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It's Frida Egg twenty at drinkgt dot 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:05.800 com and uh, if you. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.120 Really enjoy it, tell your course or a club to 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:08.720 stock it. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.280 This episode is with Jeff Ogilvie, Jeff and I caught 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.759 up for a little while, and we've started off by 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.319 talking a little bit about the Masters and Tigers wins, 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.040 since we hadn't talked since before Tiger sealed the deal. 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.880 Part two we'll focus on the PGA Championship this week 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.520 as well as Bethpage Black, So look for that to 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.760 be in your feeds probably on Tuesday night. And this 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.280 one's up here and we'll get you ready to go 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:40.120 for your second major championship, the PGA Championship at Bethpage. So, 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:43.920 without further ado, here is Jeff Ogilvie. I miss a green, 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:45.720 for example, I'm already upset. 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.080 When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.120 And when I find my ball in a frid Egg 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.760 Friday egg, the dreaded Frida egg Friday egg Frida egg 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.160 Frida egg bride egg Lie, I'm about ready to run 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:57.240 off the course. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.760 Do you think there's something with short putts? With like 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:28.240 I think there's like an expectation thing. You know, nobody 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.040 ever struggles with an eight foot part, but people struggle 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.280 with a three foot pipe. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.880 Why you give yourself less chance to miss it? Right? 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.480 I mean, if you miss an eight foot you don't 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:43.320 you don't take it too harsh. I think you kind 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:48.640 of start you don't let yourself miss short puts, and 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.040 that's why you do well, that's why the stress. At least, 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:53.760 I should say, you let yourself miss an eight foot 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:58.040 It's like that's start with the ah pow put the 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:00.400 dirty part. I mean, every pro in the world more 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.079 part parts from eight feet than dirty parts. Why that? 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:10.640 But it's yeah, it's yeah, whatever you want the scientific 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.040 term for it, but it's true. And I think the 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:16.200 closure you get to the whole, the less you're willing 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.720 to accept you might miss it, so you get tenser 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:19.760 about it or something. I don't know. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:24.040 Yeah, it's it's like almost like the expectations the wrong thing. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.600 Like if if you walked up and you expect to 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:31.080 make it without thinking about being mad about missing it, 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.720 you'd probably make more of them. But the fact that 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.280 you think about missing it. 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.280 You know, I don't know, you think about missing it 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:39.920 before you hit it, and once you missed you don't 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:41.520 think about missing it. When you're young, you just think 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.560 about missing it. Once you missed a few, Once you 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:47.240 missed a few, then it's always in your head, right, 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:51.000 That's why it's more it's just a pressure, self inflicted pressure. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.800 That's why some courses I think are easier the first 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.680 time you play them because you don't know where all 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:57.680 the bad stuff is. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:03.720 But that's true on some courses. Some courses it's definitely 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:05.800 better than not know to just tell me where to 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:06.920 hit it. I don't want to know where the bad 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:11.880 stuff is. Yeah, I don't know. If put putting, I 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.000 think there's also there's a massive psychological The guys who 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.080 get like that with their putting are the ones who 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:19.599 have always hit the ball great, and they just have 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:24.760 more opportunities to miss. I mean, there's almost no guy 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.680 who's historically not hit it that close to the whole 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.960 or missed a lot of greens. Those guys always put decently, 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:31.960 they never have problems. It's the guys who have close 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.240 their whole career they're the ones who have problems. Well, 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.080 that has to be psychological. 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.880 If they didn't hit it close, though, they wouldn't be 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:40.640 playing on tour. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.799 You could make that argument, but you could also argue 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.400 that they've seen the ball miss more, you know, because 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.760 they've had more eight to twenty footers, whereas the guys 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.359 who don't hit it very well, they chip it up 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.000 to inside five feet every time, So they're more puts 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.120 that they've hit in their life have gone in because 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.320 they've had less parts from outside that I mean, this 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.800 is an accumulation of a career. But I mean Monty 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.680 Adam Scott, like Lucas Glover, these guys who are like 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.720 just stripe shows close their whole life eventually by the 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:17.320 end struggle with they're putting VJ. You know, Nicholas and 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:18.680 Tiger are like the exceptions. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.560 I wonder you just said something that made me think 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:26.520 of Sergio because Sergio is so he's another guy that's 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:27.920 you know, struggled with the putter. 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.760 But but then I think, I think exactly the same. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:35.120 Is his pitching the most like his short game, the 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:38.880 most underappreciated great skill of any player, because everybody talks 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:39.960 about how he hits it. 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.240 Yeah, he's very artistic around the greens too, like he's 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.200 I mean, he's not seavy, he doesn't play the outrageous shots, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:51.440 but he's he always plays the right shot. He's Yeah, 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.120 he's brilliant around the greens, really good, and he looks engaged, 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:59.200 you know, like he loves loves sitting. Great pitch shots, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.800 hip shots. Yeah, he's really good around the greens, but 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:04.599 he hits it, so he hits it so good that 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:09.440 everybody just notices his ball striking. But he's incredible for 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.800 everywhere except inside about ten feet probably, you know. And 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:15.960 when he works out out he wins. When he pats 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:17.160 well inside ten feet he wins. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.240 It seems like, yeah, yeah, that's exactly. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.840 I mean, yeah, you look at like Westwood would be 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.880 another guy inside ten feet just I mean, he'd have 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:28.480 he'd have a couple of majors. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:31.919 But again, he's had a career of being ten to 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.160 twelve fifth, ten to twenty feet for Bertie on almost 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.840 every hole. I mean, these guys who stripe it have 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.839 just got more opportunity to miss. I mean, part of 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.000 me is with Speeth with his putting, is that he 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:45.480 just hits too many puts. And at some point Jackie 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.880 Burke used to say his fix for putting was just 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:49.479 go hit a one hundred three footers in a row, 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:50.880 you know, And if you can hold one hundred three 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:55.200 footers in a row, then you can put because you're 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:59.440 just seeing the ball go in all the time. And 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.760 when you pack just eight, ten, twelve, fifteen foot of 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.280 is that booty race party as good as you can part, 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.160 you're still seeing the ball miss a lot and that 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.480 just builds up in your head over a long period time. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.280 Maybe I don't know. That's my theory at least, Like 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.920 the best putters I've ever known haven't practiced they're putting 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.280 that much. I mean they're consistent, but they're five ten 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.120 minutes and then they go on. You know, they don't 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.080 stand there for three hours every Thursday and Friday and 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.840 Wednesday afternoons and just grinding in grooves into the green. 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.200 The great putters don't do that. They come they well 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.520 mean sned okay if you had some patches of practicing 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:34.040 a little bit. But they're consistently practicing it. But they're 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.520 not like that guy who digs holes in the putt 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:40.080 and green grooves, because I think they just they get 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:41.560 the feel, they see the ball go in the hole, 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.000 and then they're happy, you know, then they go out 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:46.320 in the course. There's something to that. I don't know 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:46.760 what it is. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.000 I agree, I think like the short putts, there's something 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.000 to that, like practicing long putts and short putts, but 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:54.920 nothing in between. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:57.560 Yeah, because there's. 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.960 Definitely merit to that. I mean, yeah, Tiger, Tiger always 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.680 when he got on the green, it would hit just 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.680 one hundred foot is the longest puts he could hit 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.600 for like the first five minutes he walked on the green, 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:11.320 and then at the end he would hit two two 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.920 three footers. That was it. He didn't hit many in between. 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.240 And you never saw Tiger practice his putting onto it. 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.920 You just saw him warm it up. He wasn't chalk 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:25.120 lining or getting the stringline or doing circles or anything that. 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:25.360 Really. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.520 He was generally just being loose, putting around the groom 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:34.640 with one hand sometimes like it was had a sense 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:35.800 not so serious. 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.640 Does that make sense, Yeah, no, it does. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.200 Lighter about it. He was on the green and he 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.800 was kind of bantering with guys and banging puts all 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.040 the way across the green. But it wasn't so his 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.640 putting preparation wasn't so stressful and serious like you see 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.600 some guys. I mean, I don't know. I mean, this 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:55.480 is just years of watching people, watching what works and 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:56.160 what doesn't work. 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.880 And this is what I make scuff great because there's 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.520 no no true answer. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:01.480 Nobody's guarded. 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.760 That's why putting so nobody's got it. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.000 It's the most frustrating, putting, the most frustrating aspect of golf. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.280 I find bugs me so much. 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.480 But it's the most, it's the most. It's the most 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.600 black and white. Right, it's in or it's out. It's 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.800 success or its failure. Whereas with a golf and like 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.439 a full shot, it feels like there's a bit more 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.920 area of gray. That was okay, that was gray. That 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.960 was average, But I can get away with it, and 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.200 you've got more shot. With a bad drive, you've got 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.640 three more shots to make paw. You miss your paw part, 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.199 it's over. You've made bogey. Like there's no coming back 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:31.880 from that. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.640 That's so true because like if you hit an average drive, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.720 it's whatever. But like when you have an eight foot 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.920 slider from left to right, and as soon as you 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:45.600 hit it, you know it's just gonna miss, like a 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.480 cup rate, you're just like god, that was just terrible. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.000 You know, you just feel awful. 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.600 And success is only success if the ball goes in. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.240 Whereas a drive, you've got thirty yards a fair way 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:58.920 and even in the rough you can kind of you 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:00.760 can maybe make power or it up to the green. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.160 But like a putt, it's in or it's out, like 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.200 it's success or its failure. And I think that's the 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.800 only part in golf it's like that, So I think 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:12.440 that's why it leaves all the scars that it does. Hey, 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:13.440 I can. 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.439 What'd you think of what do you think of takers? 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:22.319 When holy wow? Yeah, outrageous. I mean it kind of 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.520 looked it on Saturday a little bit, didn't it. I felt. 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:26.920 I mean, everybody's written it, and I mean there's been 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:32.640 as much written about this as anything, but the he 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.319 just carried that air of kind of joy or happiness 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.760 and lightness on the course that he hadn't had since 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.040 he was a kid. It didn't appear to me, and 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:42.800 he just looked like he was in the right mood. 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.720 And as soon as that back nine came along, it 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.800 was like two thousand and two again, wasn't it. It 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.640 was incredible. He just looked he just looked so comfortable 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.800 down the stretch when nobody else looked completely comfortable, you know. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.160 I mean, I think they Brooks looked great, and a 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.040 few of the others looked great, but he just looked like, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.760 heyday Tiger all of a sudden, like, oh now, I 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.679 remember what I'm doing everyone, get out of the way. 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:09.240 I'm gonna win, you know. And that shot on six 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.319 that shot on sixteen, it was just like was it 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.520 ever going to go anywhere else? You know? It was 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.319 just incredible. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:22.400 Shot on fifteen was awesome too, and then and then yeah, yeah, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.800 that fifteen shot on fifteen was like perfect. It seemed 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.960 like he was never he's never taking on like the 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.040 really risky line, but he was taking the right line 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:32.600 every time. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.360 It's funny. I mean, he had this reputation in his 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.040 heyday of being ultra aggressive, but he actually wasn't. When 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.640 he got in Majors in the last nine holes especially, 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:47.400 he was ultra conservative. Really never really gave himself a 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.760 chance to relative to a guy like Phil for example, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.400 who clearly takes the most cavalier approach that he can 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.160 because that's how he likes to play. Tiger was always 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.320 like backfooting two irons and hitting him low and hitting 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.560 it to the fat side of the green and kind 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:06.079 of that Nicholas make people beat me thing. Regular tournaments, 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.480 he was pretty aggressive, but Majors he was always. He 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:14.000 was incredibly smart golfer probably underestimated, under talked about how 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:16.640 smart he was, and how a little danger he would 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:21.640 put his ball in. Yeah, I mean it was great 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:23.120 to watch. I mean, what a comeback from what a 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:27.120 couple of years ago he was not playing golf again 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.880 and get pulled up on the side of the road 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.280 by the police in all sorts of I mean, it 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.280 was like, wow, coming back from that just to come 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:37.559 on tours impressive, but to realistically be what one of 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.400 the top two or three golfers in the world right now, 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.360 that's pretty outrageous. Yeah. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.840 I mean you look at act and now he's finished 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.640 top six and with a win in the last three majors, Like, 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.520 who would have thought that two years ago? 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.800 It's absolutely nuts? 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.720 And no, it's nuts, Yeah, it's nuts. 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.360 What was it like when Taker was in the hunt 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.560 in a major? When you're playing Do you think that 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.280 it had an effect people have talked about Do you 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.720 think there was any Tiger effect and the Master, as 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.400 you said, everybody was a little uncomfortable. Do you think 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:16.800 that had anything to do with him? 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.679 I think a little bit. I mean, it's not what 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.000 he does. It was the reputation hit for us. Wow. 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.480 If you go back, he never lost a tournament when 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.920 he played in the last group basically, ever, like his 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.680 record of leading on Sunday and closing out the deal 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.480 was what sixty and one or something like. It was 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.960 just it was so it just gave you this. It 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.360 was just this feeling of inevitability. It didn't matter what 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.079 you did, he was going to win. It just felt 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:46.240 that way because he always did. And even though this 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.040 was false, it made you feel like you had to 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.280 play perfect. Even though he didn't play perfect to beat you. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:56.640 He did plenty of bad shots, but or not perfect shots, 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.400 I should say, but you felt like you had to 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:03.200 play perfect because no one's ever beaten this guy. So wow, 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:04.600 I'm going to have to play good to beat him. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.360 And whenever you try to play perfect, you don't play 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.480 very well, right, or it's very difficult to play well 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.640 when you try to play that well. And I think 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.600 that was the intimidation, knowing he was going to be 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.559 hard to beat, knowing you had to play really, really well, 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:18.520 and whenever you try to play really well, you just 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:24.640 generally don't. It's I never felt the physical intimidation or 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.520 the oh, this is Tiger. It's like he's just an 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.880 intimidating guy like you probably would standing up next to 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.040 Lebron James or on the blocks with Michael Phelps or something. 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:33.560 I think that'd be a little different, Like that's a 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.480 physical intimidation with guys like that. Tiger was, and he's 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.960 physically intimidating because he just looked so good and he 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:45.400 carried himself so well and carries But it was that 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.120 you know, he was going to be there at the end, 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:50.960 and you had to play one of the best rounds 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.720 you've ever played, and generally, when you try to do that, 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:56.760 you don't, So to me, that was the intimidation. And 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:00.480 it's just that feeling of inevitability. It's just he's gonna win, 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.160 like in the crowd knew it, and that everybody knew it. 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.680 It was incredible. 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:09.040 Watching Moulinari because you know, Molinari played with him at 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:13.720 the Open, and Tiger had that early flurry there and 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:18.000 then Tiger kind of self sabotaged with the bogies he 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:22.000 made and so it was so untiger like. But then 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:25.120 and Molinari just was kind of going about his business 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.480 and nobody was paying attention to him. And then when 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.600 Tiger faltered, he he you know, played really well down 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.240 the stretch. But but this it seemed like the Masters. 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.720 It was so much different because he was he was leading, 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.160 he was in the last group and all day, you know, 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.360 he made some unbelievable up and downs just to you know, 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.320 to hang on to the lead on the back. But 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:49.720 he definitely looked different from the way he played within 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.520 the Open. But you know, it could have been just 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.280 you know, bad round or whatever, but it just seemed 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.600 like there was a little bit different feeling and maybe 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:00.360 that was just more pressure with the Masters and eating. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.280 I think there's a history thing that the Master's term. 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.480 He's won there, what's he won there? Five times? 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:08.680 Now? 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.200 Was that fine? He was so wed one? Yeah, so 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.920 he's won four times before. He's clearly barely played the 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.880 Masters where he didn't have a chance with nine holes 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.440 to play. I mean, so for twenty twenty times in 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.560 his career, he's probably come down the stretch on the 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.840 last nine holes with some chance to win the Masters. Malinurry, 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:30.360 that was his first then, if or basically I'm not 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.480 sure if he'd been fringes of contention before, but let's 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.080 say it was his first or second at the most. 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:40.480 That's Augusta. You're fighting history always. It's why Freddie always 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.320 plays well, and Phil usually is around, and the usual 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.800 suspects are always around because it's there's just there's ghosts 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.760 at that place, and Tiger's ghosts to the friendliest ones, right, 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.480 I mean, as he can win there, the crowd, the crowd, 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.760 all they want to do is they just they want 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.640 him to win. I mean, it's just I don't know, 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:06.919 it's this again, there's that's feeling of inevitability that it 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.720 was just gonna happen. I don't know, it's just history 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:14.240 there is amazing, Like it's he's just been in those 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.080 holes in that position more often than anyone else, and 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.639 he's naturally better at that than most people in history 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.320 as well. So I mean it's a double thing. It's 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.359 a double difficult to beat there. And I think at 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:28.879 a new course where he hadn't won before, or where no 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.240 one had ever played, a completely fresh place, it might 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.840 be a different story, a bit more of a level 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.040 playing field. But that's the That's the great thing about 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:41.240 the Masters is once you win, you're kind of you're 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.640 it's not a level playing field anymore, you know. There's 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.760 just that's such an advantage to one it before, especially 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:46.720 four times. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.160 Yeah, and for the guys that have been in it 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.119 and failed like that's kind of what Ernie was talking 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.439 about when he when he talked about it like he 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.000 was he got in there so many times and every 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.320 time it went the wrong way, You've start to like 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:01.240 you're almost cursed. 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:07.280 Yeah, And look, it's such a cool tournament to win 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.119 because of the lifetime exemption and the Champions dinner and 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:13.240 all that little that the coolest little club in golf 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.439 professional golf is that Champions, right. I mean, there's so 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:20.800 few of them that once you're in it, you haven't 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:22.760 got anything to lose down the last nine holes. Really, 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:24.800 it's just I can just add to my legacy here. 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.040 You're still part of the club. Whereas people who are 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.199 trying to get in the club. That's there's more pressure 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:33.479 involved there, more more more things that construct you, bro, 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.680 I mean, more things that can distract you and start 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.000 thinking about Champions dinners and what's the locker room look 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.760 like up there? And I don't know, I mean what 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.040 goes through everybody else's head, But it's it's certainly easier 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.400 to win a tournament that you've won before, and that 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.280 tournament I would have said that would be amplified. 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.520 That's that's why I struggle with when I play tournament golf, 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:56.040 is when I'm playing well and I start thinking I 0:18:56.119 --> 0:19:00.680 had like when whether it's like a USGA qualifier and 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.680 I start to think about playing in the tournament, or 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.160 you know, whether it's a you know, a tournament where 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.440 you qualify for match play, you start thinking about match 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.399 play and you're not done with your struck play. Is 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.280 that same kind of stuff that yeah, I mean that 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:17.399 you and a lot of other tour pros struggle with. 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.240 I think that's natural. I mean I think whenever I 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.120 was playing really, really well in the tournament so I won, 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.000 I don't think I thought about winning it until after 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.200 it was over, or at least till right at the end, 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.520 and I'd never it wasn't about I was thinking about 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.360 winning it, but I wasn't thinking about what would come 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:35.240 with the win. I think when you start thinking about 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:39.520 what comes with the win or anything other than just 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:41.520 hitting good shots and finishing one in front of the 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:46.400 guy next year, then you can go wrong. That's when 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.840 I went wrong. The ones that didn't work out were like, yeah, 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:51.480 you start thinking about oh well, well, yeah, if it 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:55.480 was qualifying for a matchplay thing, or it was well, 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:57.359 i might win a million dollars today, and I'm going 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:58.800 to have a two year exemption, and I'm going to 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:00.640 get to go to Kappallura and the two championship. Maybe 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.080 I'll get in that. It's like, you can't hit good 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:04.720 shots when you think about all that stuff, you know, 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:06.800