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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another edition of Club Shasha. I am

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Speaker 1: your host, also the proprietor of Club Shasha, and the

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Speaker 1: guy that's coming by today for drinks and conversation is

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Speaker 1: a five time pro bowler, a three time First Team

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Speaker 1: All Pro. He was the two thousand and ten Defensive

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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. He's a member of the twenty

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Speaker 1: ten All Decade Team, and now, last, but not least,

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Speaker 1: he's a Super Bowl champ in Dominican. Sit all my life,

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Speaker 1: running all my life, sacrifice, hustle, back price, one slice

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Speaker 1: got the brown dice swathing all my life. I've been

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Speaker 1: grinding all my life, all my life, running all my life, sacrifice, hustle,

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Speaker 1: back price, one slice got the dice swathing all my life.

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Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life and Dominican. How does

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champ sound now? Uh? It sounds amazing, truthfully,

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Speaker 1: one of my last steps in my career to achieve

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Speaker 1: super blessed to received a bunch of different individual accolades

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Speaker 1: as Pro Bowls and All Pros and like you said,

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Speaker 1: all decade teams. So to be able to get a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl in my eleventh season, it's long overdue. That's

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It sounds different, it hit different when they

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Speaker 1: when they saying they used to say, well, he's a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player, he's an All Pro this or that.

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Speaker 1: But when they say now and Domin can flee super

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Speaker 1: Bowl yep, super Bowl champion, that's that's a that's a

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Speaker 1: great ring to it, without question. So let's start with

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Speaker 1: this with this season. Let's just start at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the season, well, the offseason, because you see it

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Speaker 1: a shock way through because Tom Brady decided to come

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Speaker 1: to Tampa. When you heard the news that Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: had decided as a free agent to choose Tampa, what

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Speaker 1: was the first thing that went through your mind. I

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Speaker 1: think the first thing for me thinking about Tom coming

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Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay was at one, I was still a

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Speaker 1: free agent, so a hell of a job for him,

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Speaker 1: and having tunity to get down to Tampa and them

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Speaker 1: doing a great job in Jason Light, and then the

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Speaker 1: ability for myself to get signed a week or so later,

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Speaker 1: and knowing that majority of our front seven was coming

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Speaker 1: back intact. I was excited about that, knowing that he's

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Speaker 1: a type of elite quarterback that's going to give us

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Speaker 1: rest and time to make plays, and obviously become an

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Speaker 1: elite defense as we became. So you get there, the

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Speaker 1: pandemic heads. So you're not gonna it's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: a conventional lot season. You're not gonna have the OTAs,

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna have the mini camps. A lot of

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Speaker 1: things are gonna be zoomed. So you get down there,

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Speaker 1: you get the training camp, and you start practicing. Did

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Speaker 1: you like, hold on, we might have something special here. Yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: when we got into camp and to the COVID and

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Speaker 1: the whole off season was definitely thrown out of the window.

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Speaker 1: And then we obviously get into camp and understand where

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Speaker 1: we wanted to accomplish. I've said being a super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: but there was a ton of work ahead of time,

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Speaker 1: so we needed to move forward, kind of move things

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Speaker 1: and hyperer vote mode to just and adapt to all

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Speaker 1: the different changes, protocols and whatnot. And we were going

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Speaker 1: to be a challenging season nonetheless, but it was great

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Speaker 1: because it made us that much more closer. We spent

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Speaker 1: more time on our off time together with everybody. So

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Speaker 1: I think it was a great situation for us. And

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Speaker 1: even though it was difficult, it was a lot more

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Speaker 1: difficult for other people. And we just needed to kind

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Speaker 1: of focus in and dive into our particular task and

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Speaker 1: be successful. You start the season, you get off on

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Speaker 1: a good stretch. I think you start the season six

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Speaker 1: the middle of the season, you lose three straight and

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Speaker 1: then you catch fri When did you know you had

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Speaker 1: something special in tama I think we've always thought that

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Speaker 1: we had something special, But there were some key moments

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Speaker 1: when we were down but I think it was twenty

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Speaker 1: the season, we knew that we couldn't give these games,

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Speaker 1: that we couldn't relax. Even though we knew that team

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Speaker 1: And then truthfully, as we got into the playoffs, just

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Speaker 1: And really that's what we started to do, started to

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Speaker 1: that was what I think our bye week really allowed

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Speaker 1: us to do. We got to review our tape and

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Speaker 1: see the good bad and really the ugly of our defense.

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Speaker 1: Make those changes and we found ways to be successful.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people point to the turning point of

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Speaker 1: your season is when you played Kansas City, who you

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Speaker 1: later faced into Super Bowl. In avenge that loss, you

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Speaker 1: got down seventeen nothing. Tyreek goes for two hundred and

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Speaker 1: nine and three touchdowns. Patrick Mahomes seemed to could do

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Speaker 1: no wrong. What did you learn from that game that

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Speaker 1: helped you in the Super Bowl? Just completely dismantled that offense.

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Speaker 1: It's as simple as this, don't spot people of seventeen points.

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Speaker 1: We can be in the game. Let alone, we can

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Speaker 1: stop people because, like you said, we gave them in

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Speaker 1: a lot of ways seventeen points. Granted they earned it,

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Speaker 1: they got a great elite talent over there, but at

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Speaker 1: the same time, we had so many mistakes as as

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Speaker 1: a defense. We in essence didn't even put up a

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Speaker 1: fight for those seventeen points, right and transition and going

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Speaker 1: to that second half, and we end up losing that

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Speaker 1: game by three points. And it was really from a

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Speaker 1: factor of we didn't have enough time. So if we

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Speaker 1: go knowing that we're playing them in the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and we had two weeks. I mean, coach Bowls is

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Speaker 1: gonna put up an amazing plan and that's obviously what

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Speaker 1: he did, and all we need to do out there

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Speaker 1: needed to do is go out there and execute. When

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Speaker 1: you look at the game plan, that was con totally conventioned.

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Speaker 1: You guys are not a Cover two team. You guys

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Speaker 1: are pressure single house safety team, come get people. You

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Speaker 1: still came and got him, But basically you lined up

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Speaker 1: and cover two, you put hand, You played the show.

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Speaker 1: You let the Vonte David play a boxing one on

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Speaker 1: Jason Kell's, Travis Kel's excuse me, and you guys eat

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Speaker 1: you get eight You JPP Shaq Barrett, you be the Bayer.

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Speaker 1: When you looking at this game play left hold on,

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna play cover two. We're Nickel defense. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna run us out of this. What were you thinking

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Speaker 1: when when Todd put the game playing up and you

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Speaker 1: see we're playing Nickel defense and we're playing Cover two

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Speaker 1: with false shale. Normally teams try to run you out

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Speaker 1: of that defense. Yeah, being in a six man, six

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Speaker 1: to take care of the run game right, to get

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Speaker 1: after the past. I'm salvating at the mouth because I

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Speaker 1: know the whole game plans on us up front right

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Speaker 1: merely myself, interioror guys. So let's call it what it is.

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Speaker 1: The pressures on y'all. Y'all either gonna get the job done,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna get the job done. And that's really

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Speaker 1: how we wanted. And that's the one thing I respect

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Speaker 1: about coach Bolls. He understands from the standpoint of saying,

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Speaker 1: like I understand who my hosts are understanding where we

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Speaker 1: may need to make some changes and put ourselves in

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Speaker 1: a better situation from the coverage perspectives. But then we

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Speaker 1: moved to our defensive line. You got myself JPP bet

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Speaker 1: will ghost and all the all the guys in our room,

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Speaker 1: y'all go win this game for us. And really I

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Speaker 1: love that situation because that's what I grew up in

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Speaker 1: my first five six years when I was in Detroit

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Speaker 1: to the front four in the front seven for y'all.

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Speaker 1: To shut down the run and create havoc. And then

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Speaker 1: obviously the secondary is gonna come into play. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: put their hands on receivers and make plays. And that's

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Speaker 1: what they did. But then they kind of play into

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Speaker 1: your hand because you know they do what they do.

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Speaker 1: They throw the football. They don't really run the football there.

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Speaker 1: You like, you know what they're gonna try to. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna try to beat us at our street. They're like,

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Speaker 1: they're a number one rush team with a number one,

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Speaker 1: number two passing team. We ain't gonna throw the ball.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna show them. So they kind of fed into

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Speaker 1: what you wanted them to do. Yeah, no question. Watching film,

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Speaker 1: being able to go back watch pretty much the whole

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Speaker 1: the numbers, all those particular details. They want to pass

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Speaker 1: gun sling and have fun. Get Tyreek running down this field.

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Speaker 1: The same thing with Travis Kelsey and all the guys

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Speaker 1: So basically it was you be the Bay and Gholston

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Speaker 1: So now it's your job the three guys inside to

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Speaker 1: collapse the pocket. They don't give him an avenue tool.

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Speaker 1: Step up, ye, no question. And being a veteran being

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Speaker 1: were running games and or baiting him in certain areas.

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Speaker 1: In any right handed quarterback knows that if I'm running

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Speaker 1: And that's what he did earlier on the game. And

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Speaker 1: So the game's going on. You guys go three and out.

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Speaker 1: You guys get the offense, go three and out. You

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Speaker 1: guys get the ball, they get the ball. You forced

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Speaker 1: them to three and out. When did you know in

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Speaker 1: that game that it's gonna be a long day for

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Speaker 1: these guys. It's gonna be very, very difficult for them

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Speaker 1: be even more difficult for them guys to beat us,

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Speaker 1: I would say, knowing in that game pretty early on,

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Speaker 1: probably midway through the first quarter and early into the second,

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Speaker 1: and me and Shack we're on a particular play. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've got a chance to watch

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Speaker 1: all the all the different highlights were you can remember,

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Speaker 1: But I told Shack, I'm gonna cover you on this.

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Speaker 1: Come underneath, do your special spin move, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: come out on the outside. And he got right to

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Speaker 1: my homes and I'm coming full full tilt in my home.

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Speaker 1: Just throws it out off the sideline. And for me,

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Speaker 1: that was a real tell tale to say, all right,

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Speaker 1: we got them right where we want to. We can

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Speaker 1: rush and straight, we can run our games, and we

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Speaker 1: can create havoc as we as we particularly choose and play.

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Speaker 1: I watched, you know, obviously with Tom being in Tampa,

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Speaker 1: we see a lot of Tampa games. But correct me

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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. In Dominican it seems to me that

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Speaker 1: you got stronger in the playoffs. Your play I mean

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Speaker 1: a sac and a half. It was just like you

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Speaker 1: were like you look like the Detroit and Dominican fu

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Speaker 1: those four games in the playoffs. Ye no, I think

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Speaker 1: when I look at it from a standpoint, it's a

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Speaker 1: long season that's very grueling. You're dealing with injuries, dealing

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Speaker 1: was raised really well and that translates off the field.

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00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: On the field, I've had some high emotions and take

432
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Speaker 1: full accountability to those things. But at the same time

433
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Speaker 1: I play. We played a very aggressive and dominating sport

434
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Speaker 1: and I always want to impose my will and so

435
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play right up to the edge. And I

436
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: think as you look throughout my career, I've continued to

437
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 1: increase and get better and better at that, and the

438
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: NFL sees that I've been within the lines and remain

439
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 1: in the lines, and there's no issue. So I think

440
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Speaker 1: for me. Some people are gonna love me, some people

441
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: are gonna hate me. But I'm gonna continue to play

442
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: at a high level. And that's where my focus is.

443
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: When when you when you're when you're when you're right there,

444
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Speaker 1: how do you know, like, well, if I do this,

445
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: because there have been times I'm sure you know as

446
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: a defensive player, you really can maame an offensive player

447
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Speaker 1: if you really want to, So you know you could

448
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Speaker 1: you like I could? You just don't know I could

449
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: really do something bad to you right now. But I'm

450
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Speaker 1: let it go. I'm just gonna I'm just gonna bring

451
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Speaker 1: it because when I watch you and Doma, can you

452
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: barely how to wrap the quarterback up? You normally shiver him.

453
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Speaker 1: You're like you like I want you to feel these bowls.

454
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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna drop my weight on you because they're

455
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Speaker 1: gonna say personal five. They're gonna find me twenty five

456
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Speaker 1: fifty five dollars. I'm just going knocking the you know

457
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Speaker 1: what out of you. Yeah, I tell quarterbacks that I'm

458
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: not necessarily friends with but cordial with, maybe just do

459
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Speaker 1: my favor and go down to the ground when I'm

460
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Speaker 1: near you. I have no desire to hurt you. I

461
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: just want to do my job the ground, trying to

462
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Speaker 1: punch the ball out, and if I can't do it

463
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Speaker 1: because you're wrapping it up, I don't like being on

464
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Speaker 1: the ground. I understand sometimes I gotta go to the ground,

465
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Speaker 1: but I'm trying to be upright and run through you.

466
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Speaker 1: Move on to the next place where I go do

467
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Speaker 1: it again. And so with the question, obviously, like you mentioned,

468
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Speaker 1: the rules of change protecting the quarterbacks can't go low,

469
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: can't go high, and can't land your weight on them.

470
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Speaker 1: So my best thing is I've been blessed with a

471
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Speaker 1: lot of strength, so I can push you as hard

472
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Speaker 1: as I can to the ground where we can go

473
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: from there. You like the monetary side of playing in

474
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: the two thousands, but you really love the eighties and

475
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: nineties to style of football where you can really impose

476
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Speaker 1: your will, because, as you said, defense is about imposing

477
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Speaker 1: your will, it's about breaking another man's will. Yeah, that's

478
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Speaker 1: what all the old heads told me that I'm connected

479
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Speaker 1: with and had a good conversation with. I said, man,

480
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Speaker 1: you play like us, And really I take great pride

481
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: in that. When they tell me that, I mean they

482
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Speaker 1: paid homage, and I want to pay homage to them

483
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Speaker 1: and continue to carry on their legacies and just saying

484
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Speaker 1: like I'm really doing this from the standpoint is I

485
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Speaker 1: want to be elite. I want to be the best,

486
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Speaker 1: but I also respect the game. Grunt comes back out

487
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Speaker 1: of retirement after year he was doing the WWE. A

488
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Speaker 1: B was going through some legal issues. At the time

489
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Speaker 1: he comes in. Leonard Fournette had jump that had gotten

490
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Speaker 1: released by the Jacks. And those are the guys that

491
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Speaker 1: score all your touchdowns in the Super Bowl. Obviously when

492
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Speaker 1: you signed, when you signed a B, because he's probably

493
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Speaker 1: the guy that's coming with the most baggage, what was

494
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Speaker 1: your fault process and what was he like in the

495
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: locker room? What's he got there? And I've known A

496
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Speaker 1: B for a long time. You guys were in the

497
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: same draft together, the same draft class and everything. So

498
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Speaker 1: I didn't know him early on his career. It was

499
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Speaker 1: probably like two or three years after we've both been

500
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Speaker 1: in the league that Nike we had these combines and

501
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: things at Nike, So definitely knew him good dude, always

502
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: had great relationship with him, and so for me, it

503
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: was easy. It was like, what's up, bro, how you doing? Man?

504
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: Glad you're a part of team. I know you're super talented.

505
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: This is just the way we like to run things.

506
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 1: Is how BA expects expectations. And obviously BA was very

507
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Speaker 1: public of what his expectations were of a B and

508
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: he followed through. So I give him all the credit

509
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Speaker 1: for doing that. And I think that's really all he

510
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: needed is to understand what was expected of him. And

511
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Speaker 1: that's really ninety percent of the people in the world.

512
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Speaker 1: Give me my expectations, what you need for me, and

513
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Speaker 1: then let me go and be an adult. And that's

514
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Speaker 1: really what he did. And also, another guy that was

515
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Speaker 1: in your draft class with JPP, did you ever expect

516
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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't happen happen normally guys that are

517
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, you and JPP were first round draft picks, obviously,

518
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Speaker 1: but that doesn't normally happen that later down the road.

519
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Speaker 1: Here we are eleven years later, you a B and JPP.

520
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: You're on the same team. You want to super Bowl together? Yeah? No,

521
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: that's crazy man, JPP coming in here. Obviously, I tell

522
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: him all the time. But you in the offseason go

523
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Speaker 1: live in a bubba for me. I love you. Just

524
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Speaker 1: go Later in August We're gonna be cool. Everything's gonna

525
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: be fun. And he's a great talent, fun loving dude.

526
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Speaker 1: We enjoyed our time together and obviously making plays and

527
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Speaker 1: a lot of respects for each other, both coming like

528
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Speaker 1: you said, being first round picks. And really he's just

529
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Speaker 1: a special talent. I mean to be gifted the way

530
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Speaker 1: he is, and I'm excited to be able to have

531
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to play with him again and hopefully go

532
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Speaker 1: get another chance to win. What's wrong, like it's grock.

533
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Speaker 1: I mean, we see group you know, spiked the football.

534
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Speaker 1: We see him a fun loving he's like a big

535
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: college frat guys. If he liked that off camera, there's

536
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: no difference to drunk is out to the outside world

537
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: and to us, just a fun loving dude and Joyce

538
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: football loves being really the life of the party. Uh

539
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: and even just sometimes he just wants to just talk

540
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: and have a good conversation. But he's still animated and

541
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: has fun, and I think that's a great thing about him.

542
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: He has a great personality, U and he he shows

543
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: it and it makes play so more power to him.

544
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Speaker 1: I'm watching you guys at the parade. You know, Tom

545
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: makes an terance the way Tom Brady shouldn't make an entrance.

546
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Speaker 1: You pull up on a two million dollars y'all. You

547
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Speaker 1: let everybody know I'm Tom bofol Brady and I'm here.

548
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Speaker 1: And it also seemed like everybody was on that the

549
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: avocado tequila because they was having a good time. They

550
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: were throwing the trophy at B eight. Your ass did

551
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: not go anywhere. You breaking your hands back and you

552
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: braking this with what was what was the parade like?

553
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: What was that like? Knowing that the fifty three guys

554
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Speaker 1: on that roster and the front office, the personnail a

555
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: very diverse group. You got Todd Bowls black difference of coordinator,

556
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: you got Bible leftige black, offensive coordinated, you got Keith Armstrong,

557
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: you got women on the staff. Talk about that moment

558
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: of celebration. You had the parade and you see people

559
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: that on their boats and you guys are just celebrated.

560
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean, truthfully, it was a great moment for that

561
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: entire team to kind of left their hair down just

562
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: to really say, look at what we've been able to

563
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: do to come together in August through all these trials

564
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 1: and tribulations, and granted it's nothing to what the outside

565
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: world has been dealing with. But for us, we went

566
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: through tremendous and we all did it together. We all

567
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: put our own time and energy into this, made all

568
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: these particular sacrifices to get to this moment. Let's truthfully

569
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: enjoy this, and that's what we did as a particular team,

570
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: got on those boats. And I'm telling you, this city

571
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: of Tampa came out and showed out and gave us

572
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: the ultimate love you could ever have for winning the championship.

573
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: And I mean I was a great feeling. I was

574
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Speaker 1: sitting there with my pregnant wife, trying to keep her

575
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Speaker 1: in the shade. She wanted to turn up and have

576
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: shots of water and all types of stuff. So it

577
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: was it was a great time. You mentioned your wife,

578
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: you're expecting twins in the very new future, correct that, sir.

579
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: We're expecting two at the end of the march. So

580
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: do you know boy girl? Two boys? Two girls? We know,

581
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: but we're not telling me about You're not telling that.

582
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: We know the sexes and we know the names. Just

583
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: kind of started finalizing those particular things. I'm excited for

584
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: them to come into the world. And really the biggest

585
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: thing was I wanted them to come into this world

586
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: as champions. So glad I got that done and I'm excited. Well,

587
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: you might have to stick Arid a little longer in

588
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: order for them to understand what Dad does and what

589
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: Dad it was Dad of a company. So you might

590
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: have to stick Arived about four or five more years

591
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: to win a few more of Do you thinks there's

592
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Speaker 1: no question the way I feel right now and the

593
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: way I'm getting ready to start these workouts on Monday,

594
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: I think I definitely got that into me. So I'm

595
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to have you called mister Layton make sure

596
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: he knows that and Dominican. But you know how this

597
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: thing works. You know how free agency is. You know

598
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: when you are a free agent leaving Detroit, Miami back

599
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: to Brinks truck up and said, you sign your name

600
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: to a check. Now you got shock Barrett. Now the

601
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: guys that make the most money or quarterbacks, the next

602
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: guys that make the most money is Edge Rusher's. Jack

603
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: Barrett is the prime in his prime Edge Rusher. Somebody's

604
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: gonna throw a boatload of money. Lavonte David concerning what

605
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: he did with Travis Kelsey. Somebody's gonna throw a boatload

606
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: of money. Chris Godwin, he's a big time receiver in

607
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: his prime. Somebody's gonna throw a boatload of money. And

608
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Speaker 1: Dominican su man that Joe had a second every playoff game.

609
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna throw a boatload of money. What's gonna go

610
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: into your decision of going back to Tampa When somebody said,

611
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Speaker 1: well the Dominican we got two year, three years, that

612
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty six million, and Tampa say, well the Dominican,

613
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: all we got like five or six plat you brought. Yeah,

614
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a situation where I gotta

615
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: sit down with my family what makes the most financial sense.

616
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: But at the same time, where we want to truthfully

617
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: be cold weather, hot weather, all the different things. You

618
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: got out of Tampa. You don't got salt, you don't

619
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: get bad, you don't got so you got out of Tampa. Hey,

620
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: I got family in Minnesota now with my wife, and

621
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: we were just up in negative twenty degree weathers. I've

622
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: dealt with it all, but truthfully, yeah, it's gonna be

623
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Speaker 1: I'm represent my own self, so there's a lot of

624
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: different checks and balances that I go through, contracts and

625
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: all those particular pieces. I've got great, great resources. They

626
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: give me all the data, and I think it really

627
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: when it comes down to, it's any particular team if

628
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: they really want to keep a group together, which the

629
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay team and that ownership did an amazing job

630
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: this past year. So I expect for them to continue

631
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: to do an amazing job and keep us all together

632
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: so we can all continue to grow together and even

633
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: get that much more better and have another opportunity going.

634
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: How long have you been representing yourself? Because the thing

635
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: that I've always got, you know how this thing goes.

636
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: They tell you all the things that you can't do. Well,

637
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: you know you you know we you know, we take

638
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: care of you over here in Dominicant. We don't. You

639
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: don't have to practice on Wednesday and Thursday when you

640
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: let you take half the reps and you know you

641
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: only play at fifty five percent of the snaps and

642
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: you know you're not the same in Dominicant as you

643
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: was in Detroit. You know that's coming. You gotta go

644
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: look at those stats because I definitely don't play fifty

645
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: five percent. I play a lot. No, I'm saying that's

646
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: what they gonna say. Yeah, for sure, and I definitely

647
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: follow that and understand that. I've been looking at I

648
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: represent myself last year in my contract there and I've

649
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: had a great representation that's helped me. At the same time,

650
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: I've always been involved in my conversations. I'm a hands

651
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: on particular person and that's what I do on my

652
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: outside businesses outside of the outside of sports. So definitely

653
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: understand all those nuances, all the different piece that's going

654
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: to go into that. I think we're gonna have some

655
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: good conversations. Actually got a mess for mister Light last night,

656
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: so I'm excited for it. I'm looking forward to the

657
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: opportunities that are going to be afford to me and

658
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: also see what free agency has to offer and really

659
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: kind of go from there, because you always want to

660
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: have negotiating power, you know, not you know how this ends.

661
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: You know when you hit that market, you know it

662
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: ain't no turning back. You know how that goes. It's

663
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: like when they get you into that store, they know

664
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: if they could just get you into the store, you

665
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: know it's over. Yeah, for sure, So I hope get

666
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: to the store. When you talk about Tampa, you won two.

667
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: The Bucks have won two championships, and they did it

668
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: behind dominated suffocating defense in two thousand and two, and

669
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: you guys had a dominating suffocating defense in twenty twenty. Yep,

670
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: who who What's you like? Who you who you like?

671
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh two twenty twenty, Oh day twenty twenty. Always gonna

672
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: bet on myself and bet on the dogs, and I

673
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: know we're with me. And I got totally total respect

674
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: for Derek Brooks and all those guys. Yeah see me ride.

675
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: They had the monster over there, Brooks, I mean food.

676
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: They had a monster, no question. Got a ton of

677
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: report from catching the way they played. And like I

678
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: said before, they paid me the way. But the New Age,

679
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: we found some creative ways to be successful and get

680
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: it done. There covid all the different things they got

681
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: to go party and enjoy their lives. I was stuck

682
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: at home percent of the times. Right, let's let's let's

683
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: go back where it all started from for you in Detroit.

684
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: You're the second pick in the draft, and I thought,

685
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: coming out of college, I thought that you had the

686
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: greatest college season that I had ever seen for a

687
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: defensive player. I thought, I said, you know what, he

688
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: gonna be the first guy to win. He gonna be

689
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: the first defensive player to win the Heisman Trophy. Yep.

690
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: First thing, where you did you think you were gonna

691
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: win the Heisman? Where you disappointed you didn't win the Heisman?

692
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: Because all you gotta do is just go back and

693
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: look at that that big, big twelve championship game against Texas.

694
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: If that's not the greatest defensive performance that ever been

695
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: on tape, I want to see what better. Yeah, without

696
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: a question, I thought I was going to win that

697
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy and I was pissed off when I didn't.

698
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and like you, I was

699
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: still mad that I didn't get an opportunity to win

700
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: that or they saw that I didn't deserve it because

701
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: when ap of the Year got the Lombardi and the Girsky,

702
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: all the differ pieces that are all the elite awards

703
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: and have hold a ton of weight. But I also understand,

704
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: as it is in the NFL offense, all of the

705
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: particular pieces Alabama's first I went Rovey, So I get it.

706
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: I understand it. But I mean I think if you

707
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: put bodies and work together, any anybody, even a blind man,

708
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: could have figured that one out. You started off in

709
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: Detroit and you get off to a great start. I

710
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: think you had ten of a half sacks, defensive Rookie

711
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: of the Year, first team All Pro. What was it

712
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: like in Detroit? And and did you think, like, you

713
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: know what, you're looking around? You got Calvin john you

714
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: got Matthew Stafford on the offensive side, You're like, okay,

715
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: we got a pretty good defense. Did you are you

716
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: disappointed that you didn't win more in Detroit? Yeah? Without question.

717
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: I think the first year was a lot of growing

718
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: pains and kind of getting guys that weren't really built

719
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: for the winning ways and understand how how to win

720
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: and kind of moving that off the locker, keeping a

721
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: core group of guys bringing that winning mentality in which

722
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: I've always expected to win each and every single game.

723
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: And like you said, we got the Calvin Johnson's of

724
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: the world, Matthew Stafford playing out at a high level,

725
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: amongst Petigrews and great defense, Devon Andre Levies, all those

726
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: type of guys, and Kyle Vanabosher. So I look at

727
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: from the standpoint, especially in twenty fourteen when Jim Carbell

728
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: came in there, we should have definitely had a championship

729
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: run at some point in time, and it was definitely

730
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: disappointing that it ended the way it did and I

731
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to play at play more in Detroit,

732
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: but I understand it's a business. I will forever and

733
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: be in debted to that city and I love that

734
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: city to death, and that's why I spend time back there.

735
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean my first I got on the plane right

736
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl parade and my first stop was Detroit.

737
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: So that's how close it is to me, and I

738
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: always love that place. Everybody that that was in Detroit

739
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: or they speak very highly, they speak in glowing terms

740
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: of Jim Calwell. What was it about him? Jim Calwell?

741
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many positive words that I could

742
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: say about him. There's he's just an amazing human being.

743
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: Just the way he carries himself, the way his wife

744
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: carries she carries herself and them as a family, and

745
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: then the way he teaches us and handles us as

746
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: young men and grown men in that particular manner, and

747
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: the way he set up the organization, and I was

748
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: very surprised when he got fired to be the winningest

749
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: coach in that history of that organization. Was definitely disappointed

750
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: to see that. Even though I wasn't there, I'm still

751
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: close to him and reach out to him for guidance

752
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: on certain things and just how things that I need

753
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: to work through. But yeah, Jim Carbell is one of

754
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: the best human beings I've ever been around, especially in football. Okay,

755
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: you you you spend your time in Detroit, things that

756
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: are not going well. You become a free agent. What

757
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: was some of your thought process of when you became

758
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: a free agent? How did you decide to you know,

759
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: end up in Miami. Obviously they but there are a

760
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: lot of teams that throw a boatload of money at

761
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: in Dominican sup. Yeah, there was, And truthfully, Miami wasn't

762
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: the highest. Oakland was Oakland for me a lot higher

763
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: than per year to go there, and I declined to

764
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: go there. And so when I looked at all the

765
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: different situations from a tax perspective, from a playing perspective,

766
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: city weather perspective, a nightlife perspective. For sure, because I'm

767
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: still young looking for my wife even though she was

768
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: right in front of my face and really just looked

769
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: at her. From standpoint of being able to go down

770
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: there and be able to be a cornerstone of the

771
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 1: team and understand that we may be in a little

772
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: bit of a rebuild year, but it wasn't much much

773
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: much of one at all, especially when the next year

774
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: after I had signed there, we go to the playoffs

775
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: and we go and try and make a run in

776
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: in the AFC. So from my standpoint, I just wanted

777
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: all the lines to be a start, all the lines

778
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: to all the starts to be aligned, to excuse me,

779
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: and then be able to have a relationship with the

780
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: ownership group because I learned a ton from mister Ross

781
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: and that front office as well front office as well

782
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: from a business perspective, and I love real estate and

783
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: obviously mister Ross is one of the best in the

784
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: world at that. So is that what you're trying to do,

785
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: Like when you go into a situation, Yes, I'm coming

786
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: here as an employee. Yes I'm coming here to provide

787
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: a service, But it seems to me as I'm if

788
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm reading the team leaves correctly, if I'm reading what

789
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: you're saying correctly, you also try to get close to

790
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: the ownership to see because it seemed like to me

791
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: you like a business a businessman, and you're trying to like, Okay, yeah,

792
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm a millionaire, but I'm trying to get on day

793
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: level they be you. I'm trying to get like that.

794
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: There's no question I'd be sitting here in line if

795
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: I didn't say why not. I don't want, I don't

796
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: need to recreate the wheel. I just want to understand

797
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: and be educated of how they got themselves to that

798
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: particular position and one of the real estate being one

799
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: of my passions and mister Ross owns related in New

800
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: York and being able to have an opportunity to shoutow

801
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: underneath them and learn from them. That was one of

802
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: the best decisions that I made. And the same thing

803
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: when I translated to to move over to LA after

804
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: I left after I got cut from Miami. Were you

805
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: surprised that you got cut? No, I wasn't. To be

806
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: honest with you, I had some inklings and some obviously

807
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: heard the whispers, and me and that head coach were

808
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: not getting along from our perspective of he didn't like me,

809
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: and that's what it really was. Uh, And I guess

810
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: he didn't like the relationship that I had with some

811
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: with certain people, so he had the decision making power

812
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: to make that move and so after that transpired, moved

813
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: to LA. Had an opportunity for a championship there that

814
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: I obviously didn't work out, but I was around my all,

815
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: my mentors, and really a lot of people don't really

816
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: get this. I think when people at their best is

817
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: when they can can partmentalize, and when I'm at my best,

818
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: I can partmentalize. Football is here, businesses here, social life

819
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: is here, and I have all three of those things

820
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: in LA. And I was clean being able to play

821
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: at a very high level, and like you said, playoffs

822
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: turned on. I got to a whole another gear because

823
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: I have my team with me. I had everything that

824
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: I needed to be comfortable in playing at a high level,

825
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: and that's that was exciting to me. So well, clearly,

826
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: the best player that you've ever played alongside of the

827
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: defensive siety is Aaron Donald. Are you surprised that they

828
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: didn't make a pitch to try and keep you. Would

829
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: you have a like to have stayed in LA, because

830
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean you and a d in that interior you

831
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: guys were eating. Yeah, no question. I was a little

832
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: surprised I didn't make an offer the following year, and

833
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: really the previous year, especially when they offered me a

834
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: two or three year deal, and I I was betting

835
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: on myself too obviously be able to get to the

836
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: market and get a bigger and better deal and more

837
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: long term. But like I said, it's a business. I

838
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: understand all those different particular pieces. I got a great

839
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: relationship with the Cronkey family, still speak to them this

840
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: day and have total respect for their decisions and what

841
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: they what they do on that particular offensive team. So

842
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: I wish them the best and less we're playing it.

843
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: And the defensive tackle playing alongside Aaron Donald for a

844
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: year what makes him special. Aaron Donald is one of

845
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: those guys that is has an elite talent from the

846
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: standpoint of his individual piece. He knows how to beat

847
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: guys who knows the different reads. He studies very hard.

848
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: He's an early riser in a late worker. So I

849
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: got a lot of respect for him and his individual

850
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: play and what he's able to do. And I think

851
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: when you put a pair of him with a guy

852
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: like myself, who, like I said, I'm on the older

853
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: age of my side, but I still got great talent

854
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: and I know the better guys that are around me,

855
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: the better they're gonna be the better I'm gonna be,

856
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: and I think that showed out in that particular season. Yeah,

857
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: so you like, okay, a D go get that double team.

858
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: That means I get the one on one with the

859
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: left of the right guard. So you go ahead and

860
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: do your thing, and D you go get that double

861
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: team with the sitting and one of them guys, and

862
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to eat. I'm gonna get to eat

863
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: eat one on one exactly. And then really, when you

864
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: look at you go back and look at that film,

865
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: they started sliding to me and letting him get the

866
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: one on one and trying to you gotta pick your poison,

867
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: who you're gonna who you're gonna take. So that wasation.

868
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: That's really where it is right now. We're trying to

869
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: create in Tampa Bay last year with myself and Vita,

870
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: and then you got the two edged guys. You got

871
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: four hostles you got to deal with unless you're bringing

872
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: in Max protection with chippers and then releasing good luck.

873
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: So okay, let's go. Let's go to college University of Nebraska. Now,

874
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: obviously you had opportunities to go to a lot of

875
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: different places. Why did you choose Nebraska, because the Nebraska

876
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: that you went to wasn't the Nebraska the seventies and

877
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: the eighties and the early nineties. That was a different

878
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: type of Nebraska. Yeah, it was the same thing being

879
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: able to go into Miami in my later career, but

880
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: going into leaving high school and going in to Nebraska,

881
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a part of something special and

882
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: be a cornerstone of that and create that. And so

883
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: that class that came in and know five wous a

884
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: long time was really that that class was to bring

885
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: Nebraska's greatness back and I think that and had top

886
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: defenses and unfortunately didn't be able to get We won

887
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: our division championship a couple of times, but we didn't

888
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: get to We got cheated against Texas as that as

889
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: you alluded to at the time, the time that time expired. Hup.

890
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: They pollowed the clock, I again don't like going to

891
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: the ground, pushed the quarterback out of bounds. Look at

892
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: the clock, it says zero, and then magically a second

893
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: came back and they got to kick a field though,

894
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: so let the outside world make the decision. But I'm

895
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: just saying your senior year eighty five tackles twelve quarterback sacks,

896
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: twenty eight quarterback hurts, twenty four tackles for losses, ten

897
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: pass break up, three block kicks, and an interception. You're

898
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: you're a historian of the game. You know all other

899
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: great defensive players that played in college football? Is that

900
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: the greatest college football season? The fourth defensive player? Uh?

901
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there would be a lot of

902
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: arguments of why not. And when I look at it

903
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: from the standpoint, I'm very proud of it. And at

904
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: the same time, I couldn't been able to do it

905
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: without the Jared Cricks of the world and the Prince

906
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: of Mukamaras and all those guys that I played with,

907
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: And so it's just as much proud as I take

908
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: in that particular season that I had individually. Zach Partter,

909
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: like I said, Jared Krik, Prince of Mukamara, all those

910
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: guys had a huge hand to that. And we were

911
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: a dominant defense. We were holding people the nine points

912
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: a game, except for I think one game against Iowa State,

913
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: which I don't know how, we gave up thirty five

914
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: points to them. So it was it was a great time.

915
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: I love college That state is amazing to me. I

916
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: wish I could get more time to go back there,

917
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: but it's definitely tough. I try and go back and

918
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: also see the Oracle of Omaha as he's a close

919
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: friend of mine. So regardless, I will always cherish those

920
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: days in Nebraska, and in that time, I grew up

921
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: as a young man a lot through those times. Let's

922
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: talk about your home, your hometown, Portland, and growing up.

923
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: What it was like growing up then as compared to

924
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: what you see now with a lot of social unrest,

925
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: a lot of race relations that's not good. What do

926
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: you remember most about growing up in Portland and what

927
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: do you think about what your city is kind of

928
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: warphed into currently. Yeah, I think Portland as I grew up,

929
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: I was kind of been in a shell, and my

930
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: parents did a great job of focusing me just on

931
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: school and athletics and and kind of focus in my

932
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: life from that perspective, so I didn't really get to

933
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: see a lot of the outside world and all the

934
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: trials and tribulations. I've hear about it, have read all

935
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: about those different things. And I think the position that

936
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm in in my life right now, being a professional

937
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: athlete also a businessman and being able to be in

938
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: this community in my particular offseason as a particular choose.

939
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: It's only right for me to give back because this

940
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: community gave me so much to get to where I am.

941
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: I want to be able to get back and help

942
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: other young African American kids and really just kids of

943
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: all races and colors to the opportunity to be successful.

944
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: And that's why I think I've one had my Sioux

945
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: Family Foundation that my wife leads ninety percent of the time,

946
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: and even though I'm very heavy handed into it as well,

947
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: and then even mixing business and my philanthropic endeavor together

948
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: because we're building young black professional housing opportunities here in Portland,

949
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: as well as working with the schools in our backpack programs,

950
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: all the different things that we take pride in. My

951
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: mom's a school teacher, so she's given back thirty plus

952
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: years to the community. Just from a standpoint of that,

953
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: so I take great pride in Portland and I've always

954
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: going to represent it to the best of my ability

955
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: and helped build it up because it's a small city

956
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: compared to Seattle above us in San Francisco below us,

957
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: but it's a very powerful city. At the same time,

958
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: did you always I mean, I mean, obviously you played football.

959
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: Did you play other sports? Did you always want to

960
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: be a professional athlete? Did you always want to be

961
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: a businessman and a professional athlete? Which one kind of

962
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: pulled more than the other. It's interesting. I grew up

963
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: playing soccer since I was three professional in Germany, so

964
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: he instilled me since I came out the womb with

965
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: a soccer ball. Okay, that's what we call the real

966
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: football in my family, as as they call it in Europe.

967
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: And then as I grew up and understood what my

968
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: parents were doing from a standpoint of having rental apartments,

969
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: and that's how you have the ability to go play

970
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: sports because that rental income comes in and that allows

971
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: us to have additional discretionary income to be able to

972
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: do other things and have small travels when my sister

973
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: was in college, to go visit her for a weekend.

974
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: You've got to be smart. You've got to be able

975
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: to put money away and let it grow for you.

976
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: And so my parents were great at that and then

977
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: learning really the hard way, so I didn't have to

978
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: learn the hard way. So I take a lot of

979
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: great pride from them. But at the same time, that's

980
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: where I have great mentors as well to help me

981
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,959
Speaker 1: in my day and age. Is now that my parents

982
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: gave me the basics, but they continue to grow and

983
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: give me other advice as well. So I've always had

984
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: the mindset to be great at sports, but at the

985
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: same time, it's even more important for me to be

986
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: well rounded and be able to use my brain to

987
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: be that much more effective in this particular world. That's

988
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: why I've started a real estate company with a partner

989
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: of mine, one of the best developers and construction companies

990
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: in the Pacific Northwest. And then being able to meet

991
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: with different people like increasing her with General Atlantic from

992
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: VC and pc PE worlds like that's where my mind said,

993
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: and I really start to salvate at the mouth when

994
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at quarterbacks. So you, I mean, I'm

995
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: listening at your talk and obviously are you. Are you

996
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: like this in the locker room? Do guys pick your brain?

997
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: Because there are a lot of times that guys guys

998
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: would pick other guys brain and they're gett into something like,

999
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: hey man, what you're reading, I mean, what you're doing?

1000
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: I mean, how can I do guys pick your brain

1001
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: about your about your your your financial document. Yeah, without question,

1002
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: I become a lot more open, and I guess more

1003
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: comfortable because I'm naturally to introvert. Yes, I can tell

1004
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 1: I've kind of grown into being a little bit more open.

1005
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: So without question, I definitely talked to guys U A

1006
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: big hot topic was the GameStop piece towards the end

1007
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: of the season that we had and throughout the playoffs

1008
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: talk about real estate, all the different things, and really

1009
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: I just trying to give guys the experiences that I've

1010
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: gone through and what I've been to say, there's no

1011
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: right way in a different way to do something. You've

1012
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: got to figure out what's best for you. But I

1013
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: can tell you about my experiences and how I've been

1014
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: able to be successful, how I've made mistakes in some

1015
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: business aspects, because I think that's the best way to learn.

1016
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: You've got to take the calculated risks. But at the

1017
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: same time, I've had mentors tell me don't do this

1018
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: because I think you're gonna do this, but you should

1019
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: also try it because if you fail, you're gonna see

1020
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: and truthfully know why you failed and then be able

1021
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: not to repeat that in the future. But be smart

1022
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: of how much you may invest or do within that,

1023
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: and so I think that's one of the best things

1024
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: about life and experiences and being in the locker room

1025
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: like that, like the NFL, you can share those and

1026
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: see and take great pride because my training partners that

1027
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: I'm with here in the offseason with, I'm even closer

1028
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: with them. And there's guys that played for the Texans

1029
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville this past year, and so it's enjoyable for me.

1030
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: I like to I like to pass on to the

1031
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: younger generation if I can. Has there been something that

1032
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: you like, I want to invest in this and didn't

1033
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: and have it exploded it? Like I'm kicking my own self.

1034
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm kicking my own you know what, because I should have.

1035
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: I should have did it, and I could have been

1036
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand times what it deals right now. Yeah,

1037
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: there's definitely a lot of those that I've passed on,

1038
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: and I think some of the best lessons are some

1039
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: of the best investments that you haven't done because what

1040
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: made you think that's why I should have done it

1041
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 1: or not done it could have been something totally different.

1042
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: And that's where I think I've learned to being able

1043
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: to find some of those pieces. I mean, look at

1044
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: Bitcoin for an example. Everybody's hot about the coin, all

1045
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: these different particular pieces. I had a deep die on

1046
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,479
Speaker 1: bitcoin probably two three years ago, put a little money

1047
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: into it, and if I would have kept it, but

1048
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: I obviously would have five times ten times to where

1049
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: it is now. And I didn't do that. And so

1050
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: for me, I also didn't understand the securities and all

1051
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: the different pieces around it, and it was really just

1052
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: a trial for me to get my feet wet. And

1053
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: so now understanding truthfully where blockchain is and all the

1054
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: different aspects that have going on, there are other opportunities

1055
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: in that same realm that I have opportunities to get

1056
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: involved now. But I'm way more educated and I can

1057
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: take that great experience that I had two three years

1058
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: ago to be able to help me make those decisions.

1059
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: M not saying bitcoin has passed, because it's reached fifty

1060
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: thousand in the last couple of days. I think it's

1061
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: going to continue to grow. But you still don't know.

1062
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a lot to get in at this

1063
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: point in time. Like you said, you had a great

1064
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: opportunity earlier that Yeah, but you live and learn. Uh,

1065
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: And and I Like I said, I just wanted to

1066
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: have that exposure to just get a small taste of it.

1067
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: Is that is that? How do you approach football? Like

1068
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: you take that like you approach financials? Are you like

1069
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: studying your opponent is? Oh man he fitting heavy? Oh

1070
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: you fit the run block? Oh he real like, Oh

1071
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: you're about to kick up out of here? Oh you see, man,

1072
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: look at it. They got off setbacks. I know, y'all

1073
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. Do you put that kind of study

1074
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: in the film, study like you do stops and your

1075
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: portfolio and possible business of interest? There's no question about that.

1076
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: I definitely have tips and notes, and I could go

1077
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: back to as probably as early as twenty twelve on notes,

1078
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: Like I got notes on on one particular quarterback that's

1079
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: actually in my same division that I know when he's

1080
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: getting ready to snap the ball and it's held up

1081
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: for the last eight years right for me. Those different

1082
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: nuances and things that I can see on the film

1083
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: that I've learned from Jim Washburn, as I mentioned before

1084
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: in Chris Conserve, watching film like, I'm that much more

1085
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: calculated on what I'm going to go look for in

1086
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: film from an offensive line perspective, from a from a

1087
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: quarterback perspective, and then even from like you said, from

1088
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: a formation perspective. I got tips and different things that

1089
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm looking at for different teams and different coordinators and

1090
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: all these different pieces. So as I start to compile

1091
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: those different notes and all those different things, I can

1092
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: go back and check those items and then and then

1093
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: cross reference to them to make sure they hold up,

1094
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: and then implement that in the game. And then when

1095
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: I see one hundred percent that it's working or even

1096
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: higher percentage just saying it's eighty ninety, I'm gonna take

1097
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: that calculator risk to then go and say I'm gonna

1098
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: make a play. You So obviously you watch, you watch tape,

1099
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: you watch the game copy which is in silo, but

1100
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: I would think you would be a guy to watch

1101
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: the TV copy because you want to get a to

1102
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: hear the quarterbacks cadence. You want to hear you want

1103
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: to hear what he's trying to dummy calls, and you

1104
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: want to hear when he said certain things. What does

1105
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: the lion do when he did this? And what did

1106
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: the lion do when he did that? And what does

1107
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: the back doing, what does all that mean, so you

1108
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: watch a lot of TV copy also, Yeah, no question,

1109
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: And I'm sad that Philip Rivers is no longer playing perspective,

1110
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: but I got calls on him and he knows it.

1111
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: There's times where we bantered back and forth saying like,

1112
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: all right, I know I know what this call is.

1113
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: Keep keep doing that so I keep getting off the

1114
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: ball and getting to you from my perspective. Yeah, I

1115
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: definitely watched the TV copies and it definitely helps. And

1116
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, guys didn't know that the centers are

1117
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: miked up every game. That's their own fault. So do

1118
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,479
Speaker 1: you share? Do you share that information? So there's something

1119
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: that you picked up in the Kansas City game the

1120
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: first time you guys played him that you were able

1121
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: to relay with your teammates and says, hey, guys, when

1122
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: this guy does this, he's light over here. It's gonna

1123
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: be a past, it's gonna be a pass. Do you

1124
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: did you tip some of your teammates up on that

1125
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 1: as a collective group, Yes, we do some things about

1126
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: the Kansas City game that we're gonna give you some

1127
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: edges and what they wanted to do. I'm assuming we're

1128
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna play them again next year. If obviously I'm in Tampa,

1129
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna hold hold hold, you will keep that

1130
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: close to the bath. Yeah, if you don't mind, Dominican,

1131
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: let's go back. Are you surprised the two things? Are

1132
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: you surprised Calvin retired as early as he did, and

1133
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: or are you surprised that they traded Matthew Stafford Calvin.

1134
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not surprising in how early he retired. I

1135
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: think he looked at it from a standpoint of of

1136
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: how kind of Barry standards was in his particular career,

1137
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: and he was getting in that same low, even though

1138
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: he got to see some success and getting to the

1139
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: playoffs and whatnot. And then Matthew Stafford. It was a

1140
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: little surprising, especially how it's seemed that they were wanted

1141
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: him to be their ultimate quarterback for the years that

1142
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,479
Speaker 1: he was there. I think he was there for twelve years.

1143
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: For them to mutually agree to part ways was a

1144
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: little surprising. But also I could understand it from his

1145
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: perspective that he didn't want to go through a rebuilding

1146
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: situation and no matter what there's there was going to

1147
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: be some sort of that this particular year for them

1148
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: who's your favorite quarterback to pack? But all the quarterbacks

1149
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: that you've sacked, who do you take the most pleasure

1150
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: in packing? Uh? Aaron Rodgers is tough. Love so much.

1151
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think just because Aaron hates that

1152
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: I touch him and put him down to the ground,

1153
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: I think that's what I take the most great pride in. UH.

1154
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: And then it used to be Tom. I enjoyed hitting Tom,

1155
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: and then UH, because me and Tom are teammates, I

1156
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: would probably say any former quarterback that I used to

1157
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: play against, So Matthew Stafford would probably feel that voy

1158
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: so all the quarter If there any quarterback that you

1159
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: didn't sack that you wish, You're like, man, just one time,

1160
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: I want to get a hit on him, Just the

1161
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: one clean nice who one of them? One of them

1162
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: hits that you're like, who God with that? Who let

1163
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: him through? Yeah? There's actually two. And Brett Farf was

1164
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: one of those guys. And I actually got to play

1165
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: against him earlier in my career when he was with Minnesota,

1166
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: and I got him, but I let go at the

1167
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: last second and my teammate and good friend Cliff April

1168
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: cleaned him up and got the whole sack, so that

1169
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: one and then Peyton Manning. I mean, he's obviously a

1170
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: great quarterback and I didn't get a chance to go

1171
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: against him at the end of his career. So I wish,

1172
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: I wish I got an opportunity to go against him

1173
00:58:55,160 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: and get a sack against him playing with the Rams. Obviously,

1174
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: when you play with the Rams, you get to the

1175
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you face Tom Brady, and so you study

1176
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: and tape and you get get a chast the opportunity

1177
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: to see, like, man, we can be So what did

1178
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: what did you take away from playing against him that

1179
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: you got an opportunity to see playing with him that

1180
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: you can say like, now I understand why he's taught

1181
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: Ff and Brady. Now I understand why he wins. Now

1182
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: I understand why his teams win. Yeah, he analyzes and

1183
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: has the ability to understand how people want to really

1184
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: attack him. There's nothing that he really hasn't seen or

1185
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: some form of something he hasn't seen when it comes

1186
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: to formation coverage, the way people want to blitz and

1187
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: do these different things and whatnot, and he's being able

1188
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: to read and get the ball out very fast. I

1189
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: was mind frustrating peace going against him. He gets that

1190
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: ball out so fast when he was with the Patriots,

1191
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: and it was like if our dvs weren't on that

1192
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: first read, there was no chance I was getting there.

1193
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: So it's almost eliminating us from from the from the

1194
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: game plan, which definitely sucked and I wasn't a fan

1195
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: of and so being able to now be on the

1196
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: positive side of that and playing with him this past

1197
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: season and seeing those different pieces like it was it

1198
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: was great to know that you have a quarterback that

1199
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: was gonna be able to move the ball. You're gonna

1200
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: get quality rests from a standpoint being on the sideline,

1201
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: being able to go through your adjustments and then be

1202
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: able to get that go out there, get a stop

1203
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: and get the ball back to him. And we did

1204
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: that for the most part until we got to some

1205
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: of the lulls in our season where we let we

1206
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: wanted to give up points and not play sound defense.

1207
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: Give me your mount rushmore defensive players you get you

1208
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: know who out There's only four, so I want to

1209
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: know and they can be D line linebackers, corners. Safe

1210
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: this I need. I need a mind rushmore D defense man.

1211
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: That's a tough one for me because I'm not a

1212
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: huge historian when it comes to NFL football. I'm just

1213
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: gonna kind of say the guys that I got a

1214
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: lot of respect for, and I think I've done the

1215
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: game huge justice from their position and obviously elite talents.

1216
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: So when I put on there is Michael Strayan, Okay, uh,

1217
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: I didn't see I've seen film with him, and so

1218
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: I got a lot of respect for the way he played.

1219
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: In Lawrence Taylor, I was I was in the league

1220
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: with lt uh at the end he was special. Yeah,

1221
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: So uh those two so far, man, I would have

1222
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: to say, Readygi White, I mean I got so much

1223
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: respect for him and a guy that I wish I

1224
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: could have met. I mean that dude was special. I

1225
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: watched him and Wow, he was some special And how

1226
01:01:54,840 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: would I round it out? Ooh? Thinking my last one

1227
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: defensive wise man, fourth one for me? I mean ray Lewis.

1228
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis was something special. Yeah, in the middle linebacker perspective,

1229
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: So I probably go with those four guys. You mentioned

1230
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: the Oracle of Omaha, Warren Buffett, who Nebraska, He's end all,

1231
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: be all, he is Nebraska. You got an opportunity. So

1232
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: because it seems to me that what you do that

1233
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: when you go someplace, you ingratiate yourself with either ownership,

1234
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: someone that knows more about certain things than you do.

1235
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: You pick their brains. He says, okay, and you try

1236
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: to carry that out. As you mentioned every time we

1237
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: mentioned defense, you talk about your coach Jim Washburn and

1238
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: what heat. So it's like you're like a sponge. Okay,

1239
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: Warren Buffet, How did this relationship come about? Yeah, mister Buffett,

1240
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: I was super fortunate enough to be a captain in

1241
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: my last year and the last couple of years in Nebraska,

1242
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: and he was an honorary captain my senior year, and

1243
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,919
Speaker 1: so it was funny. We came out from warm ups

1244
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: and one of the coaches grabbed me. I was like, hey,

1245
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: do you know who Warren Buffett doesn't like? I mean, yeah,

1246
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm young, but of course I knew who. And they

1247
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: were like, well, do you want to meet him? He's

1248
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: gonna go out and do the coin toss with you

1249
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: and whatnot, and so I said yeah, for sure. So

1250
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: I met him right before the game and that was

1251
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: really it, and it was just a quick introduction and

1252
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: then we didnt the coin toss and then played the

1253
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: game killed Oklahoma my senior year, senior night, and then

1254
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: we moved on. Probably about six months later, a friend

1255
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: of mine was like, Yo, you should just reach out

1256
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: to mister w to mister Buffet to see if you

1257
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: would meet with you and take a take a meeting.

1258
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: So I asked Coach Osborne when he set it up,

1259
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: because I knew they were close friends. He said, happy

1260
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: to do it, but I'm just unsure if he will

1261
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: take the meeting. He's kind of picking and choosy. Obviously

1262
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: he's a very busy, busy human being, he said. The

1263
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: email we got connected and he was like, yeah, happy

1264
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: to meet with you. Let's pick a time. So I

1265
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: got to his office about two hours ahead of the time,

1266
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: waiting on him just out of respect, and we sat

1267
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: in that in his office were probably like three hours

1268
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: just talking like I was talking to my dad and

1269
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: just soaking up how he just maneuvers and read and

1270
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: how he carries on his day. He allowed me to

1271
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: shout up shadow him whenever I wanted to, and that

1272
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: relationship has just been strong ever since I left and

1273
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: left that meeting till this day. I actually spoke to

1274
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: him yesterday, so it's like I don't know how I

1275
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: built that relationship. It still boggles my mind when the

1276
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: phone rings and or an email comes across. So it's

1277
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: just a great relationship that I'm very thankful for. One

1278
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: of some of the obviously you you you like to invest,

1279
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Speaker 1: you say you have building companies. What are some of

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Speaker 1: your proudest investments. What are some of the things you like?

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01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: You had reservations at first, but you like, Man, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad I did this. I can I can really do

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01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: this now you know what I can. I can do this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean just talking about mister Buffett and one of

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Speaker 1: the best things I learned from him was, uh, make

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Speaker 1: sure you invest in people. Uh. And that's one of

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Speaker 1: the things that the smartest things that I've been able

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Speaker 1: to take from him. And one of my most prideful

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Speaker 1: things is my relationship with the African American men that

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Speaker 1: I that I see as my great mentors, the Jay

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Speaker 1: Browns of the World's the Junior Bridgements of the world.

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Speaker 1: I love food, so hospitality. Mister Bridgeman is one of

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Speaker 1: the best in the country at that he was really

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01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: he was one of the first to got to these

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Speaker 1: franchisees with the Wendy's and the other things. Uh, I

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01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: think the Applebee's he had a couple of them. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how many he has now, but at one

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Speaker 1: point in time he had one hundred. Yeah, no, no questions.

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Speaker 1: He's very successful. And haven't been able to meet him

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Speaker 1: in Louisville around the horse racing that was down there

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01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: the other day, probably about five or six years ago.

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Speaker 1: Now it's crazy, but yeah, just those relationships and being

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01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: able to have the opportunity invest and invest alongside of

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01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: them has been a great situation. I mean, Marcy Adventure

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01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: Partners is one of my greatest investments. Just seeing how

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01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: that is coming to light and being alongside, like I said,

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01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 1: Jay Brown and Jay Z and the smart people that

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Speaker 1: they have that that, to me is some of the

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Speaker 1: great decisions I have. And then even like the one

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Speaker 1: I'm probably most excited about is if I'm particularly picking

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Speaker 1: one particular company, I'd probably say Amber Technologies right now,

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01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: self heating technology, and it's just going crazy with how

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Speaker 1: successful they are and all the information that I've been

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01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: able to touch base and be close with with the

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Speaker 1: CEO there, Klay Alexander, some of the special stuff he

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01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: has up his sleeve for not only gifts for my

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01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: team that I'm working on, but also just the ability

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Speaker 1: to see what he's doing in the medical world and

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01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: the logistic world with that company is super special. Talk

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Speaker 1: about your foundation Young Black Professional Housing Project, tell us

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Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, so here in Portland, like I said earlier,

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Speaker 1: you have Seattle above us, and you have San Francisco

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Speaker 1: below us, and you just see the housing problems from

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01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: the perspective of it's super expensive. And so I looked

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Speaker 1: at it from a standpoint of me and my partner,

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Speaker 1: Joe Anderson, and he has a great construction company, and

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Speaker 1: Anderson Construction. The Young Black Professional Housing is an ability

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Speaker 1: to kind of it's a little reverse on low income housing.

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01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: So low income housing is kind of always focused on

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01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: people that are struggling, really don't have an opportunity. I

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01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: guess you a lot of I guess the common person

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01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: may see them as people that are on Section eight

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Speaker 1: and whatever it may be that perspective. I look at

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Speaker 1: them Blood Professional Housing as I'm a young student. I

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01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: just came out of college. I'm making maybe thirty forty

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01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, but I'm working up in this

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01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: great company to get to one hundred thousand dollars salary,

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01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: have equity all these different pieces. So but yet I

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01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: need to find somewhere to live and it needs to

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01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: be nice, and it needs to be from a perspective

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01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 1: to where I can get in proximity to where my

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01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: job is, which is going to most likely for a

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Speaker 1: big company, be in a nice area. AKA, their rents

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01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: are expensive. So my partner and the team and the

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01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: architects that we're working with, we created we want to

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01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: create this housing, and we have two sites right now

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01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: that we're working with and hopefully come out in the

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Speaker 1: probably the next eighteen and twenty four months, just depending

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01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: on how the city works here in Portland. But have

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01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: a great housing. It's basically collaborative living for these young

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01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 1: men and women to come there. Have its close proximity

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01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: to a lot of the city core or the urban

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01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: core where all their jobs are going to be, in

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01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 1: their opportunities to grow, they're going to be and we're

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01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: not going to we're not going to have these high

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01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: prices of market rate rent. It's going to be in

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01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: a situation to where they can come in there, they

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01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: can live there, they can get comfortable, they can get

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01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: to their jobs, they can work, and then as they

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01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: get they continue to move up, they can find and

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Speaker 1: afford these better places, and then the next young black

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01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: professionals can come in and move forward and have that opportunity.

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of how the mindset of that came.

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Speaker 1: Is there going to be a term limit and how

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Speaker 1: long they can stay there? Is it going to be

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Speaker 1: like say twelve months, twenty four months, thirty six months.

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Speaker 1: We're working with actually some nonprofits that have the ability

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Speaker 1: to determine those those particular pieces which are going to

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Speaker 1: be able to help us and identify what's going to

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01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: be the best possibilities and policies for us to move

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Speaker 1: forward with that. But I think from a term perspective,

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Speaker 1: if they're doing everything that they need to be doing,

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01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: they won't need to live there from a long for

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01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: a long term partition. From a long term perspective, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a short term maybe three to five years,

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01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: and then be able to move on to different housing

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01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: and really the ultimate living and goal. And I think

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01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: that's something that millennials haven't really looked at. In the

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01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: Gen zs and Gen x's, everybody back in the day,

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01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: especially Baby boomers, wanted to go by their house build equity,

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01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: have those opportunities to create generational wealth. And a lot

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01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: of millennials, like I said, are just renting. At the end,

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01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 1: they'll maybe be thirty five and still renting. So I

1384
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: think as the tables turn a little bit, this is good.

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01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a good step in the stone

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01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: for them. You mentioned I read where you said you

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Speaker 1: would like to maybe own a professional basketball team down

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01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: the line, or if that's something that you still would

1389
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: be entertained owning a being a partner and a professional

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01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: basketball team, football team, MLB soccer. I mean, do you

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01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: still have aspirations of being an owner and a sports team? Yeah,

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: no question. I would love that I have the opportunities

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01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: to own a sports team. I've been able to look

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01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: at a handful of different opportunities, but just I don't

1395
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: think that made the most sense for me to be

1396
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: able to pull the trigger. But I would love to

1397
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: be a part of an ownership group and or wholly

1398
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: own a team if fortunate enough to be that wealthy

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01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And so for me, I would love to

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01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: implement and create a Patriot type way in a different

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01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: way to where you empower the people around the organization

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01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 1: to be able to be successful and move the movement

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01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 1: in direction. Having played in sports, I feel like I

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01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: got a good pulse on how things work. I'd like

1405
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: to immerge myself and understand how the janitors work, but

1406
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: also to how the GM works. And I speak to

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01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: everybody the same, and I would expect that in an

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01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 1: organization to be able to do that. If I was

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01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: a part of him. You when you you obviously you

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01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: watch sports basketball player. If you were to say, in

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01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: today's game, or if they're a basketball player that reminds

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01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: and Dominican Sue of and Dominican Sue, that's a tough question. Uh,

1413
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: pick somebody, you got to say in this day and age,

1414
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: or can I can you can you can go back,

1415
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: you can pick you can pick, you could pick any

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01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: I probably say Charles Barkley if I'm if I'm if

1417
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm as somebody that I would say as a basketball

1418
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: player that reminds me of him myself. So Charles was

1419
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 1: one of those guys that was obviously very talented, but

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01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say had restrictions or anything of that nature.

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01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: But he was obviously wasn't a huge big man, right

1422
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: and he was under side You're not underside the Dominican. Yeah,

1423
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 1: and made plays and it was very successful. But I

1424
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: love the way he played a uh. And then truthfully,

1425
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: in this day and age, I make fund of my

1426
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: best friend all the time. But basketball players are a

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01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: little too soft for me. So bang in like the

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01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: old school way and whatnot. So uh. I also read

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01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: that you're I don't know if you still are, but

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01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: you used to be a muscle car guy. Are you

1431
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: still in the muscle cars? Oh? Yeah, I still love

1432
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 1: muscle cars. What do you what do you What do

1433
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: you have? What do you have? I got my seventy Chevelle.

1434
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: I love that four fifty When you got three ninety six,

1435
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: four fifty four LS six, I got an LS three. Okay,

1436
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 1: I just I couldn't do the carburetted motor anymore because

1437
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: smelling like gas all the time. Yeah, I just had

1438
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: to get the field, had to switch it out. It

1439
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: was just a little too much. If you could have

1440
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: any muscle car, any muscle car, from Akuda to a

1441
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: super B to a Corvette to a Camaro Chevelle, what

1442
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: would give me a Dominican food dream muscle car? I mean,

1443
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: I got my dream. I think the seventies savella Is

1444
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: is just one of a kind. It's a beaute. I

1445
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 1: had a Camaro. I love that. But what what you

1446
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: what your camaro? You have sixty eight sixty nine eight

1447
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: of course you know. And then but if I were

1448
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: to switch it up and get it out of the

1449
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 1: Chevy way, I would probably do a Shelby. Uh okay,

1450
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: oh four twenty nine, four twenty four, twenty seven, uh

1451
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: probably four twenty seven. But yeah, for me, yeah, I

1452
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: like to look at it. And obviously you got all

1453
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: the movies and the Shelbys and all that. Yeah, that's

1454
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,759
Speaker 1: that's my attraction there. But now I love my seventies Chevelle.

1455
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 1: It's I love. So the match up. You got bench

1456
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: seats or do you have bucket seats? Ok it, you

1457
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 1: know you got the glade. You have the glade? What

1458
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 1: do you have? You have the glade? I got the guy.

1459
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: My boy has a stick shit though, so I like

1460
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: to glide. Ferrari's a bit list. Ferraris are badly Ferrari

1461
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: all day. Ferraris are off the chain. California. Oh you

1462
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,759
Speaker 1: oh you're California dropping. Somebody said, you know what and Dominican.

1463
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: You any any any Ferrari, any Ferrari, any year you walk,

1464
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: which which ferrari is the Dominican food picking the Cali Ferrari.

1465
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: But I'm trying to think what year that I'm picking

1466
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,759
Speaker 1: the sixty two. I'm picking the sixty two gt oh okay,

1467
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 1: I just like the Cali model, the hard top with

1468
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: it with being able to drop drop and let the hair,

1469
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 1: let the fro and the Dominican. I really appreciate you

1470
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: stopping by a few minutes, stopping by club, having to drink,

1471
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: having conversations. Congratulations, life will never be day. All that

1472
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: other stuff is finding. The Pro Bowls are fine, All

1473
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: pros are fine, but that Super Bowl champ because guess what,

1474
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: ten years, fifteen, twenty years, when you guys get back together,

1475
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 1: you'll never forget that first one. There's something special about

1476
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: that personal Bowl. Congratulations, well deserved, Bruhnah. I appreciate it, man,

1477
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: It's a It's a true blessing and I'm excited. I'm

1478
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: gonna enjoy it for these next six months and then

1479
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 1: get back to work to hopefully get an opportunity to

1480
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: win another one. Thank bruh reft of up all my life,

1481
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: grinding all my life, sacrifice, Hustle back price. One slice

1482
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: got the Prowler dice to swap all my life. I've

1483
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: been grinding all my life, All my life, the grinding,

1484
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 1: all my life, sacrifice, Hustle back to prices. One slice

1485
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: got the bron dice to swath all my life. I've

1486
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: been grinding in all my life.