1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Ah beaute force. If it doesn't work, you're just not 2 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to Software Radio Special Operations, military 3 00:00:25,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: news and straight talk with the guys and the community. 4 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Software Radio on Time, on Target. Very excited to have 5 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: on with us today. Jared van Res CEO of VASCAR 6 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: Technology Group and has led close protection detail for CEOs, dignitaries, 7 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: heads of state, celebrities, and I was looking at pretty 8 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: much every continent on the globe, which is pretty cool. Yeah, 9 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: pretty much. I've been fortunate to travel to more than 10 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: seventy countries in the world, um, and have experienced some 11 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: pretty amazing and meat things considering where I came from 12 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: and my family and all that kind of stuff. And also, 13 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: the co author of which is right in front of me, 14 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: Public Figures, Private Lives and Introduction to Protective Security for 15 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: High net worth Individuals and Family Opics, is you. You 16 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: co wrote that with three other guys, And I've been 17 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: looking through the book today and it's getting stellar reviews 18 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: on Amazon, And as some people have said on Amazon, 19 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: it's basically like a deep dive into the lives of 20 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: these high network individuals and working security for them. So 21 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: if it's something you're interested in. This is a great 22 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: book on that. Um, I want to get into your 23 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: background since I think the interesting thing is that you 24 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: don't have a military background and got into this line 25 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: of work. But you were actually referred to us by 26 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: our social media guy, Nick Betts. I was wondering how 27 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: you know Nick? Yeah, and Nick and I used to 28 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: work for an executive protection firm based in Los Angeles, 29 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: and so we worked a lot of details together and 30 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: uh kind of struck struck up a friendship long after that, 31 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: so we keep in touch and talk and chat and uh, yeah, 32 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: I think he passed your information or my information onto you. Yeah. 33 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely needs a great guy. So, as I said, I 34 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: think the first thing we could get into is I 35 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: just I think it's um just out of the ordinary 36 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: to meet someone with your background who has no military experience. 37 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: It's almost like getting on a plane and a pilot 38 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: has no military experience, So like, how did you get 39 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: into this line of work? Yeah, so it's kind of interesting. 40 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: So I grew up in a really little small town 41 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: in Alaska. I love the place, but I also equated 42 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: to Uh you ever seen that movie in Napoleon Dynamite. 43 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of so It's kind of like that in 44 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: a little bit where a small town, small mines where 45 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: you know, you know, there's a lot of Uncle Rico's 46 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: in that town talking about if think, you know, coach 47 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: would have put him in, uh in the game and 48 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: fourth quarter we would have been state champs or you know, 49 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: relive in their glory days of the athletics. Yeah, yeah, 50 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. And there's nothing wrong with that. I love 51 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: that little town, but I just I kind of grew 52 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: up with a strange family. We're kind of the town 53 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: weirdos in the sense, and uh, I wanted to get 54 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: the hell out of there, and I wanted to experience 55 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: something different. I wanted to see the world. And I 56 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: had a love of martial arts growing up and did 57 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: a lot of that. And I was reading it's kind 58 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: of embarrassing as reading black Belt magazine back when people 59 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: used to read magazines, and there was an article about 60 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: this little executive protection school in Colorado, and I decided 61 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: that I wanted to, uh, you know, go towards that 62 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: goal of getting into the executive protection field. I was 63 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: fifteen years old, which is kind of unheard of, and 64 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: I had a lot of people that kind of dissuaded 65 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: me from going in that direction. You'll never make any money. 66 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: You're too young. You know this, that and the other, 67 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: and pretty hardheaded when somebody tells me I can't do something. 68 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: So um, I wrote to the school said I wanna, 69 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, I want to, you know, go to your school. 70 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: I was sixteen at the time, and they said, you know, 71 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: you're too young. And I got a lot of recommendation 72 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: from my house high school co slur. I got a scholarship. 73 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: I paid for it myself. I think the schools about 74 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: ten or fifteen thousand dollars back then, and you know, 75 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: I was working for different jobs to pay for it. 76 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: And they had kind of a distance education portion and 77 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: then after you passed that, and then you went in 78 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: and you did some hands on training there and kind 79 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: of learned the ropes. And I did that and I 80 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: graduated at nineteen. It was the youngest graduate in that school, 81 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: a two year program. And then I said, okay, I'm 82 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: ready to protect people. And everybody laughed at me and said, you're, 83 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, a young kid, and you got a lot 84 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: to learn. And I took every ship job in security 85 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: that I could. You know, once I turned twenty one. 86 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: You know, I was bouncing at bars, I was working 87 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: uniform security, he was doing hostile terminations. Just everything I 88 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: could to build my resume up, and then I got 89 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: a lucky break. You know. I basically used everything that 90 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: that that people had against me to my benefit. You know, 91 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm too young, don't have any military, don't have any 92 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: law enforcement. Well what can I do that other people 93 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: couldn't that? You know, I could blend in with the 94 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: children of prominent families as an older brother or an 95 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: uncle and go play basketball with them or do something 96 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: where I could blend in. And that was kind of 97 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: my wedge into getting into into the industry. And I 98 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: had a lot of success with that, and then it 99 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: just kind of grew and grew and grew, and my experience, 100 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, grew with that. It's interesting that this is 101 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: just one of those things I've noted myself, is that 102 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 1: it seems like there's different types of clients, of course, 103 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: but there's the type of client that they deliberately want 104 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: that guy who is like the juice up former soft 105 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: guy with the full sleeve tattoos because they're looking for 106 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: an image. And John McAfee and then there and then 107 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: there's the then there's the type of client that, as 108 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: you said, like, they do not want that they want 109 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: you to just blend in you or not to out 110 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, definitely you don't want to outshine the client 111 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: in himself or herself, but that you're you're, like you said, 112 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: just blend in with the family. Yeah. I mean, I 113 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: think there's different levels of executive protection as well. And 114 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with you know, guys that are much 115 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: bigger than me and stronger than me and look the 116 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: part and have the cool lower back tattoos and all 117 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: and all those things. Um, But I mean, ultimately it's 118 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: kind of like I equate it too. If you look 119 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: at a millionaire versus a billionaire, a millionaire really has 120 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: to flost fucking hard, right. They want to show all 121 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: the cool ship that they have their their car or 122 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: this or that. Billionaires have so much money they don't 123 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: give a funk about any of that. You know, will 124 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: drive their priests and they will drive their you know, 125 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: their little regular car. I've said it before. I think 126 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: I've mentioned it on the podcast. Um. When I was 127 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: working at Steve at Serious Sex m Steve Forbes was 128 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: a regular and it was one of those guys who 129 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: would come in with absolutely no one, coming solo with 130 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: a with a cup of coffee from McDonald's and be like, hey, 131 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: what's up, guys, while you know, with these rappers that 132 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: were on the come up came in with like a 133 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: twenty man entourage and it was just you know, like 134 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: Steve Forbes is worth probably a million times what you're worth. Yeah, 135 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: and there's a difference between you know, like you see 136 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: the rappers and I've worked in the music industry as well. 137 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: I fucking love doing it. It's the most fun I've 138 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: ever had in the industry when you can travel with 139 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: people and deal with crazy fans and all that kind 140 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: of stuff. Um, But ultimately, you know, those people aren't 141 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: full time, you know, the musicians and the people that 142 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: are touring, they only have security. Um, you know, typically 143 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna pay for it, you know, and that could 144 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: be you know, one nation, you know, a Live Nation 145 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: or one of these companies that that puts them on tour. 146 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: But in their regular life they're not having you know, 147 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: regular security. And then the folks that were typically dealing 148 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: with are have a net worth about six hundred million 149 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: dollars or above. You know, you think about it, you 150 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: think about uh, Taylor Swift, right, she's probably one of 151 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: the biggest artists in the world. You know, she's what 152 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: made seventy million last year or the year before, and 153 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, and you think, oh, that's a lot of money. 154 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: But ultimately, how much is the manager take, how much 155 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: has you know, the agent take, how much the attorneys take? 156 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: And then can she afford a you know, two billion 157 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: dollar around the clock protection detail at her house? Maybe, 158 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: but it's still a stretch in comparison to somebody who's 159 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: worth six hundred million, six hundred million in the bank, 160 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: right at least about how much does it cost? Because 161 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: I remember asking a friend of mine an executive protection 162 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: uh you know about you know, to have the one 163 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: bodyguard and the suburban in New York City. He's like, 164 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: that's like half a million dollars a year just to 165 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: start easily. I mean, yeah, I mean it depends. It 166 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: depends on if you're paying a company or you're paying 167 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: the person. Um, you know, what is you know, is 168 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: it seven? Is it only when they're out you know 169 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: doing a that's because you can find you can find 170 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: somebody good money. You can find somebody that just is 171 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: kind of the primary for a client and they're making 172 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, you know, two grand a year easy. But 173 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're looking at seven at somebody's residents 174 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: to start, you know, you're looking at least a billion bucks, 175 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: at least a million bucks to do that. People are 176 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: working in shifts, and yeah, shifts. You mean you have 177 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: four or five people you need time off in time 178 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: for training if you do it right, you know, all 179 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: those kinds of things interesting. And also, I guess another 180 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: thing I'd like to ask you too, is the difference 181 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: between armed security and unarmed security. Um. And sometimes it's 182 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: not uh, it's not even an option right to carry 183 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: in some of that when you're traveling with a client 184 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: abroad and things like this. Yeah, so, I mean it's 185 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: it's so different. I mean, you know, executive protection and 186 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: corporate executive executive protection very different than like say that 187 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: PSD operations in the stat um. A lot of the 188 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: military folks are doing over in the sandbox and you know, 189 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: Afghanistan or in Iraq. You know where you are, you 190 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: know you can carry and you're you're you know, a 191 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: paramilitary operation when you're working with you know, folks in 192 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: the celebrity or corporate environment. I mean it's not you're 193 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: basically on your own. So yeah, if you have your 194 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: concealed carry, that's great, But what happens when you you've 195 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: got to Rwanda, your Ganda, Paris or somewhere else. Uh, 196 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: You're not going to get any reciprocity to carry in 197 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: those countries. And also it's a it's not important either. 198 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean, firearms in my line of work is a tool, 199 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: but it's probably the most worthless tool in a sense 200 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: of you know, what exactly might happen in emergency, probably 201 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: five hundred more times of a chance of having a 202 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: medical emergency then a firearm. And it's also you know, 203 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: reactive versus you know, you know, being proactive, and I 204 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: mean you know, uh, law enforcement is reactive. There's a crime, 205 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: we're going to react to it. We're gonna draw a gun. 206 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: You know. Executive protection is you know, take your client 207 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: and get them out of there. You're not there to 208 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: engage the threat or take anybody down. You're there to 209 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: save the principle. And so it's like covered evacuate essentially, right, 210 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: So seeing all those situations that are dangerous and scary 211 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: and trying to get the principle out of their mitigating risk, 212 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: not you know, jumping in the middle of it. Right, 213 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: So you're not gonna try to play Dan Bills are 214 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: in and tell the cop give me your gun, bro, 215 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: you know my background? Yeah, yeah, yeah, And the guys like, 216 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: who the funk are you? You know? Um yeah, um exactly. 217 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's different. It's it's logistics. It's a real 218 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: cerebral profession. I mean you have to blend in and 219 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: you have to be a social chameleon and not embarrass 220 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: your client. And you know to you know, I come 221 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: from a very you know, hum poor little family and uh, 222 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, it takes a lot to learn how to 223 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: carry yourself in high society and and you know, with 224 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: people that are the most influential, powerful, most money in 225 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: the world. You know, how are you interacting with him? 226 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: How are you doing it in a way where you're 227 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: not looking like an ast um. So, you know, just 228 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: as you're going to interact differently with your grandmother that 229 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: you are with your boys, you know, when you're out 230 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: drinking or you know, playing basketball or whatnot. Right, I 231 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: think people also miss understand how much work it is 232 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: you guys do, like especially if you're like a one 233 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: man band or maybe just two guys, like it is 234 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: a lot of work to plan the routes, to do 235 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: the site surveys, and plan the security. And I have 236 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: friends who have done executive security and they're just exhausted 237 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: because of the amount of work involved in it. Yeah. 238 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: So you know, you think if you're your principle has 239 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: a ten or twelve hour day, and some of them 240 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: even have longer days than that, I mean you easily 241 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: can add you know, four more hours on your day 242 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: than the principle has. I mean it's dragon, you know, 243 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: dragging long days out there. You know, just all the 244 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: pretty planning, like you say, all the advanced were all 245 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: of the all the stuff that you have to do 246 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: to make ship happen seamlessly for your principle. You know, 247 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: we make magic happen. It's always the joke, but it's true. 248 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: Principles have some crazy, wild requests and you know, we 249 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: do whatever we can to make it make it work. Um, 250 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: it takes a lot of effort. The stuff about working 251 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: on arms, by the way, is pretty much spot on. 252 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: Is the same thing that Tommy Tobin said when he 253 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: was on the podcast Who's guarded guys in Silicon Valley, 254 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I think some people were surprised and 255 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: he's like, no, I don't carry, and uh it seems 256 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: that seems to be the norm when you're when you're 257 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: guarding kind of worth. Yeah, yeah, I mean it depends. 258 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: I mean I carried for ten years straight. But I 259 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: carried for ten years straight when we were in um, 260 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, when we were in California, because I had 261 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: my California CCW. Any time we went anywhere else unless 262 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: my firearm, you know, I had a reciprocity in that state. 263 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: You know, then I wouldn't carry. And you go to 264 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: other places in the world you don't carry. So it's different. 265 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there's an art this um to this career 266 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: field that's different. It's different than being able to like 267 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: flash a badge and give ship that you you want 268 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: to happen. But if you don't have a badge and 269 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: you don't have any sort of authority, you have to 270 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: be able to kind of use your skill set and 271 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: use your your social skills to to make stuff happen. 272 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: And that's that's tough for people. You know, you have 273 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: to know how to communicate to people in a way 274 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: that they're going to hear your message. If I come 275 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: in there and I try to big dick somebody, they're 276 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: gonna you know, they're not going to help me. And 277 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: then other times you you have to big dick people. 278 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: So it really depends on where you're at, what you're 279 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: doing right, and knowing that balance, which is difficult. I 280 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: remember I had a conversation a few is back with 281 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: a guy who did this UM former Australian Special Operations Guide. 282 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: He was doing UM what amounted to executive protection in Australia, 283 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: and by law they were not some weird law. They 284 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: were not allowed to carry guns to protect the person, 285 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: but you could carry a gun to protect protect um 286 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: expensive items. So like when they were at his house, 287 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: they had guns to protect the expensive artwork on the walls, 288 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: not the client. When they went traveling, they had the 289 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: guns to protect the thirty dollar rolex is that each 290 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: of them were wearing, not the client. Was just one 291 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: of those weird things as bizarre, Yeah, it is. It 292 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: is super strange. And I mean gun laws across the 293 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: US are are are pretty strange as well so and 294 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: the state by state obviously, right, well, what are some 295 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: of the weirder requests you've gotten from clients over the 296 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: years about things they'd want you to do, and you 297 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: just had to be like, no, um, you know, I've 298 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: been fortunate in a sense of, UM, I haven't had 299 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, uh, crazy requests other than you know, um, 300 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: some kind of some dorky guys are super rich and 301 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: want to get laid and I can't talk to women, 302 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: so um, I have to go pick up on on ladies, 303 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: not for me, but for my boss. And that's a 304 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: little strange and interesting. And then it's always fun when 305 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: I come back and tell my wife all these cool 306 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: stories of why I stink like perfume and you know 307 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: what I did on the road, you know. But I've 308 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: been pretty fortunate, you know, I'm not having to deal 309 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: with too too much craziness on on on wild things. 310 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: It's more of like, hey, I wanna I want to 311 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: go to Paris tomorrow or right now, and then you're 312 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, you're jumping on an airplane and making stuff happen. 313 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: I think one of the most interesting days I had 314 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: was I was with a client in Florida watching a 315 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: watching one of the shuttles launch, and then the client said, oh, 316 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: I want to go to New Orleans and um and 317 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: and watch my daughter filmed her movie. So we go 318 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: from Florida in the morning watching a shuttle launch to um, 319 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: you know, New Orleans filming a movie, and then later 320 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: that night we went to a ballet in San Francisco. 321 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, Holy sh it, what did I do today? 322 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: I was just in Florida this morning, New Orleans in 323 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: the afternoon, and now I'm watching a ballet in San Francisco. 324 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: I mean, when can you do that in your normal life? 325 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: You know, I can't afford to fly private, right, but 326 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: when you can get on the jet that you know 327 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: flies faster than night, I mean, you can get to 328 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: places and do things that you wouldn't be able to do. Right. 329 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: So how did NASCAR Technology Group get started? Yeah, so 330 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: it's a spinoff from a company as Solution that I 331 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: was working with and we were trying to come up 332 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: with an app for advanced work that can save agents, 333 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, time in the field by being able to 334 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: do everything digitally, uh and you know, and just saving 335 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: time to catalog that information. So you know, principles can say, Okay, 336 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: you look really good in your in your cool little 337 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: suit and your earpiece. But what exactly have you done 338 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: for me? What do you do? And you can say, well, 339 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: we've done you know, you know, fifty eight advances last month. 340 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: We've you know, we've we did you know, two hundred 341 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: legs of trips for you We've done this. We've not 342 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: being able to pull metrics and data. That's just where 343 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: the future of our industry is going. We also had 344 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: an interesting incident were we're protecting a principle in Paris 345 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: and two thousand and fifteen during you know, right when 346 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: that terrorist attack happened, I think they killed a hundred 347 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: and thirty seven people, and we grabbed the principle to leave, 348 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: and the prince says, I'm not leaving. I have thirty 349 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: people here on the ground, thirty employees. I'm not going anywhere, 350 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: And so we hunker down with at a hotel with 351 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: him and had the painstakingly you know, use of culture 352 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: to figure out where all of his employees were and 353 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: make sure that they were safe. And we thought, ship, 354 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: there's going to be a better way that we can 355 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: do this in the future because we always do your 356 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: after action reports and kind of analyze, you know, everything 357 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: that we've done and how can we do it better? 358 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: And so we One of the things of Protection Manager 359 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: is the app that we created with Asgard, was we 360 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: have to put some tracking capabilities in there. So now 361 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: I can add as many ancillary principles that aren't really 362 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: under the protection circle protection bubble, and I contract them 363 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: and I can see where they're at, and they can 364 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: swipe for an emergency, and we can you know, the 365 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: Global Ops Center can see where they're at on a map, 366 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: We can get their GPS coordinates and can provide you know, 367 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: help and support any time, um, there's an emergency. And 368 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: so there's been so much interest in the app. Uh, 369 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: and we we broke off from the other company, as 370 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: Solution and created Asgard Technology to promote Protection Manager and 371 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: kind of have an offshoot of that other company. So 372 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 1: that's about it. A little bit of a quick nut 373 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: shelf for you. Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned that, I know, 374 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: um Taylor, Swift, Ariana Grande, a few others they use 375 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: an app similar to what you're describing. Different company, though, Yeah, 376 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: I think there's different. You know, there's other tracking software 377 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: apps out there that are that are helpful. I think 378 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: the one that I think that's different about our company 379 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: is it's all meant for executive protection and for what 380 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: it is we're doing. So, I mean, you can do 381 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: everything within the app in regards to executive protection and 382 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: pre planning and advanced work and all the operational stuff. 383 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: While the other apps are just kind of tracking apps. 384 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: This is kind of the full umbrella of executive protection. 385 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. And you think that's the future of 386 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: where executive protection is going to go. I mean, I 387 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: think so. I think that you know, you get a 388 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: lot of old school folks that are like, oh, I 389 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: don't want to put anything you know online about my 390 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to use an app or 391 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: my principles and ops sack and all that, And I 392 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: say to them, well, um, you know, don't you use 393 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: you know WiFi when you're at the hotel or using 394 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: you know banking, you know mobile banking. You know, Um, 395 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: I know when you're using your adult friend Finder account, 396 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: you're probably using it in the same phone that you're 397 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 1: using it when you're you know, protecting a principle. So 398 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: come out about the op seck. You know, everything is 399 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: encryptod at rest. I mean, we're taking all the the 400 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: necessary steps to ensure that information is private. I'm CEO 401 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: of the company, and if you were to create an account, 402 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: I don't get any information about your trips and what 403 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: you're doing or any of your advance work. All I 404 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: can see is where I can send a bill to you? Right? 405 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: Or are there any funny stories you can tell about? Um? 406 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: You know, maybe without mentioning names to protect the innocent 407 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: or not so innocent, but people have really screwed up 408 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: on the job, like some just funny stuff that you 409 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: can think of off hand. Yes, I've got I've got 410 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: a ton of stuff, and I only talk about how 411 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: I fucked up. And I think that that's it's always 412 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: an important thing because we're in such a tough guy 413 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: industry where we're the biggest, were the baddest, were the toughest. 414 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: We don't ever screw up. But I think the people 415 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: that have really done ship in this industry have had 416 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: a lot of screw ups. UM, so I can talk 417 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: about that a lot. M There's actually a story in 418 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 1: the book. It's a story of Mark Uh and it's anonymous, 419 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: and but it is a story about myself. I was 420 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: working with a client for many years and this guy 421 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: just had the worst personality ever, and and I tried 422 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: really hard, um two, you know, just kind of develop 423 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: a rapport with him, and the only thing I could 424 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: talk to him about was hot women and sports. And 425 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: so I said to him, you know, one day we're 426 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: talking about, you know how if you're a beautiful woman 427 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: you really don't have to try hard in life sometimes 428 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: because guys will just want to do ship for you 429 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: because they want to be around you and they're so 430 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: beautiful and whatnot. And and he totally agreed. And then I, 431 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: you know, I made the wise crack. You know, I said, 432 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: when you're an ugly guy like you and me, you know, 433 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: we gotta try hard for everything. And he like kind 434 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: of looks at me, and he goes, yeah, but I'm 435 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: not ugly, And I'm thinking, I'm thinking, like, oh ship, 436 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: come on, man, it's a fucking joke, like, you know, like, 437 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: but I can't say that to the boss. And I go, well, 438 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't it be you know a little bit weird if 439 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: I said you were an attractive guy, you know, And 440 00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: it was just like fucking bomb bom bomb. And um, 441 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, a month or two later, I was working 442 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: with him anymore. So I mean, um, there's always those 443 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: people though, with like no sense of humor at all. 444 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: I remember, um, my friend Steve from Covino and Rich 445 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: actually over it's serious. Uh. He had to do a 446 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: show with this guy who was like a bodybuilder. I 447 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: think it was Derek Pounds, I think it was his name, 448 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: and they kind of had Steve there. Steve Cavino as 449 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: like some comic relief and he's a very funny guy. 450 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: And every joke, this guy did not laugh at anything. 451 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: And I remember on their show Covino Rich they would 452 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: play clips of it and he was like just the 453 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: awkwardness of this is so hilarious. Like I remember they 454 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: got into a conversation about gin Gino Mastia for guys 455 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: who use steroids and you know, as they say, bitched 456 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: hits and uh and and Covino is like, so if 457 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: I go up to a hot chicken, I say, like, 458 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: there's some nice kind of comasity on you. And and 459 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: like this guy did not laugh at all. So it 460 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: just it sounds like that type of story. It's funny, 461 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: just I mean, no sense of humor, no social skills. 462 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: He just you know, he you know, is super rich 463 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: and as nobody really talked to him as I was 464 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: talking about everybody you know, kisses his ass, and so 465 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: it's like, listen, I struck out. I probably shouldn't have 466 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: done that. M able to open the umbrella, did you Yeah, exactly. 467 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: And so I mean, you know, there's other times where 468 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, I've I've taken a risk and it's paid 469 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: off really well. And give another example that I was 470 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: traveling with this other client. You can go everywhere, and 471 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: he did a lot of secret squirrel ship, and so 472 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: we would go to different countries in the world and say, hey, 473 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, um um, he's got to change your phone out. 474 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: You know, you know they're they're tracking everything that you 475 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: do on the phone and your information isn't secure and whatnot. 476 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: And he kept saying that, and it was just like 477 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 1: we're on the road for six weeks. I'm tired, you know. 478 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: Then finally I'm like, sir, if they're so interested in 479 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: seeing dick picks, and I said to my wife, and 480 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: they're more than welcome, And they kind of looked at 481 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: me and goes, oh shit, I never thought of that. 482 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: And it's like kind of laughed and we had like 483 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: this cool like little bond, right and then and then 484 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: we traveled the world and we worked together for many years, 485 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: and but it was just you know, you gotta be 486 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: real with people, and it's like you've got to be authentic. 487 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: And I think that that's important and most often, I 488 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: mean I've had a successful career, so I think I 489 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: know when and when not to do some of that stuff. 490 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: But certainly i've I've sucked up and like that. I've 491 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: outlined that, you know with the previous story. Um, but 492 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: I think it's important to be authentic and to show 493 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: your real self, especially with clients because you have to 494 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: think about it, everybody around them want something from I'm 495 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: just trying to uh, you know, you know, run game 496 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: on them, trying to pimp them in some way, and 497 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, I'm not there to help. Um. 498 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: But I'm also know you know when the shut up 499 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: as well. I mean, you don't want to be the 500 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: chatty Cathy either. When the clarent goes, hey, how was 501 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: your day? And oh great, and my sister's getting married 502 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: and you know I'm buying a house and well I 503 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: don't give a funk about any of that. I just 504 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: asked how your day was. So understanding, you know, when 505 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: to open up and when not to. And I've been 506 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: in car rides, long car rides with principles and they 507 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: want silence and you don't exchange a word for five hours. 508 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: That's tough. You know. We're like, I'm about to fall 509 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: asleep here, I think, So go ahead, Jared, No, So 510 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: I was I was just saying. So, I mean, it's 511 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's different, and it's a challenge. And I mean, 512 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: you work with so many different types of people. Everybody 513 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: is different, everybody has a different preference. So how do 514 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: I kind of measure my personality and the way that 515 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: I do things to blood in with them? You know, 516 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: I noticed with the former Special Operations guys who go 517 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: into this line of work, like some of them understand 518 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: what what you just said. They take to it and 519 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: they understand the context that they're working in. And then 520 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: the other guys who think they're still driving down fucking 521 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: route Tampa and Missle and it's like, you guys, you 522 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: don't understand where you're at. Um, And so soft guys actually, um, 523 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: they're not always cut out for for this kind of work. 524 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, in my opinion, I don't know what you 525 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah, I would agree. I think that 526 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: it's too much of the yes or yes ma'am type ship, 527 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: and people do want to feel like a prisoner in 528 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: their own home, right. Uh, it's awkward having security, you know, 529 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: think about it. I mean, I've spent time with clients 530 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: more than I spend time with my own wife and kid, 531 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: you know, just because you're there with every waking hour, 532 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: and you travel and they go to the bathroom and 533 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: they meet the president or they're doing whatever you're you're 534 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: with them, and so it's like, you've gotta you gotta 535 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: figure out the art of not being annoying and not 536 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: having your personality, you know, grade against theirs. I don't 537 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: care who you are. You spend enough time and you 538 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: can be the most charming dick head and on the planet. 539 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: But U you know, there's many times where you're just 540 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: gonna annoy somebody annoying that the principle and the principle 541 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: is going to get annoyed with you. And I think 542 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: that that that certainly is is true. Where you know, 543 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: people that really have that awesome, refined hard skill, you know, 544 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: they can't they can't mold that and shape it into 545 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: what the principal wants. I mean a better example, you know, 546 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: working with one of the most beautiful women in the world, 547 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: working in Los Angeles, and you've got to kind of 548 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: a dress the part man. You know, if she's seemed 549 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: to be the most you know, um, you know, beautiful 550 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: and stylish women on the planet, go go buy some 551 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: fucking designer jeans, get some nice shoes, get you know, 552 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: get some nice clothing. You can't be there where you're 553 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: you're understanding where some fucking wranglers on your ranch in Texas. 554 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: But you know you can't do that in l A. 555 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: And so you'll see the guy that I'm not gonna 556 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: this is how I dress. Well, don't be surprised when 557 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: the boscas, you know, she says, I don't Johnny around 558 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: anymore because Johnny doesn't get it, you know, with your 559 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: your ugly ass Oakley tactical glasses, you know what I mean. 560 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: So when you're like working for a rapper, do you 561 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: wear Foo boo and fat farm? I mean, it's just that, 562 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: just yeah, But I mean it's certainly it's my speech pattern, 563 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: and it's maybe a little bit different than what it 564 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: is when you're working with you know, corporate whiting. You know, um, 565 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: and it's just like h and it's come comes a 566 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: little bit easy for me because I love hip hop 567 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: music and um, and I can relate and it's more 568 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: relaxed and you know, I'm certainly not putting on the 569 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: front in any ways, but it's just being more of 570 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: how I would normally be with my best friends, you know, 571 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: shooting the ship and not not the yes or nose 572 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: or stuff, right, I would think, and Jack kind of 573 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: alluded to this earlier in the interview. I bet there's 574 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: some soft guys who would be perfect for the job, 575 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: but they're the type of guys who you know, get 576 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: on steroids, get huge, get tatted up on the neck, face, 577 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: and I would think for like these jobs that you 578 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: have just off image alone, they're like, we don't want 579 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: this guy. Yeah, I mean that's a tough thing. I mean, 580 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: we work in an industry where it's like you can 581 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: wear the wrong shoes on the wrong day and you're out. 582 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: And I mean there's a lot of um, there's a 583 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: lot of folks that you know, have tattoos and have 584 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: the big look or whatever, but they can you know, 585 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: dress it down a little bit or you know, certain 586 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: times love that you know in certain clients don't and 587 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: just knowing what it is and who it is you're 588 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: working for, right um. But I think that just again 589 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: understanding your audience. You know, who are you, who are 590 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: you catering to, and what is the job right are Uh. 591 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: I did a little bit of work at one point, 592 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: um for a client and they had another person who 593 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: worked for them previously, was a former ranger and I 594 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: never met him, but I told you he's a really 595 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: nice guy, really good at what he did. But he 596 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: full sleeve tattoos. And the client is you know, elderly 597 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: and they're old school and they associate tattoos with like 598 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: motorcycle gangs and stuff like that, so they'd wear a 599 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: long sleeve t shirt when even in the summer. Yeah, 600 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's crazy. I worked with a company 601 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: too that you can never show tattoos. So I mean 602 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: there are guys that would be you know, tatted up, 603 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, all the way. And then we were on 604 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: the boat in the Caribbean. It's like, why then are 605 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: you wearing long long sleeve like well, you know, we 606 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: have a no tattoo policy, you know. So it's just 607 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: it's crazy, It's it's interesting right, this industry. I love 608 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: it so much because the things that you're exposed to 609 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: and the things that you can see, not many people 610 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: see an experience in the world, you know. So the 611 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 1: book and it spoils you. Um. The book is Public Figures, 612 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: Private Lives, co authored with three other guys from similar background. 613 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: I was wondering how you got hooked up with them 614 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: and made the book happen. Yeah, absolutely so. UM Christian 615 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: West my my dear friend, and Brian Jansen, my other 616 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: dear friend. I wrote a first book which was kind 617 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: of covering corporate executive protection, and they put that out 618 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: at as Solution, the company that I do work for 619 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: and did work for previously. UM. And so they wanted 620 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 1: to do part two to that, and so they brought 621 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: on myself apart two covering you know, uh, public figures 622 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: and private family offices. So they brought in myself and 623 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: Ivor Arrets and we all worked together at a Solution 624 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: M and so we we crafted the book and kind 625 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: of whiteboarded everything out and did chapters and and uh 626 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: and wrote it together. It was a fun project and 627 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: took about two and a half years to do. It's 628 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: getting it's getting great. Feedback, as I mentioned on Amazon, 629 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: and I think if someone's interested in the subject, this 630 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: is a great book to eat on it. Um. I 631 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,479 Speaker 1: was wondering out of curiosity actually over the last few days, 632 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: being home during Christmas and all that. UM. I was 633 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: actually just scanning through Netflix, and I don't know if 634 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: you came across this documentary. I didn't watch the whole thing, 635 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: watch some of it, but it's called Bodyguards, Secret Lives 636 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: from the watch Tower, and it has like the guy 637 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: who guarded fifty cent um, just a lot of big 638 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: name guys, like the main guy took a bullet on 639 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: a job with fifty sent ship. Yeah, and after that 640 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: he became like well respected and it's a it's an 641 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: interesting it was interesting from what I saw. It's definitely 642 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: a little bit um advertising. I think these particular guys 643 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: and how great they are. But I was just curious 644 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: of you if you saw it. Yeah, I have seen it. 645 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: I've seen that before, and I think I've met the 646 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: individual who who's been shot. He was at I think 647 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: a conference I just went to. But yeah, I mean 648 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of um, there's a lot of facets 649 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: of this industry and uh, UM, I think it's kind 650 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: of kind of awesome. You got shot and I've never 651 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: been before. But I mean everybody's gonna claim to fame, right, Yeah. 652 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: I was watching it. It was interesting to hear because 653 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: they had DJ who kid on there, who I actually know, 654 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: and he was talking about He was like, you know, 655 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: fifty cent as a history with violence. I mean, the 656 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: guy has been shot himself, so to him it's almost 657 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: like this is cool. But he was like, also on 658 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: that tour was Missy Elliot and he's like, you know, 659 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: Missy Elliott is not into this, you know, gang life 660 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: for violence, and you know, he was like, we're lucky 661 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: to have people like that who are willing to, you know, 662 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: put their lives on the line for the client. Sure, 663 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: And I think it's it's also too it depends on 664 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, you can say that you have you know, 665 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: you come from that background or you know that gang 666 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: mentality or gang lifestyle. But I mean, if you do 667 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: it right and the principles on board, um, you can 668 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: really mitigate risk in a way where they're not deal 669 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: with that kind of ship. And it's different if they 670 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 1: want to floss and have the big entourages and do 671 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: all the public entrances and all of that, which makes 672 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: it difficult. But I mean there's other clients and principles 673 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: that have been about that life that aren't about that 674 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: life anymore, and you don't hear about them getting shot 675 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: at or or do anything like that anymore because they understand, Hey, 676 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that anymore. And and but 677 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: do um it's to ep the right way, not saying 678 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: that those guys do it in the wrong way in 679 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 1: any means, but it's just you know, listening to people 680 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: that are helping you with the experts and doing Okay, 681 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: how do we do this in a way that is 682 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: going to prevent any any kind of bad things from happening, 683 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 1: and then just kind of changing your lifestyle right having 684 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: the right people around you. Yeah, it was interesting because 685 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: it showed the difference between for this guy, like guarding 686 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: a fifty cent and then guarding a Justin Bieber. And 687 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: it was interestingering Justin Bieber to say how like originally 688 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: when he was first becoming popular, He's like, I just 689 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: had this guy who was, you know, friend of mine, 690 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: was a big guy, do see security for me? And 691 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: at a certain point I was like, all right, I 692 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: didn't need to step this up and have someone more 693 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: professional as like threats against him were uh, you know 694 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: being made in that type of thing, and it was 695 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: it was interesting hearing the bodyguards say, he's like as 696 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: silly as it sounds, you know, having like fifty girls 697 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: grab it. This guy could be pretty scary and you 698 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: know he can feel that his life is in danger. Yeah, 699 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: it is scary, especially when we have big crowds and 700 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: and people that will do anything to get close to 701 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: your principle, regardless of if they quote unquote love with 702 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: your principle or whatnot. It's it's uh, it's it's strange, 703 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: strange experience, you know. And you know working with clients 704 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: and kind of you know, ride with clients and the 705 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: trunk of a car to to get them, um sneak 706 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: them out of town, that kind of thing. You've used 707 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: different decoys and my motorcycle and uh, you know, you know, 708 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: putting wigs on and all kinds of things to kind 709 00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: of distract paparazzi from from following. You know, do you 710 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: ever get like the crazy like obsessed schizophrenic types, you know, 711 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: sent them in the mail with a newspaper letters all 712 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: cut and taped up on the stuff. Yes, yes, I 713 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: used to. We see received some crazy things where one 714 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: of our clients who received ship in the mail, like 715 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: this guy just you know, would would send his own 716 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: ship in the mail every single day to the car 717 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: and you had letters stack to the ceiling or people 718 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: that would would dig up graves, you know, you know, 719 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: crazy crazy things. Um, all kinds of nasty, horrible letters, 720 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: like the worst stuff that you have ever seen. I've 721 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: seen that and dealt with that. So it is scary. 722 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: It is scary. Uh. And then and what's interesting too 723 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: in this industry is is kind of you're a representation 724 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: of what your principle is. So if your principle kind 725 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: of has like this good reputation and people love them, 726 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: the people that love you. But if you're working with 727 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: a principle that you know, say it's been accused of 728 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: rape and it's going to trial for rape, you know, 729 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: then you receive all that backlash that they received would 730 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: spit my phase. People throw things at me, called me 731 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: a rapist, and I'm just working with the guy and 732 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with that, you know. So 733 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: that can be that can be difficult and a challenge, 734 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: right watching the primaries What was pretty crazy to me 735 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,479 Speaker 1: was seeing Donald Trump, you know, before he was President Trump, 736 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: so he's not with the Secret Service at that time, 737 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: and you know, he was doing these campaign rallies. I 738 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: remember just watching on the news in states and especially 739 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: in like border towns where there was these like math, 740 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: there were these massive protests against Trump, uh, just like 741 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: surrounding the buildings he was in and and it just 742 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: made me think, like, how is how does he get 743 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: around this? It was insane to watch, Yeah, especially during 744 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: those kind of like you said, the primaries and all 745 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: of it. I mean, it's it's such a such a 746 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: hotbed topic and you're you know, I mean he was 747 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: more more news media than anybody in the world at 748 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,320 Speaker 1: the time, you know, with that, and it is it 749 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 1: is crazy when you know, you're you're dealing with these 750 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: protests and you know, I had a client where he's 751 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: just he's hated UM and and we are we're away 752 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: and he gets the news that somebody, uh had a 753 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: dump truck, dumb dump truck and they came by his 754 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: house and dumped like a whole dump truck full of 755 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: ship on his driveway and they were throwing it all 756 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: over his house. It's like, you know, he looks at 757 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: that and it's like, is this normal? Like what We're 758 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: going to this event New York and people hate him, 759 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: and he's like, is everything gonna be okay? Yes, sir, 760 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: Everything's gonna be fine. And you're thinking, oh shit, I 761 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: hope the team has everything together because people really don't 762 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: like this guy. You know. Have you ever had any 763 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: like really close calls like that, like the like the 764 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: one guy getting shot where You're like, something's really going 765 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: to go sideways this time. I've had people will put 766 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: hands on the clients or try to do that, and 767 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: I've had to put some people down on the ground. 768 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: Um you know, working in the Middle East, we've we've 769 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: had to you know, um ram cars and get in 770 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: the way of our convoy. But I haven't had to 771 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: and then had to draw my firearm in this industry, 772 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: and I haven't been shot. I had a lot of 773 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: action when I was bartending. I got mace in the 774 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: face and to the bottle um, you know, but but nothing, 775 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 1: nothing in the executive protection industry other than people trying 776 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: to get hands or people trying to jump, you know, 777 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,919 Speaker 1: at the client had to put them down on the ground. 778 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: Is gently as possible. Well, I guess that's a sign 779 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: that you that's a sign that you're doing your job 780 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: right though, I take it that you don't have you've 781 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: never had to draw your weapon. Yeah, I mean I 782 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: think so, you know, you know, making that determination. You know, hey, 783 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty sketchy. We need to get the hell out 784 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: of here, versus you know, you know, you gotta you 785 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: gotta understand if there's a problem, your first responsibility as 786 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: a principle. So I'm grabbing that principle. I'm shoving them 787 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: in the car and we're out of there. Right. You 788 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: planning and taking it, yeah, yeah, taking a defensive position 789 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: and hunkering down or whatever, and trying to engage a threat. 790 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: You're trying to see those things happen before they occur. Right. 791 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: Whenever I look back on that old footage of either 792 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: Kennedy being shot or um, you know and killed or 793 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: Reagan being shot, uh, one of the first reactions that 794 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 1: that I feel. And I think a lot of people 795 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: when they see that type of thing today, they're like, 796 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: that would never happen today. Whether that's true or not. 797 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't seen anything since you know, that 798 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: attempt on Reagan on a president. I'm just wondering, what 799 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: do you think is like the biggest evolution in private 800 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: security that's that's changed so that we haven't had those 801 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: type of threats before. I mean, we had George Bush. 802 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: You don't get a shoe thrown at him and that 803 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: type of thing. But you know, no one's taken a 804 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: shot at a at a president since the eighties. Yeah, 805 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: I think, well, you know a lot of times. I 806 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: mean I think there's things that have happened that just 807 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: aren't you know, um uh in the media as well. 808 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: But I mean any time that you see the president 809 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: that going and you know, shaking hands are going through 810 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: an event, I mean, those are all vetting people for 811 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: the most part, that are coming in. So there's a 812 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: lot of white space that's created between the actual public 813 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: and you know, the president. So there's a lot of 814 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of prep that goes into that that 815 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: didn't happen before. You know, if you take like the 816 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: Hinckley UM case and all of that with Reagan, UM 817 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: and so you know, every with social media monitoring and 818 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: all those things happen so much faster now, so intelligence 819 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: gathering happens quickly. Um and you know, we have a 820 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: history of of seeing what has occurred before, so you know, 821 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: you can learn, Um, you can learn from the past, 822 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: and I think that there's been a lot of effort 823 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: put in into making sure that doesn't happen. And you know, 824 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: our brothers and sisters in the Secret Service work really 825 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: hard to make sure nothing happens, right. Absolutely, Um, So 826 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 1: last thing, unless you have anything, Jack, I was wondering 827 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: where can people find you online? I was looking. You know, 828 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: you're not like a big social media guy from what 829 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: I say. I mean, I'm on LinkedIn about I think 830 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: eighteen thousand LinkedIn followers, So, um, I do a lot 831 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: of blogs and and whatnot on LinkedIn, but I'm certainly 832 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: not doing Snapchat or anything like that. Everything else is 833 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: uh is pretty much unlocked for family. But yeah, I'm 834 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: on LinkedIn and I used that for kind of my 835 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: uh my networking and social networking platform. And obviously all 836 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: my Facebook stuff is pretty much family and friends and 837 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So cool. This has been really interesting, Jared. Yeah, 838 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad to talk with you guys, and I'm super 839 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 1: passionate about executive protection and we do some interesting work. Absolutely. Yeah, 840 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 1: I'm always I'm always entertained to hear some of the 841 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: like behind the scenes stories about this stuff. Yeah, I 842 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: can tell you I've got another front of story if 843 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: you wants sure. I mean, I love people are going 844 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: to love these stories. I think the you know, bulldoze 845 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 1: shut of crap on the guys drying. I mean, I've 846 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: never heard of this type of things. That's awesome. Um. So, 847 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: I grew up in Alaska. I know how to see 848 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: a pretty good, uh, pretty good skier. And I was 849 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: taking a trip with a client and her son to 850 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: ask en and again I'm trying to you know, build 851 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: rapport with the principle. And you know, I say to 852 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: the I said that the kid, I think he was 853 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: about nine or ten. I said to him, you know, hey, 854 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna teach me how to ski, you know. And 855 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: he's kind of laughing, and yeah, I'm gonna teach you 856 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: how to ski or whatever. We go and and these 857 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 1: principles are skiing in a way that I don't ski. 858 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 1: You know, They're carving so much and going so slow. 859 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: And typically when I ski bombed down the hill, carve 860 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: a couple of times and and go, well, I'm working 861 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: with my partner and all of a sudden, my pigeon 862 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: pie catches up and I crossed my skis and I 863 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 1: dolphin died and then the side of the mountain and 864 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: I bust my nose pretty hard. I mean, I'm just 865 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: spitting blood under the white snow. And I hit my 866 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: partner up on the radio and said, I'll catch you 867 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,120 Speaker 1: guys on the next run. I grabbed some snow, I 868 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, wipe my face off, and I 869 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: think everything's fine, and the principles, you know, come down 870 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: and the wife looks at me and goes, oh my god, 871 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,760 Speaker 1: what happened to your face? And I take my camera 872 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: and I'm, you know, on my phone, and I looked 873 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: at my face. I had sucking ice burn, my nose 874 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: was huge. Um, I looked like I got beat up. 875 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: And she basically was so worried about me that I 876 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: ruined her vacation. She told everybody, um, that I ruined 877 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: her vacation because she was, you know, thinking I was hurt. 878 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: And then they lost complete confidence in my ability to 879 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 1: ski and to protect them. And I'm like, man, if 880 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 1: I if I would have just not said that I 881 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: was a bad skier making that joke, and then I 882 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: would have been would have been fine. Um, And it 883 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: didn't matter what I did after that she was I 884 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: was like her her second son, are you okay, Jared? 885 00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: It's everything all right. So it wasn't a James Bond moment. No, 886 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't a James Bond moment. Was like, I fucked 887 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: that moment right, um and uh. And then the detail 888 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 1: leader when when when she went back to l A, 889 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: m It was super nice to me come back to 890 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: l A. Yeah, Jared ruined my whole Christmas vacation. And 891 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: so but I've got tons of those, you know, funny stories. 892 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: And again I like to put out all the ways 893 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: that we've screwed up because I think it's more entertaining 894 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: and it's more honest and about how I saved the 895 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: day and how I'm so awesome. I mean, you definitely 896 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 1: have to have fixed skin for the job. It sounds 897 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: for sure. Oh you do all the time. And you know, 898 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: principles will uh sense any sort of weakness and make 899 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: fun of you and and and test you. And so 900 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: sometimes you pass the test and sometimes you don't. This 901 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: has been eye opening, man, and I hope a lot 902 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 1: of people listening pick up the book once again. It's 903 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: Public Figures, Private Lives. It's been great and also I'm 904 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: sure he's listening. Thanks to Nick Betts for hooking it 905 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: up because this has been a great interview. Yes, thank 906 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: you Nick. Yeah, thank you, guys. I appreciate thanks for 907 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,479 Speaker 1: taking an hour out of your day in the middle 908 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: of the holidays. Appreciate it. Alright, take care, guys, have 909 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: a great New year. Yeah, you too. Really enjoyed having 910 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: Jared on. Uh. 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Patrick 954 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: Shanahan now acting Secretary of Defense. We'll see who gets 955 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: the position permanently, even though nothing seems permanent in the 956 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: Trump administration. Well, we talked already, I think about our 957 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: withdrawal from Syria, and you know, Maddest giving a letter 958 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: of resignation is um is partly it's because of that, 959 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 1: and he just sees a different vision I guess than 960 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: Donald Trump does. UM. So you know he was I 961 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: mean you read that letter. I mean it was professional 962 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: and politely worded, but he is uh, he was not 963 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 1: happy with the decision. Yeah. Well, and and also Trump 964 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,399 Speaker 1: got at first was very professional, and then I think 965 00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: he Maddis is retiring, and then like two seconds later, Yeah, 966 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: I gave this guy a second change after Obama. Basically 967 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: I threw this guy a bone. Yeah, I think you 968 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: know you guys at the site, uh you um even 969 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,320 Speaker 1: though he's not currently writing, but um Bill from Greece, 970 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: I was tweeting about it early on. We're saying that 971 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 1: Mattis was out before a lot of people. Yeah. Well, 972 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean the writing was on the wall for a 973 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,879 Speaker 1: long time. I think, oh yeah. But there were people 974 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 1: we had on the podcast that we mentioned this. They're like, 975 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,600 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't hear anything about Mattis possibly being out. 976 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it became more and more clear 977 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: that the biggest sign for me, even though this might 978 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: be something stupid, but it just it seemed like an 979 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: odd comment was when Trump went on sixty minutes and 980 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: said Mattis is kind of a Democrat. It was a 981 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: really weird comment. It was a very weird comment, and 982 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 1: that was because Maddis would push back on the things 983 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 1: that Trump wanted to do and be like, well, sir, 984 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 1: that's not really a great idea. It also didn't make 985 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 1: any logical sense. I mean, the guy's the most a 986 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 1: political I think of anyone in the administration. Never got 987 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 1: uh into the political discussions when he when they tried to, 988 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: uh basically get him, you know, involved in it. I mean, 989 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: it's you're dealing with a you know, a president who 990 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 1: has a huge ego and very thin skin. I mean. 991 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,479 Speaker 1: And Mantis is also apparently not affiliated with any party. 992 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: I believe he's independent, and I think that came out. Yeah, 993 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 1: I mean, it is what it is. I guess, yeah, 994 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: he was. I mean he was in a lot of 995 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: ways the last man standing. I mean obviously of Mike Pence, 996 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,879 Speaker 1: but very few guys left that came into the administration 997 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,840 Speaker 1: at the beginning that are still there. Different, Press secretary, different. 998 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at you know, Trump's style 999 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: and how he does things, he basically uses people to 1000 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: drum up controversy and drum up press around himself, and 1001 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 1: then he discards them once he's not he doesn't have 1002 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: a use for them anymore. Zink is out too, and 1003 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,800 Speaker 1: maybe we'll get him on now that he's out in 1004 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 1: the new year. I doubt it. We had him on 1005 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: very soon before he was in, So we'll see Uh, 1006 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, i'd be interested in that. Mon Zike. He 1007 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: has always been a very you know, a friendly guy 1008 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: when I see him in person, and uh signed his 1009 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 1: book to me. But yeah, he'll no longer be in 1010 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,720 Speaker 1: the administration. A lot of guys that that this audience 1011 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,439 Speaker 1: liked are are no longer there. So yeah, the next 1012 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,839 Speaker 1: the next two years, you know that the tail end 1013 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,720 Speaker 1: of of the first term are going to be interesting. 1014 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: And it seems like Trump is increasingly isolated, uh, boxed 1015 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 1: in you could say, Republicans no longer have control of 1016 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,319 Speaker 1: the House, so he's going to be more limited there. Um, 1017 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: I think you'll see him lash out more often, more 1018 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 1: than already. Yeah. And and the scary thing for me 1019 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: for from a policy standpoint, what I see is I 1020 00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:01,280 Speaker 1: worry that Trump won't order us into war with Iran 1021 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 1: because he wants to make himself appear legitimate. Um, that 1022 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: people like John Bolton will go to him and say, look, 1023 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: if you invade Iran, it will make you look tough, 1024 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: and then here we go. But the fact that he's 1025 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: withdrawing from Syria and all that, that seems like the 1026 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: type of thing Bolton wouldn't uh know. Yeah, you're wouldn't sponsor. 1027 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 1: And it seems like Trump is just making decisions on 1028 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 1: his own. And I agree, and that's why these guys 1029 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,400 Speaker 1: who are libertarian leaning, I mean technically Republicans, but I 1030 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 1: see like Rand Paul on Twitter is praising Trump for 1031 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: what he sees as like a more non intervention and 1032 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 1: drawing down, cutting the amount of troops we have in 1033 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: Afghanistan down by half. Um. So, yes, pulling out of 1034 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 1: Syria is detrimental to Iran, but are doing Iran if 1035 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 1: that's the way we want to go. But at the 1036 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: same time, you can see this as us clearing the 1037 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 1: deck for Iran. So we're bringing troops home, We're disengaging 1038 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: from some of these other fights so that we have 1039 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: more resources to go and fight the bigger fight. But 1040 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: that's that's speculative. I'm not saying that's the fact that 1041 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 1: that that's what's being done. All right, Well, we will 1042 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: see as approaches. I mean. The piece of good news 1043 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 1: actually was yesterday how um And it's funny, I was 1044 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: just talking about the news our financial report. The market 1045 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 1: saw the largest increase in a day and its history. 1046 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,280 Speaker 1: How many points I'd have to look it up again. Uh, 1047 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 1: it was I mean, I don't really care about the 1048 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: stock market. That's just that's like a plaything for rinch 1049 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 1: people who have money to throw away. I don't think 1050 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 1: like normal people have anything to do with the stock market. 1051 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: But more than a thousand points, which is the largest 1052 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: in history, more than a thousand eighty six points. That's 1053 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: actually the most inter saccurate from CNN right there. Um, 1054 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 1: So it's weird. Within a matter of months we saw 1055 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 1: the largest fall in a day in the stock market 1056 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: and the largest increase in one day volatility. Everything I 1057 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: have currently as precious metals, um, I've only I'll be honest, 1058 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 1: I only have invested one time in the stock market. Off, 1059 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 1: I won't say where. Off not a tip, but like, 1060 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, a suggestion from actually Andrew Wilkew. He was like, 1061 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 1: this is this is gonna be a great investment. And 1062 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: then the it got split into eighths. So my pretty 1063 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 1: small investment became an eighth of what it was worth 1064 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 1: and it was pretty much close to nothing. So actually 1065 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: this year I just took the money back and put 1066 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 1: it in my bank account. So thanks Andrew. But I 1067 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 1: can't blame him because his reasoning was good. But it's 1068 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: just it's hard to predict how where things are good. 1069 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean after two thousand and eight, that was the 1070 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 1: conclusion I came to by like two thousand and ten, 1071 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 1: I pulled my money out and I had broken even, 1072 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: so I didn't lose money. I took my money out 1073 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: of the four oh one case and uh invested in 1074 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: a bullion. Yeah, and that's where that's where it's sitting 1075 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 1: to the stay and it's not that bow at all. No, um, 1076 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 1: I mean, but on the same token, I was actually 1077 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: just talking to me about the So I have friends, Um, 1078 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean, one of them is is very well known, 1079 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: but Alex Waters, who is involved in bitcoin very early on. 1080 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 1: And these people are telling you invest in bitcoin when 1081 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,400 Speaker 1: it was under a dollar and you would have been 1082 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: stupid not to if you had a crystal ball. So yeah, well, 1083 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean if you invested when I was at a dollar, 1084 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you're still sitting pretty Yeah, it's insane. So 1085 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's the same thing. I mean, it's 1086 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 1: it's hard to make a bland generalization of the stock 1087 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 1: market because there is gonna be another Amazon dot Com, 1088 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: There's gonna be another Microsoft where. But it's like you 1089 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: have to have that kind of discretionary income. I personally, 1090 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 1: I don't see it as like a long term investment 1091 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 1: for your retirement, Like you're not making millions right now. 1092 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't think you can count on it to do 1093 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: that anymore. Yeah, you know that works for like baby boomers, um, 1094 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,480 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it's it's because it it truly is 1095 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: more of a a casino now it used to be. 1096 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean just the house always wins. Yeah. As as 1097 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, as we were saying, the biggest op in 1098 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: one day, the biggest increase in one day, all within 1099 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: I believe a month. Yeah, And I mean everyone's predicting 1100 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,919 Speaker 1: that the next economic crash, the next bubble is coming 1101 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 1: within the next you know, twenty to twenty four months. 1102 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure it will. And actually, as Brandon has said, 1103 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 1: and Brandon's talked about this on his podcast The Power, 1104 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, not necessarily a bad thing if 1105 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: you could figure out where to invest your money. People 1106 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 1: do make a lot of money during these crashes. Well, 1107 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a bad thing when the when the 1108 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: people lose their time of people, but it doesn't have 1109 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 1: to be a bad thing for you individually. If you 1110 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 1: could figure out where, if you could buy property at 1111 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 1: the right time. If you could buy you know, yeah, yeah, 1112 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 1: you buy when it's cheap. It makes some make some 1113 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,040 Speaker 1: shrewd investments. Yeah. I don't mean for the country. I 1114 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: just mean for individuals. If you want to figure out 1115 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: a way to make money during a market crash or 1116 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: during a recession, there is a way. Yeah, it's possible. 1117 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's what we were saying. What I was 1118 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 1: trying to bring up during our strategy meeting about the 1119 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: crate club stuff. I was like, you guys should have 1120 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 1: a plan in place for like the fruze, dried food 1121 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 1: and all the prepper stuff because this when the market crashes, 1122 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 1: people are they just grabbed that stuff up were in 1123 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, like that stuff was huge. Everyone 1124 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 1: was becoming like like like stay at home moms were 1125 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: becoming what we would have called survivalists in the they 1126 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 1: were preppers. What about the market for underground bunkers, you know, 1127 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: in in these remote locations, there's a lot of high 1128 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 1: networth individuals, you know, buying property underground. I should have 1129 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 1: gotten into that with Jared when we had them on. 1130 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 1: But like, if you've ever like wealthy people are totally 1131 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 1: obsessed with that kind of ship, like the zombie apocalypse 1132 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 1: type stuff. I think it's like when you when you 1133 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: become rich, you have this like perpetual fear that you're 1134 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 1: gonna lose everything. So I like a lot of hedge 1135 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,360 Speaker 1: fund burrows and stuff like that. They're into that survivalism 1136 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: prepper type stuff, and I get it. They have a 1137 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,640 Speaker 1: lot to lose. So they have the bunker out in 1138 01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest filled with guns, and you know, after 1139 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 1: civilization collapses, they're going to be the last man standing 1140 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 1: with their their private armory and uh, they're going to 1141 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: repopulate the world by impregnating all the women that are 1142 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 1: you know. It's like, yeah, it's at John McAfee ye. So, um, 1143 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 1: last thing I want to get into here. Uh, this 1144 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 1: was an excellent email. I I really liked this so 1145 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: uh this is from Brian. I really I just felt 1146 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 1: like this, this makes it worthwhile what we do. Uh. 1147 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 1: Keeping it as brief as possible. New to the podcast, 1148 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,040 Speaker 1: but I've already listened to almost every episode. As a civilian, 1149 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: I've always respected the military for its discipline and focus. 1150 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 1: My grandfather served as a tech sergeant in the U. S. 1151 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Army in World War two, and he beat that discipline 1152 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 1: into me as a child, most times with a smack 1153 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 1: to the pack of the head with his army ring 1154 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 1: turned palm side in. As an adult, I have had 1155 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 1: a career as a music educator. I mean that's totally 1156 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,200 Speaker 1: different than what you think high school band or actor 1157 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,040 Speaker 1: and a Drum and Bugle Corps member and teacher. I 1158 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,920 Speaker 1: currently own a restaurant, and I found episode four oh 1159 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 1: nine incredibly comforting. I'm in my first year of ownership, 1160 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 1: going through the expected struggles as it is a real 1161 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: as it is reassuring hearing Mr Emerson talk about what 1162 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: it takes to be successful. You do whatever it takes. 1163 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 1: I work seven days a week, ninety plus hours on site. 1164 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 1: I lived ten miles from my store, my Superaru blue 1165 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 1: and engine. I ride my mountain bike to work when 1166 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: I have to, three to five times a week. I'm 1167 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 1: doing everything in my power to get into Black as 1168 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 1: fast as I can. Clint's episode is my go to 1169 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 1: when I get frustrated and want to say fuck it. 1170 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 1: Keep up the great work. You don't realize how motivational 1171 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: you guys really are. I love the back and forth 1172 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: with Ian and Jack. Thank you you guys are putting 1173 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 1: out incredible content. Thank you, And that is from Brian, 1174 01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 1: and that's just awesome to hear. Man, I don't know 1175 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 1: if I should plug his business or not. I'm you know, 1176 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if he wants me. Yeah why not? Yeah? 1177 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 1: So it's uh, I guess to pronounced Jocko's j A 1178 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 1: c Os, Tacos fast and fresh in flow Wood, Uh Mississippi, right, 1179 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 1: M Yeah, I feel looking into him like ms Mississippi. 1180 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,080 Speaker 1: So yeah. I mean, if you're around the area and 1181 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 1: want to meet with a fellow listener of the podcast, 1182 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,600 Speaker 1: check that place out. If I was around the area, 1183 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 1: certainly would. But thank you so much, Brian. That's that's 1184 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 1: awesome to hear. And I thought what Clint said was 1185 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 1: really motivational as well. And um, you know, I I 1186 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 1: remember you felt the same way. A lot of what 1187 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 1: he said was valuable about that you don't, you know, 1188 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 1: put all your eggs in one vest and with one company. 1189 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 1: And that's why he's got a clothing line, he's got 1190 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: these books going on, and uh he also has a 1191 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,480 Speaker 1: security company. I think that's uh, that's just like the 1192 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,240 Speaker 1: modern economy for those of us who are not you know, 1193 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 1: if you're an engineer or a doctor or something like that, 1194 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,880 Speaker 1: you're in it this very uh professionalized career field. Um. 1195 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 1: And there's that kind of like upward mobility. UM. But 1196 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 1: I think for the rest of us uh slobs, you 1197 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 1: have to um diversify. You know, it's not you can't 1198 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 1: just be good at one thing. And like I hear 1199 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 1: people talk about like taxi drivers and uber and stuff 1200 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,560 Speaker 1: like that. It's like, dude, if your skill in life 1201 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 1: is driving a car, like you're you're set up for 1202 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 1: failure unless to be fair, unless you are a you know, 1203 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: over the road truck driver. A lot of those guys 1204 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 1: do very well or independently operation. Now that's true, um, 1205 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: And but that's probably gonna go away to eventually when 1206 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 1: when when it becomes automated and you have drones you know. 1207 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 1: But I mean you're still gonna there's still gonna be 1208 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 1: people shipping in you know. There's for example, it's funny 1209 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 1: because I'm looking at Bub's naturals across from US. The 1210 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 1: supplement industry is mainly based out of Utah. You know, 1211 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: someone's gonna have to bring those supplements from Utah to 1212 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,920 Speaker 1: every other state. And I don't think a drone is 1213 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 1: going to bring you know, uh, a package of supplements 1214 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 1: or box of supplements from Utah all the way to 1215 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: New York. I mean, I still think you're gonna have 1216 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 1: that need. Well, there's gonna be human beings involved in 1217 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,360 Speaker 1: it somewhere along the line, of course. But like the 1218 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 1: long haul truckers, I mean, I don't think there's in 1219 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 1: my opinion, I don't think there's longevity there over you know, 1220 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,720 Speaker 1: it's not immediately, but within the next you know, two decades, 1221 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 1: three decades, I think a lot of that's going to 1222 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,480 Speaker 1: be replaced by that's still that's still pretty good though. 1223 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a forty year old truck trucker, 1224 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 1: you have a lifetime career. I would say, oh yeah, well, 1225 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 1: those guys, I mean, look, I'm not I'm not trying 1226 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 1: to put down any truckers out there. I mean those 1227 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 1: guys are, you know, the lifeblood of America in like 1228 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: a very real way, Like logistics is super important, all right, 1229 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 1: like a table that we're on, right, we have this 1230 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 1: glass table in front of us, right. I don't think 1231 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 1: a drone. I mean, I don't know when it would 1232 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,440 Speaker 1: happen that a drone is going to be able to 1233 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,960 Speaker 1: deliver thousands of these to another state. But a drone 1234 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 1: can operate the boat that takes it from China to 1235 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 1: the United States. A drone can operate the big truck 1236 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 1: that drives it from say Los Angeles to New York. UM. 1237 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,760 Speaker 1: But then in between there's gonna be spaces where there's 1238 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a person in it. Been like taking it 1239 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 1: off the truck and bringing it into our office, or 1240 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 1: or taking it and putting it on display in a 1241 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 1: store or something like that. Yeah, I I could be wrong. 1242 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: I think the timeline for that though, is I think 1243 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 1: further out than you think. But yeah, it depends on 1244 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 1: a lot of things. I mean there's also like um protectionism, 1245 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 1: job protectionism. Trump is big. The unions are going to 1246 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,599 Speaker 1: fight back against some of these things. I mean, yeah, 1247 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,479 Speaker 1: so it's I don't pretend to have a crystal ball. 1248 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: I just think over the long haul. You know, there's 1249 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,960 Speaker 1: not a future in some of those careers. Yeah, I 1250 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 1: mean we will see. Technology is a pretty incredible thing, 1251 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 1: and I mean the advances I've seen in my lifetime, 1252 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 1: you've seen your lifetimes insane. So um, well thanks if 1253 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,640 Speaker 1: you guys have any other emails, send those over to 1254 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 1: soft Rep dot Radio at soft rep dot com. It's funny. 1255 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 1: I love Quint's clothing, I really do. So. I was 1256 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 1: on the site the other day and he was like 1257 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 1: this this cool shirt I wanted to buy with their 1258 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 1: out of my size. But I gladly support Point's um 1259 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,840 Speaker 1: violent Nomad clothing because it's just very cool looking, great designs. Yeah, 1260 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,599 Speaker 1: and Bub's Naturals was awesome enough to send us all 1261 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,360 Speaker 1: this stuff I just saw. Shawn Lake is just such 1262 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,800 Speaker 1: a solid guy man. Every few months he emails me. 1263 01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 1: He's like, I gotta restock you guys know, and I 1264 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,000 Speaker 1: just ran out of of their protein powder too, so 1265 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 1: and it's it's very cool man. If you If you guys, 1266 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 1: listen to the episode Shawn Lake was on. He talks 1267 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:25,280 Speaker 1: about what inspired collagen protein for him as opposed to 1268 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 1: the way protein that everyone else is doing. Um. I 1269 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 1: I personally like the like unflavored stuff. Um, you know, 1270 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 1: because it's it's pretty straightforward if you look at the ingredients, 1271 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 1: it's collagen protein. It's not like filled with dextros and 1272 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 1: all these. Yeah, you can put it in water, you 1273 01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:40,840 Speaker 1: can put it in coffee, you can kind of do 1274 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,439 Speaker 1: whatever you want with it. Um, if you're you know, 1275 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 1: you're sick of you know, we all had that, like 1276 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 1: what was it, gold Standard Way protein and like you 1277 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 1: might after you know, a gallon or today that you 1278 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 1: might get a little sick of the double chocolate. It 1279 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 1: might be a bit much, but um so yeah, I 1280 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,639 Speaker 1: mean Bub's is a good product, and uh a large 1281 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,720 Speaker 1: percentage of every uh of every product sold goes to 1282 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 1: Glenn Dorty memorial offendation. I think it's like ten percent 1283 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,920 Speaker 1: goes to the Glen Doherty Foundation, which is a lot. 1284 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean most of these products is like one percent, 1285 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 1: and you know that's a that's a large percentage because 1286 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 1: once again, lest in the episode with Shawn Lake, he 1287 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 1: talks about living with Glenn at certain points and doing 1288 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 1: cross fit together, and those guys were We're great friends. 1289 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 1: So that's that's why, I mean, that's why it's called Bobs. 1290 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 1: He was Glenn bub Doherty. Yeah, I'm sorry that we 1291 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,759 Speaker 1: had not had Glenn on the podcast before he passed 1292 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,360 Speaker 1: away to just do an interview with him, because I 1293 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,600 Speaker 1: can see why so many people, um, you know, have 1294 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,120 Speaker 1: these very fond memories of Glenn, and I had only 1295 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 1: met him once, but I mean he lives an impression 1296 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 1: he was such a nice guy. So it's a really 1297 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 1: like cool guy. He's like, um, you know I've described 1298 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 1: him in the best The way he struck me was 1299 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,680 Speaker 1: he's almost like what people think, like that what the 1300 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 1: public thinks a Navy seal is because he's like this guy, 1301 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 1: super in shape, super cool. Uh and like played all 1302 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 1: these like like into extreme sports and stuff like that 1303 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 1: and like like all the like downhill skiing and like 1304 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,879 Speaker 1: I think people used to say he had a PhD 1305 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 1: in recreation because he was into all this different stuff. Uh. 1306 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 1: So's he's a really cool guy. And uh, you know, 1307 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 1: you know he died heroically uh in Benghazi. But you 1308 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:25,680 Speaker 1: know I'm sorry that that he's not with us anymore. Yeah. Absolutely, Um, 1309 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,920 Speaker 1: and you know he's celebrated on this podcast. Look listen 1310 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 1: back to the Shawn Lake episode and you'll hear a 1311 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 1: lot of those great stories from Sean. Um. I guess 1312 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 1: that's it excited to you know, do another episode on Tuesday, 1313 01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,720 Speaker 1: which you'll hear on Wednesday. And in the year is 1314 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 1: coming to an end and we've had a year of 1315 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,760 Speaker 1: great shows. I'm gonna put together a best of for 1316 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve with uh some of our best shows. 1317 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 1: But I was looking back in the most listened to 1318 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,639 Speaker 1: episodes you have you ready for our New Year's Party? 1319 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 1: And you know what I was actually gonna tell you. 1320 01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 1: Going from Long Island of Brooklyn, I don't know. I 1321 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,040 Speaker 1: may have to be and it's it's just gonna be 1322 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,000 Speaker 1: crazy because for me, I have to take the the 1323 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you guys are who 1324 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 1: are I don't want to Alice to knock that over 1325 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 1: which Jesus Christ. Um, alright, well girl, please don't destroy 1326 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 1: the studio. UM, so I should keep that in here. 1327 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, taking I don't know how much the audiences 1328 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 1: it should be taking the train from Long Island two 1329 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,720 Speaker 1: Penn Station then to Brooklyn, or having the option to 1330 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 1: drive all the way to Brooklyn. It's just I think 1331 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,960 Speaker 1: you can get on the l I R R to 1332 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:40,760 Speaker 1: um directly into into Brooklyn, not from my town. When 1333 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 1: when we look at that the time map, I know 1334 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 1: my I know my R R from you know from 1335 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 1: where it goes. It only goes to pen I mean, 1336 01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 1: unless I were to go to Queens and then somehow 1337 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 1: go from Queens to Brooklyn. It would just dude, it's 1338 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,960 Speaker 1: like it's a track. Uh So I don't know, man, 1339 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,160 Speaker 1: But what do you guys doing? You and Benny having 1340 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 1: some people over? Yeah, I mean we're having like, you know, 1341 01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 1: some folks over. Um won't be I mean, we live 1342 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,600 Speaker 1: in a New York City apartment, so it's not going 1343 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 1: to be huge. It would be some people coming by. 1344 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 1: So the best of I'm still figuring out. But like 1345 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,920 Speaker 1: some of our biggest episodes we had of the year, 1346 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,360 Speaker 1: we had on Ed Derek, We've had Mike Vining on, 1347 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of putting like some of the other big 1348 01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,760 Speaker 1: listening episodes of like Buck Sexton, Andrew will cal Uh, 1349 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 1: possibly the ALcom Stock and stuff like that. So excited 1350 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,360 Speaker 1: excited to u air that and you guys can hear 1351 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,000 Speaker 1: from our best stop and we're gonna have some extual 1352 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 1: guests as well. You've been listening to Self Rep Radio 1353 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,760 Speaker 1: new episodes of every Wednesday and Friday. Follow the show 1354 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter at self Rep Radio.