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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. It's installation Day and that's what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do here on Talking Cowboys. We just heard
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett around the horn. Anything that it's on your
Speaker 1: mind as you get started this morning. Mickey, you worried
Speaker 1: about Crawford playing this week? Oh, he's not playing, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing for a couple of weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that versides evidently it's and it's not the fixed hip,
Speaker 1: it's the other hip that's been giving him some problems.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's nice to see maybe limited back with
Speaker 1: Austin being back, but they're going to have to figure
Speaker 1: out again. I didn't mean to go to Austin, but
Speaker 1: I'll talk about the ends. They're gonna have to figure
Speaker 1: out again how they're gonna play that rotation. You know,
Speaker 1: it's Quinn at least you get to feel good about
Speaker 1: his situation. But now what's going to go behind Quinn?
Speaker 1: You know, is it going to be Joe Jackson and
Speaker 1: Armstronger those guys. But they've got to figure this out.
Speaker 1: It's a big game for these defensive linemen to have
Speaker 1: to get after Teddy Bridgewater in this game. Well, and
Speaker 1: for your interior guys too. That's why I asked about
Speaker 1: you know, Anton Woods and sounding like he's gonna go today.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked about Covington and the press conference
Speaker 1: because he was a little banged up in the game.
Speaker 1: Sounds like he's okay, but it could be more of
Speaker 1: Covington and Tristan Hill in this game too. Trying to
Speaker 1: deal with what Brian said yesterday, a big, a big
Speaker 1: powerful Saints offensive line and try to get some push
Speaker 1: there and with Crawford. Okay, So is it one of
Speaker 1: those things where it's like when you've got one you've
Speaker 1: got a bad knee, and you're favoring that one and
Speaker 1: then your other one goes Haywire is the same way
Speaker 1: with a hill. I think he has this condition. I
Speaker 1: just think this is naturally, you know, something that has
Speaker 1: developed in his life where he's had, you know, physically
Speaker 1: is sometimes the way you're put together might be the
Speaker 1: way that you know, that's the things you deal with
Speaker 1: arthritic knees, elbows, shoulders, whatever you have life, you sometimes curveballs.
Speaker 1: We are not perfectly put together. And the word tear
Speaker 1: on him I think has been really really you know,
Speaker 1: pronounced throughout his career. And he's fought through a lot
Speaker 1: of things in his like bad shoulders, bad knee, bad hips.
Speaker 1: You know, he seems to find a way to kind
Speaker 1: of get there. But this one's clearly got him h
Speaker 1: you know, taken taken back. That was always the injury
Speaker 1: I was most worry about because I don't know that
Speaker 1: it's fixable. He's in his eighth year, and yeah, you
Speaker 1: get something, you get a condition like that, and you
Speaker 1: can treat it, but I don't know that you can
Speaker 1: fix it. The other injuries they have, they're kind of
Speaker 1: fixable or you can rehab it and you know how,
Speaker 1: you know, how do you rehab a hip? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we kind of need that sucker. We saw it. We
Speaker 1: saw Byron Jones kind of deal with that. That did
Speaker 1: fix whatever he had the surgery yer right, and then
Speaker 1: you know with Crawford, so the fact that it's not
Speaker 1: the one that he had fixed, it's the other one
Speaker 1: that that tells me something maybe. And again I'm not
Speaker 1: a doctor here, I'm not genetically something not balanced with
Speaker 1: him there that he's going to have to deal with
Speaker 1: the rest of his life. And they've been trying to
Speaker 1: manage him since training camp. I mean, just try to
Speaker 1: kind of move him along, rehab him, mick, and try
Speaker 1: to get him ready to play. Obviously it was bothering
Speaker 1: him that first week. You're right, I don't know if
Speaker 1: there's a full timetable for him. I think Stephen Jones
Speaker 1: said a week or two ago, you know, it could
Speaker 1: be a little bit. So how long exactly in the meantime, they're,
Speaker 1: like Brian mentioned, it's Dorance Armstrong. Carrie Hider's a guy
Speaker 1: that played all over the line. Absolutely they have to Again, well,
Speaker 1: I think you just look at it the way it
Speaker 1: was with Crawford, I mean with Quinn missing. Yeah, you've
Speaker 1: just traded off Quinn Crawford for Quinn and you're in
Speaker 1: the same situation you were the first couple of games
Speaker 1: when Quinn wasn't there, you had to rely on Armstrong, Jackson, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and those guys. So yeah, I mean, Armstrong
Speaker 1: played a good bit in that game at right defensive end,
Speaker 1: and maybe it comes down to you. You You get less
Speaker 1: rest for DeMarcus Lawrence along with Quinn. Okay, I'm worried
Speaker 1: about the nickel the nickel tackle. That's where I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like that they can do some damage with
Speaker 1: if Crawford was in there along with Collins, We've seen
Speaker 1: that kind of be a really good little combination side
Speaker 1: of two power players. All Right, I'm piecing things together.
Speaker 1: Here is an offshoot of that. Maybe why they're doing
Speaker 1: what they're doing with Jaylen Smith now yes, yeah, no questions.
Speaker 1: So they're trying to attack the pocket with Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: is what they're trying to do. But their numbers up
Speaker 1: front and guys that can put pressure on the on
Speaker 1: the quarterback from an end position. Jalen Smith is one
Speaker 1: that looks like he possesses that ability. He helped on
Speaker 1: the Colins sack they ran. They ran a twist stunt
Speaker 1: inside and he was one of the one of the
Speaker 1: posts and so was Lawrence both hard charge inside. It
Speaker 1: wads everything up inside for the Dolphins and now here
Speaker 1: comes Collins off the type you know, the tight path
Speaker 1: and he's able to get in on the quarterback. Yeah, clearly.
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, there's been a speculation on Twitter,
Speaker 1: what you know, what's wrong with Jalen Smith. They look at,
Speaker 1: you know, one or two plays, and they also look
Speaker 1: at the snaps that Joe Thomas got and in natural
Speaker 1: assumption is okay, what's what's going on? Why they don't
Speaker 1: like what's they're saying. Maybe they're figuring out a different
Speaker 1: way to use it to offset where they've got to
Speaker 1: need up front on the defensive as well. I think
Speaker 1: in training camp though, we saw them using the linebackers
Speaker 1: in more pass rush rolls, blitzing Jalen Smith and blitzing him.
Speaker 1: Even in camp when they're not tackling guys, he's coming
Speaker 1: in pretty violent. Yeah, So I think they saw where, okay,
Speaker 1: we can go with a three man line and stand
Speaker 1: him up and they don't know if he's coming or going.
Speaker 1: Might feel it's a better fit for him to be
Speaker 1: on the field all the time, rushing the pass or
Speaker 1: than maybe playing in some pass carebag if you're a nickel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. They've brought Joe Thomas on the field
Speaker 1: and play nineteen snap nineteen. So they had a plan
Speaker 1: and what they wanted to do. A matter of fact,
Speaker 1: we saw it like he was tired. No exactly. I
Speaker 1: mean to me, if you want to, if you want to,
Speaker 1: if you want it to meet. Just my evaluation just
Speaker 1: watching the film, I felt like Jalen Smith had four
Speaker 1: bad plays. That was it, and you know everybody's only
Speaker 1: he doesn't look this, he doesn't you know. And then
Speaker 1: again the play that he looked the absolute worst on
Speaker 1: was the handback where it was the trick play where
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he took an aggressive approach up
Speaker 1: and then he had to spin in return and that
Speaker 1: where you know, everybody goes, oh my God, he's back
Speaker 1: to having dropped foot, you know, right, I mean, and
Speaker 1: that was Seriously, that's that's where it's become. So four
Speaker 1: bad plays out of like forty something snaps, A lot
Speaker 1: of guys have dropped foot when they have that pitch back.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that that's what I'm saying. He was aggressively
Speaker 1: trying to attack down. Healed him, and then he and
Speaker 1: then he had to spend to go back. And by
Speaker 1: that time, though, you know, Williams, the receiver had run
Speaker 1: all the way across the field and they dumped the
Speaker 1: ball behind him, and so yeah, it looks bad. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of plays too where I felt like
Speaker 1: he didn't really get in position. He overran a play,
Speaker 1: he had the defensive holding pilling, but what do you
Speaker 1: do on the next play he caused a fumble after
Speaker 1: the defensive holding penalty. So you know, to say that,
Speaker 1: you know that people, I think people are being very
Speaker 1: critical of this group. And again I will take blame
Speaker 1: for this. I will take blame for being for influencing
Speaker 1: people to say, I feel like this linebacking cores is
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league. I feel like
Speaker 1: this this it's the strength of this defense, they're going
Speaker 1: to find a way. You know, we we're just not
Speaker 1: seeing the splash play is the ripping the ball out
Speaker 1: of the guy's hands, you know, on the goal line.
Speaker 1: That's a splash play. But we'll haven't seen it down
Speaker 1: after down after down. And if if that's where people
Speaker 1: are expecting, and I think a lot of it has
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that you got a new
Speaker 1: contract extension. We all like to look at the player
Speaker 1: and say, oh my god, we've paid to Marcus Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Now look he can't play. Oh look, we've paid Jane Smith.
Speaker 1: He can't play now. You know when Dak Prescott gets paid,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he can't play now either. It's a
Speaker 1: different there's but I will take if you want to
Speaker 1: put that on me for for saying that this was
Speaker 1: one of the best, as potentially be one of the
Speaker 1: best linebacking groups in the league, and they're not playing
Speaker 1: to that level, then in fine point the finger at
Speaker 1: me for saying that and maybe raising your expectations. But yeah,
Speaker 1: can this group play better as a whole, Yeah they can,
Speaker 1: but they feel like that they're not playing, that they're
Speaker 1: not capable of playing better, you know, And pointing the
Speaker 1: finger at at them for that, and I think that's
Speaker 1: the wrong I think you're on something with the with
Speaker 1: the splash plays because he and Layton together they don't
Speaker 1: have any tackles for loss. They have they haven't blown
Speaker 1: up plays necessarily. Yeah, but they've made plays. And like
Speaker 1: I said yesterday, the run defense. I know, these offenses
Speaker 1: they're playing right now so far have not been dominant offenses,
Speaker 1: but they've done a better job against the run. I'm
Speaker 1: really interested to see how they handle Kamara in this game.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't ask for a better big offensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to get off some blocks and go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Jason talked just now about tackling. That's that's line
Speaker 1: one with this defense, and that's line one really for
Speaker 1: this matchup on Sunday. Seeing a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of Joe Thomas's snaps when when when they were used
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith as a pass rusher, they had more linebackers
Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, so Thomas was playing linebacker while
Speaker 1: he was kind of technically a pass rusher and making
Speaker 1: it a four man line instead of a three man line.
Speaker 1: If you want an evaluation of the linebackers as a whole.
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas should be playing ahead of Shawn Lee if
Speaker 1: you want, if you want a real evaluation of that,
Speaker 1: you know it because to me, the Shawn Lee, the
Speaker 1: players you're getting from Shawn Lee are not impacting you
Speaker 1: the way they need to be. Now again, that's just
Speaker 1: me looking at looking at If you're gonna play bass,
Speaker 1: go ahead and put Joe Thomas on the field if
Speaker 1: that's what you want to do. If you feel like
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a more physical player, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a better tackler, what at all? But Sean Lee
Speaker 1: is the one to me if you say, okay, where
Speaker 1: is this guy? You know? At the level level is
Speaker 1: he playing at right now? I don't think you're getting
Speaker 1: out of Seawan Lee what you expected to get out
Speaker 1: of Shaan Lee. And they, obviously the coaches thought that
Speaker 1: because they played him for Smith and they played him
Speaker 1: for Lee. You know Thomas, you know the player he
Speaker 1: was in twenty past plays, ten runs, those are those
Speaker 1: are the pet plays he defended in this game. So
Speaker 1: obviously they feel like that in base it's better or
Speaker 1: Nickel it's better, and that's what they're gonna do. How
Speaker 1: much do you expect the Saints to be in Nickel
Speaker 1: as a post base in this offense. I think they
Speaker 1: want to, you know, I think they want to find
Speaker 1: ways to get the Cowboys spread out if they can,
Speaker 1: and then and run Kamara downhill. I think they. I
Speaker 1: don't think Sean Payton. I don't think Sean Payton really
Speaker 1: believes in Dallas has run defense. I don't think he
Speaker 1: probably feels like my offensive line can get enough push
Speaker 1: and can create problems. And you know, he's probably looking
Speaker 1: at Dallas and saying, yeah, maybe they're tackling a little
Speaker 1: bit better. But he saw that Giant's game. You know,
Speaker 1: he saw what a big physical back can do to
Speaker 1: this team. Now that Cowboys did a better job against
Speaker 1: a big physical back in Week two against Washington. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, this offensive line is the best offensive
Speaker 1: line that they get they've faced this point. It's just
Speaker 1: it's just that that's what did. They've done a nice
Speaker 1: job with that. But they're gonna lean on They're going
Speaker 1: to lean on this running back and they're gonna lean
Speaker 1: on Thomas for this game because they got to do
Speaker 1: everything they can to help Bridgewater and keep him out
Speaker 1: of harm's way. That's why I said yesterday, the nickel
Speaker 1: back's going to be very important in this game because
Speaker 1: he's gonna spread them out and get That's why I'm
Speaker 1: asking That's why I'm asking the question. Is I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at snapcounts from last week in Seattle for New Orleans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they they've only got two tight ends on their roster,
Speaker 1: and it would be Jed Jared Cook and Josh Hill. Ye,
Speaker 1: Cook had forty four They had fifty eight total offensive snaps.
Speaker 1: Cook was on the field for forty four snaps and
Speaker 1: Hill for thirty four snaps. Right, so they were more
Speaker 1: in their two tight end formation than they were in
Speaker 1: the nickels. They might have been worried about the Seattle's
Speaker 1: pass rest and that and that, and also playing on
Speaker 1: the road exactly in that environment, they wanted to keep
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Right now, I'm wondering if they playing at home,
Speaker 1: they can Bridgewater with a game under his belt now
Speaker 1: two games total basically now. But but back at home,
Speaker 1: if maybe they'll take a different approach. I just don't
Speaker 1: think they're going to ask more of Bridgewater. They're gonna
Speaker 1: ask more of Kamara. Yeah, much more can you ask? Well?
Speaker 1: He he had he touched the ball twenty five times.
Speaker 1: They may say you're gonna touch at thirty times. No.
Speaker 1: If if Dallas proves that they can't handle the run
Speaker 1: and don't tackle well enough, you know, we could have
Speaker 1: one of those games where you know, where we were
Speaker 1: several years ago, it felt like they had fifty first
Speaker 1: downs in the game. I mean short of short of
Speaker 1: the guys, uh my example here pass catching skills. This
Speaker 1: is like trying to track down Barry Sanders. This guy
Speaker 1: is just all over the place, and he's bigger. He
Speaker 1: lines up everywhere. He can run, like Garrett said, just now,
Speaker 1: he can run inside. He's not that scatback type guy.
Speaker 1: But I but I do. I mean, of course he's
Speaker 1: going to be heavily featured. But I just wonder, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple starts in the game in the season now
Speaker 1: with Bridgewater, do they get him a little bit more involved?
Speaker 1: Is he a little bit more comfortable? I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that's it. I think they have to do a
Speaker 1: certain degree. You can't just lean on one guy. I'll
Speaker 1: win a football game. I'll say this, Bridgewater can't win
Speaker 1: a shootout against Dak Prescott. I don't think he can. Well,
Speaker 1: they didn't even try throwing the ball down the fields.
Speaker 1: And when I say down the field, I don't mean
Speaker 1: like forty yard deep, yeah, I mean the intermediate passes
Speaker 1: to keep defenses. Honest. There his passes, the majority of
Speaker 1: them were dump off screens and little short outs. I
Speaker 1: mean I think he averaged like five. I have to
Speaker 1: look it up, anyone. Let me let me ask you
Speaker 1: this though, guys, So after what you've seen Dallas having
Speaker 1: to defend balls down the field, should you try to
Speaker 1: throw the ball down? It's the easiest pass to throw
Speaker 1: throw it deep because because two things are good, he
Speaker 1: either catches it or interference or its interference. The bad
Speaker 1: thing is it gets broken up. Yeah, so I'm taking
Speaker 1: my chances with that. That's what I would do with
Speaker 1: young and not a young but a backup quarterback like
Speaker 1: that one. How do you think Garrett was was successful
Speaker 1: on that Thanksgiving Day a game against the Packers. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: just throw it deep. To Brill's advice, right, let lend
Speaker 1: Elven go up and catch it, throw it high. Pretty simple.
Speaker 1: Were you about to guess on Bridgewater's yards perk per
Speaker 1: attempt six point six point five one hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: seven yards passing twenty seven attempts. He was nineteen out
Speaker 1: of twenty seven. I was gonna say five. I had
Speaker 1: half of it, and there's the wrong half. And there
Speaker 1: were times he passed up dump off screens to Camara
Speaker 1: that could have lowered that even more. Go back and
Speaker 1: watch the game. So yeah, I mean it's but I
Speaker 1: do I think there is something to getting him comfortable
Speaker 1: to a point where as the season goes along without Breeze,
Speaker 1: he's there's a little bit more on his plate, and
Speaker 1: I think I think you could see that in this game.
Speaker 1: We'll see. Yeah, I'm thinking that Camara's yards after contact
Speaker 1: might have increased, increased attempt because the ball wasn't traveling
Speaker 1: a lot in the air. Right there you go, and
Speaker 1: probably we expect about the same this week, although it'll
Speaker 1: be more interesting plan at home for Bridgewater and the
Speaker 1: Saints elsewhere. As far as injuries are concerned, we get
Speaker 1: to those. After the break. I heard in my ear, okay,
Speaker 1: not hearing that. So you were supposed to throw it
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars for this game. Be a big night in
Speaker 1: the quarter on Saturday. Got two for you for twenty
Speaker 1: five hundred. Where's what's your favorite city to go to? Um?
Speaker 1: What's your favorite city to go to? And keep in
Speaker 1: mind whether it's a Sunday night game or a Sunday
Speaker 1: noon game. Well, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what it used to be San Francisco when we stayed
Speaker 1: in San Francisco and the game was in San Francisco. Um,
Speaker 1: I always enjoy the trip to Green Bay. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a I like the historic places. It's
Speaker 1: just like my auto racing life. I like whole old
Speaker 1: historic tracks. So give me the old historic places to
Speaker 1: go play football. Soldier Field before they put that thing
Speaker 1: in the middle of it was a really good place
Speaker 1: to college gun accounts since I grew up there. Green
Speaker 1: Bay is great because you drive, you take the bus
Speaker 1: through the neighborhoods. Here's an autoparts store. Yeah, most famous
Speaker 1: arena stadium and Trude on the on the parch waving.
Speaker 1: They don't have middle Fleet. But you know what for
Speaker 1: a big city, Philadelphia is a lot of fun. It is.
Speaker 1: You can hear the eggs hitting the bus. That I
Speaker 1: mean just the night before the game is fun. And
Speaker 1: then I don't know, they turn into zombies in the
Speaker 1: next day. In the stadium, periscope is asking Kansas City
Speaker 1: can't see interestreament. We only go on there a couple time.
Speaker 1: I've only been there once. Yeah, it's a hard place
Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, I mean as far as stadium, but
Speaker 1: he said, He said the city, the city, Yeah, just
Speaker 1: as far as yeah got you, and Mickey quickly said,
Speaker 1: other than New Orleans. Yeah, you know what's fair Vegas?
Speaker 1: Saturday night Vegas. No, I'm talking about eating. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: look for to Vegas. I'm looking for to bagas. What
Speaker 1: do you got? And you got football stuff over here? Well,
Speaker 1: what about you? You've gone on the road. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I have actually never been to Green Bay. I've never
Speaker 1: been on a Green Bay trip because these days I
Speaker 1: stay back and like Brian's doing and staying back and
Speaker 1: doing pregames San Francisco, when we were doing the pregame show,
Speaker 1: yeah and you were, you didn't. My favorite week covering
Speaker 1: the Cowboys ever was the NFC Championship game in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety two, and I was sent ahead and I was
Speaker 1: in San Francisco all week previewing it from and going
Speaker 1: out to the forty nine ers practice facility, doing stuff
Speaker 1: from Dwight Clark's restaurant and so forth. That's also my
Speaker 1: favorite game ever as far as the Cowboys are concerned.
Speaker 1: That NFC Championship game in ninety two, the next one
Speaker 1: in ninety four, we stayed downtown San Francisco. Oh you weren't.
Speaker 1: I think John Radigan was there. But the ninety two
Speaker 1: there we had a pregame show, John RADI get an
Speaker 1: eye from the hotel billing you up right now. Bill
Speaker 1: was back running the thing at the station. Do you
Speaker 1: remember Rob. I'm just kidding Ryan, it's a joke. It's
Speaker 1: a joke. I will say this. There was an earthquake
Speaker 1: the night before the Yes, the ninety two NFC Championship game,
Speaker 1: and we were in the in the media of the
Speaker 1: hospitality room. Sure you were, absolutely And then I hope
Speaker 1: they have Chris had good food up there. And then
Speaker 1: I ate it. Basta pasta. All right, we tease any
Speaker 1: other questions we teased injury such a show today. Thanks
Speaker 1: guys for healthy guys, getting guys getting healthy back on
Speaker 1: the practice field. Yeah, that's the most important thing is
Speaker 1: you know. The thing is I wanted to be where
Speaker 1: they have decisions they have to make about their inactives.
Speaker 1: You know, last week it was pretty easy. I know,
Speaker 1: you get six guys that can't play, but I think
Speaker 1: I think it's worth keeping an eye on for Xavier Woods.
Speaker 1: Even though Thompson played pretty well for you last week.
Speaker 1: Any you need Xavier Woods out there there. There's a
Speaker 1: certain bit of physicality he brings to the game, there's
Speaker 1: a certain bit of ball hawking, and he brings to
Speaker 1: the game instincts cover. I mean, if and the Saints
Speaker 1: are gonna want to work the middle of the field,
Speaker 1: that's big. I mean, I'm talked about it in my matchups.
Speaker 1: You watch Thomas run these routes. Everything is inside, inside, inside,
Speaker 1: and so you know you need somebody if if those guys,
Speaker 1: if Byron Jones is holding up on the edge pretty
Speaker 1: well and allows he's safety. We've seen the safeties get
Speaker 1: their hands on more footballs the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Why because the corners, the corners they you know, we've
Speaker 1: seen now safeties driving on football. Safeties getting their hands
Speaker 1: on Jeff heat the last couple of weeks. One hit
Speaker 1: him in the head, one he was going and four
Speaker 1: you almost had the interception. Should have had the interception
Speaker 1: right there. But I'll tell you what though, you know,
Speaker 1: he it's a it's you know, having Woods out there,
Speaker 1: I think is really really big, and I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna They're supposed to practice on a limited basis, so
Speaker 1: I would think that's a good sign absolutely of him
Speaker 1: and Tavon Austin being ready to go. I would imagine
Speaker 1: since Gifford has missed so much time, he said he
Speaker 1: would be limited. But I'm thinking he's got at least
Speaker 1: practice twice two weeks before they put it out. I
Speaker 1: think it's you're just getting him acclimated again. And absolutely
Speaker 1: I wonder if so there's there's four inactives right off
Speaker 1: the bat, then which ones you got Crawford, Woods, Gifford,
Speaker 1: and Gallows, Gallop and Gallop. Yeah, Gallops another week by.
Speaker 1: It'd be nice to have Gallop in this game. He
Speaker 1: lived these guys up. You know, they won this game
Speaker 1: last year. I went back and a watch the game
Speaker 1: just to kind of get an idea, you know, like
Speaker 1: I was watching Cam Jordan and m Rush and seeing
Speaker 1: how he was going to do against Lao Collins. You
Speaker 1: realize the right the left side of that offensive line
Speaker 1: was flaming Sue of Philo and Joe Luney at center.
Speaker 1: That's how they won that game with those guys. I
Speaker 1: mean it was tough. Suefilo was struggling bad. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: why they scored thirteen points. Oh well, they had you know,
Speaker 1: the fumble do you remember the fumble? Do you remember
Speaker 1: I remember Amari Cooper catching the ball inside and fumbling.
Speaker 1: Remember they got the ball, they were they were on
Speaker 1: a drive. The Cowboys were on a drive. I forgot
Speaker 1: about this way. Yeah. He catches a slant inside on
Speaker 1: I think it was on Apple and he's running. He
Speaker 1: gets tackled in the middle of the field and fumbles
Speaker 1: the ball. And Dallas was on a drive. So you know,
Speaker 1: there's some things that happened in that game that you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, how about the fourth down stop that they made,
Speaker 1: the goal line stand that they made. You know, there's
Speaker 1: some good football that's It might be the last time
Speaker 1: we've seen this defense really play, just shut down. They
Speaker 1: had Drew Brees just rattled in that game. Yea, and
Speaker 1: then they're gonna need to rattle Teddy Bridgewater and again
Speaker 1: in this game. Tank Lawrence was everywhere in that game,
Speaker 1: just everywhere. Yeah, and yeah, that's we talked about yesterday.
Speaker 1: I think that's the best defensive performance I've seen them
Speaker 1: have in ten years. Yeah. Ryan mcheck better buckle it
Speaker 1: up this week at right tackle for the Saints. You
Speaker 1: know they have a big offensive line. Get ready for it.
Speaker 1: I bet to the Cowboys move their front a lot,
Speaker 1: trying to keep stay active, stay going. Don't let this
Speaker 1: front get their hands on You gotta tackle, like you
Speaker 1: were talking about Rob Gotta tackle in this game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, tackle you're probably gonna lose. Well, that guy's
Speaker 1: hard to tackle. He is hard to tackle. You can
Speaker 1: tackle well and not tackle him. Yep, that's true. So
Speaker 1: how much do you think Sean Payton looks at the
Speaker 1: game last year in terms of putting a game plan together.
Speaker 1: He probably looks in and says, I shouldn't do this,
Speaker 1: and I shouldn't do this, and I shouldn't do this.
Speaker 1: There's some things they probably went into that game feeling
Speaker 1: like they could be pretty effective at and they did
Speaker 1: not execute well at all. But give Dallas a lot
Speaker 1: of credit. Christopher Shard, Rod Marrine. I had a great
Speaker 1: game plan and to put to put George Lewis in
Speaker 1: that situation allow him to play as well as he did.
Speaker 1: But that that they got, they got bodies to the
Speaker 1: ball last year in that game, they really did. And
Speaker 1: the Cowboys offensively did enough, you know, to maintain I
Speaker 1: mean they Jack Prescott had some great scramble runs that
Speaker 1: he made, so yeah. I mean they're they're in a
Speaker 1: little bit of a situation that Saints you're a little
Speaker 1: bit of a bind. You know. They here, they come
Speaker 1: out playing Russell Wilson, who's an active mobile quarterback, the
Speaker 1: read option stuff, you know, and then you get another
Speaker 1: dose of read option coming this week at you with
Speaker 1: some of those plays, and you know, I like, I say,
Speaker 1: Sean's gonna look in and say, okay, I would I'll
Speaker 1: call that game differently than I did last year and
Speaker 1: try and make this work. Well, the difference is going
Speaker 1: to be as Kamara is going to be out there.
Speaker 1: If they got seventy snaps, he's gonna get sixty. He was,
Speaker 1: he was just kind of an extra player. Last year.
Speaker 1: They tried to run it with Ingram. Yeah, uh that
Speaker 1: that ain't happening this time. And I think when they
Speaker 1: get you know, you mentioned Jordan Lewis and I don't
Speaker 1: know that they'll do this, but if you got Kamara
Speaker 1: back there and they're in they're in their nickel offense
Speaker 1: with three wide and it's third and say five to whatever,
Speaker 1: Cowboy's got to go dime and put Lewis in there
Speaker 1: because he's got to keep an eye not only on Kamara,
Speaker 1: but the quarterback will pick it off and I mean
Speaker 1: take off and run too. But yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: different situation. I feel like with Breeze not being in
Speaker 1: the game, Breeze is so good at getting rid of
Speaker 1: the ball when he reads blitz the swing. This is
Speaker 1: where Kamara will kill you on the swing pass and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. It breezes in there, he'll just lob
Speaker 1: it over the top of the blitz. And then so
Speaker 1: with Bridgewater, I'm coming after Bridgewater. I mean, if it
Speaker 1: means Smith and everybody attacking that that line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and making those guys have to hold heck, I would
Speaker 1: try and blitz him to the point of making Kamara
Speaker 1: have to stay in and block. You know, That's what
Speaker 1: I would do. If you could force him to have
Speaker 1: to not get out and route because he's got to
Speaker 1: pick up a blitz, that might be a good plan
Speaker 1: for them to think about. And this game is you know,
Speaker 1: because if you could affect Bridgewater, I think because his
Speaker 1: eye level will come down. I saw him the Rams
Speaker 1: do it and then he had no form of a
Speaker 1: running game at all, and when he came in there,
Speaker 1: and I know he didn't prepare but he's a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 1: He should have been ready to play in the game.
Speaker 1: But the Ams came after him and that eye level
Speaker 1: went down and he wasn't complete and passes, and the
Speaker 1: Rams did a great job. I mean, the Rams have
Speaker 1: got are a really good pass rush. We all know that.
Speaker 1: But you know the Cowboys can have an effective pass
Speaker 1: rush too. I'm coming after Bridgewater. I'm taking my chances.
Speaker 1: I know with Breeze, I think Breeze can burn me
Speaker 1: on the blitz. I don't think this guy can burn
Speaker 1: me on the blitz. That's what I'm gonna get to
Speaker 1: him before he can get rid of the ball. That's
Speaker 1: my plan. Looking at last year's game, Kamara was actually
Speaker 1: on the field for thirty six snaps and Ingram for
Speaker 1: twenty one. It's the Cowboys, and he touched at nineteen times.
Speaker 1: Ingram touched it nine times back in the game in December. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was more of a true split back then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking up, what do you I mean, he
Speaker 1: pretty much played every snap against Seattle last week all
Speaker 1: but has to maybe nine something like that yet, right,
Speaker 1: I mean they bury as well, But yeah, Petted, you
Speaker 1: don't see him too often, right, I think to just you,
Speaker 1: I think you're going to get a steady diet of
Speaker 1: him in this game. Sean Payton is going to say, okay,
Speaker 1: it's to me. It's gonna be a matter of which
Speaker 1: defense can keep the other one from running. I know
Speaker 1: it sounds crazy when you get the Saints and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys playing a game, but but both teams are going
Speaker 1: to try and hammer the ball at the other team
Speaker 1: and see which one of them breaks. That's what I
Speaker 1: think is going to happen to blitzing running all these
Speaker 1: kinds of things. See what the Cowboys have to be
Speaker 1: careful though, is the way they play their defensive line.
Speaker 1: What everybody want to get off the ball and get
Speaker 1: up the field that they better hope that they don't
Speaker 1: use that against them, and throwing those little swing passes
Speaker 1: to the outside because you get him out in the
Speaker 1: in space one on one, it's not a good matchup
Speaker 1: for the defense, even though you got a spy on him.
Speaker 1: So Periscope says, their blitz never gets home. I just
Speaker 1: told you that that Smith Smith blitzed and again they
Speaker 1: got they got Collins home for a sack. It does,
Speaker 1: it does get there? You know you get Sometimes you
Speaker 1: get these veteran quarterbacks that will get rid of the ball.
Speaker 1: You start affecting a quarterback, hitting him a bunch in
Speaker 1: the game, that's just as good. That's just as good
Speaker 1: as a sack. But sorry, pariscope, that's not right. They
Speaker 1: brought Smith on a blitz, they got him inside and
Speaker 1: they got Collins home on the rush. How much do
Speaker 1: the Saints miss Sheldon Rankins. I guess there's a chance
Speaker 1: he could be back this week before next heard, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's heart had injury. Yeah, but I tell you what, though,
Speaker 1: they've had this this Malcolm Brown from Texas. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then and then the I'm in the butcher. This guy's
Speaker 1: name David Amata is Animata got a sack last year
Speaker 1: in the game. You know he beat he beat uh,
Speaker 1: he beat a sue of Philo. He just overpowered Sue
Speaker 1: Philo and went around the corner and got it. Dak
Speaker 1: On a sack there, and Cam Jordan had a sack
Speaker 1: in that game too. I think Calboys will be better
Speaker 1: offensively with the offensive line now, of course, with you know,
Speaker 1: with Martin in there playing, you know, when you got
Speaker 1: Frederick in there playing, you know, Connor Williams hopefully, hopefully
Speaker 1: will improve a little bit more as these things go on. Smith,
Speaker 1: I told you who was on the left side of
Speaker 1: that offensive Line's damn lucky they didn't have eight sacks
Speaker 1: in that game. You know. That's that's that's the underlooked
Speaker 1: point of this offense right now, is that Dak isn't
Speaker 1: getting He's getting pressured some, but he's not getting touched
Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot. And I think it
Speaker 1: is it one sack. He's being able to set his
Speaker 1: feet and kind of survey the field and go through
Speaker 1: his reads and do almost to a fault like on
Speaker 1: his interception last week, but kind of gets what he wants.
Speaker 1: It's just a different it's a different story this year.
Speaker 1: And again, I think that's the key. That's one of
Speaker 1: the keys for me every week is if can they
Speaker 1: affect Dak Prescott because if they can't, they're gonna basically
Speaker 1: do what they've been doing. Yeah, one sack means, by
Speaker 1: the way, one sack does mean you got home. That's
Speaker 1: just there you go, and we take it home here
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Speaker 1: If I can't Yeah, if you go to Scotsy or
Speaker 1: from the game, it's Witten was on a double team
Speaker 1: block with with Collins and he and he's got taco
Speaker 1: and they're driving him in the next week and basically
Speaker 1: like the play, is over and Witness like still blocking
Speaker 1: him and like gives him this big shove and like
Speaker 1: he was trying to like push him over somebody on
Speaker 1: the ground and it, you know, and it w Witten
Speaker 1: turned back around and looked at him and said something like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you never you know, I need to ask Witten what
Speaker 1: he said to him. But Taco kind of just kind
Speaker 1: of doesn't look at him and Wit. I know Witten
Speaker 1: said something to him because he just two hands shoved
Speaker 1: him as the play. As the play was, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to unpile and Witten is still blocking him
Speaker 1: down the field, you know. But I have to ask
Speaker 1: with what he said. No, it made me laugh to
Speaker 1: watch him do it, because Witten's kind of a chippy
Speaker 1: guy that way. Maybe maybe he said you, I'm going
Speaker 1: to get you some chicken nuggets. Yeah, on the way home.
Speaker 1: I don't know about yes, yes, yes, that question was
Speaker 1: asked today by Clarence and the walk off. I missed
Speaker 1: that chicken nuggets. Oh yeah, it's Dak feeling more comfortable
Speaker 1: in the huddle. Is he feeling more comfortable now he's
Speaker 1: talking about chicken nuggets? So was Jason aware of the
Speaker 1: NFL Films gave it. Garrett gave him a look like,
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Speaker 1: hear one clip out of a million that he's had
Speaker 1: last three years, and speaking of that, we have no
Speaker 1: idea even though he's in the huddle, we have no
Speaker 1: idea what the context of that is he because it
Speaker 1: could have been. You know, DA's been pretty comfortable since
Speaker 1: he took this thing over with all the question. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be with you tomorrow because I've got
Speaker 1: TV duties. But there is a large game on Thursday night,
Speaker 1: Philadelphia plays at green Bay. How big could this game be?
Speaker 1: From a Cowboys perspective? If the Eagles go into Green
Speaker 1: Bay and lose, Cowboys win Sunday night, they could have
Speaker 1: a three game lead on the goals through four weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going at the quarter point of the season, three
Speaker 1: game league with twelve to go. What's what's the magic number? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's the magic number? There? For sure? I believe ten.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's interesting they're looking around the league
Speaker 1: and just it's only three games. Yeah, but they get
Speaker 1: to play the Dolphins. They already played the Redskins, right,
Speaker 1: and then they they haven't played the Giants. I think
Speaker 1: they that's games coming up. Yeah, so yeah, they might
Speaker 1: make those games up as well. So I'll have to
Speaker 1: you know, I think with the Eagles, what do we
Speaker 1: got going here? We got a bunch of injuries. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's see. Why is the Eagle schedule? What Jaguars? What?
Speaker 1: You want the Eagle schedule? Yeah, I mean I want
Speaker 1: the Eagle schedule. I want to know who they're playing
Speaker 1: after this, because they got there. They got the Jets
Speaker 1: on October sixth, Okay, so that's yeah, that's probably a
Speaker 1: win right there. Then at the Vikings, Okay, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be difficult. It's not easy to play that Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: then at the Cowboys, Okay, so yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: can then at the bill who are unbeaten right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: To me, this yeah, this is a game that you know,
Speaker 1: this is a game that they clearly have to go
Speaker 1: in there and play better and find a way to win.
Speaker 1: They gave win away the other day. So they're starting
Speaker 1: to stretch here where four of the next five games
Speaker 1: are on the road way back. Yeah, they got at
Speaker 1: Green Bay and then home against the Jets and then
Speaker 1: at Minnesota at Dallas at Buffalo, Yeah, and then Chicago
Speaker 1: and New England and Seattle at home, three straight road
Speaker 1: at home games. Yeah. So but look at that NFC North, No,
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, everybody's got a winning record in
Speaker 1: the YA. That's exactly right. You mean Detroit's doing a
Speaker 1: much better job in the secondary. Man, they're they're playing
Speaker 1: pretty well with that, you know. I like them going
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia and winning the way they did one game
Speaker 1: at a time. Absolutely absolutely. Well. That's the other thing.
Speaker 1: If you go back and look after three weeks last year,
Speaker 1: and it's it's I looked a couple of days ago,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay was up at the top of their Miami
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's early. It's so early early, and
Speaker 1: things turn around, but it does seem like there's more
Speaker 1: of a division between the halves and the have nots
Speaker 1: now for to me anyway. Well, but there's always teams
Speaker 1: that I mean, there are some definite have nots right now,
Speaker 1: but there's teams that start strong that you wonder can
Speaker 1: they keep it up? Can San Francisco keep it exactly
Speaker 1: so they're not one of them? And New England keep
Speaker 1: it up? Yeah, I think they can. But you know, this.
Speaker 1: But you know what, this applies to the Saints too,
Speaker 1: because I we talk about desperate team theory. I think
Speaker 1: they're a desperate team until Breeze gets back. I think
Speaker 1: they can't afford to lose game. They need to tread
Speaker 1: water until he can get back. And you know, you
Speaker 1: look at their schedule after this, Tampa Bay, Jacksonville, Chicago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the problem is their division. You know, can can
Speaker 1: they You talk about tread water? You know, are they are?
Speaker 1: They need to do well, That's what I'm saying. Though
Speaker 1: Carolina is not playing well, Tampa is not playing well.
Speaker 1: At Lanta? What are they? I mean they would they
Speaker 1: look good against you know, maybe Philadelphia is not any good,
Speaker 1: But they beat Philadelphia home and then go to Indianapolis
Speaker 1: and get beat what's Atlanta? If you can get a
Speaker 1: home win against this, a game that on paper maybe
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to win, no question, feather in your
Speaker 1: cap and you can go and get back to what's
Speaker 1: the line on this game? I don't know if they're
Speaker 1: not supposed to win it. I think it's three and
Speaker 1: a half. Saint Dallas is favored by three and a half.
Speaker 1: I think I don't know. I'm a gambler, But I
Speaker 1: don't know that line. Green Bay is minus four in
Speaker 1: this game. Not green Bay to play in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Come on, I dropping dealing with five different things. Okay,
Speaker 1: well then I'm gonna give you some time off. So
Speaker 1: so I keep reading about how the Cowboys preseason's over,
Speaker 1: right because the easy opponents. Sure, New England has beaten
Speaker 1: and three Pittsburgh and three Miami and oh and three Jets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there, that's why there are seasons over there. Nobody
Speaker 1: saw Pittsburg. The Cowboys opponents are one and eight, by
Speaker 1: the way, so they've got a game lead on the Patriots. Right,
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