1 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: The First Baptist Church of Venice was the backdrop of 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter protests a few weeks ago. The 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: church was shuddered and looked to be on the path 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: of this demolishment. Speakers used this moment to discuss the 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: injustices and the trauma that ensued. The First Baptist Church 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: in Venice was a way station for people in need 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: forty five years after slavery had ended, and the people 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: made this a watchtower and a refuge. Black Native Indigenous 9 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: people were in Venice since nineteen ten. Ask any of 10 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: the agentifiers or business improvement district employees and they will 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: not be able to tell you. They cannot tell you. 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: They can tell you how to enliven the area by 13 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: getting the unhoused community out of the area. And as 14 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: we know, the high percentage of people that are in 15 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: housed in Los Angeles, California are Black and Latin X. 16 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: The area for Black and Native was to survive, endure, 17 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: and thrive and enjoy their existence when the world was 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: not for their existence at all. Now we're in twenty 19 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: twenty with the same struggle. Anti inhouse centiment is part 20 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: of the movement. Now. The time is now to move 21 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: and agitate, as Frederick Douglas said, time to get into 22 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: good trouble at the recently departed John Lewis said he 23 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: also said something from nineteen sixty three March on Washington 24 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: that I will pair phrase due to Trump kidnapping citizens 25 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: and putting them in centers, and the Project Root Key 26 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: and recreation centers being ended, and the eagerness of Nimby 27 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: and law enforced to criminalize the unhoused. Now, John Lewis 28 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: said this, I want to know what side is the 29 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: government on the Revolution is at hand and we must 30 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: free ourselves of the chains of political and economic slavery. 31 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: All right, all right, sure, all right. You can hear 32 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: me clap once, can hear me clap twice? Okay, if 33 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: you can hear me, show me your booget. All right, 34 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for people that humor me. All right. So my 35 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: name is Paulina. I'm really honored to be here in Venice. 36 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for welcoming me the Venice community. I 37 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: love you guys. It is really cool to learn about 38 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: what's going on over here. A lot of similarities as 39 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: THEO knows what's happening in Shanna Town. That's where I 40 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: was born. So I'm here to represent Homeless Healthcare. It's 41 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: the agency I work for, and we've been trying to 42 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: house people for the last thirty three years. We provide 43 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: services through UH you know housing UH through if they 44 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: want to go to treatment. And the main our main 45 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: philosophy is that we are harm reduction, you know, so 46 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: harm reduction meeting people where they are at. So service providers, 47 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: our motivational interviewing tells us when you need to meet 48 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: people where they are at. And this is what Homeless 49 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: Healthcare does. You know. We have a neutile exchange downtown. 50 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: We've been running services through COVID. We've had the E 51 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: sixteen hitting the streets. We've had our doctor and nurse 52 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: promtitioner out there testing people and giving the unhoused people 53 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: UH some education and testing it and narcon kids and 54 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: pipes clean pipes because we're in the middle of a pandemic. 55 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: We can't be sharing pipes right now. But so what 56 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: I do with Homes's Healthcare is they kind of have 57 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: me in a unique area. I'm colloquated at Twin Towers. 58 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm by myself, I'm away from my co workers, and 59 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: I had to put up with the cops for my people. Okay, 60 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: So all the stories, all the stories of these hashtags. 61 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: I see them on a daily, on a daily every day, 62 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, and I get my repeats. So you know, 63 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: the director wanted me to be here, and we really 64 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: wanted to say, defund them, Please defund the Jackie must go. 65 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: She's got to go. She needs to do a lot 66 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: of facing jimpro. The area was only three miles wide, 67 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: and half that was a place, and the boundaries that 68 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: they could only cross in certain directions, and that isn't 69 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: havic Kenney Boulevard, It's Washington Boulevard, Little Washington West and East. 70 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: It was ninety nine point ninety nine percent black owned. 71 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: And now you can voll over there and buy a 72 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: seventeen dollars latte or a three thousand dollar rocking share. 73 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: That's three months of my rent. So that's why we 74 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: march today. March today, because brother Africa, it's no longer 75 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: with us. A relative who's light matter. Oh, I'm gonna 76 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: turn the mic over to the person named Kathy Katie 77 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: sweet sir, whom I apologize that we didn't get to 78 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: have you speared everyone. I'm sure, it's not sweet Savors 79 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: speaker promises to human rights, but I'm here talking about 80 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: the service in that spite. I want to say a 81 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: little bit about criminalization today. All of you Venice community 82 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: members know that over the past many years, criminalization of 83 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: the homeless has been used to move people along. These 84 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: are our community members, these are our neighbors, and people 85 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: are using the police as a tool to move people 86 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: out of Venice. Every time there's a police encounter with 87 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: a homeless person that causes an opportunity where violence can occur. 88 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: These these minor low level offenses that are being enforced 89 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: in Venice. These are low levels smoking or riding a fight, 90 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: things that should never be criminalized. These criminalization of our 91 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: of our homeless people in Venice is used simply to 92 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: create an opportunity for warrants to issue so that they 93 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: can be as they can be harassed. In twenty twenty, 94 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: a report came out saying that a third of the 95 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: police use of force in Los Angeles was against homeless people, 96 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: despite a tiny fraction of the people of the total 97 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: police encounters being with homeless people. And this is because 98 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: people are using these opportunities to move people out of 99 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: their neighborhoods. We need to people who are here who 100 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: live in venice off to the neighbors, tell them that 101 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: there's no need to call the police because someone's having 102 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: a mental health crisis. The neighbors to think that they're 103 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: unhoused neighbors is also their neighbors. They're part of our 104 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: community too. Yeah, we have to assure that people in 105 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: our neighborhoods are not criminalized, are are not constantly harassed, 106 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: and are not moved. Unhoused News West Valley panel on Monday, 107 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: July twentieth at three pm. I was a panelist on there, 108 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: and I noticed the imbalance of power that was accorded 109 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: to me. I was invited in which I graciously accepted, 110 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: but I also could not help but notice the lion's 111 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: share of the time was people that had not experienced houselessness. 112 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: They were trouting out dog whistles that were demonizing unhoused people, 113 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: and to that end, I felt I had to scrap 114 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: my speech and to speak from the realities of the situation, 115 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: in particular unhoused vigilanteism, which Mayor Eric Carcetti skips over 116 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: and return the onus back onto unhoused people and other news, 117 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: Governor Newsom announced six hundred million dollars to help house 118 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: the unhoused, up for change for the negative and an 119 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: anti trans rule to discriminate against trans women. This is 120 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: due to Ben Carson, who is a part of this movement. 121 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: This will reverse obama error rule on the issue. It 122 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: also attacks gender identity community. A trans woman will be 123 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: forced to go to a min's shelter. Ex police officer 124 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: John Rabaga was sentenced to four years in prison for 125 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: forcing an other houseman to lick a public urino. Robaga 126 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: threatened to beat the man and stuff his face in 127 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: the toilet if he didn't lick the uneral. Reginald Ramonez, 128 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: the other officer, will be sentenced next week. An other 129 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: news on House veteran Caleb Harris delivers his own child 130 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: in the car the family sleeps in. Upon hearing the news, 131 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: Council President Neuri Martinez of Los Angeles took to Twitter 132 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: saying this should not happen to any family, but her 133 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: record shows that she has gone out of her way 134 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: to demonize and used a dogwasue about her family while 135 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: she criminalizes other on house families in the communities that 136 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: she resides as well as oversea. In Ocola, Florida, the 137 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: unhoused is racking up thousands of dollars in fines for 138 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: being poor and unhoused. Some are going to jail, and 139 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: this is unhouselas. These are all things you have in 140 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: common with my cousin, Brendon Glinn, who was murdered by 141 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: an LPD officer. Now I could talk about his case. 142 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: I could talk about how the chief of police said 143 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: in three different press conferences that this was a homicide, 144 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: and how Jackie Lacy stood in the way of justice, 145 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: and that she is the reason that so many families, 146 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: at least six hundred and eight other families have never 147 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: gotten justice for the pillings and the brutality that they 148 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: have experienced. Yeah, Jackie Lacy, seriously, God, But what I 149 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: really want to talk about is how he lived. And 150 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: I want you to understand how Brendan lived and who 151 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: he was. Because when we say say their names, we 152 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: don't mean that you watch the video of them dying, 153 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: that you watch life leave their eyes, you watch them 154 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: screaming out to their mother in these vulnerable moments. We 155 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: mean that you understand that they were alive and living 156 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: like you. They had dreams like you. They had kids 157 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: like you, they had parents like you, they went to 158 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: school like you. These are human beings like you. And 159 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: we use the terms when Brendan was killed, they used 160 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: terms like black homeless man, black homeless man, never using 161 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: his name, And that was all to dehumanize him, to 162 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: make it seem like because he was black and because 163 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: he was experiencing homelessness in that time, his life was 164 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: forgotten and not as important as someone else's. So that 165 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: is why we say say their name, because people will 166 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: not be diminished to BuzzFeed articles and clickbait and taglines. 167 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: These are human beings, right right, So say his name, 168 00:13:33,040 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: say his name. Thank you guys so much. Why doesn't 169 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: everyone stop and do something mommy? And as we would 170 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: drive and hike and walk through the streets of Venice, 171 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: one of the now most affluent areas in one of 172 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: the most affluent cities, in one of the wealthiest states, 173 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: in the richest country in the world, it was difficult 174 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: as his parent to try and answer his questions, to 175 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: make peace with his suffering, to explain injustice, in humanity 176 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: and cruelty to a child. And now today his little 177 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: brother comes with equally difficult questions to answer, the hardest 178 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: of which is, Daddy, when did they start not lanking 179 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: black people? And as we come together today on this 180 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: ground to gather in memory of Brandon, in solidarity with 181 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: unhoused lives and black lives, and in record ignition of 182 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: the American story so many of us have been hiding 183 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: from or hidden by the intersectionality of Brandon's story has 184 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: become all of our stories. You see, Brandon's fate was sealed, 185 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: like many of ours, by the twin evils of American society. 186 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: The two pillars that we all walked through when we 187 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: are born inside this country, the two components that from 188 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: inception needed each other, racism and capitalism. You cannot separate 189 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: the two. One is an economic system that requires, that necessitates, 190 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: the exploitation of a set of people, and the other 191 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: race is the means by which that set of people 192 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: was created, then divided, and then subjugated. Brandon could have 193 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: been in my family. It struck me how much we 194 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: looked alike. He could have been my brother, and he, 195 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: like me, is caught entrapped in the inescapable web of 196 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: a country that devalued his existence on every level. To 197 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: be poor and black in America is by design. Is 198 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: It is not an accident. It is by design. And 199 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: I realize that many of us, for many years, too 200 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: many years, have comfortably turned our heads from this ugly truth. 201 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: But it is our truth, and we come together now 202 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty in the spirit of truth. We do 203 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: come together in the spirit of truth. Right, Okay, So 204 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: Brandon's truth and Margaret Mitchell's truth and Richard Castillo's truth 205 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: and are unhoused have become the forgotten of the downtrodden, 206 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: and there is no more time to run from the 207 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: systematic economic deprivation that America's Black people have been forced 208 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: to endure, and the legacy of poverty that we are 209 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: now viciously trapped in, relegated to housing projects, environmentally unsafe neighborhoods, 210 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: reduced to being the unseen and un hows, and locked 211 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: out of the wealth acquisition the rest of the country 212 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: has access to. For me, Brandon's case highlights two things, 213 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: police brutality excessive force and the other's police protection and 214 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: the government's repeated unwillingness to prosecute right until we are 215 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: ready to smash this system where district attorneys refuse to 216 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: bring police in front of a jury protected by probable 217 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: cause and qualified immunity, and my life was in danger 218 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: and he was going for my gun and he had 219 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: superhuman strength. Then we will watch this story again and 220 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: again and again. We have a system that must be 221 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: changed when the color of my skin makes me suspicious 222 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: and justifies a nine to one one call which ends 223 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 1: up with me being dead when I have committed no crime. 224 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: In Brandon's case, if you don't know his murderer's own 225 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: police chief recommended prosecution. The cop who's gun he was 226 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: allegedly grabbing says he didn't feel anything, and an independent 227 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: civilian review board recommended prosecution. And who comes in your 228 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: finest da Jackie Lacy, to say yeah, And here she comes, 229 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: like she has so many times before, to say sorry, 230 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: we don't have a case. We have a system's problem, people, 231 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: and it is time for a new one. This is 232 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: now a revolution and a reckoning of the American story, 233 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: the garbage story that for too long has had a 234 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: vested interest in our separation, a story that from its 235 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: very inception was rife with contradictions with the words freedom 236 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: and justice for all, while black people had no semblance 237 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: of freedom at the time as we moved through history 238 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: through a series of bondage, first chains and whips, then 239 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: into fear, terror and nooses, on through forced segregation, and 240 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: into our modern day reality when someone can call the 241 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: cops on me for anything to see as a threat, 242 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: most notably the color of my skin, when our indigenous 243 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: ancestors were all murdered or herded like cattle and marched 244 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: together straight into homelessness. But the history that we are 245 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: still force fed in kindergarten leads us to believe that 246 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: the America's original genocide was a fanciful tale of a 247 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: great feast and a child's game of cowboys and Indians 248 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: is built right when the western lands we stand on, 249 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: we're annexed by military might and taken from Mexico, a 250 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: country that was still scarred from its own takeover by 251 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: a different set of European colonizers, a country whose indigenous 252 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: Aztec population had already been buried under disease and war 253 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: and famine and the oppression of European colonial imperialism. America, 254 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: whose stench of its origins excluded women from political process 255 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: by design, excluded Asians from entering the country, our country 256 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: under which the regime of Nazi Germany laid their blueprints 257 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: after carefully studying United States Jim Crow laws still sticks. 258 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: When George Floyd was murdered, a piece of all of 259 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: us died for real, and a protest began and we stood, 260 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: and the protest turned into an uprising, and the uprising 261 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: turned into a movement. And now here we are, and 262 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: the movement has become a revolution. And I said a 263 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: few weeks ago that this is the resistance that is 264 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: rising from George Floyd's last breaths. But now as I 265 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: sit with the protests that have become the largest protest 266 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: movement in American history, let that sink in. People. We 267 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: are now a part of the law. Were just social 268 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: movement for equality in American history. Every state of the 269 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: Union is rising up. And I realize that not only 270 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: do we have each other as accomplices in the fight, 271 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: but we have the collective force of our millions of 272 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: ancestors guiding us. Quote to quote one of my heroes, 273 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: James Baldwin, and I'm quoting, America. All of your buried 274 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: corpses are beginning to speak, and the corpses are asking 275 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: that we fight more than police. Brutality. Our answers are 276 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: asking that we fight more than four hundred years of 277 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: colonial occupation. We are now here fighting for a way 278 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: of life. We are fighting against the belief system that 279 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: has pitted us against each other, that teaches little boys 280 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: and little girls that their only choices are on the 281 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: margins and in the edges. We are gathering to break 282 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: down the polarities that America has chosen for us that 283 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: have so profoundly divided us. Against the words that only 284 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: serve to deny our togetherness and simultaneously strip us of 285 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: our uniqueness. We are fighting for acceptance, all of us, 286 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: fighting for recognition of the spaces that exist in between, 287 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 1: where we can safely love each other in the middle. 288 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: We are fighting for a new way of life, and 289 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: everybody out there, silence is no longer an option. People 290 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: of color and brandon and the poor have been forced 291 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: to live on the edges and choked and starved from 292 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: the center, and we cannot escape it. And privately, in 293 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: the darkest hour of night. White people know this truth too, 294 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: and that's why you are here. You too know that 295 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: the level of hate and subjugation that has been around 296 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: the necks of your Bypoch brothers and sisters is no 297 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: longer sustainable. And the senseless and you humane deaths that 298 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: we now see daily have jilted you, have shocked you, 299 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: and you are now waking up and you too will 300 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: not have it any longer. And you are tapping in 301 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: to our collective pain and our collective suffering, and we 302 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: will heal it with love. Yes, this is Neil Henderson 303 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: from Median Howes. I'm here at the protest today for 304 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: celebrating on House Black Lives Matter as among other issues 305 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: in the studios today, I'm here interviewing a gentleman that 306 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: had some powerful words to say in the midst of 307 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: our ending of the protests. So let us get his 308 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: name and figure out what's going on. Yeah, Hi, my 309 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: name is Sultan, It's s u l t a in. 310 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: Last name is Sharif share Our I e F is 311 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: in front. You mentioned that people didn't get to know 312 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: the unhouse community here. What was your what brought that 313 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: insight off? Well, so I've been working on in the 314 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: block for the last since the beginning, since March twenty six. 315 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: I live on Dudley in Venice or then as soon 316 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: as I used to work in Michigan and like tourism 317 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: through the Mission Film Office and so you know, we 318 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: do economic multipliers and economic impacts stuff like that. So 319 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: as soon as they announced they're closing the boardwalk, I'm like, 320 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: that's interesting. That's that's there's ten ten million visitors to 321 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: the Venice Peech borderwalk every year. What's going to happen. 322 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: Then then they said they're closing all of the restaurants. 323 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, but that food feeds, Like there's eight 324 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: hundred thousand visitors a month eating at various restaurants. What's 325 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: going to happen then? And there's a drug version of 326 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: that network. And right then they close the library and 327 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: all of the indoors inside of Starbucks, which has the 328 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: infrastructure people charging their phones, right and so like, what's 329 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: going to happen then? So immediately is I as soon 330 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: as I hear that, my brain because of my old job, 331 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: goes to like all of these services that are going 332 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: to need somebody to replace them and all of these resources. 333 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: So I'm waiting around for the symbois to come rolling 334 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: in or something, you know, to help to help nothing. 335 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: First weekend and then I started seeing people who I 336 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: know I've been living there ten years, fighting and different things. 337 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: He took this tent, then they released eleven hundred people 338 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: from La County and then they all hit the block. 339 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: So I came out, saw this young man singing who 340 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: had just gotten released in flip flops, and they didn't 341 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: even tell him what COVID was. And it's like, why 342 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: are people wearing masks? Like what the heck is going on? 343 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: And then he hit the block in like downtown, then 344 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: came to Hollywood, then came landed in Venice. So I 345 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: ended up starting this whole project with him, trying to 346 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: document a lot of the stuff. But anyway, so since 347 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: then March twenty six, all of April, I end up 348 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: getting a fight with my friends, so I ended up 349 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: homeless for a month April, although I was privileged enough 350 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: to have family who were able to get me a 351 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: hotel or whatever. So all of April, found a spot 352 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: in May, and then now all of June and then 353 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: and so as I'm working with everybody and trying to 354 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: help people work on various sort of plans. We tried 355 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: to build the unit that ended up getting run over 356 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: by a pickup truck and a threatening block type way 357 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: another brother, trying to work with him. We started a 358 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: little mobile moss helping people get access to instruments, use 359 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: the phone, use the library. You know the libraries are closed, 360 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: getting people power and so anyway, so then all then Eric, 361 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, the thing happens with George Floyd and so 362 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: everything blows up, and so now everyone forgets about COVID 363 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: and they all start like coming outdoors, right, but they've 364 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: been struggling on the block. People drop off food, They 365 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: do drop off food, but a lot of the people 366 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: need like a way to use the phone regularly, a 367 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: way to you know, just very basic things outside of 368 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: just dropping off your whole foods back because you probat, 369 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: which is lovely and beautiful and absolutely necess it. So anyway, 370 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: so then that's been a big thing, a lot trying 371 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: to document, trying to I've tried eight or nine different 372 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: ways and to put out some sustainable resources. The whole 373 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: time I'm thinking like I'm just gonna wait for the 374 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: giant non confident Yea and Urban Alchemy does some cool stuff. 375 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: They have showers that bounce on a different day every week. 376 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: Some brothers with some brothers, they have two bathrooms and 377 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: in washing station that are always on third and rows. 378 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: They're out there for like twelve hours a day, actually 379 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 1: more than that, I think seven am to I don't know, 380 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: maybe it's seven eight to seven people. Anyway, they're fully manned, 381 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: they're cleaned regularly, so there's a bunch of people doing 382 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: beautiful stuff. But in short like there's three places to 383 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: charge your phone and like a three mile radius, you 384 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: gotta wait in line like an hour. If you don't 385 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: get in the shower line soon enough, you could end 386 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: up going two to three weeks because it goes on 387 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: a different block and you can't just roll up on 388 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: somebody else's block and get in front of the shower, 389 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: so you have to weigh your turn when it's on 390 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: your block. So if that one day you don't get 391 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: especially the elderly and the person I was with has 392 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: a hernia, but he's not making it to the front 393 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 1: of the line, and there's all these people who need 394 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: to shower. So then he misses that week, then he 395 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: misses the next week, you know, and then he misses 396 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: the every week. So then I'm trying to work with 397 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: him on buildings and stuff, and he's like, I can't 398 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: take a shower, and you close them on the beaches 399 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: or at least strinp off the hot water there, so 400 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: unless he's down the run and jump in the ocean 401 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: or like take a color so anyway, so it's that 402 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: type of stuff that you're seeing and you're experiencing in 403 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: this true story of these individuals, and each one is 404 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: unique to their challenges, be it like you know, family issues, 405 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: mental health issues, drug issues, whatever, personality issues, just sometimes 406 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: whatever it might be. And so then and navigating and 407 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: trying to work within that, you know, boom, George Floyd happens, 408 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: and people take to the streets and they're demanding justice, 409 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: and they're demanding all of these things, but they're walking 410 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 1: past all of the people who are going through all 411 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: of the things that they are demanding, and it's sort 412 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: of like a call to action is happening, and all 413 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: of this is one hundred percent necessary, but it's sort 414 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: of like for it from the vantage point of the 415 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: person on the street. For the last I don't know 416 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: whether we've been in four weeks, they're looking like, Okay, 417 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: oh beautiful, thank you for showing up. Okay, Black Lives Matter, 418 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: thank you for showing up. Week two, Black Lives Matter, 419 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: Thank you showing up Week three Black Lives maatter, thank 420 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: you so much showing up. You still haven't taken a shower. 421 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, you're still very you know, eating cold food, 422 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: it's left over. Your phone got stolen because these new 423 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: cats hit the block. You know that didn't kind of 424 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: knowing who things are, and you don't really know who 425 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: they are and think they're over there by the by 426 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: the golf course, or he might be over there down 427 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: by this first, but he might kick it with that guy. 428 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: But I don't want to him and he kick it 429 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: with that guy because then that might make some energy 430 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: that I'm not trying to get into. So anyway, it's 431 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: all you know, these politics, and so this is the 432 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: reality of their lives. So then this one was homeless focus, right, 433 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: but it's like and we're talking about infrastructure and government 434 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: and all of these things with some of these other 435 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: elements on the block. You know, three people got kicked 436 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: off the block Saturday. Most people don't even know what 437 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: that means. And that's not getting talked about, and so 438 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: that means that you're it's being enabled to happen, and 439 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: it's traumatizing and we're traumatized. So the gentleman. I noticed 440 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: because I'm un housed, so I trust me all the 441 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: stuff that's been going with you had I was unhoused, 442 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: I had injured my ankle, and I was on a walker, 443 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: and when the day had happened, like in Chinatown, everything 444 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: shut down. I had to hobble like for two damn 445 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: hours try to find a bathroom. I'm not even talking 446 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: about going to the restaurants sows glory because I had 447 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: snapped the g r R. You know, you go in 448 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: there to get hot food that was nothing there to 449 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: eat because nobody was allowing you in there. So though 450 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: I said, damn, so I gotta go hobble to a 451 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: grocery store. And then I hobbled in the grocery store. 452 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: Then you got people hoarding crap and you can't get 453 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: food in there. So, you know, so even trying to 454 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: do care goods if you crap out of luck because 455 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: you can't get any of this stuff. But that's another 456 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: the other story. But you're right, that's the really overlook. 457 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: People don't talk about that much, right, And so the 458 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: situation I played out today that particular brother. Two weeks 459 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: ago there was another healing march and they held it 460 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: on the beach, and I had come there through sort 461 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: of like the middle class hippie itch camp kind of. 462 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: And then they came to and he has all these flags. 463 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: Everybody knows flag man. That was this issue with his brother, 464 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: like is what works with him? So I I was, 465 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, bumbling along, but I, you know, for the 466 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: healing thing. And then I happened to just walk up 467 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: right when I hear him the same brother, you know, 468 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: my black life didn't matter, yelling get at a group 469 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: of black lives matter, and so I'm like, what the hell? 470 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: So I walk over with my audio recorder on and 471 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, Rother, what's going on you? Okay? And he 472 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: explained the whole situation, and they have been. They came 473 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: on the thing, asked him to move, They moved. They 474 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: asked her a few minutes on the mic to explain 475 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: why they were doing the thing with the flag and 476 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: the thing thing playing, and then basically like we're told 477 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: like this isn't about you, Like this is kind of 478 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: about us, and this is about healing people who've been 479 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: walking in marches, so while you have your issues, like 480 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: it's going yeah, basically, and then they were like we 481 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: made a program, and so they said, we made a 482 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: program and there were people allowed to speak and a 483 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: lot of these were artists, you know, singers who have 484 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: like tons of followers and they've offered to do this 485 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: for free. This is the response to the brother who 486 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: lives on the street from organizing and so they and 487 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: so yeah, so then they tell him, you know, like 488 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: we can and we could just add you into the 489 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: program because there was a program. You feel so understand, like, yeah, 490 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: but I live here, I'm a resident, I'm a neighbor here. Yeah, 491 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: you're standing on where I sleep and like you're and 492 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about black lives matter, and you have something 493 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: you've done eight different musical numbers and had six people 494 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: read poetry who don't actually live on this block, and 495 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: so so then what are you replicating and the design 496 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: of what you're doing right when you when your way 497 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: to do it. But then they were like, so this 498 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 1: is really nuanced. So they came to the block, they 499 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: did it, and you know, and so but it's like, 500 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, how long you got to be on the 501 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: block before people really trust you? Yeah, because you don't 502 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: know what you know if people are you know, do 503 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: good as a white saviors or or whatever they or 504 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, religious religious fanatics and what their intentions are 505 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: to do with you or with your image or whatever. 506 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: So when they come by like kind of like do 507 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: you want to hop on the mic? It's kind of 508 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: like who are you? Where you come from? And like 509 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: why should I dress you? But like that because that's 510 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: a necessary survival tactic, But that's not that's not their reality. 511 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: They have brands. They're like you can look me up. 512 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: You can during my Instagram or Facebook. Of course you 513 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: can look me up and see my whole background. My 514 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: brother's like like you know and so and even the artists. 515 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: These artists have a lot of followers. They're trying to 516 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: tell them brothers and so so like it that's your 517 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: there's a two different cultures at play a tailor two 518 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: cities in their in their meeting now, and it's in 519 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: this George Floyd Floyd moment, and it's like whose city 520 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: are we upholding? Because are you upholding the other city 521 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: that has a schedules a thing, right, you know? Or 522 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: you upholding the one where like some ship pops off 523 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: on the block and you stop and you see itself. Yeah, yeah, 524 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: and everything that might have been your plan for I 525 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: have learned not to make any plans when I'm coming 526 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: to the block. That's very true. I was just telling someone, 527 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: I says, man, this moment, the moment you could have 528 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 1: the best laid plans, and I jump cops, jump off 529 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: or part of you against the wall, take your stuff, 530 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: and then now you're at zero. He got to start 531 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: your whole freaking day backwards in order for you to 532 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: get anybody. Take you two or three days, get back 533 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: to the viet Yeah, like when you get robbed. Yeah, 534 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like perfect connected a bunch of stuff. Man. 535 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: I lost my idea in Social Security guard down in Chinatown. 536 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: And this is like over seven or eight times I've 537 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: lost it. Man. I was so freaking mad because I 538 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: lost it during COVID and I couldn't get you know, 539 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: like the whole I'm not from here, Chicago just shut down. 540 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: I mean they nobody get given, no birth certificates out 541 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: with nobody that. So I'm like, i gotta how am 542 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: I gonna get this time? Am I gonna get? Sister 543 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: Security cat, I'm gonna get my housing because I got 544 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: all of this stuff I need and I couldn't get 545 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: it because things are shut down. So now I'm like 546 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: where am I gonna go? You know? So that's so 547 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: that's another reality that you know what, it's a saying 548 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: that's got this that you ever want to get, Get 549 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: your God to laugh, tell them you're playing tell So 550 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: I've learned to just be like I'm hitting the block. 551 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: Later I will see you around, you know. And so 552 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: and that's that's another thing that's built into all these systems. Exactly, 553 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 1: we were trying to get one of the sisters into 554 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: the hotel project room here and they got to call 555 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: you back, and then you know, if she don't have 556 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: a phone, So she's in my phone, shoom, Dottie's phone, 557 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: this young girl from Santamna College who'll be out on 558 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: the block helping people. And so you're playing phone tag 559 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: for five days with so and so in the office 560 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: because they have layers of like stuff they need to process. 561 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: Stir exactly, why couldn't you figure out that system if 562 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: you don't got no phone? But then also here's a 563 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: thing too, like then get you in there. Then there's 564 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: a whole nother process process. You got to get wandering 565 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: like you're in jail. You got you got got curfew. 566 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean you And the thing is when people tell 567 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: you all these things, and then I had people tell 568 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: me people going in their rooms, taking their stuff and stuff. 569 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's a whole different reality that people 570 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on, right, And so that's 571 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: so that's that's the sort of sault in the woman 572 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: and you're sitting on the block and then you know, 573 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: this happened to him the last week with a bunch 574 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: of young people and artists, right, and then it happens 575 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: again and then and so like I was trying to 576 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: tell that I almost love you too. I was trying 577 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: to tell the elder sis, you know. But it's it's 578 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 1: so and it's a tricky thing. It's very nuanced, right, yeah, 579 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: because they're trying to plan and they're trying to curate, 580 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: and they're trying to bring people in. And so what 581 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 1: I was anyway, I kept talking all day. I talked 582 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: too much. I was trying to tell David, which is 583 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: the thing I've dealt with my whole life. So I'm 584 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: just kind of used to the flow of it. I 585 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: am loud, and I'm dramatic, and I'm I'm an artist 586 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: and I'm passionate, extreme and hell and I cried, you know, 587 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: all in five minutes and so and it's very raw 588 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: for me and like not thought out and not planned 589 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: and not always respectful even, you know. But if there 590 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: is an expectation that real change is going to talk 591 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: about me out that, and if that is not a 592 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: part of the events, then to a certain extent, the 593 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: vibe is off. Nobody screamed at nobody. If nobody, you know, 594 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: imagine being on the block for four hours and you 595 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: want to hear one person talking to themselves or screaming, 596 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: you know how out of character. That would be the 597 00:37:41,440 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: vibe of the land that you're standing. Yeah, shameful or 598 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: embarrassing or hurtful experience to a complete stranger. And we 599 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: based too many of our policy decisions based on that 600 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: false narrative as opposed to the deeper one that we 601 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: have to sometimes shovel up a number by it. I'm 602 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: bliged to say this because like part of it is 603 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: like when you break that barrier and accept help. For example, 604 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: I have just heard yesterday from some of the unhealthed 605 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: community there are worried and they're in Project Booty and 606 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: they're getting the news that they're going to be thrown 607 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: out of Project Bounci and they picked it out of it. 608 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: And that also causes some resistance when people do come 609 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: up and offer help because they can't trust it because 610 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: they will lose some of the things that they are 611 00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: used to survive on the street and then going to 612 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: this and it's not what they anticipated. How do we 613 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: what do we do to try to send the tize? 614 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: What can we do to address these moments about Project Room? 615 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: Is Project Rooms be coming to it? In honestly, I 616 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: wish I had a more definitive answer for you. I 617 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: have heard from some of the service providers that they're 618 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 1: their funding is limited and is expiring, and that obviously 619 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: creates a lot of the rumors and and a lot 620 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: of the fear. Then I'm I'm I'm hearing you know 621 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: is in this morning's paper today as we're recording this Friday, 622 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: that LASS is about to ramp up and really want 623 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:45,240 Speaker 1: to expand Project Room Key. I think it's an open question. 624 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: I think I don't think there's anybody who is looking 625 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: to end Project Room Key, but I don't know that 626 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: the commitments have been made to continue it. So there 627 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: is a a baked in uncertainty there and anxiety, and 628 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: I think sometimes it's easy for the policymakers, for the 629 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: bureaucracy to think, Okay, well, if the funding expires on 630 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 1: X date, as long as we take care of it 631 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: by X minus one, we're fine. But it does impact 632 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: the decision of someone do I leave my community and 633 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: go into this other place? What am I going to 634 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: lose if if I do that? One of the things 635 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: I've tried to communicate two people that live in my district. 636 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: They're often baffled by why someone won't leave an encampment 637 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: to go to a shelter. And often I've heard over 638 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: the past several years, all the emergency winter shelter is 639 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 1: open and offered to give somebody a ride and they said, no, 640 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: see their service resistance. They want to stay on the street. 641 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: I've tried to pivot it and explain, you know, a 642 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: different scenario or a different perspective that you are. You're 643 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: you're living on the street, You've been traumatized, victimized, had 644 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: false promises repeatedly to you. Suddenly a stranger comes up 645 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: to you and says, I'm going to take you away 646 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: from everything that is familiar to you and take you 647 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: to someplace else. No, you can't bring your dog. Now, 648 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: your spouse can't come with you. Now you're going to leave. 649 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,399 Speaker 1: I'm going to take you someplace else. You don't really 650 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: know where it is. And oh, by the way, they're 651 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: gonna throw you out at six am. That's a very 652 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: different things. It's why I think a developing appreciation of that, 653 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: I think is why the city eventually get around to 654 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: trying to do bridge housing as opposed to the the 655 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:03,320 Speaker 1: the emergency winter shelter. But I mean there's you know, 656 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: one of the things. Can I ask the question about 657 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: the bridge shelter because because my audience sometimes may not 658 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: know what bridget is outside of them. So bridge shelter 659 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: is a shelter that is designed to get on the 660 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: house to off the street. But it's a little bit 661 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: different because they have I think they work to try 662 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: to get them in housing. If I was correct that, yeah, 663 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll sort of go broader since yeh yeah, 664 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: since your audience may not be as familiar with some 665 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: of the data in Los Angeles, is you know, from 666 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: my perspective, historically Los Angeles and this may be the 667 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: case in other places, as well. But historically Los Angeles 668 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: has has has tried to respond to homelessness with one, 669 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: maybe two solutions at a time, and for a very 670 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: long time, the solution in Los Angeles was permanent support 671 00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: of housing or nothing else, or maybe permanence or permanent 672 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: suport of housing, and maybe a limited number of fairly 673 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 1: crappy and not particularly good emergency shelters. And one of 674 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: the things I've always tried to do is broaden the 675 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 1: range of services and options that are being offered. Given 676 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: the permanent supportive housing is taking forever. We're letting people 677 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: live and suffer and die on the streets in the meantime, 678 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: and there's got to be a better way. So one 679 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: of the things the city started doing a couple of 680 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 1: years ago, and it's done it slowly and very expensively, 681 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: is create what we have called bridge housing, which is 682 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: a series of I guess twenty or so different mostly 683 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: one hundred bed transitional shelters around the city, either trailers 684 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: or membrane tents, which are unlike the emergency shelter program, 685 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: they are twenty four to seven. They have staffing in 686 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: place to help do housing placement, case manage your facility, storage, 687 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,800 Speaker 1: you can bring your pets. And the idea of bridge housing, 688 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: which has sort of been really upended by COVID nineteen. 689 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: The idea of bridge housing is that it was supposed 690 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: to be a place to get you off of the street, 691 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: out of the encampment while they're finding something more long term. 692 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: And the idea was that you have one hundred beds, 693 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 1: but over the course of the year, each bed would 694 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: serve several people because you'd be moving people through COVID 695 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 1: not a lot. Well, I have a question too, because 696 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,879 Speaker 1: there's a conversation that I'd never heard of until as 697 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: at attention because when you create bridge shelters on this 698 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: thing is called enforcement zone. And I was wondering why 699 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: is this Why because you know you only have one 700 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 1: hundred there and how people still magically with over sixty 701 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: thousand on house people if we create these things, where 702 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,720 Speaker 1: are the how it's going to go? If we create 703 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: these enforcement zone that because there's been a push with 704 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 1: some nimbies to reinstitute police officers and business improvement districts 705 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: to crack down on that and re institute enforcement thone 706 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 1: and for the audience, and he explain what enforcement zones 707 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: are and how to be because I feel that's maybe 708 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: not forward thinking because we've got fifty thousand on house 709 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: people and we're not naturally going to once we have 710 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: one hundred shelter that they're not magically going to, especially 711 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: with the complexities of false promises and and other things 712 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: that go on with the life of on how people 713 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: that we talked a little bit on that. Yeah, So 714 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 1: when when the mayor proposed bridge housing in the State 715 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: of the City speech a couple of years ago, Now, 716 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: the way he framed it, the way he proposed it, 717 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: in the way it was was pitched to communities was 718 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: you get a shelter that will be an alternative to 719 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 1: people living in encampments and in exchange for the neighborhood 720 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 1: taking the shelter. Because almost every neighborhood pushes back against 721 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 1: the moment enhanced enforcement clean up and restrictions on camping 722 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: in the area nearby, and that has been upended by 723 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: a couple of different things. One is homelessness has continued 724 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:54,479 Speaker 1: to increase dramatically, even though I mean it certainly didn't 725 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 1: look this way. But even though l a city in 726 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: La County and last housing people at a greater clip 727 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: than they ever have much greater clip than they ever have. 728 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: People are becoming or re becoming homeless at a greater 729 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: rate than their housing and COVID nineteen is exacerbating that dramatically, 730 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: and we can see it on the streets everywhere. In 731 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 1: the middle of this in March, I think I think 732 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: it was the last meeting the city council had before 733 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 1: we went into stay at home orders and started doing 734 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:32,320 Speaker 1: zoom meetings. I got the council to agree to follow 735 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 1: CDC guidelines which said do not enforce the taking down 736 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: of tents because CDC Centers for Disease Control says it 737 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: will actually make the public health crisis worse. Right before 738 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: our council recess a couple of weeks ago, one of 739 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,479 Speaker 1: my colleagues tried to slip in an emergency proposal which 740 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: wasn't noticed to the public in advance, to change that 741 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 1: begin enforcement again. And I manage on a procedural matter 742 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: to to derail that until later it's going to come 743 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 1: back up again. You know, we we we have consistently 744 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: got caught l a historically in a fight over punitive 745 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 1: measures and and and criminalization stuff right vehicular living or 746 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: sidewalk camping or whatever. And there are times when we 747 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: have a council spent hours hours discussing stuff, and you know, 748 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: every council member is hearing from from hundreds of people 749 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,959 Speaker 1: who are saying, my kid can't walk to school because 750 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: the sidewalks aren't and that's a that's a legit and 751 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: a genuine concern, and for people with disabilities, legit and 752 00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: genuine concern. But you know, the the the responsible, the 753 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: effective way to to to respond to that is to 754 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: have as many and as long and as robust discussions 755 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: about faster ways and less expensive ways to house people 756 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: than it is to keep dealing with the consequence of 757 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: the encampments. And but this also a conundrum, uh problem 758 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: about it is because even though we are trying to 759 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: do that, they're still the same people that complain about 760 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,720 Speaker 1: that they can't walk or they feel unsafe for their children. 761 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: And Okay, we hear we're going to put some places 762 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood where they can be. And then they 763 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: give you and and the and how community uh push 764 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: back even on that, and their solutions sometimes to be 765 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,280 Speaker 1: very pospoking but blinging us out into there's the desert 766 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: and things like that. So I mean you know, it's 767 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 1: like it's a catch twenty two. You want to and 768 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: I I always say that, and I don't always wonder 769 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: because then this may be an unpopular opinion. It's not 770 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: all in a city council's call. It's it's and I 771 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: always say it's the I want to say in a repaint. Indeed, 772 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: that have made a louder voices, and they have connected 773 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: with the law enforcements who uh caters to their calls 774 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: more so than my call. I mentioned in one of 775 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 1: my episodes when I was attacked by league vigilants that 776 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 1: were housed and I tried to call the police and 777 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: report them, but I was just discounted. But let me 778 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: quite bad, and they could have they had more of 779 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 1: the power to listen to them than they would listen 780 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: to me. So there is a major uh uh balance 781 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: of rights, like, for example, there's a three one one 782 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: numbers to call for encampment or if you want to 783 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 1: report about an unhoused camp, but there's no numbers for 784 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 1: what happens when a group of a house did you 785 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: can throw a bag of crack on fieces on me 786 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: or try to set me on fire. The only number 787 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: that they have is two one one. So that's also 788 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: buies into the idea that there is something friminally inherent 789 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: with house community. So that's that's the thing that I noticed, 790 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 1: is say, how can we shift to an educational point 791 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: that being a house is not a crime. And I 792 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: think that's one of the things I really would like 793 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: more council members to really start talking to the membies about, 794 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: you stop calling them on on on things that they 795 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,439 Speaker 1: survive with. It's not against the law for an house 796 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: person to sit in the park. They have the right 797 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: to sit in the park. They have the right to 798 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: go to the restroom. They you know, they just because 799 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: I've had police called them about that some dangerous guys 800 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,720 Speaker 1: sitting you know, just sitting and just enjoying my ease 801 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: like anybody else because they're afraid of the children or 802 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 1: the older, the elderly or things like that. So I 803 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: think that's one of the things that really kind of 804 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,240 Speaker 1: disappoints see you, and like I feel like the enforcement 805 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,839 Speaker 1: that thankfully that they are being offended. But but I'm 806 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: also kind of concerned about with Judge Carter's movement, and 807 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: I for one audience that's not from California, that there's 808 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 1: been some he just UH investment going on, and Judge 809 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 1: Carter has ruled that House members, due to the safety issues, 810 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:29,439 Speaker 1: cannot be over underpasses, overpasses and nearby within five hundred feat. 811 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 1: But war visit housing and the COVID nineteen pandemic, where 812 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: are they're going to go? And then too, if people 813 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 1: are trying to read reinstitute the criminalization peace to dealing 814 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 1: with the house problems, that's going to make it even worse. 815 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:51,320 Speaker 1: And on top of that, the risks and the ebition 816 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: lacks of ebition bands and moratoriums has slowly come into 817 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: the end and getting want to be out here over 818 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 1: forty five percent. How people want to be on the 819 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: streets too, So this does look like we're heading down 820 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 1: a UH crane wreck. That's the better metaphor that I 821 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 1: could think of. So can you tell us a little 822 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: bit about how would we like to accomplish this with 823 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 1: Judge Carter's giving Good Life September? Yeah, sure, And I 824 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: think it's also important to note for historical context, Judge 825 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: Carter is the judge who oversaw the UH the litigation 826 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:37,760 Speaker 1: over the encampments in Orange County that wound up forcing 827 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: cities in Orange County to to build shelters and and 828 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 1: and put a lot of people in hotel rooms there 829 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,239 Speaker 1: after some initial concern and pushback, and has from from 830 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 1: what I can tell at least from my approach in 831 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: the western Los Angeles has been uh, pretty successful. There 832 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: may be a difference of opinion and I haven't heard it, 833 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,800 Speaker 1: but that the people have gotten in hotel rooms and 834 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: that people are not dying at the right they were 835 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: on the streets. And Judge Carter is now presiding over 836 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 1: a case that has been brought and Judge Carter is 837 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: very unorthodox. He he calls elected officials late at night. 838 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: He brings people into the room and sort of is 839 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: is almost like a circus ring master trying to get 840 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: them to make deals on the spot. He is absolutely 841 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: intolerant of the well we'll have to check and get 842 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 1: back to you in a month philosophy. He's like, no, 843 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 1: I want to know in five minutes. Give me an answer. 844 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 1: So Judge Carter has basically told the city of Los 845 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 1: Angeles you need to get serious about getting people off 846 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: the street. And he has, for whatever reason, focused on 847 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:04,919 Speaker 1: the freeway underpasses. I'm not a huge fan of that approach. Yes, 848 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: there are health risks underneath being that close to the freeway, 849 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 1: there are also some benefits being protected from the elements, 850 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:18,560 Speaker 1: the rain, the harsh sunlight, and anybody who's living on 851 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 1: the street is exposed to a series of trauma and vulnerability, 852 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 1: health and otherwise, And so that wouldn't have been my choice. 853 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 1: I also don't have a ton of freeways in my district, 854 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: so pressure on that doesn't really help me get the 855 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 1: resources I need for additional services in my district. Having 856 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: said that, though I've spoken to the judge a lot, 857 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,800 Speaker 1: In fact, I was with them for a couple hours 858 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 1: the other day. We met at my office in Westchester, 859 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 1: and as I was waiting for him to arrive, one 860 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: of the loss of outreach workers came over and told 861 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: me that Ann has named Don, who lived outside the 862 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: door of my office, had passed away about an hour earlier, 863 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 1: as if to underscore, you know, the horrible plight and 864 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: the urgent need to act in response to homelessness, and 865 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 1: London breeds sort of kicked off that. In San Francisco, 866 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 1: HERB Wesson and a number of my colleagues put in 867 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: a motion which I fully support. This weekend BLM is 868 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: having a big public meeting in South l A about 869 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: the issue, where myself and a number of electeds are 870 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 1: going not to talk to listen, not just about what 871 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 1: the problem is, but what the solution should be and 872 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: how the alternatives should be crafted. Equally important, though, and 873 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: maybe in some ways more so because it touches more 874 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 1: people on really a daily basis, is the intersection of 875 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 1: policing and transportation or mobility, you know, whether it's the 876 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: Metro system and I'm a board member of Metro, or 877 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:07,399 Speaker 1: it's LAPD and the city with traffic stops. People who 878 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: are black and brown are disproportionately targeted by law enforcement 879 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: for fair evasion or broken tail light or whatever. And 880 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 1: we want to end the phenomenon of people getting pulled 881 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: over for driving while black. And if you do not 882 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: have freedom of movement on the transit system, walking in 883 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: your neighborhood, driving across Los Angeles, you don't have freedom 884 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: of movement, you don't have freedom. And Marcusaras, Dawson, herb Wesson, 885 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: and Current Price and I, with the full support of 886 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 1: our Department of Transportation, are trying to create a different 887 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: model on how to do that. We'd be the first 888 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: I think in the country to do it to get 889 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,920 Speaker 1: police out of traffic enforcement. But we're going to be 890 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: working with BLM, and we're going to be working with 891 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,439 Speaker 1: push LA and Stop the Stops and trying to create 892 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: something different because we just need to you know, Molina A. 893 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: Gola has said it. I mean, we need to reimagine 894 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: public safety. And you know, if now isn't the moment, 895 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't know when the hell it's gonna be. Thank 896 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 1: you very much jumping them with Mike Bonn and my 897 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: time is almost up on the zoon and I want 898 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 1: to thank my listeners who has been watching and listening. 899 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 1: Thank you all for listening to this the very impactful 900 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,439 Speaker 1: conversation that we really need to have and I hope 901 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: again relieved in the light of other tat Thank you again, 902 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for listening to episode twenty nine. 903 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: In order to know where we're going, we must know 904 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 1: where we have been. If we destroy every element or 905 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: every edifice tells of our stories and our struggles, then 906 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: we won't know the price that was paid. Thanks to 907 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 1: steal Or Henderson from Media in House, I thank you 908 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 1: all for listening, and may we again meet in the 909 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 1: light of understanding