest

1160
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 1: sucker move and wrap his three dogs.

1161
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 2: Is he gonna do like the environmentalists do if they

1162
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: like chain themselves to the trees? Is he is Drake

1163
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: gonna like chain himself across the doors of the Superdome Like, no,

1164
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 2: you can't let it in.

1165
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 3: That's not right.

1166
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 4: I just I just this is the thing. This is

1167
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 4: what I think because I'm trying to like it doesn't

1168
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 4: none of none of this makes sense. Right.

1169
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 6: When somebody's desperate, they move in ways that don't make sense.

1170
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 6: The only definition, the only way to define to find

1171
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 6: what he's why he's doing this is because of that's worst.

1172
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 6: He's just desperate. He's a nigga that was lame as fuck.

1173
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 6: We saw him and in front of some white women

1174
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 6: talking about something. These they're they're just ignorant. That's a

1175
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 6: nigga that ain't never got He's saying, shit, you.

1176
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 4: Doing, nigga, you got you gotta say sit like that

1177
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 4: the crack nigga.

1178
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 6: You was a fuck nigga from the womb. Bitch you

1179
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 6: came out of bitch. You know, you never had a

1180
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 6: fucking chance. And he knew it, and he sucked around

1181
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 6: and fell into the the to be the coldest rapper

1182
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 6: in the world. You know, or or or perceived is that?

1183
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 6: And now he can't let that go. He can't let

1184
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 6: it go. So he's doing the dumbest shit because he's

1185
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 6: just desperate. What he you know what I'm saying, what

1186
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 6: made him him was being that nigga. He wasn't that

1187
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 6: nigga prior.

1188
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 4: He wasn't cold. He was that ro exactly. You know

1189
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

1190
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 6: It's an insecure motherfucker that got to light of the

1191
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 6: world for ten fucking years. Now you gotta deal with

1192
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 6: who the fuck you really are? Nigga to live with

1193
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,479
Speaker 6: that for the next thirty forty years of your life.

1194
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Wherever the fuck Yeah, look

1195
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 6: yourself in the mirror and say you was a bitch.

1196
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 6: That's the first thing. Admit to yourself, your issues, the

1197
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 6: foundation of who you are is whole shit.

1198
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 4: That's where you gotta start, nigga, and then you can

1199
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 4: move forward. But he just he did. He don't want

1200
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 4: to do that shit. So he's fighting, fighting, fighting, nigga.

1201
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 4: It's just he's just desperate. It's nasty. It's nasty.

1202
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 6: It's and like I said, I said, I kind of

1203
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 6: see where he came from with the lebron and all

1204
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 6: that and the other nigga fuck everything.

1205
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: At this point, fuck you know you you were, you

1206
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: were looking through the lens of that as you being

1207
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: a solid dude and assuming Drake was solid to.

1208
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: And he is not. Bro.

1209
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 3: He just couldn't. He couldn't.

1210
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 4: I wasn't listening.

1211
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 6: I don't expect like I'm gonna be solid with a nigga.

1212
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 6: That's a bitch, you know what I'm saying, Like you

1213
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 6: feel me like I'm gonna be solid because I want

1214
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 6: to be solid. You feel me so like you we

1215
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 6: know what happened with uh with Bomani and Old Boy?

1216
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 6: What's what's all boy name?

1217
00:52:59,040 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: Uh?

1218
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 6: Uh? Uh? Dose caramels, skin, peanut butter those fucking yeah

1219
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 6: yeah that dude. We know what happened between them niggas, right,

1220
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 6: they've talked to It's been talked about you feel me,

1221
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 6: but Bomani refused to shoot on him because of Bomani's

1222
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 6: fuck you feel me?

1223
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 4: And that's how I feel, you know what I mean

1224
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: With with Brian, you know what I mean, but like,

1225
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 4: and I kind of was like, damn, he ain't do that.

1226
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 4: But fuck it. This this is the this is the

1227
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 4: worst type of nigga, bro, you know what I'm saying.

1228
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: You know, got going back to what you said, John,

1229
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: I feel it feels like like Drake's downfall here that

1230
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: all started with not like us. It feels like some

1231
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: some Greek tragedy ship where you know, in Greek tragedies,

1232
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: the character's greatest strength turns into his tragic flaw. And

1233
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: we've discussed before how like Drake has always wanted to

1234
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: be all things to all people and it worked so

1235
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: well for him for so long, Like he wanted to

1236
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: be the king of the charts, making these monster singles,

1237
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: and he wanted to be a rappers, rapper getting.

1238
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 4: Approval of all these other prestigious rappers.

1239
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: And where he fucked up is he wanted to be

1240
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: the dude who was known to get in the trenches

1241
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 1: and get busy with his battleship. And bro that ultimately

1242
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: proved to be his undoing here because buddy, you.

1243
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 4: Are not that guy. You are a pop rapper.

1244
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: He caught that body against Meek and got full of himself, right,

1245
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: and he switched his whole tune when it came to

1246
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 1: battling after that Meek battle, because with the Meek battle,

1247
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: he was not on this tough guy shit. He won

1248
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: that battle with means and social media interaction, and then

1249
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: he switched his whole shit up after that, right, like

1250
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: he puffed his chest out and he wanted to show

1251
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: people that he was more thorough than pusha te and

1252
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: and and and and dudes like that who really got

1253
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: it out the mud. He got on this tough guy

1254
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: ship and he wanted to show people that he was

1255
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: more thorough than a dude from Virginia Beach who made

1256
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: it out of drug dealing and a dude who made

1257
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: it out of confident, and he got bodied both times decisively.

1258
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: Ship wasn't even closed though, and and and and and bro.

1259
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: It just it just all comes down to God that

1260
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: that's not you. You ain't get it off the mud.

1261
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: You're a child actor from this suburbs of Canada. That's

1262
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: who you are.

1263
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 4: Big. You know what would have been best for him?

1264
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 6: If he would have lost that battle with me mm

1265
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 6: hmm he lost, he would still be He would still

1266
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 6: be solid right now because he still know he's a

1267
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 6: lame ass nigga that you know what I'm saying.

1268
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: Meek would not have known how to get everything out

1269
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: of it that Kendrick.

1270
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 4: Has got so but like exactly, he couldn't have made

1271
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 4: not like us.

1272
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 3: He wouldn't be you know what I'm saying, He wouldn't be.

1273
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 6: He exactly he felt when he beat me. It made

1274
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 6: him lie to himself in the mirror. He was able

1275
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 6: to lie to himself and believe something that wasn't true.

1276
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1277
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 3: He should have looked down at the bro.

1278
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 4: Like that motherfucking brochure. Yeah.

1279
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: Like, like like I said before, Bro, we got to

1280
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: reevaluate that meet went on strength to schedule. I'm not

1281
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: rewriting history up, like I said, I'm not like I said,

1282
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: hear me, yeah, yeah, hear me out. I am not

1283
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: rewriting history. He bodied me. That was a body bag.

1284
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: But from what we know now about me, he's not.

1285
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: He's not the brightest crayon in the in the crayon box,

1286
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: right like And like I said, I'm not rewriting history.

1287
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 1: That was a body But that's like a win against

1288
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: a team that was ranked number six and they finished

1289
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: the season, you know, five and eight and don't get

1290
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: invited in any bowl games.

1291
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 4: That's what that win was.

1292
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I.

1293
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: Mean, I think the other thing to get to give

1294
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: Drake credit for what you y'all were talking about the

1295
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: length of the rain, he was great at controlling the narrative,

1296
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 2: but also the narrative was controllable in the time that

1297
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: he grew up with the Internet and the early social

1298
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: media days. The early days of the Internet, you could

1299
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 2: point it at things, you could point it in a direction.

1300
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: You could write yourself a role as this type of

1301
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 2: a rapper and play it in I'm gonna go on

1302
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 2: this show because that's the way to get to this

1303
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: audience or whatever else. The Internet is a fucking tiger

1304
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 2: out of the cage at this point. Bro, there's no like,

1305
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 2: you know, between all the conspiracy theories and and everything else,

1306
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 2: Like you can't tweet two plus two is four and

1307
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 2: get universal agreement on that, right.

1308
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 3: So I just think it's too big.

1309
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's too big for our political leaders, just

1310
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: too big for everybody right now.

1311
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 3: But you can't, like, you know, like Tyler was saying,

1312
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 3: you can't.

1313
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: Just DM the right three people right now and the

1314
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: narrative goes your way in the way that it did

1315
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: for him for so long.

1316
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 3: And I think that he is in the same way.

1317
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: Our federal government and the global economic everyone's trying to

1318
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: figure out how to move in that and Drake, you know,

1319
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: study a little longer before moving.

1320
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 6: And I just feel like like what Kendrick said was true,

1321
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 6: Like he aligned with people who were tough and said

1322
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 6: tough things next to them, and it made him believe

1323
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 6: he was actually tough. Nigga, You was just with a

1324
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 6: nigga that people didn't want to fight. They would have

1325
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 6: beat your ass though, Nigga, you know what I'm saying.

1326
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 6: If it was just you, you feel what I'm saying,

1327
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 6: So you could say that tough shit with a nigga

1328
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 6: that niggas didn't want to fuck with. And that's I

1329
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 6: think what he and he started believing he was the guy.

1330
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 6: So when when Pussy came to them with ship, I've

1331
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 6: been talking like this, niggas, let me get away with this.

1332
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 4: I'm a nigga.

1333
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 6: Bro, don't nobody believe that you know, a real one

1334
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 6: step in the room and he killing your ass and

1335
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 6: then Kendrick Bro, No, it's over with Bro. Like different

1336
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 6: level of stardom, same level. I would say, similar level

1337
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 6: of stardom. I would say Kendrick at his best is

1338
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 6: equal to fucking Drake stardom. Fuck the I wouldn't know.

1339
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 6: I would say Kendrick at his best is better than

1340
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 6: Drake started. I feel like a bigger star.

1341
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 4: No, I think I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

1342
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, okay, what I mean, Kendrick has

1343
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: always been decisively number two as far as worldwide.

1344
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,479
Speaker 6: Okay, cool, cool, But I remember, I ain't talking about

1345
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 6: I ain't talking about I ain't talking about. I'm just

1346
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 6: talking about who's done with Kendrick is done. When it

1347
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 6: came to like just a rap, he dropped the control

1348
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 6: rap verse set the whole game. It's a verse nigga,

1349
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 6: the verse with uh with uh that that he dropped,

1350
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 6: throwing and throwing like I'm not, I'm not.

1351
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 4: It's not Big three, it's Big me woof lit that

1352
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 4: motherfuck up? You know what I'm saying. And this is

1353
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 4: like he tries he canna do shit and drop a

1354
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: verse in the whole rap game is talking about this shit.

1355
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 4: You feel me? So I would say this is masterful

1356
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 4: at creating moments for sure.

1357
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 6: I was, yes, So I would say he can garner

1358
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 6: attention and and take advantage of a moment better than anybody,

1359
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And I feel like this moment, Bro,

1360
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 6: you want to beget that nigga who was better at

1361
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 6: rapping than you, who is actually what the fuck he

1362
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 6: say he is, and who could get on stage with

1363
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 6: some real bids that can vouch for this ship in

1364
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 6: front of the world, and you just out here.

1365
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Bro, you had no chance.

1366
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 6: But what happened was you believe you was tough because

1367
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 6: you were saying tough shit next to tough people.

1368
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you lie to yourself. I really think if

1369
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 4: he lost that meg battle and he didn't take that

1370
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 4: left turn. He still be rapping, you know what I'm saying, And.

1371
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: That's exactly how he lost that battle. How Kendrick won

1372
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: this one on authenticity. Like you mentioned, he was hanging

1373
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: around tough guys. I was thinking he WASNA, No, that

1374
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: ain't you, Bro. You ain't get it out the money.

1375
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: You are a child actor from the suburbs of Canada.

1376
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 4: That's who you are.

1377
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: And I want to be clear, this isn't me saying

1378
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: that you got to come from the struggle to be

1379
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: like a Surfi Stan right right right. I don't subscribe

1380
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: to that. Some of my favorite rappers ever did not

1381
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: come from the struggle, like Bro. I got a Try

1382
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: Call Quest album cover hanging up behind me, and those

1383
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: are some middle class kids from Queens right, and they

1384
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: made some of my favorite rat music of all time.

1385
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: But you don't have to be a tough guy from

1386
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: the hood to be a legit rapper. What you have

1387
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: to be, though, is genuine. You have to be yourself,

1388
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: and Drake is someone who has always struggled with authenticity.

1389
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: We all roll our eyes whenever he starts talking that

1390
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: mob tied shit. Bro, that ain't you but I tell you,

1391
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what is you though this litigation lawsuit shit,

1392
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: that's who you really are here, it goes the suburban

1393
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: child actor from Canada.

1394
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 4: That's him. We knew you'd come out sooner or later,

1395
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 4: and that's who you really are.

1396
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: Though you are not the dude who who's in your

1397
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: wrap stucking all this tough guy mob shit. You're a

1398
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: motherfucker who'll be like, oh, you hurt my feelings.

1399
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 4: I'm suing. That's who you really are. Dog. I mean, Frank,

1400
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 4: you ran the mom, That's what you did.

1401
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: Sinatra would at least beat a dude up for himself,

1402
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like Sinatra would at least

1403
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: stop a guy out off his own ship or at

1404
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 2: least just take the ass whom You know what I'm saying, Frank,

1405
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: But I feel you.

1406
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying this. I'm just saying Frank a brother, not Frank.

1407
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 6: And with respect to Frank, I'm just saying, like, I

1408
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 6: feel like, if you really nigga niggas get they ass

1409
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 6: beat you take ls. You know what I'm saying, if

1410
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 6: you grew up in the way he grew up and

1411
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 6: he never had to take l's like that it's hard

1412
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 6: to you know, at this level doing that.

1413
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 4: But Bro, niggas take ls, eat them, keep moving.

1414
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 6: Bro, understand when it's l just you know what I'm saying,

1415
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 6: Like he just can't accept it, you know what I mean,

1416
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 6: He's never had to deal.

1417
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 4: With no shit for real.

1418
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: It's just like off what Tyler was saying. Even even

1419
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: while he was still the number one rapper in the world,

1420
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: it was still a running joke that he would adopt

1421
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: different sense.

1422
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: At Shang Sung Shang Sung a rap, that's what they

1423
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,439
Speaker 1: called him though, you know, saying something for mortal combat,

1424
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: who could switch into any character?

1425
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, use yeah, yeah.

1426
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: So you know that was the best case version that was,

1427
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 2: Like people were aware of that about him even while

1428
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: he was on top.

1429
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 3: So some of attacks authenticity, it's kind of.

1430
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,919
Speaker 4: Tough to be like which which which which? Which? Drake?

1431
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: Are we talking about here? Are we talking about actual

1432
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: beats Drake? Are we talking about you know, Caribbean twoes?

1433
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 4: Drake? Are we talking about tough guy rap Drake? Yeah?

1434
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: I mean.

1435
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 6: And also during his reign he got away with murder.

1436
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 6: He got away with murder. Bro, what he did to Drum.

1437
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 6: I still think it's the it's horrible. Who ship?

1438
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 4: What he did to Drum was horrible?

1439
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 3: What he did?

1440
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 4: What what happened to his ghostwriter? What h Quinn Miller?

1441
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,959
Speaker 4: Quinn Miller? Fuck shit? You know what I'm saying.

1442
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 6: He's been abusing people like you know what I'm saying,

1443
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 6: his entire time at the top, nigga, you feel me

1444
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 6: taking advantage of people that had they uh you know,

1445
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 6: had their little box and he and and you know

1446
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 6: motherfuckers like this is a Drake stimulus packet, not package.

1447
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,959
Speaker 4: No, that was keeping him popping. You know what I'm saying,

1448
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 4: That's what he was doing.

1449
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 6: You know what I mean, using a street cred you

1450
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, just like what Kendrick said, using

1451
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 6: a you know what I'm saying, using a They got

1452
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 6: his shit cracking and bubbling, and he using their you know,

1453
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 6: momentum to keep himself up top. You know what I'm saying.

1454
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 6: And now you know, like we see who he really is, bro,

1455
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 6: we see who he really is. It's it's the nigga's

1456
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 6: getting exactly what he deserves.

1457
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1458
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 4: Congratulations to all of us. You know what I mean.

1459
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 4: The universe is doing what the universe should do. To

1460
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 4: a fuck nigga like him.

1461
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: Bro, what's really funny about it is we really don't

1462
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: sit here and go like, oh, we have to talk

1463
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 2: about Drake every week because people are interested in that.

1464
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 2: It's just like he keeps forcing us to talk about it.

1465
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 2: I don't even like, do you know what I mean? Like,

1466
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: it's just it's like every week he wakes up and

1467
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: he's like, people aren't talking about me being an idiot

1468
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 2: right now?

1469
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 6: Like it's like I don't have any like any more

1470
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 6: to say about him as a person truly, Like he's

1471
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 6: shown us who he is.

1472
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 4: Now we're just like he's just adding more.

1473
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 6: Feel like like he's just further stamping who he thought

1474
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 6: he was from the the shit he was doing, you know,

1475
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 6: two months ago, three months ago, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1476
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 6: I don't know if I said this before, but all

1477
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 6: the people who was talking about Drake, and I was like,

1478
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 6: you hate.

1479
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 4: Sometimes haters are right, nigga. He just got that third

1480
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 4: eye over he.

1481
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 6: Nigga, Hey, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes hate is

1482
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 6: just fact. I apologize to all the people that I

1483
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 6: said hate. He's like, nah, nigga, you was right.

1484
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 3: I was wrong.

1485
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 4: I was wrong. You know he was a bitch.

1486
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 3: It was a fact year I hate continues to roll

1487
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 3: on strong sixteen days. Then all right, that's all we got.

1488
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 3: Thanks again to Gojo for hopping on. That was a

1489
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 3: lot of fun. U. Thanks to Drake for you know,

1490
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 3: being the gift that gief sound giving.

1491
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 4: I guess, bro, I mean I don't want to talk

1492
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 4: about this nigga no more. I swear to God, Bro,

1493
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 4: you we all say that three tops. I guarantee you

1494
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 4: he ain't done. Like what else we got to say

1495
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 4: about this man? What new material? I promise you he will.

1496
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 4: I want him out of my life. I want him

1497
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 4: out of my life.

1498
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, you know how when you

1499
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 6: get a break up you know what I'm saying, and

1500
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 6: you really over it, you know, and he's just like

1501
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 6: I just you know, I just would rather not.

1502
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 4: That's how I feel.

1503
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 6: I just don't even want to like, I'm tired of

1504
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 6: this nigga. I want him away. I want him away.

1505
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 6: I don't want to talk about his nigga no more. Bro.

1506
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 4: What's what we have to say about this? Nothing? Gee?

1507
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll be back Sunday night talking NFL

1508
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 2: playoffs and Drake so we do have a lead candidate

1509
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 2: for Nookie out of the Week on Sunday nights.

1510
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's unanimous.

1511
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Thanks agin to go, Joe withe else, Bye bye.

1512
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: The volume

1513
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 6: Mahm