Speaker 1: Let me ask you this before we start. We're started,
Speaker 1: we already started. Do you have makeup on? Are you
Speaker 1: putting makeup on for you? No? I can't do this.
Speaker 1: I'm out. If that's what we're doing here, I got
Speaker 1: I advocate my throne.
Speaker 2: Here is why I have makeup on.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to take Axel to a birthday party
Speaker 3: right after this.
Speaker 1: You have makeup on to go to a kid's birthday party?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: First of all, all right, first of all, seventy back off.
Speaker 3: I have tinted moisturizer on, some blush and mascara. I
Speaker 3: don't really qualify that as like makeup.
Speaker 1: That's literally what it is. That's literally what it is.
Speaker 4: More and more better, better, a little more better, more better.
Speaker 3: Okay, fine, it is makeup, But I'm saying like I
Speaker 3: didn't do like a full beat. I just put some
Speaker 3: mascara on and some lush on my cheeks, Like that's it.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, more better a podcast. Stop pretending to have
Speaker 1: it all together and embrace the what?
Speaker 2: What are we embracing the something?
Speaker 3: We're just trying to be a little more better every
Speaker 3: day on. I have eye patches on because I'm trying
Speaker 3: to be more better. I don't know these parents. He's
Speaker 3: in kindergarten. I'm meeting a bunch of parents for the
Speaker 3: first time.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't know. I should be like
Speaker 1: shorts and a fishing T shirt.
Speaker 3: Not that I fish, but I do too. Once I
Speaker 3: don't I know the people and I don't care.
Speaker 1: But when that's so funny because I'm like the opposite.
Speaker 1: I'm like, when I know them, I try. When I
Speaker 1: don't know them, I don't care.
Speaker 3: Oh that is interesting. I'm literally the opposite. If I
Speaker 3: don't know them. The way to like make myself feel
Speaker 3: less nervous is just like put a cute top on,
Speaker 3: slap a little makeup on, and just like feel good
Speaker 3: about how I feel my best. But when it's people
Speaker 3: I know and I don't care, I'll just feel comfortable
Speaker 3: and whatever.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: You saw me at that dinner the other night. We
Speaker 1: went to dinner the other night, and I was wearing.
Speaker 2: You looked so cute.
Speaker 3: I dressed up because I was like, Stephanie always looks
Speaker 3: really really cute at our dinners, So I was like,
Speaker 3: what what can And then you looked so cozy, and
Speaker 3: I was like, god, damn it. I want to wear
Speaker 3: a sweater.
Speaker 1: I was in my sweater with the horses with the
Speaker 1: pixelated horses on it.
Speaker 2: Guys, uh West, what have you done lately?
Speaker 1: That's more better?
Speaker 2: Great you are making but make it.
Speaker 1: I done that, it's more better. Oh wait, I have
Speaker 1: to show you this before we start. Okay, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: is Amy Santiago? Is this sticker from? This? Is this
Speaker 1: sticker nine starter sticker pack? And wait, I have to
Speaker 1: see this other thing. Hold on, it's a tiny conflict
Speaker 1: a notebook. Yeah, it's winder. And then this is the best.
Speaker 1: Why is it in black and white? Though?
Speaker 2: Can you color it? Wait? What is that?
Speaker 1: It's the it's the You're an Amazing Detective slash Genius Award.
Speaker 2: Oh it is just a black eye.
Speaker 1: It's like you can see there's the seal. There's the
Speaker 1: Brooklyn nine nine seal on it, and it's got like
Speaker 1: little tabs up here.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I got this from someone on the internet at b
Speaker 1: l U b i U b l U at blub
Speaker 1: e u blue, and I believe they gave it to
Speaker 1: me at like a comic con or something. They were like, here,
Speaker 1: I me this for you, and I was like that,
Speaker 1: so I finally opened it, and I thought that you
Speaker 1: would want to see those and I'll save these. Well,
Speaker 1: this one's mine because I'm I'm the winner of the
Speaker 1: Amazing Detective slash Genius. But you can have.
Speaker 2: These, I mean, technically amy one more than row.
Speaker 1: No, that's enough, all right, that's enough, more better. What
Speaker 1: are we talking about this week?
Speaker 2: We're talking about pets.
Speaker 1: Yay, oh, something that we both love to talk about.
Speaker 2: Want to get more better at, want to get more
Speaker 2: better at.
Speaker 3: We both got our first dogs at the same time
Speaker 3: in adulthood, right, you didn't have a dog before Banjo? No, Yeah,
Speaker 3: my first pet was a turtle that ran away as
Speaker 3: a kid, but I mean like as an adult.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as an adult. My first pet was my dog, Banjo,
Speaker 1: who I got in my thirties when we were already
Speaker 1: on Brooklyn nine nine and you had and I had Bella.
Speaker 3: She was my first pet kind of period we had like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we had like fish and stuff growing up, and I
Speaker 3: got her when I was like twenty two.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have to say the story because it was
Speaker 1: on the tip of my tongue to be like fish
Speaker 1: don't count, but they do. Obviously we've all seen finding
Speaker 1: Nemo my college sweet Maids. So we had our own rooms,
Speaker 1: but we shared a bathroom and she will remain nameless.
Speaker 1: But we at the same time bought beta fish to
Speaker 1: having our rooms, right, uh huh, girlfriend, I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: throw her under the bus, but like she basically like,
Speaker 1: let the water evaporate in that fish's tank, like god.
Speaker 1: And that was I think the moment that I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a really irresponsible person. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be around this human being like in.
Speaker 2: Life, you know what I mean, I like a red flag.
Speaker 1: Yes, how people treat animals as a direct correlation to
Speaker 1: how they are as human beings. And that's why Andy
Speaker 1: Sandberg is the worst because he hates dogs. You heard
Speaker 1: it here, not first he hates dogs.
Speaker 3: He yes, we would send him pictures of our dogs
Speaker 3: all the time. You're like, look, tell me how cute
Speaker 3: you think my dog?
Speaker 1: Doesn't care?
Speaker 2: But he doesn't care.
Speaker 1: He also would never like harm an animal or a
Speaker 1: small thing.
Speaker 2: Oh god, no, no, no, no, isn't that.
Speaker 3: I feel like there was even a Christmas where like
Speaker 3: he was hanging out with a dog that he liked
Speaker 3: and he sent us pictures because he was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I'm hanging out with this dog.
Speaker 1: I found one. I found one that I like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I found one. Yeah, so I lay cold hearted.
Speaker 1: No he's not. Probably he's not going to listen to this.
Speaker 1: It's fun you can talk about him. You know. I
Speaker 1: had a cat when I was in middle school who
Speaker 1: tragically was hit by a car. And he was like
Speaker 1: he was this little orange you know orange cats. They
Speaker 1: make fun of orange cats. How they're like absolutely bonds.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah are they?
Speaker 1: He was off the wall bananas. He was an indoor
Speaker 1: outdoor cat because for me my parents, my parents didn't
Speaker 1: have animals that stayed inside the house, like my dad
Speaker 1: when he was growing up in Barangia, Like they had
Speaker 1: a dog that was like inside you know, yes, and
Speaker 1: like that was just a deal guy, like's ud. They eat,
Speaker 1: you know, breakfast and dinner and then that's it. Maybe
Speaker 1: they eat table scraps whatever. My mom fucking hated cats,
Speaker 1: like hated them. So when I came home, mom had
Speaker 1: cats too. I don't know what it is, like, what
Speaker 1: is it is it? I don't know what is it?
Speaker 1: Like she's just scared of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom thinks they're dirty because they don't take
Speaker 3: baths technically, and they clean themselves.
Speaker 2: That's my mom's reasoning.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. She's like, that's a filthy animal.
Speaker 3: She's like, that's a filthy animal, and I don't want
Speaker 3: to be anywhere near it.
Speaker 1: Wait, speaking of how often did you give do you
Speaker 1: give your dog? About?
Speaker 2: Ye? Once a week? Dang, But David try good about it.
Speaker 1: I really try.
Speaker 2: Well, we have a big dog too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of like sometimes.
Speaker 3: In winter will go a little longer because I don't
Speaker 3: know why. She it's kind of like as soon as
Speaker 3: we smell the stink, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: The dogs stink.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you give them a bath, they smell really
Speaker 3: good like soap for a couple of days. Then they
Speaker 3: smell just like nothing or normal, and then there's like
Speaker 3: that little bit of like dander stink, like it starts
Speaker 3: to come. As soon as we smell the stink. She
Speaker 3: gets a bath. See, but that happens a little bit.
Speaker 3: It takes a little longer, I think in winter for
Speaker 3: the stink to come. So maybe it's like every ten.
Speaker 2: Days or something.
Speaker 1: In winter, Gouda's breath is so bad that like that's
Speaker 1: all you can smell because he's a dogs in Chihuahua and.
Speaker 2: Like they're just yeah little just in their breath.
Speaker 1: Little dogs in their breath. Man, it is yeah, funky,
Speaker 1: fun and dunk like so that's why you can really smile.
Speaker 1: But like ros won't really. She has like a tentative
Speaker 1: relationship with Gudha, but a lot of times is like
Speaker 1: trying to like get up in her face and stuff.
Speaker 1: She's like, ew, no, good to your breath. Like, I
Speaker 1: think roz is gonna have a lot of memories of
Speaker 1: being like, oh, the dogs are gross.
Speaker 3: My bad, I should and this is so really little though, No,
Speaker 3: you could like she'll have a dog maybe when.
Speaker 2: She's older, and it'll.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, although like a child and a dog at
Speaker 1: the same time is a lot.
Speaker 2: It is a lot of things.
Speaker 1: I think That's why I asked you, like how often
Speaker 1: do you give Rosie her bath, because like we don't
Speaker 1: do that, Like, I mean, he probably gets a bath
Speaker 1: every two weeks. Maybe you know. Brad will straight up
Speaker 1: be like, oh, just like put him in the pool.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think that's the same.
Speaker 2: It's not the same. No, it's works for kids, but
Speaker 2: not for them.
Speaker 1: That's not.
Speaker 2: Then they just my like wet dirty dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wet dirty dog. Also he doesn't like to swim.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Some chihuahua's like, don't. Chihuas are lappy,
Speaker 1: little lap dogs. I'm like, I know, hate on chihuahuas.
Speaker 1: But they're very, very loyal. They'll pick like one or
Speaker 1: two people that they're obsessed with. Docsins are the same.
Speaker 1: They'll pick like one or two people, and they're uber,
Speaker 1: uber protective over those people. And I just think that
Speaker 1: that's so sweet. You know. It's like Guda and Banjo,
Speaker 1: my first dog. He was, Oh my god, Banjo was
Speaker 1: like Banjo was my familiar. Like he was not a
Speaker 1: real like dog. He was like a different alien species.
Speaker 1: He looked like Steve BUCHEMI he did, yeah, And he
Speaker 1: was an old old man when I adopted him. He
Speaker 1: was like twelve already, and he would sit in my
Speaker 1: lap in the makeup trailer. He didn't have a problem
Speaker 1: with anybody. Remember you could. I could put him in
Speaker 1: a sort of travel bag and like go out to
Speaker 1: dinner with him, put him under the table and nobody
Speaker 1: would notice him because he wouldn't make a friggin sound.
Speaker 1: He was the best, and I think he spoiled me
Speaker 1: a little also because he was so well behaved when
Speaker 1: I was around that he just like I just didn't
Speaker 1: know that you had to train up a dog, like
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know. And then Guda came
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh that you're not the same.
Speaker 1: Oh what's happening? Yeah, everybody, what do I do? You know?
Speaker 1: And now it's kind of too wet. Do you think
Speaker 1: it's ever too late to train a dog? No?
Speaker 3: I trained Bella a little late because I got Bella
Speaker 3: I was young.
Speaker 2: She was my first dog. I got her as a puppy.
Speaker 3: She was so wild and I like basic things, but
Speaker 3: like oh my, but also that dog was so smart,
Speaker 3: like how you're talking about Banjo like Bella was. You know,
Speaker 3: some people think that you have like a soul pet,
Speaker 3: like one or two lifetime like Bella definitely was for me.
Speaker 2: She was so smart.
Speaker 3: Potty training her was hard because like she knew what
Speaker 3: to do. She'd wait till you turned around, and she'd
Speaker 3: like poop in a room that you never go into,
Speaker 3: and then like you find it and I'd be like,
Speaker 3: I've just freaking walked you, Like it felt like a
Speaker 3: trying to outsmart a puppy in terms of like potty training,
Speaker 3: not always like catching her when she had to go,
Speaker 3: and I'd be like.
Speaker 2: Dog is messing with my mind, Like what is happening?
Speaker 1: But I got her for New York, right, I had
Speaker 1: her in New York and it wasn't I really didn't
Speaker 1: start training her till I mean till she was out
Speaker 1: of puppy miss, Like she was already like two or three.
Speaker 2: And I got really into Caesar Milan and I wrote
Speaker 2: his book if I watched his show.
Speaker 1: Caesar Milan.
Speaker 3: But that shit worked, and then I got really intense
Speaker 3: about training her because she used to like she was
Speaker 3: a big dog and she would like jump on people
Speaker 3: when they came over, and like she like knocked down
Speaker 3: this one guy who was like over six feet tall,
Speaker 3: and like he broke a tooth and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. I was like and she didn't meet
Speaker 3: She was just like joyful, but like didn't know that
Speaker 3: she was like one hundred and twenty pounds yeah, and
Speaker 3: she could hurt someone.
Speaker 2: And then she like pulled on the leash and like
Speaker 2: she was really strong.
Speaker 3: So she might have even been older because there were
Speaker 3: a couple my mom got hurt too.
Speaker 2: Once walking her Wow because she saw.
Speaker 1: She pulled her so hard or something.
Speaker 3: She pulled her so hard because she saw a squirrel
Speaker 3: and she pulled her so hard, and my mom had
Speaker 3: like like it was it was bad. We felt really bad.
Speaker 3: And then my mom and my parents were not dog
Speaker 3: people ever. Yeah, mine were like I wanted a dog
Speaker 3: growing up.
Speaker 2: I would beg them, beg them, beg them.
Speaker 3: Neighbors on both sides of my parents' house and you
Speaker 3: know there's like a chain link fence between the yards.
Speaker 3: They both had dogs. One was yappy, one was a
Speaker 3: sweet Great Dane that he used to sit next to
Speaker 3: the fence and he would come over to the fence
Speaker 3: and like lay down and let me pet him through
Speaker 3: the fence and lick my fingers and he was and
Speaker 3: I would sit there and talk to him and he
Speaker 3: was so I think that's why maybe I love big
Speaker 3: dogs too, like my first like connective experience with the dog.
Speaker 3: And but they never let us get dogs, and so
Speaker 3: they when we got Bella, they were.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, why are you getting dog? Da cut to.
Speaker 3: My dad's like giving her food off the table. They
Speaker 3: like love her so much. She's so smart, so she
Speaker 3: like listens to my mom's rules in the house, Like
Speaker 3: she gets on our couch, she won't get on my
Speaker 3: mom's couch. Yeah, and my mom is like so impressed
Speaker 3: with this, but she does make my mom fall. My
Speaker 3: mom gets hurt, like like black eye hurt.
Speaker 1: Oh my an, I know, And oh my god.
Speaker 3: After my mom made us feel real bad about it,
Speaker 3: then she and this is so my mom. Then she
Speaker 3: told after we were like feeling horrible and like apologizing profusely.
Speaker 3: But then she told us that when she got back
Speaker 3: to the house and she was like upset and like
Speaker 3: she grabbed some like frozen peace and she sat in
Speaker 3: the chair and with the frozen peas in her eye,
Speaker 3: and she was like, oh my god, I can't believe
Speaker 3: this just happened.
Speaker 2: And she said Bella came over and put her head
Speaker 2: on her lap, and she goes, that dog did not
Speaker 2: move until I was ready to get up from the chair.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she was.
Speaker 3: That dog just sat there with her big head in
Speaker 3: my lap, looking up at me like I'm so sorry,
Speaker 3: and she just stayed there.
Speaker 5: They're so sweet, so sweet.
Speaker 1: They're so they can be so sweet.
Speaker 2: They can be so.
Speaker 1: Sweet animals if you really give them a lot of love.
Speaker 1: Obviously they're going to make mistakes, like they're not. They're
Speaker 1: like kids in that way, like they have to You
Speaker 1: have to train up a dog, You have to train
Speaker 1: up a kid.
Speaker 2: Like got a train up but yeah, you got train
Speaker 2: up a kid.
Speaker 1: You got training dogs, you really do. You can't train
Speaker 1: cats that much. Although my friend Katie owns she's been
Speaker 1: a cat owner for a really long time and like
Speaker 1: has had multiple cats, and she can train them. She's
Speaker 1: trained them to like do tricks and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Her cats really listen to her. But like it can
Speaker 1: be harder.
Speaker 3: Really hoping you're going to say, to pee in the toilet,
Speaker 3: because I think that's the only way I could have
Speaker 3: a cat.
Speaker 2: I had one of those cats that peede in the toilet.
Speaker 1: I was able to get my cat when I was
Speaker 1: in junior high. I was able to get him to
Speaker 1: pee in the toilet a couple of times. Like I
Speaker 1: was really because I got I had him. I think
Speaker 1: I got him over summer break and so I had
Speaker 1: a lot of time and I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm going to be one of those people that has
Speaker 1: a cat that piece in toilet, And for a little
Speaker 1: while he did, but then we would have to leave
Speaker 1: the toilet seat down because my mom was really like
Speaker 1: about that, like leave it down, and you can't do that.
Speaker 1: You have to leave it up for them because you
Speaker 1: have to leave I don't have opposable thumbs. They got
Speaker 1: they might were right.
Speaker 3: I mean we can't ask that much of them, Like
Speaker 3: we're already in the toilet, we ask them to like
Speaker 3: take care of the seat, put it up and down,
Speaker 3: Like that's just too much.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I feel like for me.
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me this yesterday. Actually they were like, what
Speaker 1: was who was the person that helped you learn how
Speaker 1: to become a mother? And I was like that was
Speaker 1: a weird answer. But my dog, like my dog, Yeah, one,
Speaker 1: Banjo was the one, like, especially when he was sick
Speaker 1: at the end, when he was dying, it was like, oh, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: you really are good at taking care of something that
Speaker 1: completely and totally depends on you, Like you can be
Speaker 1: responsible for that in your life. You've never had that before.
Speaker 1: Here it is, it's in your hands and you're doing it.
Speaker 1: You're like capable of it. Yeah. My dad also loved Banjo.
Speaker 1: Loved Banjo loved like was confused as to why I
Speaker 1: got an old dog because he was like, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be expensive, it's gonna get sick, whatever. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I'd bring Band home for all of the holidays that
Speaker 1: I could, and my Dad would like sit there with
Speaker 1: Banjo in his arms, like you know, with his coffee up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like we would all sit around, be talking after dinner
Speaker 1: and stuff, and my dad would have his coffee and
Speaker 1: like be sitting there with Banjo in his arms. Band
Speaker 1: would just be falling asleep in my dad's arms. Which
Speaker 1: is also when my dad was like devastated when Gooda
Speaker 1: didn't like him, Like he was so devastated, he would
Speaker 1: like walk across the room and God would just be
Speaker 1: like mad, like crazy.
Speaker 2: Now who to keep?
Speaker 1: Would like probably would be fine, Like he loves my
Speaker 1: mom because she walks him a lot, but.
Speaker 2: He hated my dad.
Speaker 1: Hated my dad.
Speaker 2: Oh good, I know, sad.
Speaker 3: I keep warning my my parents haven't met our new
Speaker 3: dog Rosie yet. And they loved you know, Bella, like
Speaker 3: Bello left behind like such a big legacy, like all
Speaker 3: the people in our lives like loved Fellas so much
Speaker 3: because she just had so much personality and like I
Speaker 3: said she was really smart our dog. Now Rosie is
Speaker 3: so sweet, not so smart.
Speaker 1: She is a lovable, adorable baby. She's a baby still though,
Speaker 1: right isn't she like two or three?
Speaker 2: She's she's gonna be three in January. She's like a baby.
Speaker 1: She's a baby. She's not street smart like she. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, Puppy's not in New York City, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like she's baby boddled.
Speaker 1: She's got like a yard, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, but homegirl still chases her tail like home girls.
Speaker 1: I know. Guda's not so smart either. Sometimes I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: buddy kind of looks at you, yeah, and there's like
Speaker 1: like the look is different, Whereas like I felt like
Speaker 1: Bella would look at me and like really be trying
Speaker 1: to communicate that yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah totally. And
Speaker 1: Rosie's just like there's no that's her theme song, like yeah,
Speaker 1: Kuda we used to sing. We don't sing it anymore
Speaker 1: because we don't want Ross to pick it up. But
Speaker 1: like Guda would come and sit like right by you,
Speaker 1: like when you were eating. He'd just be like right
Speaker 1: up in your ship. So I started saying, Guda, get out,
Speaker 1: of here. Nobody wants here. Gouda, get out of here.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants you here. But I can to stop because
Speaker 1: like I don't, ros will start singing that. It's very catchy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's very catchy.
Speaker 1: It's very catchy.
Speaker 2: She swaps out the name at school.
Speaker 1: Oh no, my god, ship man. Yeah, it'd be like
Speaker 1: that with kids, Like it'd be like that with kids.
Speaker 2: That's what.
Speaker 1: You gotta watch your mouth.
Speaker 2: You gotta watch your mouth.
Speaker 1: I've I like when you know, Bella and band died
Speaker 1: right around the same time, didn't they like maybe six
Speaker 1: months apart or something. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was very close. Yeah, yeah, I think in the
Speaker 2: same year.
Speaker 3: That was hard, and that was hard. That's hard, morning
Speaker 3: a pet. Yeah, let's talk about getting better at that because.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, there is no way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, grief is just grief.
Speaker 3: But I we were actually out of town when Bella
Speaker 3: passed away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: What we think happened was like she had she there
Speaker 3: was a tumor that we kind of knew about, but
Speaker 3: the doctor was like, and we were going to take
Speaker 3: it out. It was like Thanksgiving or something. We're planning
Speaker 3: to take it out right after the holidays, and the
Speaker 3: doctor was like, I don't think it's like an emergency,
Speaker 3: but we should take it out.
Speaker 2: Sooner than later. It was kind of like the general diagnosis.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Then I think the tumor exploded because it was like
Speaker 3: very like went from okay to really not okay within hours.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And our friend was watching her and her friend was
Speaker 2: very close to her, and it was just horrible. So
Speaker 2: it was like on top of the morning.
Speaker 3: Of my pet, even though I knew she was nine,
Speaker 3: and like I knew it was going to be happening
Speaker 3: at some point in that year, just because like mastiffs,
Speaker 3: it's like ten years, it's like such a timestamp.
Speaker 2: It's like ninety.
Speaker 3: Oh, Like isn't there an like if you meet as
Speaker 3: past the age of ten, it's like a miracle. Yeah,
Speaker 3: David's families had a lot of Mastiffs. They've all died
Speaker 3: at like nine or ten, and so it just still
Speaker 3: was so shocking.
Speaker 2: And then I think the thing that was like.
Speaker 3: The hardest was that it wasn't there, you know, and
Speaker 3: like that was almost as painful, if not more painful.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can feel like emotional right now
Speaker 2: just talking about it.
Speaker 1: Still.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just wasn't there that I just really
Speaker 3: really wanted to be there.
Speaker 2: In that moment with her, and that was a hard
Speaker 2: thing to get over. It was hard.
Speaker 1: That's really hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really hard.
Speaker 3: It's like it's just and it's like that saying like
Speaker 3: you're they're such a short lip in your life, but
Speaker 3: you're their whole life, Like yeah, it's it's so true,
Speaker 3: and it's so.
Speaker 2: And then you have to get used to not having them.
Speaker 3: And I used to like hear phantom like her pause,
Speaker 3: like what it sounded like when she'd walk down the
Speaker 3: hall and her paws.
Speaker 2: Would hit the wood floor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, heard like phantom of that, like for many months. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but we we got her ashes and we spread them
Speaker 3: in her I don't you know if I should say it,
Speaker 3: because it's secondly against living.
Speaker 1: You spread them, that's enough, that's enough.
Speaker 2: You can always spread them somewhere. So yeah, yes, it's
Speaker 2: a public land place.
Speaker 1: He went into a pet co and just sprinkle them
Speaker 1: in the corners.
Speaker 3: And then we stay and then we got like there
Speaker 3: was this little vial that we have some of them too,
Speaker 3: that's like hanging on a cross like in our hallway. Yea,
Speaker 3: and yeah, and We have a beautiful picture too of
Speaker 3: when we did her ashes that my friend Dave Johnson,
Speaker 3: who's a great ghetographer, took of us like a black
Speaker 3: and white photo.
Speaker 2: And so we have that. Yeah, And it's funny my
Speaker 2: kids talk about her too, because we have really many
Speaker 2: Bellows stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I used to say too that when Enzo was born,
Speaker 3: Enzo was not scared of any dogs. When he was
Speaker 3: a little toddler, he would go up to the biggest
Speaker 3: dog in the park and you know, and I taught
Speaker 3: and I would always you know, you got to be
Speaker 3: like safe, you got to like pass the owners and
Speaker 3: teach your kids how to like approach a dog. And
Speaker 3: I did, which he picked up very quickly. And people
Speaker 3: used to always be like, oh, do you have a dog,
Speaker 3: And they'd be like no, and they'd be like, wow,
Speaker 3: he's like so comfortable around our big dog, like we
Speaker 3: just assumed you had a dog. And so I used
Speaker 3: to say, like, I bet Ella, this visits him and
Speaker 3: his dreams or something, that's why he's always Yeah, And
Speaker 3: now he and Rosy are like just so cute together.
Speaker 3: But she treats him like another puppy in the house.
Speaker 1: That's really sweet.
Speaker 2: How was it for you when it's hard.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean my experience was so different than yours,
Speaker 1: you know, like yours was so abrupt. I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: you knew, like you said, you knew like okay, there's
Speaker 1: a you know, not an expiration date, but like yeah, traditionally,
Speaker 1: like I.
Speaker 2: Knew the time was coming at some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some breeds just don't live as long as others.
Speaker 1: And that's something I think that you got to think
Speaker 1: about when you're becoming a dog owner, right like this,
Speaker 1: that's something that like I definitely, I definitely knew that.
Speaker 1: That was part of why I wanted to adopt Banjo,
Speaker 1: because it felt like somebody didn't realize how much work
Speaker 1: it was going to be with him, you know, and
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, I don't want to have to
Speaker 1: pay for this, so I'm going to dump them at
Speaker 1: a shelter, which, like listen, trying not to judge, because
Speaker 1: sometimes you just don't have enough money to take care
Speaker 1: of your animal, you know, and that's a horrible day.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, that is a really horrible position to be in,
Speaker 1: and I don't judge anyone for that. But what I
Speaker 1: think I do think about is like when I think
Speaker 1: when I thought about adopting a dog. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I could get a puppy, and then I could then
Speaker 1: I could like have you know, all this time with
Speaker 1: this puppy and I'd get, you know, his whole life
Speaker 1: with me. And then I was also like, well, dang,
Speaker 1: like there's this old dog at the shelter that nobody
Speaker 1: wants that you know, I don't take him, Like look
Speaker 1: at him. He's just like here in this shelter, like
Speaker 1: he's not built to be in this shelter, and like
Speaker 1: I have enough money, like I have a good job.
Speaker 1: That that was when we were on Brooklyn. So I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I could take him home and like
Speaker 1: if something's wrong with him, I could probably help him
Speaker 1: have a pretty good life. And like I did, you know, like.
Speaker 2: I you so did.
Speaker 3: I remember helped him out of my just thinking like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, what a generous and beautiful thing to do.
Speaker 1: He was so crookedy, remember his crooked ass front legs
Speaker 1: and like his eyes that were like like one in
Speaker 1: each direction, and he was just so sweet and not
Speaker 1: you know, like he can jump on my bed. So
Speaker 1: like when Brad and I met, I still had I
Speaker 1: think I didn't have a bed frame yet because I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm cool with my mattress on the ground
Speaker 1: because like then Bang can get in the bed. And
Speaker 1: Brad and I met and he was like, so, how
Speaker 1: long have you been in this apartment? You know, Like
Speaker 1: I think that was actually when I had moved and
Speaker 1: he was like, haven't you been here for a while?
Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, but yeah. When when Bantots sick,
Speaker 1: it was like it was hard because then you also
Speaker 1: have to make all these decisions. Like that's something that
Speaker 1: I think I got better more better at when he
Speaker 1: was sick, was like, what are the decisions that I
Speaker 1: have to make here?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Am I making some of these decisions just because I
Speaker 1: want to spend more time with them? Because I think
Speaker 1: that happens too. Like I think people like keep their
Speaker 1: pets and animals alive past the time where maybe they
Speaker 1: should let them go because they love them so much.
Speaker 1: And dogs and cats especially, but I think a lot
Speaker 1: of different kinds of animals don't say when they're in pain.
Speaker 1: They don't tell you as all the time. You know,
Speaker 1: cats are really good at hiding pain. Dogs are pretty
Speaker 1: chill about, like you know, knuckling down and dealing with it.
Speaker 1: Until it's like impossible to deal with anymore, you know.
Speaker 1: I remember Vanja. I was like totally fine, totally fine,
Speaker 1: totally fine, and then stopped being able to walk and
Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell, Like what's wrong with him?
Speaker 1: Why isn't he coming? Like and I had to like
Speaker 1: pull him home and then I was like I better
Speaker 1: just carry him. And that was when we found out like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's really sick. He's dying, like his kidneys are failing.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, what do you mean it's
Speaker 1: kidneys are failing. What does that mean? And they were like, well,
Speaker 1: that means he has a limited amount of time and
Speaker 1: you know, without fluids every day he will like quickly
Speaker 1: go And I was like, okay, so how do I
Speaker 1: learn how to do fluids every day? I was, right, sir,
Speaker 1: right up giving him fluids every day.
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, but it was also like so fun.
Speaker 1: It was, you know, he was the most fun at
Speaker 1: the end, Like I took him to do you know
Speaker 1: who Jess? I think her last name is Rona. That
Speaker 1: la dob Grumer. That was like one of the first
Speaker 1: ones that was like dying hair and stuff. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I don't think she had this Instagram and now subsequently
Speaker 1: has a TikTok. She grooms like people's dogs and makes
Speaker 1: them adorable and super cute, and for a while she
Speaker 1: was like doing I think she still does it, like
Speaker 1: dying their fur, like just their tails are like the
Speaker 1: tips of their ears with like doggie hair dye. And
Speaker 1: I think band went to her twice because it was
Speaker 1: very hard to get in. It was very exclusive. But
Speaker 1: I knew somebody very exclusive, and he went and he
Speaker 1: got his little tail dyed blue, and he looked so handsome.
Speaker 2: You could tell he was like really proud for do
Speaker 2: you remember that?
Speaker 1: He was like so proud of himself.
Speaker 2: He had a little extra pep and he had a
Speaker 2: little swash.
Speaker 1: I was like baby boo. But that was the first
Speaker 1: and last time that. I mean, I did spend quite
Speaker 1: a bit of money on his little carrying case because
Speaker 1: I always had it with me, and that was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went fancy on that. But I'm also not one
Speaker 1: of those people. It's like, you know, I don't have
Speaker 1: like outfits if you are, Yeah, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: Although do you remember do you remember Rachel? Do you
Speaker 1: remember Rachel on Wardrobe in on Brooklyn? Yes, so she
Speaker 1: took her dog to a pet psychic and the psychic
Speaker 1: told her. The psychic told her that her dog really
Speaker 1: liked to dress up, and her dog was really sad
Speaker 1: that she didn't get little outfits every day. So Rachel
Speaker 1: was like, okay, so she started buying her outfits and
Speaker 1: the dog, she said, was like it was like night
Speaker 1: and day, like the dog would like tea out of
Speaker 1: the house and her little outfits and stuff like didn't
Speaker 1: want to wear the same outfit two days in a row.
Speaker 1: Was like very all about her little outfit. What isn't
Speaker 1: that cute?
Speaker 2: That is cute? It's really pet psychic.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think. I don't I I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I like Rosie will be like calling me dumb.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I feel like I feel like pets
Speaker 1: are a really vulnerable place. I mean, like we both
Speaker 1: talked about our animals and like we're still emotional about them,
Speaker 1: you know, pets are so there's such a vulnerable place
Speaker 1: for us as human beings that like I just feel
Speaker 1: like there's like I would have to get like a
Speaker 1: super super good wreck because I feel like that's a
Speaker 1: territory where there's like a lot of like scammers, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Of course I want my dog to have the best
Speaker 1: and like be happy and stuff. I don't want to
Speaker 1: like I don't want to trust a stranger to be
Speaker 1: like do you blah blah blah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like scan scan and be like, yeah, you're gonna need
Speaker 1: to come back here next week because I don't know
Speaker 1: how he's going to be doing. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: Know how he's Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's I think that's
Speaker 3: my my fear as well. What do you feel like
Speaker 3: you could do more better with your pet?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Girl? Walk him? But oh my god. Yeah, here is
Speaker 1: the problem. And this is where like maybe I could
Speaker 1: get him some training or something. This motherbucker loves to mark.
Speaker 1: He he lives, tomorrow, he lives.
Speaker 2: He marks like every five steps on a walk.
Speaker 1: It's like every ten steps he stops. And so like,
Speaker 1: I've come to this like place in my soul where
Speaker 1: I'm just like, just let him sniff, just let him walk, like,
Speaker 1: just take it at his pace. He wants, this is
Speaker 1: what he wants to do. The problem with that is,
Speaker 1: though we get to the end of the block and
Speaker 1: have to turn him back around because now it's already
Speaker 1: by the time we get home already, that's twenty five minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a twenty five minute yeah yeah. So then I
Speaker 1: feel bad because like he's not getting like the enrichment
Speaker 1: of a new experience in new neighborhood and stuff and
Speaker 1: so but also is little.
Speaker 3: Though, what happens if you just try to pull him along,
Speaker 3: like he really fights, you let him mark like three times,
Speaker 3: and then you just like you you just keep walking
Speaker 3: and you're like, Nope, this is what we're doing. I
Speaker 3: mean I try, I try, but like the problem is
Speaker 3: like he is so little, and now he's getting old,
Speaker 3: like he's starting to get the white around his eyebrows
Speaker 3: on the white around his muzzle.
Speaker 1: So like, I know, I just feel bad. I feel
Speaker 1: bad when I pull him because I'm like, oh God,
Speaker 1: because Banjo had arthritis, like that was part of why
Speaker 1: he was so slow. And I think about Goudin, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to inadvertently like pull him
Speaker 1: and hurt him. So then I just end up being
Speaker 1: the person that, like you know, when people walk by,
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, who's walking? Who han, I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: such an original joke. It's not the time I've heard it. Whatever,
Speaker 1: I mean that would be better, or like training maybe
Speaker 1: would be something that I could get more better. I
Speaker 1: will say something that I negotiated with Brad, my husband. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's my husband. I'm just saying, if this
Speaker 1: is your first time listening, my husband's name is Brad,
Speaker 1: I will say we have negotiated, like which of us
Speaker 1: is giving walks on what days? So now we know,
Speaker 1: like these are my days and I don't have to
Speaker 1: ask anybody like did he get a walk? Like I know,
Speaker 1: and I trust that's your day he's getting those. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So like that that is nice because like I was
Speaker 1: starting to feel like a nag because I'd be like,
Speaker 1: did anybody walk? Guda? Are you gonna walk? Guda? Did
Speaker 1: he get a walk today? You know? And like I
Speaker 1: don't like, right, I don't want to be in that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't like that version of me.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't like those either. Yeah, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's smart. That's smart to like divvy up days like this. Kay,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to ask, I'm just gonna assume that
Speaker 3: you did it, or like yeah, got him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really smart. I like that.
Speaker 3: I need to walk Rosie more. I The thing with
Speaker 3: Rosie is when we got her a little spontaneously, because
Speaker 3: my husband can be a little spontaneous, which is great
Speaker 3: and sometimes not great, like getting a dog. Like literally
Speaker 3: walked into the room and he was like, there's this
Speaker 3: puppy at this home shelter. Uh, she should be gossive.
Speaker 3: She yeah, like, but we have to go see her
Speaker 3: tomorrow before eleven am. My god, at eleven am, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, what, oh, my god, we haven't even talked
Speaker 1: about we like maybe about two getting a dog. I
Speaker 1: was like, are you fucking kidding me? And then he
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, it's gonna be great.
Speaker 3: And I was like, okay, I said, I will only
Speaker 3: go see the dog. I don't have the mental axel
Speaker 3: was still a baby.
Speaker 1: I don't have the mental capacity.
Speaker 3: To figure out the logistics of taking care of another
Speaker 3: living thing. So you're gonna have to figure out the food,
Speaker 3: the vet, the training. We're paying for training this time.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to train the dog, and I don't
Speaker 3: trust you to train it enough, so we're gonna pay
Speaker 3: for training this time. Because we've got two small kids.
Speaker 3: We got a little baby toddler in this house.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I was like, and you have.
Speaker 3: To figure out where the dog goes and go out
Speaker 3: of town because we fucking go out of town a lot.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 3: I was like, if you can figure all those things out,
Speaker 3: I will go see the dog.
Speaker 2: And he did. Enter his credit, he did, he did.
Speaker 3: So David is always been of assigned Rosy care since
Speaker 3: we got her. He's like the but he's like the main. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and she like listens to him the most.
Speaker 2: Of course, she's like a little bitch with me sometimes
Speaker 2: because he's like Balfa, right, like that's how she sees him.
Speaker 3: Sure, but when I walk, when I'm better about walking her,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: She's just like she's like grateful or something like she
Speaker 1: follows me around more, and she does listen to me
Speaker 1: a little bit more, and like you know, and she's
Speaker 1: just like kind of always like buy me a bit more.
Speaker 2: And I'm like oh, and then I feel bad and
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm like, oh, do you like our
Speaker 2: walks together more?
Speaker 5: Shit?
Speaker 3: Also, as we get older and like, as I don't
Speaker 3: live in New York City anymore, and don't you know
Speaker 3: and I live in a flat neighborhood. I feel like
Speaker 3: I used to walk Bella a lot because we lived
Speaker 3: in a hilly neighborhood.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, something like more fun about it.
Speaker 2: But uh, it's good for me too that like afternoon walk,
Speaker 2: I'm getting like a walk in every day. And it's
Speaker 2: so there's like study after study after study that says
Speaker 2: how good it is for you, especially women to walk
Speaker 2: and like get your steps in whatever. Also just like
Speaker 2: the habit of going for a walk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, and that was one thing I
Speaker 3: was happy that I was doing more when we initially
Speaker 3: got her. I was like, oh, yeah, finally have like
Speaker 3: a reason to like reason a little walk every day.
Speaker 3: But then I get freaking lazy about it and I
Speaker 3: don't do it more better.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to remember, you know, when you
Speaker 1: said earlier, like oh, you're they're just part of our
Speaker 1: world and where their whole world, right, Like it's hard
Speaker 1: it's hard to remember that. And it's because it's really easy.
Speaker 1: Like for granted, they're just like they're you know, they're
Speaker 1: like they're part of the background of your life, you know,
Speaker 1: and so like that, I think, to me, that's probably,
Speaker 1: Like my takeaway today is that, like I have to
Speaker 1: remind myself and and like when I look at him,
Speaker 1: just go like right, like this is also your first
Speaker 1: Somebody said this on on TikTok. Guys, I did put
Speaker 1: TikTok back on my iPad. Okay, oh it's not my iPad.
Speaker 1: It's not on my phone not but on TikTok on
Speaker 1: the Tiki talkies it was like on the Tiki talk
Speaker 1: this is also their first time here, like their first
Speaker 1: time alive, you know. And I was like, oh dang,
Speaker 1: and I haven't thinking. Sometimes when I look at Gooda,
Speaker 1: I'm like, right, this is your first time here, so
Speaker 1: like I want to make it nice for you too,
Speaker 1: And maybe sometimes I roll my eyes because I know
Speaker 1: I'm going to take you on a walk and it's
Speaker 1: going to be the same thing again for me, right,
Speaker 1: But what it is for him is like this all
Speaker 1: new smells today, there's all new shit, Like if there wasn't,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be marking and sniffing for ten minutes to
Speaker 1: the end of the block. You know, this is exciting
Speaker 1: for him. And so like that to me is my takeaway.
Speaker 1: I guess today is like the reminder that, like he's
Speaker 1: not just part of the background of my life. Like
Speaker 1: he deserves to be deserves to be walked on the
Speaker 1: days that I'm assigned to walk him, that I assigned
Speaker 1: myself to walk him. You know, he deserves to have
Speaker 1: fun and not have me pull him along. And just
Speaker 1: like sniff somebody's poo, do I wipe his face and
Speaker 1: butt and feet every time he comes back in my house.
Speaker 1: Absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, yes, can we make a PSA
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 3: Because as you have to wipe our dogs eat, you
Speaker 3: have to, Yeah, you have to.
Speaker 2: Every time she poops, we wipe her.
Speaker 3: Butt, and you know, there's fucking shit. I'm not on
Speaker 3: the wipe when I wipe her. So if you're not
Speaker 3: wiping your dogs, but there's little pieces of ship all
Speaker 3: over your eyes.
Speaker 1: If you learned anything today from this episode of the pod,
Speaker 1: it's please be more better at wiping your dogs.
Speaker 2: But okay, just have a little little bag away just.
Speaker 1: By the door. What's the problem. That's so easy? Another
Speaker 1: one swipe the butt takes two seconds, two seconds, throw away,
Speaker 1: wash your hands, done, done, You did it.
Speaker 2: Otherwise, if you don't do that, there's ship all over
Speaker 2: your house.
Speaker 1: In your house. There is your house.
Speaker 2: Every time they sit down.
Speaker 6: Couch on your couch, babe's Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's our p s A.
Speaker 1: Do you feel a little more better? Do you feel
Speaker 1: like you're better? I actually love that we ended on
Speaker 1: that because we actually are very responsible dive owners that
Speaker 1: we're doing that.
Speaker 3: I do feel a little more better, and I do.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm gonna this week, I'm going to
Speaker 3: try to like walk her more more, just like give
Speaker 3: her more attention.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker 2: I feel like she gets she gets ignored a little bit.
Speaker 1: Doctors too. It's hard. It's hard when you're it's hard.
Speaker 2: It's hard to dog butt and kids and yeah, yeah, we're.
Speaker 1: Doing Okay, we're doing We're doing good.
Speaker 2: We're doing our best. We're doing our best.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see you guys next week where we're definitely
Speaker 1: not probably going to talk about dog poop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, where we might buye Okay, more, more, more and
Speaker 3: more better.
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