WEBVTT - Steve Cutbirth

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<v Speaker 1>Carolam. She's a queen of talking. He was sown your man.

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<v Speaker 1>She's on the yes side, she got the scoop on

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<v Speaker 1>the on side. No one can win quiet like Carola, Carola.

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<v Speaker 1>No one can win quiet like Caralami. Carola. Hey, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>I know music, I know people, and I know the

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<v Speaker 1>questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper

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<v Speaker 1>heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there

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<v Speaker 1>could be adult content. So this week, I'm having a

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<v Speaker 1>surprise guest that was not planned. Tony Brown was planned

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode, but I'm pushing him back to next

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<v Speaker 1>this week because I have to take the time to

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<v Speaker 1>interview my father. We're on vacation the Bahamas last week

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<v Speaker 1>and he got bit in the face by a shark.

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<v Speaker 1>A shark bit my dad in the face. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>are you kidding me? Who on this earth has survived

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<v Speaker 1>a shark bite? And let alone survived a shark bite

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<v Speaker 1>to the face. So he's fine, he's doing great, He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to heal up just perfectly, have some cool scars.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had to get the story out there because

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<v Speaker 1>it's so incredible. And not only is the story so incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad is amazing. He's an incredible husband, he's an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible father, he's an incredible businessman. He's a dentist, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's built an institute, a dental institute, and he has

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<v Speaker 1>so much wisdom to share. And just top it off

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<v Speaker 1>with the story of the shark bite and how he

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<v Speaker 1>handled that and how he processed all that. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>my dad's Steve cut birth. Y'all get excited. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>I am here. How's it all look? Mom? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you looking? Good? Great? I I'm here with my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve cut b who is also a shark bite survivor,

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<v Speaker 1>which we we think you might be the only one

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<v Speaker 1>who survived a shark bite to the face. We've looked

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<v Speaker 1>it up. We haven't found anyone else, right, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>in on that. I don't know. It's all fun games

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<v Speaker 1>now because you're fine for a while. This is very scary.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see what people would think that was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So we want to get all into the shark bite.

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<v Speaker 1>But before I did, I want to start at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of your life. Kind of gives someone who's listening

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of an idea of who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna start with some questions. Tell me that

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<v Speaker 1>don't look at my questions. Tell me the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>that comes to your mind when I tell you ask

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<v Speaker 1>you a question, don't you can't think about it? Shark

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<v Speaker 1>shark bride right now, it's a shark bite, shark bite death.

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<v Speaker 1>Never think about that. Never, it's not your radar. Not

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<v Speaker 1>worried about it. Great. Do you think there's something that

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<v Speaker 1>happens after this life? I do. I think you go

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<v Speaker 1>to a wonderful place after you die. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the people have always thought that people are worried

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<v Speaker 1>about death or and don't think you go to a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful place after you die, and don't think that there's

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<v Speaker 1>something out there bigger than all of us. Are going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a hard time getting through life because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't prove it one way or the other. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think you lead a much better life if you just

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<v Speaker 1>decide that's what happens. So you can have relationships with

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<v Speaker 1>your spouse, with children, with I mean your children, your grandchildren,

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<v Speaker 1>your friends. And I can't think of anything worse than

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<v Speaker 1>thinking there wasn't something big that connects us and that

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<v Speaker 1>you go to a wonderful place when you die. I

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<v Speaker 1>just choose to believe that. Okay, food, shrimp, Uncle Dann's barbecue,

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<v Speaker 1>elk and kiss the door, chicken fehita. Case it did,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the restaurant. These are Waco restaurants. Funny, We've eaten

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<v Speaker 1>some of the finest restaurants in the world. But if

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<v Speaker 1>I had to pick last meal, it would probably be

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Dan's. I've gotten the same thing for thirty four years.

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<v Speaker 1>A lean slice plate, yellowtato salad, baked beans, two pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of wheat bread, mild sauce, two doubled eggs, sweet tea

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<v Speaker 1>this half tea and half water with lemon, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so. Would you say you're a creature of habit.

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<v Speaker 1>If I find something I like, I don't that I

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<v Speaker 1>really like. As in the case of your mother, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't look for something else. I'm happy. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>laid eyes, Mom, you knew. Well it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a funny story because I was in college my sophomore year,

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<v Speaker 1>taking uh organic chemistry in the summer in the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>and my roommate at the time was not my regular roommate.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a fifth year senior that was in graduate school,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was just there for the summer because my

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<v Speaker 1>roommate had gone home. So we were in the same fraternity.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were sharing an apartment and he said, we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get you out of here. Your brain is gonna explode.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, okay, I'll have a break between the

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<v Speaker 1>two summer semesters and we'll go do something. He said super.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was dating this girl and he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get me a blind date and we were gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>water skiing with a guy that was a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>his in Waco that had a boat on Lake Waco.

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<v Speaker 1>So the day comes and we go out there, get

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<v Speaker 1>out of the car and there is this girl walking

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<v Speaker 1>the boat dock in a green bikini. And I said

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<v Speaker 1>to the guy, I'm going to marry that girl. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even know her and she's my day. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you engaged And he said, well no, and I said

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<v Speaker 1>good luck. And that was it. Something about it never

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<v Speaker 1>looked back. So when you find something you like, you

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<v Speaker 1>stick with it. That's it. I'm done. I like that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>uh fun outdoor? Um. I like sports. I love hard

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<v Speaker 1>mountain back trails. I love to play football. I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>more of a player than a watcher. I love to

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<v Speaker 1>play golf. We've never been to Las Vegas, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I can play golf without betting a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit my perfect golf round as you could win

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<v Speaker 1>or lose a hundred dollars and uh what else. I

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<v Speaker 1>love spear fishing, even though I'll be back in there

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<v Speaker 1>to the next thing. It is kind of interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hunt, you know, I have If I find

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<v Speaker 1>a scorpion in the house or a cricket, I'll catch

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<v Speaker 1>it and take it outside. But spear fishing is so

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating because it's so difficult. Number One, you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>just a dive mask and a snorkel and fins. You're

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<v Speaker 1>holding your breath. This this the spirit is not a

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<v Speaker 1>spear gun. It's a Hawaiian sling with a wooden shooter

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<v Speaker 1>and uh surgical tubing and a little cup that the

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<v Speaker 1>spear goes through. And so you've got to dive down

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<v Speaker 1>thirty find a fish. It's got the fish. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>every advantage and we only eat Willy spirit what we eat,

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<v Speaker 1>and then spear the fish, then corral the fish and

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<v Speaker 1>then go to the top. And you've got the extra

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<v Speaker 1>little color of sharks. Well, you took that to a

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<v Speaker 1>whole new level this trip with a shark bright to

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<v Speaker 1>the face. Which we're going to get all into that

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<v Speaker 1>in a little bit, but that's quite the taking it

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<v Speaker 1>to the max. Well, it wasn't intended what you're holding

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<v Speaker 1>your mask right now that you're wearing with a shark attacking,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think this mass saved your face. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure that's right. Let's just hold this up. This mass

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<v Speaker 1>saved dad's face. There's a big old slice near the nose,

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<v Speaker 1>which here it lat's see it bit me. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into that. Now, give us a little just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, don't go to full detail. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been laying on the ocean floor since Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>In the day's Thursday, and Will my son in lawn Marcus,

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<v Speaker 1>the son of the guide, went back just for fun

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<v Speaker 1>to see if they could find it. So they actually

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<v Speaker 1>found the spear shaft that had the fish on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they found this mask on the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 1>ocean down and they found a sixty fit grouper which

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<v Speaker 1>they shop so you can see how the shark's teeth

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<v Speaker 1>lacerated the strap. Then I pulled it against my white shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Lacerated the nose area. This is where it got my lip,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's got a hole here in the nose

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<v Speaker 1>where it got my nose. And then it's got you

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<v Speaker 1>can't see that, but it's got teeth marks on the

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<v Speaker 1>top and the bottom of the mask. So in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that it just bit and didn't tear was

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<v Speaker 1>the teeth hit that plastic around the mask and it

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<v Speaker 1>felt foreign, and so it hard and it released rather

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<v Speaker 1>than completing the bite. And so this mouse saved your life,

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<v Speaker 1>save your face at least, well I mean it. It

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<v Speaker 1>is allowed me to have that edgy look rather than

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<v Speaker 1>stranger look. So thank goodness with that mass. Okay, celebrity,

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity Yeah, um gosh, that's a hard one. First day.

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<v Speaker 1>It comes to mind, James Bond, Matt Damon. You lived

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<v Speaker 1>out your venture story, you lived out your venture movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I did well. You know, Matt Damon is an interesting story.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? You know? We were staying at the

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth Seasons Hotel in Austin. It was late one night.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember why we were there, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to get on the elevator to go up probably

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<v Speaker 1>and here comes this dude, walking in with a toboggan

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<v Speaker 1>and just a green T shirt and green pants and

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<v Speaker 1>some like combat boots on. And I said, uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>said what do what? I said, reached my hand out

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<v Speaker 1>and said Steve Cutberth And he said name, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I know who you are. I said, what are you?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing in Austin. He said, well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>filming True Grit. Said this may be one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best days of your life because my daughter at the

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<v Speaker 1>time you were stealing angels. And I said, my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>sings in a band with John Wayne's granddaughter and Reda

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<v Speaker 1>Lynn's granddaughter. So how about that they sing a song

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<v Speaker 1>or write a song as the theme song for True Grit.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said that's a great idea. Why didn't happen? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I gave him my card and he said, I'll call you.

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<v Speaker 1>He never called, never called. We're waiting for your phone call.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. I guess one way deal. Yeah, I'm annoyed

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<v Speaker 1>at that. Really a nice guy ticket, Yeah he is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's as nice a guy as he seems like he is.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were just besties for about five seconds. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably about a man in it riding up the elevator

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<v Speaker 1>short lived best friendship. Okay, what do you find annoying?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you find annoying? Excessive talk, meaningless talk, just chatter.

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<v Speaker 1>These people just narrating, filling the air the most of

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<v Speaker 1>the world you find annoying. No, I like a good conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a good story, but I don't like just

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<v Speaker 1>chatter to fill the air. Okay, you want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about something in particular, Yeah, okay, all right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when you finished, be like a pinpoint and you just

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<v Speaker 1>stop talking. What do you fear Sharon getting mad at

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<v Speaker 1>she's really leaving me? See if she left me, I've

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<v Speaker 1>always said, if she ever threw me out, I just

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<v Speaker 1>have a little tent in the front yard cooking out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it'd be raining and cold, and you and Katherine say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>just giving See I've given you this. This may be

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<v Speaker 1>a treacherous stark already. I've sent you this hook several times,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe somebody. I think somebody wrote this song give

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<v Speaker 1>me one more last chance, a little shot, one more

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<v Speaker 1>last chance? Is that a song? I'm sure that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I say to Mom all the time. I say, just

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<v Speaker 1>give me one more. Mom left you, you'd be tasted.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a good hearted woman gets occasionally she'll try to

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<v Speaker 1>get that stern like but it didn't last. Why would

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<v Speaker 1>she need to be stirring with you just because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>bad sometimes not bad bad, but just I'm good, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just push your limit a little, a straight not

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<v Speaker 1>I would never do anything bad, but just you're a

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<v Speaker 1>little rough around the edges. Well there you go. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>they got the shark right to prove it right. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So you grew up on a ranch in Brownwood, Texas

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<v Speaker 1>and you always talk about code of the West and

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<v Speaker 1>how that shaped your values and moral system. Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>why that has impacted and what that means to you. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>most of my family, my dad was a medical doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>but most of my family were ranchers and farmers, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were just very direct. You know, my my granddad.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, a deal's deal, and paper has nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it. You know, if you say you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, you're gonna do it. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty good way to live your life. Um No,

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<v Speaker 1>I've growing up in Brownwood. It was the football capital

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. Sports have played a huge party, talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Gosh, well, I coached all y'all's teams, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's funny with Caroline and Katherine. The first game

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<v Speaker 1>of soccer I ever saw was the first game I

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<v Speaker 1>coached when Katherine was about seven. But all ball games

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<v Speaker 1>are about the same. You're trying to get the ball

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<v Speaker 1>into this scoring area down here and keep the other

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<v Speaker 1>team from getting it into this scoring area down here.

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<v Speaker 1>So why can all of life be defined by coat

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<v Speaker 1>of the Western's sports? Okay, um, well it's it's try.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's my favorite phrase, just try. Let's just try.

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<v Speaker 1>Too many people, you know, get into some of as

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<v Speaker 1>hard they just quit. And when I was coaching your

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<v Speaker 1>team's I remember when your team was playing. You were

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<v Speaker 1>a fourth grade team and you are playing a fifth

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<v Speaker 1>grade team. And we didn't have a single person on

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<v Speaker 1>the team on our fourth grade team because we were

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<v Speaker 1>playing in standard baskets that could get the ball to

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<v Speaker 1>the rim. And so we had what we called the

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<v Speaker 1>secret plan. I won't go into that, but our matto

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<v Speaker 1>was we had a plan to keep the other team

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<v Speaker 1>from scoring twenty points because we knew we couldn't score

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<v Speaker 1>because we couldn't get it to the hoops. So the

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<v Speaker 1>plan was to keep them from scoring. Yeah, because they've

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<v Speaker 1>beaten these fourth grade teams six seed and nothing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, no team of mine is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>beating six ft and nothing. So our mato was, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just try and execute plans. So this coach Gordon would

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like a world renowned coach from nings coach

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<v Speaker 1>of all time. He won more state championships, more games,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was back in the day, and he really impacted. Yet,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, they only took one team to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they take half the district, but then they only

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<v Speaker 1>took one. And he never talked about the assets of

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<v Speaker 1>the other team. If there was a big guy on

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<v Speaker 1>the other team, if there was a fast gut on

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<v Speaker 1>the other team, he didn't care what they did. He

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<v Speaker 1>executed our plan, and he taught me systems and so

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<v Speaker 1>I and that's transferred into your dentistry. Has Um. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>written this article one time for k Texas Coach Magazine

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<v Speaker 1>that coach Wood had asked me to write because we

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<v Speaker 1>were both on the board of the Texas High School

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<v Speaker 1>Football Hall of Fame and he was getting older and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, Steve, I want you to write a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>year retrospective on the value of high school football. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote that article for Texas Coach Magazine, just for

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Woods, not really thinking how all that transferred to

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<v Speaker 1>my later life. And after I got through, I said

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<v Speaker 1>to my staff, if y'all want to know why we

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<v Speaker 1>run our practice the way we do, read this article

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just the you know, his his system,

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<v Speaker 1>and what I've tried to do in my dental practice

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<v Speaker 1>and other things is just uh kind of what he did,

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<v Speaker 1>which was fundamentals. He always got the fundamentals right. You

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<v Speaker 1>never lost a game because somebody jo jumped off side

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<v Speaker 1>or got a uh what do you call it, personal

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<v Speaker 1>foul penalty or something that was stupid. You know you

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<v Speaker 1>and in a real type game that could make the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just play like a practice fundamentals execute. So

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<v Speaker 1>I know the other thing, the play like you practice

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<v Speaker 1>is really a huge thing, and we use that on

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<v Speaker 1>all of your teams, which always won the championship. When

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<v Speaker 1>somebody standing in the free throw about shoot a free throw,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot say I've got to make that free throw.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do, you'll miss it. The only thought that

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<v Speaker 1>ought to be in your mind is shoot like you practice,

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<v Speaker 1>and practice. I dribble the ball three times, hold it

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<v Speaker 1>right here, take a deep breath and shoot. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you've got that that mentality, you always want to have

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<v Speaker 1>the ball in your hands at the end of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and you if you shoot the bast shoot the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Say you're taking a three point point shot to win

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<v Speaker 1>the game and you miss. People that have never been

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation, you're gonna go, oh, she missed. But

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<v Speaker 1>anybody that's been in that situation is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>looking to see if you shot like you practice and

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<v Speaker 1>understand that from three point range, you're probably gonna only

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<v Speaker 1>get a hit about one out of three anyway. So

0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.280
<v Speaker 1>you didn't choke, You just missed, and you had the

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<v Speaker 1>courage to have the ball in your hands at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the game. So you've never been scared to

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<v Speaker 1>have pressure on you. Well, I've been able because of

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<v Speaker 1>what I learned back then and other parts of football

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<v Speaker 1>has transferred into your dentistry practice. Let's talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mind thing. You know, if you can't get

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<v Speaker 1>your mind in the right place, you could be the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest athlete or the greatest at doing what but whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is. But if you if you don't have your

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<v Speaker 1>mind set, then I think you're not ever gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>very successful if you're worried about failure. So how's that

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<v Speaker 1>transferred into dentistry? Because you've gone on to become a

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<v Speaker 1>world around dentist. You you speak all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a dental institute called Cards Center for a

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<v Speaker 1>Senecal Story Dentistry. Yeah, you've even done some country music Tetheacher,

0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Bones and Amy Brown on the Bobby Bone Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you've done a lot of cool dentistry. You've

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<v Speaker 1>really done a lot in dentistry. So how has that

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<v Speaker 1>motto of the Code of the West play like you

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<v Speaker 1>practice transferred into your dental practice in your lifestyle? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I only think about the things I can control in

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life. I don't think about things I can't control.

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<v Speaker 1>And island plan, we'll talk about that in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll forget who you remember. So from the get go,

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<v Speaker 1>I said I want to be the finest restorative dentists

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<v Speaker 1>that's ever lived. Restorative dentistry is veneers and crowns and

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<v Speaker 1>bridges and implants and things like that. Well, you you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to be that smart, because anybody that knows

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<v Speaker 1>you knows I'm not that smart. I'm very uh what's

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<v Speaker 1>the word perseverance. I'll stay with it. And you don't

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<v Speaker 1>just wake up one day and say I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>really good at something. You've got to be trained. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I They've always told you and any girls on

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<v Speaker 1>my team or our teams that if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the best at something, first you have to identify

0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Speaker 1>those people that are the very best to get to them.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I got to those people. One was in Switzerland, Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>New York, you know wherever they were. I just got

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<v Speaker 1>the plane and went. You just called them up when

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't have any money. You've always said that people

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<v Speaker 1>are so afraid to call the top dogs, and you

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<v Speaker 1>never have been And tell them I don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to spoon feed me. I don't want to bother you

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<v Speaker 1>take any of your time, but I just like to

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<v Speaker 1>come see what you do. And then once I get there,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, how did you learn? What you learned? And

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're glad to tell you. Isn't that amazing? Think

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<v Speaker 1>they're happy to tell you. People think that it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the homecoming queen or something that they're untouchable. But well,

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<v Speaker 1>when I went to see that guy in but I

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<v Speaker 1>blame that does can er treatment. None of us have cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way. That was Germany, right, Germany. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>this guy had invented this new cancer treatment that and

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<v Speaker 1>I went over to seeing and he said, now, what

0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:15.840
<v Speaker 1>type of doctor or you? And I said, well, I

0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:17.880
<v Speaker 1>haven't dentist. He said, why are you here? I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I just had to know. I said, don't. Don't medical

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<v Speaker 1>people come over and see you from the United States

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, And he said, no, you're the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think people just they just yeah, the homecoming queen.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to homecoming Queen's already got a date, but probably

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<v Speaker 1>nobody called her because they didn't they thought you already

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<v Speaker 1>had a day. Yeah, so you're just curious and you're

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:46.240
<v Speaker 1>not afraid to ask. Well, it is. It's a funny

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 1>thing because so many people, that's the older people are going,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, the times were in right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>if I hear one more time, I worry for my grandchildren.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna throw up. We're living in the

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<v Speaker 1>best possible times. You can get on a plane right

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<v Speaker 1>now and go anywhere. And I think that by traveling

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 1>two different interesting places around the world, Uh, you see

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<v Speaker 1>that there's no perfect spot, and we're living in the

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 1>spot that everybody wants to go to. The United States

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 1>is where everybody wants to go, That's where they want

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<v Speaker 1>to live. And I've got a dental assistant that it's

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<v Speaker 1>from Mexico and she is the most just one of

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the most pleasant people in the world. And I've asked her, Luisa,

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 1>what what's the big deal about the United States? And she,

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 1>without blinking and eye she says, opportunity. But they're not

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 1>going to give it to you. You go for it. Yeah,

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:50.639
<v Speaker 1>you gotta work for it. But you know, what do

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:53.760
<v Speaker 1>you want? You got opportunity. Anyway, back to the dental thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought about productivity or money or things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to have enough money that your mom, Sharon,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could buy a house that she wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed to bring her friends. That was my goal. I said,

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 1>I'd just like to have a decent house that Sharon

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<v Speaker 1>would not be embarrassed to bring her friends. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought about anything else. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the best at this that's ever been. And then

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 1>like Muhammad Ali, he claimed he was the greatest even

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.159
<v Speaker 1>before he was well, I didn't necessarily want to claim

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<v Speaker 1>I was greatest. I just wanted technically to know I

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<v Speaker 1>was the greatest because it was in my mind the best,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would have a hard time talking to people

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<v Speaker 1>about their options if I didn't think I knew everything

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<v Speaker 1>that could be done to fix it and was using

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<v Speaker 1>the best in the world. And this was an interesting

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>time when I first started, because interest rates were fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>percent and went up to and nobody wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>this route of dentistry that you were h ms to

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<v Speaker 1>just come in managed care. And managed care means you

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<v Speaker 1>sign up to a program, they tell you what you

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<v Speaker 1>can do, they tell you what you can charge, and

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 1>so it's a prescription for mediocrity. There's a place for it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't do the very best of anything in

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that mediocre media open situation. It's like communism are socialized,

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 1>everything is the same. It'd be like every restaurant in

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<v Speaker 1>the world at the charge the very same thing and

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, have the same product. And with managed care

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and medicaid, it's a lot of people don't notice. Like

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:45.199
<v Speaker 1>the this story about buying watermelons for a dollar, I

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>mean buying watermelons for two dollars and sell them for

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<v Speaker 1>a dollar and try to make up the cost differential

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>involue you can't do it. So I was never cut

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<v Speaker 1>out for that. So we've never done managed care or

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>medicare and medicaid any of at not that I don't

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:05.399
<v Speaker 1>think there's a place for it, but everything everyone told

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<v Speaker 1>you you couldn't make it doing the way you did it.

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<v Speaker 1>They said you're gonna go broke if you don't. I

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>was about twenty seven when it came in and this

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>guy gave a seminar to our dental society and said,

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<v Speaker 1>if if y'all don't sign up, then you're gonna go broke.

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna want to get on and they're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let you on. And I said, it's cruel, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>turned out great for you, to hell with it. We'll

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>go somewhere else. Somebody's gonna want what I do and

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 1>what exactly do you do? Quickly? And I do. My

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:38.399
<v Speaker 1>training is in complex restorative dentistry, but it didn't start

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>like that. When I started, I was doing dental hygiene everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and we see all kinds of people. But my training

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 1>is in complicated things like porcelambineers, missing front teeth, pull

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>myth reconstructions, implants and every so every day it's bobs

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<v Speaker 1>from just dark hurt in two. I see one patient

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<v Speaker 1>every morning from eight in the morning until one or

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 1>two or three or four in the Absolutity satellite. We'll

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>take a little break at lunch. And they've got ivy sedation,

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 1>so they've got a verse in denverroll which are very safe.

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Gregs just takes the edge off and uh, we're doing complex,

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>something complicated every morning. Then we do easy things in

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>the afternoon, say some when we see people's kids. I

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>like that it is complicated cases or specialty. Okay, you

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>lost a brother at thirty six, How did that affect

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>your life? Well, it's it's uh, you know, he and

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>over the same size, the same high, same way, we

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 1>both had been, had loved athletics, um and he was

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>just playing tennis one day and at thirty six and

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:57.919
<v Speaker 1>dropped dead of a rhythmic and we I think my

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>family kind of marked time by his death. And from

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>then on I just thought, you can't anticipate it. You

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.199
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be stupid, but you sure don't want

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>to go through your life playing it completely safe. And

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 1>because he was in perfect health as far as he

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>knew it just had a lot of times a good

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>athlete or good athletes die over rhythms, but you know

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>they're not playing it safe. Is kind of gone to

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:34.719
<v Speaker 1>extremes because Sharon and I have gone the places like

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>out of Mongolia, which is three days from nowhere, with

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a guide and a cook and an old Russian. Here

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>come these Mongolians riding up on horses with nineteen fifties

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>rifles across their back. And he and I looked at

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>each other and said this could be interesting. But after

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>that true for friends, said Steve, you've taken this too far,

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>too far, but we've had we've had a good time.

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>So basically though, with the passing of your brother, that

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>helped you to be a little fearless, oh you know again,

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>not stupid. I don't want to take chances with people

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>like you're not gonna see me riding down the road

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 1>on a motorcycle with sharing on the back, because that's

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I like things that I've got a little control over,

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, if the little old lady pulls out in

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>front of you. But for myself, you know I do

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>hard mountain bike riding, and you know how it is.

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>When we first went to Waco. I was still playing

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>uh City League football for the first ten years, and

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you and Katherine would go to those games and asked

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you about one night I went home my face was

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>all blooding my hands roll and you're Catherine One said, Dad,

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>You've got to grow up. I like I like things

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>with a little edge, not stupid, but with a little edge. Okay,

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>so now we want to get to the shark bite. Okay,

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>tell me briefly, don't go in too much, dufl Tell

0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>me about how long you've been coming to this island,

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>what your routine is with spear fishing, and why this

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>one day was different and the shark attacked you. Okay,

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>we've been coming to this island thirty years, briefly going

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>out with the same guy a thirty years. He was

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>thirty two, I think when we started our thirty seven

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>and now he's sixty seven. And we've gone with his son,

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>David uh and we're with his his other son Marcus,

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and so we've got a protocol, which Sharon said, because

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>they're used to really not be as many sharks over

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>here back in the day, you'd see one ever now

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and then, because they used to shark fishing was a

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>thing way back then and they quit doing that. And

0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's the warm water, we've talked it,

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>but back then you'd see a shark and if you

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>were here for a week, maybe two or three times. Now,

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>whenever you get into spirit, you pretty much know every

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>time a shark is gonna come. And we're not afraid

0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>of them, but we're respectful. So the protocol with Sharon

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and Lincoln set up was after you've speared two or

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>three fish into place with these Hawaiian slings, you moved

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>to another spot because sharks are gonna come in and

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>bloods in the water, and anytime you see a shark,

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you you go to a different spot. Obviously on every

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>time we're not and sharks do not want to bite people.

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>If you're just snorkeling in the water, you don't have

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>in it's clear water like the cribbon, you don't have

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 1>a thing to worry about. We've been um Wheel has

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>been back spear fishing every day with the guides since

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I had this and eat you and he yes, my

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>son in law Will powers Uh and he and Katherine

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 1>live in Austin, and of course Caroline and Michael Hobby

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>a thousand horses. You Yes, my favorite band live in Nashville. Um.

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>And Will's in the gas compliance business magazine magazine, so

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>he knows what he's doing. So what was I talking about?

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about don't they don't want you. But if

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you're spearing and you've got a fish that's been spared,

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>wake up because that's shark is only doing its job,

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>which is keeping the ocean clean by eating dead and

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>injured fish. And this shark was no different. He was

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>just doing his job. And it has to be a

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>pattern to be a perfect storm. So here's what we

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:54.959
<v Speaker 1>do when we go sparing. Were generally in probably twenty

0:32:55.000 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to thirty of water. That's a that's a free dive depth.

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>And so we get in and we stay together. Usually

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>there's there's always at least two of us and sometimes three,

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and we stay together, and you know, then you'll go

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>dive right there. In this case, Will and Tyrone, who

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>is Lincoln, our guide's nephew, and I were together and

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>there was fish here and a fish here, and I

0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>went after this fish and they went after this big

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>hog fish. And so Tyrone went down and speared that fish,

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and he and Will were together and as they were

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>coming to the surface, this big five six ft shark

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>comes in and follows them all the way to the boat.

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>And they we go directly to the boat, always with

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>a fish and put it in the boat, so we

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>don't ever drag him behind us. But this shark came

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>to the boat and actually knocked the Willie had his

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>go pro on his shooter, which is the wooden handle,

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:08.720
<v Speaker 1>and it actually knocked the shooter out of his hands.

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>So this shark was in feeding frenzy, prehistoric dinostaur attack mode.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>It was. It wanted the fish and they call it hot.

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 1>That fish. That shark was hot, and we don't mean sexy, no,

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>not like you and wom And this fish was after

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the fish. This shark wanted blood and the fish. It was.

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>It was dinosaur mode. Dinner bell had been the inner

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.439
<v Speaker 1>bell had been run and so Ladi da, I'm over here.

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 1>But so you have no idea that it knocks because

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>my fish had gone this way. And we're you know,

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>we're careful about staying together, but we're guys out there.

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Come on, we're not like holding hands. Yeah, and I'm

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:59.479
<v Speaker 1>known to be focused. And you know there's a fish.

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Well I'm in the group, but we're not. We're not

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>because we really hadn't thought about this scenario. Who does.

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a once in a lifetime deal. So I've waited.

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>My fish is going across the sand, giant hawk fish,

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>and it I'm waiting for it to get to a

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>coral head because you're visible if you go down and

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>it's over the sand. So it finally gets to a

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>coral head and goes behind a fan coral and then

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I go down and spear, get a good shot, get

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the fish. But then you've got to go down. Yeah,

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.879
<v Speaker 1>it's a big one, and it's a free spirit. It's

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>not connected to a line. So you've got to go

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>down and get the fish on the spear, and the

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 1>spears probably you know, three ft long or more feet

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>long or more, and then you put the spear on

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the shooter so you can and then you hold it

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>right here. Are some people hold it behind them, or

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you can hold it right here. It's easier to keep

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the fish on the spirit right here. You're holding it

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:03.720
<v Speaker 1>behind you because of the weight and the water pulling

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 1>it may pull the fish off of the Spirit's got

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 1>a little barbed that flaps out that holds it on

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>but still a lot of times so that's not out

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and it could and if it's nothing, it could rip

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>through and that's more blood in the water because it's

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>longer in the water. Yeah, But anyway, I just did

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>what Lincoln usually did, which was holding up here. I

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know if anybody explained it to me, but I've

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 1>got that fish right here in front of the face. Yeah,

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know have any idea of what's happened

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:37.479
<v Speaker 1>with will in Tyron and the hot shark. So I'm

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:39.959
<v Speaker 1>coming up past the coral head and I'm thirty ft down.

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming up and I've got that fish right here

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>holding my shooter, and I'm probably within ten ft of

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>the boat. And you can imagine dived, dove, dived down

0:36:54.480 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>thirty ft, speared the fish, corraled the fish, put it

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 1>on the shooter. You're out of breath, are inside out

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 1>the bottom. Now here we come. And I'm coming to

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.439
<v Speaker 1>the top. And I mean, I know I'm not gonna die,

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>but because I've had it enough, you're focused on getting

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to the top. You want to get to the top.

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm right here, about ten ft from the top, and

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden come boom, something hits me in

0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>the side of the head like a freight train. And

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you're not afraid, You're just your thought is just shocked.

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>What I well see. I was twenty above the bottom,

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>I was ten ft above the top of the coral head.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I was ten ft from the ocean. Service I couldn't

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>imagine what it could be. I couldn't imagine what it was.

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Just shark. It just no, I didn't. That never crossed

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>my mind, never crossed my mind. Well, because in the movies,

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>you think we shark biting something. You don't think about

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it just blowing in to you at full speed and

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>no pain, just boom. And so I looked to the

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 1>side and the thing has taken my map, has bitten

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 1>my mask off, and so I can't right here. Here's

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>this mass bite ripped it right side and top like

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>we talked about, so and it's cut the strap. So

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>all I can see is this blur right here, this

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>white underside, and this giant mouth open and all these

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 1>teeth because the water's crystal clear. Why does teeth look

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:38.400
<v Speaker 1>like coming at you? Were they coming at you to

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>eat you? Just there? It's just like a picture. Were

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 1>they coming towards your face. No, I mean it's it's

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>it's the weirdest thing because it's an ultra slow motion.

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>As I thought about it, it was like a choreograph dance,

0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and it was in ultra slow motion on the one hand,

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 1>but on the other hand, it was at lightning speed.

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Because again, this fish was not after me. It was

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I was in the way of it doing work, the

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:17.359
<v Speaker 1>shark thing, and so I don't think a synapse ever

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>got from my brain to my hand or my arm

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 1>or my legs. I think it was on I think he,

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>as I said, he was in prehistoric dinosaur kill mode,

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 1>and I was in prehistoric dinosaur and stress ancestral I

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want you to kill me mode, and so I

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.879
<v Speaker 1>just lashed out with my hand. I may have had

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that shooter in my hand because I ended up in

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the boat with the shooter. I lost my mask in

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>the spirit let go, and I hid it on the

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>side right side of the head with this arm. And

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 1>the shark was so big. I don't think I knocked

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.439
<v Speaker 1>it back. I think just propelled me away from it. Well,

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>he took about a second and then he's back in,

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 1>just rooting down. It was like a pig rooting burrowing

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:15.760
<v Speaker 1>down my side because the fish is now dropped blood

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:20.800
<v Speaker 1>in the water. I'm moving. You know, he's just confused,

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and he's just rooting down here, trying to find that fish,

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:27.320
<v Speaker 1>all the way down by side. And I hit him again,

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and each time I guess it would propel me away

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:33.560
<v Speaker 1>and give you about a seconds break, and then here

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:36.280
<v Speaker 1>he comes back in again. So you don't remember feeling

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 1>the shark bath on your actual face. No, I think

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:44.280
<v Speaker 1>dying when the time is right, dying in uh violent

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 1>accident is probably the most painless thing that could ever

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 1>happen to you, because well, you know how many times

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I've been hurting my life from you thing, And you

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>never feel it when you get hurt. You feel it

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>when you're recovering, But at the time you're hurt, you

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.040
<v Speaker 1>have no earthly idea. I didn't I didn't know, I

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.959
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a thought in my mind. And so then

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>he finally gets down here. I'm just you know, the

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:10.319
<v Speaker 1>whole way down I'm hitting and kicking, and so did

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you think you were going to die? Why so you

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 1>weren't thinking this thing is gonna kill me? I'm freaking out,

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>You're not brave. You're not anything. You're just again prehistoric

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:28.359
<v Speaker 1>dinosaur ancestral survival. You're not gonna I don't want you

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 1>to bite me money. And I never thought of kill, really,

0:41:33.360 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I just thought, whatever you're doing, So you didn't think

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>what I thought. I thought, whatever that shark is doing.

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go do something else, and I want

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to go do something else. Get the road. Yeah, we've

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 1>we've we've done. We've had enough of this. Were you

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 1>worried I was gonna bite your arm off or your

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>face off? You don't even think about that. It's not

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 1>a thought. That's crazy. You don't have time to think.

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I like I said, I don't think a thought got

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.040
<v Speaker 1>to my brain. I've got so much room and my

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 1>head from now on to put new things in because

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:06.439
<v Speaker 1>I think it cleared it completely. I don't think there's

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 1>a thought in there. So then I remember on the

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>way up, you know, now we're separating. You pushed it away,

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.880
<v Speaker 1>you've dropped it well, the spears going down, and I

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:19.919
<v Speaker 1>think that's why, possibly when it went down on my leg,

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>because it's following that fish down. So now we're separated,

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and I remember thinking, this guy can swim a hundred

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>times faster than me. There's no sense in me swimming fast.

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 1>So I just kinda swam raised me up to the water,

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.280
<v Speaker 1>thinking I'm gonna be relaxed, and if he hits me again,

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I'll be ready for you rather than just being in

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a frantic I'll be prepared as much as you can.

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 1>So I got to the surface even and just felt

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>this total sense of calm. I was not frantic. I

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 1>was you know, Sharon hates me to say this, but

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I think I was really chuckling, sankling. I don't know.

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking something and I don't know what it was,

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>but it was just like it was almost surreal. Yeah.

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, for some reason, anytime I take a mad

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 1>mountain football or something like that. A lot of times

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>after mountain bike fall, I usually am kind of chuckling

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:22.839
<v Speaker 1>after I get up and that you made it through.

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:27.919
<v Speaker 1>You don't really know. It's almost funny because this really

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>traumatic thing happened. You kind of just laughed. I wasn't

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 1>worried about it coming up and get me. You know,

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:38.399
<v Speaker 1>they're just everywhere, and so Lincoln the boat guide with this,

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>you know that we've been going out with in this

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>beautiful meloded Bahamian voice. They all kind of sing when

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>they talk, and it always and he barked, Steve, I

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 1>think he's been bit, in his classic understated way getting

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the boat, and so I swim the ten yards to

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.359
<v Speaker 1>the boat. At that point I kick in and I say, hey,

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 1>we made it this far. I think I'll motor on

0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 1>over there. Yeah, get the shoot her in And then

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>pulled hoisted myself over the top. And Will was funny

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>after that. He said, I didn't reach down to grab

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you because I wasn't sure if you had any hanging limbs. Truly,

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>what if your army fallen off. Nobody knows knows, and

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. So I sit in the boat and uh,

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.680
<v Speaker 1>we go into triage mode and Will has taken these

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 1>courses and stuff, and so he comes back and he's

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:35.320
<v Speaker 1>looking at they course blood just everywhere. Luckily nothing was pulsing,

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 1>which would have indicated arterial damage and there was none

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 1>of that was just bleeding and just boat blood and

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 1>leg and all over my face and yeah, it's in

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 1>my eyes. So I didn't know if I'd got bitten

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 1>in the eye or you don't know anything, and my

0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 1>face is known, so I don't know if it's when

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 1>we saw it. Your whole lip was hanging off. Mean,

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you got a stitch back on. Great, but I mean

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 1>your face was like hanging on. It was interesting for sure,

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and so will you know? He said he was good.

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:13.880
<v Speaker 1>And he said, are you in shocked? And I said no.

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>He said, you have the chills. He knew what the

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 1>sentive work, and I did too, and I said, no,

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm coherent, don't feel dizzy, don't think I'm gonna faint.

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel pretty good overall. I mean, you're like the

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>only shark survivor who's just totally calm. So he says,

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>you want me to take a photo of you so

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 1>you can see and I said, I might as well

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 1>get it over with. Go ahead, And so he took

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:41.280
<v Speaker 1>a photo and you know, my face was not gone.

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any big pieces missing. My lip was

0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, cut through and hanging down. And I had

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, you said, blood over all over the face,

0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>but I could tell that it was something that could

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:58.600
<v Speaker 1>be put back together. And UH was really relieved about that.

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, the first thought is man, and you've got

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of blood on your face, But all in all,

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I was happy that the big pieces were there and

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 1>there weren't any big pieces missing, and so, oh, this

0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>was funny. We all got the boat by we always

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 1>uh rent from Wade Cash which is Sunset H Marna

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and boat Rental, and the boat Sharon loves it because

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the boats were always in top condition. They've got the

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 1>everything's brand new, the GPS works, the radios are brand new.

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:39.319
<v Speaker 1>They've got more than left brand new life jackets and

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:42.640
<v Speaker 1>so of course he had a fantastic first aid kit.

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>So Will takes out a bottle of alcohol. It's about

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>like that. He said, here's Steve, you want me to

0:46:48.920 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 1>pour this on your face? And I said, They're gonna

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>be a number of things happening today, but you pouring

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:57.399
<v Speaker 1>that out on my faith is not one of them.

0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:59.879
<v Speaker 1>Are my knee? He said? I said, are my need?

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I said, I will take my chances with infection. So

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:05.080
<v Speaker 1>we had a little chuckle about that. Then you get

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>to the island and we got to think about what

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>are we going to tell y'all? Oh, and Will said, okay,

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I gotta call the girls and tell them we're coming in,

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>because you know they'll kill us if we don't say something.

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 1>So he said, what am I gonna say? We thought

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>for a minute. I said, well, you don't want to

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>tell somebody that's gotta wait. We're thirty minutes out. You

0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 1>don't want to tell somebody Steve just got bit in

0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:30.439
<v Speaker 1>the face by a shark and I've gotta waite thirty

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.800
<v Speaker 1>minutes six. So I said, why don't you tell him?

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I ran into something sharp on the coral reef and

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:42.080
<v Speaker 1>we're going in to get me a stitch. Oh, And

0:47:42.160 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Catherine says, oh, well, just bring him in and dump

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 1>him off and we'll bring him home and you and

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Marcus and I mean you and Lincoln go back experience.

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:52.359
<v Speaker 1>He said, no, We've had a good day, and never

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 1>stay here. He never calls spearing early because he loves

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>it so much. When he called it, we knew something

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 1>was up for like something's but we're going on because

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>bumped into something sharp. I sharp. That was so Mom

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and I get to the clinic when Dad shows up

0:48:10.080 --> 0:48:13.279
<v Speaker 1>and his face is falling off, Mom and are freaking out.

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 1>We don't believe you because you that video which will

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:20.439
<v Speaker 1>do is the classic, which that is the classic, which

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:24.760
<v Speaker 1>nobody's seeing but us, and it is one for the ages.

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just so well, Dad tells us his shark, he's

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:31.000
<v Speaker 1>faced a bit by a shark. And you have been

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 1>known to be a tall talor sometimes when I know

0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>everything is okay to add color to your story, exaggerate

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 1>or makeup tall tale. So Dad's like, oh, yeah, I

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 1>got hit by a shark and Mom and the're like, no,

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 1>do you didn't. And Mom mused for a few choice words,

0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:49.919
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, tell me the truth. He was looking

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>at Will and she's looking at Lincoln, And because she

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>knows all of us have been inclined when everything's okay

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.399
<v Speaker 1>to kind of go in to your fix, she said,

0:48:57.400 --> 0:48:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you tell me the truth with a lot of choice

0:48:59.320 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 1>working there. Yeah, I'm like a flubbering idiot. It was

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Did a great job in nurse. She'd never

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>done anything anyway. So we go in and we just

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:11.839
<v Speaker 1>I sit down and you know, by then, I've seen

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.359
<v Speaker 1>the photo. I know that in much time. We go

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>five minutes. Okay, we get to the clinic and they

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.760
<v Speaker 1>call the nurse in. It's about the size of this

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:26.279
<v Speaker 1>thing right here. It's not big. It's open air. And

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the nurse comes in on Saturday, named Shakira, and she's

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:33.879
<v Speaker 1>pretty adorable because she looks at me and she said,

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna ship you to the mainland. And I said,

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I said what mainland. I didn't know she sent green Church.

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know she met Treasure or this. I said, no,

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>you can do this. Your coach goes in. She said, no, no,

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing this. And so we go back in,

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 1>get on the table and she looks at me and

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 1>she said, I gotta make a call here he gets

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I said, Shakira, we can do this, and so should

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:02.480
<v Speaker 1>you take sharing any other him? And and she tells

0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:05.439
<v Speaker 1>Sharon that she's about to have a panic attach. She said,

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I've done some stitching, but I've never done a shark.

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 1>But said, we need to take him to the mainland.

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Chances now you can do this that he does lots

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:15.799
<v Speaker 1>of surgery and y'all get through it together. The thing

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I liked about it was it was so clean. It

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>was open air. You're not dealing with a lot of

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the issues that you're dealing with in a big hospital.

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.560
<v Speaker 1>And I knew I was going to get there was

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 1>nobody else there. I was going to get her undivided attention.

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'm a guy. And she said that you actually

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 1>kept her calm. Well, but that's what I said. I'm

0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 1>a guy in any mail, you're crazy stars place to

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:49.560
<v Speaker 1>have that edgy look. You know you're crazy. You mean

0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the thing that a few scars like, Well, I've already

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 1>got the cute girl. What wants to do? So anyway,

0:50:57.440 --> 0:51:01.320
<v Speaker 1>she sewed it up, did a wonderful job sailing it,

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 1>disinfected it with iodine, stitched it up with proline suiture.

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I knew exactly what she was done. As we went through.

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:13.400
<v Speaker 1>She'd take photos and send them to the doctor, the

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:17.759
<v Speaker 1>medical doctor on the mainland wherever that was, and then

0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>both she and I would talk to the medical doctor.

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Gave me a technics shot, put me on antibiotics for

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:25.640
<v Speaker 1>five days, which we happen to have with us, but

0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:30.200
<v Speaker 1>they sent some more over. So all in all, I mean,

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>as far as having a shark bite to the face,

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't have gotten out better. And now you do

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you have that, Jason. Here's one of my granddaughter, Genevieve.

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Interestingly enough, my Sharon's grandmother name is Lovey. My grandmother

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>my grandfather name that Sharon, Catherine and Caroline figured out

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>is lucky. I've always been so lucky, and I'm so

0:51:54.360 --> 0:51:57.319
<v Speaker 1>lucky to have them. So as luck would have it,

0:51:57.400 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 1>when it bit me right there, the plast excited my

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 1>mask stopped it and I had a big dive knife

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 1>right here with a big handle. So when it bit

0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 1>me on the knee, got me on both sides, it

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:16.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't tear either place. It hit the hard metal or

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Speaker 1>plastic apparently, and let up rather than complete the bite

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and tear set out. So you've truly lived into your name. Lucky, lucky,

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and that shark to be in good spirits about it all.

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:31.919
<v Speaker 1>Most people probably freaking out losing years off their life,

0:52:31.920 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 1>but not you. What have you learned from it all?

0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 1>So much of life is about timing and luck. And

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I read an article one time in the paper about

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a guy about a boat falling out of an airplane

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and hitting a gun in the head and killing. Well,

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 1>how random is that? And so, like I said at

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, you don't want to be stupid, but you

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:54.880
<v Speaker 1>definitely I want to take a few chances. It's funny

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that I asked my ninety six year old grandmother Memmi

0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 1>one time. Uh, I was just talking to I said, Mammie,

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 1>if you had to do it, differently, what would you

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:08.120
<v Speaker 1>what would you do? And she looked at me and

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:10.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't bad enough, and she said I would have taken

0:53:10.880 --> 0:53:15.880
<v Speaker 1>more chances. Really, so you looked like that. So I

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:18.040
<v Speaker 1>like to wrap up with leave your light, which is

0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:21.600
<v Speaker 1>leave inspiration, how codes you live by it? And something

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to inspire people buy or something inspires you,

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>which ties it well to a sharp fight rock and roll.

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:33.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, just just decide that life is a good thing,

0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that it's fun and you're gonna enjoy it, and uh,

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, be the best you can at what you do.

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 1>And somebody's always as far as making living, somebody's always

0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna want what you do if you're really good at it.

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:51.520
<v Speaker 1>That's by motivating things. Not I've never thought about making

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a living. I've just thought about be the best at

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 1>what I do and somebody's always gonna want that. Or

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:02.319
<v Speaker 1>if not have island plan, and the island plan is

0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:06.239
<v Speaker 1>up for us has always been if dentistry ever didn't

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.399
<v Speaker 1>work out, we just come to the Bahama's an open

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:11.959
<v Speaker 1>little dive shop, and you know, I'm not gonna jump

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>off a cliff, so that that would be my My

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<v Speaker 1>leave is this is the best time you could possibly

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<v Speaker 1>be alive. You've got more opportunity, more things you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Just take advantage of it. And done. A little shark

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<v Speaker 1>bite holds you back, Try to be a good person.

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<v Speaker 1>Tip big, you know, don't don't focus on yourself. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's it. I think Lucky is a fitting

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<v Speaker 1>name for you. Done, and we're writing a book. I

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<v Speaker 1>got bit in a shark. I got bit in the

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<v Speaker 1>face by a six ft shark. Because that is something,

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<v Speaker 1>a tale that needs to be told. So you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>looking for it. It's going to be a news stands

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<v Speaker 1>next year. You have been talking about this, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't see why people might be. It's happening a little interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>So everyone be prepared for that. Oh you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>one other thing. I have a whole new appreciation for

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 1>social media because you went viral. It was never intended

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<v Speaker 1>to be that way. You know, you you you think

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<v Speaker 1>about when you go home. You can't just show up

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<v Speaker 1>with your face bitten by shark. You've got to let

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<v Speaker 1>your family and friends know. And so Caroline and Sharon

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<v Speaker 1>and Catherine just posted on their webs, on their what, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>instagrambok that this had happened. Well Julie Hayes was the

0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 1>wake Up, was a TV anchor, was one of Caroline's friends.

0:55:36.040 --> 0:55:38.960
<v Speaker 1>She called Caroline, I wanted to talk to me, talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Boom. That one got picked up by everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we've been talking to people from Norway, London

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<v Speaker 1>and the capital of this the State Department. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>but that my message, my leave messages. It's not the

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<v Speaker 1>shark's fault. Don't be afraid sharks. That shark was doing

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<v Speaker 1>its job. We have to have sharks to clean up

0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the ocean, to get rid of dead and injured fish.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was just strictly a timing thing. We were

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<v Speaker 1>in his environment and it worked out that way. So uh,

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<v Speaker 1>people should never be afraid of just snorkeling in the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically it's clear water and if you're spear fishing, just

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<v Speaker 1>be respectful and pay attention. Steve Lucky Cutbirth survived the

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<v Speaker 1>shark back to the face. Thanks dad, You're welcome, all

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<v Speaker 1>right by favorite interview. Hey, thanks you, my favorite dad. Carolave.

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 1>She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man.

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<v Speaker 1>She's on the inside. So you got the scoop on

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<v Speaker 1>the walls, on the lawns to side, no one can

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<v Speaker 1>do win quiet my Carola, Carola, I hope that you

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<v Speaker 1>loved hearing from my dad. I still can't believe that

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:00.680
<v Speaker 1>he got bit in the face by a shark. Like

0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I can't process it. Sometimes I'm like what, and You're fine?

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<v Speaker 1>And what. I love him so much. He's an incredible father.

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:09.960
<v Speaker 1>He's an incredible man, and I think he has so

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<v Speaker 1>much advice and wisdom. I'm so glad he got to share.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week, I have Tony Brown. This dude is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest producers producers in music period. He is

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<v Speaker 1>considered the founding father of alternative Americana country. He has

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<v Speaker 1>had over forty years in the music business, over a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred number one songs and over a hundred million album

0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 1>sales he has been a part of. He has produced Reba,

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<v Speaker 1>Bence Gill, George, Straight, Bricks and Dunne, Tricia Yearwood, Rodney

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Crowd and name a few. He's incredible. He's won a

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Grammy and he's so so sweet and interesting, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>writing a book talking about all of his experiences with

0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 1>all these pictures, with these greats. He also played in

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis's band What and Emmy Lou Harris's band, he played piano.

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<v Speaker 1>So y'all get excited for Tony Brown next week. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna want to miss it. BELTL