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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty

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Speaker 2: thirty five, forty twenty five fifty and the kick is

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Speaker 2: block the college football world. Stunners, Oh my goodness, please

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Speaker 2: stumble and bumble the lateral turn a counter on the inside,

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Speaker 2: don't you be lad?

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Speaker 3: Came them off the fail the night. It's not the

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Speaker 3: sage of the dog in the fighting, it's the size

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Speaker 2: What's up the general nation? Welcome to the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is the week zero recap. In Week one Thursday

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Speaker 2: Day preview, I'm Stucky in with me as always is

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Speaker 2: Colin Wilson. After that Saturday, college football is back. It's back.

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Speaker 3: I think Cole McDonald's throw an interception in my hotel room.

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Speaker 2: But got the wind. Voicemails are back. You know. It

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Speaker 2: was only two games, so we don't have a lot

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Speaker 2: since it's been a while since we listen to them.

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Speaker 1: Colin Stucky, This is Andy and Ann Arberg got the

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Speaker 1: under at forty seven and was sweating it on Miami Florida.

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Speaker 1: What a way to start this season. That fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: was insane. Luckily I had my friend Buffalo Trace helping

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Speaker 1: me out. Hope the rest of the season goes as

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Speaker 1: well as tonight did.

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Speaker 4: Come Gucky, It's our Ja from Jersey.

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Speaker 2: What is going on?

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Speaker 4: It's week zero and we got Greece footballs pronos on

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Speaker 4: every possession. It's one thirty in the morning. I'm sweating

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Speaker 4: this Hawaii plus eleven. I might need to start dicking

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Speaker 4: myself out a hole. It's about time we start learning

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Speaker 4: to Austie rule football Brisbane lines.

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Speaker 1: Plus eight two and a half.

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Speaker 4: This isn't what I wanted, but this is this is

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Speaker 4: the rat that we're gonna have to take over zero

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Speaker 4: almost another pick by McDonald here. I don't understand what's

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Speaker 4: going on.

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Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. Hey guys, it's Nash from Colorado.

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Speaker 4: Way to start degenerate Nation off right with a big

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Speaker 4: victory in SCS to No Mazilla and Nova plus seven

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Speaker 4: was too easy.

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Speaker 1: Felipe Franks, are.

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Speaker 4: You a fucking angelism?

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Speaker 1: You're calling it's Tony from Film on your jersey took Arizona.

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Speaker 4: I'm walking out of DJ's.

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Speaker 2: I just checked the score in the ESPN app Arizona's losing.

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Speaker 2: How's they gonna lay the eleven and a half lumber?

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Speaker 1: What a start of the year. Your fraud.

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Speaker 2: So it took exactly two games for college I caught

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Speaker 2: a fraud on the voicemail thoughts.

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Speaker 3: I had it at one and a half. So those

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Speaker 3: of you that had the over on calling to be

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Speaker 3: in a fraud, you can cast your tickets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, those two games were wild. You know,

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Speaker 2: I always said the first game of the year and

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Speaker 2: this means nothing, But it's just a psychological thing. You

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Speaker 2: want to win it, right, and your first bet. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of like the first question of a test. And

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Speaker 2: I told you this all the time, Like when you

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Speaker 2: then if the first question of the test is like

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Speaker 2: I am fucked right. So it was nice to have

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Speaker 2: And you know, there was obviously a lot of fluke plays.

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Speaker 3: Well, first off, I'm gonna pat us on the back

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Speaker 3: because I think we called it perfectly. We said under

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Speaker 3: on the forty nine and a half. I got to

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Speaker 3: I said, I'm looking for a forty five, a forty

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Speaker 3: to see. I was sitting in Westgate. They were at

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Speaker 3: for twenty three, but the second half over was no

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Speaker 3: One of these offensive coordinators was well prepared. One of

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Speaker 3: how to coach. And that's the difference between Dan Mullen

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Speaker 3: thought was limited. They only let him throw out into

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Speaker 3: receivers couldn't catch the ball. I think Jaron Williams is

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Speaker 3: an excellent quarterback. You made statements on our preseason pods

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Speaker 3: here on out. I love Jaron Williams. I think he's

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Speaker 3: and day about ball protection. But I mean you turn

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Speaker 3: more confident in his offense. You know, it was tough

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Speaker 3: than to watch Felipe Franks. On the other hand, you

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Speaker 3: coach for Florida. He looked night and day different. It's

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Speaker 3: just a different quarterback. He wasn't official, and I just

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Speaker 3: fact that he has confidence in this team with such

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Speaker 3: So I want to end by saying with this game,

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Speaker 3: I didn't move Florida's power rating. They are what we predicted,

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Speaker 3: didn't adjustin whatsoever. I actually bumped Miami up a point.

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Speaker 3: I had this game at eight, telling I love Jared Williams,

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Speaker 3: I love Miami, not saying they're beating Clemson or anything.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: One of the things to note though is with Franks look,

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Speaker 2: bad throws happen. Every quarterback makes one. But and Miami

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Speaker 2: is a great front seven, great linebackers. They get pressure

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Speaker 2: as well as anyone in the country. But Frank's made

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Speaker 2: he's under a little more pressure this year with that

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Speaker 2: offensive line. I should get better over time. But it's

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Speaker 2: just something I thought was worth mentioning. But speaking of

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Speaker 2: they are who I thought they were.

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Speaker 1: They are what we thought they were.

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Speaker 2: I had a field day on Twitter late night with

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Speaker 2: Arizona and especially on that field goal. That's when I

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Speaker 2: was like, college football is back. Would they have like

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Speaker 2: four penalties in a row? I felt like I was

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Speaker 2: watching the Steelers. In Mike Tomlin, there was like a

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Speaker 2: false start at delay a game, at delay a game.

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Speaker 2: He saw some similar stuff with Miami too, But then

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, there was this huge field goal

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Speaker 2: every time, every time, every single time. And but Hawaii

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Speaker 2: I mean there was bad defense, but the quarterbacks, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean Khalil Tate, he still can't read it. Safety

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Speaker 2: that them pick at the end of the game was killer,

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Speaker 2: things I said on Twitter, and I'm curious to your thoughts,

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Speaker 2: and I'll get your thoughts on you being a fraud

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Speaker 2: for one game, which is just it's week one. But

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Speaker 2: I said, who else is ready in two weeks from

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Speaker 2: Hawaii goes to Washington.

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Speaker 3: Oh God, sandwiches, sandwiches, sandwiches.

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Speaker 2: Sandwich City. But we'll spoke get to that one in

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. Your thoughts on Arizona Hawaii and

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Speaker 2: your adjustments after that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, adjustments were big.

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Speaker 2: So I'll save that for last.

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Speaker 3: Arizona. Which dumpster fires should I start with first? Let's

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Speaker 3: start with Hawaii. I had them, I think twenty five

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Speaker 3: to one to win the Mountain West. I have no

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Speaker 2: For Huz and buy and it's gonna he might ruin

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Speaker 2: your Trevor Lawrence ticket.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen two head coaches look more unprepared. They

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Speaker 3: look tired. Listen, I'm a father. I have two kids,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean they've grown up now. But they

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Speaker 3: was on that double flight red eye trip from like

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Speaker 3: guy looked the most unprepared I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 3: It was horribly called. Game penalties were just you know,

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Speaker 3: when Brett McMurphy, friend of the pod, Brett mc very,

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Speaker 3: you know, tweet it out the bus is going to

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Speaker 3: be forty five minutes late for Arizona should have known

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Speaker 3: Yah, value on the bobs twenty eight and a half

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Speaker 3: He was the offensive coordinator in twenty thirteen through twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 3: My question is, does Jimbo even care about this game?

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Speaker 3: They don't have a look ahead spavot All. This game

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Thirty four? Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's like I told Stuck him and I were text

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Speaker 2: Yeah, vit under center stick calling plays so the bet

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Speaker 3: I mean in my own daily personal life. I woke

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's one bet, many more to come. I'll

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Speaker 2: My number is extremely off. There's a huge discrepancy from

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Speaker 2: There's a rematch from Week one last year when Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: freshman came in. He only threw for one hundred yards.

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00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,680
Speaker 2: He was thirteen to twenty four, but he's a freshman,

436
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 2: came in on the road, didn't mess up anything. Michael Warren,

437
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,960
Speaker 2: Ron Wilde, you know, Cincinnati one. And then Ridder was

438
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 2: the quarterback the rest of the year, and then UCLA

439
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 2: Wilton Spade the transfer from Michigan. He got benched, and

440
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 2: then Dorian Thompson Robinson came in. Who's the UCLA's quarterback

441
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,120
Speaker 2: this year. He wasn't that effective either. Now the game

442
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,480
Speaker 2: is in Sinci. The rematch. UCO is a three point dog.

443
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 2: You make this Ucla minus five. What do you got

444
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 2: to say about this one?

445
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,639
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean this is another one of those games

446
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 3: like I was, I was off by a number, like

447
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,199
Speaker 3: a touchdown off part with Arizona, and so you know

448
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 3: you have to move on that. But I mean, there

449
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 3: is a wide discrepancy about some of the some of

450
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 3: the best power rating systems out there. If you like

451
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 3: S and P plus and I think I'm though I

452
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 3: could say and and instead of best P plus, I

453
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 3: think I can say SNP plus. But if you like them,

454
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 3: they've got Cincinnati minus six and a half. UCLA took

455
00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 3: some serious high marks and offseason adjustments. They checked the

456
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 3: box on every single level as far as offseason adjustments

457
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: with Chip Kelly out there, and we're going to see

458
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 3: if it pays off here. But this game last year,

459
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: I mean, the total is said at fifty five here.

460
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 3: Last season's opener saw a total of forty three points,

461
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 3: just six hundred and ten combined yards. And you say's

462
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 3: defense has seen Desmond River before he came in. He

463
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 3: even thirteen from twenty four had one hundred, only one

464
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 3: hundred yards, No tds, no nts. You know, I don't

465
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 3: think since he's got any look ahead up to Ohio State,

466
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 3: I think Fickle does emotionally probably to the following week

467
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 3: ins Ohio State. I just think this is gonna be

468
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 3: very vanilla. I think it's going to be defensive. I

469
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 3: don't think UCLA has really found their identity on offense. First,

470
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 3: this is a game because I'm so far off of

471
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 3: what the current number is. I mean, I think I'm

472
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 3: a touchdown off what the current number is out there

473
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 3: in the market, and the current number is actually four

474
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,479
Speaker 3: or five six points off of what S and P

475
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 3: plus is. As while FPI has this as a pick,

476
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 3: we are also out of whack on Cincinnati. Like Cincinnati

477
00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 3: overachieved last year, their second order win totals dictates I

478
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: got a little bit lucky with their numbers. Ucla, on

479
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 3: the other hand, shows up to some games not some

480
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: of the other. We don't know how strong they're going

481
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 3: to be this year. So I think there's a complete

482
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: stay away, just two complete wild cards. I have no clue,

483
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 3: but I'll be ready to adjust on the on the fly.

484
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Speaker 2: With the power rating, yeah, I mean, I can tell

485
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 2: you I'm staying away as well. But just to show

486
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,239
Speaker 2: you how far the perception in the market has come

487
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: on these two teams in exactly one year. Right, Cincinnati

488
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 2: was a two touchdown dog at UCLA last year, so

489
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: obviously there's home field and every home field could be different.

490
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 2: But just if you applied the genera three points to

491
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: each and you know, you take six points away from

492
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: minus fourteen for the switch back to Cincinnati, would imply

493
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: that UCLA's minus eight. But I've been you know, that's

494
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: closer to what you have than the minus three. Obviously,

495
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: Cincinnati proved to be better than people thought it was.

496
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 2: But that's just pretty fascinating to see that flip two

497
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: touchdown underdog at UCLA. And now to start off this year,

498
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: they're a home favorite. But yeah, I'm staying way with you.

499
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: And the next game, number one team in the nation, Clemson.

500
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: They are thirty six thirty six and a half point

501
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: favorites of a Georgia Tech starting off with a conference

502
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: game here over under fifty nine, fifty nine and a half,

503
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: you make this thirty two and a half. I hope

504
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: you're not betting Georgia Tech, but if you are, good luck,

505
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: because I cannot back this team. This could get ugly.

506
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 2: I'll go have a right up for this game. I'm

507
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: thinking as of now, I'm gonna play this under Now

508
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to hold your nose because Georgia Tech

509
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: is going to be ugly. I mean, they're they're going

510
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 2: from an option to a spread. Now. The reason why

511
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: I think that can work Jeff Collins new coach. He

512
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: can recruit and he's always been a great recruiter, and

513
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: that's what you'll need to do. Because Georgia Tech, their

514
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: triple option has enabled them to compete in the ACC

515
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 2: with less inferior talent, right three stars as their main

516
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: players on offense. And you know, if they're going to

517
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: run a spread, they're gonna have to get better talent

518
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: and better recruiting. And he's doing that already. The recruiting

519
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 2: class was excellent in some of their commits. So I

520
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: think it can work. I think that, you know, in

521
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: order for that team to take the next step, it'll

522
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: you know, it has to be a more modern offense.

523
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: But there's gonna be some growing bands in the interim there.

524
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 2: I mean, everyone they recruited number one, you know, isn't

525
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: a four and five startups there. And they were all

526
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: there to run the tribble option. So who were the

527
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: receivers going to be. They've never even had a tight end.

528
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: They do have a tight efferente kind of should help,

529
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: but the offensive line will have completely different lineups and

530
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: splits and everything. So the defense also lost a ton.

531
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: But the thing you worry about is obviously, you know,

532
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: if you look at Clemson the last couple of years

533
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: in their dominant defense, and if you think that Georgia Tech,

534
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: like I do, is going to struggle and then especially

535
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: implementing this brand new offense against the number one team

536
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: of the nation on the road, it's not ideal. So

537
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: the thing you worry about is just Georgia Tech getting

538
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: the ball at the twenty and punning it and Clemson

539
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: is starting at the fifty every time, and then they're

540
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: just going to score at will with Trevor Lawrence against

541
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: you know, a defensive lost a ton. New scheme now,

542
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: Jeff Collins. Here's why some of the reasons I like

543
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 2: the under Collins, great defensive coach, known for his defense.

544
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: I think the defense should improve there just because of that.

545
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: Their offense, which is good to struggle. I think it's

546
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 2: going to go really conservative with this new system, even

547
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: though they want to spread it out and still think

548
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: they're going to try to run its onde. And Clemson's

549
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 2: defensive line isn't as dominant as it was last year.

550
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: They obviously lost a ton of NFL town Now they're

551
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: at the point where they can reload, but you can

552
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: still take a step back and not be as dominant.

553
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: So I think Georgia Tech, if they run the ball

554
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 2: in a little conservative they can get some yards right

555
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: and you know, so I don't think they could be

556
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: necessarily punting from their fifteen to twenty every time. And

557
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 2: they also have a really good punter on their Ray

558
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: Guy Award list, so he could boom the ball, which

559
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: will help. At Clemson, Amari Rodgers. He tours ACL and

560
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: he's out, and he was their punt returner last year

561
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: and a damn good one. So they are going to

562
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: have someone else returning punts. And I had one practice

563
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: I think Sweeney's Stablos kid was taking punt returns, So

564
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: that's not good if he's doing that. But so my

565
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: point is the Clemson's punt return unit doesn't have their

566
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: best player, and Georgia Tech is a pretty good punterer,

567
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: so it at least help in the field position department

568
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: where Clempson's not always starting at the four fifty. And

569
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: then one of the things that I've heard from Davo

570
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: a couple of times, who by the way we just

571
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: said this. They have Texas A and M next week,

572
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: so do they want to show much? Do they just

573
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 2: want to make sure that they win and stay healthy.

574
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: But Dava throughout camp has been saying, look, I am

575
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 2: not happy with our second team. Like the difference. He's

576
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: not happy with the depth. And he said it a

577
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: number of times, so he's you know, his point was

578
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: that the difference between the first and second team is

579
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: pretty significant. So what to me what that means as

580
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 2: a coach? And again that should be a blowout with

581
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: Texas A and M on deck. He probably wants to

582
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: get a look at those guys who's going to be

583
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: because depth is important college football. He wants to get

584
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: a look at Okay, if someone goes down, who who

585
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 2: am I going to trust? Is my next you know,

586
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: my third running back? Who you know, an offensive lineman

587
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: who I need? So he might want to get a

588
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: look this early in the season at some of these

589
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: guys and pull everyone. Uh So, I think that could

590
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: help the under as well. So fifty nine and a half,

591
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: it might not be pretty well with Trevor Lawrence at quarterback.

592
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: It might have to sweat like we did on Saturday,

593
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 2: But I think I'm leaning towards the Under, but I'll

594
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 2: write this one up. So keep an eye out on

595
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: the Action app and Action Network. What are you seeing here?

596
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think you're onto a lead because

597
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 3: I had the same thoughts. Oh, by the way, before

598
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: I go on, Stuck said one of the most outrageous

599
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 3: things I have ever heard in three years of podcasting,

600
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 3: A transfer tight end from Yukon will help. I've never

601
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: heard that before in my entire life. Just had to

602
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: get that out of the way.

603
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: Well, this is the team you never had a tight

604
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: end for like years, I know, but tight endy I

605
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: would have helped at tight end if I played tight

606
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: end somewhere.

607
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 3: The tight end from Yukon is going to help. No,

608
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: it's just crazy that Yukon is helping the college football world.

609
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 3: So I think you're onto something with the Under. By

610
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: the way, when this game kicks off, and when it starts,

611
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: let's all get together, Trevor Lawrence Nation. This is the

612
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: Heisman campaign. This is everything that we've been waiting for.

613
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: If they if the offense starts getting the ball at

614
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 3: the fifty yard one, that's actually gonna upset me a

615
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: little bit because it's going to kill in the total

616
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: yards that he's going to have at the end of

617
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: the season. I would prefer Clemson to start the ball

618
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: at the fifteen or the tenties so that we get

619
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: those juicy yards with him Rodgers and t and Ross

620
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: and all that other good stuff. But I think you're

621
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 3: on the right track with the under I feel like

622
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 3: Clemson needs to get the Bama treatment. And what I

623
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: say by that is is last year's Bama came out

624
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 3: and whipped everybody. I mean they were covering the full

625
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: game spread in the first half. Vegas finally caught on

626
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: for a twenty eight point spread. They were setting twenty

627
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: one and a half, you know, twenty one point first halves.

628
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: I think Clemson might get a lot of the same

629
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: treatment this year. I think Clemson in the first half,

630
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: Dabo's going to realize that, you know, he's got to

631
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: get the Cadillac. He's got to fire up the engine,

632
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 3: he's got to let it roll down the street a

633
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: little bit. And then in the second half he could

634
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: pull his toy back and put it back in the garage.

635
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: Now his toy, his baby is the offense.

636
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: Defense is a.

637
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 3: Little bit of another question Brett Vinibles doesn't really know

638
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: what he has in some spots on the defense. They're

639
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: going to play a full game. Everything that I'm reading

640
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: is is they're trying to fill spots. It's still competitive

641
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: and these are a bunch of hosses. I mean, they

642
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: have a ton of blue trip recruiting on the and

643
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: everybody's going to be vying to be a starter and

644
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: to get playing time. I don't think the defense is

645
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: going to let up. So what I expect is for

646
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: Clemson to get out big in the first half. The

647
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: total I've got said at sixty three, so I don't

648
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 3: think there's any value in the current number right now,

649
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: but a second half under only because the Clemson defense

650
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: is still going to be competing all the way. So

651
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: you know, with Texas A and M on deck, you

652
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: got to ask, when is Dabo going to pull it back?

653
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: Let me get my offensive starters out. I'm still going

654
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: to play a whole bunch of defense because I figure

655
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: out what I've got over there. The Unders taking a

656
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: whole bunch of money right now, there's plenty of players

657
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: on defense have something to prove. I think the first

658
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: team d is going to be in there way longer

659
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: than the first team offense, and that might be a

660
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: trend for the first three or four weeks. So I

661
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: think the Bama treatment from twenty eighteen is the way

662
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: we play Clemson for the first few weeks.

663
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, good solid announces there and like I said, I'll

664
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: have something written up on it. But I think that

665
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: is a good point about their defense and playing throughout.

666
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked if Georgia Tech doesn't score by

667
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: the way. I think their offense will struggle that much

668
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: early on. Now, maybe they'll have in some new wrinkles

669
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: that cause so it comes there's no tape on them,

670
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: which is the one that advantage that Georgia Tech has, right, Like,

671
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech is a triple option team forever and now

672
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: they're a spread. But like they don't have anything. What

673
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: kind of spread is there going to be somebody? So

674
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: they have a lot of guys, they have a lot

675
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks that can run, So what wrinkles are they

676
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: going to have? That's the one wild card here. So

677
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: with the second half under you even benefit from that

678
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: as well. You know, Clemson has now seen what Georgia

679
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: Tech is going to try and do. They're probably going

680
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: to throw out any of their you know, they're playing

681
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: the number one team in the nation, so any of

682
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: their trick plays that they love, They're probably gonna do

683
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: that in the first couple drives to try and give

684
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: them a shot, you know, some momentum on the sidelines.

685
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: You know, they're not gonna wait till the second half

686
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: do that. So we'll see, all right, and then one

687
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: of the other games that I'm looking forward to, which

688
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: we won't spend much time on, we're gonna spend a

689
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: lot of time on both these teams. Who were high

690
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: on Florida International at two lane two lane's two point favorite.

691
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: I think they were a three point favorite over under

692
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: fifty seven and a half. You make this two, I

693
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: make this three. So it's stay away and we're gonna

694
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: learn a lot about both these teams, who you know

695
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: I have money on in some form or fashion, actually

696
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: have both of them to win their conference in the

697
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: futures market, I stayed away from the two lane win total,

698
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: so I actually would I mean, I really don't care

699
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: who wins this game, to be honest, I actually have

700
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: some small on Florida International over so I would prefer

701
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: Florida international wins. But we're gonna learn a lot about

702
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: these teams. Some we already know. I think we're we

703
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: think these are gonna be two teams that we want

704
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: to back early in the season. But this one line

705
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: looks spot on. Games should be really competitive and staying away.

706
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: Would you agree, Yeah, absolutely, I got two Lane minus two.

707
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: The numbers are two at three. I mean, maybe there's

708
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: some value in FIU. The total is exactly where it

709
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: should be. You know, there's no play on either side

710
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: for me. Stuck and I love both of these teams.

711
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: We love FIU, we love Too Lane. We love tu

712
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: Lane because they've always been an explosive offense and they've

713
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 3: really had problems with efficiency. But now they're throwing the

714
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: offense out. They've changed offensive coordinators. They're going hullball. You know,

715
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: Willie Fritz is kind of chucking the whole diamond triple option,

716
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: the the the rpo they were running in space there,

717
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: and they're gonna, let you know, kind of have a

718
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: new offensive scheme. But they're going to be faster is

719
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: what they want to do. That was the goal they

720
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: want to They want to run more of a tempo

721
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: than what they were before, which was already kind of

722
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: a little frenetic. So at the same time, FIU, we've

723
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 3: talked about them at length in the preseason. They were

724
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: one of the top teams in the nation and exposive

725
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: plays on offense, and Butch Davis had a defense that

726
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: was one of the best in the nation, a limiting

727
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: exposive plays. So this is a really interesting I mean,

728
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: there may be more tweets on the FIU two lame game.

729
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: I mean I may have double as many tweets on

730
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 3: this game than I have about Clemson, because I mean,

731
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: I love FIU. This is going to be a huge

732
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: fact finding, especially with James Morgan coming back. He didn't

733
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: play in the bowl game. You know, if this is

734
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: a pick and pool, ultimately you have to pick something

735
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: on Thursday night. I like FIU in this spot, but

736
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: it's going to be a pass for me.

737
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: Yep, I would completely agree there. We'll look forward to

738
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: watching it, not wagering. Yet another game here that looks

739
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: interesting and the dog to me looks tempting. Kent State

740
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: at Arizona State. Arizona State's a twenty five point favorite

741
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: over under sixty two. We've talked about Kent before. We

742
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: think are going to be improved. They like to go fast.

743
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: They're very high tempo. At Arizona State, which lost a

744
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: ton on offense, they do have one of the best

745
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: backs in the country who they're going to rely on,

746
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: and it's going to be hot. What are your thoughts here.

747
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we've got another freshman quarterback going in

748
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: here for Arizona State. But you know, for Kent, let's

749
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: talk about the number right now, it's twenty five. Is

750
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: stuck in a record its at twenty five. I think, you know,

751
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: at twenty seven, I'll start considering Kent. I make this

752
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 3: Arizona State minus twenty.

753
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: Three and a half.

754
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 3: I make it a total of fifty two. I think

755
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: the total at sixty two is way too high. And

756
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: I know, based upon Kent's pace last year, they like

757
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: to you know, they like to push it up tempo,

758
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: trying to go as fast as they can. But hey,

759
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: this game's happening down in Tempe. It's going to be

760
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: one hundred and seven degrees one hundred and seven degrees

761
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: at kickoff. Do you know what the temperature was today

762
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: in Kent, Ohio where the players are practicing today, It

763
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: was sixty six degrees these kids are flying from sixty

764
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 3: six degrees down to Tempe, Arizona to play in one

765
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 3: hundred and seven degree heat. And you think, Tom, you think, oh,

766
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: don't be prepared. They're okay, they're eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old.

767
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: They will be conditioned to do that. Michigan State flew

768
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: down in this exact same situation last year, played in

769
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: one hundred and seven degree heat. How many points were

770
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: scored in the first half between the two teams. Three?

771
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 3: That's it, just three. So the totals on the rise,

772
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 3: I mean it's actually it's going higher. Apparently temperature is

773
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 3: not going to be a problem.

774
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if the.

775
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: Game's been played in the dome, but I mean I'll

776
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: take the under. I think it's a sixty three. There's

777
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 3: going to be an underplay come through the app I

778
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: think it should be much lower. I think temperature is

779
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: a factor, especially in the first half or just a

780
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: full game, the cramps and everything.

781
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 2: At Arizona.

782
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 3: State's running a true freshman out there at quarterback. The

783
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 3: heat that's coming down on the macroster defensively and offensively.

784
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 3: I don't care what their pace is, I don't care

785
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 3: what the mass says one hundred and seven is something

786
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: to be dealt with, and we saw in Michigan State

787
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: last year. So I'm looking at the under here. Kent

788
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: is something I want to consider if we get some

789
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: steam up to twenty seven or if we feel greedy,

790
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 3: and maybe it'll get twenty eight. I doubt it, but

791
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: at twenty seven, we got to start considering Kent.

792
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean last year Arizona State was the only

793
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 2: team in the country with a three thousand yard passer,

794
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: one thousand yard receiver, and a back that ran for

795
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: over fifteen hundred yards. Now, Benjamin's back in the backfield,

796
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: but Wilkins, Manny Wilkins has gone a quarterback and the

797
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: Hill Harry obviously, who's drafted by the Patriots has gone.

798
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: And you know herm Edwards and how he wants to play,

799
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: and especially with Wilkins and Harry, he's gonna pound the

800
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: rock and he's gonna rely on Benjamin was one of

801
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: the best backs in the country. They're going to run

802
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: out of time, which will help the under. Their three

803
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: three five defense, which Kent State is not too familiar with,

804
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: I think could slow Kent down. So I would agree

805
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 2: with that. I think the look, especially as it keeps rising.

806
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: The look is probably at the under I actually have

807
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: a slight lead that kent with questions about Arizona State.

808
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: Who's it's a idea. There's a lot of questions a quarterback.

809
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna, I'm gonna, you know. So part of me

810
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: wants to say I should just stay away and see

811
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: how this kid plays. But part of me says they

812
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: might be a little overrated in the market because I.

813
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 3: Think there's the thing about herm where he's he doesn't

814
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 3: care what the outcome is as long as he gets

815
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 3: his true freshman experience. I think he's proven that before.

816
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 3: He doesn't care what the game outcome is. I mean

817
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: he got lucky. I mean I would say luck they

818
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: won the game, but he would trade experience with true

819
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: freshman over the result of a game. I just I

820
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: feel that's the way Herne coaches.

821
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: Yep, fair enough and well a much more content throughout

822
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: the week. By the way, on these games, if you

823
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 2: don't have the Action app already, what are you doing?

824
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: And you can always check out Action network dot com.

825
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: The last game that will cover Utah at BYU a

826
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: game with national title implications, so obviously Georgia Tech and

827
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: Clemson and Texas State and Texam have national title implications

828
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: because if either of those teams lose, which isn't happening,

829
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: it would change the national title picture. But this is

830
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: a realistic game that could impact the national title now BYU,

831
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: if they win out, they would be they should be

832
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: considered for the playoffs. Right absolutely, But so b YU fans,

833
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: at least you have a path to the national champions

834
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: You've got to win out. But in that ridiculous schedule Utah,

835
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: some people say they need to win out as well,

836
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: or maybe one loss and win the past. So if

837
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: they have if Utah loses this game, I think they

838
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: need to win out to get to the playoff. Yeah,

839
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: because the Utah two lost Utah team even if the

840
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: one losses earlier in the year. Ohio State did that

841
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: before with against Attack at home. But if Utah loses

842
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: this game, they have to win out. So uh, there's

843
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: definitely some you know, outside national title implications. The line

844
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: is five YU is catching five you make it eight

845
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 2: over under forty eight. We've talked about Utah at length.

846
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: We've talked about BYU as well. We like both of

847
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: these teams. I want no part of this game. Should

848
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: be a great football game. What are you seeing?

849
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: You know? First off, this was the game that gave

850
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: me pause on Utah making the playoff Utah win the

851
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 3: National title, which I think I saw subtlely Corso put

852
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: in Utah in the National title game against Alabama the

853
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: other day. I was like, oh boy, I think everybody's

854
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: caught on now to what we were saying about Utah.

855
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: I mean I loved him as Pac twelve, right, I

856
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: love him at ten to one futures for the Pac

857
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 3: twelve that didn't include this game. I mean, there is

858
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: there is a reason why it was a little shy

859
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 3: on the playoff implications, and it was because of this game.

860
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of my Twitter timeline say how

861
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 3: is how is Utah only favored by five over BYU?

862
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: It's a trap. The books are set in a trap.

863
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 3: They're not set in a trap. These teams just played

864
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 3: on November twenty fourth BYU outgained Utah three hundred and

865
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: fifty seven yards of two hundred ninety six.

866
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: They twenty is nothing at the half.

867
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: Twenty point lead BYU was dominating.

868
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: Twenty one nothing fourth quarter for Utah and the whole

869
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: last year unbelievable.

870
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 3: And I mean this is a rivalry game. It's being

871
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: played at BYU. We love both these teams. Both of

872
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 3: them have excellent quarterback play, both of them an excellent

873
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: trench play. I mean this is and by the way,

874
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 3: for anybody that doesn't know, BYU number one in the

875
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: nation in limiting opponent explosiveness. Nobody was better at stopping

876
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: explosive plays than BYU. This game is what gave me

877
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: ultimate past. So let's talk about Utah for a second here,

878
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: because you know we're out of the preseason stuff and

879
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 3: trying to predict long term shit and futures and all that.

880
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 3: Utah didn't score in the first half of that game

881
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: last year, similar to Northern Illinois. They didn't score in

882
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: the first half of that game either. They let Weeber

883
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: get up in the first quarter I think ten to

884
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: nothing in a game last year. You know, they have

885
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: a history of starting slow in these games. Now they

886
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: have a new offensive coordinator, Andy Lovewoiock comes in. I

887
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 3: know he was at Utah before, but these players don't

888
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 3: know him, so it is kind of a new marriage

889
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: between coordinator and players. You know, he has high praise

890
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: winning him. We all think that he's great, But like

891
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: we said, this is Huntley's first game under center with

892
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: a new offensive coordinator. You know, I don't think boa

893
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: US ever going to get to plus seven. I know

894
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: in the offseason I saw this at six. There was

895
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 3: one shop that head of a six and a half.

896
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: I would love to have this game at BYU plus seven.

897
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: I don't sure I'm going to play it live. I

898
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: think Utah minus three and BOU plus seven is the

899
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: nuts if you want to play it live. But as

900
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: far as futures for taking BYU over which I suggested,

901
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: as far as taking Utah to win the Pac twelve

902
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 3: or in a Utah, you know, I think what you're

903
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: ultimately hoping for is that both teams live up. Zach Wilson,

904
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: Hontley stay healthy through this game. You know, plenty of

905
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: points I think will come later rather than early in

906
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: the game. So my eye is on a first half

907
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: under twenty four and twenty four and a half. I

908
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: think if you can get that, you want to do that.

909
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 3: It's at forty eight right now, so you may be

910
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: able to get twenty four and if you see twenty

911
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: four and a half, I would take the under in

912
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: this game. I think you're going to be feeling each

913
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: other out early. It's going to be a heavyweight battle.

914
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: The trenches are going to be all over each other.

915
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: I think a BYU money line in the first half

916
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: may have a lot of value. Considering how slow Utah

917
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 3: has ran last year with this offense, in the fact

918
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: they have a new offensive coordinator, You're probably going to

919
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: be able to get BYU money line first half a

920
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: round plus two hundred, maybe plus one seventy. I think

921
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: that has a lot of value considering the history between

922
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: the two teams. So I think it's gonna be a

923
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: one possession victory. It could go either way. It's a

924
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: heavyweight battle, and let's just hope everybody stays healthy because

925
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: these are two play on teams for the rest of

926
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 3: the year.

927
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: I mean also BYU and these teams are going to

928
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: play each other again next year to start off the year.

929
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: You know, this is the first game they thought all

930
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: summer to stew and watch the tape and hear about

931
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: the loss which these teams first played. By the way

932
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 2: in eighteen ninety six, Utah won that game twelve four.

933
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: I'm not sure the spread was back in eighteen ninety six.

934
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: But and this is one hundredth meeting, by the way,

935
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: which is pretty cool. And Utah has won eight in

936
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: a row since twenty ten, and last year they came

937
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: back from twenty down, the largest deficit overcome in the

938
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: ninety nine game history of this rivalry. So you know

939
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 2: that BYU is going to come out with maybe a

940
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: little more emotion than Utah. And look, this game is

941
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 2: I think going to be a classic, and it should

942
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: be close throughout. I'll look at BYU first half as well.

943
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: You make some good points there, but keep your eye

944
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: out for more in the Holy War and other games.

945
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: On Thursday, Colin, thanks for joining me. We'll be back here,

946
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: like I said before, on Thursday night podcast out on

947
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: Friday morning. We'll talk through the entire Saturday slate. It's

948
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: our first full slate, so make sure you have your

949
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: pencil sharpened, your pens full of ink because it's gonna

950
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: be an loaded episode. We'll also obviously have FCS or no,

951
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: you know, I think it's some more FCS talk in there.

952
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: But thanks for listening, everybody. Make sure you rate reviews.

953
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954
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955
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 2: later in the week. Cheers, peace out,