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Speaker 1: help you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In
Speaker 1: the studio, kill Erica, Sydney Rosa, they Evin, the love
Speaker 1: guru and spokesperson for Kevin Samuel's family, Dennis Attorney Dennis
Speaker 1: Sperling is in the building, y'all. I appreciate all y'all
Speaker 1: coming through. Uh, I'm gonna start with you, Dennis. Kevin
Speaker 1: Samuel's has said some controversial things about men and women
Speaker 1: with his objective perspective on relationships in the black community, specifically, right,
Speaker 1: social media is a SoundBite, uh, for our community. Like
Speaker 1: everybody had an opinion about Kevin Samuel's demise when he died, right, Uh,
Speaker 1: some uh supportive, some very very vindictive and evil downright evil? Um?
Speaker 1: Was was Kevin Samuels in your opinion a controversial person?
Speaker 1: But and also uh was he misunderstood? Well? I think
Speaker 1: that we use the term controversial because the main um
Speaker 1: society at large did not have anything to controvert what
Speaker 1: he was saying, and therefore he was controversial. But he
Speaker 1: had his logic and it it was based um on facts,
Speaker 1: whether you read the CDC reports and the things that
Speaker 1: he studied, and from that point he expounded on that
Speaker 1: and then he related to how it affected society. It's
Speaker 1: it's not controversial. Basically, he was just speaking facts and
Speaker 1: giving his opinions and that's it. But you know, as
Speaker 1: far as the merits of his actual work, they stand alone,
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm here today not speaking as the
Speaker 1: spokesperson for the family or as their attorney. I'm not
Speaker 1: their attorney, and I'm not speaking as a spokesperson. I
Speaker 1: was his friend and soon to be business associate, and
Speaker 1: so was he misunderstood in the to the vein that
Speaker 1: mass meteor YouTube was not his final stop. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: we had plans to basically revitalize some industries that Black
Speaker 1: Americans lost fifty years ago. So you know, this was
Speaker 1: not about you know, Kevin Samuels, this is about the
Speaker 1: black community large. He loved the black community. That's why
Speaker 1: he continued to talk to the black community. He realized
Speaker 1: after talking to black men for five years that he
Speaker 1: can get these men together, but if they don't have
Speaker 1: suitable mates, then it serves no purpose. It's just gonna
Speaker 1: go off and married women from other other races. That's
Speaker 1: what he thought, and so that's why he was frantically
Speaker 1: every night going back and forth, Miss why don't you
Speaker 1: deal with this guy? You're average, he's average. Y'all be together.
Speaker 1: Instead of thinking you can get some guy who's worth
Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars and you don't qualify for that
Speaker 1: type of man, Let's lower those expectations. And unfortunately, a
Speaker 1: lot of people responded negatively because people like to live in,
Speaker 1: you know, an unreal world. That's that's my interpretation. What
Speaker 1: what do you say to women who say that, yeah,
Speaker 1: he spoke some truth, but he didn't have to be
Speaker 1: so disrespectful. Well, you know, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1: We live in a harsh world world, and you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes things people say may offend you. But you have
Speaker 1: to take the meat from the bones and if it applies,
Speaker 1: then use it, you know. I mean people have spoken
Speaker 1: to me harshly. I don't wish death upon them. I
Speaker 1: may disagree with them, but we can talk about that
Speaker 1: in a logical manner. Was their truth to what he said?
Speaker 1: I dare you to find a lie in what he said?
Speaker 1: Did you not? Did it burn your ears? Maybe so?
Speaker 1: But it was still truth. And so that's what we
Speaker 1: have to exep That's that's the part that I think
Speaker 1: will happen in the next five to ten years. People
Speaker 1: will reanalyze his work and said, well, you know, now
Speaker 1: that I'm not so emotionally attached to it, I'm not
Speaker 1: so angry about it. I see the truth and what
Speaker 1: the man was saying that I think it's again. I
Speaker 1: think his work will stand on its own. And my
Speaker 1: question would be today here it's listen if he has
Speaker 1: said it any other way, that's an excellent point, and
Speaker 1: I've actually talked to him about that. You know, he said,
Speaker 1: you know the thing is, you got you got the
Speaker 1: major networks, you got cable, yeah, Internet. You have all
Speaker 1: these distractions for human beings, and then on top of that,
Speaker 1: you have about you have a generation of people who
Speaker 1: are not used to listening to anything for any extended
Speaker 1: period of time. So unless you say something that cuts
Speaker 1: through the noise, the message will never get out. Now.
Speaker 1: I recognize what he was doing very early on, even
Speaker 1: before he and I became friends, um, and I saw
Speaker 1: what he was doing, and I saw the effectiveness effectiveness
Speaker 1: as of it, and so you know, I get what
Speaker 1: the man was doing. I get the point. I get it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to talk to people in the language
Speaker 1: and in the manner in which they can understand, because
Speaker 1: that is that is what communication is. Me be saying
Speaker 1: it or writing it is not sufficient. You have to
Speaker 1: be able to communicate your ideas to them, and he
Speaker 1: was an effective communicator. Are there any women on the
Speaker 1: panel who would have listened to Kevin Samuel's without the insults? Me?
Speaker 1: I would have. And to be honest with you, if
Speaker 1: a person actually listened to the entire interview and not
Speaker 1: just the snippets that Instagram gave. He wasn't rude unless
Speaker 1: you were rude first. He wasn't disrespectful unless you were
Speaker 1: disrespectful first. And at the end he got a little vogar,
Speaker 1: but that was because he was frustrated because you're asking
Speaker 1: him questions, he's giving you answers, and you're not listening. Uh.
Speaker 1: People don't listen to the entire Uh. For me, I mean,
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying as far as like talking
Speaker 1: about the facts and that he sticks in the way
Speaker 1: that he but I think the delivery for me, like
Speaker 1: I can't receive what you're saying if the way that
Speaker 1: it's just the way that you would deliver things. For example,
Speaker 1: when he told one girl after thirty five years old,
Speaker 1: you know, if if things haven't happened for you, your
Speaker 1: life is over. That's not okay. You didn't watch the
Speaker 1: whole video, nobody exactly because if you listened to the
Speaker 1: whole thing. He asked her, how do you rate yourself?
Speaker 1: He never rated her. He asked her, how do you
Speaker 1: rate yourself? She said, it's a five or six. He said,
Speaker 1: that's average. So if you're average, wise dating an average
Speaker 1: man and insult. It's cue and people don't listen to
Speaker 1: the entire thing. There are a lot of truth. Is
Speaker 1: that a lot of truth in that? Because the funny
Speaker 1: thing is about it, anybody that foughtowed me. No, I've
Speaker 1: been saying a lot of this stuff way before, but
Speaker 1: I don't say it exactly like he said it. What
Speaker 1: the deal is, what he's saying was true. You start
Speaker 1: as a woman, you hit thirty five, you hit forty,
Speaker 1: your numbers started to decline. And that's just a fact.
Speaker 1: What numbers numbers. So your pool anymore, so your pool decreases. Right,
Speaker 1: so we all have we all have a number of
Speaker 1: age or whatever. Where your numbers started to decrease, your
Speaker 1: pool started to decrease. Your thirty five and I would
Speaker 1: say forty more than thirty five? Woman? Who aty to who?
Speaker 1: Though to men? To what kind of mean man? I
Speaker 1: don't calf talking to a specific thirty five. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you older, But that's the deal. You're older than that.
Speaker 1: So if you're a thirty five year old man, you
Speaker 1: don't want a thirty five. You want to year old woman.
Speaker 1: You want to you want to if you're thirty five
Speaker 1: year old man you don't want him, fifty year old woman,
Speaker 1: don't you want to yet? I want tut Okay, you
Speaker 1: want you speaking generally, you're speaking in general. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about you fakes. I know you brought me, but
Speaker 1: the old man don't want thirty five year old woman.
Speaker 1: He me. And if you're a forty five year old man,
Speaker 1: you're messing with a thirty five year old one. But see,
Speaker 1: he wasn't speaking in general. He was speaking to the
Speaker 1: person that called him. But he was talking to general.
Speaker 1: But he's speaking in general when he makes those statements.
Speaker 1: If it's that one situation where she's calling herself average,
Speaker 1: the world is receiving it. Like you're telling me, my
Speaker 1: life is over at thirty five years old, and I
Speaker 1: can't have a partner. When some people's lives begin at
Speaker 1: forty fifty, that's when their prime is actually, so you
Speaker 1: got not have a partner. You're saying that you should
Speaker 1: be more realistic about the partner that you choose. Right.
Speaker 1: I was watching one episode when a girl. He asked
Speaker 1: what the girl was and she was like a tin,
Speaker 1: Like she was clearly like a four. So she was
Speaker 1: like clearly a four. And I understand that all women
Speaker 1: are talk that you're a princess and that the world's
Speaker 1: supposed to revolving around you. But if you are four,
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a good when so everyone knows
Speaker 1: or has an average. So I can look at good
Speaker 1: ladies at this table, and I can say, I can
Speaker 1: look at this table and say it's a beautiful women. Right,
Speaker 1: So I think that's pretty universal. Anywhere you go, you
Speaker 1: would think that you're beautiful if you two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy five pounds five one. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: With a bad lace front, we we t teeth missing.
Speaker 1: You know you're not a ten. But you know that
Speaker 1: for the one of two people, for the people that
Speaker 1: it appeals to, that's not that's not you know overall
Speaker 1: you know you because because I call it the love market.
Speaker 1: The love market, tell you what your number is. Easy.
Speaker 1: If you walk in a restaurant, you walk in the club. Right.
Speaker 1: If you're walk in a restaurant and you're pretty, I
Speaker 1: can go to most restaurants and drink and eat for free. Right,
Speaker 1: that's some chicks that night, and I they're not gonna
Speaker 1: go anywhere and eat and drink for free. Right, You're
Speaker 1: not gonna give me a drink? Said none of that. Right,
Speaker 1: You're gonna walk in and you're gonna be like, you
Speaker 1: give me a drink and everybody. So that's a very
Speaker 1: easy Do you know what your your doumb was off?
Speaker 1: Those women wanted what did they call them? What did
Speaker 1: they say? They want to high valued men. But they
Speaker 1: were not speaking on your average man because clearly they
Speaker 1: could get them. They wanted high valued men and their
Speaker 1: high value mean in their minds, how high valued was money?
Speaker 1: And he said high valued? It's not just money? What
Speaker 1: definition collection? His definition of high value man was not
Speaker 1: just the money you've made. For instance, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of athletes who made a million dollars this year,
Speaker 1: if they're not high value this amount of money you
Speaker 1: made over a certain period of time unless your social connections,
Speaker 1: social connections from for instance, when his family contacted me,
Speaker 1: I could have money, but I know I might not
Speaker 1: have the connections that necessary to make sure it's done
Speaker 1: and that done and that done. Um. You know for instance,
Speaker 1: both of you guys, I've I've contributed to both of y'all's.
Speaker 1: Can we appreciate that to thank you very much? And
Speaker 1: so you do that that takes time and knowledge and
Speaker 1: the understanding that I may need friends in the future.
Speaker 1: So that's what he meant. Also by you know your
Speaker 1: social connection, and thought, you send me that money because
Speaker 1: you like me many because I believe I examine your
Speaker 1: and I knew that you would be the best man
Speaker 1: for that job. And I felt the same way about you.
Speaker 1: But it's not just about money, and people get caught
Speaker 1: up into that. And then also and Kevin, it was dynamic,
Speaker 1: and people that get caught up with our women get
Speaker 1: caught up in that. I think, I think it's women,
Speaker 1: bro this women man, women, yes, because but but but
Speaker 1: but Brad, I gotta tell a story to go ahead.
Speaker 1: They're even guys who don't have money who think he's
Speaker 1: offending them too. There are a lot of guys whore
Speaker 1: offended by boy. He said some ship. That was so
Speaker 1: funny to me. Dog he said how he said, how
Speaker 1: tall are you? He say? Five? Way? He saying, and
Speaker 1: how much you ways? The two say five? He said,
Speaker 1: you got and you may phone it out of the weekend.
Speaker 1: He said, you got a big dick. I mean, And
Speaker 1: it was funny. But but look, man, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: what the fun was? I gonna say, you said you
Speaker 1: got a story. I have a hell of a story,
Speaker 1: but I can't remember the motherfucker. One thing about it
Speaker 1: is that Kevin was an equal opportunity insultor and also
Speaker 1: also critiqued. You know, like the thing is that, well,
Speaker 1: before Kevin started going at women or his centering his
Speaker 1: platform around women, he was he was critiquing men. He
Speaker 1: was giving advice to men for years and me and
Speaker 1: accepted it. You didn't see any outrage. I mean you said,
Speaker 1: you saw some man that you know didn't tune in.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, me and accepted it. It
Speaker 1: was men who built his platform. And once those videos
Speaker 1: started going viral, women started watching. And then that's when
Speaker 1: the criticism came. Well that's because me and accepted. We
Speaker 1: know you. We know a pack and order from when
Speaker 1: we kids. He was an athlete growing up. You know
Speaker 1: you're packing order. You know you was an entertainer. You
Speaker 1: know you're packing order. You was an ugly dude in school.
Speaker 1: You know you're packing order. Used the cute dude, a
Speaker 1: nice looking dude, the ass dude in school. You had
Speaker 1: all the women. You knew you're packing order. We accepted.
Speaker 1: It's women that don't accepted packing order. It's six is
Speaker 1: saying that they should have a team because they mamas
Speaker 1: told them that you should have a team. You were
Speaker 1: the greatest thing since slice bread to your mama, not
Speaker 1: to everybody else, to your mother. That's mean, it's ship.
Speaker 1: I think we're basing on the scale on on gender currency,
Speaker 1: like like, ok okay, so what do you bring to
Speaker 1: the table is the question? Right? Men have gender currency? Right,
Speaker 1: like like men have uh men bring uh their finances,
Speaker 1: they bring uh protection strength to the table. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go, women, women, women, women. That's that's not a
Speaker 1: social dick. It's not a social currency. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: not not a social but the gender currency. No, pussy
Speaker 1: is a gender currency. Nobody ever started a wall over
Speaker 1: some dick. Okay, but but you alright, it's not expensive.
Speaker 1: Well he referred to it as a sexual marketplace value, okay.
Speaker 1: And that's based on women who are fit, feminine, their youth,
Speaker 1: and for men is based on your your physical fitness,
Speaker 1: how much money you may and your in your social status.
Speaker 1: So that's when you put those two together, then it
Speaker 1: determines what you can get on the market. Basically, he
Speaker 1: treated it like and you have to understand. Primarily, Kevin
Speaker 1: was a businessman and he saw it. He saw the
Speaker 1: sexual marketplace as a business. What can I leverage to
Speaker 1: get what I want? Now, if you're a man who
Speaker 1: is five ft one, three hundred pounds and make four
Speaker 1: dollars a month, and you're not going to be able
Speaker 1: to leverage much on the secretary, you know, you know what?
Speaker 1: And I think women understand that, Like, will you just
Speaker 1: explain that? I think every woman and he heard that
Speaker 1: the I'm talking about for men I'm talking about he
Speaker 1: just that that example. He just game man, if you
Speaker 1: file one three hundred pounds, uh, you know, make four
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a week. I don't see a lot of
Speaker 1: women saying, yeah, him to go back on your packing order.
Speaker 1: We know ours as well. I don't think there's a
Speaker 1: person in the world that hasn't dealt with since school, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the attention that I get, whether it's at
Speaker 1: home or from strangers. Like girls know the same way.
Speaker 1: Guys know. If you never got attention, it shows in
Speaker 1: your adulthood. Regardless of your age. New attention shows very loudly.
Speaker 1: Girl podcast will be right back back the let's say
Speaker 1: you've never met a man before, and your friend gives
Speaker 1: you a description of this guy. Girl. He five for one,
Speaker 1: he makes four a week. Sounds like somebody you might
Speaker 1: remotely think that day. No no you saying if you
Speaker 1: say no money, you know because to a man you
Speaker 1: said she had no money. She has no education, but
Speaker 1: she got no money knowing it, but she bade you.
Speaker 1: Still most hidden who they are they gonna fun with that.
Speaker 1: That's the differencetween me and and pointed out men. You
Speaker 1: don't care about your education, you don't care about your money.
Speaker 1: I care about what she looks like. That was a wagon, beautiful, feminine.
Speaker 1: He had the acronym for pretty much all. I get
Speaker 1: what he was saying. You know what I say? Women
Speaker 1: that face spans out there like that. You know donald
Speaker 1: women know how many McDonald women? How many McDonald's women
Speaker 1: smash me? I'm the one man right right? You don't
Speaker 1: smash your other comedy and be like, hey, where you at?
Speaker 1: Where I need to be? H big head slapped me out.
Speaker 1: Depending upon their experience, what they've been through, what past
Speaker 1: relationship looks like, and that's also driving a lot of
Speaker 1: people's preferences and what they think they can get because
Speaker 1: a man that just cashed his check, that's not looking
Speaker 1: amazing that day, but he just cashed his check's feeling
Speaker 1: really great about himself. He's feeling really good. He didn't
Speaker 1: got all his ones in his pocket, so that has
Speaker 1: boosted his ego. So that drives a man too, could
Speaker 1: drive a man to a certain type of woman. Also,
Speaker 1: don't let's like a woman like a woman. You know,
Speaker 1: they just say a lot of ball players. They think
Speaker 1: they're supposed to keep getting ball players for some reason.
Speaker 1: That's how they feel, you know, so like they're not
Speaker 1: just gonna say, oh, well you got the average Joe.
Speaker 1: Did you know, make good money or whatever? You know,
Speaker 1: good looking guy. Eventually reality does call. But go home
Speaker 1: describes a lot of women, right that. That's that's it.
Speaker 1: Like that you say, your life starting to show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your stomach getting big, it's time come on back home, Like,
Speaker 1: come on back home and just let me out. You
Speaker 1: should look at your NFL career, your first contract through
Speaker 1: your twenties. That's when you get all the money. Everybody
Speaker 1: want to recruit you. Everybody wants to bring you on
Speaker 1: the team, and I don't care how good you is.
Speaker 1: Once you hit that second contract, how good? You said,
Speaker 1: the second contract you're not as worth as much as
Speaker 1: the first contract. And if you make it to the
Speaker 1: third contract your forties, you're not what you as your
Speaker 1: second second contract first contract. We don't know enough to
Speaker 1: know what we are even negotiating for it yet, but
Speaker 1: that's what we want you to right because when you
Speaker 1: hittract when your forties is like, that's most players that's
Speaker 1: getting drafted, all pretty much making the same money. But
Speaker 1: that second contract is the one yea and I want
Speaker 1: to exactly you want to date, you know, other races
Speaker 1: and everything like that. It's the same thing. Both sides
Speaker 1: have equal opportunity to do whatever that they want. It's
Speaker 1: a certain group of people that you're talking to, so
Speaker 1: where between the age and the classiesm that we're talking
Speaker 1: about that that applies to, but that this whole rhetoric
Speaker 1: doesn't apply to everybody. Pretty persistent across the board. And
Speaker 1: Kevin said, for for those women that wanted these high
Speaker 1: value men, he said, how many do you know? They
Speaker 1: didn't open? So that goes back to what you said, like,
Speaker 1: if how do you want this and you're not that
Speaker 1: and you don't even know those people you're not even
Speaker 1: in those social settings. Even I think every man a
Speaker 1: greevance with you on that. I don't think you're an
Speaker 1: argument from us with that. You don't have one. So biblica.
Speaker 1: Fox called Kevin a hypocrite right because of the way
Speaker 1: that he lived his life. Um, she said he did
Speaker 1: what he told women uh not to do? What was that?
Speaker 1: This is this is right after Kevin died. She had
Speaker 1: made the comment. She called Kevin a hypocrite and said
Speaker 1: that he was having uh he did with he won
Speaker 1: women again and that was he was with a woman
Speaker 1: that was not black. And that's that's that's what she said.
Speaker 1: He was with a woman that was not black and
Speaker 1: she was uh in her opinion, I guess overweight and
Speaker 1: what so that's that's that's a complete farce. She's obviously uninformed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably should watch it because she's gonna get herself for
Speaker 1: defamation damn lawsuit that's from the or or. Uh. These
Speaker 1: disparaging remarks are just gonna cause for his fan base
Speaker 1: to um. Definitely already just a lot of times we
Speaker 1: we we balked at the idea of let's wait to
Speaker 1: get all the facts and before we make a decision.
Speaker 1: Vivica Fox and all of these different people have obviously
Speaker 1: made a crucial era and jumping to conclusions without even
Speaker 1: knowing the facts. They're basing their information on what's on
Speaker 1: the internet. And if you begin to base your information
Speaker 1: and your knowledge on the Internet purely without double checking,
Speaker 1: you're gonna make a mistake. And that's what you saw
Speaker 1: happen there. So I'm I would suggest that all of
Speaker 1: these periodicals, media media, take out l A Times, the
Speaker 1: New York Times, begin to very be very careful with
Speaker 1: the statements that they're making. Again, I'm not representing the
Speaker 1: estate of Kevin Samuels. He has his own attorneys for that.
Speaker 1: We're in talks with the same lawyers who represented uh
Speaker 1: Cardi b both in in Atlanta and New York, and
Speaker 1: they should probably be very careful about this. You know
Speaker 1: this again, this is my friend, okay, and you know
Speaker 1: I look forward to doing business with him. But the
Speaker 1: thing that I'm looking out for now is his mother
Speaker 1: and his daughter who's trying to graduate from college on Saturday,
Speaker 1: and for her to see her she is not her
Speaker 1: father is not. His only daughter is graduated from college
Speaker 1: on Saturday, and he's not gonna be there to see her.
Speaker 1: His poor mother, who didn't even know he was famous,
Speaker 1: had to learn about her son dying from the internet.
Speaker 1: There have been news reporters contacting his mother, who was
Speaker 1: in her seventies, to try to get her response to
Speaker 1: the n one tape where this woman is frantically trying
Speaker 1: to save his life. They want her response. This has
Speaker 1: been a despicable display all the way around. And when
Speaker 1: you have artists and entertainers like that who are just
Speaker 1: trouncing on his man's reputation, recognized that my friend is dead.
Speaker 1: He is dead, He is not here, he is not conscious.
Speaker 1: But his little girl and his mother have to see this,
Speaker 1: and so they should be much more responsible with the
Speaker 1: things that they say. And I'm not saying that as
Speaker 1: as an attorney or as a spokesperson, but as a
Speaker 1: human being. When you say vifica foxes in the case
Speaker 1: study of what he's talking about. So she was, she's
Speaker 1: that chick, and now she's the old chick that don't
Speaker 1: get the dudes and the guys and the likes and
Speaker 1: the wants that she once was. And now somebody like
Speaker 1: them like like like she can just let me out,
Speaker 1: just right, really because I saw women. I saw women.
Speaker 1: I only saw women that was really angry that fit
Speaker 1: a bid. I saw some women disagree what he said,
Speaker 1: but only the anger and and and and the some
Speaker 1: of the nastiness always came for women to fit the
Speaker 1: bill of what Kevin was talking about. They didn't actually
Speaker 1: listen to the whole thing. They once again, just the clips.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, because I only saw clips like
Speaker 1: on Instagram and stuff, and it would infuriate me because
Speaker 1: it was like, oh my gosh, like there's already so
Speaker 1: many young men that don't have male figures or father
Speaker 1: figures in their life. And if we're going to put
Speaker 1: toxicity in the mix where we already have that in
Speaker 1: our culture, right, like music, it's in everything. Um, this
Speaker 1: is what this is all they have. But then a
Speaker 1: friend of ours was like, no, watch the full videos,
Speaker 1: like see the full message. And I think both of
Speaker 1: you are right. It is based on um, those of
Speaker 1: us that are tone sensitive, sometimes your message is not
Speaker 1: going to get across to me depending on the way
Speaker 1: that you say it. And it's okay, I know that
Speaker 1: about myself that made you feel like he was toxic. Um,
Speaker 1: let's see a basic summarization because I'm not going to
Speaker 1: quote this man. I cannot quote him. Um, two things,
Speaker 1: one for for women. First, I'm just talking for me
Speaker 1: that you felt like, oh my god, he says, I'm
Speaker 1: horrible about me, that you should not date unless you
Speaker 1: have a certain amount of money. I don't remember exactly. Again,
Speaker 1: I felt like, especially men in their early twenties, you
Speaker 1: should be outdating and see what that looks like and
Speaker 1: feels like for you, so that you can figure it
Speaker 1: out for yourself, like make your own path. Yes, you
Speaker 1: should be okay to where you can take a woman out,
Speaker 1: but don't wait until you have your life all the
Speaker 1: way together, because if you wait until your thirty five
Speaker 1: forty to date a woman for real, for the first time,
Speaker 1: it may not go so well. And that's my opinion.
Speaker 1: So you felt for men like that's so because you
Speaker 1: Women don't have the problems with what he said about men.
Speaker 1: They only have the problem and they say about women.
Speaker 1: And if if I was talking to my son, I
Speaker 1: would tell my son to wait later in life before
Speaker 1: he getting a serious relationship. I don't think he was
Speaker 1: saying don't date well before you try of like wife
Speaker 1: someone up. You should take care of certain things in
Speaker 1: your life, so you'll be able to be that man
Speaker 1: that you want. My man tell him about how strong
Speaker 1: his sons is already, right, so he's teaching them there's
Speaker 1: certain things, are certain values that they're gonna have. As
Speaker 1: a kid, my father told me as a man, the
Speaker 1: bare minimal, I should be a provider or what I said.
Speaker 1: I said the world was bare minimum and say that
Speaker 1: was it? He said, but that ba minimal. You got
Speaker 1: a lot of brothers that even covering that part, they
Speaker 1: ain't that bare minimal. They're not being the provider in
Speaker 1: their homes. So why would you have a problem with
Speaker 1: him telling brothers go out there or four jobs if
Speaker 1: you have to, because they we want the high value
Speaker 1: woman too, So how are you gonna get the high
Speaker 1: value woman? Because that's why he was talking about to do?
Speaker 1: That was five one three hundred pounds making four hundred dollars. Like,
Speaker 1: why do you have a problem with the real have
Speaker 1: someone telling you the truth? Well, if you I didn't
Speaker 1: say that, right, like I gave you a very specific
Speaker 1: example of what I had an issue with. I don't
Speaker 1: have an issue with him saying if you want to
Speaker 1: be that twelve percent man, go work those four jobs
Speaker 1: or however many jobs he said, work at McDonald's. You
Speaker 1: know again, I can't give you verbatim what this man said,
Speaker 1: and no disrespect to anything that he had to say.
Speaker 1: It was his opinion. We all have the right high opinions, um,
Speaker 1: but I don't. The only thing I strongly disagree with
Speaker 1: is telling people not to go out and find themselves
Speaker 1: regardless of where they are, because there is someone, no
Speaker 1: matter what, that's gonna met you. Yeah, because he didn't
Speaker 1: say that, he didn't. Everybody's not gonna be work at McDonald's.
Speaker 1: Not to go get to McDonald's, girl, but he's. But
Speaker 1: his staying was get your ship together. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something that resonated with me because I grew
Speaker 1: up poor. I grew up disadvantage and a lot of
Speaker 1: the reason why that was so much trauma and trauma
Speaker 1: in my life was because of insufficient living. Uh. And
Speaker 1: so I recognized that early on. So I promised myself
Speaker 1: that I would not procreate and until I got some
Speaker 1: real money. No, I'm just enough money to take care
Speaker 1: of the babies, but enough for me to enjoy our life. Also,
Speaker 1: I understood that at an early age. Because if you
Speaker 1: bring children into this world and you ain't got no
Speaker 1: fucking money, you're gonna bring them into a world where
Speaker 1: they're at a social disadvantage. They are gonna go out there.
Speaker 1: They're gonna see other kids having ship, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: want that ship, and they're gonna compromise their convictions. They're
Speaker 1: gonna compromise whatever it is you taught to them. It's
Speaker 1: gonna break down. It's gonna it's gonna break down all
Speaker 1: those walls. They're gonna cross all those boundaries, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna become something that you don't want to see. So
Speaker 1: it is incompetent of all of us. I do believe
Speaker 1: that we get our ship together financially, especially a man
Speaker 1: at the bad minimum, you get your ship together financially
Speaker 1: before you start, you know, pro creating. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something else. I don't even feel like having X.
Speaker 1: And I know I might be in this, I might
Speaker 1: be in the in the minority here. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I don't feel like no, I
Speaker 1: don't this is me, this this is but this is
Speaker 1: me when I was even broke. I don't I'm not
Speaker 1: even the move for sex. If my ship ain't right,
Speaker 1: my money right, I can't even get excited. And that
Speaker 1: was that you in your early twies. In my early twinnies,
Speaker 1: because I was always about I understood I was on
Speaker 1: a mission. I knew I had to get the papers,
Speaker 1: I had to get to the PA. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I didn't have sex. I'm not saying I didn't have sex.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I did not have sex. But I'm
Speaker 1: telling you it was difficult for me to really be
Speaker 1: there when I was broke, because I was always thinken
Speaker 1: by like I got to get out of this shifty
Speaker 1: as position, like I'm in another thing. Another Another thing
Speaker 1: is I do believe that sex is a reward for
Speaker 1: hard work. I agree that he was. He was a
Speaker 1: wealthy and so a lot of the concepts that he
Speaker 1: got from, you know, I understand. For instance, Dr Francis
Speaker 1: Kress Wilson suggested that black men and women in this
Speaker 1: country should not get married before the age of thirty
Speaker 1: five of men, specifically in women thirty because of the
Speaker 1: system of white supremacy racism. Even the honor of alaj
Speaker 1: Muhammad spoke about black men getting themselves together cleaning themselves
Speaker 1: up before they decided to procreate, because all you do
Speaker 1: is exactly what William Be said. You bring children into
Speaker 1: this world and you're ill prepared to take care of them.
Speaker 1: I say the same things to my sons. And if
Speaker 1: you take that pressure off of them to be with
Speaker 1: a woman in their twenties when they're not ready, then
Speaker 1: you take that pressure off of them so they can
Speaker 1: then build themselves up and be the pillars of the
Speaker 1: black community that we need them to be, as opposed
Speaker 1: to rushing out there thinking their men before their time
Speaker 1: period and then doing something stupid or being feel feel
Speaker 1: like in order to prove myself to be a man,
Speaker 1: I have to sell drugs. I had to get money anyway.
Speaker 1: I gotta get rich or die trying at nineteen years old.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I know, I understand, and all these men
Speaker 1: in here understand a masculine mentality, and Kevin Understanding understood
Speaker 1: it too, and that's why I said, look, get yourself
Speaker 1: together first, it's greater or later. Don't rush, because if
Speaker 1: you make these men feel rushed, they're gonna do what
Speaker 1: you all call crazy things. That's why you have so
Speaker 1: much economic crime going on during Christmas men want to
Speaker 1: feel like men, so they go out and start robbing
Speaker 1: grocery stores and banks and whatnot. And that's why you
Speaker 1: have such an uptick and crime and breaking the entries
Speaker 1: during these these time periods where men are expected to
Speaker 1: demand and the only way they're expected to meet the demand,
Speaker 1: and the only way you can meet that demand is
Speaker 1: through financial sufficiency to your woman and that and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on men to meet that, you know,
Speaker 1: those those terms. And let me ask the women in here,
Speaker 1: who amongst us are dating? Uh? Seeing a guy that
Speaker 1: makes less than five a week? I want to wait listening? Okay,
Speaker 1: are you dating? Are you dating? You're not even dating
Speaker 1: at all? You know dating? Okay? How much you make mortifier? Okay?
Speaker 1: See that goes to Kevin's point, like we can talk
Speaker 1: about money all we want to, and we can try
Speaker 1: to put that number on it all we want to.
Speaker 1: But every single woman you know has a number? All right,
Speaker 1: what's that? What's the magic? Now? Every single woman has
Speaker 1: every single woman number? What's the best? What's the best?
Speaker 1: You don't have you don't have another, you don't have enough? Man,
Speaker 1: So you're saying you gotta make no did you have
Speaker 1: a number you want, would you dat a man to
Speaker 1: make sure I don't know you would make that's good? No?
Speaker 1: You okay, but but it's okay. You don't want somebody
Speaker 1: to make more than fifty thou but you don't want
Speaker 1: to make over fifty thousands if he can like wrong
Speaker 1: point we're talking about how dude make fifty thousand, but
Speaker 1: he good with it? You can thousand, definitely, not that's
Speaker 1: so much you can stress fifty thousand that somebody more
Speaker 1: than me. I want somebody to right her is more
Speaker 1: important than right now? Right he makes fifty right now,
Speaker 1: But but there's a plan to you know, I aim higher,
Speaker 1: get better thirty four. So what's like, how old is
Speaker 1: this dude that's making his fifty not younger than thirty?
Speaker 1: You got one more by the way, Yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: making pip that you tell him about. He gonna have
Speaker 1: aspiration to make more, aspiration to make more, or he
Speaker 1: can Christ Jan or my situation, we're not value you
Speaker 1: make it. Then if you make it to forty and
Speaker 1: you're still making fifty gees, there's no Chris Jan in
Speaker 1: your way nowhere. Maybe if he went a lottery, maybe
Speaker 1: he's just I don't know. He This is the type
Speaker 1: of nonsense that we're talking about. Right, If you fIF
Speaker 1: four years old and you make fifty thousand, there's no
Speaker 1: aspiration you you're thirty years old because you don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of aspirations and you're making fifty's have started
Speaker 1: sometimes shouldn't be. That's why we're not answering your question.
Speaker 1: Start over, Yeah, people do start over. A lot of
Speaker 1: people start over in multimillion. I don't understand what every
Speaker 1: man that makes this magical amount of money and we're
Speaker 1: upset at them asking us for anything, and that's not
Speaker 1: the case. Say one more time, I'm missing Williams. So
Speaker 1: we might be on the other side of what you're describing.
Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like to me at this table,
Speaker 1: like we may be a little bit money honestly with
Speaker 1: dated guy or one a dated guy to say that
Speaker 1: one to day to guy to make fifty I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true, because you may be
Speaker 1: at a table with women that believe in partnership exactly.
Speaker 1: That's what I said. I'm not in a partnership. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to in a partnership and then you'll break
Speaker 1: up that mentality comes into play when the tables turner,
Speaker 1: because the tables can go and that's not fair because
Speaker 1: are you in the partner that's personal, that's what that's
Speaker 1: turn at time. And then y'all broke up. And then
Speaker 1: how do you like the partner to partners in general?
Speaker 1: I'm speaking, you know, like to like nice clothes? I
Speaker 1: do you know, like nice wash? And I guess for me,
Speaker 1: like I'm okay with with taking care of what I
Speaker 1: need for myself first and foremost. Okay, I would never
Speaker 1: because I would never do that for myself without a partner.
Speaker 1: So my expectations for myself and first, and they're very high.
Speaker 1: That the davy you're embracing around, so that means that
Speaker 1: means you want to live a certain type of lifestyle
Speaker 1: and if you do, makes fifty ge gee partnership. But no,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to live that. Like I
Speaker 1: had a panel work I think you was that when
Speaker 1: a young lady was an attorney and she got up
Speaker 1: and said this nonsense, right, this this only I want
Speaker 1: to partnership and I want to love him from the
Speaker 1: south to the north, and then we'll come up together.
Speaker 1: She said she wanted to make a day to do
Speaker 1: like dollars go to voids revoting podcast will be right
Speaker 1: back after the poet just talk about us aging out. Now,
Speaker 1: the ave is that, well, if we're talking about what
Speaker 1: Kevin was saying, he's referring to something that's been um
Speaker 1: In China, they have something called leftover Women. Let me
Speaker 1: give it to you. It's an article that came out
Speaker 1: about seven years ago, and China is going bankrupt because
Speaker 1: they have so many or actually a South Korea, they
Speaker 1: have so many women who are unmarried and they're not
Speaker 1: contributing to the tax base because women don't make enough
Speaker 1: money to support themselves in in in the society. Same
Speaker 1: thing here in the United States. Men make more money,
Speaker 1: We contribute more to the tax base. It is the
Speaker 1: men's tax money that pays for the roads, that pays
Speaker 1: for the ambulance or the utilities that we use. It's men.
Speaker 1: So when a woman has a job she's not making,
Speaker 1: you are not paying enough back in the system to
Speaker 1: take care of her end of the social financial contract
Speaker 1: that you have with the country. So that's what's going on.
Speaker 1: In South Korea. They refer to it as leftover women,
Speaker 1: and they point to the age of twenty seven, they
Speaker 1: are now having problems like and they are having problems
Speaker 1: with sustaining their country. And so Kevin quantified that and said, okay, well,
Speaker 1: black American women, the age is thirty five when they
Speaker 1: stopped being beneficial to uh and I don't want to
Speaker 1: he had this study down, but that's what he meant,
Speaker 1: and he's relating it to the United States. Here, ladies,
Speaker 1: use this. This is what's going on in in South Korea,
Speaker 1: and it's also going on in Japan. So this is
Speaker 1: not just an American phenomenon. It's happening all of the
Speaker 1: western western based countries in Japan. I know people whood
Speaker 1: it's in the east, but it's they're still more Western
Speaker 1: than Eastern. Without giving a resolution to that, so at
Speaker 1: thirty five, you you you age out right, you're done?
Speaker 1: So what what is this suggestion that a woman should
Speaker 1: do at that point? Lower your expectations? And so I
Speaker 1: had said that like previously that you know, what he
Speaker 1: says is harsh, the messaging, it stings, it's like a
Speaker 1: mean dad. But there's a lot of truth to what
Speaker 1: he says. I think his intent is to motivate, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't always do that. Like it goes in the
Speaker 1: other directions sometimes because he throws in those. But you know,
Speaker 1: with the unrealistic expectations, he would ask you to be honest,
Speaker 1: he would ask you what you look like, and you're
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five pounds, like you was a
Speaker 1: ten stop. Come on, still think these ways that you
Speaker 1: can communicate effectively. We're giving with where you can because
Speaker 1: people will receive it if they can understand. They actually
Speaker 1: will receive it from entertainment. And it could be starting
Speaker 1: somebody very calmly and tried to deliver it nicely. She
Speaker 1: did not get it. She kept saying, but but or
Speaker 1: I think, or I have a business story. But she
Speaker 1: kept making excuses. And then that's when he his brother
Speaker 1: brought it up. The more money I make and more
Speaker 1: educated you are, that you're more value to us per se.
Speaker 1: And if a man is really making money, like he's
Speaker 1: really making he's what they because I would call it
Speaker 1: high value. Man. I say men to check all the
Speaker 1: boxes because I want to say I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: say because he made more money than him, or he
Speaker 1: made more man of him that somehow he's more valuable.
Speaker 1: But they're about high value is low, So I say,
Speaker 1: check all the boxes. So if the more boxes you check,
Speaker 1: the more valuable you're gonna be in anything, whether it's
Speaker 1: a car, whether it's a commodity, whether it's a business
Speaker 1: where you know, whether it's relationships. The more the boxes
Speaker 1: you check, the more value your you have. Women only
Speaker 1: checking four or five boxes trying to get a man
Speaker 1: with it checks tin boxes and it's just unrealistic. So
Speaker 1: I think then at the core he was saying, just
Speaker 1: be more realistic. Stop lying to yourself. That's what I
Speaker 1: always say when a woman said, well I date a
Speaker 1: man to make fifty and then use cold words like ambitious. No,
Speaker 1: it don't go together, right that that type of ambition.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you might need the right woman by his side
Speaker 1: to get him to where he needs to go, because
Speaker 1: sometimes part times at different times. And like I said,
Speaker 1: we talked about COVID people starting over, like I mean
Speaker 1: just to put everything in a box, and said you
Speaker 1: need to make this amount of money, Like I just
Speaker 1: don't think that's really If you talk to me a
Speaker 1: man and made four hundred thousand dollars a year, right
Speaker 1: and then went through COVID and he's making fifty, that's
Speaker 1: something totally different. What we're all saying is we don't
Speaker 1: want to use these one offs that women always do.
Speaker 1: I know somebody to live in Michigan where the woman
Speaker 1: makes six hundred thousand and he made twenty and they
Speaker 1: have a harmonious relationship. The fact that the matter is
Speaker 1: that usually doesn't work. So if you're forty years old
Speaker 1: and you're still making fifty and you've been making it
Speaker 1: for the last ten years of your life most of
Speaker 1: the time, that is where your ambition lot. Now, there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that because I got cousins that make fifty.
Speaker 1: They have great lives, but they're they're equally yoke with
Speaker 1: the woman that with they make forty or thirty, they
Speaker 1: make fifty, and lifestyle is that of right, that makes
Speaker 1: that type of money. But you have these women that
Speaker 1: want to live, you know, the three hundred four hundred
Speaker 1: dollar life, talking about what our day to do that
Speaker 1: make fifty and you got you know, you know, if
Speaker 1: you even do it for yourself, it's even worse. You've
Speaker 1: got ten thousand dollars on your risks. It's just not
Speaker 1: gonna work. This is all based on math and data.
Speaker 1: When I haven't heard one of you say, oh the
Speaker 1: love or how this person makes me a criminal dollars
Speaker 1: a year. It happens like every woman that gets that
Speaker 1: makes that much less to him, that that loves her
Speaker 1: to death is bored with him within a year. Well,
Speaker 1: look at our society now you're talking about so many
Speaker 1: women being unwed or the divorce rates being so high.
Speaker 1: If we're going based off of your numbers, don't match
Speaker 1: my numbers, or you know, because I'm living this way,
Speaker 1: I should be able to have ever any women or
Speaker 1: do whatever I want. If we're all gonna go by
Speaker 1: the same thing and we're all not matching up to that,
Speaker 1: then where is that going to leave us? I think
Speaker 1: there's something that Kevin understood that a lot of us
Speaker 1: who study this relationship phenomena and understand love was never
Speaker 1: traditionally a part of marriage. It's a recent invention since
Speaker 1: the seventeen hundreds, partly that it was about duty and
Speaker 1: who matches well together. Your family has this land, Our
Speaker 1: family has this heard as cheap. So we're gonna come
Speaker 1: together and y'all are gonna make a family because it's
Speaker 1: beneficial for society. What Kevin was pointing out, he always said,
Speaker 1: it's me me society that we have. So it's not
Speaker 1: about and today's day, it's about me, me, me, as
Speaker 1: opposed to the family that we're going to come together
Speaker 1: make so love it's not about marriage, is not about love.
Speaker 1: It's about duty. That's why those marriages lasted so long,
Speaker 1: because the duty outlasted the love. You can fall out
Speaker 1: of love pretty quickly because it's a feeling, you know,
Speaker 1: just like you can go for man had too angry,
Speaker 1: too happy to say, but duty remains. And I think
Speaker 1: that's the thing Kevin is trying to point out. But
Speaker 1: another point that you had, you brought up how he
Speaker 1: talked to you. Now, I'm in a room full of guys.
Speaker 1: Imagine your football coach said, Hey, I want you to
Speaker 1: go over there and their crossed, you know, a hunter
Speaker 1: of yards and I want you to hit him full speed.
Speaker 1: But okay, So why can't you talk to me in
Speaker 1: like that because they're masculine and they're gonna laugh at you,
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna hear you, and they're not gonna
Speaker 1: respect you. Now, I think what Kevin realized is that
Speaker 1: because of the society that we live in, because women
Speaker 1: have been women have been forced to work like men.
Speaker 1: They've been taught to if you work like a man
Speaker 1: and think like a woman or something, and if you
Speaker 1: go to school and get a job and you know
Speaker 1: you act like a man, then you'll get treated better.
Speaker 1: But in effect, what's happened is they become masculine. And
Speaker 1: he pointed that out every night. So how do you
Speaker 1: talk to if you got to talk to a masculine man,
Speaker 1: rough for to click, you gotta trying to talk to
Speaker 1: a masculinized woman. I think that now that you see,
Speaker 1: that's not across the board. But I think that's what
Speaker 1: he realized. And we're talking about communication, not what was said,
Speaker 1: but was an effective communication if he was If this
Speaker 1: guy was the type of person I could say, look,
Speaker 1: I want you to hit the three hole, talk the
Speaker 1: ball and he responded to that fine, But if I said, hey,
Speaker 1: get your butt through that all blah blah, it might
Speaker 1: need to happen. It's about effective communication. Remember, this is
Speaker 1: a business man that we're talking about, and businessmen don't
Speaker 1: want to waste their time. So as a businessman, was
Speaker 1: he given an effective communication with what he was saying
Speaker 1: that that's what you have to look at. Sterilize it,
Speaker 1: recognize what this man was trying to do is separate
Speaker 1: yourself from your emotions. And I think you're getting better
Speaker 1: understand that. We all agree to that if you feel
Speaker 1: back all those layers of chaos and you know, cut
Speaker 1: downs and being rude, that there's some evident truth to
Speaker 1: what he was saying, but it's just not if his
Speaker 1: intent is to help and to educate, you're gonna understand
Speaker 1: your audience, You're gonna lose a lot of people with
Speaker 1: the world because Kevin, what Kevin said, what Kevin said
Speaker 1: the way he said it, women would not be following
Speaker 1: him right now, they wouldn't not be talking about and
Speaker 1: we would not even be doing this show right now
Speaker 1: if he said it in a nicey type of way.
Speaker 1: Because and here's the thing, women are not mad at
Speaker 1: him because of his delivery, because there are a penny
Speaker 1: of men out there on YouTube and social media that
Speaker 1: are making disparaging content about women every single day, and
Speaker 1: these women are not following these men. They followed Kevin
Speaker 1: because Kevin was charismatic. Kevin was stylish, he was handsome,
Speaker 1: he was educated, he had money, he had all the things,
Speaker 1: and he was charming. He was funny, he had many
Speaker 1: of the attributes that women want, that they looked for
Speaker 1: and they dress why they with him saying, let me
Speaker 1: go listen to this guy who it's like the guy
Speaker 1: that I want, and he's saying ship telling me how
Speaker 1: to get one. So that's why I'm going to go
Speaker 1: here and listen to Kevin. That's why they were tuning
Speaker 1: in to listen to Kevin. And then like it's like
Speaker 1: the love guru here said, when they couldn't check those boxes,
Speaker 1: that's when it that's when it became a problem. I
Speaker 1: do believe. I believe. I believe that the venom came
Speaker 1: from those who couldn't check those They couldn't check those boxes,
Speaker 1: and that's when that's when the venom came right. And
Speaker 1: so then people automatically they completely disconnect. But if if,
Speaker 1: if we could get women and you can't get every
Speaker 1: woman to listen in with without emotion, but if I
Speaker 1: can listen because he didn't really bother me or really offended,
Speaker 1: because I honestly listened because I felt like, you know what,
Speaker 1: this could potentially be free game, So let me listen.
Speaker 1: Because if he thinks like this, then there's a lot
Speaker 1: of men that think like this. Million figure out how
Speaker 1: to manipulate this. Every women that check most of the
Speaker 1: boxes listen. It would be just like somebody walked there
Speaker 1: here and say all broke niggers need to go home.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't not a must? Will be like damped get out
Speaker 1: of here. You know, we were angry because it wouldn't
Speaker 1: apply to us. You're right about it. We were not getting.
Speaker 1: What about the woman that's trying to be better though,
Speaker 1: because there's the flip side game that was trying to get.
Speaker 1: He gave that game. Did you did you listen? Yes,
Speaker 1: he did. They didn't want to. Did you listen to something?
Speaker 1: You prove my point? Not ch, but you said the
Speaker 1: people who actually you said they check off the boxes
Speaker 1: or don't who listened to him said boxes listen? The
Speaker 1: ones that the least amount of boxes were angry. And
Speaker 1: they're angry because he knew. She knew. You've been a church,
Speaker 1: and you've been a church and the preachers talking about
Speaker 1: something and you get offitted because they think they looking
Speaker 1: straight at him and they talking talking to him or
Speaker 1: them or her, Because y'all those chicks thought he was
Speaker 1: talking straight to them, calling the show. They needed the advice.
Speaker 1: I've never made a chick. That was a nine. That
Speaker 1: was upset of never never, We're not talking. But I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna argue. But I think that some of the
Speaker 1: only time I got upset, Literally, the only time I
Speaker 1: really got upset was hearing the clips on Instagram and
Speaker 1: stuff about the scale for women. Oh you're this number,
Speaker 1: you're that number. Seeing clips of that without a true
Speaker 1: introduction or watching a full video, that's the only time
Speaker 1: I got upset. I felt like, man, for our community,
Speaker 1: this doesn't feel good at all. That was my introduction
Speaker 1: by a white woman. But because I saw some white
Speaker 1: boys saying talking about scales, were you upset with I
Speaker 1: didn't see that, but that would have upset me if
Speaker 1: they were talking about us. But they scaled themselves. If
Speaker 1: they were saying, for our community, have scales if you
Speaker 1: if you're not attractive, we shouldn't know what to see.
Speaker 1: But they scaled themselves. He asked them, how do you feel?
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. If that was my introduction and
Speaker 1: that was my that's the first thing I said. A
Speaker 1: lot of only judged him basis on the clips and
Speaker 1: not actually watched that. If you only said you're a teen,
Speaker 1: you're a three you're a one, you're a six. I
Speaker 1: would be offended. Just just if you sat in this
Speaker 1: room right now and scaled the four of us in here,
Speaker 1: I would be offended. It's uncomfortable. But but do you
Speaker 1: scale men all the time? I do not scale men.
Speaker 1: So if a man walked in who was five ft
Speaker 1: one three pounds, example, I'm just saying finished because women
Speaker 1: how they say that, they say, uh, look at you?
Speaker 1: Didn't look at me? Right? Making make sense? Right? So
Speaker 1: like if I'm not that guy, like and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to highlight you, but I'm looking at myself. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: I'm the ship though, but you're not feeling that it's
Speaker 1: not for you. You would tell me if I tell
Speaker 1: you that, I tell you that I'm trying to highlight you.
Speaker 1: I'm not five pound guy just trying to hide at you.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna say, You're gonna say, look at you.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that he really just trying
Speaker 1: to you know, like yeah, right, Like it's not even
Speaker 1: you know what you say how that would go? This
Speaker 1: is the universal for this bullshit. No, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's basically what it is. That's basically how a lot
Speaker 1: of women think nowadays, it's just like it's like if
Speaker 1: you yeah, you're not gonna necessarily what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: in general that you're thinking in your head, liked even
Speaker 1: like even think like before even you know, what made
Speaker 1: him think that he could come hid at me? Basically?
Speaker 1: Is it okay? That is it? Can can we is
Speaker 1: verbalize it? It's okay to judge people on how they
Speaker 1: look on the exterior, right, yes, okay. We we should
Speaker 1: be able to say, we should be honest. It's hurtful.
Speaker 1: It's hurtful that we all can't receive a merit award
Speaker 1: for showing up and playing. It's hurtful that we all
Speaker 1: can't be tens. It's hurtful that we all can't have
Speaker 1: six facts. You know. But that's all right, you know,
Speaker 1: because we're all unique in our way and we all
Speaker 1: have our quality. May you may not have the physical
Speaker 1: beauty of this person or that person, but you're still
Speaker 1: a unique person. We have to learn to love ourselves.
Speaker 1: I think that's the most important thing. And Kevin Samon's
Speaker 1: will simply point out, this is your this is I'm
Speaker 1: an image consultant. Here's the mirror, this is what you
Speaker 1: look like. Right now. That's not making me love myself.
Speaker 1: And you're not loving yourself. If you think you look
Speaker 1: other than what you really look like, you're delusional. But
Speaker 1: he wouldn't tell you you are four if you didn't
Speaker 1: ask him. But he's not just you, just lunt, but
Speaker 1: you look you give yourself even correct if they gave
Speaker 1: themselves a number two high. Correct what I'm doing. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. You know favors if you're six
Speaker 1: or four and I tell you you're not, because if
Speaker 1: you if I tell you a nine, then you try
Speaker 1: to play in the nine ball field actually playing playing
Speaker 1: in the four ball field. Then once you start, once
Speaker 1: you bring those expectations now and you start, did you
Speaker 1: start trying to find all the great boys and fours
Speaker 1: and five dreaming? Right? You can live a better life,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna be a happy if you were a four,
Speaker 1: still think you should have a nine, seven, eight or nine.
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with a man. If you're
Speaker 1: if you're not a nine or eight or seven, and
Speaker 1: you you're out there trying to get tens, I mean
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to spend a lot of money because
Speaker 1: otherwise you're not gonna get what you want. So what
Speaker 1: he gave you was the game without you even knowing it.
Speaker 1: He was like, listen, you're four, you're for this is
Speaker 1: what you look like. Now, let's now that we have
Speaker 1: that know then go get that fault tune for two
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