1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by invisi Line, 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison. 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: Huh, April Folds, Welcome two Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: by Invisiline. We're live here at the SWBC podcast studio, 10 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: joined here by Brie and Aisha. Sorry for the late start, y'all. 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 3: We had some technical difficulties to get. 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: To this point. But we're here. We're a little we're 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: a little winded. Walk in a fresh air. We're good. Yeah, 14 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 4: all is well? All as well? 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 5: Now. 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: We tried to do a little prank on Asha. 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 6: Worked out. 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 7: I was like, what I say? 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 8: What I say? 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 9: What I say? 21 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: No one told you were a hosting today. 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 7: They ain't in my ministry. 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: All right, well, free, thank you for being here today. 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: We missed you last week. Our girl's been covering uh some. 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: Pretty important stuff you may or may not have heard about. 26 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: You got back from Birmingham, Alabama. Uh literally this morning. 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: So how was that? 28 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 6: It was great? It was fantastic. 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 10: I caught it early flight, changed in an early flight 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 10: because I didn't want to miss two weeks because I've 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 10: been seeing Cowboys station. 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 6: Going crazy on there. 33 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 10: But March Madness, I was covering the women's bracket in Birmingham. 34 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 6: Region three. 35 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 10: South Carolina of course, is headed to the Final four 36 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 10: once again. It was so cool to see them in 37 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 10: their element. But obviously I was there to cover Texas 38 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 10: first TCU. 39 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 6: It was so big for the state. 40 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 10: You guys see all these women athletes, most of those 41 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 10: starters on both sides are going to be declaring for 42 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 10: the draft, and. 43 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 6: It's just amazing. And it just women empowerment. 44 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 10: I mean, it speaks to what we're doing here right 45 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 10: were for women to every week talking football. 46 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 6: I love it. I loved where I was at. 47 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 10: Congratulations to the Longhorns as the first time going to 48 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 10: the Final four since two thousand and three. 49 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 6: Big Schaeffer did that. It was emotional, he was crying. 50 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 6: It was great. You love the tears, you love the passion. 51 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 10: But like I said, I'm glad to be here with 52 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 10: you and covering the Cowboys. 53 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 4: Well, girl, we love having you back. 54 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: We missed you. Next week, we did our own version 55 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: of March Madness. Girls Talkboys Talk style last week not. 56 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 9: A little bit of that real fun, brack, real fun. 57 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: But this week, as you guys know, it is April 58 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: Fool's Day, so you have to be a little wary 59 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: of the information that you're getting today. 60 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 4: But what was not a joke was Jerry. 61 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: Jones talking to the media at the owner's meeting today 62 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: and he had a. 63 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 4: Lot to say, ladies. 64 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 3: As we know, our group chat was blown up today 65 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: of new updates pretty frequently this morning, so let's get 66 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: right to it. One of the main, if not the 67 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: main topic that was brought up, was obviously the status 68 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: of Michael Parsons contract and the new deal. 69 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 4: How that's going play, sat. 70 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: Let's listen to a SoundBite of what Jerry said, then 71 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: we'll get into it a little bit more. 72 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 5: Well, I know that I've spent five six hours with 73 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 5: him myself and had a lot of discussions. Most of 74 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 5: the issues we are in agreement on and I've discussed 75 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 5: it all and so, but we obviously don't have an 76 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 5: agreement relative to a new contract. Michael was under contract 77 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 5: and so we'll see how that goes It's not uncommon 78 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 5: for me to visit directly with players, and in this 79 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 5: particular case, that's the way I'm doing it. 80 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: Well, shout out to our friend John Machoda for these 81 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: videos that he was posting on Twitter. Now, ladies, that 82 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: sounds interesting enough, right, like he's kind of alluding to 83 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: direct conversations. 84 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: But then Jerry kind of continued to go on and 85 00:03:59,040 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: said this. 86 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 5: And I really, are you kidding me? That's just not 87 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 5: something that you should worry about. You should be worrying 88 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: about your ability to make it work, and you should 89 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 5: be worried about what the player does. Does he have 90 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 5: good enough health, does he have enough skill to do 91 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 5: what you're paying him? The money for the agent is 92 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 5: not a factory here or something to worry about. And 93 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 5: I don't know his name. And so my point is 94 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 5: that I'm not trying to demean you in any way, 95 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 5: but this isn't about an agent. The agent doesn't have 96 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 5: one thing to do with what we're doing when we 97 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 5: get on a football field against the team Mica does. 98 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 5: To the degree I'm involved, I do the people that 99 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 5: have something to do with what we do going forward 100 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 5: relative to our fans in football or me and the player, 101 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 5: not the agent. And I'm not demeaning the agent. I'm 102 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 5: just saying, but anybody can do this, and let's hold 103 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 5: directly to a player. And frankly, frankly, most people that 104 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 5: negotiate me will tell you that it was so it 105 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 5: was better off than negotiating with them, anybody saving or 106 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 5: anybody involved. So this is not uncommon vision directly with 107 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 5: as far back as them it Dion Uh and we, 108 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 5: by the way, maintained relationship that lasted well after their 109 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: playing days, and. 110 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: To put contacts to that, he was pretty much asked 111 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: if he's been in contact with Micah's agent, to which 112 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: about let's see. 113 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 4: Two minutes ago. 114 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: Three minutes ago, Michael Parsons tweeted out about this quote, 115 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: tweeting Clarence Hill's tweet, he said, facts, David is the best. 116 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: David's his agent, and I will not be doing any 117 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: deal without tagging David involved, like anyone with good sense. 118 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 3: I hired experts for a reason. There's no one I 119 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: trust more when it comes to negotiating contracts than David. 120 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: There will be no back doors in this contract negotiation. 121 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 3: Preach ladies' thoughts on this whole song this morning because 122 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: it was a little bit of a rollercoaster, if you will. 123 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 6: It's a lot to unpack. 124 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 10: I'm glad Micah said something about it because the first 125 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 10: thing I wrote before we even got here was Clarence's 126 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 10: tweet about record contract without his agent involved, And I'm like, Okay, 127 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 10: I'm in a business where I signed contracts that have 128 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 10: nothing anything close to what Micah Parson's is about to make. 129 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 10: But I still don't go into that room without my 130 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 10: agent and write. I'm not, like I said, nothing is 131 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 10: touching what Mike is about to make, right. So it 132 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 10: was just kind of like, I think I've only been 133 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 10: covering the Cowboys going on my second season. Jerry's Jerry, Okay, 134 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 10: everything is going to do what it does, so the 135 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 10: Cowboys stay where they're at, and that is at pretty 136 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 10: much to national headlines. Right We're talking about a team 137 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 10: who's coming off a losing season, and guess who the 138 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 10: national media is talking about every single time. When I 139 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 10: saw Micah Parsons it was quoted contract has no urgency, 140 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 10: I was like, I'm not biting, not doing it. Did 141 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 10: it with you guys last off season with the seeding lamb? 142 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 10: He doesn't mean it for that part. We know this 143 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 10: is urgent, we know this is a priority. We know 144 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 10: they want him to be a cowboy. They will know 145 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 10: who want to retire him as a cowboy. But they 146 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 10: also know that his price is going up. They know 147 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 10: they're going to have to meet at least what Miles 148 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 10: Garrett has got paid. Okay, there's a new market, and 149 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 10: as much as Cowboys fans and a lot of us 150 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 10: in this building want it to feel like there's a deadline, 151 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 10: there really isn't. 152 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 6: Okay. 153 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 10: He's contracted to still have a full year with this 154 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 10: team regardless, and Mica is just sitting back be kicked 155 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 10: up and letting the price go up. That's how I like, 156 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 10: I'm not biting too much into it. Yes, this would 157 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 10: be great if it was done already, but I don't 158 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 10: think this is getting done before the draft. I don't 159 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 10: even think it's getting done before camp starts, to be honest, 160 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 10: I think they're going to kind of press and see 161 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 10: is he going to do all the things he said 162 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 10: he was going to do at the end of the season, 163 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 10: And that's showing up to stuff that he normally doesn't 164 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 10: because he says that's it's nothing against anything, but he 165 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 10: doesn't really typically go to the voluntary OTAs and all 166 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 10: those such, but he said he would, So I think 167 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 10: they're gonna sit back also and see if he does that. 168 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 6: What do you think? Huh huh, I. 169 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 4: Know it's the lots of the back Ye's associated. 170 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 11: I mean what I think initially hearing the commentary, insert 171 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 11: the Nick Young meme, huh, this ain't. 172 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 6: Got nothing to do with the agent. 173 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 7: The agent is not important. Since when? 174 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 11: Since when our agent's not intricate to these contract talks 175 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 11: and the things that go on. 176 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 7: So that whole thing was odd. It is. 177 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 11: Here's the thing about contracts and this how it's always 178 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 11: been explained to me, is that players are playing when 179 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 11: they get paid, they get paid for what they've done, 180 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 11: not for what they are going to do. He has 181 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 11: done more than enough. It is frustrating. It really is 182 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 11: frustrating me because to me, I understand, you know, the 183 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 11: give and take, the conversations, the negotiations, I understand all 184 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 11: those things. But when I earn something, I earned it 185 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 11: like it shouldn't be this back and forth and all 186 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 11: this stuff that's going on, and I just I don't. 187 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 11: I don't particularly like the commentary regarding the agent personally, 188 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 11: I don't because to act like they're not important to 189 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 11: what's happening right now and things like that, that to 190 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 11: me is not realistic about what this is, how this goes, 191 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 11: and how this works. 192 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 7: In regard to. 193 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 11: Micah coming to the voluntary workouts and all that stuff, 194 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 11: all right, whatever, I mean, so he who's who's a 195 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 11: left tackle? Are we gonna get plays off? 196 00:09:59,440 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 4: Like? 197 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 11: I'm not trying to be funny, but it's like, yeah, 198 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 11: he goes fish, you have bigger fish to fry. And 199 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 11: the thing is is that when Michael goes and he 200 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 11: isn't at voluntary workouts, it's not that he's not working, 201 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 11: it's not that he's not training, it's not that he's 202 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 11: not doing anything. But we already know also too he 203 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 11: is a level of athlete that is continuing. I enjoy 204 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 11: the fact that he's trying to continue to get better. 205 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 7: Is there something be said about him. 206 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 11: Being connected to the team and and players other players 207 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 11: feeling like he needs to be present, Fine, sure, whatever, 208 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 11: But what he has to prove himself in that regard 209 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 11: is that is that what we're saying is that what 210 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 11: we're saying, we're gonna wait and see if he comes 211 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 11: to voluntary workouts to see if he's really engaged and stuff. 212 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 7: This is I mean we see on trial. What is this? 213 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's interesting because Breed to your point, he's 214 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: never done that, and that's not anything shocking, but yet 215 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 3: it continues to make headlines. 216 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 7: At and a lot of players don't. 217 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: And and to be fair, he's doing other things to 218 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: train in that time that he's gone. And we know 219 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 3: that based on things he says, based on things other 220 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: people have said, he's getting into offensive line genius's minds 221 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: to see how they think how he can be better. 222 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: What was he doing sumo wrestling last offseason? I mean, 223 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: this man's doing different things to better his art and 224 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: better his skill here. So it's not like he's just 225 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: sitting around on the couch hanging out not doing anything right, 226 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: So I think this is such an interesting wave to 227 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: to say out loud that you know, they're kind of 228 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: going through negotiations with each other. And and Jerry did 229 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: mention that Micah is one of the only people he 230 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: gave his cell phone number two. He said, quote, one 231 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: of the three individuals that has my cell number. He 232 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: asked for it about a month ago. I want to 233 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: be able to talk to you at any time. I said, Micah, 234 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 3: you're one of the few. But well, but we'll talk anytime. 235 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: Call me there, just to call you. 236 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 9: Can we talk? 237 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 11: Like I personally think it's it right now, I'm bothered. 238 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 11: I'm starting I'm by I'm starting to think there's more 239 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 11: to what's going on because we looked at this contract. 240 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 11: This conversation is very cut and dry. He's one of 241 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 11: the best. You pay the best, but with this this 242 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 11: some of this conversation and the phone numbers and the 243 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 11: bringing up the agent and the I'm not demeaning, but 244 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 11: I kindam the agent. What is there something else going 245 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 11: on that we don't know as far as like what 246 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 11: they are looking for from Micah? 247 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 7: Because I feel just about his play, I don't understand. 248 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 6: I will say this. 249 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 9: You know why I'm not getting worked up and I'm not. 250 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 10: Frustrated is because this is what the cowboys. Oh, don't 251 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 10: say that, and this isn't a bad thing. The two 252 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 10: things that listen Zach Martin's retirement. What did Jerry go 253 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 10: off there say? He said, I've never never spoken to 254 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 10: Zach Martin's agent to get a deal done. 255 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 6: I've always gone through Zach Martin. 256 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 7: Oh arnacles. 257 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 10: He also said at the end of the season, yes, 258 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 10: I like my coaching staff, I like Mike McCarthy, all 259 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 10: this kind of stuff, right, But he also said he 260 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 10: has the option to talk to these teams. I want 261 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 10: to see if he's loyal. Basically, remember that, this is 262 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 10: why I'm not. 263 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 7: Getting worked up. This is what Jerry Jones does. 264 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 10: And then I don't even think it's like to people 265 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 10: on the outside and to the other thirty one organizations, 266 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 10: it's weird. But working here and being alongside Jerry and 267 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 10: seeing how it works, I'm almost accustomed to it because 268 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 10: I don't see it as disrespect or what have you. 269 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 10: This is how he does business and he is not 270 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 10: going to shy away and he's not going to do 271 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 10: things differently. This is Jerry Jones's team and this is 272 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 10: how they're going to do it. He's going to do 273 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 10: things that are out of the box. 274 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. Yeah, but does that make it right 275 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: because here's my thay, Zach. 276 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: Baron, no disrespect to Zach Martin, go we miss you already. 277 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 3: That's different generation of football and this is the new 278 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: millennial generation coming in here that is not going to 279 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: sit around and have to take pay cuts and have 280 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: to you know, take side roads to get what they deserve. 281 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 3: Listen to what Jordan Lewis just said when he left 282 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: that he didn't want to have to take a pay 283 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: cut to stay here. And I don't think that that 284 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: should be the case every year, that you just rely 285 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: on the fact that you are the Dallas Cowboys and 286 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: guys want to be here, because yeah, they do. And 287 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: and Micah is a player who has talked about he 288 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: just wants to play football, but it doesn't mean he 289 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: deserves to have to take less because that's how it 290 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: is here. 291 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 4: Like that's the whole issue, and that's I think it. 292 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: Just goes deeper than That's just how Jerry Jones is 293 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: because as a millennial myself, that mindset and that shift 294 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: of you know, the older generation doing that, that's a 295 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: big conversation, especially now, Like I know for me when 296 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: it comes to my paycheck, look, I want to take 297 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: what I deserve and I'm not putting my body on 298 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: the line like Micah par since his season in season now, 299 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: like y'all have to think of it as a perspective 300 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: of he is a human with a job with a 301 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: family with children, right, He's he's not just here. 302 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: It's not I. 303 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: Think that's why it's so upsetting to hear because it 304 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: just should be done already. Like this even goes back 305 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: for me as far as you knew this was coming. 306 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: Why is it just not like, why do you wait 307 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: until the last minute to get it done? 308 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: That's it's an itching point. 309 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 11: But you must have a good therapist because your emotional regulation. 310 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you said you pass that along over here. 311 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 7: You know, I'm not gonna let it stress me out yet. 312 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 11: Like I said, I I think we can sit in 313 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 11: and and say, like, have your feelings because I think 314 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 11: in the back of my mind I feel like that. 315 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, this had I do things so but 316 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 7: it also is just like but to what end? 317 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 11: Yeah, when you have a player like Michael Parson's, like, what. 318 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 7: Precedent are you setting? 319 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 6: They're gonna make him. They're gonna they're gonna pay a 320 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 6: new market. 321 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, they're gonna pay him. And that's what Jared was saying, like, yeah, 322 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 11: we intend to pay him. We know we're gonna there's 323 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 11: gonna be a deal. Like let's just really know that 324 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 11: it's just gonna come at a weird time, were gonna 325 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 11: be have other things going on, it's gonna. 326 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 7: Be breaking news. 327 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: It's just to me if you if you want to 328 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: just be about football and winning, you get rid of 329 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: the distractions and the outside noise and you. 330 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 6: Just do that. 331 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: The directions sell you just well, you just get the 332 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,479 Speaker 4: deal done. Working in the media, they do girl bye. 333 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: But the point you just get it done. 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We do have a SoundBite not to drag 411 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 3: this whole Micah conversation out, but he did speak on 412 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 3: Micah's contract and kind of like what they expect from 413 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: him going forward. 414 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 4: So, Chris, if you don't mind playing that, we would 415 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: love you forever even though we already will. 416 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 7: Mhm, it's playing. 417 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 9: It's not playing. 418 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: Oh no, okay, that's okay. Let's let's go over the 419 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: bullet points of it. Thank you, Chris, we still love you. 420 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 3: But it does say that he said, at the end 421 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: of the day, this is business. Things like this take time, 422 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: and Micah said he will still be around. So I 423 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: don't think y'all can expect any holdout situation. Doesn't sound 424 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: like it, y'all if y'all were wanting that, that's not 425 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: the direction things were sounding like they're going in. 426 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: So there's that. As far as. 427 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 3: Draft Shoty did talk about that, he said he talked 428 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 3: about you'll love this. Ah's talking about taking the best 429 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: player available, that that always feels like the best way 430 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: to go. That they feel like they're not done yet 431 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: with what they've done, you know, during free agency going 432 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: into draft. Oh okay, let's reverse back, pretend I didn't 433 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: say any of that, talking about Yeah, you. 434 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 5: Guys know me. 435 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 15: He looks at the end of the day, this business 436 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 15: and when you're dealing with, you know, the money that's 437 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 15: being tossed around, not just to Mike it but with 438 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 15: with the big name players, negotiations sometimes take care of 439 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 15: I feel very comfortable Mike. 440 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: You said he's going to be around. 441 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 3: I think that's what he wants to be. 442 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: I think we're all very comfortable with that. 443 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 15: And at the end of the day, he's a great player, 444 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 15: and uh, you know, we think he's just getting started, 445 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 15: to be honest with you, so I have no no, 446 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 15: no question in my mind, you. 447 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 3: Gonna be around. That's the ladies. 448 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 11: There needs to be a study done on how at 449 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 11: the end of the day gets input into everyone's vocabulary 450 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 11: that works here. 451 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: At the end of the day, you're gonna start saying 452 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: it too, like you're gonna not understand and realize that 453 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: you're just setting at the end of the day. 454 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 4: When you start walking in this building, you just start 455 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 4: saying it. 456 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 7: It's gonna get you. 457 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 11: I mean, obviously, Brian Scheinheimer is driving the ship at 458 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 11: this point, so if he and Mike have had conversations 459 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 11: and he believes Mike is going to be here like 460 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 11: they said before, he is technically still under contract, so yeah, 461 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 11: I guess just do what you gotta do. 462 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 3: And thoughts on his uh talk about taking Bpa in 463 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 3: the draft. 464 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 10: That's my favorite. That's my favorite. 465 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 7: I mean, I mean the Cowboys a obviously in a 466 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 7: unique spot. 467 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 11: I think somebody asked me last week, like, who do 468 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 11: you think they're gonna pick? I'm like, listen, I think 469 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 11: it could be a wide receiver, a corner, a defensive end. 470 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 11: I think it could be any number of things. They 471 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 11: have so many positions they. 472 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 7: Need to fill. So for me, but they did say 473 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 7: that I think I did. 474 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 11: Hear one of them mentioned explosive, looking for an explosive 475 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 11: player for their wide receiver two spot. And it's we've 476 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 11: talked about it for years now that Ceedee Lamb needs 477 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 11: a number two that people are gonna respect as well, 478 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 11: so they can take some pressure off of him. If 479 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 11: that is their intent moving forward. I actually tweet it 480 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 11: like it sounds like they're gonna develop the guys they 481 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 11: have here. They're still talking about Mingo, still talking about 482 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 11: Jalen Tobert Flornoy, all those gentlemen, but they still want 483 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 11: to continue to try to get someone in the draft. 484 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 11: I think there's gonna be quite a few guys there 485 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 11: that are going to help this team. So if it's 486 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 11: a wide receiver, y'all, I'm a fight. Want it on 487 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 11: draft night? Oh, I'm a fight. 488 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 7: I'm gonna be ecstatic if it's a wide receive. 489 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 11: If it's a wide receiver, I just don't think we 490 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 11: can state how much that's gonna open up your offense. 491 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 11: If a young guy comes here and you need immediate impact, correct. 492 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 7: Like the media impact. 493 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 6: So I'm happy with it. 494 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 7: You do the BPA. Whatever the guess may be. 495 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 4: Are you heart set on a specific position or. 496 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we need more than others. 497 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 10: When I'm sitting down, I'm looking at the draft. The 498 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 10: Cowboys are in a unique position because there's not maybe 499 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 10: one position, one position group. 500 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 6: I'd be like, what are we doing? But there's so many. 501 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 10: Needs, right, So yeah, I think I agree, you know, 502 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 10: best player available, that's what you want. 503 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 6: And I like that they're thinking that way. 504 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 10: They're not going in set like, Okay, we have to 505 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 10: have this because you guys really could spread around. But 506 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 10: I want to see what the Cowboys identity is as 507 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 10: a team, because when I look at the team like 508 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 10: the Bengals, it's pretty clear what their identity is and 509 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 10: why they can be that right. They are this offensive 510 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 10: minded team that they know they paid who they need 511 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 10: to pay, and they're going to be slinging that ball 512 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 10: downfield and their defense if it does not match their offense, 513 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 10: going to pick them up. So I'm trying to look 514 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 10: at this team now that there is an offensive minded 515 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 10: head coach that came in who has this all this 516 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 10: coaching staff that are pretty adamant that they're going to 517 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 10: run the ball and that is going to be part 518 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 10: of their identity, which was not last year. I'm really 519 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 10: interested to see how invested they are making that work. 520 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 10: I'm a little scared when I say that, because when 521 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 10: you have an offensive lineman type of vibe of a 522 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 10: coach and you just retired Zach Martin and you have the. 523 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 6: Number twelve pick, I'm knocking. I'm looking at Ash's face. 524 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 10: I'm not gonna be surprised if they addressed that early on, 525 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 10: only because I feel like that position group, if you 526 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 10: do let it go further, you're not going You're taking 527 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 10: a chance. I know I'm saying it, but I just 528 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 10: I wouldn't be surprised. I might throw up because I 529 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 10: don't want to see that. I would love for them 530 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 10: to get that explosive number two wide receiver. 531 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 9: But yes, you think they're gonna go off as a line. 532 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 7: That is what you're saying to me. 533 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 10: I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised 534 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 10: because they right now, that group it's young and exciting 535 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 10: for the coaches they just brought, and I just think 536 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 10: that's their emphasis. 537 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 7: I want them to do it. I don't want them 538 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 7: to do it. 539 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 11: I want them to find value in the later rounds. 540 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 7: I want them to develop. 541 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 11: I've seen Clayton Adams work with not first round picks. 542 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 11: They had one on their freaking offensive line and the Cardinals, 543 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 11: yet they were still efficient. 544 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 7: Like, you need to use that for skill positions. 545 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 11: I'm sorry, your top three picks need to be skill positions. 546 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 7: I can't take it no much. 547 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 3: I want a new shiny toy, That's what I want. 548 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 3: I want a star wide receiver or a star running back. 549 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: I beg, here's the thing. 550 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. 551 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: As much as I feel like, yeah, the offensive line 552 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 3: needs depth, yeah, I just feel I would feel more 553 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 3: comfortable with the offensive game plan. You know, shoddy or 554 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 3: not whoever was the coach. I always just wanted somebody 555 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 3: at that two spot in the world receiver room solidified. 556 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: Done. 557 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about it because it's a 558 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 3: constant conversation and it's been for two years of Jalen Tolbert, 559 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 3: Jalen Brooks, Avante Trippin. I just think at this point 560 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 3: you kind of know where they are in that lineup. 561 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 4: And that's okay. 562 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: They can still have value, Like, don't get it twisted. 563 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 3: I think each of these guys in that wide receiver 564 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 3: room can have value in their own way and their 565 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: own skill set. However, I just think you need a 566 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 3: solidified number two and a free agency obviously works at 567 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: the time to everyone. 568 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 11: Oh, I'm for a wide receiver running back with receiving capabilities. 569 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 9: Unicorn, but the wide receiver too. 570 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 7: You mentioned the Bengals, T Higgins, JAMR. Chase. You mentioned 571 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 7: Philly Davante Adams and what is that man's name? What 572 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 7: is that man's name? 573 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 4: Are you still in Philly? 574 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 575 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 7: Why his name slipped me? 576 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 5: Like that? 577 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 9: Who's the wide receiver one Brown? 578 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 4: I didn't know where you were going with House. 579 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 11: I was like, hopefullanners have Terry McLaurin. And then who 580 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 11: didn't they just sign someone do a free agency? 581 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 7: They signed a lot of people, girl hater Todts. 582 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 9: Anyway, your point one, we get to get everybody. 583 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 6: Everybody got a one two. 584 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 7: The one in the two, so you need the two. 585 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 7: It's just time. So all right, these games, well. 586 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: We're gonna take our next break. When we come back, 587 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: we're going to talk a little bit more about what 588 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: Shoddy said about the offensive line updates who could be 589 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 3: at center. 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I almost say it's so good 666 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 11: my credit card bill. 667 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 4: But it was worth it every second. Oh my goodness. 668 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: Okay, let's get back to it a ya. All right, ladies, 669 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 3: we kind of left him now. I'm hungry, uh with 670 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: what Sety was talking about earlier today and yesterday. 671 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 4: I believe about the offensive line. 672 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 9: Brie. 673 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 3: You had sent this out in the group chat, and 674 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: it was an interesting little nugget kind of about the future. 675 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 4: Pretend I have like a little ball of. 676 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 6: Future right here, pulling it up now. 677 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm killing time and so I'm looking 678 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: into the future of what Bran Shatnenheimer says the offensive 679 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: line will look like, specifically at center, and he said. 680 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 10: Cooper bebe at center is the plan right now. He 681 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 10: had this to say about brock Hoffin can be a 682 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 10: seventeen game starter at right guard. I would never bet 683 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 10: against brock Kaffman. 684 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 6: Brockh Hoffman Man. 685 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 10: If I was a back room of a bar, I 686 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 10: had to get out the way he's wired, he would 687 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 10: be one of the first guys I'd want with me. 688 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 6: What do you think? 689 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 4: Wow, yee huh, yeehaw, that's my first one. 690 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it? 691 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 4: Are you sure? 692 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 5: Uh? 693 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 7: What do I think about it? I'm okay with it. 694 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 11: I understand that a lot of people I watched Cooper 695 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 11: Beb's tape, Beamer, you know how much we liked Cooper 696 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 11: by coming out in the draft as a guard. However, 697 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 11: he has taken on the challenge of learning center and 698 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 11: for how much they took him through last year with 699 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 11: perfecting that, perfecting his snaps and getting better, I understand 700 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 11: that interchangeability is something that has become valuable in the NFL, 701 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 11: but we also have to also value development and what 702 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 11: changing positions does to development and that it can stifle 703 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 11: and things like that. 704 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 7: So for me, and as in regard to brock. 705 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 11: Hoffman, yeah, I think brock Hoffman is an adequate starter. 706 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 7: I do. I think he's an adequate starter. His temperament fits. 707 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 11: I think he is going to help you out in 708 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 11: the run game, especially getting to the second level on 709 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 11: some of those things. So I'm okay with it. And 710 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,239 Speaker 11: I think one thing, and this goes back to our 711 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 11: conversation earlier about the offensive lineman possibly being drafted, is 712 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 11: that you have to develop. You cannot depend on guys 713 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 11: coming in and being early round picks and that being 714 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 11: your bread and butter. This is a man that has 715 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 11: worked his way up and so it keeps the competition fresh. 716 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 11: It's fine to me. The sooner that they have a 717 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 11: solidified offensive line, the better is gonna be. 718 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 7: For the rest of the season. 719 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 11: Right, So for me, cool, if that's what they're gonna 720 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 11: run with, that's what they're gonna run with, and I 721 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 11: think that's enough. I think Clayton Adams is the coast, 722 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 11: has shown he can do enough with three high level 723 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 11: starters and then some other guys whatever the case gonna be. 724 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 11: So I'm cool with it for now. What does this 725 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 11: mean for TJ. Bass returning from a quad? Is he 726 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 11: gonna be your swing guard now? Because Hoffman kind of 727 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 11: filled in as your it does take a piece away. Yeah, 728 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 11: and maybe that's something you address. But Hoffman as the 729 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 11: starter is and something that scares me. What about you, ladies? 730 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I'm looking at the line and if 731 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 10: you're talking about the starting who would start today, like 732 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 10: who's the oldest alignment? Like, that's a young group, right 733 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 10: and to your point, developing and who they brought in 734 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 10: that's the exciting part. And then I'm just like, I'm 735 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 10: interested in Cooper BB Like, I know he came in 736 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 10: and he had to, you know, went through those rough 737 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 10: patches of learning a new position that he wasn't familiar 738 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 10: with in college. However, I would just like to know 739 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 10: what is he more comfortable with? Like I think that's 740 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 10: important too, especially when you're talking about developing in depth. 741 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 10: I think it matters like if you keep forcing someone 742 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 10: who isn't you know comfortabout that? So maybe at what 743 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 10: point could you try him somewhere else? 744 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 4: If that makes sense. 745 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 3: I think it speaks to how much they have they 746 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 3: trust the development he has made within a year, and 747 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 3: you know, in speaking to Cooper bby All last year 748 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 3: and you know those around him, he's really honed in 749 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 3: on what it is to be a center in the NFL. 750 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 3: And to be honest, I'm okay with him not moving 751 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 3: from that because you also have to remember the amount 752 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: of chemistry and just work going into being a center 753 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 3: and having a good rapport with your quarterback. 754 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,479 Speaker 4: That to me is so important. And Cooper and Dak 755 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 4: well not as much as we would have liked to 756 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 4: see them last season. 757 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: But they were building really really hard on that, and 758 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 3: so I think giving him another year to continue to 759 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: get better at that is the best route because I 760 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 3: do think in terms of kind of some of the 761 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 3: guys we've seen in recent times and moving positions and 762 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 3: then putting them back, it kind of it kind of 763 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 3: takes you back a year. Yeah, you know, not that 764 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 3: it's not valuable in a way, but I'm good with it. 765 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm fine with it for now. 766 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 6: Especially. 767 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 11: I think it was smart of them, of course to 768 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 11: get the coaching staff in here early, so the philosophies 769 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 11: and stuff can mesh Also too, we heard a shoddy 770 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 11: talk about working with the scouts, making sure he's communicating 771 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 11: with them. I'm sure they appreciate that. I'm sure they're 772 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 11: excited about being able to be a part of the 773 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 11: planning in that type of way. But as far as 774 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 11: what the Cowboys want to do, if they do want 775 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 11: to run the ball more, yeah, I think that Brockkaffman 776 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 11: has some improvement to make in the passing pass pro department. 777 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 11: But do you just find someone to replace that swing 778 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 11: guard situation or just an extra death piece maybe at 779 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 11: center or whatever the case may be, and go about 780 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 11: your business. Sure, But also too, we have to also 781 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 11: think like most teams don't have a whole starting offensive 782 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 11: line to back up they don't like I think we 783 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 11: have become accustomed to the fact that we have guys 784 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 11: that can plug and play, and that is a beautiful thing. 785 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 9: However, that's a luxury. 786 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 7: It's not a necessity. It's not so for me, cool 787 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 7: with it. Do what you gotta do. 788 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 11: With brock Hoffman, I think he's earned it, and I 789 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 11: think he's gonna continue to battle in camp as well. 790 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 7: Now, the tackle position is what we do need to 791 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 7: be talking. 792 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 6: About Yes, it's the attitude for me. 793 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 7: Boom boom boom. It's uh, it's not that scary, y'all, 794 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 7: don't freak out. Not that's scary. 795 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 3: No, it's it's not that it's scary, but it does 796 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 3: need to be better like that. 797 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 4: It's quickly, real quick. 798 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 3: I want to get into We have about five minutes 799 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 3: left of the show, so sad, I know you guys 800 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 3: are gonna miss us for a whole week. But there 801 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 3: were some rule changes that'll be going into effect this 802 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: uh season. I kind of wanted to get into them 803 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 3: and see how that's going to impact the Cowboys and 804 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 3: the current roster that we know that they have. 805 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 4: Something interesting is this? 806 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 3: Uh, I guess converses with the NFC East the NFL, 807 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 3: according to Jory Epstein love Jory so so much. She said, 808 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 3: the NFL has tabled its vote on whether to ban. 809 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 4: The tush push. You know that you knew this was 810 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 4: going to be a topic of conversation. 811 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 6: I think it's funny. 812 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 3: I don't know how do you feel about that, though, Like. 813 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 4: How do you feel how do you feel I hate 814 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 4: the toush push? 815 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 3: You know that? 816 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 4: Okay, well you stand it. 817 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 6: I just I just coming from Buffalo. 818 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 7: I mean that is. 819 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 10: If you look at who runs it the most of 820 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 10: the second team in the NFL, who runs it the 821 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 10: most outside of Philly. 822 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,479 Speaker 4: So I guess I'm a little bit biased because I've. 823 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 7: Seen it work. 824 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 10: I seen it, Yeah, push when it needed to to 825 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 10: get them where they But I don't know, like I 826 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 10: think I think it was Mike Tomlin who said it. 827 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 10: I kind of agree with what his sentiment on it. 828 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 10: You know, this game is evolving. You talked about earlier, 829 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 10: just about the players, like the contract situation, right, it's 830 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 10: not the same generation. It's the same with the game 831 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,959 Speaker 10: and the players as well. The coach is mine. Remember 832 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 10: how excited we were in the offseason about getting some 833 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 10: of these college coaches right, they see the game differently 834 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 10: and this organization needed that. And I think that is 835 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 10: with the push push whatever, right, Like that is kind 836 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 10: of how some of. 837 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 6: The coaches got outside the box. 838 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 10: They made it their thing and some some teams are 839 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 10: better at it than others. 840 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 6: Some utilize it more than others. 841 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,240 Speaker 10: So of course the ones who aren't, who are getting 842 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 10: on the other side, they don't like it, what have you. 843 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 10: I'm not I'm not totally you know, against it. 844 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 4: I do. 845 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 10: I forgot what game was that. I think the commanders 846 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 10: were involved, was it? Commanders and Phillies were like it 847 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 10: was just going back and forth and it was getting 848 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 10: out of out of hands. So like, I don't know 849 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 10: how you. I don't know how you regulate it. Thank goodness, 850 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 10: I don't make the rules. But I'm like, I'm not 851 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 10: totally like against it, but I I do think when 852 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 10: it's getting like excessive like that, like it's too much. 853 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, yeah. 854 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 11: For me, I'm very on the fence about it because 855 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 11: I do believe in football, if you find a competitive edge, 856 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 11: oh well, so be it. I feel I'm sorry to 857 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 11: this man. 858 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 7: I don't care. 859 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 9: Like, if that's how you do it, that's how you 860 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 9: do it. 861 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 11: I think coaches using creative ways to figure out how 862 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 11: to find. 863 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 7: A competitive advantage is something. 864 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 11: That we look for in this game. So it's not 865 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 11: something that I just hate. The part that makes it 866 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 11: difficult for me is the fact that it it's not 867 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 11: something you can practice, like you defensively, have no real 868 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 11: ways without harming yourselves because of the NFL and things 869 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 11: like that. During practices and things like that, there's no 870 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 11: way for a defensive side of the ball to perfect 871 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 11: how to defend this because in most situations they can't 872 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 11: practice it. And again that it may just be an 873 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 11: O weal thing like oh well you can't practice it 874 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 11: or whatever. But if it is it a competitive edge 875 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 11: if the perse if the teams you're competing against can't 876 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 11: practice it, can't perfect it, can't figure out how to 877 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 11: counter it. 878 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 7: Really, I don't know. I don't know, and I guess 879 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 7: it is kind. 880 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 11: Of like a rhetorical thing where it's like, yeah, maybe 881 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 11: it is it. I don't know how helpful it is 882 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 11: for the game as a whole, because it's not something 883 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 11: that other teams can carry or do or whatever the 884 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 11: case they be. You mentioned the Billsbury how successful were 885 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 11: there because Philly is like. 886 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 3: You know that, you know reason it's such a conversation 887 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 3: and I. 888 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 11: Think it's awesome that they took something rugged, you know, oriented, 889 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 11: and brought it into this league. It just shows how 890 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 11: we're kind of married and stuff. But at the same time, 891 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 11: if defensive players have no way to figure out how 892 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 11: to defend it, it's kind of just bad TV beat football. 893 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: I think that's why I have such a problem with 894 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: it is because there's no way to practice it, so 895 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 3: you're at higher risk of a defensive player getting injured trying. 896 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 6: To do it injuries as yet. 897 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 3: And that's what bothers me the most about it is, 898 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 3: you know, when you're talking in terms. 899 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 4: Of player safety, oh the no fun legal boo. 900 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 3: Look, guys, these are livelihoods of people that have to 901 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 3: come out and do this every day. And if you're 902 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 3: risking injury just for a touch push, like, to me, 903 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 3: that's not a good enough reason to keep it legal. 904 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 4: And to an extent, I think once in a game. 905 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 3: Sure, I maybe there's like a limit that they could 906 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 3: put on to how many touch pushes you can go 907 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 3: in a game. 908 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, that's too many touch pushes. But I think, yeah, 909 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 4: there's there's things above all. 910 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 10: I guess, yeah, these are men, These have families, and 911 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 10: I think that's my biggest thing. Hasn't done a better 912 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 10: job each year? You know, even with the new kickoffer, right, 913 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 10: that was the whole point. It was a safety thing. 914 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 10: So I'm more interested helmets when I speak about you know, 915 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 10: come from Buffalo and seeing it be successful and what 916 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 10: have you. I also would like to see the stats 917 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 10: just like they did last year with the kickoff returns, 918 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 10: and like, are how many people have actually had indianes? 919 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 10: Because at the end of the day, this is this 920 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 10: is football, right, You're going to have injuries, but if 921 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 10: it's a substantial amount and it's just coming from this, 922 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 10: then I agree, Like. 923 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 6: Above all, it's it's safety first. These are these are 924 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 6: human beings right. 925 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 3: So and one more thing, because you mentioned the new 926 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 3: kickoff role and that kind of stems from spring football, 927 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 3: which now has a little place in my heart. Stay 928 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 3: tuned for a fun announcement soon. 929 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 4: But I wanted to get into the NFL announcing. 930 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 3: The Sony Hawkeyes technology will be used next season to 931 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 3: electronically measure first downs officially now meaning that the chain 932 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 3: crew will remain on the sidelines for just in case purposes. 933 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 3: But when you have a fourth and inches, a third 934 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 3: and inches situation, we're going to continue to see that 935 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 3: technology come to life. And that's something that spring football does. 936 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 3: The UFL implements that. You know, it's fun to watch. 937 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 3: But what do you guys think of that? Did you 938 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,959 Speaker 3: like the games that you saw? I mean, I can't 939 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 3: recall of a specific situation where we had to depend 940 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 3: on it, but how do you feel about the technology 941 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 3: aspect coming into this game now, I'm you know, I think. 942 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 10: Kind of a lot of what people have been saying 943 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 10: on social media lea is what I've saw. 944 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 6: I think a lot of it's. 945 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 10: About time to say the game is evolving. We have technology, 946 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 10: yes that I've you know, even I covered the Triple 947 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 10: A team that was implementing it last year about calls 948 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 10: like there's just technology can do things that humans can't catch, 949 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 10: you know, like even last night March Madness. 950 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 7: I'm just like, how do. 951 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 6: You not see that? 952 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 9: Right? 953 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 10: Like it's those kind of calls, And it's also if 954 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 10: you can double down and get it right, why not? 955 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 10: Like I'm not against it at all. And then I 956 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 10: kind of look on it side at the end of 957 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 10: the day, it's technology, Like, yeah, technology as we know 958 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 10: can feel it's not, you know, but sulking human errors. 959 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 10: So I think if it's I think there has to 960 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 10: be some like, okay, when do we use it type 961 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 10: of you know, is it going like how do you know? 962 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 10: With everything there comes stipulations, what have you. But I'm 963 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 10: not against it. I think if you use it correctly. 964 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys with like a word, 965 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 11: how many times did he break the plane in the 966 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 11: in the red zone and the end zone. 967 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 7: And it was like just kidding, No, you didn't get 968 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 7: a touchdown. 969 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 11: I want to say, yeah, that's something that he's encounter 970 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 11: but also too, I'm tired of being like, what is 971 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 11: that spot? 972 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 7: How many times we do that last year? What is that? 973 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 7: How many times do we be. 974 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 9: Like that's a spot an NFL, not even just every game. 975 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 11: And if that's if this is going to mediate to 976 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 11: some extent, I'm all for it. If you put the 977 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 11: humans with the electronics. 978 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 6: Stuff double down. 979 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, the more resources to me, the better for that 980 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 11: type of stuff because in these close games, every inch batteries. 981 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 11: We've learned that with Christy explaining every inch matter. So 982 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 11: it's like, however they gotta do it is fine with me. 983 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 11: I think it's a good rule. 984 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 9: And the return rule too, Yeah, I like it all right. 985 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 4: Guys, we have come to the end of the road 986 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 4: for today's episode. 987 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 3: Thank you ladies for coming in the app in today 988 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 3: for just shit and breathe. This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, 989 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 3: presented by Misline. We'll see you next week. 990 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 4: Have a great week in April fourths. 991 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 7: Oh no, this has 992 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: Been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and the Dallas 993 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club.