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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, it's Kaylie Shore and this is too much

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Speaker 1: to say questions turning it out you, So I have

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Speaker 1: to be honest and tell you guys that I have

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Speaker 1: been procrastinating doing this episode because it makes me really

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Speaker 1: it's very difficult for me to talk about, but I'm

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Speaker 1: going to do it because I feel like this is

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Speaker 1: part of my purpose. And um, there's so many things

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Speaker 1: though I'm very close to the situation. So I've I've

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Speaker 1: even learned a lot of new things this week, so

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Speaker 1: I want to share them with you guys. But UM,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be talking about the opioid crisis and

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Speaker 1: specifically ventyl um. I have discussed this on the podcast before, obviously,

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Speaker 1: and most of you guys know if you listen to

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Speaker 1: my music or the podcast, you know that I lost

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Speaker 1: my sister UM to a accidental ventyl overdose in January

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Speaker 1: in March of this past year. So ah, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's just fucking hard. But I feel like I've been

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Speaker 1: given a platform where I'm bus enough that people listen,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like I can actually make a difference. Um.

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Speaker 1: But it does involve me kind of putting on my

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Speaker 1: But basically this all started like a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I made a funny tweet, um, because everything starts with

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Speaker 1: and we are back. So fundamentals, what is vanyl Fentanyl

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Speaker 1: But fenton al specifically was developed in the late fifties

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Speaker 1: I'm going to read you a letter to Governor Rohnd

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Speaker 1: to Santa US that Casey's dad wrote, and it's really powerful.

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Speaker 1: And if any of you guys listen and live in Florida,

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Speaker 1: So all of that being said, this is from Caseta,

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Speaker 1: Dear Governor to Santis, I am writing you again about

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Speaker 1: the fentinyl epidemic that is plaguing our nation. In the

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Speaker 1: great state of Florida. There were over eight thousand deaths

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Speaker 1: from overdoses in Florida alone. The vast majority over are

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Speaker 1: caused by fentanyl. The Medical Examiner's offices in the state

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Speaker 1: are various types of fentanyl far more deadly. I s

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Speaker 1: O twenty times stronger than finyl, hundred times two thousand

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Speaker 1: times stronger than morphine, car fentyl a hundred times stronger

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Speaker 1: than fentanyl, ten thousand times stronger than morphine. Any of

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Speaker 1: these three drugs half the size of a grand of

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Speaker 1: rice will kill a person. This is personal for me.

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Speaker 1: My daughter, Casey Bouchard, twenty seven years old, died March

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Speaker 1: in Lake Worth, Florida. Casey was poisoned with a mixture

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Speaker 1: Casey graduated from Curry College in Boston, Massachusetts. After graduating

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Speaker 1: high school, she helped start an orphanage in Victoria Falls, Zimbabwe.

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Speaker 1: Casey had her RBT registered Behavioral therapist license from Florida

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Speaker 1: while in elementary school through to high school, she volunteered

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Speaker 1: at the local soup kitchen feeding the homeless. Casey knew

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Speaker 1: almost every homeless person on the streets of Portland, made

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Speaker 1: by their first name Casey had a test kit Fentinel

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Speaker 1: test trips, she could have known that she what she

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Speaker 1: had contained poison and she might be alive. Today, Florida

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Speaker 1: does not allow the test trips to be sold in

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Speaker 1: the state. No manufacturer will even ship them to Florida

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Speaker 1: doing to due to the law here making them illegal.

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Speaker 1: I'm requesting you reconsider this law. Certainly it is not

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Speaker 1: advocating for drug use that is helping save lives. My

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Speaker 1: request a changed a lot and allow fentinyl test kits

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Speaker 1: in Florida be changed the criminal sentencing laws on dealing

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Speaker 1: fentinyl to a much higher sentence and closing, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: I've been closed in photos of Casey and pictures of

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Speaker 1: fentinyl test kits. Sincerely, yours, Peter Bouchard. It just sucks.

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Speaker 1: It just freaking sucks. Um. I really feel called to

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Speaker 1: do this, and I'm really thankful that because I'm a singer,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Fox News is the number one news station

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean not know how many people there,

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Speaker 1: test trips. Message me and also a great great resource,

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Speaker 1: especially if you live in southern California. UM. They do

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Speaker 1: and just like provide educational stuff that you can read online.

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Speaker 1: But end Overdose their instagram is end dot Overdose and

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Speaker 1: their nonprofit. They're really amazing they provide an ARCAN training online.

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Speaker 1: That's like the next step in what I want to

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Speaker 1: And they also have really great stuff that you can

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Speaker 1: so much for listening. I really appreciate it. And I

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Speaker 1: to lose someone to an overdose, I'm so sorry and

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Speaker 1: I'm sending you a hug through your headphones right now. UM,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. I'm KAILI shure this is

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Speaker 1: too much to say, don't go ask me questions, So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say, now turn it out. You