WEBVTT - “I FELT LIKE GOD”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Mason Mason. What's up, Mason, Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>H nothing much, man, I'm a long time listener, first

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<v Speaker 1>time caller. Uh found your found your stream twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, I remember exactly where I found the stream,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, it's not what I'm calling calling to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, but I'm kind of curing us because if you

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<v Speaker 2>remember something exactly, it must be interesting. Tell me more so.

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<v Speaker 1>I work. I work at a theme park, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing haunt repair work in one of our haunts,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I saw you on Instagram a couple times,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and then I finally tuned into the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and I listened to your podcasts every day for like

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<v Speaker 1>eight hour, my entire work day, for for about a week.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I'm I'm all caught up on all previous

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<v Speaker 1>uh episodes you post said since then? Which is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really married to the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no shit, no shit, that's really crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's I mean, that's a significant How many episodes

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<v Speaker 2>of this thing are there?

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<v Speaker 1>Like three, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't even know, but you've been I mean that's a

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<v Speaker 2>significant amount of Uh, that's probably a significant amount of

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<v Speaker 2>the words that I have said in the past five

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<v Speaker 2>years of my life, right, I mean think I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about it, right, Like, if you like, in a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hour day, what percentage of the words let's say

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<v Speaker 2>okay in a week? Right, I put out two of

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<v Speaker 2>these podcasts a week in one week, what percentage of

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<v Speaker 2>the words that I say are recorded and put online

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<v Speaker 2>as a podcast. I hope it's not a large percentage.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope I'm socializing enough that it's not a large percentage,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a percentage. It's a you've heard a large

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<v Speaker 2>percentage of the recording words that I have or I

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<v Speaker 2>not I not even requd you've heard a large percentage

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<v Speaker 2>of the total words that I have spoken aloud in

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<v Speaker 2>the last five years. I hope that's absolutely that would

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<v Speaker 2>mean that would mean, that would mean that that I've

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<v Speaker 2>just been silent in thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, well, I live vi curiously through your words,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really I really love the issues that that

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about on your podcast with your with the

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<v Speaker 1>viewers and the callers. I mean, I really I really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of take your therapy for for gospel in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean just just living living through other people's

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<v Speaker 1>world experiences is enough for me to tune into the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast every day.

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<v Speaker 2>So good, I hope. So I hope that that's here

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't I I hope. I hope you're not

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<v Speaker 2>taking anything I say as gospel. I hope you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what I'll say this, here's what I I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you're not taking anything I say as gospel. But if

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<v Speaker 2>I think, if I'm I think if the point of this,

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<v Speaker 2>or if one of the points of this is that

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<v Speaker 2>people are gathering perspectives on the world based on other

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<v Speaker 2>people's lived experience. If if my own lived experience is

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<v Speaker 2>chucked in there, I don't mind, but you probably shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>take anything I say. Is I try not to take

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<v Speaker 2>anything I say is gospel or at.

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<v Speaker 1>Least Oh dude, it's the best man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I thank you. I appreciate that. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>take my own words. You know, I'm trying to trying

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<v Speaker 2>to live better. I'm trying to I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>got to get a handle on my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna say, we're all trying to be the

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<v Speaker 1>best version of ourselves. Man, And that's that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm calling to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Please me talk about you finely.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to finally become the best version of myself. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So so June twenty second, so that's exactly a month

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<v Speaker 1>ago from today. I had I had a stint of

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<v Speaker 1>what what I was diagnosed with was acute mania, So

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of I kind of had this god complex.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything felt larger than life. I had hyperactivity in my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>So the past four, I guess the past month, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been actively coming down from that, and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>very eye opening experience for me. It kind of changed

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<v Speaker 1>the way I think and changed my entire worldview. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling to see if I can get any advice

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<v Speaker 1>from you on how to navigate this, this this new

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<v Speaker 1>perspective and this new journey I'm kind of undergoing here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, before we launch into any kind of advice, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about it, tell me more. What

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<v Speaker 2>did that experience look like?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so since then, I've been I've been talking to

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<v Speaker 1>a psycho biatrist. My my parents started to think that

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<v Speaker 1>I was bipolar. My my psychiatrist completely disagrees, but I

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<v Speaker 1>the experience looked like I took three visits to the

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<v Speaker 1>e R, which is more than I had ever gone

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<v Speaker 1>in my entire life. In one week, I had three

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<v Speaker 1>visits to the e R to kind of talk me

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<v Speaker 1>down from this this heightened manic state that I was in.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it was kind of like a weed

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<v Speaker 1>induced psychosis. I mean, this, this is just this is

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<v Speaker 1>just an idiot doing research online. AI has been a

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<v Speaker 1>big tool for helping me navigate this. I know I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be so reliant on AI, but I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean, it's it's very interesting, man. They they

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<v Speaker 1>got my parents insisted on medicating me. I'd never been

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<v Speaker 1>on any form of medication before I had direct symptoms

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<v Speaker 1>of the medication, so I was I was taken off

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<v Speaker 1>the medication and my parents I still live with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty one. I I can't really move out in

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<v Speaker 1>this economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh br I mean before before before we do anything,

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<v Speaker 2>before we do anything, I mean twenty one. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear the rest of your story. But twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>is a perfectly acceptable age to be living with your parents,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, don't don't freak out about that. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's also not I mean, it's a fucking it's an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing gift that you your parents are still heavily involved

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<v Speaker 2>in your life and care about you enough to be,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going through this with you. So I hope,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I hope you're feeling that love.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's it's unconditional love, but it is almost overbearing

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<v Speaker 1>to an extent because I still feel like I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to navigate the bounds that come with manhood and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find my independence as a man. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've had the same job for seven years. I'm only twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>I started when I was fourteen, and I thought this

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<v Speaker 1>would be my life's calling and I could I could

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<v Speaker 1>work the rat race and work the nine to five

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<v Speaker 1>job my entire life. I'm I'm slowly coming to terms

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<v Speaker 1>with that in this new state of mind, that I

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<v Speaker 1>might go crazy if if I if I end up

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<v Speaker 1>working the same job my entire life. But my parents

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<v Speaker 1>have been trying to instill this foundation onto me that

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<v Speaker 1>I need to work to make money. But watching you

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<v Speaker 1>for the last three years has been really inspirational that

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<v Speaker 1>you can find your voice online and you can find

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<v Speaker 1>you can find other means to make money that's not

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<v Speaker 1>being stuck in the nine to five job.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, my job, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean my job, it's very creative. I'm currently at

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<v Speaker 1>work now. I do a lot of special effects and

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<v Speaker 1>prop making and seen c work scence. He's a wood router.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually in the wood routing room right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple of projects to get done, but I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this would be a more beneficial way to spend

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<v Speaker 1>my time on the clock.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've been so wait aute, you're twenty one. You've

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<v Speaker 2>been in the special effects industry since you were fourteen?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no. I started operating rides and I became

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<v Speaker 1>a rides trainer, a ride supervisor, then moved over to

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<v Speaker 1>special effects right out of high school, and I've I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't touched a hand drill or anything since then. A

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<v Speaker 1>little quick backstory. I grew up in a STEM academy

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<v Speaker 1>from kindergarten through sixth grade, so I always had this creative,

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<v Speaker 1>uh aspect of me that's kind of been untapped up

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<v Speaker 1>until now. Because now I can finally express my creative

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<v Speaker 1>outlet in a way that I reap the benefits from

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<v Speaker 1>the park that I work at. Also reached the benefits

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<v Speaker 1>from so I'm very savvy when it comes to like

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<v Speaker 1>three D modeling. We do a lot of three D

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<v Speaker 1>printing at our at our work. But I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm self taught. I've used AI and YouTube to help

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<v Speaker 1>me out with a lot of these things. But I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there's a passion that lives so deep within me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to explore this, this passion. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of guest service experience, I mean, essentially growing

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<v Speaker 1>up at this theme park, so I know how to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people and I know how to put on

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<v Speaker 1>a stage face. But I'm trying. I'm trying to I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to see how I can apply this in my

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<v Speaker 1>in my real life to to kind of I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it breaks free from the rat race, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've I started voice journaling, so I do

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<v Speaker 1>have a voice journal journal on on my phone, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I can I can take the transcript of that

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<v Speaker 1>voice memo, putting it, put it into AI, and AI

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<v Speaker 1>helps me complete like unformed thoughts that I that I

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<v Speaker 1>had mentioned in the voice journal, it helps me organize. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basically written journaling, but in utilizing modern day technology

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<v Speaker 1>to help me explore what I want to really do

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<v Speaker 1>with my life, kind of back to my parents, I

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still living under their household. I have a wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>safety net that they've they've helped build for me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I like this. I think I've been pretty calledled my

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<v Speaker 1>entire life and don't have the real world experience that

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<v Speaker 1>I envy. Four But I I've essentially lived paycheck to

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<v Speaker 1>paycheck because I put all of my money in cryptocurrency.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you would advise that I shouldn't put all

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<v Speaker 1>my eggs in one basket, as my parents have been

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<v Speaker 1>telling me, but I've I put seven thousand in there.

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<v Speaker 1>My portfolio is currently up to fifty thousand, some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>exponential games in the last year and a half. But

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<v Speaker 1>I Dave Ramsey would be the person I would talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about this cryptocurrency, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I have lots well, I have, I have lots of thoughts. Okay, Well, Also,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, listen, I'm gonna be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>is I've also I also feel as though I've been

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<v Speaker 2>relatively coddled for my entire life. I mean, I grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in you know, so I grew up you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with a in a house in the suburbs, and my parents,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they pay for me to go to college.

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<v Speaker 2>And they let me live there for you know, fucking

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<v Speaker 2>live in the house until I was twenty two twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was able to save and do all the scrap.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also felt like I was like, oh crap,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I have no uh semblance of the real world whatsoever,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But I also but I also have the

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<v Speaker 2>belief that like, uh, listen, if you can use that too,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, don't you. I I think if you can

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<v Speaker 2>use that position to you know, enrich your life, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're bot from enriching your life, you kind of there's

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<v Speaker 2>a there's a bit of I would call I would

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<v Speaker 2>call it trickle down enrichmond when you you know, use

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<v Speaker 2>it to do do do you know, as like a

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<v Speaker 2>starting launching platform to do something that's worthwhile for your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh you know, I think that benefits uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the people around you who care about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Two.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh oh, there's a bunch of other things. I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to say, Oh, crypto, I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't have I don't I mean, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any crypto. I'm not a crypto guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're missing out, man, And utility coins. Look into

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<v Speaker 1>ISO twenty twenty two, compliance try to invest in US

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<v Speaker 1>made cryptocurrencies, something with utility, because it seems like that's

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<v Speaker 1>where our financial system is headed. So, I mean, for

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<v Speaker 1>the last three years, I've kind of been preaching the

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<v Speaker 1>gospel when it comes to cryptocurrency, and that's just that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way the world is heading.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I'm okay again. A lot of things, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Again. I could talk all day about cryptocurrency. I've done.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done three years of research onto this. Finance in

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<v Speaker 1>high school is always what I was most passionate about.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, and I actually and I actually, I actually, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a good thing because it's true, you need

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<v Speaker 2>money to exist, right and if you're lucky unfortunately, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you need money to exist, and if you're lucky, you

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<v Speaker 2>can figure out a way to make it that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>take up too much of your time so that you

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<v Speaker 2>can go and do the things that you actually want

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<v Speaker 2>to do. Crypto, I'm not. I don't know anyth about crypto.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really don't. I don't want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it only because I don't know about it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's okay to I. I also when I was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when I was twenty one, I had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of separate parts of my brain where I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of separated my brain into like three or

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<v Speaker 2>four categories where I was like, Okay, I need to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out something I can do to make money, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I need to figure out something I can do

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<v Speaker 2>to that is like makes art, and I need to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out something I can do that gets me around people,

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<v Speaker 2>and I need to focus on and I need to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure I get the money thing down, pat, because

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<v Speaker 2>then it'll help me out with the art thing and

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<v Speaker 2>the being around the people thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you are genuinely thriving, then I have all of those,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those four checkbox ticked.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the age of seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I got well, I got you know, I got a

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<v Speaker 2>little lucky. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>COVID was a huge benefactor to that. Dude. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember going on Reddit and and and seeing seeing that

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to start this thing and then call this line.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean your story is is very uh and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean your business model, I guess too, you could say

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<v Speaker 1>is very inspirational too. I mean just just your everyday listener.

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed that. Uh. It was her name Ava

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<v Speaker 1>that British woman you had on I just got done

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<v Speaker 1>listening to that part.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, great, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was That was a great conversation man, And it's really

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<v Speaker 1>cool to hear from your I mean, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say older, but you're more more wise audience numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I mean, it's just it's just the way

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<v Speaker 1>you break down those those calls is is very beneficial

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<v Speaker 1>to me when I'm trying to experience the world vicariously

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<v Speaker 1>through I mean, I guess your callers, right, because so

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<v Speaker 1>that seems like the best way I can I can

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<v Speaker 1>pick up on on my flaws, other people's flaws, and

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<v Speaker 1>again kind of tying back to the beginning of the conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>being the best version of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I appreciate that. I want to get back into

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<v Speaker 2>your life for a second. And by the way, just

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, I'm just and you've heard every episode

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<v Speaker 2>of my show, so I guess, I'm I guess, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>only I guess I'm just saying this to myself. But

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<v Speaker 2>obviously you know I'm not a real therapist and work,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm interested. But You've brought up a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>topics as we've been talking that I have personal interests in,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm happy to just like chat with you about them.

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<v Speaker 2>So you brought up a lot of things that I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get into. I'm trying to keep a note

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<v Speaker 2>of all of them. I'm going to rattle off the ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember you talked about masculinity navigating that. Is that correct? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>You were talking about mania and just general mental health stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and then talking about talking about like trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>what you actually want to do with your life, your

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with your parents. I'm down to get into all

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. Let's talk about Let's talk about the masculinity thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Where you where are you at with that? What are

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<v Speaker 2>the thoughts with that? What's right? Made you bring that up?

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a couple of things that that that it

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<v Speaker 1>sparked me to just say that. But my my state

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<v Speaker 1>of acute mania really made it clear to me that

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<v Speaker 1>I am a man that is I'm going to quote

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<v Speaker 1>Paul McCartney here, Uh, maybe I'm a man that's in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of something that he doesn't really understand. That's

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<v Speaker 1>from a song. Maybe I'm amazed, And I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>that really resonates with me because we're all just men

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<v Speaker 1>and women and children trying to navigate this this world

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, and how we how we respond

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<v Speaker 1>to our adversities and and things that things that really

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<v Speaker 1>bog us down and distract us from I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not very religious, but God's plan, I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a plan, there's a there's a path that all

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<v Speaker 1>of us are destined to be on. And I mean, so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I mentioned the man because my parents think

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<v Speaker 1>of me lesser as a man because of the way

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been responding to this adversity in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this last four weeks has been pretty hellish

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<v Speaker 1>for my parents because they've seen me. They've seen me

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<v Speaker 1>in a heightened state that they're not used to. So

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<v Speaker 1>every time I come home, my mom kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>says she wants her son back, and the son that

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<v Speaker 1>she once knew as her roommates. I mean, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>their essential, essentially their roommate for the last three years

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<v Speaker 1>since I turned eighteen and got my full time job

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<v Speaker 1>out of high school. They uh, they want that relationship back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think myself as lesser of a man then, because

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<v Speaker 1>I was addicted to poorn, I was addicted to my phone,

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<v Speaker 1>I was addicted to h to marijuana, all these these

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<v Speaker 1>crutches in my life that have have negatively, uh negatively

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<v Speaker 1>been impacting me. Uh, I've break, I've breaken free from

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<v Speaker 1>from from those things. I'm finally getting back in the gym.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm finally becoming the version of myself that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be. So when I come home and my parents

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm lesser of a man because they don't recognize

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<v Speaker 1>this new me anymore, it's it's kind of disheartening.

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<v Speaker 2>So Okay, you don't have to get into it if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to. But you you described kind of

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of this some like manic episode where

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<v Speaker 2>you thought that you were God? What what was.

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<v Speaker 1>That it was? It was, I mean a cute mania.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I just have have kind of I've done

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of research, but what from my psychiatrist

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<v Speaker 1>has told me I had a God complex where where

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<v Speaker 1>I uh, man, it's a little it's still hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me to process this because it was it was riddled

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<v Speaker 1>by insomnia, it was riddled by my excessive marijuana usage.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>contributors to what led me to this state of acute

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<v Speaker 1>mania and I mean it was tough, man, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a tough like week of in and out

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<v Speaker 1>of the er, in and out of fighting with my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, kind of spewing off the same same garbage

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm telling you now.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you do you know what sollipsism is.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, maybe I should maybe, maybe maybe I shouldn't send

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<v Speaker 2>you down this rabbit Maybe it's not responsible to send

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<v Speaker 2>you down.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge fan of rabbit holes, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably not respond it's probably super irresponsible to send

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<v Speaker 2>you down this rabbit hole. But the only reason why

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<v Speaker 2>I and bringing it up is is, I guess in

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<v Speaker 2>relation to the god complex. Yeah, syllipsis, don't go don't

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<v Speaker 2>go too crazy on it. Please stay in the matrix. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the matrix is a nice place to be, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>you're twenty. Stay in the matrix as long as you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know if my parents have escaped

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<v Speaker 1>the matrix for for the last four weeks and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't stand what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>We can, we can, we can, we can talk about that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't whatever. Syllpsicism is this idea that your

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<v Speaker 2>consciousness is the because I've gone I've had a I've

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<v Speaker 2>recent not over the past year. As I've been hading,

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 2>you've listened to my podcast, you know, I'm going through

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 2>an existential crisis. As the year has been going, I've

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<v Speaker 2>also had like a weird God complex of this. And

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I mean by that is Syllipsism is the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that your own consciousness is the only verifiable thing

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, yeah, well, it's the only thing that's verifiable

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<v Speaker 2>to you, and so it leads you down this path

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<v Speaker 2>of thinking, like, wait, theoretically I could be God. Not

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<v Speaker 2>in the sense of like I'm like, not in like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm better than everyone else kind of a sense, but

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<v Speaker 2>in like a oh, I'm the only thing that can

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<v Speaker 2>be verified, but I also have got but also the God,

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<v Speaker 2>the the like a God complex thing manifests itself in

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<v Speaker 2>this sense of like, sure, I'm God, but also everyone

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<v Speaker 2>is God because.

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<v Speaker 1>God lives in within, God lives in with all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, well, well, the idea that like, I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm create. I I am created out of fucking like

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<v Speaker 2>biological material and carbon and ship that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>part of my parents who were created out of carbon

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<v Speaker 2>and it just keeps good. Eventually, if we go back

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:25.680
<v Speaker 2>farther enough, we get in from like how I got

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<v Speaker 2>here and how I'm able to have these thoughts and

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<v Speaker 2>how I'm able to be conscious of myself. We start

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<v Speaker 2>to delve into things that are beyond the known, and uh,

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm a I'm a conscious product of the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>I am the universe aka God. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in like a Christian God, but you know

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like, you're you're you're born.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the p.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not everything, I'm everything. I'm saying like feels

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<v Speaker 2>very like empirical to be. I know, I use the

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<v Speaker 2>word too much. I'm saying like makes sense, Like I'm look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm created of, Like I'm a weird thing. We all

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 2>are weird things. I'm a weird thing where I'm biological

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:18.639
<v Speaker 2>material like the like created from the universe itself, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also conscious and I am experiencing the rest of

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 2>the universe. That's fucking crazy to me. It's a wild

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.280
<v Speaker 2>it's a wild concept. So like be whatever, the whole

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 2>thing of, Like I'm the universe experiencing itself. Whatever. Blah

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:38.160
<v Speaker 2>blah blah, Anyway, anyway, I'm sorry that was a huge tangent,

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 2>but that that's kind of I love it. But also,

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<v Speaker 2>but here's why I.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, you want to stream of consciousness, man, that's that's

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what tis. I mean, that's why people are so

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>interested and you have diehard listeners, right, I mean your

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>stream of consciousness. When when you get into talking about

0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a subject matter that's as heavy as that, it's it

0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 1>just it resonates so well with a lot of us,

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>like free thinkers, I would say, I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that, Mason. I want to keep on subject.

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to keep on you is okay, So you

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:16.880
<v Speaker 2>were talking about let me let me ask you this, man,

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:21.640
<v Speaker 2>because what did the psychi when you when you went

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>crazy and you went to the er and you and

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 2>you saw the psychiatrist. What did they tell you?

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing. I was kind of in the

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>midst of that god complex, but I was fully lucid

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:39.119
<v Speaker 1>and conscious the whole time. So I was actively trying

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 1>to resist treatment. So I mean, for the first time

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>we went to the er, everything was was pretty chill

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and dandy. These these medical professionals I'm air quoting right now, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well didn't didn't didn't see well? Right, right,

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, at least at least for me. They are

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<v Speaker 1>medical professionals. They are able to help people who need

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the help. But when when you don't feel as though

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>you need the help in that state of mind, because

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean I was, because I was fully lucid and

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>aware of my surroundings, but it was it was more

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>of a spiritual awakening to me than it was any

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 1>form of diagnosis. That were you but the matrix could

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 1>give me?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, I have again, I keep having thoughts about this.

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<v Speaker 2>So were you when you say that in the in

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.479
<v Speaker 2>the in the time you were there, when you were lucid,

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 2>you were not rejecting help, and you were and you

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<v Speaker 2>called them quote unquote medical professionals as I'm talking to

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>you right now, do you? And I'm not in the listen, listen, listen,

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 2>let me let me right finish your quite And I'm I'm,

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm not in the businesses. Maybe I am, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, I I what fuck it do?

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<v Speaker 1>I had these right, I did think they could help me.

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 1>But when I spend four hours of my life not

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:14.200
<v Speaker 1>seeking active help because my parents think I desperately need it.

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>It seems like wasted time every time we went in there.

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<v Speaker 1>The only time they were really of service to me

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>is when I was having direct symptoms of my medication.

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>So I would I would go in there because my

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 1>parents think I'm manic, which yeah, you could from an

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 1>outsider's perspective, you could definitely say I was manic. But

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 1>but I would rather be at homes like like going

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>down rabbit holes, or watching YouTube or fucking jerking off,

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>like I mean, doing something that's productive to me in

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>my life. Because when I was sitting in that hospital room,

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>multiple hospital rooms for an extended period of time, waiting

0:27:56.240 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 1>for the medical professionals to come in and try to

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>diagnose what I'm what I'm undergoing, they weren't of any

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>service to me, and it really just left myself and

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>my parents with more questions about what I was going through.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to I just want to clarify. I want

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 2>to clarify something. Are you talking right now from the

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 2>perspective of you at the time, or this is how

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 2>you feel right now.

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Me at me at the time, this is this is

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>me at the time, This is me able four weeks

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>able to reflect on that time spent, because I mean,

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>it's it's exactly a month to the date. I've been

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to call the last couple of times because I

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 1>thought you would find my story interesting. But yeah, dude,

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's just a lot for me to process.

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>One is a man but also trying to find independence

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and trying to break free from from the the societal

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>constructs that my parents have laid before me.

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 2>What is this? What is the societal contract that what

0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 2>is the societal contract.

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>That I that I need? That I need that I

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>need to find a job that will make me money.

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>But during my awakening, I realized that this was not

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the job for me. Okay, And I mean, and I

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm actively like I feel like a caged

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>bird right now, who who wants to spread his wings

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>and fly. But I'm trying to find what I'm deeply,

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>truly passionate about to kind of help me. But I mean,

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty one and the world's my oyster, right So

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I will I probably won't find that

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>right now, but that's I've kind of been banking on

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>cryptocurrency too much to help help me find this financial

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>freedom so I can take like a gap year in

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 1>my in my working history to find what what what really?

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>What really resonates with me for the since COVID, I've

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of had dreams of being a nomad and living

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>in a van down by the river, as Chris Barley

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>would say, or I mean taking a sailboat and going

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>and sailing from Seattle down to Hawaii. I mean, like

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>so very ambitious goals like that.

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Actually I was. Yeah, I was like I think

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one when I first was like, oh I

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 2>want to do Yeah, when I was also I was

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 2>also at that age I was thinking a lot about

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 2>nomad adventures and those things. Yeah, have you well, but

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 2>also but also have you ever done anything like that?

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>No, sir okay, I mean other than other than backpacking,

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>camping trips, really trying to get in tune with the

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>really just touching graphs. I mean other than that, No,

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>because I haven't had the funds or means to do.

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 2>So you're up what fifty grand in crypto?

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir okay.

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been out of the country?

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Yeah, my parents were very fortunate enough to take

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>my brother and I exploring around the world. Was last year,

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the year before we went and saw the Mayan ruins

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>down in Chietsa, Nitza, we had a we had a

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>tour guide there that really opened up my mind. And

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the sun gods and how the Mayans created

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>our calendar year fifty two seasons in a year, seven

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>days a week was all be able to they all

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>they read that from the sun. And I mean, I

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>think in a lot of ways, society is more advanced.

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Society was more advanced back then than it is now

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>just because we have smartphones. I mean, I'm an old

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>soul that would really like to unplug from from the matrix,

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 1>if you will. I mean, because nomadic lifestyle just seems

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>like how our ancestors intended for us.

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you this, and this is there's no

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 2>correct philosophy on how to live. I don't believe. And

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 2>also I don't. You and I might have different interpretations

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>for what the quote unquote matrix is. Uh, my personal

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 2>interpretation of what the matrix is is like, uh, you

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 2>have kind of like where your brain is at when

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 2>you're in some form of a spiritual awakening and you're

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 2>seeing beyond the day, the day to day, right, and

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 2>and the day to day and living in a society

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 2>and stopping at stop signs and waiting in line at

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 2>the CVS and talking to someone in a hallway and

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 2>being on the computer and uh, you know, talking to

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 2>your mom on the phone and saying hi to somebody

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 2>who walks past you down the street like that, Like

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 2>that's the matrix or whatever, and or like you know,

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>you're waiting in line at a sandwich shop and you're like,

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 2>why is this line not going? Or whatever? You know,

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 2>you're that's that's I get, Like the matrix. That's like

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>every day. And then like beyond that is where you're like,

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 2>uh oh, what the fuck? I'm the universe experiencing itself

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 2>and what right? And my personal philosophy is you want

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 2>it is if you is. I was actually just talking

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>about one of my friends about this, uh and and

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 2>she disagreed. She wanted to live fully outside the matrix.

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 2>But this is how I think about these things.

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Live fully outside the matrix will need to be firmly

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>planted in reality.

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, That's how that's what I was going. That's that's

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 2>what I was gonna say. Is I enjoy life the

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 2>most when I'm one foot inside always you gotta keep.

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 2>You gotta keep, especially if you're at the point where

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 2>you know you're you're going through psychosis and you're going

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>to the er and you're you're really scaring the people

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 2>around you, you want to keep. It's I think it's

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 2>good to explore that which is beyond the matrix. But

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what's funny. You know what's interesting is that

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you explore all these things outside of the matrix, But

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 2>then the real spirituality is kind of found within the

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.480
<v Speaker 2>matrix a little bit, right, right, It's kind of found

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>within the matrix. You know, it's found in very sure

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 2>small things. I mean, you know when you're whatever. Let's

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>say you work at a fucking office and you are

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 2>at the you're getting a snack from the fridge, and

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>your coworker is talking to you about some fucking thing

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 2>they did over the weekend, and you're talking to them

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 2>like that's very matrixy. But that's also but also but

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:53.760
<v Speaker 2>also being in the moment of that conversation has deep

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 2>spiritual value, you know, so so go, so it's fun

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 2>to explore yourself beyond the matrix and whatnot, But you

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 2>got you bring it back, and you bring it back

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 2>and you use it to because you also you also

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 2>don't live there. Your your physical body and brain you

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 2>live in. You live in society. You can go off

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 2>into the woods and remove yourself, but you, I don't

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>know if you're gonna have such a great time. You know,

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 2>it's good to live in society. So you, you know,

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 2>go off and have your spiritual awakenings and whatever, do

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>your fucking ayahuasca and uh, I mean maybe don't do ayahuasca,

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>but go and and do do those things. But but

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 2>bring it, bring it back so that when you're whatever

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 2>talking to your son one day about some bullshit, it's like,

0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>you can navigate the thing you act you can, you

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 2>can use it to better navigate the thing you actually

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 2>live in. Does that make any sense to you? Or

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 2>am I on a road?

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.400
<v Speaker 1>No? It totally, It totally does, dude.

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, because you, because you, if you, because you you

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 2>realize a lot of things that are matrix y. You

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>really you have to make money to survive. You you

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 2>want a career or a or to pursue a passion

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 2>of some kind that requires you to exist within your

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:13.879
<v Speaker 2>ego and your identity. Right, so the things you want

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 2>are all matrixy, but that's good. If you live too

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 2>far outside of the matrix, you'll get I don't know.

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what your brain is like. I only

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 2>have the experience of my brain. And when my brain

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 2>goes too far outside of the matrix, I get lost.

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>I just get lost. I'm honored to you know, think

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 2>about that ship, but you get And also, you've become

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 2>an asshole when you talk to your even when you

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 2>talk to your friends about the matrix. And the more

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 2>you talk to your friends about how you're the universe

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.360
<v Speaker 2>experiencing itself, the more they're gonna hate you.

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>So they think you're arrogant. They think you're an asshole.

0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 2>And I mean being arrogant about it only if you

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 2>are right, you know.

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, I say those things because that's how my parents

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>were referring to me when when I talk, And I mean,

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm trying to find that separation between me

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>living outside of the matrix while still living in the

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 1>confines of my household, while still living in the confines

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>of the matrix, going going, and clocking in every morning.

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>But I think it takes a lot to navigate, man.

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>And uh, it seems like I'm too young to be

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>experiencing the world in this in this in this light

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:30.760
<v Speaker 1>at the moment, maybe.

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Sorry to storry to start to interrupt you, but also in

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:39.280
<v Speaker 2>talking about like I don't you shouldn't let your parents

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.279
<v Speaker 2>and the people are You shouldn't let your parents and

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 2>the people around you dilute you. You know what I mean,

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 2>You should let them dilute you. You you shouldn't let

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:54.280
<v Speaker 2>them dilute you. But also you gotta learn to live

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 2>in the other people's contexts. You know, you gotta have

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 2>the empathy for your parents myself. Got to put yourself

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.919
<v Speaker 2>in their shoes, and you got to understand how their

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 2>brain works and how their world works, and you might

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:11.720
<v Speaker 2>you might be living in this world that's like spiritually

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 2>beyond what they understand, not even in a douchey I

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 2>don't even that sounds douchey, but you know what I mean.

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 2>But you got to learn you gotta take some empathy

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.280
<v Speaker 2>and have it for them so that you can be like, Okay,

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:28.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna what's the best way to be in this

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 2>situation with them right now? And that that shows that

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I because you got to you got to live in

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 2>their context. You can't let them you don't want to

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 2>let them dilute you, and you don't want to let

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 2>them make you feel bad about yourself or make you

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying.

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying hard, right, Yeah, I'm trying hard. But uh,

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to separate myself from Agent Smith actively trying

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 1>to to pull me back into their way of thinking. Right.

0:38:56.400 --> 0:39:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I refer to today I did my parents'

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Agent Smith.

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 2>But that is really that is extremely funny. But I mean, well,

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I want to ask you.

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I I want to free slope, dude.

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you. So, I mean, what is

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 2>going on with your parents? Like? What is the deal there?

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 1>They? They love me almost too much. It feels like,

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it's overbearing. I've had this unconditioned, unconconditional

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>love for the last twenty one years of my existence.

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:32.919
<v Speaker 1>I will always know they love me, and I will

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:37.319
<v Speaker 1>always love them. But I don't feel as though I'm

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>in a a constant state to be parented anymore because

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I've I've found that in forms of mentors, mentors and

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>my job mentors in my life, my I I find

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>it hard to relate with my peers sometimes because because

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm an old soul. I feel like a man that's

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 1>that's living in the sixties right now. If that makes

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 1>any sense to you, I mean, I I I just

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I find it hard to come to terms with with

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 1>realities we know it today because I'm just reminiscent on

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 1>on past societies, past cultures.

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Okayanna, I'm gonna I'm gonna stop you. I'm gonna stop you.

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 2>What is it about? And I want you to try it.

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try I want to try to rain this

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 2>in and get really specific here. What is it about

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 2>past societies that you think can't be found in the

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:45.359
<v Speaker 2>world that you currently live in? If you can give

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 2>me a specific answer about that, because I'm willing to

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 2>bet so.

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm immediately I'm immediately thinking of the movie Midnight in Paris.

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Owen Wilson goes to Paris and he hops in a

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>in a horse wagon and carriage, and it brings him

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>back to the nineteen twenties in a time where Paris, culture, literature,

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 1>evolution in society was at its finest. And what I

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>took out of that message was people are people in

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 1>the present are actively trying to go back to how

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:31.919
<v Speaker 1>things used to be. And I mean I'm just a man,

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 1>and I know I can't charge the course of history,

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>and I go back.

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I gotta stap, I gotta stop you, I gotta stop you.

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry for forgetting your name, because I'm really

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 2>enjoying our conversation. But what was your name again? Mason?

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Mason?

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Mason Mason. I'm gonna stop you, and I'm going to

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 2>ask you again because you kind of did the thing

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 2>that I thought you were going to do. Okay, right,

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 2>you kind of did the thing that I thought you

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:58.919
<v Speaker 2>were going to do, which is fine, But I'm gonna

0:41:58.920 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 2>ask you again. What's specifically do you think is gone

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 2>from the past that you can't find today?

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Really? Really nothing? The only the only thing something maybe

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the addition of smartphones, right, I mean, I just, I

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.520
<v Speaker 1>just I don't like the way that smartphones make the

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 1>common man think anymore, because everyone would rather be so

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:33.800
<v Speaker 1>sucked into the reality of their online screens. It's really

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>just the modern age of technology we live in. While

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I reap the benefits of that, I also am reminiscent

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 1>of a time where I had to go to the

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>library to uh to find information.

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:52.399
<v Speaker 2>And I means I I I under here's the thing,

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 2>and I get that. And actually I don't think you echo, uh,

0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 2>you don't echo an unpopular sentiment. And I think a

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of people, especially like you know, I mean, uh,

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, twenty one twenty seven is is not a

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 2>crazy gap, but it is a gap. And I think

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:12.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people, you know, you were of the

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 2>age where where we've only we've only known smartphones. And

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people do realize underneath it

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 2>that they don't like smartphone culture and they don't like it,

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>and I I I think that you're not alone in that,

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 2>and I think that there's opportunity in understanding that you're

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 2>not alone in that and going out to find uh,

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 2>the more sort of intentional people and intentional communities that

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:51.839
<v Speaker 2>you seek. But you don't wanna you don't, I don't.

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I just I just would you know, you're a smart guy, Mason,

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I would. I would hate for you to waste any

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:05.360
<v Speaker 2>time menting about the state of the world when you

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 2>could be when you could be finding the people and

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 2>the places that are worth engaging, because you know, I

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 2>fucking every you know, dude, every every This is not

0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 2>a popular sentiment, but every epoch of history has had horrible,

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 2>horrible things going on. I mean, we had fucking like,

0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 2>we had two world wars. Man, Like, you know, there's

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:42.840
<v Speaker 2>never been a state of the world that was utopian.

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Maybe actually maybe maybe a little bit in the nineties,

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 2>but even then there's probably going on that was kind

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 2>of when technology was perfect. But anyway, but anyway, like

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 2>all the things that at least, if we're going to

0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 2>talk about you as an individual, the things that you

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 2>seem to want, wants, you seem to want to just

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 2>from talking to you, I'm gauging that you seem to

0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:09.400
<v Speaker 2>want connection, you seem to want community, you seem to

0:45:09.440 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 2>want to be able to express yourself. You seem to

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>want adventures. Those are I mean, bro, those are my

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Those are my three big life values. Is adventure and community,

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 2>creative expression, and you can you can find them. You

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 2>don't need to travel to fucking the eighteen hundred's. Life

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 2>would suck in the eighteen hundreds. Man, you're no, but

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't need to imagine.

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Imagine. Imagine imagine a get Go pulling out their gun

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>from there and being a gunslinger, right, just just like Rango.

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, Mason, I can Mason, Mason, I can buy

0:45:45.760 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 2>a gun right now, I don't want a gun. You

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:53.560
<v Speaker 2>can go have an advent. You can go to the

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 2>library right now. You don't have to transport to so,

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, if I were just like again, I would

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 2>hate for you to be lamenting the world you could

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.360
<v Speaker 2>live in instead of realizing the opportunities that exist in

0:46:09.400 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 2>the world that you do live in. Especially you, I mean,

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 2>you got you got it on lock I. I know

0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 2>that the crypto or whatever. You understand that you've got

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 2>to try to figure out some way to make money

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 2>outside of the traditional ways in order to you know,

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 2>you understand the concepts of financial freedom and you understand this.

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:31.719
<v Speaker 2>And then the air thing. As far as dealing with

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:40.280
<v Speaker 2>your parents, I mean, I don't know, man, you'll honestly,

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:44.160
<v Speaker 2>if I had to simplify my thoughts about this conversation

0:46:44.239 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 2>that we've had so far, I think you'll figure it out.

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 2>But like, don't let yourself go too crazy, man, Like stay,

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Stay stay? And also, yeah,

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 2>when other people want to help you, you should also be

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:01.160
<v Speaker 2>open to letting them to the degree that it doesn't

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 2>dilute your your spirits and personality. You should let people

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:11.880
<v Speaker 2>help you, especially medical professionals. Because also a lot of

0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 2>the fucking things that we think of as spiritual awakenings

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 2>are truly just brain chemicals acting in crazy ways, you know.

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:26.280
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so I don't know, let people, let people

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 2>help you try to cultivate some form of empathy and

0:47:30.200 --> 0:47:33.320
<v Speaker 2>understanding with your parents while not you know, while preserving

0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 2>yourself and yeah, just try to try your best. Man.

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it was a long rant, but.

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh dude, that exactly what I needed to hear today.

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I do need to make amends with with my parents.

0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I knew. We had a kind of drag out fight

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 1>last night where I just I just wish conflict resolution

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>was more addressed in my upbringing because I'm actively trying

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 1>to keep an open mind and kind of check my

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:11.240
<v Speaker 1>emotions at the door when I'm when I'm having conversations

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and really just taking in the full scope of scope

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:17.880
<v Speaker 1>of what they're saying. And I mean that kind of

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>ties back to living in the moment and and being

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:25.720
<v Speaker 1>an active listener. So you're not you're you're you're listening

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and you're not reacting to what they are saying. Yeah,

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and that's that is still what I'm trying to juggle

0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and process right now is as I try to find

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 1>my footing in this world, as we all are trying

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:40.359
<v Speaker 1>to find our footing in this world. I mean, we're

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be ever changing individuals, and I mean I'm

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>just I'm just trying to to evolve. Essentially. It's broadened

0:48:56.120 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>my horizons in a way that most people aren't open

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to h to doing because they're they're content and they're

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:07.440
<v Speaker 1>comfortable in their current way of thinking and there in

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 1>their current environment and circumstances, and uh, the wilderness must

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>be explored.

0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well try not to trying to I I uh,

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 2>you know what's funny is I actually do think especially

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:27.279
<v Speaker 2>I think when you're younger and you're I you know,

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 2>when you're like young and ambitious, there is a tendency

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 2>to think of yourself in terms of others, which is

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying of like, you know, I want to

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 2>explore the wilderness and I don't want to be like

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 2>the other people. And that's actually it's a weird. It's

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:48.120
<v Speaker 2>a helpful jump start slash motivator to getting yourself out

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:51.000
<v Speaker 2>and in the world and doing shit. But you know,

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 2>then it's funny. I mean, I've been on that jur

0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm still on the journey. But then you kind of

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 2>do all that stuff and then you come back down

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 2>to earth and you're like, oh, we were all we

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 2>we were all kind of the same and some Yeah,

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know anyway, Mason.

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, we're all human, right, Yes,

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 1>we're all human.

0:50:13.160 --> 0:50:20.400
<v Speaker 2>We're all destined for who knows. We didn't talk about

0:50:20.840 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 2>the job thing. Yeah, we can talk about it briefly

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 2>if you want. What do you want to do?

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Dude? That's That's still what I'm trying to figure out

0:50:29.920 --> 0:50:33.839
<v Speaker 1>because I was I was content with so when I

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:38.080
<v Speaker 1>when I graduated, my my walkout speech was I want

0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:41.279
<v Speaker 1>to win the lottery and I want to buy the

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:46.000
<v Speaker 1>theme park that I've worked at my entire life. Uh.

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 1>The owner of the theme park saw that and uh

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:52.439
<v Speaker 1>and had a chuckle. But I mean, I've always I've

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of been a one track mind up until my

0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:58.200
<v Speaker 1>acute mania, So I mean I would I would have

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 1>been content with working at this place my entire life,

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 1>but I'm actively trying to veer away from from that

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 1>way of thinking and uh and realize there's more to

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>life than to the than than working at the same

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 1>job my entire working career. So right now, I think

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to expand my resume. I mean, the resume

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:29.360
<v Speaker 1>comes to like gaining world experience as well as my

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>working career. So I mean, I'm I'm almost thinking working

0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:37.160
<v Speaker 1>for a cruise line and uh and being able to

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 1>being able to see the world while also getting a

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 1>steady paycheck, living living abroad and living aboard a vessel. Right, So,

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think there's there's proper ways to go

0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:57.759
<v Speaker 1>about this that kind of tap into the what I'm

0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:00.520
<v Speaker 1>what I'm actively searching for, and that's just a sense

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:04.359
<v Speaker 1>of connection and a sense of humanity because I kind

0:52:04.400 --> 0:52:07.320
<v Speaker 1>of I kind of radiate off the energy I receive

0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in the world. So I mean, if I'm if I'm

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:15.080
<v Speaker 1>around a group of people, my my initial instinct is

0:52:15.160 --> 0:52:18.439
<v Speaker 1>to bring the spirits of others up. So I kind

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of do that in the form of being a stand

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 1>up comedian. I kind of do that in the form

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:28.240
<v Speaker 1>of being courteous and uh and charismatic and gentle to others.

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 1>But when when I'm when I'm receiving toxic energy or

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:38.839
<v Speaker 1>or hearing things that I mean that are coming from

0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a place of love. But yeah, I just I need

0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to be more open and understanding kind of like you're saying.

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:48.040
<v Speaker 2>But you. But I also I think that what you're

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:50.239
<v Speaker 2>talking I think everything you're talking about is is sort

0:52:50.280 --> 0:52:54.200
<v Speaker 2>of a natural process of maturity that you go. I mean,

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:58.359
<v Speaker 2>you're still still young man. I think. I think I'll

0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:01.000
<v Speaker 2>let you go in a sec But I I think

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 2>that the hunches that you have to make more of

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:10.960
<v Speaker 2>your life and do more things and try to put

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:12.880
<v Speaker 2>yourself out there by you know whatever, going on a

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.080
<v Speaker 2>cruise line or maybe doing like a work away or

0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 2>some shit, I think they're great hunches. And I and

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I think that a lot of the things you're going

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 2>for sort of emotionally or spiritually, they kind of come

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:32.040
<v Speaker 2>as a result of like natural maturity. So I just

0:53:32.520 --> 0:53:36.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna let you go, but I'll say don't let

0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 2>just don't let just don't let yourself go too crazy,

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.719
<v Speaker 2>and try to let people help you if they feel like, yeah,

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 2>they feel like you need help. Mason, is there anything

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:45.719
<v Speaker 2>else you want to say to the people of the

0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:46.719
<v Speaker 2>computer before we go.

0:53:48.640 --> 0:53:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily to the computer, I do have a thought

0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.800
<v Speaker 1>for you. Have you ever thought about doing a therapy

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:58.320
<v Speaker 1>get go podcast out of an airplane as you're actively

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:01.520
<v Speaker 1>skydiving for the first time, or if you if you

0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:03.799
<v Speaker 1>haven't been skydiving before. I think that would be a

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 1>good piece of content.

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I unfortunately hate that idea.

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I have.

0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:12.160
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not interested in, Yeah I do. I I'm

0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 2>not interested in like extreme sports or things that in

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:20.560
<v Speaker 2>like any kind of like physical danger, right, But I

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.240
<v Speaker 2>like But I appreciate the idea. I appreciate the idea.

0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I think I would. No, I would, I would ship

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.719
<v Speaker 2>my pants. There's way, but there's there's way other things

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:31.799
<v Speaker 2>that I would rather do than skydive. But who knows.

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Then the people, the computer. I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>live and let live, and I mean be the best

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:40.319
<v Speaker 1>version of yourself every day.

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<v Speaker 2>So beautiful. Thanks for listen, Thanks for the kind words

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<v Speaker 2>you have about the podcast, Thanks for sharing your story,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll uh I'll see you around the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Misson absolutely man, thank you for the time. Take care

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:56.080
<v Speaker 1>of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny he said he's listened to every episode. I

0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:06.440
<v Speaker 2>wonder if he's gonna listen back to himself on this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be crazy. That could be crazy. I liked

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 2>that conversation. Yeah, I do feel like I actually I

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:20.440
<v Speaker 2>feel I felt a lot in common with Mason, like

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:24.640
<v Speaker 2>like thinking about like me at twenty one, Not so

0:55:24.719 --> 0:55:27.439
<v Speaker 2>much the existential stuff. I wasn't particular I was maybe

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I was a little bit existential when I was twenty

0:55:29.920 --> 0:55:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I was definitely a little bit existential when I was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one, not to the degree that I am now

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 2>or to the degree that I think Mason might be.

0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:44.720
<v Speaker 2>But I definitely had the same sort of adventurous spirit

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 2>or desire to find something beyond what I what I knew.

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:56.480
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think I think he'll arrive at certain

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<v Speaker 2>places again through just some natural maturity. And that was

0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:05.840
<v Speaker 2>and that was that call, and I am a gecko.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, Hi, I'm Cora. Wow, this is crazy. How's it going?

0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh? You know, actually this morning is going good. I

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:22.480
<v Speaker 2>feel good. I'm here on the earth. I'm asking a

0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:28.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of questions to my brain, but you know, doing

0:56:28.560 --> 0:56:31.680
<v Speaker 2>the best, doing the best I can. How are you doing, Coorra?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing pretty good? You know, I'm feeling I remember

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 3>you told the listener one time, is the least important

0:56:43.480 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 3>conversation that you'll ever have. I'm trying to tell myself

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:50.680
<v Speaker 3>that right now. Yeah, you know is doing pretty good.

0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, breakout work.

0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is among one of the least important conversations

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<v Speaker 2>I think you'll have. What's what's your life like side

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:01.440
<v Speaker 2>of this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm a trans woman. Uh. I just moved to

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 3>Seattle from the Midwest, so that's a pretty interesting change.

0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm living with a couple, so it's me and then

0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 3>two people that are dating in a two bedroom, which

0:57:23.600 --> 0:57:28.400
<v Speaker 3>is only the second weirdest roommate situation I've had. But yeah,

0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 3>that's pretty much what my life looks like right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that a weird situation for you? Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like you're third wheeling these people?

0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, no, it's it's like chill, we're all we're

0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 3>all like queer, so it's not like super awkward.

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:53.440
<v Speaker 3>I think we've avoided awkward situations so far. But you know,

0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 3>sometimes I got to set boundaries, you know, got to

0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:01.960
<v Speaker 3>be like, don't share, don't be intimate around me, you know,

0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 3>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the other roommate situation that you were in?

0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:14.400
<v Speaker 3>My ex? So I lived with my ex for like, wow,

0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 3>I just saw someone run over a traffic cop and

0:58:16.160 --> 0:58:19.680
<v Speaker 3>that's crazy A sorry. So I lived with my ex

0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 3>for like a year after we broke up, and that

0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 3>was the weirdest roommate situation I think I have ever

0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:37.600
<v Speaker 3>been in. And I think I mean, obviously that's already weird,

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:42.640
<v Speaker 3>but it was mainly weird because they started dating someone

0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 3>like very shortly after we broke up and continued to

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<v Speaker 3>live together.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they have the person that they were dating over

0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:53.760
<v Speaker 2>the house while you guys were living together?

0:58:55.280 --> 0:58:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Were you guys sharing like a one bedroom or a

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:00.640
<v Speaker 2>studio or did Aulae have your own room?

0:59:01.480 --> 0:59:03.880
<v Speaker 3>So I had my own room. We shared a wall,

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:08.400
<v Speaker 3>so I did hear some things. It's kind of weird,

0:59:08.640 --> 0:59:10.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of felt like I was sitting in the cuck

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 3>chair sometimes, you know what I mean?

0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally. Whose idea was it to break up.

0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Theirs?

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Ah? Yeah, yeah, it was like yeah, yeah, go ahead, Oh.

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:31.840
<v Speaker 1>No it was. It was just like.

0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:35.920
<v Speaker 3>A bad relationship though, So I think they're kind of valid,

0:59:36.000 --> 0:59:39.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, I think we were just we were together

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<v Speaker 3>for like four and a half years or something when

0:59:42.080 --> 0:59:46.800
<v Speaker 3>we broke up, and I'm twenty four. I just turned

0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:50.200
<v Speaker 3>twenty four, so like we were together for like since

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<v Speaker 3>like high school, so you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And are you outdating anyone? Now? Are you? What are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. You know, I've been thinking about getting on

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<v Speaker 3>dating apps. I feel like i've kind of I've not

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<v Speaker 3>been dating or been interested in anything romantic since I moved.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why. I feel like I've just been

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<v Speaker 3>like since I was in a relationship for so long,

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<v Speaker 3>I've just been like enjoying doing my own saying, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, mm.

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<v Speaker 2>Hm m hm uh what is it? What is your

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<v Speaker 2>own thing that you've been doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I let's see. My big three hobbies are like music,

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<v Speaker 3>video games, and I make like YouTube videos. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, I feel that's a weird. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we're bringing up YouTube videos on your podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry that I was, well, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was gonna ask. I was gonna ask what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube videos? What kind of YouTube videos?

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<v Speaker 3>So I got I just started a podcast actually, And

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<v Speaker 3>then I also make me and one of my roommates

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<v Speaker 3>makes We both make video essays and I I edit

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<v Speaker 3>them and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the thing, what was the last thing you

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<v Speaker 2>made a video essay about?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the last thing I'm The thing I'm about to

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<v Speaker 3>upload is so I make anime videos. But like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>also queer, So I want to get like a queer audience, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought, what better thing to cover than to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about futinari? What the you know that is?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I probably I I what is what is Fuinariutinari?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm going to be the caller that teaches you

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<v Speaker 3>about futinari.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is essentially like Tai you know head Tai. It's that

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<v Speaker 3>but with girls with like massive penises, and that's essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole meme.

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<v Speaker 3>And my video was on whether or not it's representation

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<v Speaker 3>because it's kind of fetishizing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was kind of just like.

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<v Speaker 3>A pseudo intellectual video essay about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you know, can I I'm very curious about

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<v Speaker 2>what you think about this? Is like, is is the idea?

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, maybe this is a stupid thing

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. But like in the current world right

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<v Speaker 2>where like everyone like we're no longer living in a

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<v Speaker 2>mono culture, like is representation still a thing because like

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<v Speaker 2>we're all kind of representing ourselves on the internet now,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like I don't, well, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'm curious what you think because like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, do we need like, do are people still

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<v Speaker 2>like hung up about like representation and like mainstream media

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<v Speaker 2>if there isn't any mainstream media really, I mean there

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<v Speaker 2>still is, I guess mainstream media, but it's like dying,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So it's like when you because like when

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<v Speaker 2>you scroll on TikTok or Instagram reels, you already get

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<v Speaker 2>like you're algorithmically you're presented with representations of yourself like naturally,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't I'm just spitballing ideas here.

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<v Speaker 2>But what do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's so real because like before you page, my

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<v Speaker 3>for you page is all people that are like me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all great people and other than like stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>goes viral and just ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Up there naturally.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's mostly people that are like me. So I

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<v Speaker 3>am represented by my social media and takes. That's an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting point. I feel like a lot of people have

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<v Speaker 3>been like just like so disillusioned by popular media like

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<v Speaker 3>move like Marvel movies. For example, they were going to

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<v Speaker 3>release a comic for Marvel called Snowflake and Safe Space,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was supposed to be representation for non binary superheroes.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like obviously that's so cringe to have a

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<v Speaker 3>superhero called Snowflake and safe space. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>that's a great example of like, yeah, we don't need

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<v Speaker 3>representation when it's like a billion dollar corporation. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not even looking for that anyways.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, I mean kind of like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess who gives a shit what like the billion dollar

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. I don't know. I feel like social media,

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<v Speaker 2>although people have demonized lots of aspects of it, it

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<v Speaker 2>has allowed for greater democratization of the media landscape. You know, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I got okay, I got a question for you, So listen,

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<v Speaker 2>as a queer person, how do you feel when like

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<v Speaker 2>what a target or whatever, or like like during Pride Month,

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<v Speaker 2>right when all these companies are like, hey, look we

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<v Speaker 2>have a ring, we changed our profile picture to the

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<v Speaker 2>rainbow flag. But it's still like, you know, we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of crazy stuff behind the scenes, Like does

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<v Speaker 2>is that do anything for you? You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I have a funny anecdote about this. There was like

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<v Speaker 3>a viral video of someone like trashing of Barnes and

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<v Speaker 3>Noble Pride display. So it's like from down the street,

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<v Speaker 3>from where it grew up, like at my Barnes and Nobles,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like two years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>This year, companies did not really do the whole Pride thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's because of stuff like that where

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<v Speaker 3>people were coming in and like screaming about like tucking underwear.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I wish stuff like that, you know, Like

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<v Speaker 3>the Target specifically is tragic because like sometimes they do

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<v Speaker 3>be having cute stuff at Target, you know, like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and it really depends on the store. Also, I saw

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<v Speaker 3>there's like always a meme like a Cracion Pride profile picture,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like you're telling me Pride profile picture, Like okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but I guess I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't like when you see that, you know, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>got like like like the trans flag in it, Like

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<v Speaker 2>does that do anything for you? Does that make you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that do you like that stuff? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>No, It's I feel like it's more of a meme.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's kind of like an indicator of

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<v Speaker 3>just like whoever's president, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 3>how like.

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<v Speaker 1>How which which way.

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<v Speaker 3>The tides turning in terms of which is more profitable,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>They don't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more of like a yeah, No, it doesn't do

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<v Speaker 3>anything for me. It's just more interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. What you what, you grew up in the Midwest?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I grew up in Arizona, so kind of Midwest

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<v Speaker 3>kind of okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Was there a lot of queer culture in the Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a lot of queer culture, or in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of a weird state because everything's so spread

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<v Speaker 3>out and it's so hot, so no one fucking goes outside.

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<v Speaker 3>So the community there is very like spread out and

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<v Speaker 3>not very centralized. But there are a lot of gay

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<v Speaker 3>people that live in Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you in a major city or were you in

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a smaller place.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in a major city, so I went to Asu,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, so that area was pretty gay. But there's

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<v Speaker 3>also a lot of everyone there because international students and

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<v Speaker 3>just everyone in college town, you know. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think Arizona.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like very weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, I mean, obviously all the young people are

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<v Speaker 3>like general like West Coast demographic, but also like we

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<v Speaker 3>have so many boomers that are just giving, like straight,

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<v Speaker 3>like midwestern small town like evangelical Christian, Like who am

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<v Speaker 3>I about to talk to right now? When I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>for the fries, you know, likeice old lady or like

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<v Speaker 3>crazy person. You know, that's kind of how it fell

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<v Speaker 3>for me. I don't know if this is like the

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<v Speaker 3>same experience for anyone listening. Obviously, I'm a trans woman,

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<v Speaker 3>so I kind of view it through like a more

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<v Speaker 3>bias lens. I'm sure it's trail for some people.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, And how has Seattle been in comparison just

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<v Speaker 2>I mean sort of just in general?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh, it's awesome. I mean for queer people, this

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<v Speaker 3>is like the best place to be I'm telling you

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<v Speaker 3>Capitol Hill and like just Seattle in general, there's like

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I actually am seeing people like same sex

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<v Speaker 3>couple's hold hands in public, which is something I had

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<v Speaker 3>never seen before, like outside of Pride Parade. So that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I think also people in Seattle, it's kind of funny

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<v Speaker 3>people in Seattle suck and saying hi to you on

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<v Speaker 3>the street. I don't know, what do you think do

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<v Speaker 3>you enjoy when people say, like, hey, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>They suck at saying hi? Well, I feel like in

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<v Speaker 2>any big city you're not going to get people saying

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<v Speaker 2>hi to you on the street.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're in New Yorker. Can people do that there?

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<v Speaker 2>No, of course not definitely. Not well, because there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many people, Like saying hi on the street is like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let me think. No, I mean when I go back

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<v Speaker 2>home to Baltimore, like to the suburbs, like I'll say

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<v Speaker 2>hi to somebody if I pass by them in the suburbs.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not I don't think that's really a thing

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<v Speaker 2>that happens in a big city.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess if there's so many people, you can't say

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<v Speaker 3>to everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe like yeah, no, no, it's not really a big

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<v Speaker 2>saying hi to people town. What do you what's so

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<v Speaker 2>you're living with this couple there right, yes, okay, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you know them?

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<v Speaker 1>Where?

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<v Speaker 2>They just ran? The people from craig list or are

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<v Speaker 2>your friends?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>So one of them is like my best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>We moved.

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<v Speaker 3>He actually asked me to move here first, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like okay, sure. So we moved here together and

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<v Speaker 3>then he started dating someone like pretty fast, just because

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<v Speaker 3>he's like very like social and on dating apps and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and uh yeah, it just ended up working out that

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<v Speaker 3>the U haul lesbian. I don't know if you've heard

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<v Speaker 3>that term, you haul lesbian?

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<v Speaker 2>But what is a lesbian?

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<v Speaker 1>So a U haul.

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<v Speaker 3>Lesbian is when two people, two queer people start great

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<v Speaker 3>and so U haul lesbian applies to woman, but it

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<v Speaker 3>could be anyone. And it's essentially when the relationship moves

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<v Speaker 3>really fast in terms of like, oh, we met two

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<v Speaker 3>days ago and now we're like moving in together, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so we already got the U haul. So it's called

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<v Speaker 3>it U haul lesbian?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a I feel I feel like And this

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<v Speaker 2>is purely like anecdotal observation, Like, I feel like, do

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<v Speaker 2>do queer relationships tend to move quicker than straight relationships? M?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>Because straight people have a stick up their butt?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like the process of a straight relationship first

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<v Speaker 3>date is removing the stick up your butt and then

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<v Speaker 3>you can talk like normal people, you know, like everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>so scared. I feel like queer people like you already

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<v Speaker 3>have like such like a huge life experience in common.

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<v Speaker 3>You are you can kind of get past that like

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<v Speaker 3>awkward face. I feel like a bit easier interesting, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're just more comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, is there do you think? Like again,

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<v Speaker 2>anecdotally from your experience, do you have you found like

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<v Speaker 2>that queer people have been more like generally wired for

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<v Speaker 2>like down for like monogamy from the start, because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, well, like in straight relationships, I feel like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>in general, there's a lot of like hesitancy for commitment

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, oh maybe you know, in the world

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<v Speaker 2>of infinite possibilities, is there someone else better out there?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we want to move things so fast?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like there's less of that in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the queer community?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there less I'm sorry, what was the last part

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<v Speaker 3>of the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know, just just like, uh, a fear of commitment.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put it short.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, no, I'm back on track. Yeah, So I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's more like you can.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it's per person I wouldn't want to generalize

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<v Speaker 3>fear of commitment as like a queer thing or not

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<v Speaker 3>a queer thing, but I feel like maybe I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like maybe queer people just like lack community from spaces

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<v Speaker 3>where it's offered normally, like maybe family or like friends

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe like in schooling, Like if you're like not

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<v Speaker 3>in an accepting area, I feel like stuff like that

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<v Speaker 3>makes you like want to move faster in your relationship

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<v Speaker 3>because you want to like feel what you don't have,

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<v Speaker 3>and normally you don't need to do that in a

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<v Speaker 3>relationship to get those things, you know, Like there's lots

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<v Speaker 3>of found family, so I feel like it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of has to relate to that also, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of an incentive to commit as supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>fear of commitment. To bring it back to your question,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like there's more of an incentive to commit

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<v Speaker 3>for like community, Like you're all in the same community anyways.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. What about you personally? How's your Are you like

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<v Speaker 2>trying to find a husband or a wife or like

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<v Speaker 2>what is your what's your goal?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I thought I was in the men for so long,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think I really just want a wife, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>or a girlfriend. I don't want to get married, honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>It was kind of speaking a fear of commitment. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not trying to get married. That's scary. But yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been thinking of getting on dating apps. But I

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<v Speaker 3>also want to see if like going to like third

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<v Speaker 3>spaces or shared spaces for like my interests would help

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<v Speaker 3>me find and meet people because I just moved here,

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<v Speaker 3>so I need to like go out and like find things,

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<v Speaker 3>do my weekly thing, so I don't kill myself, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like that one guy said magic on Monday, So I

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<v Speaker 3>don't kill myself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true. You got to have something to make a

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<v Speaker 2>say don't kill yourself. It's very important. Yeah, it's very important.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a job of some kind out there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, without docting myself, I work at car dealerships, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's a very not queer job. It's kind of the opposite. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, tell me more. How has that experience been.

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<v Speaker 3>So I work on like the I work like non sales.

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<v Speaker 3>I work in service, so when I talk to salespeople,

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<v Speaker 3>it's always like in passing. So this is where I

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<v Speaker 3>get a lot of like oh, people stuck and saying hello.

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<v Speaker 3>Like so these are like my coworkers that I never

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<v Speaker 3>have to talk to, but we see each other every day,

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<v Speaker 3>and they all suck at communicating, specifically at this dealership

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm at right now. I feel like everyone sucks

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<v Speaker 3>at communicating except for me, and car dealerships are just

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<v Speaker 3>like that out here. I don't know everyone like so focused. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm basically salespeople are so focused on selling cars that

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<v Speaker 3>they're kind of rude, and then the service texts are

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<v Speaker 3>all just like dude bros. So if you're one of

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<v Speaker 3>those types of people, it's great. But yeah, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just here because it makes me some money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what do you work in? Do you are?

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<v Speaker 2>You do work in sales or you do you like

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<v Speaker 2>get commissions and stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>So I work in service, so I like work on

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<v Speaker 3>the electricity. I'm like twelve o'ol, so that like I

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<v Speaker 3>work on cars, like the electricity part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, okay, it's not very int. What's your name

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<v Speaker 2>in Karra?

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<v Speaker 1>Cora?

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<v Speaker 2>Cora? Uh? What's your I guess before we go? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I want to ask you this, Quorra, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know we just kind of chatted for twenty minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>but was there a particular thing you wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about when you called?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I steered the conversation towards all the

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<v Speaker 3>topics I would talk about, honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect. So what's next for you, Kara? What's your dream

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<v Speaker 2>in life? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What? Uh? What's an influencer?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be an influencer.

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<v Speaker 3>Or work for someone. This isn't I'm not doing the

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<v Speaker 3>critch thing where people call it as for jobs. I

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<v Speaker 3>would never do that, but I w it's either that

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<v Speaker 3>or like be an editor for someone like a YouTuber,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So those are my two things I'm working

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<v Speaker 3>on right now. So I've been editing my podcast and

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<v Speaker 3>I got my friends YouTube channel in mine and just

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<v Speaker 3>autistically doing that over and over again. So yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Your and have you uploaded a video essay before? Is

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<v Speaker 2>this your debut?

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<v Speaker 3>I've had I've done three four, but two of them

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<v Speaker 3>my first one is pretty so. My first one's bad,

1:18:04.280 --> 1:18:08.000
<v Speaker 3>my second one's pretty good. I'm uploading a third one

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<v Speaker 3>and then I have a couple on my friend's channel.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm starting out, though it's pretty debut. No subscribers, have

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<v Speaker 3>you got any?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you got any any buzz on any of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Or at least because there's the thing, right, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>about like going viral or getting a ton of views,

1:18:24.720 --> 1:18:27.240
<v Speaker 2>but like if you post a video essay, right and

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<v Speaker 2>you get like three comments from people you don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I think I found it that So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I agree. I'm not really like focused on the numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of more focused on how much I can

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<v Speaker 3>engagement I get with people. So, like one of them,

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<v Speaker 3>I posted about how this anime character is trans and

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people don't think that they're trands. It's

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<v Speaker 3>from this anime called Rama one Half or Context for

1:18:55.560 --> 1:18:59.960
<v Speaker 3>anyone that knows that show. That got like five hundred views,

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<v Speaker 3>but it got like a hundred comments of people arguing

1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:05.080
<v Speaker 3>in the comments. Yeah, because that's what you're on like

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<v Speaker 3>a controversial topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right right, so yeah, that's what people I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people don't understand about like building Internet careers

1:19:13.680 --> 1:19:15.759
<v Speaker 2>or whatnot. Is it's not about like how many views

1:19:15.840 --> 1:19:19.120
<v Speaker 2>or followers someone or something has. It's more about like

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<v Speaker 2>how many comments there are because that that that's a

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<v Speaker 2>representation of like how many actual human beings are genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>engaging in the things that you are saying and doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, I think it's so cool. I actually get

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<v Speaker 3>like that feedback, especially on YouTube when it's like delayed.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's very fun. It's like instead of

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<v Speaker 3>it's like turning in like a video assignment for a class,

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<v Speaker 3>but instead of a teacher, it's like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>like random.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve year old boys on the.

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<v Speaker 3>I like, how did I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that analogy. Yeah it is. It's like you're

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<v Speaker 2>writing an s say for school, except instead of a teacher,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bunch of twelve year olds on YouTube that

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<v Speaker 2>are giving you the grains. That's very funny. Well, Coora Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want, you can shut yourself out.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I my.

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<v Speaker 3>Video essay channel is Cora Lex c O R A

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<v Speaker 3>L e X, and then my podcast is called Pleasers

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<v Speaker 3>and you can really just called, like type in pleezers

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<v Speaker 3>Cora lex.

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<v Speaker 1>And it pops up.

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<v Speaker 2>Cora Lex. Anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 2>people of the computer before we go go outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't be afraid of making eye contact with people. You

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<v Speaker 3>look silly. I am someone that starts being afraid of

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<v Speaker 3>eye contact. I'd be looking at people ignoring me, and

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<v Speaker 3>that looks silly. We all got to start talking to

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<v Speaker 3>each other more, That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Stare at everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, therapy, pople in public.

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<v Speaker 2>Beautiful, take care of court.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, you two fine?

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<v Speaker 2>That was fun. What was the thing? Foo? Put foo

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<v Speaker 2>something something of the foo Kora Lex. Let's go I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna check her out. Let's see Cora Lex YouTube dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>slash kora Lex. Oh, okay, This is not what I

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<v Speaker 2>was expecting to come up when I typed it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a skateboarding person. This is definitely not the

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<v Speaker 2>right thing. Okay, I'm just gonna search Kora lex On.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh harah, here we go, Here we go. Did trans

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<v Speaker 2>people ruin anime? I think that I think that's the

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<v Speaker 2>one that that that they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I like this format. This is cool. Yeah, there we go.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bunch of people in the comments talking about

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<v Speaker 2>each other. That was good. This is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I like I like make I like when people make stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's good to make stuff rock and roll. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what's up, folks. I'm gonna end this episode by doing

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of gak mail. Uh. If you're not familiar,

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<v Speaker 2>gek mail is a thing that I do where I

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<v Speaker 2>uh read viewer mail and uh if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>me to read an email that you have sent, you

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<v Speaker 2>can send me an email at therapy gecko mail at

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<v Speaker 2>gmail dot com and I might perhaps read your email.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's, uh, let's start reading a few emails, shall we. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this first one is from Valentine. The subject line is

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<v Speaker 2>all caps. We are sinners. Valentine says dear Lyle, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been listening to your podcast since the pandemic and I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to thank you and the listeners for bringing together

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<v Speaker 2>so many stories. Thank you, Valentine on twenty six from Vienna, Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>And am not religious by any means, but this New

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<v Speaker 2>Year I walked past a church and thought about going

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<v Speaker 2>in for confession, mainly because therapy is so expensive and

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<v Speaker 2>religions use many tools like meditation that are used in

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<v Speaker 2>therapy too. However, I didn't go in. It's fine. I've

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<v Speaker 2>thought about doing a confession once. I don't know can

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<v Speaker 2>Jews go to confession? I feel like that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's who gives it? No one. I think they just

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<v Speaker 2>let you in. I think he's to do it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>After giving it some thought, I realized that most of

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<v Speaker 2>the sins quote unquote discussed and confession are religious in nature. Parentheses, blasphemy, masturbation,

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<v Speaker 2>primarital sex, etc. And I don't feel bad about participating

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<v Speaker 2>in those things. When I got home, I kept thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about what I would have said if I had gone in.

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<v Speaker 2>At first, I couldn't come up with anything. This felt strange,

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<v Speaker 2>because of course we all do things that aren't okay,

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<v Speaker 2>even if unintentionally. The more I thought about it, the

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<v Speaker 2>more I spiraled into overthinking may and other's actions and

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<v Speaker 2>whether they are morally right and respectful. I wonder how

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<v Speaker 2>many people find the balance between being self serving and

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<v Speaker 2>empathetic for the community when the line is evil and

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<v Speaker 2>when uh? I wonder how many people find the balance

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<v Speaker 2>between being self serving and empathetic for the community and

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<v Speaker 2>when the line of evil is drawn? And how conscious

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<v Speaker 2>all those good and evil people in the world are.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the sins that came to mind had to

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<v Speaker 2>do with Eric, the man from the Australian Homeless shelter.

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<v Speaker 2>The man oh oh, the man from the Austrian homeless shelter. Okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember this. Do you guys remember a phone call

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<v Speaker 2>that I took on here? I think I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is a yeah, this is a This is a person

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<v Speaker 2>who is referencing a phone call I took on here

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<v Speaker 2>from this guy, this Austrian dude named Eric who worked

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<v Speaker 2>at a homeless shelter. One of the things that came

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<v Speaker 2>to mind had to do with Eric the man from

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<v Speaker 2>the Austrian Homeless Shelter. In the chat when I was

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<v Speaker 2>streaming this on Twitch, In the chat, I commented that

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to get in contact with him to go

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<v Speaker 2>to your show in Cologne, and he replied that we

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<v Speaker 2>should get in touch. Interesting, however, I completely ghosted him.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, I was broke from a trip I

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<v Speaker 2>had just taken, under immense pressure to finish my experiments

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<v Speaker 2>for my master's thesis and trying to find a PhD position.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, Eric was probably looking to get

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<v Speaker 2>in touch with me and never got a reply. I'm sorry, Eric,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you can forgive me. I hope you and

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<v Speaker 2>Eric had an amazing show in Cologne and that you'll

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<v Speaker 2>come back to Europe Sunday. All the best, love your podcast. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I'm confused about. Is okay, when you say

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<v Speaker 2>you ghosted him, right when you say you ghosted him,

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<v Speaker 2>were you guys just in the twitch chat and you

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<v Speaker 2>were like, hey, we should go to the show together,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, yeah, we should and then you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't say anything else. Is that really ghosting? Because look,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing, right, we all know that we all

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<v Speaker 2>know that some plans just don't make it out of

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<v Speaker 2>the group chat. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes plans

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<v Speaker 2>just don't make it out of the group chat. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not really ghosting. Ghosting would be more like if you

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<v Speaker 2>guys got in contact and the DMS and you were like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what time do you want to meet up on the

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<v Speaker 2>day of the show?

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>If it got to that point, then maybe it's ghosting.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it was just like you brought it up

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<v Speaker 2>in the chat, I don't think. I don't think you

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<v Speaker 2>need to go to confession for that necessarily, But thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for your thoughts, Valentine. Okay, let's see here. This

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<v Speaker 2>is from Jeremy subject line open masturbation, second date. Hey, Geck,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a girl over at my house hanging out. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this person spelled girl with a U. It's not that important,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also a little important. I had a girl

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<v Speaker 2>over at my house hanging out. We met on the

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<v Speaker 2>apps hinge. Specifically, we were just chilling watching a show.

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<v Speaker 2>No physical contact or intimacy had been performed at all

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<v Speaker 2>thus far. This evening, we were watching Squid Game season three,

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<v Speaker 2>and I get up to let my dog out, and

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<v Speaker 2>when I come back, this girl is completely naked on

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<v Speaker 2>my couch, legs spread open, using a mini vibrator, casually

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<v Speaker 2>having an orgasm right there, right on my couch. Exclamation point.

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<v Speaker 2>I see this and go oh sorry, turned around and

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<v Speaker 2>walked back outside and came back a minute later. When

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<v Speaker 2>I get back, she's dressed and sitting there watching TV

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<v Speaker 2>like nothing happened. I sit back down and watch for

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<v Speaker 2>about five minutes in complete silence before I ask her

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<v Speaker 2>why she didn't just use the bathroom or something, and

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<v Speaker 2>her response was, I just needed to have an orgasm.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm almost certain I'm asexual, but hate labels,

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<v Speaker 2>so I just set her up on a date with

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<v Speaker 2>a mate who's always horny. Lol. I'm Australian, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Come to Cannaburra for a show. My confused regards Jeremy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a what an awesome email. That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, I you know, Jeremy, I have to say,

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you're a sexual, that's all cool. I

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<v Speaker 2>have such strong respect for you that, after all this happened,

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<v Speaker 2>you just you set her up with one of your friends.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. That's a really good Uh, that's a really

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<v Speaker 2>good move this woman. Clearly, I think if a woman

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<v Speaker 2>comes to your house and then you go to the

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom or some ship, and then she comes back, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you come back and she's just naked. She's probably

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<v Speaker 2>I would probably assume that she was into you, or

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<v Speaker 2>she or something. I would probably that's a I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a fair assumption. Maybe she didn't know that you were,

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<v Speaker 2>that you were asexual. I don't know. I don't this.

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<v Speaker 2>I this is an interesting case to me. But you,

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<v Speaker 2>I would ask your friend. I would be like, so,

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<v Speaker 2>what what's up? Did you did? Did? Did? Did your

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<v Speaker 2>friend and this lady go on a date? Did? Did?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm cre I'm really curious about this lady. If your

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<v Speaker 2>friend ends up going out with this lady and then

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<v Speaker 2>gives you any more information, let me I send another

1:30:15.000 --> 1:30:17.479
<v Speaker 2>email because I'm curious what this lady's deal is, because

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<v Speaker 2>there's some something's going on. Maybe who knows. Not that

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<v Speaker 2>it's any of my business, I guess, although I guess

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<v Speaker 2>my entire show is about things that are none of

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<v Speaker 2>my business. You're a good homie, Jeremy. Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>from Brendan subject line stuck in my own brain. Hello, Lyle.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll keep this as short as I can. Recently, I

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<v Speaker 2>broke up with my partner and ever since it happened,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't changed for the better. I've been ignoring most

1:30:50.560 --> 1:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>social connections I had and feeling NonStop guilt for the

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<v Speaker 2>breakup and also for being distant from the world. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't stop feeling pathetic and scared to step back into

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<v Speaker 2>the world despite how bad this is for my health.

1:31:04.439 --> 1:31:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been too depressed or distant to want

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<v Speaker 2>to be a part of people's lives? If you have

1:31:10.800 --> 1:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>or haven't, do you have any advice on how to

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<v Speaker 2>stay positive and go through life even when it seems

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<v Speaker 2>impossible to do? Love? The podcast was a treat to

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<v Speaker 2>see you alive later this year. If you read this

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<v Speaker 2>higher a Koul guy anonymous. Oh okay, well all right,

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<v Speaker 2>well we'll cut his name out. We'll just say this

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<v Speaker 2>is from anonymous. Okay. I'm trying to think here. I'm

1:31:38.160 --> 1:31:41.280
<v Speaker 2>trying to think here, and this is a real this

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<v Speaker 2>is a very much a real therapist type of a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I am it does have me thinking about my

1:31:48.000 --> 1:31:50.320
<v Speaker 2>own life. I think. I mean, I'm the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's two kinds of like depressed people, Like

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<v Speaker 2>some people get depressed and they when some people when

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<v Speaker 2>they get depress, say withdraw and they don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to anyone. And I've had I have tons of

1:32:03.840 --> 1:32:07.160
<v Speaker 2>friends like that who they get depressed and they just

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<v Speaker 2>ghost everyone and they don't want to be a part

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<v Speaker 2>of people's lives. In my personal experience with depression, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the opposite. When I get depressed, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to okay, I'll say this, uh, when i'm you know,

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<v Speaker 2>part of what I enjoy in my own life and

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<v Speaker 2>is also my job, is like interfacing with new people

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<v Speaker 2>and new experiences and trying to find interest in the

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<v Speaker 2>world around me, and like I have, I have a

1:32:47.720 --> 1:32:51.160
<v Speaker 2>part of my soul that like loves life and loves

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<v Speaker 2>people and loves new experiences and wants to connect with

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<v Speaker 2>as many folks as possible and engage in as many

1:32:57.080 --> 1:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>novel experiences as possible and whatnot. And when I get depressed,

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<v Speaker 2>I absolutely distance myself from that part and I go, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't give a fuck about to anyone or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>and I super distance myself from that. But when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to people I'm already connected with, like the people

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<v Speaker 2>in my life, like my you know, my family and

1:33:19.360 --> 1:33:22.960
<v Speaker 2>my like my my real friends and whatnot, when I

1:33:22.960 --> 1:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>get depressed, I tend to be drawn uh uh more

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<v Speaker 2>towards then, if that makes sense. I typically crave social

1:33:33.439 --> 1:33:37.640
<v Speaker 2>connection from people I already know when I'm depressed, but

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<v Speaker 2>I lose the part of myself that wants to engage

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<v Speaker 2>with the world at large. And so do I have

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<v Speaker 2>any advice on how to stay positive and go through

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<v Speaker 2>life even when it seems impossible to do? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>within your ability. I don't know what your life looks

1:34:06.640 --> 1:34:14.360
<v Speaker 2>like beyond just this email, but I've definitely had I've

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<v Speaker 2>had periods of time where I was really depressed and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I shouldn't bother dating or going out

1:34:23.720 --> 1:34:26.840
<v Speaker 2>and doing anything because I'm just like, I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>can't see why anyone would want to be around me

1:34:31.600 --> 1:34:35.360
<v Speaker 2>right now because I'm just like such a I have

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<v Speaker 2>no energy. And I think typically when I feel that way,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a sign that I gotta go back in to

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<v Speaker 2>the I call it the depression laboratory, where we gotta

1:34:56.040 --> 1:35:00.240
<v Speaker 2>hit the drawing board. We gotta go, Okay, something something

1:35:00.320 --> 1:35:02.439
<v Speaker 2>is not good here. Is it a medication thing, is

1:35:02.479 --> 1:35:05.559
<v Speaker 2>it a is it a brain thing? Is it a whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>We get we hit the drawing board. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>when I feel this way, I just go back to

1:35:09.160 --> 1:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>the drawing board, and I go, okay, I'm clearly you

1:35:13.000 --> 1:35:15.800
<v Speaker 2>can't force it. I don't think I'm just talking. I

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<v Speaker 2>advice is one thing I can only I can only

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<v Speaker 2>really just tell you my lived experience, and I found

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<v Speaker 2>I can't force things when I'm depressed. So if I'm depressed,

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<v Speaker 2>and that means I can't like whatever, go to some

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<v Speaker 2>social event or you know, do this podcast or do

1:35:35.280 --> 1:35:38.920
<v Speaker 2>something that demands of me, I don't try to force

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<v Speaker 2>it because the idea of like you said it, you

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<v Speaker 2>say in this email, do you have any advice on

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<v Speaker 2>how to go through life? And even when it seems

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<v Speaker 2>impossible to do it? Is if I'm in a situation

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<v Speaker 2>where a thing seems impossible to do because of my

1:35:56.600 --> 1:36:00.839
<v Speaker 2>mental health, I just don't do it, and I go, okay,

1:36:01.240 --> 1:36:05.840
<v Speaker 2>let me go back to the depression laboratory and go, okay,

1:36:05.840 --> 1:36:07.720
<v Speaker 2>maybe I need to get more sleep, maybe I need

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<v Speaker 2>to try some medication, maybe I need to do this

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<v Speaker 2>that the other thing first before I begin to feel

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<v Speaker 2>like myself. And then the things that were previously impossible

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<v Speaker 2>to do, I'm like, oh, they were impossible to do

1:36:25.760 --> 1:36:29.679
<v Speaker 2>because of something internal that I needed to work out

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<v Speaker 2>first and now that I've worked them out, I'm like, Okay,

1:36:33.920 --> 1:36:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I actually can interface with the world after kind of

1:36:37.920 --> 1:36:42.639
<v Speaker 2>fixing myself a little bit. That's really how it's worked

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<v Speaker 2>just for me in my life. So also, sometimes, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>you just got to turn your shit off and back

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<v Speaker 2>on again, you know what I'm saying. So you ever

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<v Speaker 2>have a day, You ever have a day where you're like, yeah,

1:36:58.960 --> 1:37:03.719
<v Speaker 2>we gotta this, we gotta give we gotta give up today.

1:37:04.320 --> 1:37:08.439
<v Speaker 2>We'll try again tomorrow. I think I've brought this up

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast before, maybe, But doctor k who's great.

1:37:12.120 --> 1:37:14.080
<v Speaker 2>You should check him out on YouTube. He goes by

1:37:14.160 --> 1:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>healthy gamer Gigi. He's like a he's an actual therapist.

1:37:18.760 --> 1:37:21.560
<v Speaker 2>He's like a psychiatrist guy. I know he does a

1:37:21.600 --> 1:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of mental health videos. But he talked about uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He says he doesn't dip into reserves. He says he

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<v Speaker 2>works hard, but he doesn't dip into reserves. And when

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<v Speaker 2>he said that, I was like, that's fucking genius. So

1:37:44.360 --> 1:37:46.600
<v Speaker 2>that's kind of how I do it is I'm like,

1:37:46.800 --> 1:37:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I'll i'll be a part of other people's lives. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>interface with the part of myself that wants to be

1:37:54.520 --> 1:37:58.559
<v Speaker 2>in the world doing things, and I'll work as hard

1:37:58.560 --> 1:38:00.519
<v Speaker 2>as I can, and I'll, you know, try as hard

1:38:00.520 --> 1:38:04.559
<v Speaker 2>as I can. But once I sense in my brain

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<v Speaker 2>and my body that I'm beginning to dip into reserves

1:38:08.960 --> 1:38:12.080
<v Speaker 2>is when I stop and I go, Okay, time to

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<v Speaker 2>turn this off and back on again. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that rant was helpful for you in any way,

1:38:19.200 --> 1:38:24.800
<v Speaker 2>but good luck, Brendan. Okay, I'll take a I'll take

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<v Speaker 2>one more viewer call.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from We Found Love in an Email? Okay, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is from Elise. The subject line is we found

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<v Speaker 2>Love in an email. Hey, Gek, you spoke to my

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend Bryce and I on Valentine's Day earlier this year.

1:38:47.240 --> 1:38:49.600
<v Speaker 2>We were the couple who called in while sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>a car outside the art museum. I fully, I not

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<v Speaker 2>only fully remember this phone call, but I often think

1:38:57.479 --> 1:39:01.320
<v Speaker 2>of it. Actually, I often think think of it. We

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<v Speaker 2>were the couple who called in while sitting in a

1:39:03.560 --> 1:39:06.559
<v Speaker 2>car outside the art museum. Thought to send a cute

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<v Speaker 2>little update. We both cherish that episode. One thing I

1:39:11.000 --> 1:39:12.600
<v Speaker 2>liked about this couple is I remember they were a

1:39:12.600 --> 1:39:15.960
<v Speaker 2>little bit older and they were on like a What

1:39:16.120 --> 1:39:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I liked I remember I liked this episode because these

1:39:18.040 --> 1:39:20.120
<v Speaker 2>two they were a little bit older, and yet they

1:39:20.120 --> 1:39:24.080
<v Speaker 2>were on a very teenage date. Like I remember being

1:39:24.160 --> 1:39:25.920
<v Speaker 2>sixteen and I was on a date with a girl,

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<v Speaker 2>like sitting in a car in a parking lot, and

1:39:29.400 --> 1:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>it just it feels like, you know, you have moments

1:39:32.080 --> 1:39:33.439
<v Speaker 2>like that where you're like, all right, well that was

1:39:33.479 --> 1:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>all in high school, that's all gone. And I was

1:39:36.040 --> 1:39:37.400
<v Speaker 2>talking to these two and I was like, oh shit,

1:39:37.400 --> 1:39:39.439
<v Speaker 2>they're they're still doing it, you know, So I thought

1:39:39.439 --> 1:39:43.720
<v Speaker 2>it was cool. Okay. As a refresher, me and my

1:39:43.720 --> 1:39:47.439
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend met in January of this year through hinge. Bryce

1:39:47.479 --> 1:39:50.280
<v Speaker 2>had asked me to be official in March, and our

1:39:50.320 --> 1:39:53.479
<v Speaker 2>relationship has grown so much since we last spoke to you.

1:39:53.960 --> 1:39:57.519
<v Speaker 2>We've traveled together, met family members, connected on a very

1:39:57.520 --> 1:40:00.880
<v Speaker 2>emotional level, and we can both confidently say that we've

1:40:00.960 --> 1:40:05.760
<v Speaker 2>never felt safer with anyone before. I love that. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>these guys met when they were twenty nine or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. For all you young folks out there afraid

1:40:13.760 --> 1:40:17.799
<v Speaker 2>you'll never find love. In our episode, we had briefly

1:40:17.800 --> 1:40:20.519
<v Speaker 2>spoke about how many tribulations it took to find each other.

1:40:20.760 --> 1:40:22.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm writing this not only as a form of a

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<v Speaker 2>love letter, but I also wanted anyone in the dating

1:40:25.400 --> 1:40:28.160
<v Speaker 2>scene who hears slash reads this to feel inspired to

1:40:28.240 --> 1:40:31.599
<v Speaker 2>keep putting this themselves out there. I'd like to see

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<v Speaker 2>this as a pay it forward because there was a

1:40:33.800 --> 1:40:36.599
<v Speaker 2>force in my life who inspired me to keep putting

1:40:36.640 --> 1:40:40.400
<v Speaker 2>myself out there despite feeling hopeless toward dating. And if

1:40:40.400 --> 1:40:42.640
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't for that, I would not have what I

1:40:42.720 --> 1:40:45.080
<v Speaker 2>have today. So if you happen to read this, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you and thank you for all you do. Much love,

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<v Speaker 2>take care at least. Wow, that's a great email to

1:40:50.640 --> 1:40:56.240
<v Speaker 2>end on. It's tough, man, it's tough. The apps are

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<v Speaker 2>a grind. You know. Real life is tricky. It's hard.

1:41:01.920 --> 1:41:05.920
<v Speaker 2>It's hard for men and women out there, and I

1:41:05.960 --> 1:41:08.200
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people they get a little disillusioned,

1:41:09.600 --> 1:41:13.839
<v Speaker 2>especially if you know things haven't happened at certain periods

1:41:13.880 --> 1:41:16.439
<v Speaker 2>of time where you may have expected them to have happened.

1:41:19.640 --> 1:41:22.120
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I don't know. I've talked about this on

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<v Speaker 2>here before. My parents are divorced and they're both remarried,

1:41:27.920 --> 1:41:30.320
<v Speaker 2>and they got divorced when they were in their fucking

1:41:30.760 --> 1:41:33.680
<v Speaker 2>h I want to say my parents got divorced in

1:41:33.720 --> 1:41:39.320
<v Speaker 2>like they're mid or late forties, and they're both remarried.

1:41:39.439 --> 1:41:41.960
<v Speaker 2>And the people that my parents are remarried to, my

1:41:41.960 --> 1:41:47.760
<v Speaker 2>stepmom and my stepdad are significantly better matches for them

1:41:47.800 --> 1:41:53.800
<v Speaker 2>than each other. I mean shit, I think my dad

1:41:54.400 --> 1:41:58.519
<v Speaker 2>met my step mom when he was fucking forty nine

1:41:58.640 --> 1:42:02.760
<v Speaker 2>or forty eight, forty six, and they've they have a

1:42:02.800 --> 1:42:05.160
<v Speaker 2>great relationship. They've been together for a while. My mom

1:42:05.240 --> 1:42:07.519
<v Speaker 2>met my stepdad when she was at a similar age.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been together for you know, they have a great relationship.

1:42:10.479 --> 1:42:18.479
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I agree. Just keep putting yourself out there. Life, life, life. Okay, Well,

1:42:18.600 --> 1:42:20.679
<v Speaker 2>this was a fun podcast. This was a good one.

1:42:21.600 --> 1:42:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Mason, Shout out to Cora. Thank you

1:42:25.880 --> 1:42:29.479
<v Speaker 2>guys for calling, Thank you guys for emailing, Thank you

1:42:29.479 --> 1:42:35.840
<v Speaker 2>guys for listening. Oh I am folks listening on Spotify

1:42:37.600 --> 1:42:43.160
<v Speaker 2>or on any podcast form, although mainly Spotify. I'm gonna

1:42:43.200 --> 1:42:45.920
<v Speaker 2>be I So this is the last thing I'll say

1:42:45.920 --> 1:42:49.479
<v Speaker 2>before we go. I made this video. I don't know

1:42:49.520 --> 1:42:56.840
<v Speaker 2>if you guys remember a caller named Diego from an

1:42:56.880 --> 1:43:02.320
<v Speaker 2>episode back in December of twenty twenty four or twenty

1:43:02.360 --> 1:43:08.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty three, But there was a caller there's this guy

1:43:08.080 --> 1:43:11.920
<v Speaker 2>who called me on the show from Tijuana and we

1:43:12.000 --> 1:43:16.360
<v Speaker 2>talked about the Tijuana breakdance scene. And I went to

1:43:16.400 --> 1:43:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Tijuana a couple months ago to meet him in real life.

1:43:21.240 --> 1:43:28.200
<v Speaker 2>And I made this little travelogue documentary video and actually,

1:43:28.240 --> 1:43:30.080
<v Speaker 2>if you want to watch it on YouTube, it'll be

1:43:30.120 --> 1:43:32.680
<v Speaker 2>It's out right now on my YouTube channel YouTube dot

1:43:32.720 --> 1:43:35.800
<v Speaker 2>com slash Lyle Forever. But I'm also gonna try to

1:43:35.880 --> 1:43:41.440
<v Speaker 2>post it on here on Spotify as like a video

1:43:41.640 --> 1:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>podcast episode on Friday, so look out for that. But

1:43:48.920 --> 1:43:50.280
<v Speaker 2>if also, if you want to just watch it right now,

1:43:50.280 --> 1:43:52.640
<v Speaker 2>you can watch it on my YouTube YouTube dot com

1:43:52.720 --> 1:43:55.920
<v Speaker 2>slash Lyle Forever. It should be out by the time

1:43:55.960 --> 1:44:03.800
<v Speaker 2>this podcast episode is out. Anything else that's it. Go

1:44:03.840 --> 1:44:05.760
<v Speaker 2>watch that documentary. I hope. I want you guys to

1:44:05.800 --> 1:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>watch it because I worked hard on it and I

1:44:08.360 --> 1:44:12.440
<v Speaker 2>want to make more of them, and if you watch it,

1:44:12.439 --> 1:44:15.120
<v Speaker 2>it will it will make it so that I can

1:44:15.160 --> 1:44:18.400
<v Speaker 2>make more around the world. Maybe I'll visit other callers.

1:44:19.360 --> 1:44:21.439
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'll go to Kenya, maybe I'll go to Brazil,

1:44:21.479 --> 1:44:22.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll go to the Middle East. I want to

1:44:23.000 --> 1:44:27.160
<v Speaker 2>do all that shit. Okay, I'm done ranting. I gotta

1:44:27.160 --> 1:44:29.639
<v Speaker 2>get off. I gotta get out of here. But uh, okay,

1:44:30.320 --> 1:44:34.439
<v Speaker 2>see you guys soon. Thank you. Hello, folks, it's Lyle here.

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<v Speaker 4>But I did want to tell a story about the

1:45:16.040 --> 1:45:20.760
<v Speaker 4>first time I did acid. Okay hit me, and I

1:45:20.800 --> 1:45:23.760
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't say I ended up in Narnia. I felt like

1:45:23.920 --> 1:45:31.080
<v Speaker 4>all of my bones disconnected, like individually, and we're rotating

1:45:31.320 --> 1:45:37.639
<v Speaker 4>like long waves inside of my skin. Like you don't

1:45:37.680 --> 1:45:40.320
<v Speaker 4>know exactly how to explain it, but not like circular,

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<v Speaker 2>That's therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. All right, I

1:46:00.479 --> 1:46:02.679
<v Speaker 2>have nothing else to say there.

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<v Speaker 3>Rep Ken goes on the line taking your phone calls

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<v Speaker 3>every night.

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<v Speaker 2>The RepA Can goes doing his ride. He's teaching you

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<v Speaker 2>to loud in the lid of your life, but he's

1:46:12.040 --> 1:46:14.479
<v Speaker 2>not really an expert.