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Speaker 1: Welcome to this League uncut in the rule of twenty

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Speaker 1: four hour NBA News.

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Speaker 2: This's you'll, Chris Hans.

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Speaker 1: It's so time, Markstein, It's so time. This league uncut

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Speaker 1: is underway and on fire. This should be a good one.

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Speaker 3: Hello, dear friends, and welcome in to another edition, the

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Speaker 3: latest edition of this League Uncut. Mark Stein here with

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Speaker 3: Chris Haynes. The NBA season. It's seventy eighth season, drawing

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Speaker 3: ever closer. Chris and I recording this on Tuesday night,

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Speaker 3: so it will drop Wednesday morning, and that basically will

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Speaker 3: have us less than a week out from opening night.

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Speaker 3: The first games on Tuesday, the twenty fourth, the defending

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Speaker 3: champion Nuggets getting their rings before they play the Lakers

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Speaker 3: in Denver, and then Warriors Suns in the nightcap. No

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Speaker 3: Eastern Conference teams making that opening t n T two

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Speaker 3: games slate. Chris Haynes made it though he'll be there.

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Speaker 3: We believe he has been a signed to cover Suns

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Speaker 3: Warriors and well, first, just you ready? Are you ready?

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Speaker 3: I know you've been running around traveling. I've been running

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Speaker 3: around traveling. Are you ready to get started? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I'm ready, I'm I'm I'm probably the most ready. I've

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Speaker 4: been in a very long time to start the season, Like,

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Speaker 4: I'm really excited about this.

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Speaker 3: And that is why would you say.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm looking forward to the to seeing how the

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Speaker 4: end season tournament is going to play out.

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Speaker 2: That makes one of us, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know, I you know, I'd be remiss if I

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Speaker 4: didn't didn't mentioned Dame going to Milwaukee, seeing how that's

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Speaker 4: going to play out.

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Speaker 2: Your new hometown, Milwaukee.

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Speaker 4: I hear it's cold now Stein so's it's the exact

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Speaker 4: opposite of what it was a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 4: during media Day. So you know, I'm just I'm looking,

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Speaker 4: you know, the West. To me, I think it's wide open.

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Speaker 4: But you know, definitely the Nuggets you still got it.

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Speaker 4: You still got to give them the give them the

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Speaker 4: Favorites title. I don't know how overwhelmingly you want to

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Speaker 4: give them that title, but you know, out of respect,

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Speaker 4: you definitely got to give it to them. And I'm

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Speaker 4: just I'm looking. I'm just happy. I'm you know what, Honestly,

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Speaker 4: start So the summer, the summertime, during the off season,

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Speaker 4: I was so sick of airports. I didn't really go

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Speaker 4: anywhere during the off season. I stayed home and I

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Speaker 4: have fun. I stayed home. I joined two basketball leagues.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was barbecuing a lot, and it was cool.

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Speaker 4: That's what I wanted. I didn't want to airport. I

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Speaker 4: didn't want to be around the airplane. But the problem with

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Speaker 4: staying home is there's certain people in the house that

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Speaker 4: the extra layer of why I need to get back

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Speaker 4: on the roads.

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Speaker 2: My old head advice to you is to not name names.

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Speaker 4: I'm not naming names. I just put it out there.

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Speaker 4: I'll let everybody else kind of guess see what I'm

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Speaker 4: talking about for but all you folks leave, I'll leave

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Speaker 4: it at that. I was going to say too much,

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Speaker 4: but you get where I'm going.

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Speaker 2: If you're in the I mean you were in the shop.

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Speaker 4: And that's another thing too. That's another thing. Yes, I

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Speaker 4: was in the shop. Charlote's Beauty supply a lot. But

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Speaker 4: the problem with it's done. It got to a point

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Speaker 4: where I'm getting bossed around in the shop and asked

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Speaker 4: being asked to do a lot, and I'm like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I'm one of the faces. Don't try to boss me around.

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Speaker 4: You know you already try to boss me around at home.

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Speaker 4: You're not bossing me around at the shop. So I

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Speaker 4: say all that to say I'm ready to be back

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Speaker 3: I don't know when I will see Sacramento first, but

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Speaker 3: when I do, I'm going to sidle up to Davion

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Speaker 3: Mitchell and ask him if his trip to the beauty shop,

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Speaker 3: like what what that? You know, what kind of tone

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Speaker 3: that set for his summer, his off season workouts, the

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Speaker 3: season ahead? Because that was historic to do the interview.

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Speaker 3: People have no idea the level of equipment failure that

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Speaker 2: Have been on you man. We pulled, but we still

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Speaker 4: We got it done. I didn't know. I had no

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Speaker 4: So we got it done. We got it done. But

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Speaker 4: I'm ready, I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: Let's just let's discuss.

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Speaker 3: Let's start today with what is not done, because again

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Speaker 3: this is dropping on Wednesday morning. The Philadelphia seventy six

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Speaker 3: Ers play their first game on Thursday, October twenty sixth,

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Speaker 3: so a week and change away for the Sixers opener,

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Speaker 3: and the Sixers opener not an easy assignment. Philadelphia at Milwaukee.

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Speaker 3: Sources say Chris Haynes will be at that game for sure.

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Speaker 3: Lock it in Chris Haynes on the sidelines for Sixers

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Speaker 3: and Damian Lillard as teammates. But by all accounts, James

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Speaker 3: been told that there is quote nothing close on the

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Speaker 3: plays its final exhibition game against Atlanta. That is going

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Speaker 3: to be the last chance the Sixers have to get

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Speaker 3: Harden on the floor in an exhibition game. He showed

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Speaker 3: still haven't seen him in an exhibit. They haven't seen

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Speaker 3: him in an exhibition game. They've barely had him on

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Speaker 3: the floor for scrimmaging. And that's a thing with no trade,

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Speaker 3: with no trade apparent on the horizon. Look, I guess

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Speaker 3: things could always change. Something could change drastically in the

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Speaker 3: twenty twelve. But trades of that magnitude, it's rare that

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Speaker 3: they happen now after camp has begun.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, Philly is a.

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Speaker 3: Team you know, well, I'm sure you're going to be

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Speaker 3: taking pulse checks as soon as you get around these guys.

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Speaker 3: James Harden is in Milwaukee with you.

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Speaker 2: On October twenty sixth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's everything is pointing to that happening,

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Speaker 4: for sure, James was hoping to be traded. He had

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Speaker 4: no plans to play in any preseason games, and he

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Speaker 4: that's the next development. If he's not traded by open

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Speaker 4: the case. Is he going to eventually play? Because right now,

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Speaker 4: he's ramping things up, you know, that's what they're doing,

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Speaker 4: He's doing his work. What I can tell you is that,

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Speaker 4: with the hopes of being traded expeditiously and being in shape.

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Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, so if the regular season comes starts,

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Speaker 4: what can they say, Like, it's going to it's gonna

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Speaker 4: So he has a decision to make because all signs

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Speaker 3: Yeah, looks he wants to go to the Clippers. He's

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Speaker 3: made that clear, and the Clippers to this point, Rank

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Speaker 3: Clippers Terrence man is. They're not putting him in trade

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Speaker 3: offers for James Harden. It's one future first and a

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Speaker 3: pick swap, and Philly wants way more, and the Clippers

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Speaker 3: aren't budging. And to this point, any notion of the

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Speaker 3: Philly with multiple future first that hasn't worked either. So

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Speaker 3: and it's interesting because I think there's the theory there

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I think you said it. Philly is

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Speaker 3: But we also haven't seen Harden looking very eager to

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia seventy sectioners. And when you talk about all this stuff,

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Speaker 3: how is he going to take it if Harden doesn't play.

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Speaker 3: Can Philly be a good enough team with the team

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Speaker 3: Philly I think is one of those teams that we're

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Speaker 3: Giannis Antitokumpo played together, a lot of eyebrows raised at

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Speaker 3: else on their level, someone else that good. But enough

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Speaker 4: Now, the pick and roll combination looks lethal and they're

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Speaker 4: I mean the guy let's let's not. Let's not overlook

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Speaker 4: you can create your own player. However, it was a

432
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 4: certain height that you could could you could reach. You

433
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 4: couldn't go too tall. I think I think you probably

434
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 4: could have got your player to seven four or seven

435
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 4: five or something like that. But I remember I would

436
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 4: create a player like that seven five, and he would

437
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 4: be a shooting guard, and he would just look ridiculously

438
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 4: big and long on the court. It just looked crazy

439
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 4: like it wasn't real because it wasn't real. It's created.

440
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: It's a made up guy. Women looks like a created

441
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 4: video game guy. That's exactly what he looks like. I'm

442
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 4: watching him on the court, and it's not like he's

443
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 4: just hanging out in the paint, you know, like he's

444
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 4: Minuke Bowl or something like that. This guy is all

445
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 4: around the perimeter, dribbling the ball between his legs, step

446
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 4: back side step. Never see anything like it, never, And

447
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 4: I know too often we may use that phrase like

448
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 4: we've never seen anything like it before. We've never seen

449
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 4: anything like this before. This is true in the case

450
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Speaker 4: of Victor Women. And I'm with you. I have transferred

451
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: all of my uh. I transfer everything that I had

452
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 4: in Scoop, all the confidence I had in school winning

453
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 4: the Rookie of the Year, I transferred over to VIC.

454
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 4: And I agree with you. The only thing that would

455
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 4: probably keep him from winning it is an injury that

456
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 4: will keep him from, you know, reaching that sixty five game. Mark,

457
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: But nah, he the real deal definitely, or if.

458
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: The Spurs are gonna you know, load manage him, which

459
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: will be very interesting to see if he gets to

460
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: sixty five games, because you you know that they are

461
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: bound to be cautious with him, as cautious with him

462
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: as any team that could have drafted him.

463
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: So I do think that's a factor.

464
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 4: What what what are they going to describe it? You

465
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 4: can't you can't put you can't put it out as

466
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 4: load management. What are you saying they're gonna fake an injury?

467
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 4: What are you alluding to? Stein? You can't do that anymore?

468
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: The NBA is they're serious about this? Now, how are

469
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: they going to do that? Stein?

470
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: Look, if they want him playing sixty games instead of

471
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: sixty five, they will find a way whatever these new

472
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: whatever these new rules are. But like I said, I

473
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to get to San Antonio for Opening

474
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: Night and it's gonna be a packed house. I want

475
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: to see how how eager or annoyed Pop will be

476
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: for his pre game address?

477
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: Have you looked?

478
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: You?

479
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: Do you know when your first San Antonio game is?

480
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 3: When will you get a chance to Actually.

481
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't have one on the schedule. I

482
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 4: have my schedule through through the end of January. No

483
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 4: San Antonio as a yet.

484
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 2: A lot of Milwaukee, though, a lot of Milwaukee.

485
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 4: Actually I had no, I didn't have any Milwaukee games,

486
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 4: and this this this opening was just at it on

487
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 4: my schedule a week and a half ago, So things

488
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 4: could change. You know, the the you know how they

489
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 4: can flex me out, They flex games, they can flex

490
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: me out, so you know, it's fluid. The end season tournament,

491
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 4: you know, we don't know who's going to match up there.

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00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 4: You know I'm doing I'm doing a few in season

493
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: tournament games as well, so maybe I'll catch them then.

494
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: Man, am I going to be quizzing you when that happens.

495
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be putting you on the hot seat, asking

496
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: twenty five questions tell me everything.

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00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how that is going

498
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 4: to work. Are you a fan of it or you

499
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: don't know yet?

500
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: Do you really have to ask?

501
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah, well, I know you're you're, you're you. It's

502
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: following a European model, so I'm pretty sure.

503
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: That that that's the propaganda.

504
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: It's not following a European model.

505
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: But you know what, actually I think people are more.

506
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: I think I'm in the minority now. I think people

507
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: are open minded about it. I think people really are

508
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: rooting for it to go well. So I'm quite sure

509
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: that they will love to.

510
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: Throw it into my face and shut me.

511
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: Up if it turns out to be a success. But uh, yes,

512
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: you can say that I am. I'm a leading skeptic

513
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: of the Ncason Tournament because you know, to me, it's

514
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: not a tournament till we get to Vegas for the seventies.

515
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: These all the games you know, through the through the

516
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 3: quarters are our regular season games that just that, just

517
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: have two forms of packaging. But let's see, there's no

518
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: harm in trying something. Let's see, let's see what happens.

519
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: Let's see what happens with something new. All right, that

520
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: is going to do it for this edition of this league, uncut,

521
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: Chris and I do plan to be with you at

522
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: least one more time before the regular season officially starts,

523
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: and in that next show I will be able to

524
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: reveal well, I think now that I think about it,

525
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 3: will it be before Friday night or after Friday night.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to see. I'm not totally sure yet.

527
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: When that other episode, this week will take place because

528
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: Friday night, the Detroit Pistons come to Dallas. It will

529
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: be the mavericks last exhibition game, and it gives me

530
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: a chance. Maybe I have not decided yet. I haven't decided.

531
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: Should I approach Piston's rookie Asar Thompson, highly rated, highly

532
00:30:55,080 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: touted rookie Asar Thompson. Should I ask him if he

533
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: and his brother Alman Thompson, Are they aware of the

534
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: Thompson twins from the nineteen eighties that you were so

535
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: quick to disparage in our last podcast, even though history

536
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: will show they had two top ten hits in their

537
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 3: vaunted career as a nineteen eighties brit pop powerhouse band.

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00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: But yes, and I had to inform you that our

539
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: good friend, our great listener, Jinny and San Francisco, y'all,

540
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: y'all definitely go check her out, go on her ig.

541
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 4: It is blonde Asian eighty four. She has one of

542
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 4: the best bakeries in San Francisco. I've tried her stuff,

543
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: but she couldn't believe you threw that out to that

544
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: young kid like that. She couldn't believe you. Throughout Thompson,

545
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 4: I had no clue. Producer Ryan has no clue who

546
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 4: the Thompson Twins were in the eighties. And he's ten

547
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 4: years younger than me. And now you're going to ask

548
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 4: this nineteen year old kid when he comes to town

549
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: in the next couple of days. Stein You know, first

550
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 4: I was saying, don't do it, but you know what,

551
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: forget it, do it. Let me ask you this, Let

552
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 4: me ask you.

553
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this hypothetical before we go. If

554
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: there was a world famous Chris Haynes before you, from

555
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: any era in history, don't you think you would have

556
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: at least heard of them? I mean, they must have

557
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: been called the Thompson Twins their whole life. And you

558
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: don't think somebody along the way said, hey, did you

559
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: know that there used to be a famous man in

560
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: the eighties called the Thompson Twins. So again, I'm going

561
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: to hold on, hold on, I'm gonna to ask I'm

562
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: gonna take the question. If there was a famous Chris

563
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: Haynes in nineteen sixty five, you don't think you would

564
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: have heard of it?

565
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: Somehow famous, sir? Okay, if there was.

566
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: A famous if there was a famous Ryan Music in

567
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty three, do you think produce Ryan would have

568
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: heard of it somehow I would have that.

569
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, let's let's let's let's break down famous. There

570
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: are people who had a run. They had a good,

571
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 4: solid run. But famous to me is somebody you that

572
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: ten thirty years later, that name is still famous, the

573
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 4: Thompson Twins. No, I haven't. I haven't heard no the

574
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 4: Thompson And I know many Thompson's. I grew up with

575
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 4: a lot of Thompson's people, let with the last name Thompson.

576
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: I even know some I even know to Thompson Twins

577
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: growing up. I could guarantee never in their life, where there,

578
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: ever where they were those Thompson Twins that I know,

579
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: or they ever ask.

580
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: Let's let's do let's do it do a fame.

581
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: Let's let's let's do a test the next time, the

582
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 3: next time you cover a Laker game. Uh, I would

583
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: like you to please approach Mike Thompson, father of Clay

584
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: Thompson and also an NBA champion from the eighties, ask him, Hey,

585
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 3: can you believe a podcast in Stein brought up the

586
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: Thompson Twins And I just I'm just curious. Maybe maybe

587
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: I am way off, Maybe I am a dinosaur. Maybe

588
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 3: I'm the only person in the history of the NBA

589
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: who would dare ask today's Thompson Twins if they heard

590
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 3: of the Thompson Twins from the eighties.

591
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: But I don't think so.

592
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: I don't think it was that outlandish of a question

593
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: to raise.

594
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: Well, if you don't think so, then asks ask the

595
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: twin when it comes to town, ask them. Polo from

596
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 4: my homegirl, Jenny, one of the finest bakeries in San

597
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 4: Francisco's bear Let me give you her business plug. I

598
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 4: gave her. I gave her personal IG plug. Her business

599
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: plug is Buttercup Baking. That's on IG Buttercup Baking, So

600
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: go check her out. She's a big fan of Stein.

601
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: I don't think so, not anymore, not after after the

602
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: last show. But yes, next time we get together, I

603
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 3: will reveal if I had the gumption to approach young

604
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: Nasar Thompson to ask him this very pivotal question that

605
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: we threw at his former overtime elite colleague Tyler Smith.

606
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: And poor Tyler Smith, he just didn't know why I was.

607
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: Even asking something that happened and yeah, that was.

608
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: That was that was that was poor form on my part.

609
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: Let's see let's.

610
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: All right.

611
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: That will do it for this edition of This League Uncut.

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00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 3: Haynes and Stein will be back with you again soon,

613
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: and yes, count it down.

614
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: The NBA regular season is almost here.

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00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 1: And that'll do it for us. See you next time.

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Speaker 1: This League uncut it and iHeartRadio production at Christine did

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Speaker 1: Mark Stime