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Speaker 2: Lacey Mosley aka scam God, is back with another installment
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Speaker 2: but one thing's for sure, we will always laugh at them,
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I low ke you feel like I
Speaker 2: kidnapped y'all today because I just did the mess and
Speaker 2: then we all drove over.
Speaker 1: Here together because y'all live very New Yorkers, and.
Speaker 2: Can y'all comments on my driving and say how good
Speaker 2: it was and how alive y'all are. Well. At one
Speaker 2: point you said, oh, I haven't drove in a while,
Speaker 2: and I said, m h since, But I.
Speaker 1: Was like, so, how are you getting around? I said, well,
Speaker 1: why are we in it? Why are we? Because I've
Speaker 1: been flying and stuff? Right?
Speaker 2: Yes again yeah the road in the sky, yes, fighting,
Speaker 2: fighting the sky demons.
Speaker 1: It's hard to be in the sky these days. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, especially if you are a Spirit member pir
Speaker 1: In Airline. Do they have a rewards program? Do they?
Speaker 1: I think it's called Ghosts Especially if you a Ghost
Speaker 1: Platinum Platin.
Speaker 2: You get a seat belt for sure, Hey, let you
Speaker 2: bring a jup, not a little cup of juices. I'm
Speaker 2: Ghost Platinum. I get to wear my jacket on the plane.
Speaker 2: What you get to bring two bags. Wow. So at
Speaker 2: the start of this podcast, we always ask now your
Speaker 2: opinions about scams, schemes, and real things. So to define
Speaker 2: that a scam is something that we can absolutely say
Speaker 2: is a crime and is ripping people off. A scheme
Speaker 2: feels like a crime, but it's legal, and sometimes it's
Speaker 2: not a crime, and sometimes it feels like it is.
Speaker 1: And then a real thing is something that we believe
Speaker 1: is necessary. You know, I have encountered a scheme. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: but I want to know about your scheme.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No.
Speaker 3: My scheme was when I was in Alaska and there
Speaker 3: was a sea otter excursion. So when I hear excursion,
Speaker 3: you know, it's you know, it's a voyage and I
Speaker 3: feel like I'm going to be up close and personal
Speaker 3: with whatever the excursion is about. But this excursion, we
Speaker 3: were very far away and we had to get our
Speaker 3: binoculars out to actually encounter the sea otters. So that
Speaker 3: felt like a scheme, like did you want to pick
Speaker 3: the want with the nigga?
Speaker 1: You wanted to.
Speaker 2: Ride the otder like free Willy of the Mound. I
Speaker 2: I wanted to be able to exchange you know, you know,
Speaker 2: so security numbers.
Speaker 1: If possible now, but our otter is violent. I know
Speaker 1: seals are a little you do otters have nails. I
Speaker 1: don't know if others be whooped your ass. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think so.
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think they're kind of like chill.
Speaker 3: They're kind of low key lazy if you think about it.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is like you, I thought that about seals,
Speaker 2: and then I keep seeing seal attacks.
Speaker 1: Wait, who are they don't even have arms.
Speaker 3: They they chest bumping and they had button.
Speaker 2: Come on, Joe, I was very embarrassed because not you
Speaker 2: flopped over here and got me. I think the attack.
Speaker 1: You gotta show us the run. You know.
Speaker 2: There was like this beach thing. It was recently on
Speaker 2: TikTok where somebody was taking a video of these two
Speaker 2: white women who were trapped on the rocks because they
Speaker 2: said don't get too close to the seals. But of
Speaker 2: course they were like, oh my god, we gotta get
Speaker 2: a pick with the seals. So they went over to
Speaker 2: this rock and then all the seals started going over
Speaker 2: there and they couldn't get off the rock.
Speaker 1: But is that a seal attack or that's them around
Speaker 1: and find out? Yeah, they jumped.
Speaker 2: Into the seals then they should. I mean the seals
Speaker 2: didn't they just gonna hug you to death.
Speaker 1: I don't know. They should have started singing seal to yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know a white woman love a seal so
Speaker 3: that it can't be in a shout out to right
Speaker 3: out there for us.
Speaker 1: She was like a walrist circle. Those fight. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like a wal does fight. I always say them
Speaker 1: like doing that. They like ram each other, they like
Speaker 1: to tussle. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be involved in that. And I
Speaker 2: also want to say this again for the people in
Speaker 2: the back. Hippos are terrible. They're murderers. They be killing everybody.
Speaker 2: They have great pr and we need to really like
Speaker 2: let the people know.
Speaker 1: Let me let me do it, can may I if I'm.
Speaker 2: Looking up hippoles can run underwater where they love to fight.
Speaker 2: But why are you where the hippos live. They're probably
Speaker 2: on an excursion. No again, white people leave these animals
Speaker 2: where they at.
Speaker 3: Okay, Sydney except Sydney, because when Sydney is near the animals,
Speaker 3: it's all love in the club.
Speaker 1: We all fo.
Speaker 2: See Sydney at sea. That's because hippos are responsible for
Speaker 2: hundreds of human deaths.
Speaker 1: Each year. But where do hippos live.
Speaker 2: Let's let's get back to at they spot, right, So
Speaker 2: you at the hippos house, shoes still on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to get close.
Speaker 2: To it just because it looks cuddly or you've seen
Speaker 2: a cartoon or a movie or a you've played hungry
Speaker 2: Hungry hippos as a kid, doesn't mean that these things are.
Speaker 1: Toys and they don't even look that inviting at all.
Speaker 2: And honestly, the game was telling us that seals were like,
Speaker 2: fuck the hungry hungry hippos, meaning they just like.
Speaker 1: Chum jump jump jump um um umph. No, that's fat phobia.
Speaker 1: That's what that is. Whoa phobia? Hungry hungry hippos.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're calling the hippos people or are you calling
Speaker 2: the hippos big?
Speaker 1: No? I think you don't want to call them. That's
Speaker 1: what it happened. I like that, you know what, we
Speaker 1: got hippo body positivity over here. And sometimes it's okay
Speaker 1: to be quiet, and that's what.
Speaker 2: I'm like, could be having a meal. We're not judging
Speaker 2: how much the hippo eas I'm just saying why I
Speaker 2: got to eat so fast? And why is see how
Speaker 2: much a hippo eats in a day? Like how many
Speaker 2: tons or how much do they weigh?
Speaker 1: No, we're on the standing.
Speaker 3: I want to say it is a tangent, but I
Speaker 3: just want to tell you it's a scheme because it
Speaker 3: costs two hundred dollars per person. This is surgeon for
Speaker 3: this excursion for us to see the sea otters. And
Speaker 3: we see them, but we don't see them. Do you understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so hippo.
Speaker 2: Is three thousand, five hundred to nine nine hundred pounds
Speaker 2: for a male adult.
Speaker 1: WHOA, Yeah, they're heavy there. It's running at you. You're
Speaker 1: gonna get It's like getting hit by a car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a mack truck. Does a car weigh nine thousand pounds? No?
Speaker 1: A truck? Yeah. But I agree with you that the
Speaker 1: excursion was a scheme.
Speaker 2: But I also kind of wonder if they didn't have
Speaker 2: like the right permits to get that close to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't even yell when you're near them.
Speaker 2: You got to be if I pay two hundred dollars,
Speaker 2: I should be able to yell at some seas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I should be able to you're that's how I
Speaker 3: should be able to pull up on them.
Speaker 1: But if I.
Speaker 2: Pay two hundred dollars. I need to play the sea
Speaker 2: Otters my mixtape. Yeah, like I should be able to
Speaker 2: do anything. We have a nice chat. I'm with y'all
Speaker 2: like I'm for real, because then what does a two
Speaker 2: hundred dollars cover being kind of nearish?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, pretty much?
Speaker 3: And you know, you see a bald eagle in a tree,
Speaker 3: you'll see a well, you know, free willie, like you
Speaker 3: do get to see things in the new But I
Speaker 3: just wanted to be a tot bit closer and by tad,
Speaker 3: I wanted to be able to go boop on it
Speaker 3: for it me stay away from hip host you.
Speaker 1: Next week we'll see Sidney writing an hotter. I don't think,
Speaker 1: is it up? WHOA, I'm sorry I took you there.
Speaker 2: Sorry, No, I love when people take ta me through
Speaker 2: there your show.
Speaker 1: Scam scheme or a real thing.
Speaker 2: My first question for both of you is least agreements.
Speaker 2: Do you think they're a scam scheme or a real thing.
Speaker 2: Obviously they're a real thing, and then I considered ilegal,
Speaker 2: but it's a real You feel about them though, well,
Speaker 2: I feel like landlords suck, but a lease agreement means
Speaker 2: that I live here and you can't kick me out,
Speaker 2: that's true, but like some leases are month to month.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they just be like you've been here, you cool,
Speaker 2: like you haven't signed anything since you moved in. But
Speaker 2: I think it depends on the landlord or if you're
Speaker 2: at a corporation, because for me, it's starting to give
Speaker 2: real schemy, because why why is the rent going up
Speaker 2: every year and the amenities are not getting newer or nicer?
Speaker 1: That's why is a month more expensive than it? Locked
Speaker 1: me in.
Speaker 3: After every three years you supposed to repaint my shit?
Speaker 3: Why is it still living dingy and dirty? Like I've
Speaker 3: been here for you know, forty days and forty nights.
Speaker 3: I mean I have been there for forty days forty nights,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: why why is it? Why is all the like fingerprints
Speaker 3: everywhere from like five years ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah, my house is house, but like the my part
Speaker 2: is painted and like one thing if y'all don't know this,
Speaker 2: like if you paint a place and you've lived there
Speaker 2: for over three years, in most states, you got to
Speaker 2: check your state regulations. But like they can't take away
Speaker 2: from your housing deposit to paint because they have to
Speaker 2: paint regardless every two years, every two month, every two years,
Speaker 2: two months, every two years. In New York, you're supposed
Speaker 2: to paint your apartment. Really, I've been in my apartment
Speaker 2: for six years. My landlord just painted it last month.
Speaker 1: Wow. And I had to send an email like because
Speaker 1: my rent went up.
Speaker 2: Okay, So with my wrist called I need to be like,
Speaker 2: y'all give me a brand new paint job. Hey, my
Speaker 2: rent is going up. Nothing is changed in here. It
Speaker 2: needs a fresh coat to paint. And I actually said
Speaker 2: I need you to read grout these tiles in his bathroom.
Speaker 1: I know that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's crazy that orange stuff is coming out
Speaker 3: of the sinks. I mean, the floors are lifting, the
Speaker 3: light fixtures is weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They need to come up in here and do
Speaker 1: some home improvement for sure. The fault no plate.
Speaker 2: No, you know I'm a New Yorker having earthquakes like that.
Speaker 2: We had two earthquakes.
Speaker 1: In New York. Did you know that?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: They really affected you. Yes? Can you give us give
Speaker 1: us our time? Last year we had an earthquake in
Speaker 1: New York City. Don't nothing in New York need to
Speaker 1: shake like that? Hey?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And it hasn't about it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see no skyscraper shaking girls sweat.
Speaker 2: And you know, we don't like y'all build things to
Speaker 2: like sway here. Yeah, our stuff don't sway. It can
Speaker 2: come crashing down.
Speaker 3: Another thing about the lease agreement is because at first
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, fuck them landlords, but then you meet
Speaker 3: some people and it's like, oh they're shisty too. Everybody
Speaker 3: gotta sign, everybody gotta sign. But it's like, are you
Speaker 3: gonna follow what the least says?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't like rules, even though they signed,
Speaker 3: give they signature, they autograph, they'll go off and do
Speaker 3: some extra shit. It's like, hey, you're not supposed to
Speaker 3: be putting all these holes in these walls, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: you know, hey.
Speaker 2: Come fill the holes up so I can get my
Speaker 2: deposit back. I'm gonna get some task rabbits. Yes you
Speaker 2: have to, yeah, you really do.
Speaker 1: And then and then you don't have to worry about
Speaker 1: paying for that.
Speaker 2: I saw a TikTok about a lady who had an
Speaker 2: airbnb that somebody like remodeled while they were staying in it, Like.
Speaker 1: How did it look bad? Apartment?
Speaker 2: Maybe it was a rental, but it was like no,
Speaker 2: they like it was given like they were using it
Speaker 2: for TikTok, like d I Y, like I'm gonna turn.
Speaker 1: My calar and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell that lady house what did she tear it
Speaker 2: up or elevate?
Speaker 1: No, it looked bad. It was given real do it yourself?
Speaker 1: Did it yourself? Did it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It's like you walked in and you see it and
Speaker 2: you're like, you did this yourself?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, d I supposed to be like a surprise like
Speaker 2: I did They is positive?
Speaker 1: Did it yourself is negative? Yes? Yeah, yeah, did you
Speaker 1: do this yourself?
Speaker 3: Because if somebody say that, you know it's not it's
Speaker 3: not good.
Speaker 1: D e I Y don't do it yourself?
Speaker 2: Yes, you know you could have hired somebody for this, right,
Speaker 2: People go to school for this when people start recommending,
Speaker 2: like people like I got the you haven't been on
Speaker 2: Angie's list, because you need to get.
Speaker 1: On her list.
Speaker 2: Angie's listens like they have all the like like home
Speaker 2: fixer upper, like people.
Speaker 1: Do she know Craig, You ain't got to lie Craig.
Speaker 1: Craig went with each other like that, But well, Craig is.
Speaker 2: Where the schemes and the scams are, it's also some
Speaker 2: real stuff on there.
Speaker 1: I've gotten some cool furniture from Yeah.
Speaker 2: Christmas, I think, Angie, well, see you got your furniture.
Speaker 2: You probably be sh your life a little bit. Oh,
Speaker 2: this was back before people were killing people on Craigslist.
Speaker 1: I feel like I think everybody from the beginning of
Speaker 1: getting killed on.
Speaker 2: In the beginning, first day he was killing on, they
Speaker 2: realized it was a great opportunity.
Speaker 1: Beginning of craigs. It was it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: a buff part humans.
Speaker 3: I think maybe one or two days tops, very nice.
Speaker 3: And then and then everybody was like, you know, instead
Speaker 3: of killing my wife, why would I kill on Craigslist.
Speaker 1: There was a Craigslist killer. There was a whole dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think he was meeting people for love. If
Speaker 1: you're looking for love through Craig, well, there used to
Speaker 1: be miss connections.
Speaker 2: Yeah, connections should have stayed missed. That was probably God's protection. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you shouldn't have probably looked for that connection.
Speaker 1: For a reason.
Speaker 2: I used to read them though, Yeah, because it was interesting,
Speaker 2: especially because it'd be a lot from New York, like
Speaker 2: saw you on the two train, like you and a
Speaker 2: red hoodie, me wearing vans and it's like, Okay, that
Speaker 2: could be anybody, Like that's a normal Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I would read them sometimes and be like, I wonder
Speaker 1: if that was me?
Speaker 2: Right? I thought that would be a new lord for
Speaker 2: the for the Craigslist killers like Misconnection, it's just say
Speaker 2: random stuff. You and the white T shirt and the
Speaker 2: kids with the jeans. You Adidas sneakers and barrel jeans.
Speaker 1: Me in a Gucci suit with loafers. That's how you
Speaker 1: get them. Oh he got money? All right.
Speaker 3: I would never be on Misconnection because you got to
Speaker 3: be on public transportation for that. And I'm like, girl,
Speaker 3: I'm in.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm in the hell. Okay, what about this one?
Speaker 2: I picked this one for you sitting a scam schemer,
Speaker 2: real thing education apps such as like a.
Speaker 1: Dual lingo or you really did that? You're gonna do
Speaker 1: that to God? Yeah, it aspired me. You're gonna do
Speaker 1: that today. I just want to know if you think
Speaker 1: it's a scam, the schemer a real thing.
Speaker 3: I think it's in between real thing and scheme because
Speaker 3: duel Ingo has helped many people I know to going
Speaker 3: to you know, to roam or they got Mexico off
Speaker 3: of at that moment. At that moment, they're getting fluid.
Speaker 1: The owl says, yes, you know the little duelingo bird.
Speaker 1: He'd be like, you're doing great, Yeah, we know that bird.
Speaker 2: That bird also gets real passive, aggressive and mean if
Speaker 2: you don't show up. But we spend ten days out
Speaker 2: in the street. Right, you don't got culture no more?
Speaker 2: You said, you just gave us, well fuck you.
Speaker 3: Then, oh my god, dulo. So you was only doing
Speaker 3: it for summer?
Speaker 1: Huh? Okay, what about the fall? What about the one bitch.
Speaker 3: I was like eat prey? Huh oh, y'all broke up?
Speaker 3: So you don't want to know Italian anymore?
Speaker 1: Okay? Cool? Cool? So but but so you said it's
Speaker 1: a scheme. You said, it's like right in.
Speaker 3: Between, it's a real thing because people do use it
Speaker 3: for whatever trip that's coming, do a lingo.
Speaker 1: But then there's other apps.
Speaker 3: It's like how do you get you know, you're getting
Speaker 3: better self esteem or learning how to you know, speak
Speaker 3: English fluently, or being able to public like public speak.
Speaker 3: There's apps like that, And there is a line where
Speaker 3: it's like why is it seventy nine ninety nine every month?
Speaker 1: Right? And how much are you teaching me?
Speaker 3: For that, because I still have to teach myself too
Speaker 3: by going into the app doing it every day.
Speaker 2: I'm got a professor or nothing. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 2: we should just do that.
Speaker 1: With like books, well remember books?
Speaker 2: Wait what books used to just you would just read
Speaker 2: it yourself and then you learn how to what's book?
Speaker 1: Weren't we in a book club?
Speaker 2: And then the second book were like you know what
Speaker 2: and we said the same for us, so we did.
Speaker 1: We did through the book Amina.
Speaker 3: Oh, the third one, the third way we said it
Speaker 3: was a book of month and it's now months.
Speaker 1: That was very classic about to try though. You don't
Speaker 1: get very busy, you know, man, I mean you've been
Speaker 1: you know, have you read it? You've been like what
Speaker 1: did I miss the page? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But we are read I tiw my ADHD works. I'll
Speaker 2: read three pages and be like what did I just read?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 3: And sometimes they have apps for that like how to
Speaker 3: how to get away with murder? No, no, no, how
Speaker 3: to memorize things, or how to better I have brain
Speaker 3: fog right now.
Speaker 2: No. But see I feel like the betterment apps like
Speaker 2: it's as much as you use it, as much as
Speaker 2: you try to get out of it. I feel like
Speaker 2: it's there for you. But then you had like creepy
Speaker 2: apps like co Star, where it was supposed to be
Speaker 2: giving you insights into your you have the pattern and
Speaker 2: costar and the pattern is real sketchy.
Speaker 1: If you're still using that. First of all, what year
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? No, delete it. The pattern is really
Speaker 1: really invasive.
Speaker 3: I did that during the pandemic. I had so much
Speaker 3: time one time.
Speaker 2: It was like, I know that your relationship with Emily
Speaker 2: may be fraud at the moment or something like that. Said,
Speaker 2: first of all, Emily is my assistant. That's why we
Speaker 2: talk every day at the time, and I'm like, why
Speaker 2: are you in my phone reading my text messages and
Speaker 2: then predicted stuff off of my text Like.
Speaker 1: Wait, it's going through your your text message, just going
Speaker 1: through everything. Oh my god, that's scary.
Speaker 3: What about you, Marie? What do you What do you
Speaker 3: think it's about? Is it a scheme?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: The apps?
Speaker 2: The educational apps, I feel like some of them are good, right,
Speaker 2: Like some people you know, use master Class and they
Speaker 2: learn stuff from that.
Speaker 1: That one is good. I'd pay for that, yeah, And
Speaker 1: then I feel like it's other ones that like I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's an app that teaches you how to cook
Speaker 2: or something, but for sure, but then a lot of
Speaker 2: things like that you pay a monthly fee for or
Speaker 2: a yearly fee for. They count on people forgetting, for forgetting. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they count on you forgetting. So they just raking in
Speaker 2: bool books and you not learning anything.
Speaker 1: But you're spending the money. You're spending the money, and
Speaker 1: or you already spent it you didn't even know.
Speaker 2: And I feel like sometimes those type of apps stop
Speaker 2: sending your notifications because they want you to forget, Like
Speaker 2: if you're not logging in enough, like you still pay.
Speaker 1: The free ones be like, hey, hey, hi, hey girl,
Speaker 1: can you come outside?
Speaker 2: What do you want to.
Speaker 1: Get on here so we can nickel and dime you. Hey,
Speaker 1: we miss you, But the free ones be like, but
Speaker 1: the free ones also be like, yeah, come on over here,
Speaker 1: it's all free.
Speaker 2: And then they'd be like, if you want to unlock
Speaker 2: the real app, they actually give us.
Speaker 3: The money, what's up with that? And then don't forget
Speaker 3: about not reading the fine print. They're like, oh, you
Speaker 3: put your card down, you get you know, two months free,
Speaker 3: but then if you don't cancel it, then we were
Speaker 3: gonna keep charging you and that has happened to me.
Speaker 2: So there's a two ways that you can avoid that. One,
Speaker 2: set a reminder on your phone for like the day
Speaker 2: before or a few days, but the week before you
Speaker 2: gotta delete that and then remind us of every day
Speaker 2: until it's time to delete it. Or go to your
Speaker 2: credit card or your phone has like subscript Yep, you
Speaker 2: can go straight to that and then turn off.
Speaker 3: But that in order for that, you've got to not
Speaker 3: have executive dysfunction, which I have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too, which is why I try to
Speaker 2: use it for the specific purpose I need, and then
Speaker 2: I immediately turn it off while I'm like, might still
Speaker 2: be open, and I've already turned off the subscription, right
Speaker 2: because if I even if I set the alarm, I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, i'll do that later.
Speaker 3: Snooze snooze never happens. I forgot what I did that too.
Speaker 3: But they will ban you, like if you've done that
Speaker 3: too many times?
Speaker 1: For what?
Speaker 3: Ban you for just agreeing to the tone we're doing
Speaker 3: the terms and then canceling.
Speaker 2: Well, if I canceled, I don't need the no more, y'all.
Speaker 2: I canceled you first.
Speaker 1: That's being like you're fired. I already quit.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, you're like, I hit it first, bru with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's over.
Speaker 2: I said it first, Scald, I love that, okay. And
Speaker 2: then the last one scam scheme or real thing.
Speaker 1: Way moos those cars with no people in them.
Speaker 2: Yes, the self driving cars that were starting to see
Speaker 2: emerged in major cities more and more. I know they
Speaker 2: definitely have them in Los Angeles, they have them in
Speaker 2: San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Do they have weimos in New York?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: The mayor said absolutely.
Speaker 3: That's not because my mayor makes sense, but he cares
Speaker 3: about our lives. Those those things don't see black people.
Speaker 2: You know what. Famously, famously this technology is made with
Speaker 2: the with white men scientists or white men designers or
Speaker 2: I don't know, engineers. Yeah, it's just like how when
Speaker 2: you put your hands on our automatic stinks, you got
Speaker 2: to show the white part.
Speaker 1: So you got to show the white part. They don't
Speaker 1: see dark skin. So that's why I've been having so
Speaker 1: many issues. That's why it is so dirty, because that's
Speaker 1: not true.
Speaker 3: But when I was on the cruise, I was having
Speaker 3: a hard time getting the soap, getting the water.
Speaker 1: People don't cruise, how white people? Funny, I need water
Speaker 1: for hold on. The funny thing is it's made for
Speaker 1: white skin versus dark skin.
Speaker 2: But I feel in my mind, in my personal black
Speaker 2: ass opinion, black people are more what's the word, They're
Speaker 2: more likely to wash.
Speaker 1: Their hands in somebody beige anyway. So I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say that, you know, to the base's communities.
Speaker 1: I know they listen. Yeah, but I do agree that,
Speaker 1: like the hand thing, I'm like, come on, now, you
Speaker 1: know where you washing our hands?
Speaker 3: So it should have been for I'm just gonna say
Speaker 3: no to that, Marie, because they hit cats, and the
Speaker 3: cats cal cats the way moos in San Francisco hit.
Speaker 1: A cat a little bit black.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: They hit in tuxedo cats too.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Famously.
Speaker 3: You know, the black cats are really hard to adopt.
Speaker 3: They're like black cat lives matter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the things that they cross your paths, you gotta
Speaker 1: turn around the way.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, that cat lit like that
Speaker 3: should have began.
Speaker 1: He was a good Salem can I just say, I
Speaker 1: saw Carline Ray. I love Caroline.
Speaker 2: So she was one of the aunts on Sabrina the
Speaker 2: Teenage Witch. She says people still come up to her
Speaker 2: to this day. And they'd be like, what's that cat real?
Speaker 1: What would they think that?
Speaker 3: And that's why Waimo is not a scam or a
Speaker 3: scheme because it's all the people. It's like, why would
Speaker 3: you get in a in a car that does not
Speaker 3: have a driver.
Speaker 1: Why would you do that? You don't care about your
Speaker 1: life even if the car.
Speaker 3: Says, hey, we are self driving, We're gonna take care
Speaker 3: of everything now, why would I put my life on
Speaker 3: the line like that?
Speaker 1: But people use them.
Speaker 2: I saw on TikTok like there was a way mode
Speaker 2: that got pulled over by the police. Why, I said, No,
Speaker 2: I guess it was moving from side to side in
Speaker 2: the road. And I'm like, not the way more drunk?
Speaker 1: How you drunk that diesel fuel right there?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, who is in the back? Somebody black? That's what.
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: What back Supremacist podcast?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I personally just think that because we have
Speaker 2: some greedy, weird as billionaires who have no relationships to
Speaker 2: human like human nature.
Speaker 1: Humanity anymore.
Speaker 2: They're just creating things that nobody ever asked for and
Speaker 2: nobody needs. I don't need a I don't need a
Speaker 2: car on the road that can't drive.
Speaker 3: No people that you ask for this kind of because
Speaker 3: they tired of talking to the drivers, especially in LA
Speaker 3: the way your drivers are actors.
Speaker 1: I'm a lawyer.
Speaker 2: Are you not here?
Speaker 1: The silence preferred that yeah, that's I don't know. We
Speaker 1: don't give you that option.
Speaker 2: We're not even over yes, oh yeah, no, I mean
Speaker 2: you don't really have to Yeah, put their the Aramax
Speaker 2: pros on. Remember the guy we were in the uber
Speaker 2: going to Zach's wedding and he started talking about he
Speaker 2: didn't vote for Kamala, and then he was saying, uh,
Speaker 2: he was, he was transphobic, he was homophobic.
Speaker 1: He did all of that in twenty minutes. TOPSYA, why
Speaker 1: did he need y'all to know all of this?
Speaker 2: That's LA we must have lo you answered the question
Speaker 2: from must look like industry babe. Okay, notice, hey can.
Speaker 1: We put the music?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: Why A He's starting out with like, I ain't vote
Speaker 1: for that black lady. He wanted us as black women
Speaker 1: to know he didn't vote for a.
Speaker 3: Black lady because that's that's comforting and the WEIMO would
Speaker 3: never Okay, so actually want to be fair.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to drive you through a lake.
Speaker 2: But also didn't vote for Kamalus so yeah, the weymo
Speaker 2: definitely did voted for Trump for sure, Oh for sure.
Speaker 2: And on that note, we're going to get into my
Speaker 2: favorite segment of the show, Historic Hoodwinks. This is where
Speaker 2: I'm gonna regale Sidney and Marie with a famous con
Speaker 2: caper a group of criminals. And what a wonderful segue
Speaker 2: we just had here, because we're talking about a med
Speaker 2: student in India in need of cash for school to
Speaker 2: immigrate to the US created a fake MAGA influencer grift
Speaker 2: for conservatives online. I love it now, he said, fake.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I'm with you right now. So this
Speaker 2: med student, he needed a smart idea. This camera was
Speaker 2: twenty two year old aspiring bone and joint surgeon from
Speaker 2: northern India. He gave an interview to Wired magazine but
Speaker 2: didn't use his real name. They called him Sam, and
Speaker 2: they said Sam has dreams of moving to the US
Speaker 2: after graduation and he doesn't want his money making technique
Speaker 2: to threaten that plan. Okay, why are you giving interviews
Speaker 2: if you don't want your money making technique.
Speaker 1: To threaten the plan? Yeah, what's wrong with him? Why
Speaker 1: are you being loud? I don't want my bone and
Speaker 1: joint doctor to be this dumb.
Speaker 2: Med school is expensive everywhere, Okay, obviously in India it
Speaker 2: can cost like between fifty thousand dollars and two hundred
Speaker 2: thousand US to graduate, depending on what school you go
Speaker 2: to and how well you.
Speaker 1: Score on your tests. Okay, if you score better, all
Speaker 1: your test is cheaper. That's nice, they said, school. Oh cool, So.
Speaker 2: That's a lot when the average annual income in India
Speaker 2: is about three thousand dollars. So Sam got some money
Speaker 2: from his parents, but he had to spend most of
Speaker 2: it to pay for medical licensing exams. He needed a
Speaker 2: side gig, so he tried making YouTube shorts and he
Speaker 2: sold study notes to other med students. But it wasn't
Speaker 2: cutting it. Other med students were doing the same thing
Speaker 2: and he needed an original idea. So when you need
Speaker 2: an original idea, where do you turn?
Speaker 1: AI? I will say chat GPT That's what I was
Speaker 1: gonna say.
Speaker 2: Maybe, well, if the YouTube tu toials is not working,
Speaker 2: you think the only fan.
Speaker 1: Is going hit?
Speaker 2: It might depending on your niche if he had good feet,
Speaker 2: he could just keep his face out of girl.
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta show that belly button hole. You
Speaker 1: think people paying prime dollar for men feet. I mean this,
Speaker 1: men out there might want to look at the foot too,
Speaker 1: and then you might have a dainty foot.
Speaker 2: I met a guy recently who had like foot feet
Speaker 2: that definitely could be mistaken for like a beautiful woman's foot,
Speaker 2: an elegant foot.
Speaker 1: He ain't got me the thinking.
Speaker 2: I was like, like if we kept his body out
Speaker 2: of it and it was just his pretty feet, and
Speaker 2: I did the voiceover work because my feet be given.
Speaker 2: Like I'm dancing in glass, so.
Speaker 3: Dancing in the glass. We need to sort of gofund
Speaker 3: me for your feet dancing and glass. My mind is,
Speaker 3: you know, stepping on cold, but yours is dancing on glass.
Speaker 3: Y'all don't begin the the thing at the pedicure place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get my regular pedicure. That's just or it
Speaker 1: makes it grow back more. It sounds like y'all got
Speaker 1: some rough feet on this side of the two. You
Speaker 1: ain't never did like the you're a jerk, but like
Speaker 1: in glass, like you need a pummy stone. That's what
Speaker 1: I have that I have all the footstuff, us stuff.
Speaker 2: Ill using the stone when I get in the showers
Speaker 2: every day. Yeah, damn, you might got to get a
Speaker 2: new stone.
Speaker 1: Bron Marie fixed my life Now.
Speaker 2: So Sam tried making an AI generated hot girl using
Speaker 2: Google geminized nana banana pro.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that, but.
Speaker 2: Right, So he was gonna try to sell bikini photos
Speaker 2: of her online, which is a classic strategy.
Speaker 1: Now I really hate it because who's the lady's face
Speaker 1: is this?
Speaker 2: And why y'all trying to AI her body on somebody
Speaker 2: else's body, even tho I already hated with AI.
Speaker 1: So this is the hot girl that he picked for.
Speaker 2: A Maga hot girl. I feel like that's perfect peak. Nah,
Speaker 2: she's actually too hot Magga girl.
Speaker 1: They never look like it. Like their eybas are not
Speaker 1: this symmetrical, Yeah they're not. Their eyebrows aren't even like.
Speaker 1: But she's young. She's a young maga. Y'all thinking about
Speaker 1: the elder wives. Oh yes, yeah, you're right, and you
Speaker 1: know the maga dudes need somebody who like twenty two, Yes,
Speaker 1: just get more so more so eighteen seventeen. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: say nineteen. That's we're being generous, Yes we are. So
Speaker 1: they're endless how.
Speaker 2: To videos that show you how to create an AI influencer.
Speaker 2: So these are somehow to videos. I love that the
Speaker 2: AI influencers are all the same, like white women in
Speaker 2: the different.
Speaker 1: To be fair, Oh, that's what the brands be looking for.
Speaker 1: That is what they look for. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 2: Which I don't understand because how does the market not
Speaker 2: get oversaturated when so many of y'all look alike?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 2: You see them on TikTok. They all wear alo, they
Speaker 2: all go to Pilate's reformer. They all drink ice, they all.
Speaker 1: Look like it.
Speaker 2: They all gotta Stanley cuse houses cream. Yeah, cream, they
Speaker 2: don't use creamy cream. They're always like, everyone's always asking
Speaker 2: me about this product that I get. Everyone's always asking
Speaker 2: me about it. I'm like, who are these everyone's that
Speaker 2: be asking you all about stuff? Start like there are
Speaker 2: one point seven million followers and they be asking them, yes,
Speaker 2: do you see the comments?
Speaker 1: Where's it from? Where's the link? Where's the question? Girl?
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's me. I'm the song.
Speaker 3: It will be like they'll be like somebody's grandma just died,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, yo, that that song though?
Speaker 1: Where from?
Speaker 2: What casket is that? What cast is that anything? It'll
Speaker 2: be like what's the paint color? And it's like, whoa.
Speaker 2: They're just trying to get engagement. Yeah, what what do
Speaker 2: you casket from?
Speaker 1: Where? Cast from casket brand?
Speaker 2: But then actually I have gone on the casket like
Speaker 2: dive on TikTok and they will tell you where the
Speaker 2: caskets are from or like they know there's a body
Speaker 2: in it or just bodyless getting to the bodyless ones
Speaker 2: from the one with the body in it, and it'll
Speaker 2: be like a link like.
Speaker 1: Look at this casket. Yes, but you have different than mine,
Speaker 1: the air puns, the airbrush ones. Have you seen those
Speaker 1: airbrush caskets on the inside of it? On the outside
Speaker 1: saying the outside, Yeah, it's like Pip my ride, but
Speaker 1: your last ride to the ground forever hip my final rock.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and instead of it be like clouds in
Speaker 3: the sky, whatever the angel, it's gonna be the dance club.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a disco tech. It's my favorite painting
Speaker 1: of the people. Oh that's beautiful with the bodies, Like
Speaker 1: that's what you get. I love that. That's a cute,
Speaker 1: thank you, But I feel like it's custom.
Speaker 2: It's extra wrapping up. I watched the girl who be
Speaker 2: wrapping the caskets like you wrap a car, No, like
Speaker 2: you wrap a casket.
Speaker 1: Gyro wrap it like, ay, oh, you know what I do?
Speaker 1: Like wings?
Speaker 3: So if somebody can spray paint some wings, you want
Speaker 3: wings like angel wing? No, no, no, like wings like
Speaker 3: terry yacky barbecue Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Have you heard garlic parmesant?
Speaker 2: That's what Honestly, it's such late stage capitalism. But I
Speaker 2: might need my cast get sponsored by Buffalo wild wing.
Speaker 1: Let's do it? Telldegging night all ads on there she's
Speaker 1: sponsored by Nessli.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's crazy, you know why because I'm gonna need
Speaker 3: that money in the afterlife as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bury me with it like King tut right, everybody
Speaker 1: talking about you can't take it with you.
Speaker 2: You certainly watch me hold on out bit right?
Speaker 1: How hard I work to get this? Put that money?
Speaker 1: So they're like in this like how two videos on
Speaker 1: how to do this?
Speaker 2: Sam started out posting photos of a beautiful, scantily clad
Speaker 2: woman on Instagram, but he wasn't getting any views. He
Speaker 2: asked Gemini, this is the ai AP for advice again.
Speaker 2: The answer was, if you create a generic hot girl,
Speaker 2: you're competing with millions of other models. So his generic
Speaker 2: hot it was just like that, like we were saying
Speaker 2: with the like the blondie and the coffee in the
Speaker 2: swim suit. That's not interesting enough. No more, because they
Speaker 2: got too many generic cockrols. That's what the computer said.
Speaker 2: Sam says he presented him and I with a few
Speaker 2: possible options to give his model a personal flare, and
Speaker 2: the chat box selected maga conservative as the prompt, calling
Speaker 2: it a cheat code for making money. The ai AP said,
Speaker 2: the conservative audience, especially older men in the US, often
Speaker 2: has a higher disposable income, and it's more loyal.
Speaker 1: Oh no, more loser, that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, no, because I think it is loyal because
Speaker 2: think about it, like, they will let you do anything
Speaker 2: to them. They'll let you lie to their faces. They'll
Speaker 2: let your gas prices go up like everybody. They'll take
Speaker 2: your picture, your four oh one K, they'll take it out.
Speaker 1: Of your mind. They'll make you raise your granddaughter niece.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're still like, I'm loyal to this because
Speaker 2: now this brand is a part of my identity. So
Speaker 2: if I say the brand is wrong, I'm saying that
Speaker 2: I'm wrong and everything I stood for is gonna crumble.
Speaker 1: These are my rats. Yeah. Also, I feel like.
Speaker 2: Old conservative people in general would be less likely to
Speaker 2: be able to spot Ai.
Speaker 1: Girl, Ai is getting really good stuff.
Speaker 2: And I'd be like, oh, I didn't look at this cat.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, I have to read the comments
Speaker 2: and give times. I have to take my leg back.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, you gotta stop liking everything. You
Speaker 3: cannot like every day. I stop my hands before I
Speaker 3: do this. I got to read the comments.
Speaker 1: Finger starts shaking.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, look at this cat swimming.
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, that's cool. And then this aim.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did get caught with this dog going into
Speaker 3: a burning house. And then the dog comes out with
Speaker 3: the with the kid, and the dog dies.
Speaker 1: The dog or was the kid in the dog's mouth?
Speaker 1: The kid was in the dog's mouth. And that wasn't
Speaker 1: weird to you because he was pulling the kid out
Speaker 1: of the building. He's holding the kid by the back
Speaker 1: of his head like a cub, like a baby cub.
Speaker 1: And I said, oh my god. And then the dog died.
Speaker 1: I was yes, because it was in the fire. What
Speaker 1: kind of dog was it? It was what do you
Speaker 1: call it? The golden damn? They made the dog come out.
Speaker 1: He was a black lad. The comments was like, good
Speaker 1: for him. I wanted to be on your side. That
Speaker 1: one is a little wise. That's why I said it
Speaker 1: was the kid on the back of the dog. On
Speaker 1: the back of the dog, that would also look like no,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, yeah, sure.
Speaker 2: I keep seeing the one with the babies where they
Speaker 2: pick up pets and then they like trying to throw
Speaker 2: the pit in the trash or they like, oh.
Speaker 1: That was a real. No, but maybe there's a fake
Speaker 1: of what we saw that was real. Gotta be yeah,
Speaker 1: gotta what that one wasn't rab.
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So Emily Hart, this is who Sam created, Emily Heart,
Speaker 1: a fake registered nurse who looks like Jennifer Lawrence. I
Speaker 1: don't think. I think.
Speaker 2: I think that's what the chatbot was trying to get
Speaker 2: her to. So he got her in a body te
Speaker 2: body tea. He got her an American flag swimsuits.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, he picked a great career because it's
Speaker 2: a lot of maga nurses.
Speaker 1: So that was no.
Speaker 3: But the glove being black, no, yeah, or that's giving uh,
Speaker 3: that's given O. J.
Speaker 1: Simpson's proper glove. Well, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: A tattoo artists, last technician. It's hairstylists people.
Speaker 1: The blood is on the dance floor for sure.
Speaker 2: I felt very pointed the way you said that Sidney.
Speaker 2: People who are doing your feet, Yeah, her feet.
Speaker 1: It's also like that's a glass. It's like and then
Speaker 1: like you see the peace sign.
Speaker 2: How the fingers are held Okay, yeah, that's not how
Speaker 2: fingers two pieces.
Speaker 1: Oh that's not how to that's that's not how so
Speaker 1: look at how like wait, which hand is that this one? Okay?
Speaker 1: That feels right? My fingers look like no, because like
Speaker 1: this part right here is like really up. Yes, but
Speaker 1: it's not like what your hand looks like. But that's
Speaker 1: like a bubble, you know, like an air bubble. Maybe
Speaker 1: her thumb is there. Oh wait, no it's not.
Speaker 3: No, sooner further on the hand, the hand looks bigger,
Speaker 3: like these hands don't look like they match her.
Speaker 1: Actually, look at that and black is slimming colors shouldn't
Speaker 1: look it looks she's missing a finger in this piece. Well,
Speaker 1: you know famously a I don't know how to do hands,
Speaker 1: but it's getting better at hands. His hand isn't as
Speaker 1: bad as the hands used to be.
Speaker 2: It was always like six fingers or two of the
Speaker 2: fingers were blended together and stuff. But this does look
Speaker 2: like a random dude's it looks like a tattoo artist's
Speaker 2: hand and they put it on her.
Speaker 1: Also, her boots look bigger in the scrubs than the bikini.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't issue. I feel like it should. I feel
Speaker 1: like they should look bigger in the bikini. Then no
Speaker 1: better than a man. I'm no better than a mega Yeah,
Speaker 1: so colle girl.
Speaker 2: On an Instagram account for Emily Sam posted photos of
Speaker 2: her ice fishing, drinking cores lights, and shooting a gun
Speaker 2: at the rifle range, with the captions like, if you
Speaker 2: want a reason to unfollow, christ is king, abortion is murdered,
Speaker 2: and all illegals must be deported.
Speaker 1: Oh that's all the greatest hits right there. I know
Speaker 1: that went viral right, triple platinum. She said. I am
Speaker 1: a girl's girl. I will be hot, I won't talk.
Speaker 1: I'm a biggie or like a man's girl, like I
Speaker 1: ha drinking Miller's light. I know that pH balance is
Speaker 1: off that snow right, yeah? Like, how are you in
Speaker 1: the middle of like a frozen lake and you're wearing
Speaker 1: like a forever twenty one perss? They do it, though
Speaker 1: they do it, They do that. Why will be in
Speaker 1: the snow and a flip flop. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: I saw it in a labba. I swear to you.
Speaker 1: They was in a puffer up top thongs in a bottle.
Speaker 2: I think that's the equivalent of how like black people
Speaker 2: like to stick one leg out of the covers at
Speaker 2: night to keep the body temper regulated.
Speaker 1: That's not a body thing. I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: hear that we do. I know I do it.
Speaker 2: You and you are Mexicanism. Okay, I can't take you.
Speaker 2: I can't take them nowhere. So Sam was studying the
Speaker 2: American mindset because remember he's from India, Like, so this
Speaker 2: is not he's actually really nailing this ship for not
Speaker 2: being from the country. He's never lived in the US.
Speaker 2: And he became a student of the Maga audiology so
Speaker 2: that he could write captions that were pro Christian, pro
Speaker 2: Second Amendment, pro life, anti.
Speaker 1: Abortion, anti woke an and and anti immigration.
Speaker 2: Now, what I love about this is MAGA is such
Speaker 2: an easy study because like I feel like and what
Speaker 2: they do is it's always miracle flag burr, hate the hate,
Speaker 2: the make the libs cry, Like it's like it's such
Speaker 2: a script where nobody's even saying or doing anything different.
Speaker 2: But you know what, this showing up on somebody's homepage
Speaker 2: or they're you know what, I mean, their search page.
Speaker 2: You know they smashing that like button. Oh hell, they
Speaker 2: smashing that, and now they're on her page. And now
Speaker 2: that's how this like, because it works, he said. Sam said,
Speaker 2: every real I posted was getting three million views, five
Speaker 2: million views, ten million views.
Speaker 1: The algorithm loved it. Damn, let me change my caption. Damn.
Speaker 1: You know what, girl, you got a Michael Jackson and
Speaker 1: you hadn't changed my mind avatar.
Speaker 2: I wan't do this ethically, but maybe I could just
Speaker 2: go in the app and like photoshop my photos to
Speaker 2: make me look like a white page where I'm a
Speaker 2: Macha white lady, and then get my money.
Speaker 1: Up over there. I could see that, actually, you look
Speaker 1: like Michael Jackson. Nah, I can feel like I get
Speaker 1: the color right because I'm gon do it in an
Speaker 1: app right, and you don't think the app is gonna
Speaker 1: get it wrong. I'm gonna do manually. Okay, manually, I don't.
Speaker 2: Make sure I'll miss no spots. Listen, we'll work through this.
Speaker 2: But I think this is a good strategy.
Speaker 1: The way she's sitting, it's definitely looking like I also
Speaker 1: peg you right, Yeah, and they like that.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: Within a month, Emily Hart had more than ten thousand
Speaker 2: Instagram followers, many of whom also subscribe to her soft
Speaker 2: core AI generated content on the only fans competitor fan View.
Speaker 1: What the hell is that? The t move only fan
Speaker 1: fan view only fans, no fan view and it's the
Speaker 1: only fan doupe. Yeah, they wrong for that.
Speaker 2: So only Fans requires AI disclosure and creators need to
Speaker 2: authenticate their identity before joining.
Speaker 1: But fan room come as you are.
Speaker 2: Said, we ain't never gonna ask you to pick out
Speaker 2: the stoplights in the photo.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's from an ass, not a be. AI stands
Speaker 1: for anybody he need sin.
Speaker 2: So the profitability of Emily's posts basically they weren't posted
Speaker 2: as AI generated, of course, and Sam says he couldn't
Speaker 2: monetize her account on Instagram itself, of course, but from
Speaker 2: other outlets.
Speaker 1: Sam estimated he was making a few thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 2: He used GROQUEI damn he used it every he destroying
Speaker 2: the planet h as in Memphis. So he was using
Speaker 2: groc too to generate nude photos of Emily and upload
Speaker 2: them to fan rew with fans sending him payments for
Speaker 2: exclusive content and exchanging messages. So he said he was
Speaker 2: making a few thousand a month and in India this this,
Speaker 2: you know, for the wage there that was that was
Speaker 2: a good amount of money. Also, he is using the
Speaker 2: Instagra grand followers to drive traffic to the fan frew,
Speaker 2: which is what a lot of only fans people do.
Speaker 2: They'll use Twitter or they'll use or I call it,
Speaker 2: did Mama call me Twitter? Or they'll use Instagram or
Speaker 2: Snapchat or whatever to drive fans to the content that's
Speaker 2: behind the paywall.
Speaker 1: So he says that he made a few thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: On the account in a few days, though he did
Speaker 2: not enjoy the interactive aspect.
Speaker 1: He lying, he come on, now, I know he was
Speaker 1: from like a bad bitch.
Speaker 2: Was like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, you know it's one of two figure
Speaker 1: some real fashion. He's like you, he said, he said,
Speaker 1: I'm conceded. I got a reason you can show mama
Speaker 1: with that mouth.
Speaker 2: He said, once a guy send him a video with
Speaker 2: Emily's nude on a tablet on a pillow, and he
Speaker 2: was basically recording himself fucking the pillow.
Speaker 1: Wait. It was incredibly weird, but he said, But Sam
Speaker 1: says he sent me a fifty dollars tip.
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, do what you want shifty
Speaker 2: dollars for me to watch you have sex with a
Speaker 2: pillow and an iPad. I feel like it should be
Speaker 2: a lot. I had money, you got a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Come up off that bridge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can we get like at least two hundred because
Speaker 1: I gotta watch it. Yeah, you couldn't mind it. You
Speaker 1: could have done this by yourself because he's trying to
Speaker 1: be in you. You're trying to be a pillow.
Speaker 2: Sam also sold MAGA themed T shirts. One T shirt
Speaker 2: said PTSD, which meant pretty tired of stupid Democrats.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a bardle.
Speaker 2: That's how you know you're not real Maga America because
Speaker 2: they don't come up with nothing cool merch.
Speaker 1: Trash on this side. Yeah, this is some lipstrong PTSD
Speaker 1: break Sam.
Speaker 2: You on, you really study them and you elevated them
Speaker 2: now grocked it de rock. Sam said that with fan
Speaker 2: root and T shirts, he was making more than people
Speaker 2: with professional jobs that like they usually would make. An
Speaker 2: Indian Emily Hart is one of those like AI generated
Speaker 2: hot Girl Maga influencers on social media thanks to young
Speaker 2: tech scammers that Sam is capitalizing off of. Like the
Speaker 2: pro Trump sentiment, the AI influencers are usually white and blonde,
Speaker 2: with jobs as emergency responders, cops, firefighters, or EMTs. They
Speaker 2: also incorporate right wing views in all their content, from
Speaker 2: immigration to epstein to pronouns while posing in American flag
Speaker 2: bikinis or maga hats or both.
Speaker 1: And I didn't like that. Apparently the demo is like
Speaker 1: all like helpers, because that really be the truth, and
Speaker 1: it is, he's not lying.
Speaker 2: Sometimes people get in the healthcare industry because they want power,
Speaker 2: not to help.
Speaker 1: They want to have power over you in your weakest moment.
Speaker 1: It's a real thing. This the nurse to cop pipeline,
Speaker 1: like the asshole of the cop to nurse. That's how
Speaker 1: to go. Jyce. Well that they don't have any skills,
Speaker 1: that's just that's why. But you don't really need skills
Speaker 1: to be a cop. No, you don't. There's no.
Speaker 2: Actually, sometimes if you take the police examine, you're like
Speaker 2: a little too like independent thinking.
Speaker 1: You won't get in. No, they won't.
Speaker 2: Soldiers and associated to soldiers, there's lot of smart soldiers.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like in the sense of like they
Speaker 2: want you to hide mind. So part of the reason
Speaker 2: that these accounts work so well is how few real
Speaker 2: young women are in the MAGA community. Eighteen to twenty
Speaker 2: nine year old women are overwhelmingly liberal. Sam did try
Speaker 2: to create a liberal counterpart for Emily's Instagram, but she
Speaker 2: didn't last long. Democrats could spot the AI and didn't
Speaker 2: engage with the account.
Speaker 3: Smart is this aar Yeah, to ask that question feels
Speaker 3: very Democrat.
Speaker 1: Also, I feel like the playbook of the Republicans is
Speaker 1: so easy.
Speaker 2: They have a few buzzwords that they stick to and
Speaker 2: they don't really deviate if you come over to the
Speaker 2: Democratic side, but you go get into a whole lot
Speaker 2: of jargon that.
Speaker 1: She ain't seen before.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be some intersectionality here, some affordable housing keys,
Speaker 2: some income disparity. There's little hard you can't just come
Speaker 2: over and be like own the Reps, Like, we're not
Speaker 2: gonna love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn.
Speaker 2: So Trump himself fell for it when he reposted the
Speaker 2: fake Swifties for Trump on True Social during the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four campaign. And I remember that he always posting
Speaker 2: a guy though, So I'm even ridicular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, said I love these things. They look like real pictures.
Speaker 2: They gave me as when he posted himself as God
Speaker 2: and he was like, no, that's me as a doctor.
Speaker 1: Jus a doctor here. I'm like, they're you literally praying
Speaker 1: around you in this photo.
Speaker 2: Also, you're not a doctor, You're a domat. So it
Speaker 2: still wouldn't make sense, sir.
Speaker 1: You know he got an android. His whole vibe is
Speaker 1: andrew the pictures out better. He posted from the head. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know his he probably gotta scroll the
Speaker 1: spell a word.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: You know he's got a Dell laptop. He's he don't
Speaker 1: have an Apple at all.
Speaker 2: Not delate to Magaine down. It's a Mega Magadell didn't
Speaker 2: get into Testla and he was like, it's all computer.
Speaker 1: Everything's computer. Ater.
Speaker 2: No, we should put Trump in a way moo police
Speaker 2: because you know they don't know how to use the
Speaker 2: guns in a flood.
Speaker 1: And see if the WAYMO can get around.
Speaker 2: What I said, put him in a way moo because
Speaker 2: the assassins that the shooters don't shoot.
Speaker 1: They hired them shooters. They're not even having it.
Speaker 2: They heard them from Craigslist too, but they don't want
Speaker 2: them to land an these shots they hiring them for
Speaker 2: sympathy every time. It's like, it's are so fucking love
Speaker 2: that the White House Correspondence Dinner had to be an
Speaker 2: excuse for them to let in now scheme, why only
Speaker 2: getting the actors from back page backstage? Yes, page also
Speaker 2: can't be a little bit more desperateless misconnection.
Speaker 1: He would be sending me stepping backstage.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, baby, I haven't yet.
Speaker 1: For your skick.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, I'm good kids, background background,
Speaker 3: I'm okay, but we all.
Speaker 1: Got to start somewhere the Yeah.
Speaker 2: But no, And this makes sense because the approval ratings
Speaker 2: were ship. It's the White House Correspondence Dinner. They set
Speaker 2: that man up. I don't think that was a real shooting,
Speaker 2: and he didn't injure anybody. Everybody was moving too slow
Speaker 2: and too chill for like a shooting. And then immediately
Speaker 2: he does a press conference that night talking about this
Speaker 2: is why we need the White House and like, how
Speaker 2: does that that's how you that's how you promote in
Speaker 2: the ballroom because he wants to use taxpayer dollars for it.
Speaker 2: To remember, his whole campaign about the ballroom was that
Speaker 2: he was getting private donor money. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: a stage shooting happens, and then immediately after he's on
Speaker 2: a podium talking about how we need.
Speaker 1: Pay for the ballroom.
Speaker 2: The judge said, we don't have to, like something about
Speaker 2: unless it's a national security risk, the ballroom don't need
Speaker 2: to be completed. So then happened, and he's like security risk.
Speaker 2: I mean, how do we have a black ass president
Speaker 2: for two terms? And I'm sure there were some like
Speaker 2: attempts on his life that were like obviously covered up,
Speaker 2: but how do you have three public attempts in your
Speaker 2: second term?
Speaker 1: Didn't have any of the first.
Speaker 2: I think he realized like every time this scam was
Speaker 2: kind of working a little bit. He was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: they mad about.
Speaker 1: All the ear thing.
Speaker 2: First of all, you knew it was when they tried
Speaker 2: to get him out of there and he was trying
Speaker 2: to hit a poles.
Speaker 1: He said, get the shot.
Speaker 2: Did you see the angle where you see the photographers
Speaker 2: running over as the shootings happening, so they can make
Speaker 2: sure they get that flick off And then it's like
Speaker 2: a little bit of ketchup coming across his face like
Speaker 2: this from the ear. Yeah, So they had other they
Speaker 2: had other fake magababes. You know they other fake mag whatever,
Speaker 2: So they're multiplying now. Washington Post article flagged the rise
Speaker 2: in of like Jessica Foster, a leggy, blonde Army service
Speaker 2: member who went virus or posting a selfie with Trump
Speaker 2: and putin that looks fake as.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the legs don't match everything else. It's like a.
Speaker 2: BBO four picture, Like they're not even what your legs
Speaker 2: don't match. She's not going where he's going. Where are
Speaker 2: they walking towards? I will say one thing though, they
Speaker 2: did get the wind right, because the wind seems to
Speaker 2: be blown in the same direction her hair and his
Speaker 2: coat tail.
Speaker 1: It's just going straight back since I could have done that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 3: The legs is given a woman who's biracial, though, I
Speaker 3: will say, like it got some shade that's just like Titan. Yes,
Speaker 3: she has tights on, but tightson gives you shape like that,
Speaker 3: like the there's thigh meat there.
Speaker 1: You think they're gonna give hot dog.
Speaker 2: Leg Oh yeah, as someone who's had to don this
Speaker 2: military a form on television, that skirt is way too
Speaker 2: fucking short.
Speaker 1: That she got it from pretty little thing like this ags.
Speaker 1: This is not or ac is rather this is not it?
Speaker 1: Like it would definitely be real close to her kneed.
Speaker 1: That's the fashion of a costume of that, Like, I know,
Speaker 1: I know my kind right, Like why y'all hot pocket
Speaker 1: Finna be out in the military dress? Be for real?
Speaker 2: I'm sure if we even zoomed in on the patches,
Speaker 2: if you could tell that those aren't real, like you know,
Speaker 2: decoration patches. And like she's also been taking photos she
Speaker 2: this Ai thing with Trump and putin her Instagram account
Speaker 2: was clearly fake, but it garnered more than a million
Speaker 2: followers in just over four months. Jessica started promoting feet
Speaker 2: fish and now the account has been taken down. But
Speaker 2: don't worry, Jessica Foster has joined.
Speaker 1: Fan vood you can steal a booha yes Ai.
Speaker 2: Another popular account was Mayflower Mommy thirteen That's so much,
Speaker 2: and it featured brief photos of a brunette woman and
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 3: How Mayflower like Christopher Columbus bitch. Now now they're gone
Speaker 3: too far.
Speaker 1: Also, if you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna say y'all original, y'all belong here, how are you
Speaker 2: gonna site the boat that brought your bitch ass over?
Speaker 1: Okay, but they're like we the first they were like,
Speaker 1: we got shotgun, we got your friends. They said we
Speaker 1: was the.
Speaker 2: Quakers band, right, we were the original colonizers. Therefore they
Speaker 2: say Pocahontas, and the wanted us here.
Speaker 1: They loved us. I asked for us. Yeah. I took
Speaker 1: a tour in Hawaii and on the road to Hannah,
Speaker 1: there was a tour we had.
Speaker 2: It was like a private car, and so this cute
Speaker 2: little white man had a speaker headset on and he
Speaker 2: was just giving us the history and pointing out the
Speaker 2: water fountains and pointing out the trees and all the shit. Right,
Speaker 2: But during it too, he was like trying to get
Speaker 2: like a little history. And some of the history would
Speaker 2: be about the landscape, the volcanoes and things that happened.
Speaker 2: But sometimes he would be like, yes, and the Hawaiian
Speaker 2: natives believed that a god would show up as a white.
Speaker 1: Man on a ship.
Speaker 2: And we were like, hey, the Hawaiian natives, I see
Speaker 2: none of that in Malwana. Yeah, we're gonna have to
Speaker 2: stop you right there. Hey, I'm gonna let you finish,
Speaker 2: but please, I've actually got We did not let him finish,
Speaker 2: Like do you see this black ass car?
Speaker 1: You do please, a lot of us don't give us
Speaker 1: with this, Walt Disney. This was the tour guy. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but it was like a private tour. So we were
Speaker 1: just in like a big suv and he had on
Speaker 1: a little headstd. He was driving us up the road
Speaker 1: to Hannah. And who would play him in a movie? Oh? Lord,
Speaker 1: who would play him in a movie? Oh damn? I
Speaker 1: know who it would be, but I do not know
Speaker 1: his name, and it's no point in trying now when
Speaker 1: maybe like an older lumpier Jack Black. Yeah, girl, that's
Speaker 1: that's not a native to Hawaii. He looked, he was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's Jack Black. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm but like a worst like I think
Speaker 2: Jack Black is a fine looking man. Yes, but I'm
Speaker 2: saying like a I'm talking to build and like like
Speaker 2: an orter, like you know, like an older order.
Speaker 1: Don't do that to my orders what they do to you?
Speaker 2: Take that back and la see, if you want to
Speaker 2: make that joke, you have to pay dollars. You're right,
Speaker 2: I haven't paid my dues to make that joke. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so may flowermmmy thirteen. This account featured brief videos of
Speaker 2: a brunette woman in a car or in her kitchen
Speaker 2: looking flirty with captions like if this American flag emoji
Speaker 2: is your pride flag, I want to be friends.
Speaker 1: Let's mecca. When you said this, I was like, if
Speaker 1: this wore were mad, if this maga was mine, this
Speaker 1: was my.
Speaker 3: Woo.
Speaker 2: I will say, though, that caption is like kind of
Speaker 2: fired because Macca capsules don't be that spicy, like if
Speaker 2: this and then the American flag emoji is.
Speaker 1: Your pride flag like proud mercing. Okay, I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like it, but I'm saying like this is
Speaker 1: better than what they used to be. Coming up with
Speaker 1: the caption is definitely catchy for sure. Yeah, so r
Speaker 1: I p Emily Hart.
Speaker 2: In February, Emily's account was officially banned after Instagram flagged
Speaker 2: it for fraudulent activity, though her Facebook account is still active.
Speaker 2: Of course, her Facebook account is still active. Facebook can
Speaker 2: stop doing no crimes, so Sam says even if her
Speaker 2: account had not been banned, he probably would have stopped
Speaker 2: posting anyway.
Speaker 1: He has no regrets, but he says that he needs
Speaker 1: to focus more on his studies. Yeah, what happens to him?
Speaker 1: Bones you was trying to cut on He totally misupplied
Speaker 1: he's I feel like he has plenty of money.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, he said, if he were still in the
Speaker 2: AI slop Grifter game. He believes that pro Nazi pro
Speaker 2: hitler content has been getting especially high engagement on platforms
Speaker 2: like Real and AI Hot Girl Nazi influencers would do
Speaker 2: huge numbers now he made projections.
Speaker 1: All of this sounds like that's how you know you
Speaker 1: can't connect.
Speaker 2: With humanity when y'all are literally over here jerking it
Speaker 2: to some pixels, to some zeros and some ones.
Speaker 1: Like, well, y'all you know how they do. But see
Speaker 1: they be one of the like, well, the normal freakies.
Speaker 2: I'm not shipping you're young, but the normal freakies want
Speaker 2: to engage with a real person because they're trying to like,
Speaker 2: you know, hold up today's newspaper, baby and tell me
Speaker 2: you miss my smile, you know, like they were they
Speaker 2: using they medicaid, they're using the their the pension to
Speaker 2: pay for this, and they're like, look at that.
Speaker 1: She looks like you know what I mean, Yeah, weird shit.
Speaker 1: If I was just twenty years younger, and.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm gonna say, I like this, the scam
Speaker 2: sam for you because anytime we're drifting the fascist like period.
Speaker 2: Take their money, take more of it. Honestly, I don't
Speaker 2: know why Instagram banded. I want them to be draining
Speaker 2: their resources so they can't you by us.
Speaker 1: But somehow they keep getting money like it never it
Speaker 1: never so strong, you know. Yeah thatstment, Yes, it's inmbeztlementment.
Speaker 1: It's the PPP loans. They still got that PPP money
Speaker 1: left over. Yeah, yeah, like they really only sent like
Speaker 1: the rappers to jail for the pp Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: like so many people in Atlanta. But hey, have you
Speaker 1: tried Missouri?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, no, they don't got to keep her PPP
Speaker 2: like look at her cloy cars. Got to keep her PPP.
Speaker 2: PPP for the cloud, guess for companies?
Speaker 1: What companies? Because she had to cube the companies afloat
Speaker 1: like you know, she got good American. She did it
Speaker 1: because the Emma Grady girl. Weren't they together?
Speaker 2: All I know is that KMK, I mean, Chloe K
Speaker 2: has some PPP lows and they were forgiven.
Speaker 1: Forget She's not the only one. Listen.
Speaker 2: I wake up many days a week and my only
Speaker 2: regret in life is that I didn't get a PPP loan.
Speaker 1: I actually I am glad you did, because they would
Speaker 1: hold your black ass away. I don't know. I would
Speaker 1: to use grock to figure out how to get out
Speaker 1: of that. No marine, you would have. You would have
Speaker 1: took an edible and been like, y'all they should have
Speaker 1: never gave me no money. I'm like, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: The catcher would be if this is your pride flag
Speaker 2: and money emoji they did with me, Yeah, no, Maria,
Speaker 2: whole social media we used to give shoe in court.
Speaker 2: They'd be like, here we got you flexed. You're rolling
Speaker 2: around in money right here and it says p P
Speaker 2: P bitches.
Speaker 1: And then we look at your search history and it's
Speaker 1: like groc how to do ppe fraud? I would do.
Speaker 2: I would search for that in invisible b I can't
Speaker 2: see you invisible now.
Speaker 1: She would have been in a pile of money, like
Speaker 1: had the money on the course at that me sneezing into.
Speaker 2: You'll be like there will be signs hashtag wait till
Speaker 2: I start my mega account. I'm not gonna be able
Speaker 2: tell me nothing, gonna get a pepp, get.
Speaker 1: Me a nurses.
Speaker 2: I feel like we could really put some sauce on it. Guys,
Speaker 2: we promise we only do it for a month. We
Speaker 2: want to get and it's only this sake. It's just
Speaker 2: a grift of grifters. We're just trying to rob a hood,
Speaker 2: rubbing it out hood. I don't know, I try to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, see what he was going. I appreciate we
Speaker 1: support you.
Speaker 2: Some people catch it at a moment. Well, thank you
Speaker 2: guys so much for being here today. It's always a
Speaker 2: treat to see your faces. We got to do a
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Speaker 2: you're great on it. I can't wait to listen to
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