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Speaker 1: Okay, guys, I am officially on my High and Mighty tour.

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Speaker 1: March twentieth is Denver, Colorado. March twenty seventh Portland, Maine.

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Speaker 1: March twenty eighth, Providence, Rhode Island. March twenty ninth, Springfield, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 1: April tenth is Chicago. I'll be at the Chicago Theater.

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Speaker 1: April eleventh Indianapolis, Indiana. April twelfth Louisville, Kentucky. April sixteenth

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Speaker 1: is Albuquerque, New Mexico. April seventeenth is Masa, Arizona. April

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Speaker 1: twenty third is Kansas City, Missouri. April twenty fourth is

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Missouri. April twenty fifth is Minneapolis, Minnesota. April

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Speaker 1: thirtieth Nashville, Tennessee. May first is Charlotte, North Carolina. May

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Speaker 1: second is Durham, North Carolina. May sixth I'm doing Netflix

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Speaker 1: as a joke festival. I will be in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: May fifteenth, Saratoga, California. May sixteenth, Monterey, California. May seventeenth Modesto, California,

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Speaker 1: and then June.

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Speaker 2: Fourth Portchester, New York.

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Speaker 1: June fifth is Boston in mass and June twelfth is Portland, Oregon.

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Speaker 2: And then Seattle is June thirteenth.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing a second show at the Paramount Theater in

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Speaker 1: Denver on Saturday, December fifth.

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Speaker 2: So suck on that. Everybody. Go to Chelseahandler dot com

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Speaker 2: for tickets.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Hi Catherine, Good morning, Chelsea, Good morning.

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Speaker 4: Are you skiing right now?

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Speaker 2: I am in Aspen. Yes, we're skiing. There's yes, the

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Speaker 2: conditions are well, it's beautiful here, so it doesn't even matter.

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Speaker 2: There's no snow anywhere in this world, I don't think anymore.

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Speaker 1: But yes, I was hosting a gala, a gala, oh

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Speaker 1: children's oncology like COSF in Aspen, where they were honoring

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Speaker 1: Goldiehan my mother, my illegitimate mother, and so I was

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Speaker 1: the host, and so I brought some friends and we

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Speaker 1: skied yesterday and we're going to ski today.

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Speaker 2: Then I have shows this weekend in Springfield, Massachusetts, and Portland,

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Speaker 2: do Main and Rhode Island. Oh my gosh, sorry, does

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Speaker 2: Goldie know about your private Benjamin fiasco?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she knows about it. And I did it.

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Speaker 1: My own monologue was about my private Benjamin fiasco where

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Speaker 1: I pretended to be a Goldie, where I pretended I

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Speaker 1: was playing Goldie Hawn's.

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Speaker 6: Daughter in the sequel to Private Benjamin.

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Speaker 2: But there was never a sequel to Private Benjamin. So

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Speaker 2: but I needed people in third grade to respect me,

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Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Absolutely?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I spent the weekend going to San Diego to see

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Speaker 3: my sister and nephew because he's looking at schools there.

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Speaker 3: And I decided instead of driving the two hours, to

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Speaker 3: take the train for four hours.

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Speaker 6: And how did that go?

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Speaker 3: It was actually wonderful because it's the Surfliner. It goes

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Speaker 3: along the coast. I got to watch the sunset. I

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Speaker 3: added a little whimsy to my life.

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Speaker 4: I was very excited.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice whimsy. I like whimsy for a train.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a jew, so trains and I I

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Speaker 1: have an allergic reaction to trains.

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Speaker 2: It's intergenerational trauma.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's totally fair.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, we have a very funny guest today. He's one

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Speaker 1: of my old friends and you'll know him from Chelsea Lately.

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Speaker 1: Among other things, he's on Platonic, he's been on Hacks.

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Speaker 1: He's very very funny writer, comedian. I wanted to just

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Speaker 1: have a nice time with an old friend. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: Guy Brannam. Radlet's dishovel today, he looks like something happens.

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Speaker 4: We're trying a new hairstyle.

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Speaker 2: We're trying, Oh I see, I see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really blow outa tell me like it.

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Speaker 2: I told that's a cowboy too.

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Speaker 1: I was like, how I had this hair where I

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Speaker 1: like pushing his hair back.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you're gorgeous. Why do you have your hair?

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Speaker 4: You're like twelve seven. I love that for.

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Speaker 2: You, cowboy boy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't even know that, possibly, but I forgot it.

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Speaker 2: If you need a thirty seven year old, I can't

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Speaker 2: go older now I'm fifty one.

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Speaker 7: You need some life, You need some life.

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Speaker 1: I know you need somebody else to keep you up

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Speaker 1: to speed on things.

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Speaker 7: Also, and I said this to you before, but I

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Speaker 7: honestly feel like, if I I were a woman, I

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Speaker 7: the gender reality that we were raised in. You know,

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Speaker 7: I would want somebody with like a mom who was

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Speaker 1: Ok, That's exactly how I feel, exactly. Because we were

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Speaker 1: just talking about this, yeah getting the update, with yeah

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Speaker 2: Yes, and they don't get it.

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Speaker 1: So like younger is better because anyone under I was

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Speaker 1: trying to say, we were talking to Giton Madrazo from

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Speaker 1: But like I was trying to include Cowboy because he's

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Speaker 1: under forty, but it's really under thirty. Yes, that people

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Speaker 2: But it's really.

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Speaker 7: And we all need our updates. They really are Like

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Speaker 7: as I get older, realizing it's like, oh, I do

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Speaker 7: have to just think about should I be seeing this differently?

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Speaker 7: And there are some things where the children I am like,

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Speaker 7: you're being idiots about this, but I will respect it.

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Speaker 7: And there are other things where they're right and it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 7: it's time to get with the program.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know the R word, Okay, I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to say it here. I don't think it's the

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Speaker 2: It's offensive to people.

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Speaker 7: The hilarious thing is is that like at shitty open

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Speaker 7: in the day. And it is just sort of like

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Speaker 7: it's like it feels like progress that their bad boy

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Speaker 3: Something like that, right, right, And they think they're being

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Speaker 3: so original, but with our word like yaminika do you

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Speaker 7: Of course?

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Speaker 1: The other night, we were in Cleveland and we were

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Speaker 2: my god, she doesn't think she can do it. Make

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Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, that wind is so scary. And

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Speaker 2: then she's like, how the fuck are you so strong?

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: We were trying to figure out actually what happens when

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Speaker 7: I mean, is this an argument for chair pilates. Should

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Speaker 7: I mean, he's very exciting when you have a wind

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Speaker 7: that really does make you feel like, uh oh, yeah,

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Speaker 7: getting tossed around by a wave I love. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: I mean I think it's all about core. But like

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Speaker 2: Just you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I can't have people like her and thinking they can

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Speaker 2: Pake you up.

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Speaker 7: You've been going out on the road with Yamanika, You've

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Speaker 7: been having Megan Gaily time, You've been having a lovely

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Speaker 1: Rachel Feinstein has been opening for me a little bit,

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Speaker 1: Amina Amani, do you know? I mean, she's really funny.

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Speaker 1: and I. She slept with me twice this weekend. She

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Speaker 1: double booked her hotels. She's so fucking disorganized, So I

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Speaker 2: And after this weekend, I literally couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I feel like I haven't slept in

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Speaker 1: thirty six hours, so I can't put all my eggs

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: I also love having someone to chit chat with in

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Speaker 6: I do, I do?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a girl, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it? So okay, Guy Brandham.

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Speaker 1: We used to work together on Chelsea Lately and Chelsea

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Speaker 1: Lately Days. We worked for how I don't know how

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Speaker 1: many years together. Three years okay, it feels like more, yes,

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Speaker 1: but okay. So, and then we saw each other a

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Speaker 1: some set I think at the improv. Yeah, So it

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Speaker 1: was really nice to catch up. And I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I thought it would be great to have you on

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Speaker 1: the podcast so we could shoot some shit. Yes, like

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Speaker 1: old times and and fucking gossip.

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Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of yours.

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Speaker 2: So I was very that's very sweet.

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Speaker 7: That's very sweet, Like I have such warm feelings. It

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Speaker 7: really was like a family in all of the best

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Speaker 7: and worst ways. But the best parts were like getting

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Speaker 7: to gossip and really like getting to tear apart. You

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Speaker 7: know when Jamie Lene Spears got pregnant when we all watch.

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Speaker 8: How's That Going, by the way, well she apparently was

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Speaker 8: like a little bit complicit in the keeping Britney Spears,

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Speaker 8: like under the conservatorship, I think, but that, and then

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Speaker 8: when we watched the Lifetime hand Job Prostitute TV movie together,

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Speaker 8: like really one of the highlights of my life.

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Speaker 2: Remind remind me the Lifetime hand Job movie.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it was like one of the girls from Party

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Speaker 1: But by saying that Timothy Shallo may blew it, it's

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Speaker 7: But I think it's also interesting the way that we

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Speaker 1: I understand your campaign to win an Oscar. We all

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Speaker 2: This is it. This is like a level and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 7: Yes, I mean the thing is like he's still young, Like.

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Speaker 7: Lindo, he's been out there doing the work for like decades,

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Speaker 1: He's probably devastated that he didn't win, you know what

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Speaker 7: The other thing that was cool the race that award, yes,

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Speaker 1: Okay, did you see that Nicole Kidman came out publicly

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Speaker 7: Good for her, but also like, this is a good

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Speaker 7: I mean she is rakishly handsome.

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Speaker 2: I let's get my world updates from that.

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Speaker 1: But that's so anyway, Nicole Kidman obviously broke up with

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Speaker 4: Which totally he is a divorce That's what I wrote.

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Speaker 7: I like Simon Baker for her. I think having an

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Speaker 7: And it's like I get that because they're tall and strong,

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Speaker 3: And it's like they're not being country stars over there

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Speaker 2: It's too bad.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to my friend's fiftieth birthday because Nicole

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Speaker 2: I want to know your stance.

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Speaker 7: Okay, it's fascinating you have a situation where everyone's terrible,

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Speaker 2: Like Yes, which has been ruined.

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Speaker 7: We need this town to not collapse and they fucking

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a very funny comic.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I mean, like I don't know, Like I think

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Speaker 7: that she is maybe our greatest politician, and I think

442
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Speaker 7: that like she does a lot of presenting her her

443
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Speaker 7: friendships and relationships to us. But also I think she

444
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Speaker 7: goes away from controversy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well she doesn't have to. She doesn't have time

446
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Speaker 1: for that shit either, you know. I mean when you

447
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Speaker 1: spend so much time working as hard as like you know,

448
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Speaker 1: like she does on her image and like her like

449
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Speaker 1: what she's presenting, it's kind of like what you're saying,

450
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Speaker 1: and like she's so thoughtful planning things like three and

451
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Speaker 1: five years out. She's like, I didn't have time for

452
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Speaker 1: this lawsuit, Like this is not on my calendar and

453
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to participate in it.

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Speaker 3: But yet I feel like she's still been a really

455
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Speaker 3: good friend to Blake, Like those text messages that were yeah.

456
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Speaker 2: They were all very public, very nice. Yes, good friend texts.

457
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: But the thing, like the thing is with some of

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Speaker 7: these people who are like our industries, like Taylor Swift

460
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Speaker 7: is an industry, Like who are the women who were

461
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Speaker 7: in the Mean Girl Mom group? There was like, uh

462
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Speaker 7: was it?

463
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Speaker 1: Oh that was Hillary Duff yes and Moore yes?

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Speaker 7: And it is just like Mandy Moore, one of Hollywood's

465
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Speaker 7: great survivors. But like that, she still makes the time

466
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Speaker 7: to be Incidentally, cruel to people around her. I think

467
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Speaker 7: reflects a balanced life, you know. And I just don't

468
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Speaker 7: imagine that Taylor has the time for like messy girl talk,

469
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Speaker 7: for you know, ganging up on people the way that

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Speaker 7: she used to, Uh did she used to?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the whole you stole my dancers and the

472
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Speaker 3: Katie Perry thing and all of that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the fucking track that she wrote about Charlie

474
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Speaker 7: XCX on the most recent album I think is delicious

475
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Speaker 7: by the.

476
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Speaker 2: Way I do too. Yeah, that is actually a great time.

477
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Speaker 7: I mean, the thing is is like, but it's also

478
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Speaker 7: like it's pettiness that is going to in the long

479
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Speaker 7: term make her a great deal of money and like that,

480
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Speaker 7: Like that that woman is like put focusing her pettiness

481
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Speaker 7: towards her greater brand. I'm like, if only I could.

482
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Speaker 1: You know, Like, when people have complaints about Taylor Swift,

483
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Speaker 1: it's usually in the vein that she doesn't let out

484
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Speaker 1: of their artists breathe or have the success that she does.

485
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Speaker 2: How she re releases things.

486
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Speaker 1: And I don't quite understand all of this because I

487
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Speaker 1: don't really understand music. But how she like you know,

488
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Speaker 1: has sixteen or seventeen different album covers and then it's like, okay,

489
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Speaker 1: this is available for a limited release, right or somebody

490
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Speaker 1: will drop like a Billie Eilish will drop its song

491
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Speaker 1: and then she'll drop one right.

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Speaker 2: After, so that Billie Eilish doesn't stay at number one.

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Speaker 1: Those are things that I've heard. Is that out there

494
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Speaker 1: in the Zeitgeis that that happens well?

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Speaker 3: Definitely, the like publishing a ton of different covers, so

496
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Speaker 3: like the girls who love her have to go by

497
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Speaker 3: nine or you know, twenty five different covers.

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Speaker 7: It definitely as a thing a man has never been

499
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Speaker 7: criticized for trying to be killing you know, and it

500
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Speaker 7: is like I think that so much.

501
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Speaker 2: That always kind of comes back to that.

502
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Speaker 7: Yeah, like our resentment is somebody who's like doing it

503
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Speaker 7: too well, who is too in control. And there's a

504
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Speaker 7: way that like we demand this kind of like messiness

505
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Speaker 7: and vulnerability from women, like oh, there's a there's a

506
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Speaker 7: great line. There was this British art critic who said,

507
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Speaker 7: men act, women appear. The notion that like men get

508
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Speaker 7: to be agents, but women are always like Jackson, I

509
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Speaker 7: think is artists we so frequently It's like with Lena Dunham,

510
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Speaker 7: we couldn't understand that she was an artist who was

511
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Speaker 7: creating something and not just the mess that was Hannah Horvatz.

512
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Speaker 7: And I think that that is something that we have

513
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Speaker 7: a hard time understanding that, like, you are an artist,

514
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Speaker 7: not just a human being sharing the messiness of your life.

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Speaker 2: Fill me in on this Rebel Wilson story.

516
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Speaker 3: So what you were saying about how a project can

517
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Speaker 3: be ruined by all of this like behind the scenes stuff.

518
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Speaker 3: So Rebel Wilson got basically in a pissing match with

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Speaker 3: her producer of her new movie, which is called The

520
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Speaker 3: deb It's like an Australian movie.

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Speaker 4: It's a musical. It's supposed to be this like light,

522
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Speaker 4: frothy fun thing.

523
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Speaker 3: But they've been in a legal battle over a credit

524
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Speaker 3: that Rebel Wilson wanted on the movie and you know

525
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Speaker 3: she supposedly didn't earn it, and so they've been in

526
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Speaker 3: this legal battle for like two years.

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Speaker 4: And now like she's using okay allegedly.

528
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Speaker 2: Because it's a little blake Lively.

529
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Speaker 3: It is very much so the crisis pr firm that

530
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Speaker 3: supposedly she is using and her team are doing the

531
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Speaker 3: same sort of smear campaigns online and these like websites

532
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Speaker 3: saying that this producer who is a woman, was like

533
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Speaker 3: sexually harassing someone on the shoot and like asking her

534
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Speaker 3: to sleep with her. That person has gone on the

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Speaker 3: record and said that didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: That is not real.

537
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Speaker 3: But it's the same same PR firm that Justin Baldoni used.

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Speaker 3: So it's very lively Jessein Baldoni.

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Speaker 2: But from the other angle.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I mean the ways that our industry is getting

541
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Speaker 7: wrecked by some of these I think, particularly publicists being

542
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Speaker 7: too good at their jobs. I think you.

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Speaker 1: Opening up a crisis PR firm what so you can

544
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Speaker 1: just deal with fucking acrimony.

545
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Speaker 4: And hate and legate it and stir it up.

546
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Speaker 2: And fighting all the time.

547
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Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, how many crisis PR firms

548
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Speaker 1: are there?

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Speaker 7: It does lead to the best possible moment in entertainment,

550
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Speaker 7: which is when somebody's a publicist fires them, like there

551
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Speaker 7: is just sort of like there's no clearer sign that like, oh,

552
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Speaker 7: they're just impossible to work with. But it's like, you're

553
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Speaker 7: rebel Wilson, let your movie come out, like you don't

554
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Speaker 7: need something to be happening.

555
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Speaker 1: But also, we just saw this whole fucking thing for

556
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Speaker 1: the last two Yearslake Lively and justin BELLDONI so if

557
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Speaker 1: you learn anything, don't, yes, exactly, don't. Nobody wants this,

558
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Speaker 1: Like if this is true, you know, to actively go

559
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Speaker 1: after somebody to like ruin their reputation, even if that

560
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Speaker 1: person is a fucking idiot, you know what I mean,

561
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Speaker 1: even if that person sucks.

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Speaker 2: What is the point of doing that?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 3: And like we don't know it was Rebel specifically pushing

565
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Speaker 3: for this, but there was audio leaked of her team

566
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Speaker 3: discussing these tactics to use against this person.

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Speaker 5: Ooops.

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Speaker 7: I mean, like it's just rough and you really have

569
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Speaker 7: to question, like where are you putting your energy? You know,

570
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Speaker 7: like you're like you're Rebel Wilson, do like do something creative,

571
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Speaker 7: like don't waste your time just being in a fight.

572
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Speaker 4: She got married a Disneyland. There's nothing creative happening Disneyland.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, I wish they would shut that place down.

574
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Speaker 2: I know how many people love it, but honestly I do.

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Speaker 4: Love it, but I would not get married there.

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Speaker 7: I do love it. I do think anyone who purchases

577
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Speaker 7: like that much of a packaged wedding right without doing

578
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Speaker 7: it hilariously is you know? I question?

579
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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, what else is in the news.

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Speaker 4: Well, you were just talking about Wendy West.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, friend, So yeah, tell us about your friend. She

582
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Speaker 2: just published a book. What's it called.

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Speaker 7: It's called Adult Braces, and it's a really good book

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Speaker 7: and it's about her sort of like coming to like

585
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Speaker 7: a midlife existential crisis. Do you remember the show Shrill

586
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Speaker 7: on Hulu? It was based on her book and sort

587
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Speaker 7: of like the weirdness of having her life processed through

588
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Speaker 7: a TV show something you would know nothing about, and

589
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Speaker 7: then sort of like having like miscommunicated, no miscommunication, but

590
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Speaker 7: like bad communication with her husband, which she had agreed

591
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Speaker 7: to be like open but wanted to not know about

592
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Speaker 7: the stuff that he did there was open, and then

593
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Speaker 7: he got a girlfriend and she had like uncertainty and

594
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Speaker 7: a lot of like questioning of herself about that. So

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Speaker 7: she goes on a van trip down to the Florida

596
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Speaker 7: Keys and back to sort of like get her head straight.

597
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Speaker 7: And there's just been a lot of people and I

598
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Speaker 7: was there for her book launch, and a lot of

599
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Speaker 7: people have been expressing a lot of opinions about her

600
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Speaker 7: relationship without having read the book, and you know, it's

601
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Speaker 7: very frustrating for her.

602
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Speaker 1: And like what kind of opinions are they expressing that

603
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Speaker 1: are hurtful to her.

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Speaker 7: Like they were saying that, like that's not a good

605
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Speaker 7: way of going into polyamory. And they were just sort

606
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Speaker 7: of saying like, oh, this is sad for you. You

607
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 7: don't actually want this, And she's like, no, I love this,

608
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Speaker 7: I love Roy and my girlfriend, like this is a

609
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Speaker 7: better situation that is more wholesome and healthy for all

610
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Speaker 7: of us. That's the point of the book. And people

611
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Speaker 7: are like, you can't have that opinion.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Yes, I wish there were a way for people

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Speaker 1: to not care about the feedback they get when they

614
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Speaker 1: put out a piece of creative work.

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Speaker 7: It's really hard, though. And the thing is is like

616
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Speaker 7: you read the comments because you want the people who

617
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Speaker 7: say that you're great, but then you see the stuff

618
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Speaker 7: where people are critical. It is really hard. I wish

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Speaker 7: I could be one of those people. And also I

620
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Speaker 7: think all the people who say that they don't care

621
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Speaker 7: are lying.

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Speaker 1: No, but there's a level of caring about it. Like

623
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Speaker 1: I understand that you have to care. It's what you

624
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Speaker 1: put out. Like if I put a book out and

625
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Speaker 1: it didn't do well or if it you know, I

626
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Speaker 1: would care. Yeah, but I don't know that I would

627
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Speaker 1: get like, just like when you see ten comments in

628
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Speaker 1: a row telling you you're the greatest thing in the world,

629
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Speaker 1: that gets old pretty quickly too, Like it's nice, but

630
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Speaker 1: you're not going.

631
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Speaker 2: To bathe in that, Like that's not real. It's real.

632
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Speaker 1: It's your impact, which is really important, like you know,

633
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Speaker 1: the kind of I think. I always use the term

634
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Speaker 1: domino effect you have on people, you know, to leave

635
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Speaker 1: people like, you know, feeling good and like to actually

636
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Speaker 1: have an impact on them as important.

637
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Speaker 2: But just like you don't sit there and.

638
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Speaker 1: Read these glowing reviews about yourself, Like I'm not going

639
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: to sit there and read bad things about myself on

640
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Speaker 1: and on and on and on and like it's not necessary.

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Speaker 7: Two things. The first one is just I've never really

642
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 7: gotten to say it to you. But the number of

643
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 7: times that I've been in some situation and somebody reflected

644
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 7: back to me that's seeing me and Ross on your show,

645
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Speaker 7: like help them figure it out coming out out of

646
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 7: the closet or who they were always is so great.

647
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Speaker 7: But my question for you is one of the things

648
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Speaker 7: that's interesting about the book is Lindy talking about sort

649
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 7: of like the specter of her first book shrill and

650
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Speaker 7: the way that it made people like expect things out

651
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Speaker 7: of her as a fat person and as a feminist.

652
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Speaker 7: And I just wonder for you after, like, what's the

653
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Speaker 7: first book called horizontal horizontal life? Was it hard for you?

654
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Speaker 7: Was it weird for you? Sort of like the persona?

655
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Speaker 7: But I guess it's it was a reflection of your

656
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Speaker 7: stand up persona, which is like you know you were

657
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Speaker 7: used to handling that. But was there anything with any

658
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Speaker 7: of your books? Has there been anything weird about the

659
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Speaker 7: way it made people see you?

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Speaker 9: No?

661
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Speaker 1: I mean sometimes people would be disappointed, Like when I

662
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: got like when I got very deep with like my book,

663
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: what was it called Life Will Be the Death of Me?

664
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: I got really deep about my brother and a lot

665
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: of people. And when I did a tour, I didn't

666
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: do a stand up tour. I did like a talking

667
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: about the book tour, And I think I was just

668
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: testing the water to see if I wanted to get

669
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: back at a stand up.

670
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: Because I had taken such a long break.

671
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: But people were like definitely like disappointed that that wasn't

672
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: like the old Chelsea, like the funny, funny like ribolts

673
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: and like all that stuff.

674
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: Which is so funny that you say that, because we

675
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: still get emails all the time that were like that

676
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: book did so much for me, That book changed my life, Like,

677
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: thank you so much for sharing that. So it's like

678
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: it is totally different strokes for different folks.

679
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and and so and yeah, and as do I

680
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: and I love that.

681
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: I love that feedback.

682
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: But I also like even when I put that out

683
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: and people and I got some of that feedback like wait,

684
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: this isn't the Chelsea we know in love and I'm like, yeah,

685
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: it's moving, like I'm moving.

686
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 7: Well, yeah. The thing is you have to evolve as

687
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 7: an artist. And we've all seen people who got kind

688
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 7: of trapped by just doing the thing that worked over

689
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 7: and over and over again. And I think if you

690
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 7: want to be somebody who is alive and has something

691
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 7: to say, you have to evolve what you're doing.

692
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: And you have to be representative and real about what

693
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: you're going through as an artist. Not every artist has

694
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: to do this, like an actor doesn't necessarily have to

695
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: share all of that, but as a comedian or as

696
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: somebody who is playing myself, yeah I'm myself, you know

697
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: what I mean, it's it's insincere and disingenuous for me

698
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: to act one way and be going through it in

699
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: another way, like I'm not faking it. I am actually

700
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: on whatever you're lack of a better word, yeah, I'm getting

701
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: an upgrade a and for lack of a better word, journey,

702
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: Like you've.

703
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 7: Been pretty transparent with social media, pretty transparent with comedy always,

704
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 7: and I think that makes it easier to just sort

705
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 7: of like keep these things flowing along. And I think

706
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 7: for some people who are pretty famous understanding what level

707
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 7: of transparency you know, understanding I think also when you

708
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 7: have kids and it's like, you know, because like that

709
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 7: weird thing of like this is my life, but also

710
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 7: like I don't want people kidnapping them.

711
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, the kids, I get. I don't

712
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: have to deal with that problem of another great decision

713
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: by me.

714
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 7: But there's a really good passage in the end of

715
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 7: Lindy's book that is basically like a book isn't the truth.

716
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 7: A book is sort of like your representation of where

717
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 7: you are, and also just sort of like the idea

718
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 7: of what I'm saying right now may not be true

719
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 7: of me always, but I'm not going to sacrifice the

720
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 7: happiness that I have now in service of being right

721
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 7: three years from now.

722
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: Yes.

723
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: Right also, And it's important to know that if I

724
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: said something in that moment, I meant it, you know

725
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like somebody was like, oh, I thought

726
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: you hate flowers. I'm like, well I did when they

727
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: were when I did, I did hate flowers at a

728
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: certain point in my life. I thought that was kind

729
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: of just like not pedantic, but just like ooh, I

730
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: don't need flowers.

731
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 7: I love cut flowers. I love getting flowers.

732
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: Roses. I don't want it roses. I want flowers. You

733
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

734
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: Flowers. I'm interested in that. How's your dating life, by

735
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: the way.

736
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 7: I mean, it's decentralized as always. I was in New

737
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 7: York and I saw a guy who I see in

738
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 7: New York, And before that, I went to Quebec in February.

739
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 7: Never a great.

740
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: Choice must have been for some dick.

741
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 7: Yes, so that that kind of thing. Do you like that? Yes?

742
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 7: Like the number of people out there like I'm a

743
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 7: very specific person. I used to have joke about this.

744
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 7: I am the sexual equivalence of a left handed oyster

745
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 7: shucking glove. I'm not for everyone, but those who need

746
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 7: it will appreciate it, and so I did have a

747
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 7: long term relationship twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen. I've been

748
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 7: doing a solo show where I talk about the complexities

749
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 7: of it because I'd never really been in a relationship before.

750
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 7: But like, that was interesting. I think meeting somebody who

751
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 7: was a right person for me made me much clearer

752
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 7: about who isn't a right person for me? If that

753
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 7: makes sense.

754
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: Totally makes sense.

755
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: And how did how was it being in a relationship

756
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: for three years after not having had a relationship.

757
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 7: It was weird and it was scary, and I didn't

758
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 7: really know how to deal with it, and I didn't

759
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 7: always make the best of choices.

760
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: Neither did he.

761
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 7: But I learned a lot from it. And I think

762
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 7: just if he, like he was smart in the right

763
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 7: ways and kind in the right ways in ways that

764
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 7: like helped me grow up and it was good. He's

765
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 7: still a very good friend of hers.

766
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: Oh that's good.

767
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: Yes, And do you think you want another relationship? I

768
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: know because I kind of like what you're talking about,

769
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And that's my vibe is

770
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: like bounce around lots of different people.

771
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not in that situation. Right now.

772
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 7: But I like that well, And I think for me

773
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 7: as somebody who like started out in a very gay way,

774
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 7: just sort of like hooking up and stuff, understanding what

775
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 7: emotions are appropriate and like really like letting myself treasure

776
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 7: someone and enjoy someone is like I think, learning many

777
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 7: different definitions of the word love is really really useful

778
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 7: and good for me. But also like my job and

779
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 7: my creative process and the things that I do go

780
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 7: in so many directions that like there is something nice

781
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 7: about just like having a nice time with someone and

782
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 7: going off and doing my own thing.

783
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: Right, Because I was just saying to Catherine in our

784
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: last episode, I was saying, like I when I work,

785
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: I want to be alone. I don't want anyone in

786
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: my house. And when I come back and I'm in

787
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: LA or wherever I am when i'm working, I need

788
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: to be on my own thing because.

789
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: I don't like the check in texts. I'm guessing, yeah,

790
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 4: check in.

791
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: We don't have to talk to your phone every day.

792
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean communicate, but you know, I mean sometimes on

793
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 1: the phone fine if you're in the mood, but like,

794
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: there's no I don't like to be restrictive or be

795
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: feel tethered.

796
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: I need my space.

797
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, in reference to Lindy's book, a line

798
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 7: of mind that I have been repeating a lot is,

799
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 7: to me, sexual fidelity is the least interesting kind of fidelity, Like,

800
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 7: there are so many other things that I want to

801
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 7: know that I'm the first person that you tell about

802
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 7: a very good restaurant that you read too, Like I

803
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 7: don't care for you're fucking but like you know those

804
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 7: things that like really do matter that somebody share those

805
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 7: things with you, Like it is other things that matter

806
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 7: to me.

807
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I like that. Are we going to take callers?

808
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: Oh, we sure are, And actually I have some questions

809
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: that align very much with what.

810
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 4: We've been talking about.

811
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to take a break and we're going

812
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: to be right back with Guy Brenham that we're back.

813
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 3: Well, our one drink question that we'll start off with is,

814
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: Dear Chelsea, my ex and I broke up a year

815
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: ag but we've maintained a friendship. Shortly after the breakup,

816
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 3: I found out he was hanging out with a certain guy,

817
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 3: the one I was told not to worry about. I

818
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 3: did some digging and found a tweet from that guy

819
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: posted while we had been together that said something like,

820
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: why do I always fall for guys two hundred miles away?

821
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: My ex is an NYC. That guy lives in DC.

822
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: We were in an open relationship, so physical stuff wasn't

823
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: the issue, but I realized he was probably emotionally cheating

824
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: on me while we were still together. Now, even as

825
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: just friends, every interaction brings that betrayal back up. I've

826
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 3: thought about having a conversation with him about it, but

827
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: I'm worried it might be too much. Do you think

828
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 3: talking about it would bring clarity or just reopen old wounds?

829
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 7: Gabe, I think you kind of need to talk to

830
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 7: him about it, like in most situations, Like you know,

831
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 7: I don't think you should reopen old wounds all the time.

832
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 7: I don't think you need to get into everything. But

833
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 7: it's like, if you want to be friends with this guy,

834
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 7: you're this is going to fester and you're going to

835
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 7: get annoyed and it's going to turn into something bad

836
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 7: or inappropriate. And I think, like we're mature, sophisticated gay

837
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 7: guys who able to have an open relationship, and I

838
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 7: think being able to have a lunch where it's like, well,

839
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 7: tell me what was going on just so I can know,

840
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 7: will let you decide how much you want to be

841
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 7: friends with these guys and like hopefully open you up

842
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 7: so that you can like and appreciate them on their

843
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 7: own terms and maybe have a three way eventually love.

844
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: Well, that's a nice spin. But the other conversely, like,

845
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: what are the chances this guy's going to be honest

846
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: about what he was doing when they were in a relationship,

847
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: knowing that's just going to stir up shit, you know

848
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like you're gonna ask my ex boyfriend

849
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: asked me if I was cheating on him, and I

850
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: was like, what's the advantage of being you know what

851
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd be like, that's just going to hurt him.

852
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep that to myself.

853
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: And you're probably gonna get lied to anyway, I mean,

854
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent.

855
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: I don't know these people well, I.

856
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 7: Mean, and that is the dangerous possibility is if this

857
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 7: person lies to you, then you like have to resent them,

858
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 7: you know, But.

859
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: Also you may never know that they're lying, Like you

860
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: may not really know, maybe they were just flirting or

861
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: who knows. My take on all of this shit, as

862
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: I've gotten older has changed and evolved, which is it

863
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: doesn't fucking matter, not with.

864
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: The person anymore. Whatever happened while you were with them

865
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 2: doesn't fucking matter. You know what I mean.

866
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: You were dating, you were in an open relationship, all

867
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: the things are there. Now you're gonna be upset that

868
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: he was an emotional cheater instead of a physical cheater.

869
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: Like the relationship's over, move on.

870
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 7: Well, and there's also something that we said for like

871
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 7: give it some space, give it some space, go. And

872
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 7: I think it's really hard after the end of a

873
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 7: relationship to like to you want to be focused on that,

874
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 7: but like give it some space and then go back

875
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 7: and then you can be friends on whatever terms those

876
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 7: are two years from now.

877
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: Yes, that's also good idea to give it to me.

878
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: Did he say he wants to remain friends with him?

879
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the ad.

880
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: But I think that we always want to like control

881
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: the situation, and the situation's over. You didn't control it,

882
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: it's over, And like the idea of controlling the outcome

883
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: of something is very like it's a false motivation. You're

884
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: never going to be able to control. Plus it already

885
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: fucking happened. So I would say, get you know all.

886
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: Right, you have two pieces of advice.

887
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: You know what you go ye, let us know what

888
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: you go with and how that goes? All right?

889
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: Well, our first color today, Leah, She says, Dear Chelsea,

890
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: I'm an actress and comedian in LA and I would

891
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 3: love your advice on my current situation. After fifteen years

892
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: of building an online audience of forty K followers, my

893
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 3: Instagram at leahk an hour was disabled after I made

894
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: an anti Trump joke that went viral and a massive

895
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: Trumpers reported it. I now have to start a new

896
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: account at leak an hour XO from zero. I'm heartbroken

897
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: and angry. So long freedom of speech. I guess As

898
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 3: an up and coming actress and comedian, my social media

899
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: is obviously vital for promoting shows and booking gigs. As

900
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: you know, I feel like everything I've built has crashed

901
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: and burned at my feet and my.

902
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 4: Career is over. What do I do?

903
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: Have you ever experienced a major loss, professional or personal

904
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: that ended up being a blessing. I'd really appreciate your

905
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 3: insight and encouragement.

906
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: Leah.

907
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't believe that they could do that. Hi, Leah,

908
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: Look we have Guy Brandham here today. He's another comedian.

909
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 2: Hi guy, Hi Chelsea, Hi, how are you.

910
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 6: I'm okay, I'm happy to be here.

911
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 5: I wish it was in different circumstances, but I'm really

912
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 5: looking forward to your advice.

913
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: Well, first of.

914
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: All, everything that every disaster that happens or kind of like,

915
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how you want of how you're framing this,

916
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: but it's definitely I don't understand how they are able

917
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: to take.

918
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: Accounts down like that. What do they? I don't understand

919
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: how that works.

920
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't either. It's pretty crazy.

921
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 5: No, but apparently this happens to a lot of people

922
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 5: for all kinds of different reasons and sometimes no reason

923
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 5: at all.

924
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 6: And I'm actually speculating they never.

925
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 2: Told me what guideline, so they just cancel your ee.

926
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just woke up one day and my account

927
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 5: was gone. They didn't specify what guideline I broke or

928
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 5: what post it was. But I'm speculating because I had

929
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 5: a very viral anti Trump post, so I'm like, maybe

930
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 5: that was it, and I think a lot of people

931
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 5: reported it and then it just was down and I

932
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 5: feel I'm like, yeah, I'm mad at myself.

933
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 6: I feel like I ruined everything. Chelsea.

934
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 5: I'm actually on a show with you tomorrow, so I'm

935
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 5: very excited to meet you in what show at the

936
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 5: Ice House?

937
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'll see you at the ice House. That's great,

938
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: I am performing there. I forgot I'm doing.

939
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Great.

940
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: But everything that doesn't work out, there's always some blessing.

941
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: You may not find out about it in the next

942
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: week or two weeks or six months, but you'll find

943
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: out about it at some reason.

944
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: You'll have had.

945
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: Some stalker that was going to try and come over

946
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: to your house and stalk you or kill you, or

947
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: something terrible that you avoided or averted by not having.

948
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: Your social media account. So let's just assume that's true.

949
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: Okay, not the worst case scenario true, but just some

950
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: scenario within that. Let's assume that something like that is true,

951
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: and this was a blessing in disguise. Rebuilding something is

952
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: not nearly as difficult as you think it is. It

953
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: feels like that in the moment, forty thousand followers, I

954
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: know is a lot of people, But you can rebuild

955
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: that in a second.

956
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: You don't need like. The thing that I'm more concerned

957
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: about is.

958
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: Like you're freedom of speech and to be able to

959
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: talk about this, like you know, you may had something

960
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: go viral where you were anti Trump. You shouldn't stop

961
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: talking about how much of an asshole Trump is. So

962
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about now than muzzling you. So where

963
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: do you stand on that front?

964
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is. I do feel scared now to speak up.

965
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 5: And that's why I wanted to ask you because you're

966
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 5: very vocal about politics and I admire you both for that.

967
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 5: But yeah, and now I'm scared.

968
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: Well, then that worked, do you know what I mean?

969
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: Like it worked. That's what they wanted you to to be.

970
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: They want you to be scared.

971
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: You are scared, and you're probably going to edit your

972
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: behavior in the future. So first and foremost, I would

973
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: say not to do that. I think there's probably certain

974
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: people that they target right that they know that they

975
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: could get away with it because you have smaller followings

976
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: or I mean even the forty thousand peoples a lot

977
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: of people. But I really don't think it's like it's

978
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: not as big of a mountain to climb as you

979
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: think it is. You know, you can like increase your

980
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: social media presence in weeks, you know what I mean?

981
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: Like it's going to happen. You just have to start again.

982
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: And actually maybe it shifted and not necessarily away from

983
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: being anti Trump. Wait until you've amassed more followers than

984
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: forty thousand before you start talking out against him, maybe

985
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: because they're less likely to erase that. But I think

986
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: you should look at it as an opportunit unity, like

987
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: now you have an opportunity to create something brand new,

988
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: instead of looking at it as a loss. When we

989
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: look at everything that we don't get as a loss,

990
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: it kind of alters your state of mind and the

991
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: framework within which you look at focus in something.

992
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: And I think really successful people have.

993
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: An ability to like, oh, you almost not that you're

994
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: welcoming this, because it's not something that you would welcome.

995
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: But it's almost like, oh, what a fun challenge.

996
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: I get to rebuild my forty thousand people, and you

997
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: guess what you're gonna double that.

998
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: You're going to be way more successful.

999
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: But just figure out how you want to change that

1000
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: in the right way, you know what I mean, Make

1001
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: some slight alteration, not towards being political, but make an

1002
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: alteration about like how you see your future as a performer, right,

1003
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: Like if you're talented then there's not much that's going

1004
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: to get in your way.

1005
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 3: And I also think that like talking about your story,

1006
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 3: like I got banned from Instagram for saying something about Trump,

1007
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 3: Like talking about that on TikTok, I think would go viral.

1008
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, tell your story, Yeah you can.

1009
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: I mean that could be your opening video, Like Okay,

1010
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: I was banned, so I'm rebuilding my social media and

1011
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: then talk about other things so it's not totally centered

1012
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: on around Trump, you know, but that story is worthwhile

1013
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: because I'm sure there's millions of other people that are

1014
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: experiencing the same stuff. Yeah, you know, and like maybe

1015
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: there's something you good you can do together to make

1016
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: sure that they're not allowed to do that to people.

1017
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: You can't just take someone's count down. I don't understand

1018
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: how that happens. So but I really just don't want

1019
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: you to focus on the loss and focus on like

1020
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: the actual creative process of starting anew You know, it's

1021
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: not the end of the world.

1022
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: I promise you, it's not the end of the world.

1023
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: You can act like you've never been on social media

1024
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: before and be like how do I how do I

1025
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: work this thing? You could have a whole angle about it, guy,

1026
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: what do you think.

1027
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 7: I think comedians can lose too much energy when you

1028
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 7: have bumps and bad things happen. I think that comedians

1029
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 7: have so much opportunity with social media to control and

1030
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 7: be able to like communicate with people directly, but also

1031
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 7: we forget how much it is being filtered through these

1032
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 7: corporations that like really have infinite power to decide. You know,

1033
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 7: it's weird when you realize all of the speech restrictions

1034
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 7: that we accept on TikTok. You know that like we

1035
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 7: just sort of take them, and so you have to

1036
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 7: take those two things hand in hand. But I think

1037
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 7: what Chelsea is saying is is right. It will be

1038
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 7: a whole lot easier to get another forty thousand back.

1039
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 7: And I think one of the important things is, like,

1040
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 7: as comedians, the most important thing that we have is

1041
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 7: inside of you, skills that you have built, what you

1042
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 7: have learned on this path to forty thousands. They can't

1043
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 7: take that away from you.

1044
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 6: Thank you so much.

1045
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 5: I really it's very helpful to hear all of that

1046
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 5: from both of you, So thank you.

1047
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So just keep on trucking, okay, because you know

1048
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: you're going to have to like survive much more than

1049
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: this in the world of entertainment and in the world

1050
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: of rejection or what you perceive to be failures.

1051
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: But I really think the.

1052
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: True sign of like a real powerful person is never

1053
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: to look at failure as failure. It's like, great, I'm

1054
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: glad I got that out of the way. Now on

1055
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: one step closer to my next success.

1056
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: Thank you all right, Lea, will you keep us posted

1057
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 4: on what happens.

1058
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: And I'll see you at the ice house.

1059
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 6: I'll see you tomorrow.

1060
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow.

1061
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 3: Okay, thankfully, Bye bye bye. So our next question comes

1062
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: from Stephen. Stephen says Chelsea, I love you, love the pod.

1063
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: You're the best. Would love some advice. I'm a forty eight.

1064
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: Year old gay dude who's never been in a relationship.

1065
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: I grew up in New England and being out in

1066
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 3: the nineties wasn't a thing yet. It was too unsafe

1067
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 3: to date the boys, and I had no interest in

1068
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: dating the girls in college. It just never seemed to happen.

1069
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 3: I'm the happy, fat friend that everyone wants to be

1070
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: friends with but not date. I look at someone like

1071
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: Ross Matthews, who is dating Salvador for years when he

1072
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: was heavier. He's now in a loving marriage with Wellington.

1073
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: I see fat guys out there all the time who

1074
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: have boyfriends. How am I so unlucky that it doesn't

1075
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: happen to me? Everyone always says it will happen when

1076
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: you least expect it. Well, I've been waiting for over

1077
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: twenty five years now and it hasn't happened.

1078
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: Yet because you're expecting it.

1079
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 3: I see people on my six hundred pound life and

1080
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: they're all in relationships, and I get so mad because

1081
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 3: they're fat and they found someone. So if wade is

1082
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: not an issue for them to find someone, what's so

1083
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: wrong with me that I can't I firmly believe that

1084
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: I won't find a man to day until i'm thin,

1085
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: but that doesn't seem to be true for others. As

1086
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: I'm knocking on the door of fifty, I just want

1087
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: it to happen at least once in my life. I

1088
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 3: want to know what it's like to be loved by

1089
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 3: another person, not just my family and amazing friends. Never

1090
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: having experienced romance before just drives me into a depth

1091
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 3: of pain that is real and can last for days.

1092
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: Feeling like damaged goods that no one wants.

1093
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: There are chubby chasers out there who find me attractive,

1094
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: but being fond attractive for the one thing that you

1095
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: hate about yourself as a total mind fuck? How do

1096
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: I break the fucking cycle and put myself out there more?

1097
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Speaker 1: Stephen, how do you feel about chubby chasers? I feel

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00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: like is that a bad thing? I mean like it

1099
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: can feel weird to be a fetish. It can feel

1100
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: strange when that's the thing that somebody is primarily engaging with.

1101
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 6: You know.

1102
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 7: Also it can be hot if it's the right person,

1103
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 7: But it is that thing of does this person like

1104
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 7: me or are? And also sometimes there is like a

1105
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 7: power dynamic to it that is like creepy and not

1106
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 7: the most fun of being like I'm a regular gang

1107
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 7: eye and you're a sad, fat guy, but I will

1108
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 7: still be nice to you. And I was like, nobody

1109
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 7: needs that. I understand far too well where Stephen is

1110
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 7: and where he's coming from, and I think part of

1111
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 7: it is just remembering how far we've come in our lifetimes.

1112
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 7: That like, when guys like him and I were in

1113
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 7: high school, there was no expectation that any of these

1114
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 7: things would be possible, and you weren't treating them as

1115
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 7: a reality, and I think, you know, and the guys

1116
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 7: that were dating have a different understanding of what relationships

1117
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 7: are and what they're looking for, and so I think

1118
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 7: accepting that is really important, but also putting yourself in

1119
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 7: the spaces where there are more people who will like you.

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00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 7: Going to bare Week at Provincetown if you live in

1121
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 7: New England, you know, it's like, go there, and there

1122
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 7: are way I think that immersion is a good thing.

1123
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 7: Some of these things that may feel uncomfortable or weird,

1124
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 7: like a Chevy chaser or like bear activities can feel weird,

1125
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 7: but then once you're there, like you just you get

1126
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 7: in the water and you realize it's.

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00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 2: Fine, yeah, and you can and then you're among more

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00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: of your people.

1129
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Speaker 1: And also there's like all these you know, this is

1130
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: true for single people and whatever your sexual preference is

1131
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: or identity is, but like you can go online and

1132
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: look for gay activities in your city and look for

1133
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: people who are also looking for gay activities in your

1134
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: city without it being you know.

1135
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 7: But I think there's also a way that the way

1136
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 7: we have talked to fat people about fatness for such

1137
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 7: a long time is there will be a future time

1138
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 7: when you get to lead your life and be happy,

1139
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 7: and like, yes, releasing that and just sort of saying,

1140
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 7: like what needs to happen needs to happen with this

1141
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 7: me right here. And like I also think just doing

1142
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 7: things to be embodied. Like in Lindy's books, she talks

1143
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 7: about getting a tattoo and accepting that like this, like

1144
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 7: I have ownership over my body, and I think like

1145
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 7: letting yourself own and enjoy your own body is a

1146
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 7: great way to like start accepting it. But also, and

1147
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 7: I should be lecturing two women about this, but like

1148
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 7: there's also a way that like, we live in a

1149
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 7: society that has so many opinions about your body that

1150
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 7: being able to divorce yourself from what society tells you

1151
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 7: is kind of impossible.

1152
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do like what you say about you know, Lindy.

1153
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: I think it's also helpful Stephen to start observing media

1154
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 3: from like fat activists and storytellers and creatives, you know,

1155
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 3: listen to the Maintenance Phase podcast and like put yourself

1156
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 3: in spaces where like your body is being talked about

1157
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 3: in a positive way and it can really help undo

1158
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: some of the the trauma error.

1159
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: But I do agree with you. I do think it's like,

1160
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I can relate to that so much. When

1161
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: I was a kid and like, you know, dealing with

1162
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: my weight or whatever. I was never fat, but I

1163
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: thought I was, you know, like body dysmorphia, and I

1164
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: was always like, oh, when I'm thin, when I'm thin,

1165
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: when i'm thin, that's when things.

1166
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: Will start to really kick off, you know what I mean.

1167
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: So I can relate to the idea that like, one

1168
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: day in the future you're gonna do but it is

1169
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: I think it is really like when you don't accept yourself,

1170
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: it's hard to get another person to accept you, Like

1171
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: you have to start with self love. And as corny

1172
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: as that may sound, seems to be the truth for

1173
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: so many people.

1174
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Speaker 7: Well and also except to acknowledge the fact that, like

1175
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 7: other people do have messed up heads about these things.

1176
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 7: And it's not about your failure. It's about a world

1177
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 7: that isn't great, and I think going into it with

1178
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 7: like understanding that that's part of the lay of the

1179
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 7: land is good. We can't fix it all in our

1180
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 7: own heads, you know.

1181
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, Steven, put yourself out there and check

1182
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 3: in with us, okay, and look.

1183
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: Up for some gay activities in the area that you live, Like,

1184
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: what are gay guys doing besides hunting each other on grinder?

1185
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 5: Like?

1186
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: Actually, like stuff that you can do outside stuff or

1187
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: stuff that you can like, you know, events that.

1188
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: You can go to, ballroom dancing.

1189
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, whatever you're interested in, like hiking or Look.

1190
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 7: Ten years ago, the gay dodgeball really was the meat

1191
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 7: Marco West Hollywood. Now it's all about pickleball. It's all

1192
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 7: about pickleball.

1193
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: All right. I saw this.

1194
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: I saw this Instagram post the other night, going how

1195
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: much longer are we going to let white people dominate pickleball?

1196
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: Get in there and fucking show them how it's done.

1197
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 7: Somebody's doing the Winter Olympics. I forget who was like,

1198
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 7: once black people enter speed skate age, it's over free.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, our last caller today is Amber, She says

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00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: high friends. So, I'm in my early thirties and I'm

1201
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: ready to take the next step in my relationship with

1202
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: my beautiful girlfriend. I'm finally at a point in my

1203
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 3: life where I think it would be good to take

1204
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: the next steps and propose within the next year or two.

1205
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: I'm afraid because her family, specifically her parents, are not

1206
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: supportive and She's a super family oriented person. She's someone

1207
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: that would ask me if I got her parents' approval

1208
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 3: before asking her. I feel so I'm at a crossroads here.

1209
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: I'm not traditional by any means, and she definitely is traditional.

1210
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 3: Any advice for how to move forward that way?

1211
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 2: With love? Amber?

1212
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 3: Hi?

1213
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 6: Amber?

1214
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: Our special guest is Guy Brandham today. Hello, Hi, Well,

1215
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: so you have a relationship and a woman that you

1216
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 1: love and that you want to propose to. That's exciting,

1217
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: and have you discussed getting married with her?

1218
00:51:59,200 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 3: Yes?

1219
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: And she's very excited about it.

1220
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: Okay, So do you think that she's expecting you to

1221
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: go to her parents and ask for a permission?

1222
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 9: I think that would be her idea.

1223
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 7: How long have you guys been together?

1224
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: Almost three years?

1225
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 7: Okay, I don't know.

1226
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: I think in all realms, asking the parents like permission

1227
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 3: or approval feels so dated.

1228
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: I agree.

1229
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: I feel like that is just it's just not the

1230
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: way the world should be working. Like if they're not

1231
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: supportive of the relationship at best, you can get like

1232
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: a tepid okay, and that's just like almost put sustain

1233
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: on the like the whole process of proposing.

1234
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 4: Now ever, what is your relationship like with her parents.

1235
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 9: Have you met them, I've met them. They're cordial to me,

1236
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 9: they let me in their house, but it's not they

1237
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 9: definitely don't accept us.

1238
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 3: Like it's not warm and invite and like they should

1239
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 3: be with their daughter's partner.

1240
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 9: No, I think they're in denial as well.

1241
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 7: So that happens with parents. One of the things I'm

1242
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 7: obsessed with is that we are the first generation of

1243
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 7: queer people who get to have real legal marriages, and

1244
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 7: that we get to build our own traditions along the way,

1245
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 7: and so much of the time we can feel like

1246
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 7: bound or constrained by the old school ways. And so

1247
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 7: I would say, if you don't feel comfortable going and

1248
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 7: asking her parents' permission, go to her best friend, go

1249
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 7: to her sister, go to someone else who is like

1250
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 7: a person who respects her and your relationship. So when

1251
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 7: she does say did you ask my parents' permission, you

1252
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 7: can be like, I didn't know how that will go.

1253
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 7: So that's why I talked to Brian. You know, I

1254
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 7: like that.

1255
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 2: I think that's great.

1256
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 9: I think I can go the sister out.

1257
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 2: That would be good.

1258
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great idea. Guy, that's really really good.

1259
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: You're right, you get to that's kind of I'm glad

1260
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: you said that that this is the first generation of

1261
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: people who get to get married as gay people, and

1262
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: you should set some new traditions because that is antiquated

1263
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: asking a parent for permission. It's like, I wouldn't give

1264
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: a shit what my parents said anyway.

1265
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 7: Like I have been to a gay wedding where like

1266
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 7: parents sat there annoyed the entire time or just weirded

1267
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 7: out by it. But I still think it's important. I

1268
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 7: think one of the things that a wedding is about

1269
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 7: is showing your parents that you're a real adult who

1270
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 7: gets to make real decisions on your own. So, you know,

1271
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 7: I think invite them and let them be whatever kind

1272
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 7: of pills they want to be, but also maybe don't

1273
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 7: put them in the position of being able to gate

1274
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 7: keep this relationship.

1275
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder what you also think the two of

1276
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 3: you about. After you've proposed and it's a yes, and

1277
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 3: everyone's excited, writing them a letter telling them how much

1278
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 3: you love their daughter, You're going to take care of her,

1279
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: You're so excited for this new step in your life.

1280
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 3: How do you feel about that and engaging them in

1281
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 3: that way? But it's sort of like you're giving it

1282
00:54:58,880 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: to them and they can absorb.

1283
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like, fuck you if parents

1284
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: are like that, do you know what I mean? Like,

1285
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: it's just not helpful. You're supposed to love your child

1286
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: no matter what. How can you judge them based on

1287
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: who they're attracted to.

1288
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 7: But I also think that there's the way that like,

1289
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 7: when you have somebody, like for so many queer people,

1290
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 7: being able to hold these things in the same space

1291
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 7: is really really hard. And when you have somebody who

1292
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 7: is really close to their family but has never been

1293
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 7: sort of like aggressive about saying like you need to

1294
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 7: create this space for me, it can be really hard.

1295
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 7: And you don't want that to be something that impairs

1296
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 7: your marriage, where your partner has to feel like she

1297
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 7: is to give something up to be in this relationship.

1298
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 7: And so I do think like sending a letter and

1299
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 7: keeping a door open isn't a terrible idea. But you know,

1300
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 7: there is also a deep part of me that understands

1301
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 7: and respects Chelsea's. If you don't like this, go fuck

1302
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 7: yourself perspective.

1303
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: It is nice to send a letter and say like

1304
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: it within that letter to be like hey, listen, letting

1305
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: them know what's happening, I ask, And also and just

1306
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: saying I didn't come to you in a traditional way

1307
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: because this isn't a traditional relationship and it's been you know,

1308
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: clear that you guys.

1309
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: You know, I think you should maybe.

1310
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: Like not like call them out, but like I didn't

1311
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: feel comfortable coming to you, you know, Like.

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Speaker 2: I hope that can change in the future.

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Speaker 1: I hope we can create a relationship or a foster

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Speaker 1: as some sort of relationship, Like if you wanted to

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Speaker 1: say that, I can understand wanting to say that. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's fucking necessary, but I can understand if

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Speaker 1: you want to really respect her relationship with her family.

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Speaker 1: But I think asking the sister is a real great

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Speaker 1: Like I think that's just a great suggestion.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I like, I like that suggestion. I don't think

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Speaker 9: either of our parents would attend, so I think the

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Speaker 9: letter would, if anything, would be just I don't know,

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Speaker 9: I don't know what that would look like. But I

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Speaker 9: think I want to respect that she is so close

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Speaker 9: to her family. But yeah, at the same time, I'm

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Speaker 9: not looking being for their approval of family erect Yeah,

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Speaker 9: for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you cover all your bases with asking

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Speaker 2: her sister.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's true.

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Speaker 3: All right, Amber, will you send us pictures of the

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Speaker 3: engagement when it happens.

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Speaker 2: I will, all right. Congratulations, Yeah, it's really exciting. That's Amber.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, and thank you so much again.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I just want to remind you of the call that

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Speaker 1: we got like a couple of weeks ago, when they

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00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: were like, we have a guy at work that clears

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Speaker 1: his throat incessantly. I am that man, now, I mean

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Speaker 1: I've always been that man. All I do is go

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Speaker 1: like this, and I haven't even smoked weed.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 1: I smoked smoking with Yaminika on Saturday, but what's today Tuesday?

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Speaker 7: I like, I was doing a bunch of colleges and

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00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 7: so I was listening obsessively to podcasts of college classes

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00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 7: and there was this man, like an amazing Greek historian

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00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,959
Speaker 7: and it was the best class and he literally could

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Speaker 7: not go more than like he was like clearing his

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Speaker 7: throat every third syllable, and it was so annoyed. It's

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00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 7: so hard, I know, I know, I.

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00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: Know, we literally got to call him to like someone

1353
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: in our cubicle, and like my cubicle next to me

1354
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: just sits there and goes, eh, She's like, we're so

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Speaker 1: fucking annoyed.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you need to confront him. He has acid reflex.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, guy, it was a pleasure having you here.

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Speaker 7: It's good to be because it was so lovely to

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Speaker 7: get to meet your cap and it's always a delight

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Speaker 7: to get to see you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Me likewise, guy likewise. Cheers, cheers everybody.

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Speaker 2: Goodbye.

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Speaker 1: Okay, guys, I am officially on my High and Mighty tour.

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Speaker 1: March twentieth is Denver, Colorado. March twenty seventh, Portland, Maine.

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Speaker 1: March twenty eighth, Providence, Rhode Island. March twenty ninth, Springfield, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 1: April tenth is Chicago. I'll be at the Chicago Theater

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Speaker 1: in April eleventh. Indianapolis, Indiana. April twelfth Louisville, can April

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Speaker 1: sixteenth is Albuquerque, New Mexico. April seventeenth is Mesa, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: April twenty third is Kansas City, Missouri. April twenty fourth

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Speaker 1: is Saint Louis, Missouri. April twenty fifth is Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: April thirtieth Nashville, Tennessee. May first is Charlotte, North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: May second is Durham, North Carolina. May sixth I'm doing

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Speaker 1: Netflix as a Joke Festival.

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Speaker 2: I will be in Los.

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Speaker 1: Angeles May fifteenth, Saratoga, California, May sixteenth, Monterey, California. May seventeenth, Modesto, California,

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Speaker 1: and then June.

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Speaker 2: Fourth Portchester, New York.

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Speaker 1: June fifth is Boston, mass And June twelfth is Portland, Oregon.

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00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 2: And then Seattle is June thirteenth.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing a second show at the Paramount Theater in

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Speaker 1: Denver on Saturday, December fifth, So suck on that.

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Speaker 3: podcast at gmail dot com.

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