Speaker 1: Carolam. She's a queen of talking. He was sown your man.
Speaker 1: She's on the yes side, she got the scoop on
Speaker 1: the on side. No one can win quiet like Carola, Carola.
Speaker 1: No one can win quiet like Caralami. Carola. Hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby.
Speaker 1: I know music, I know people, and I know the
Speaker 1: questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper
Speaker 1: heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there
Speaker 1: could be adult content. So this week, I'm having a
Speaker 1: surprise guest that was not planned. Tony Brown was planned
Speaker 1: for this episode, but I'm pushing him back to next
Speaker 1: this week because I have to take the time to
Speaker 1: interview my father. We're on vacation the Bahamas last week
Speaker 1: and he got bit in the face by a shark.
Speaker 1: A shark bit my dad in the face. I mean,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Who on this earth has survived
Speaker 1: a shark bite? And let alone survived a shark bite
Speaker 1: to the face. So he's fine, he's doing great, He's
Speaker 1: going to heal up just perfectly, have some cool scars.
Speaker 1: But I had to get the story out there because
Speaker 1: it's so incredible. And not only is the story so incredible,
Speaker 1: my dad is amazing. He's an incredible husband, he's an
Speaker 1: incredible father, he's an incredible businessman. He's a dentist, and
Speaker 1: he's built an institute, a dental institute, and he has
Speaker 1: so much wisdom to share. And just top it off
Speaker 1: with the story of the shark bite and how he
Speaker 1: handled that and how he processed all that. So here's
Speaker 1: my dad's Steve cut birth. Y'all get excited. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I am here. How's it all look? Mom? What are
Speaker 1: you looking? Good? Great? I I'm here with my dad,
Speaker 1: Steve cut b who is also a shark bite survivor,
Speaker 1: which we we think you might be the only one
Speaker 1: who survived a shark bite to the face. We've looked
Speaker 1: it up. We haven't found anyone else, right, I'm not
Speaker 1: in on that. I don't know. It's all fun games
Speaker 1: now because you're fine for a while. This is very scary.
Speaker 1: I could see what people would think that was interesting.
Speaker 1: So we want to get all into the shark bite.
Speaker 1: But before I did, I want to start at the
Speaker 1: beginning of your life. Kind of gives someone who's listening
Speaker 1: a little bit of an idea of who you are.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start with some questions. Tell me that
Speaker 1: don't look at my questions. Tell me the first thing
Speaker 1: that comes to your mind when I tell you ask
Speaker 1: you a question, don't you can't think about it? Shark
Speaker 1: shark bride right now, it's a shark bite, shark bite death.
Speaker 1: Never think about that. Never, it's not your radar. Not
Speaker 1: worried about it. Great. Do you think there's something that
Speaker 1: happens after this life? I do. I think you go
Speaker 1: to a wonderful place after you die. And I think
Speaker 1: that the people have always thought that people are worried
Speaker 1: about death or and don't think you go to a
Speaker 1: wonderful place after you die, and don't think that there's
Speaker 1: something out there bigger than all of us. Are going
Speaker 1: to have a hard time getting through life because you
Speaker 1: can't prove it one way or the other. But I
Speaker 1: think you lead a much better life if you just
Speaker 1: decide that's what happens. So you can have relationships with
Speaker 1: your spouse, with children, with I mean your children, your grandchildren,
Speaker 1: your friends. And I can't think of anything worse than
Speaker 1: thinking there wasn't something big that connects us and that
Speaker 1: you go to a wonderful place when you die. I
Speaker 1: just choose to believe that. Okay, food, shrimp, Uncle Dann's barbecue,
Speaker 1: elk and kiss the door, chicken fehita. Case it did,
Speaker 1: that's the restaurant. These are Waco restaurants. Funny, We've eaten
Speaker 1: some of the finest restaurants in the world. But if
Speaker 1: I had to pick last meal, it would probably be
Speaker 1: Uncle Dan's. I've gotten the same thing for thirty four years.
Speaker 1: A lean slice plate, yellowtato salad, baked beans, two pieces
Speaker 1: of wheat bread, mild sauce, two doubled eggs, sweet tea
Speaker 1: this half tea and half water with lemon, And it's
Speaker 1: just so. Would you say you're a creature of habit.
Speaker 1: If I find something I like, I don't that I
Speaker 1: really like. As in the case of your mother, I
Speaker 1: don't look for something else. I'm happy. So when you
Speaker 1: laid eyes, Mom, you knew. Well it was kind of
Speaker 1: a funny story because I was in college my sophomore year,
Speaker 1: taking uh organic chemistry in the summer in the summer,
Speaker 1: and my roommate at the time was not my regular roommate.
Speaker 1: He was a fifth year senior that was in graduate school,
Speaker 1: but he was just there for the summer because my
Speaker 1: roommate had gone home. So we were in the same fraternity.
Speaker 1: So we were sharing an apartment and he said, we
Speaker 1: gotta get you out of here. Your brain is gonna explode.
Speaker 1: And I said, okay, I'll have a break between the
Speaker 1: two summer semesters and we'll go do something. He said super.
Speaker 1: So he was dating this girl and he was gonna
Speaker 1: get me a blind date and we were gonna go
Speaker 1: water skiing with a guy that was a friend of
Speaker 1: his in Waco that had a boat on Lake Waco.
Speaker 1: So the day comes and we go out there, get
Speaker 1: out of the car and there is this girl walking
Speaker 1: the boat dock in a green bikini. And I said
Speaker 1: to the guy, I'm going to marry that girl. He said,
Speaker 1: you don't even know her and she's my day. Are
Speaker 1: you engaged And he said, well no, and I said
Speaker 1: good luck. And that was it. Something about it never
Speaker 1: looked back. So when you find something you like, you
Speaker 1: stick with it. That's it. I'm done. I like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: uh fun outdoor? Um. I like sports. I love hard
Speaker 1: mountain back trails. I love to play football. I'm really
Speaker 1: more of a player than a watcher. I love to
Speaker 1: play golf. We've never been to Las Vegas, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if I can play golf without betting a
Speaker 1: little bit my perfect golf round as you could win
Speaker 1: or lose a hundred dollars and uh what else. I
Speaker 1: love spear fishing, even though I'll be back in there
Speaker 1: to the next thing. It is kind of interesting because
Speaker 1: I don't hunt, you know, I have If I find
Speaker 1: a scorpion in the house or a cricket, I'll catch
Speaker 1: it and take it outside. But spear fishing is so
Speaker 1: fascinating because it's so difficult. Number One, you've got a
Speaker 1: just a dive mask and a snorkel and fins. You're
Speaker 1: holding your breath. This this the spirit is not a
Speaker 1: spear gun. It's a Hawaiian sling with a wooden shooter
Speaker 1: and uh surgical tubing and a little cup that the
Speaker 1: spear goes through. And so you've got to dive down
Speaker 1: thirty find a fish. It's got the fish. You've got
Speaker 1: every advantage and we only eat Willy spirit what we eat,
Speaker 1: and then spear the fish, then corral the fish and
Speaker 1: then go to the top. And you've got the extra
Speaker 1: little color of sharks. Well, you took that to a
Speaker 1: whole new level this trip with a shark bright to
Speaker 1: the face. Which we're going to get all into that
Speaker 1: in a little bit, but that's quite the taking it
Speaker 1: to the max. Well, it wasn't intended what you're holding
Speaker 1: your mask right now that you're wearing with a shark attacking,
Speaker 1: which I think this mass saved your face. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure that's right. Let's just hold this up. This mass
Speaker 1: saved dad's face. There's a big old slice near the nose,
Speaker 1: which here it lat's see it bit me. We want
Speaker 1: to get into that. Now, give us a little just
Speaker 1: a little bit, don't go to full detail. We'll see.
Speaker 1: This has been laying on the ocean floor since Saturday.
Speaker 1: In the day's Thursday, and Will my son in lawn Marcus,
Speaker 1: the son of the guide, went back just for fun
Speaker 1: to see if they could find it. So they actually
Speaker 1: found the spear shaft that had the fish on it,
Speaker 1: and they found this mask on the bottom of the
Speaker 1: ocean down and they found a sixty fit grouper which
Speaker 1: they shop so you can see how the shark's teeth
Speaker 1: lacerated the strap. Then I pulled it against my white shirt.
Speaker 1: Lacerated the nose area. This is where it got my lip,
Speaker 1: and then it's got a hole here in the nose
Speaker 1: where it got my nose. And then it's got you
Speaker 1: can't see that, but it's got teeth marks on the
Speaker 1: top and the bottom of the mask. So in my mind,
Speaker 1: the reason that it just bit and didn't tear was
Speaker 1: the teeth hit that plastic around the mask and it
Speaker 1: felt foreign, and so it hard and it released rather
Speaker 1: than completing the bite. And so this mouse saved your life,
Speaker 1: save your face at least, well I mean it. It
Speaker 1: is allowed me to have that edgy look rather than
Speaker 1: stranger look. So thank goodness with that mass. Okay, celebrity,
Speaker 1: celebrity Yeah, um gosh, that's a hard one. First day.
Speaker 1: It comes to mind, James Bond, Matt Damon. You lived
Speaker 1: out your venture story, you lived out your venture movie.
Speaker 1: I did well. You know, Matt Damon is an interesting story.
Speaker 1: What is it? You know? We were staying at the
Speaker 1: Fourth Seasons Hotel in Austin. It was late one night.
Speaker 1: I can't remember why we were there, and I was
Speaker 1: about to get on the elevator to go up probably
Speaker 1: and here comes this dude, walking in with a toboggan
Speaker 1: and just a green T shirt and green pants and
Speaker 1: some like combat boots on. And I said, uh, I
Speaker 1: said what do what? I said, reached my hand out
Speaker 1: and said Steve Cutberth And he said name, and I said,
Speaker 1: I know who you are. I said, what are you?
Speaker 1: What are you doing in Austin. He said, well, we're
Speaker 1: filming True Grit. Said this may be one of the
Speaker 1: best days of your life because my daughter at the
Speaker 1: time you were stealing angels. And I said, my daughter
Speaker 1: sings in a band with John Wayne's granddaughter and Reda
Speaker 1: Lynn's granddaughter. So how about that they sing a song
Speaker 1: or write a song as the theme song for True Grit.
Speaker 1: And he said that's a great idea. Why didn't happen? Well,
Speaker 1: I gave him my card and he said, I'll call you.
Speaker 1: He never called, never called. We're waiting for your phone call.
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess one way deal. Yeah, I'm annoyed
Speaker 1: at that. Really a nice guy ticket, Yeah he is.
Speaker 1: He's as nice a guy as he seems like he is.
Speaker 1: So we were just besties for about five seconds. We'll
Speaker 1: probably about a man in it riding up the elevator
Speaker 1: short lived best friendship. Okay, what do you find annoying?
Speaker 1: What do you find annoying? Excessive talk, meaningless talk, just chatter.
Speaker 1: These people just narrating, filling the air the most of
Speaker 1: the world you find annoying. No, I like a good conversation.
Speaker 1: I love a good story, but I don't like just
Speaker 1: chatter to fill the air. Okay, you want to talk
Speaker 1: about something in particular, Yeah, okay, all right, and then
Speaker 1: when you finished, be like a pinpoint and you just
Speaker 1: stop talking. What do you fear Sharon getting mad at
Speaker 1: she's really leaving me? See if she left me, I've
Speaker 1: always said, if she ever threw me out, I just
Speaker 1: have a little tent in the front yard cooking out there,
Speaker 1: and it'd be raining and cold, and you and Katherine say, oh,
Speaker 1: just giving See I've given you this. This may be
Speaker 1: a treacherous stark already. I've sent you this hook several times,
Speaker 1: and maybe somebody. I think somebody wrote this song give
Speaker 1: me one more last chance, a little shot, one more
Speaker 1: last chance? Is that a song? I'm sure that's what
Speaker 1: I say to Mom all the time. I say, just
Speaker 1: give me one more. Mom left you, you'd be tasted.
Speaker 1: She's a good hearted woman gets occasionally she'll try to
Speaker 1: get that stern like but it didn't last. Why would
Speaker 1: she need to be stirring with you just because I'm
Speaker 1: bad sometimes not bad bad, but just I'm good, but
Speaker 1: I'm just push your limit a little, a straight not
Speaker 1: I would never do anything bad, but just you're a
Speaker 1: little rough around the edges. Well there you go. Hey,
Speaker 1: they got the shark right to prove it right. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you grew up on a ranch in Brownwood, Texas
Speaker 1: and you always talk about code of the West and
Speaker 1: how that shaped your values and moral system. Tell me
Speaker 1: why that has impacted and what that means to you. Well,
Speaker 1: most of my family, my dad was a medical doctor,
Speaker 1: but most of my family were ranchers and farmers, and
Speaker 1: they were just very direct. You know, my my granddad.
Speaker 1: You say, a deal's deal, and paper has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with it. You know, if you say you're going
Speaker 1: to do it, you're gonna do it. And I think
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good way to live your life. Um No,
Speaker 1: I've growing up in Brownwood. It was the football capital
Speaker 1: of the world. Sports have played a huge party, talked
Speaker 1: about that. Gosh, well, I coached all y'all's teams, and
Speaker 1: then it's funny with Caroline and Katherine. The first game
Speaker 1: of soccer I ever saw was the first game I
Speaker 1: coached when Katherine was about seven. But all ball games
Speaker 1: are about the same. You're trying to get the ball
Speaker 1: into this scoring area down here and keep the other
Speaker 1: team from getting it into this scoring area down here.
Speaker 1: So why can all of life be defined by coat
Speaker 1: of the Western's sports? Okay, um, well it's it's try.
Speaker 1: You know, that's my favorite phrase, just try. Let's just try.
Speaker 1: Too many people, you know, get into some of as
Speaker 1: hard they just quit. And when I was coaching your
Speaker 1: team's I remember when your team was playing. You were
Speaker 1: a fourth grade team and you are playing a fifth
Speaker 1: grade team. And we didn't have a single person on
Speaker 1: the team on our fourth grade team because we were
Speaker 1: playing in standard baskets that could get the ball to
Speaker 1: the rim. And so we had what we called the
Speaker 1: secret plan. I won't go into that, but our matto
Speaker 1: was we had a plan to keep the other team
Speaker 1: from scoring twenty points because we knew we couldn't score
Speaker 1: because we couldn't get it to the hoops. So the
Speaker 1: plan was to keep them from scoring. Yeah, because they've
Speaker 1: beaten these fourth grade teams six seed and nothing. And
Speaker 1: I said, no team of mine is going to be
Speaker 1: beating six ft and nothing. So our mato was, let's
Speaker 1: just try and execute plans. So this coach Gordon would
Speaker 1: and he's like a world renowned coach from nings coach
Speaker 1: of all time. He won more state championships, more games,
Speaker 1: and that was back in the day, and he really impacted. Yet,
Speaker 1: oh man, they only took one team to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Now they take half the district, but then they only
Speaker 1: took one. And he never talked about the assets of
Speaker 1: the other team. If there was a big guy on
Speaker 1: the other team, if there was a fast gut on
Speaker 1: the other team, he didn't care what they did. He
Speaker 1: executed our plan, and he taught me systems and so
Speaker 1: I and that's transferred into your dentistry. Has Um. I'd
Speaker 1: written this article one time for k Texas Coach Magazine
Speaker 1: that coach Wood had asked me to write because we
Speaker 1: were both on the board of the Texas High School
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame and he was getting older and
Speaker 1: he said, Steve, I want you to write a thirty
Speaker 1: year retrospective on the value of high school football. And
Speaker 1: I wrote that article for Texas Coach Magazine, just for
Speaker 1: Coach Woods, not really thinking how all that transferred to
Speaker 1: my later life. And after I got through, I said
Speaker 1: to my staff, if y'all want to know why we
Speaker 1: run our practice the way we do, read this article
Speaker 1: and it was just the you know, his his system,
Speaker 1: and what I've tried to do in my dental practice
Speaker 1: and other things is just uh kind of what he did,
Speaker 1: which was fundamentals. He always got the fundamentals right. You
Speaker 1: never lost a game because somebody jo jumped off side
Speaker 1: or got a uh what do you call it, personal
Speaker 1: foul penalty or something that was stupid. You know you
Speaker 1: and in a real type game that could make the difference.
Speaker 1: So you just play like a practice fundamentals execute. So
Speaker 1: I know the other thing, the play like you practice
Speaker 1: is really a huge thing, and we use that on
Speaker 1: all of your teams, which always won the championship. When
Speaker 1: somebody standing in the free throw about shoot a free throw,
Speaker 1: you cannot say I've got to make that free throw.
Speaker 1: If you do, you'll miss it. The only thought that
Speaker 1: ought to be in your mind is shoot like you practice,
Speaker 1: and practice. I dribble the ball three times, hold it
Speaker 1: right here, take a deep breath and shoot. And if
Speaker 1: you've got that that mentality, you always want to have
Speaker 1: the ball in your hands at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: and you if you shoot the bast shoot the ball.
Speaker 1: Say you're taking a three point point shot to win
Speaker 1: the game and you miss. People that have never been
Speaker 1: in that situation, you're gonna go, oh, she missed. But
Speaker 1: anybody that's been in that situation is going to be
Speaker 1: looking to see if you shot like you practice and
Speaker 1: understand that from three point range, you're probably gonna only
Speaker 1: get a hit about one out of three anyway. So
Speaker 1: you didn't choke, You just missed, and you had the
Speaker 1: courage to have the ball in your hands at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. So you've never been scared to
Speaker 1: have pressure on you. Well, I've been able because of
Speaker 1: what I learned back then and other parts of football
Speaker 1: has transferred into your dentistry practice. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: It's a mind thing. You know, if you can't get
Speaker 1: your mind in the right place, you could be the
Speaker 1: greatest athlete or the greatest at doing what but whatever
Speaker 1: it is. But if you if you don't have your
Speaker 1: mind set, then I think you're not ever gonna be
Speaker 1: very successful if you're worried about failure. So how's that
Speaker 1: transferred into dentistry? Because you've gone on to become a
Speaker 1: world around dentist. You you speak all over the world.
Speaker 1: You have a dental institute called Cards Center for a
Speaker 1: Senecal Story Dentistry. Yeah, you've even done some country music Tetheacher,
Speaker 1: Bobby Bones and Amy Brown on the Bobby Bone Show.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've done a lot of cool dentistry. You've
Speaker 1: really done a lot in dentistry. So how has that
Speaker 1: motto of the Code of the West play like you
Speaker 1: practice transferred into your dental practice in your lifestyle? Well,
Speaker 1: I only think about the things I can control in
Speaker 1: my whole life. I don't think about things I can't control.
Speaker 1: And island plan, we'll talk about that in a minute.
Speaker 1: I'll forget who you remember. So from the get go,
Speaker 1: I said I want to be the finest restorative dentists
Speaker 1: that's ever lived. Restorative dentistry is veneers and crowns and
Speaker 1: bridges and implants and things like that. Well, you you
Speaker 1: don't have to be that smart, because anybody that knows
Speaker 1: you knows I'm not that smart. I'm very uh what's
Speaker 1: the word perseverance. I'll stay with it. And you don't
Speaker 1: just wake up one day and say I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: really good at something. You've got to be trained. And
Speaker 1: so I They've always told you and any girls on
Speaker 1: my team or our teams that if you want to
Speaker 1: be the best at something, first you have to identify
Speaker 1: those people that are the very best to get to them.
Speaker 1: And so I got to those people. One was in Switzerland, Dallas,
Speaker 1: New York, you know wherever they were. I just got
Speaker 1: the plane and went. You just called them up when
Speaker 1: we didn't have any money. You've always said that people
Speaker 1: are so afraid to call the top dogs, and you
Speaker 1: never have been And tell them I don't want you
Speaker 1: to spoon feed me. I don't want to bother you
Speaker 1: take any of your time, but I just like to
Speaker 1: come see what you do. And then once I get there,
Speaker 1: I say, how did you learn? What you learned? And
Speaker 1: they're they're glad to tell you. Isn't that amazing? Think
Speaker 1: they're happy to tell you. People think that it's like
Speaker 1: the homecoming queen or something that they're untouchable. But well,
Speaker 1: when I went to see that guy in but I
Speaker 1: blame that does can er treatment. None of us have cancer.
Speaker 1: By the way. That was Germany, right, Germany. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: this guy had invented this new cancer treatment that and
Speaker 1: I went over to seeing and he said, now, what
Speaker 1: type of doctor or you? And I said, well, I
Speaker 1: haven't dentist. He said, why are you here? I said,
Speaker 1: I just had to know. I said, don't. Don't medical
Speaker 1: people come over and see you from the United States
Speaker 1: all the time, And he said, no, you're the first one.
Speaker 1: So I think people just they just yeah, the homecoming queen.
Speaker 1: Thanks to homecoming Queen's already got a date, but probably
Speaker 1: nobody called her because they didn't they thought you already
Speaker 1: had a day. Yeah, so you're just curious and you're
Speaker 1: not afraid to ask. Well, it is. It's a funny
Speaker 1: thing because so many people, that's the older people are going,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the times were in right now. And
Speaker 1: if I hear one more time, I worry for my grandchildren.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna throw up. We're living in the
Speaker 1: best possible times. You can get on a plane right
Speaker 1: now and go anywhere. And I think that by traveling
Speaker 1: two different interesting places around the world, Uh, you see
Speaker 1: that there's no perfect spot, and we're living in the
Speaker 1: spot that everybody wants to go to. The United States
Speaker 1: is where everybody wants to go, That's where they want
Speaker 1: to live. And I've got a dental assistant that it's
Speaker 1: from Mexico and she is the most just one of
Speaker 1: the most pleasant people in the world. And I've asked her, Luisa,
Speaker 1: what what's the big deal about the United States? And she,
Speaker 1: without blinking and eye she says, opportunity. But they're not
Speaker 1: going to give it to you. You go for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta work for it. But you know, what do
Speaker 1: you want? You got opportunity. Anyway, back to the dental thing,
Speaker 1: I never thought about productivity or money or things like that.
Speaker 1: I want to have enough money that your mom, Sharon,
Speaker 1: and I could buy a house that she wouldn't be
Speaker 1: embarrassed to bring her friends. That was my goal. I said,
Speaker 1: I'd just like to have a decent house that Sharon
Speaker 1: would not be embarrassed to bring her friends. And so
Speaker 1: I never thought about anything else. And I want to
Speaker 1: be the best at this that's ever been. And then
Speaker 1: like Muhammad Ali, he claimed he was the greatest even
Speaker 1: before he was well, I didn't necessarily want to claim
Speaker 1: I was greatest. I just wanted technically to know I
Speaker 1: was the greatest because it was in my mind the best,
Speaker 1: because I would have a hard time talking to people
Speaker 1: about their options if I didn't think I knew everything
Speaker 1: that could be done to fix it and was using
Speaker 1: the best in the world. And this was an interesting
Speaker 1: time when I first started, because interest rates were fourteen
Speaker 1: percent and went up to and nobody wanted to do
Speaker 1: this route of dentistry that you were h ms to
Speaker 1: just come in managed care. And managed care means you
Speaker 1: sign up to a program, they tell you what you
Speaker 1: can do, they tell you what you can charge, and
Speaker 1: so it's a prescription for mediocrity. There's a place for it,
Speaker 1: but you can't do the very best of anything in
Speaker 1: that mediocre media open situation. It's like communism are socialized,
Speaker 1: everything is the same. It'd be like every restaurant in
Speaker 1: the world at the charge the very same thing and
Speaker 1: you know, have the same product. And with managed care
Speaker 1: and medicaid, it's a lot of people don't notice. Like
Speaker 1: the this story about buying watermelons for a dollar, I
Speaker 1: mean buying watermelons for two dollars and sell them for
Speaker 1: a dollar and try to make up the cost differential
Speaker 1: involue you can't do it. So I was never cut
Speaker 1: out for that. So we've never done managed care or
Speaker 1: medicare and medicaid any of at not that I don't
Speaker 1: think there's a place for it, but everything everyone told
Speaker 1: you you couldn't make it doing the way you did it.
Speaker 1: They said you're gonna go broke if you don't. I
Speaker 1: was about twenty seven when it came in and this
Speaker 1: guy gave a seminar to our dental society and said,
Speaker 1: if if y'all don't sign up, then you're gonna go broke.
Speaker 1: You're gonna want to get on and they're not gonna
Speaker 1: let you on. And I said, it's cruel, and it's
Speaker 1: turned out great for you, to hell with it. We'll
Speaker 1: go somewhere else. Somebody's gonna want what I do and
Speaker 1: what exactly do you do? Quickly? And I do. My
Speaker 1: training is in complex restorative dentistry, but it didn't start
Speaker 1: like that. When I started, I was doing dental hygiene everything,
Speaker 1: and we see all kinds of people. But my training
Speaker 1: is in complicated things like porcelambineers, missing front teeth, pull
Speaker 1: myth reconstructions, implants and every so every day it's bobs
Speaker 1: from just dark hurt in two. I see one patient
Speaker 1: every morning from eight in the morning until one or
Speaker 1: two or three or four in the Absolutity satellite. We'll
Speaker 1: take a little break at lunch. And they've got ivy sedation,
Speaker 1: so they've got a verse in denverroll which are very safe.
Speaker 1: Gregs just takes the edge off and uh, we're doing complex,
Speaker 1: something complicated every morning. Then we do easy things in
Speaker 1: the afternoon, say some when we see people's kids. I
Speaker 1: like that it is complicated cases or specialty. Okay, you
Speaker 1: lost a brother at thirty six, How did that affect
Speaker 1: your life? Well, it's it's uh, you know, he and
Speaker 1: over the same size, the same high, same way, we
Speaker 1: both had been, had loved athletics, um and he was
Speaker 1: just playing tennis one day and at thirty six and
Speaker 1: dropped dead of a rhythmic and we I think my
Speaker 1: family kind of marked time by his death. And from
Speaker 1: then on I just thought, you can't anticipate it. You
Speaker 1: don't want to be stupid, but you sure don't want
Speaker 1: to go through your life playing it completely safe. And
Speaker 1: because he was in perfect health as far as he
Speaker 1: knew it just had a lot of times a good
Speaker 1: athlete or good athletes die over rhythms, but you know
Speaker 1: they're not playing it safe. Is kind of gone to
Speaker 1: extremes because Sharon and I have gone the places like
Speaker 1: out of Mongolia, which is three days from nowhere, with
Speaker 1: a guide and a cook and an old Russian. Here
Speaker 1: come these Mongolians riding up on horses with nineteen fifties
Speaker 1: rifles across their back. And he and I looked at
Speaker 1: each other and said this could be interesting. But after
Speaker 1: that true for friends, said Steve, you've taken this too far,
Speaker 1: too far, but we've had we've had a good time.
Speaker 1: So basically though, with the passing of your brother, that
Speaker 1: helped you to be a little fearless, oh you know again,
Speaker 1: not stupid. I don't want to take chances with people
Speaker 1: like you're not gonna see me riding down the road
Speaker 1: on a motorcycle with sharing on the back, because that's
Speaker 1: I like things that I've got a little control over,
Speaker 1: you know, if the little old lady pulls out in
Speaker 1: front of you. But for myself, you know I do
Speaker 1: hard mountain bike riding, and you know how it is.
Speaker 1: When we first went to Waco. I was still playing
Speaker 1: uh City League football for the first ten years, and
Speaker 1: you and Katherine would go to those games and asked
Speaker 1: you about one night I went home my face was
Speaker 1: all blooding my hands roll and you're Catherine One said, Dad,
Speaker 1: You've got to grow up. I like I like things
Speaker 1: with a little edge, not stupid, but with a little edge. Okay,
Speaker 1: so now we want to get to the shark bite. Okay,
Speaker 1: tell me briefly, don't go in too much, dufl Tell
Speaker 1: me about how long you've been coming to this island,
Speaker 1: what your routine is with spear fishing, and why this
Speaker 1: one day was different and the shark attacked you. Okay,
Speaker 1: we've been coming to this island thirty years, briefly going
Speaker 1: out with the same guy a thirty years. He was
Speaker 1: thirty two, I think when we started our thirty seven
Speaker 1: and now he's sixty seven. And we've gone with his son,
Speaker 1: David uh and we're with his his other son Marcus,
Speaker 1: and so we've got a protocol, which Sharon said, because
Speaker 1: they're used to really not be as many sharks over
Speaker 1: here back in the day, you'd see one ever now
Speaker 1: and then, because they used to shark fishing was a
Speaker 1: thing way back then and they quit doing that. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the warm water, we've talked it,
Speaker 1: but back then you'd see a shark and if you
Speaker 1: were here for a week, maybe two or three times. Now,
Speaker 1: whenever you get into spirit, you pretty much know every
Speaker 1: time a shark is gonna come. And we're not afraid
Speaker 1: of them, but we're respectful. So the protocol with Sharon
Speaker 1: and Lincoln set up was after you've speared two or
Speaker 1: three fish into place with these Hawaiian slings, you moved
Speaker 1: to another spot because sharks are gonna come in and
Speaker 1: bloods in the water, and anytime you see a shark,
Speaker 1: you you go to a different spot. Obviously on every
Speaker 1: time we're not and sharks do not want to bite people.
Speaker 1: If you're just snorkeling in the water, you don't have
Speaker 1: in it's clear water like the cribbon, you don't have
Speaker 1: a thing to worry about. We've been um Wheel has
Speaker 1: been back spear fishing every day with the guides since
Speaker 1: I had this and eat you and he yes, my
Speaker 1: son in law Will powers Uh and he and Katherine
Speaker 1: live in Austin, and of course Caroline and Michael Hobby
Speaker 1: a thousand horses. You Yes, my favorite band live in Nashville. Um.
Speaker 1: And Will's in the gas compliance business magazine magazine, so
Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing. So what was I talking about?
Speaker 1: We're talking about don't they don't want you. But if
Speaker 1: you're spearing and you've got a fish that's been spared,
Speaker 1: wake up because that's shark is only doing its job,
Speaker 1: which is keeping the ocean clean by eating dead and
Speaker 1: injured fish. And this shark was no different. He was
Speaker 1: just doing his job. And it has to be a
Speaker 1: pattern to be a perfect storm. So here's what we
Speaker 1: do when we go sparing. Were generally in probably twenty
Speaker 1: to thirty of water. That's a that's a free dive depth.
Speaker 1: And so we get in and we stay together. Usually
Speaker 1: there's there's always at least two of us and sometimes three,
Speaker 1: and we stay together, and you know, then you'll go
Speaker 1: dive right there. In this case, Will and Tyrone, who
Speaker 1: is Lincoln, our guide's nephew, and I were together and
Speaker 1: there was fish here and a fish here, and I
Speaker 1: went after this fish and they went after this big
Speaker 1: hog fish. And so Tyrone went down and speared that fish,
Speaker 1: and he and Will were together and as they were
Speaker 1: coming to the surface, this big five six ft shark
Speaker 1: comes in and follows them all the way to the boat.
Speaker 1: And they we go directly to the boat, always with
Speaker 1: a fish and put it in the boat, so we
Speaker 1: don't ever drag him behind us. But this shark came
Speaker 1: to the boat and actually knocked the Willie had his
Speaker 1: go pro on his shooter, which is the wooden handle,
Speaker 1: and it actually knocked the shooter out of his hands.
Speaker 1: So this shark was in feeding frenzy, prehistoric dinostaur attack mode.
Speaker 1: It was. It wanted the fish and they call it hot.
Speaker 1: That fish. That shark was hot, and we don't mean sexy, no,
Speaker 1: not like you and wom And this fish was after
Speaker 1: the fish. This shark wanted blood and the fish. It was.
Speaker 1: It was dinosaur mode. Dinner bell had been the inner
Speaker 1: bell had been run and so Ladi da, I'm over here.
Speaker 1: But so you have no idea that it knocks because
Speaker 1: my fish had gone this way. And we're you know,
Speaker 1: we're careful about staying together, but we're guys out there.
Speaker 1: Come on, we're not like holding hands. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 1: known to be focused. And you know there's a fish.
Speaker 1: Well I'm in the group, but we're not. We're not
Speaker 1: because we really hadn't thought about this scenario. Who does.
Speaker 1: It's a once in a lifetime deal. So I've waited.
Speaker 1: My fish is going across the sand, giant hawk fish,
Speaker 1: and it I'm waiting for it to get to a
Speaker 1: coral head because you're visible if you go down and
Speaker 1: it's over the sand. So it finally gets to a
Speaker 1: coral head and goes behind a fan coral and then
Speaker 1: I go down and spear, get a good shot, get
Speaker 1: the fish. But then you've got to go down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a big one, and it's a free spirit. It's
Speaker 1: not connected to a line. So you've got to go
Speaker 1: down and get the fish on the spear, and the
Speaker 1: spears probably you know, three ft long or more feet
Speaker 1: long or more, and then you put the spear on
Speaker 1: the shooter so you can and then you hold it
Speaker 1: right here. Are some people hold it behind them, or
Speaker 1: you can hold it right here. It's easier to keep
Speaker 1: the fish on the spirit right here. You're holding it
Speaker 1: behind you because of the weight and the water pulling
Speaker 1: it may pull the fish off of the Spirit's got
Speaker 1: a little barbed that flaps out that holds it on
Speaker 1: but still a lot of times so that's not out
Speaker 1: and it could and if it's nothing, it could rip
Speaker 1: through and that's more blood in the water because it's
Speaker 1: longer in the water. Yeah, But anyway, I just did
Speaker 1: what Lincoln usually did, which was holding up here. I
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody explained it to me, but I've
Speaker 1: got that fish right here in front of the face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't know have any idea of what's happened
Speaker 1: with will in Tyron and the hot shark. So I'm
Speaker 1: coming up past the coral head and I'm thirty ft down.
Speaker 1: I'm coming up and I've got that fish right here
Speaker 1: holding my shooter, and I'm probably within ten ft of
Speaker 1: the boat. And you can imagine dived, dove, dived down
Speaker 1: thirty ft, speared the fish, corraled the fish, put it
Speaker 1: on the shooter. You're out of breath, are inside out
Speaker 1: the bottom. Now here we come. And I'm coming to
Speaker 1: the top. And I mean, I know I'm not gonna die,
Speaker 1: but because I've had it enough, you're focused on getting
Speaker 1: to the top. You want to get to the top.
Speaker 1: I'm right here, about ten ft from the top, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden come boom, something hits me in
Speaker 1: the side of the head like a freight train. And
Speaker 1: you're not afraid, You're just your thought is just shocked.
Speaker 1: What I well see. I was twenty above the bottom,
Speaker 1: I was ten ft above the top of the coral head.
Speaker 1: I was ten ft from the ocean. Service I couldn't
Speaker 1: imagine what it could be. I couldn't imagine what it was.
Speaker 1: Just shark. It just no, I didn't. That never crossed
Speaker 1: my mind, never crossed my mind. Well, because in the movies,
Speaker 1: you think we shark biting something. You don't think about
Speaker 1: it just blowing in to you at full speed and
Speaker 1: no pain, just boom. And so I looked to the
Speaker 1: side and the thing has taken my map, has bitten
Speaker 1: my mask off, and so I can't right here. Here's
Speaker 1: this mass bite ripped it right side and top like
Speaker 1: we talked about, so and it's cut the strap. So
Speaker 1: all I can see is this blur right here, this
Speaker 1: white underside, and this giant mouth open and all these
Speaker 1: teeth because the water's crystal clear. Why does teeth look
Speaker 1: like coming at you? Were they coming at you to
Speaker 1: eat you? Just there? It's just like a picture. Were
Speaker 1: they coming towards your face. No, I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: it's the weirdest thing because it's an ultra slow motion.
Speaker 1: As I thought about it, it was like a choreograph dance,
Speaker 1: and it was in ultra slow motion on the one hand,
Speaker 1: but on the other hand, it was at lightning speed.
Speaker 1: Because again, this fish was not after me. It was
Speaker 1: I was in the way of it doing work, the
Speaker 1: shark thing, and so I don't think a synapse ever
Speaker 1: got from my brain to my hand or my arm
Speaker 1: or my legs. I think it was on I think he,
Speaker 1: as I said, he was in prehistoric dinosaur kill mode,
Speaker 1: and I was in prehistoric dinosaur and stress ancestral I
Speaker 1: don't want you to kill me mode, and so I
Speaker 1: just lashed out with my hand. I may have had
Speaker 1: that shooter in my hand because I ended up in
Speaker 1: the boat with the shooter. I lost my mask in
Speaker 1: the spirit let go, and I hid it on the
Speaker 1: side right side of the head with this arm. And
Speaker 1: the shark was so big. I don't think I knocked
Speaker 1: it back. I think just propelled me away from it. Well,
Speaker 1: he took about a second and then he's back in,
Speaker 1: just rooting down. It was like a pig rooting burrowing
Speaker 1: down my side because the fish is now dropped blood
Speaker 1: in the water. I'm moving. You know, he's just confused,
Speaker 1: and he's just rooting down here, trying to find that fish,
Speaker 1: all the way down by side. And I hit him again,
Speaker 1: and each time I guess it would propel me away
Speaker 1: and give you about a seconds break, and then here
Speaker 1: he comes back in again. So you don't remember feeling
Speaker 1: the shark bath on your actual face. No, I think
Speaker 1: dying when the time is right, dying in uh violent
Speaker 1: accident is probably the most painless thing that could ever
Speaker 1: happen to you, because well, you know how many times
Speaker 1: I've been hurting my life from you thing, And you
Speaker 1: never feel it when you get hurt. You feel it
Speaker 1: when you're recovering, But at the time you're hurt, you
Speaker 1: have no earthly idea. I didn't I didn't know, I
Speaker 1: didn't have a thought in my mind. And so then
Speaker 1: he finally gets down here. I'm just you know, the
Speaker 1: whole way down I'm hitting and kicking, and so did
Speaker 1: you think you were going to die? Why so you
Speaker 1: weren't thinking this thing is gonna kill me? I'm freaking out,
Speaker 1: You're not brave. You're not anything. You're just again prehistoric
Speaker 1: dinosaur ancestral survival. You're not gonna I don't want you
Speaker 1: to bite me money. And I never thought of kill, really,
Speaker 1: I just thought, whatever you're doing, So you didn't think
Speaker 1: what I thought. I thought, whatever that shark is doing.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go do something else, and I want
Speaker 1: to go do something else. Get the road. Yeah, we've
Speaker 1: we've we've done. We've had enough of this. Were you
Speaker 1: worried I was gonna bite your arm off or your
Speaker 1: face off? You don't even think about that. It's not
Speaker 1: a thought. That's crazy. You don't have time to think.
Speaker 1: I like I said, I don't think a thought got
Speaker 1: to my brain. I've got so much room and my
Speaker 1: head from now on to put new things in because
Speaker 1: I think it cleared it completely. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a thought in there. So then I remember on the
Speaker 1: way up, you know, now we're separating. You pushed it away,
Speaker 1: you've dropped it well, the spears going down, and I
Speaker 1: think that's why, possibly when it went down on my leg,
Speaker 1: because it's following that fish down. So now we're separated,
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking, this guy can swim a hundred
Speaker 1: times faster than me. There's no sense in me swimming fast.
Speaker 1: So I just kinda swam raised me up to the water,
Speaker 1: thinking I'm gonna be relaxed, and if he hits me again,
Speaker 1: I'll be ready for you rather than just being in
Speaker 1: a frantic I'll be prepared as much as you can.
Speaker 1: So I got to the surface even and just felt
Speaker 1: this total sense of calm. I was not frantic. I
Speaker 1: was you know, Sharon hates me to say this, but
Speaker 1: I think I was really chuckling, sankling. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was thinking something and I don't know what it was,
Speaker 1: but it was just like it was almost surreal. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, for some reason, anytime I take a mad
Speaker 1: mountain football or something like that. A lot of times
Speaker 1: after mountain bike fall, I usually am kind of chuckling
Speaker 1: after I get up and that you made it through.
Speaker 1: You don't really know. It's almost funny because this really
Speaker 1: traumatic thing happened. You kind of just laughed. I wasn't
Speaker 1: worried about it coming up and get me. You know,
Speaker 1: they're just everywhere, and so Lincoln the boat guide with this,
Speaker 1: you know that we've been going out with in this
Speaker 1: beautiful meloded Bahamian voice. They all kind of sing when
Speaker 1: they talk, and it always and he barked, Steve, I
Speaker 1: think he's been bit, in his classic understated way getting
Speaker 1: the boat, and so I swim the ten yards to
Speaker 1: the boat. At that point I kick in and I say, hey,
Speaker 1: we made it this far. I think I'll motor on
Speaker 1: over there. Yeah, get the shoot her in And then
Speaker 1: pulled hoisted myself over the top. And Will was funny
Speaker 1: after that. He said, I didn't reach down to grab
Speaker 1: you because I wasn't sure if you had any hanging limbs. Truly,
Speaker 1: what if your army fallen off. Nobody knows knows, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know. So I sit in the boat and uh,
Speaker 1: we go into triage mode and Will has taken these
Speaker 1: courses and stuff, and so he comes back and he's
Speaker 1: looking at they course blood just everywhere. Luckily nothing was pulsing,
Speaker 1: which would have indicated arterial damage and there was none
Speaker 1: of that was just bleeding and just boat blood and
Speaker 1: leg and all over my face and yeah, it's in
Speaker 1: my eyes. So I didn't know if I'd got bitten
Speaker 1: in the eye or you don't know anything, and my
Speaker 1: face is known, so I don't know if it's when
Speaker 1: we saw it. Your whole lip was hanging off. Mean,
Speaker 1: you got a stitch back on. Great, but I mean
Speaker 1: your face was like hanging on. It was interesting for sure,
Speaker 1: and so will you know? He said he was good.
Speaker 1: And he said, are you in shocked? And I said no.
Speaker 1: He said, you have the chills. He knew what the
Speaker 1: sentive work, and I did too, and I said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm coherent, don't feel dizzy, don't think I'm gonna faint.
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good overall. I mean, you're like the
Speaker 1: only shark survivor who's just totally calm. So he says,
Speaker 1: you want me to take a photo of you so
Speaker 1: you can see and I said, I might as well
Speaker 1: get it over with. Go ahead, And so he took
Speaker 1: a photo and you know, my face was not gone.
Speaker 1: I didn't have any big pieces missing. My lip was
Speaker 1: you know, cut through and hanging down. And I had
Speaker 1: you know, you said, blood over all over the face,
Speaker 1: but I could tell that it was something that could
Speaker 1: be put back together. And UH was really relieved about that.
Speaker 1: You know, the first thought is man, and you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of blood on your face, But all in all,
Speaker 1: I was happy that the big pieces were there and
Speaker 1: there weren't any big pieces missing, and so, oh, this
Speaker 1: was funny. We all got the boat by we always
Speaker 1: uh rent from Wade Cash which is Sunset H Marna
Speaker 1: and boat Rental, and the boat Sharon loves it because
Speaker 1: the boats were always in top condition. They've got the
Speaker 1: everything's brand new, the GPS works, the radios are brand new.
Speaker 1: They've got more than left brand new life jackets and
Speaker 1: so of course he had a fantastic first aid kit.
Speaker 1: So Will takes out a bottle of alcohol. It's about
Speaker 1: like that. He said, here's Steve, you want me to
Speaker 1: pour this on your face? And I said, They're gonna
Speaker 1: be a number of things happening today, but you pouring
Speaker 1: that out on my faith is not one of them.
Speaker 1: Are my knee? He said? I said, are my need?
Speaker 1: I said, I will take my chances with infection. So
Speaker 1: we had a little chuckle about that. Then you get
Speaker 1: to the island and we got to think about what
Speaker 1: are we going to tell y'all? Oh, and Will said, okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta call the girls and tell them we're coming in,
Speaker 1: because you know they'll kill us if we don't say something.
Speaker 1: So he said, what am I gonna say? We thought
Speaker 1: for a minute. I said, well, you don't want to
Speaker 1: tell somebody that's gotta wait. We're thirty minutes out. You
Speaker 1: don't want to tell somebody Steve just got bit in
Speaker 1: the face by a shark and I've gotta waite thirty
Speaker 1: minutes six. So I said, why don't you tell him?
Speaker 1: I ran into something sharp on the coral reef and
Speaker 1: we're going in to get me a stitch. Oh, And
Speaker 1: Catherine says, oh, well, just bring him in and dump
Speaker 1: him off and we'll bring him home and you and
Speaker 1: Marcus and I mean you and Lincoln go back experience.
Speaker 1: He said, no, We've had a good day, and never
Speaker 1: stay here. He never calls spearing early because he loves
Speaker 1: it so much. When he called it, we knew something
Speaker 1: was up for like something's but we're going on because
Speaker 1: bumped into something sharp. I sharp. That was so Mom
Speaker 1: and I get to the clinic when Dad shows up
Speaker 1: and his face is falling off, Mom and are freaking out.
Speaker 1: We don't believe you because you that video which will
Speaker 1: do is the classic, which that is the classic, which
Speaker 1: nobody's seeing but us, and it is one for the ages.
Speaker 1: It's just so well, Dad tells us his shark, he's
Speaker 1: faced a bit by a shark. And you have been
Speaker 1: known to be a tall talor sometimes when I know
Speaker 1: everything is okay to add color to your story, exaggerate
Speaker 1: or makeup tall tale. So Dad's like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: got hit by a shark and Mom and the're like, no,
Speaker 1: do you didn't. And Mom mused for a few choice words,
Speaker 1: and it's like, tell me the truth. He was looking
Speaker 1: at Will and she's looking at Lincoln, And because she
Speaker 1: knows all of us have been inclined when everything's okay
Speaker 1: to kind of go in to your fix, she said,
Speaker 1: you tell me the truth with a lot of choice
Speaker 1: working there. Yeah, I'm like a flubbering idiot. It was
Speaker 1: pretty good. Did a great job in nurse. She'd never
Speaker 1: done anything anyway. So we go in and we just
Speaker 1: I sit down and you know, by then, I've seen
Speaker 1: the photo. I know that in much time. We go
Speaker 1: five minutes. Okay, we get to the clinic and they
Speaker 1: call the nurse in. It's about the size of this
Speaker 1: thing right here. It's not big. It's open air. And
Speaker 1: the nurse comes in on Saturday, named Shakira, and she's
Speaker 1: pretty adorable because she looks at me and she said,
Speaker 1: we're gonna ship you to the mainland. And I said,
Speaker 1: I said what mainland. I didn't know she sent green Church.
Speaker 1: I don't know she met Treasure or this. I said, no,
Speaker 1: you can do this. Your coach goes in. She said, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this. And so we go back in,
Speaker 1: get on the table and she looks at me and
Speaker 1: she said, I gotta make a call here he gets
Speaker 1: I said, Shakira, we can do this, and so should
Speaker 1: you take sharing any other him? And and she tells
Speaker 1: Sharon that she's about to have a panic attach. She said,
Speaker 1: I've done some stitching, but I've never done a shark.
Speaker 1: But said, we need to take him to the mainland.
Speaker 1: Chances now you can do this that he does lots
Speaker 1: of surgery and y'all get through it together. The thing
Speaker 1: I liked about it was it was so clean. It
Speaker 1: was open air. You're not dealing with a lot of
Speaker 1: the issues that you're dealing with in a big hospital.
Speaker 1: And I knew I was going to get there was
Speaker 1: nobody else there. I was going to get her undivided attention.
Speaker 1: And I'm a guy. And she said that you actually
Speaker 1: kept her calm. Well, but that's what I said. I'm
Speaker 1: a guy in any mail, you're crazy stars place to
Speaker 1: have that edgy look. You know you're crazy. You mean
Speaker 1: the thing that a few scars like, Well, I've already
Speaker 1: got the cute girl. What wants to do? So anyway,
Speaker 1: she sewed it up, did a wonderful job sailing it,
Speaker 1: disinfected it with iodine, stitched it up with proline suiture.
Speaker 1: I knew exactly what she was done. As we went through.
Speaker 1: She'd take photos and send them to the doctor, the
Speaker 1: medical doctor on the mainland wherever that was, and then
Speaker 1: both she and I would talk to the medical doctor.
Speaker 1: Gave me a technics shot, put me on antibiotics for
Speaker 1: five days, which we happen to have with us, but
Speaker 1: they sent some more over. So all in all, I mean,
Speaker 1: as far as having a shark bite to the face,
Speaker 1: you couldn't have gotten out better. And now you do
Speaker 1: you have that, Jason. Here's one of my granddaughter, Genevieve.
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, my Sharon's grandmother name is Lovey. My grandmother
Speaker 1: my grandfather name that Sharon, Catherine and Caroline figured out
Speaker 1: is lucky. I've always been so lucky, and I'm so
Speaker 1: lucky to have them. So as luck would have it,
Speaker 1: when it bit me right there, the plast excited my
Speaker 1: mask stopped it and I had a big dive knife
Speaker 1: right here with a big handle. So when it bit
Speaker 1: me on the knee, got me on both sides, it
Speaker 1: didn't tear either place. It hit the hard metal or
Speaker 1: plastic apparently, and let up rather than complete the bite
Speaker 1: and tear set out. So you've truly lived into your name. Lucky, lucky,
Speaker 1: and that shark to be in good spirits about it all.
Speaker 1: Most people probably freaking out losing years off their life,
Speaker 1: but not you. What have you learned from it all?
Speaker 1: So much of life is about timing and luck. And
Speaker 1: I read an article one time in the paper about
Speaker 1: a guy about a boat falling out of an airplane
Speaker 1: and hitting a gun in the head and killing. Well,
Speaker 1: how random is that? And so, like I said at
Speaker 1: the beginning, you don't want to be stupid, but you
Speaker 1: definitely I want to take a few chances. It's funny
Speaker 1: that I asked my ninety six year old grandmother Memmi
Speaker 1: one time. Uh, I was just talking to I said, Mammie,
Speaker 1: if you had to do it, differently, what would you
Speaker 1: what would you do? And she looked at me and
Speaker 1: didn't bad enough, and she said I would have taken
Speaker 1: more chances. Really, so you looked like that. So I
Speaker 1: like to wrap up with leave your light, which is
Speaker 1: leave inspiration, how codes you live by it? And something
Speaker 1: you want to inspire people buy or something inspires you,
Speaker 1: which ties it well to a sharp fight rock and roll.
Speaker 1: You know, just just decide that life is a good thing,
Speaker 1: that it's fun and you're gonna enjoy it, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, be the best you can at what you do.
Speaker 1: And somebody's always as far as making living, somebody's always
Speaker 1: gonna want what you do if you're really good at it.
Speaker 1: That's by motivating things. Not I've never thought about making
Speaker 1: a living. I've just thought about be the best at
Speaker 1: what I do and somebody's always gonna want that. Or
Speaker 1: if not have island plan, and the island plan is
Speaker 1: up for us has always been if dentistry ever didn't
Speaker 1: work out, we just come to the Bahama's an open
Speaker 1: little dive shop, and you know, I'm not gonna jump
Speaker 1: off a cliff, so that that would be my My
Speaker 1: leave is this is the best time you could possibly
Speaker 1: be alive. You've got more opportunity, more things you can do.
Speaker 1: Just take advantage of it. And done. A little shark
Speaker 1: bite holds you back, Try to be a good person.
Speaker 1: Tip big, you know, don't don't focus on yourself. And
Speaker 1: I think that's it. I think Lucky is a fitting
Speaker 1: name for you. Done, and we're writing a book. I
Speaker 1: got bit in a shark. I got bit in the
Speaker 1: face by a six ft shark. Because that is something,
Speaker 1: a tale that needs to be told. So you'll be
Speaker 1: looking for it. It's going to be a news stands
Speaker 1: next year. You have been talking about this, and I
Speaker 1: can't see why people might be. It's happening a little interesting,
Speaker 1: So everyone be prepared for that. Oh you know, there's
Speaker 1: one other thing. I have a whole new appreciation for
Speaker 1: social media because you went viral. It was never intended
Speaker 1: to be that way. You know, you you you think
Speaker 1: about when you go home. You can't just show up
Speaker 1: with your face bitten by shark. You've got to let
Speaker 1: your family and friends know. And so Caroline and Sharon
Speaker 1: and Catherine just posted on their webs, on their what, Instagram,
Speaker 1: instagrambok that this had happened. Well Julie Hayes was the
Speaker 1: wake Up, was a TV anchor, was one of Caroline's friends.
Speaker 1: She called Caroline, I wanted to talk to me, talk
Speaker 1: to me. Boom. That one got picked up by everyone.
Speaker 1: I mean we've been talking to people from Norway, London
Speaker 1: and the capital of this the State Department. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: but that my message, my leave messages. It's not the
Speaker 1: shark's fault. Don't be afraid sharks. That shark was doing
Speaker 1: its job. We have to have sharks to clean up
Speaker 1: the ocean, to get rid of dead and injured fish.
Speaker 1: So it was just strictly a timing thing. We were
Speaker 1: in his environment and it worked out that way. So uh,
Speaker 1: people should never be afraid of just snorkeling in the ocean.
Speaker 1: Basically it's clear water and if you're spear fishing, just
Speaker 1: be respectful and pay attention. Steve Lucky Cutbirth survived the
Speaker 1: shark back to the face. Thanks dad, You're welcome, all
Speaker 1: right by favorite interview. Hey, thanks you, my favorite dad. Carolave.
Speaker 1: She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man.
Speaker 1: She's on the inside. So you got the scoop on
Speaker 1: the walls, on the lawns to side, no one can
Speaker 1: do win quiet my Carola, Carola, I hope that you
Speaker 1: loved hearing from my dad. I still can't believe that
Speaker 1: he got bit in the face by a shark. Like
Speaker 1: I can't process it. Sometimes I'm like what, and You're fine?
Speaker 1: And what. I love him so much. He's an incredible father.
Speaker 1: He's an incredible man, and I think he has so
Speaker 1: much advice and wisdom. I'm so glad he got to share.
Speaker 1: Next week, I have Tony Brown. This dude is one
Speaker 1: of the biggest producers producers in music period. He is
Speaker 1: considered the founding father of alternative Americana country. He has
Speaker 1: had over forty years in the music business, over a
Speaker 1: hundred number one songs and over a hundred million album
Speaker 1: sales he has been a part of. He has produced Reba,
Speaker 1: Bence Gill, George, Straight, Bricks and Dunne, Tricia Yearwood, Rodney
Speaker 1: Crowd and name a few. He's incredible. He's won a
Speaker 1: Grammy and he's so so sweet and interesting, and he's
Speaker 1: writing a book talking about all of his experiences with
Speaker 1: all these pictures, with these greats. He also played in
Speaker 1: Elvis's band What and Emmy Lou Harris's band, he played piano.
Speaker 1: So y'all get excited for Tony Brown next week. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna want to miss it. BELTL