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Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and 5 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: Hey, then let's do it live on a Monday initiative. 7 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought you by bally Bett sports betting 8 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: partner your Cleveland Brown's coming soon to Ohio on a 9 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: fifty ESPN Cleveland, Young Scarlett. 10 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: I feel like we didn't get much of an acknowledgement there, 11 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: merely both. 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: I feel like he was not of the He was nonplused. 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell him we want mooring now. 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit more exciting. You look spectacular, as 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm merely both of the great ze. This is a great 16 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: collar blue on. You appreciate it. You get your nice 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: little golden hue. You you've been out and getting some 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: Vitamin D. You're looking great, feeling good. 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 4: Man, Try and try, and I just started today a 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 4: whole new courtesy of the hof. The last time I 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 4: was with him, his ripness just was like too much. 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 4: So he's like, all right, I gotta start doing some cardio. 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: So today was my first day. 24 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: Woke up like on the on the peloton twenty minutes 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 4: about a five mile ride. 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: There you go, got after it a scenic in the 27 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 3: locks of Scotland. 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: Oh there you go. 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: Did that twenty minutes and that before my workout. So 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: he's like, you to be doing fasting cardio and I'm like, 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: all right, I'm. 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: Gonna do that fasting cardio. 33 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: He said it would also help if I didn't, if 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 4: I cut down my wine, said, but I said, I'm 35 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 4: not willing to do that. So I said, this is 36 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: still going to be better than not doing it, better 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: than not it's going. 38 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: To make some type of an incremental. 39 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: So what's fasting cardio? 40 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 4: So you just do because I don't from the time 41 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: I eat dinner, I don't eat anything until lunch. And 42 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 4: he always wants me to do my work out of 43 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: my cardio in that period before lunch. 44 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: For I've done anything while my body's still like yeah, 45 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: chomping on fat. 46 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: I like it. 47 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: So there it is. 48 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 4: My legs are very tired though after twenty minutes. Yeah, 49 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: that's a different It's not something i'd done much. No, 50 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: that was you were a big that was a big COVID. 51 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, situation where we were. 52 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: We were all on the pelotons. 53 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 3: You were on the treadmill though. 54 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: I was on the tread Yeah. I liked it. 55 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: It was good. I like it. 56 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: We had a nice time, Yeah, we did. It was 57 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's a nice time. 58 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 5: It was. Yeah. 59 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 2: That's one of those things that like it has to 60 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: become part of the routine. Yeah, like you almost have 61 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: to be like, this is what we do. We do 62 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 2: it's the pancake breakfast. We do it, what we do, 63 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 2: that's what we do. You got to do it. So, hey, 64 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: we had a practice. Did you have a good weekend? 65 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: You do all right for yourself? How'd you do? 66 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: Great weekend? You got to hang out with the kids. 67 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 4: It was nice, you know, after I finally kind of 68 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: regained my bearings on after that long late arrival Friday morning. Yeah, 69 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 4: I had a nice time with the kids. And oh 70 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 4: we went and saw went to Delmonico's, had a nice 71 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 4: meal out on the pane. Yeah, and then went to 72 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: see Barbie, which. 73 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: Is actually good. 74 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure it was good. 75 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: It really was good, guys. 76 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: I'm not all surprised. I'm sure that you know, I 77 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: think both it and Oppenheimer were good. 78 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was supposedly the double feature. Yeah, Barbie Oppenheimer 79 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: back to back. 80 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: Right, which would have felt like a full day to me, 81 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: Like it would have been five hours. 82 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: Of and it would have been very different. 83 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably do Barbie first, I would think, and 84 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: then into Oppenheimer. 85 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: I don't know, do kind of like I said, do 86 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: you want to go like dark and then end on 87 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: a little bit more of a positive, you know, happy 88 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: Barbie note or do you want to go good question Barbie? 89 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: And then into the you know, the depth of Oppenheimer. 90 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 91 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. I'm not sure. 92 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: I don't think I could do it. I don't think 93 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: I could sit. 94 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: I feel like Oppenheimer, you're gonna want to talk with 95 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: people about whereas like Barbie, that fun, little fun, little flick. 96 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: I'm telling Scarlett, I say, we need more zest when 97 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: you walk by it. 98 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: When he at least he can do is that provide zest? 99 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: We have so little of him. 100 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, how was your weekend? 101 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: How was lots of football? Yeah, we had Bootsies. We 102 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: debuted Saturday morning, nine am, so that was good. Very 103 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: dialed in early, you know, first game. You never know 104 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: what you're gonna get. Kids were locked in, in and 105 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: out of the huddle in five seconds, lined up ready 106 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: to go. Bootsy putsy started. Quarterback was lamenting his lack 107 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 2: of touches, to which I explained, we only had like 108 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: thirteen plays. Dude, like he touches the ball every time. Yeah, 109 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: but you can't run it, so you can't run it, 110 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: so he just has to hand it off. And then 111 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: he got like one throw. But then he did get 112 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: a run in the second house. He's more than fine. 113 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: So quarterback can't run it, no, because it's chaos. If 114 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: they do, it's eight man flag. So if the quarterback 115 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: runs like the kids just it's too much. I actually 116 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: agree with it. Their first second graders, so no, huhuh, nope, nope. 117 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: So but it's a lot of like misdirection with handoff. 118 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,559 Speaker 2: And then he actually got you're not supposed to rush, 119 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: but the other team it means young kids, I don't 120 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: know what the hell's go on. And they brushed him 121 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: and he kind of had to flee the pocket and 122 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 2: he kind of threw on the run, made a decent 123 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: little throw. It was incomplete. It made a good little throw. 124 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: So we did that, and then we did in the afternoon, 125 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: we had for NBC we had three thirty five minute 126 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: running clock halves of football where it was like, you 127 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: have the ball for ten minutes, you have the ball 128 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: for ten minutes, excuse me, And it was so it's 129 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: a preseason scrimmage stuff. But these are all teams that 130 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 2: we play in the regular season. Okay, okay, So nobody 131 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: showed anything. She just ran it right, ran it left, right, right, 132 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: ran it left, ran for an hour and a half. 133 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: I was are they that worried about detailed scouting? Like, 134 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 4: were there scouts from other organizations present? 135 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: Oh, buddy, youth football. 136 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, there are scouts from other organizations present to 137 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 4: watch a preseason game of something. 138 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: There was one of the teams we scrimmage, Greens had 139 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: had a drone that was filming it. 140 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 141 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: We're talking out loud like we're friend's brother. That's what 142 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: they did. They filmed it like it with a drone. 143 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 3: And so they have film sessions. 144 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, get a little film sixth grade football. 145 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: Baby, that's not I'm where it's that. I'm happy. That's 146 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: a world that I do not have to occupy. 147 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: Your I will say that your zest for play calling 148 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: and film study would be ignited at this. I mean 149 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: even more so, like you're the schematic stuff. We would 150 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: just I'm but. 151 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: That's like it's not I feel like there's a lot 152 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: of hard o's out there. 153 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, more than a few. Yeah. And then you 154 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: have to weigh in. We had to weigh in. We 155 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: played at five oh five. We had to weigh in 156 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: at three point fifty. So we were playing at Dinah Highland. 157 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: We were there by what mean you have to weigh 158 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 2: in because kids can't be over a certain weight to 159 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: carry the ball. Okay, so if they're over a certain weight, 160 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: they have to put a sticker on the back of 161 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: the helmet and then they can't can't touch it. So 162 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: we were there from I got there. We left the 163 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: I left around three thirty, left my house three thirty, 164 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: got home at eight and that was and then you 165 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 2: just sit there all day waiting to play. It's brutal. 166 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: It's absolutely brutal. So, I mean, it was fun, the 167 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: game's fun. The kids are fun. It was long, but 168 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: it was like nobody did anything because we all play 169 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: each other. We were at the pools. Yeah, you won. 170 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: We were at the pool. You won and it was glorious. 171 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we did pull me and boots. He did 172 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: pool day yesterday. The older two had a They played 173 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: hoops at the que I guess rockets, So that was 174 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: pretty cool through their AAU thing. 175 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: That's pretty that's really cool. Yeah. 176 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 2: So they had a little play uh NBC with a 177 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: pretty bold move out of him. So his basketball shoes, 178 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: he's a nine and a half, so I'm a ten. 179 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: He's a nine and a half. His basketball shoes didn't 180 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: fit him anymore, apparently are gonna be so he. 181 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 3: Went, oh boy. 182 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: So he went into my closet. I have boxes of 183 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: shoes that have never been worn or that I've won 184 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: on stock X or sneakers or I guess sneakers app wins. 185 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 6: Mike between it. 186 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: Not many. No, my guy pulled out a pair of 187 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: Kobe from like ten years ago that I had never 188 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: worn and hooped in him. Bold job out of you, buddy. 189 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on a second, Oh yeah, without asking, 190 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: without notification. 191 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: He said that his didn't fit, and I said, well, 192 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: you can wear some of mine, assuming that you could 193 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: pick literally any of the others would be great. I mean, 194 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: that's not like a priceless shoe. But it's uh so 195 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: that was his move. What'd you say? Well, not those 196 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 2: bud too late, too late done. 197 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: So now he's just is he keeping them? 198 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: No? Now I guess I'll wear them. Yeah, well you 199 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: got no, No, there's no choice. I've got to at 200 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: this point. So that's where we are in that you had. 201 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: So that was our sunday you had. You We had 202 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: a little of a practice here yesterday. It looks like 203 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: we were spinning it down the field. 204 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a nice practice yesterday and Deshaun Watson 205 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 4: was in fine form. Everybody had to acknowledge it. Yeah, 206 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 4: he was throwing the ball very well. Omar Cooper had 207 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 4: a great day. It was good to see. 208 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: It was. 209 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: You know, our defensive line is a problem. I mean, 210 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 4: Miles Garrett pretty much makes it so, he and Zidarius. 211 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 4: But when DeShawn did have time to throw, he was 212 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 4: throwing darts and he and Mary were in very much 213 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: in sync and it was it was fun to watch. 214 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 6: It was. 215 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: It was a pretty intense practice. I was able to 216 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 4: take it in get the film study on it. Uh, 217 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 4: lots of little wrinkles to some option stuff which I 218 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 4: thought was fun to see. I think we're gonna I 219 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 4: think this offense is going to be much more fun 220 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 4: than I think people realize this year. 221 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's one of those things as you 222 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: and I talk about all the time though, like we 223 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: just it's we just everyone just wants to see it. Yeah, 224 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: you know, I'm never one to rush August along. I 225 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: enjoy it. I used to enjoy a lot more before 226 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: all the ball practicing and stuff that I have to do. 227 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: I love that too, but it just basically summers over 228 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 2: from me August first. Yeah, in terms of having true freedom. 229 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: But I am to the point now where I would 230 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: like to just just let's just get to September and 231 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: let's let's go play some games because I really don't 232 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: need to see us. I'm excited that we get to 233 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: see some ones against Kansas City and I saw that 234 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: twenty to twenty five plays. It's fun, but I don't 235 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: really need to I'd like to just get to Cincinnati. 236 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 4: Let's just go and it's not going to be every starter, 237 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: as Kevin Stefanski said, but I'm with you. Let's get 238 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: Cincinnati and getting my little I got my beak wet 239 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 4: on a little bit of Madden and I'm playing as 240 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: the Browns and like a franchise, and oh boy, it's 241 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 4: just like like we already know schedule, but beangles Steelers 242 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 4: Ravens in your first four games. 243 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it's legit hard had it's got to be. 244 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 6: Well. 245 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 4: I will say again, I mentioned it briefly about Miles, 246 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: but like, I'm pretty sure in the first team period, 247 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: if the first four plays that happened, I think he 248 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: got sacks on all four of them. 249 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like literally on all four of them, he's unblockable. Yeah, 250 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: and that's good. That's gonna yeah, no kidding, that's gonna 251 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: make it. You know, you think about week one with Cincinnati, 252 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: Burrow still hasn't practiced. You're three weeks, three weeks of 253 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: practice before you're playing a game. Yeah, but so you 254 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: get time. But he is still not practice down there 255 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: and doesn't appear that there's any sort of immediacy to 256 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: him returning to it. 257 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 3: So what do you think is gonna happen there? 258 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: I think they think he's gonna play. I think they 259 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: think he's gonna play. But like, I mean, he based 260 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: what did he do like two training camp practices or one? 261 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: He's been out for three weeks, four something like that. 262 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: So I get confused because we started a week earlier 263 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: than them, So I can't remember if they're Did he. 264 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: Throw like four picks in the opener last year against 265 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 3: the Steelers and they lost? 266 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 6: He did? Yeah? 267 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 7: Yeah? 268 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: Yeah down there? Yeah, yeah, he struggled out of the gates. 269 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: But again, remember last year he had appendicitis. Right, he 270 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: hasn't had a normal Yeah, he hasn't had one normal 271 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: veteran preseason training camp with the Bengals. 272 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: So, and Joe Mixon is a little testing down there 273 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: right now. 274 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: That should have been that should have been headed off 275 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: a long time ago. So for folks who don't know 276 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: the Mixan will not speak to four members of the 277 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 2: Bengals media for four of them. Our baby we have 278 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: all the time. Jay Morrison, we have on all the time. 279 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: Those are both great friends of the program. James Rapine. 280 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: And then I'm blanking on the reporter for the Cincinnati Inquirer. 281 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: But how does it get there to where? And then 282 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: his agent is fighting it in the press on Twitter. 283 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: Jeez, feels good. A little distractions down there, that's fine. 284 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: I'm fine with it. Yeah, I'm fine with that. 285 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: A couple other notes. Conklin did return to the locker 286 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: room during practice yesterday, Elijah Moore, Conkland, Matt Adams, all limited. 287 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 2: You had Anthony Schwartz and Cam Mitchell both walk off 288 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: the field with trainers, but Tonio with the veterans day off. 289 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: You mentioned Amari Denzel going ahead to head a lot 290 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: Ronnie Hickman around the ball. 291 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, rocket Hickman. 292 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: He's rocketing his way maybe into contention to make this roster. 293 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 4: He's got those three picks, and then you know, added 294 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: another one in practice yesterday. So yes, he has been 295 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: playing very well for the Cleveland Browns and makes that 296 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: safety you know, corner situation. It's complicated, we went through it. 297 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: You know it's gonna be tough. One thing that a 298 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: note from yesterday, JACKEM. Graham was the only person taking punts, 299 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 4: the only one in practice. 300 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: Note. 301 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 4: So there's a part of me that thinks like, maybe 302 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 4: he's on this roster. And then if he is, If 303 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 4: he is on this roster and Goodwin is good to go, 304 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: you're either carrying seven receivers or David Bell Or and 305 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 4: Watkins are not making it. 306 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, and yeah, and or could be both. Yeah, well, 307 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: we did the numbers game last week. 308 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 3: It's tough. 309 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 4: I mean, they're there are probably fifty eight guys that 310 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 4: they want to keep, and you'll keep fifty five fifty three, and. 311 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: You have to do that dance of like who can 312 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: we get through to the practice squad? Who can we 313 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: you know, who's vulnerable? 314 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 4: And we seleft the carries we've talked about, you know, 315 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 4: we have to carry Alex right in. 316 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: Even though he's injured. 317 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: We have to carry him to the initial fifty three 318 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: to then put him on. 319 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Big Thanos getting some reps at left tackle. 320 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: I like that. I like that. I like that. I 321 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 3: like it a lot. 322 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 2: How do you do? 323 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 4: Interested to see he did fine. It's known obviously not 324 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: as natural for him, and he didn't have I would 325 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: say this was not his best practice that he's had yet. 326 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: But I thought that he did a good job and 327 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: it didn't look as unnatural as I thought. Obviously he's 328 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: more comfortable right tackle right now, that's his natural footwork. 329 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: But it was good to see him out there. Yeah, 330 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: Big Thanos. Big Danos is a talented, talented guy, and 331 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 4: it's only a at our time. You know, hopefully you 332 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 4: don't need him you can just give him that whole 333 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: year to develop. But if we do need him, I 334 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: feel very confident that he will be ready. 335 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's a ceiling for his ability intellect, 336 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: athleticism and Bill Callahan's teaching. Yeah, like the common Nation, 337 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: the common A combination of that would I mean that 338 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: feels like that's a sky's a limit, like. 339 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: It's a chance to be a Pro Bowl, multiple time 340 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 4: Pro Bowler, ten year type guy. 341 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, because you just don't have You can't you 342 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: can't create that size. It's just the hair man. You 343 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: can't coach that size and that athleticism, which is what 344 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: he has really been one of the great stories of camp. 345 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: Coach said postgame that he expects Service to play twenty 346 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: to twenty five minutes against the Chiefs on Saturday. That's 347 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: going to be a burner. 348 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: Is that a one o'clock noon local? Yeah, it's going 349 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: to be a scorcher. 350 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 4: I also wonder, you know the Chiefs have played Mahomes 351 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: every preseason game. 352 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: Do they do that again? Do they go with their. 353 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: Talked you about this last week? Like nobody knows, like 354 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: everyone's doing this differently. Moses are good, by the way, Yeah, 355 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: jumping out of bounds and throwing it across his body. 356 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, yeah, do you see that? By the way, 357 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: so is justin Ross Speaking of Scarlett Clemson, did you 358 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: see the shake route he had. 359 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: On this week's game? 360 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: Again? 361 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 3: No, I saw a lot of Rashi Rice they have. 362 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: They have a ton of weapons. If Ross goes yeah, 363 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: the way that his abilities. 364 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: Do you think he could be like starting is he 365 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: working with Mahomes? 366 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah it was Mahomes. Yeah, he got he 367 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: did a it was a shakeout in maybe was it 368 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: maybe inverted out? I just the shake was out and 369 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: he just left him in the dust. I want to 370 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: say Ackley's running out that brought it back in. 371 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 6: It was crazy. 372 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: So there's there's a lot of talented but yeah, nobody 373 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: knows what they're doing. So like Rogers is going to 374 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: play this week against the Giants, but like who knows 375 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: if Dine' is gonna play to a play this weekend? Right, 376 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 2: I would think he would be bubble wrap, Like why 377 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: would you put him in any sort. 378 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: Of potential a concussion? Right? 379 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, these coaches have nobody has a clue what to 380 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: do with this. So what does this week look like 381 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: for us. 382 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: So this is gonna be, like I said, this is 383 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: going to be a regular game week. So Tomorrow Tuesday, 384 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 4: players are off today. Tomorrow, Tuesday will be like a 385 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 4: Wednesday practice. 386 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So yesterday was there, Okay. 387 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: Yesterday was one of the last I think probably like 388 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 4: real training camp practices, was yesterday. I think Tomorrow starts 389 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: a normal week. When then I think we're gonna be 390 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 4: doing some game planning for the Bengals, not the Chiefs, 391 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 4: for the Bengals. So Tomorrow will be a normal Wednesday. 392 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 4: Wednesday will be a normal Thursday. Thursday will be the 393 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: normal fast Friday, walk through Friday, and travel to Kansas 394 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 4: City game Saturday, and you're back and then after that 395 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 4: you'll have the cutdown. 396 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: That's that Saturday. 397 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 3: I believe the cutdown is. I think it's following they 398 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 3: get cut down day Tuesday, maybe. 399 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 8: Tuesday five o'clock, I believe. Okay, following four o'clock o'clock, 400 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 8: you'll start seeing things. 401 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: Eight days from now, yeah, okay, Tuesday, August the twenty 402 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: week from tomorrow cutdown day, okay, and then you'll have 403 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: the rest of that week and then you'll have that'll 404 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: be your initial labor day. 405 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: Three and then you'll probably have within the next forty 406 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: eight hours if there are any changes from that initial 407 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 4: fifty three claims happen. 408 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then. 409 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 4: You'll have right you'll go into Labor Day and then 410 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 4: you'll come out of Labor Day starting with a Wednesday 411 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 4: Thursday Friday set of practices. Yep, you'll probably practice that 412 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: Monday Tuesday off. So that Wednesday, Thursday, Friday Saturday. 413 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: That's Wednesday. Baker went to Yellowstone Club with Jarvis and 414 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: Odell and Woop. Remember it was on that that Labor 415 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: Day weekend. They went out there for like three days. 416 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: And because it's kind of like you go through this 417 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: whole camp, then you have this the way the schedule 418 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: is now, you go through this whole camp and then 419 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: you have like two weeks before you play a game. Yeah, 420 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: so it's kind of a different you know, we've been 421 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: in this for a while, this calendar for a little 422 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 2: bit of a while, but you kind of have like 423 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: this extended weekend. 424 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 4: You have that time. But you'll see, I'll be curious 425 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: what the what the plan will be for the guys, 426 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 4: because that's your time. Also, you've got to get ready 427 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 4: for the Bengals, like Yeah, that's when it's that's what 428 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 4: we're getting serious. 429 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: It feels to me like, in an ideal world, you 430 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 2: play the last preseason game like this Friday. 431 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: Say you played on Thursday for Thursday, and give them 432 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: a weekend. 433 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 2: And then you the next weekend you start the season. 434 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 2: That's right, like, rather than two weeks in between, like 435 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: lock it up, tighten it up a little bit. So 436 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: uh and maybe it gets that where it Maybe it 437 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: gets there at some point. They've always kind of left 438 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: Labor Day weekend to college football. Yep, but college football 439 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: is going to have to back up. College football is 440 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: gonna have to start everybody this week to make the 441 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: playoff work for them. So maybe at that point the 442 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: NFL does as well and moves back their schedule to 443 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: Labor Day. We'll see, we will. Are you enjoying the Madden. 444 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 3: It's farrier. 445 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just getting my feet wet, But so far, 446 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 4: it's fun to see us. And you know, some of 447 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: our guys are not as highly rated as probably. 448 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 3: No white hats yet, no white hats so I could 449 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: not find the white hat I tried. It was the 450 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 3: first thing I tried to do. 451 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: I looked right into it. 452 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: But yes, so it's good. 453 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 4: Just I feel the gameplay in the sense of it's 454 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: pretty much a completion or an interception is annoying. 455 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 3: I will. 456 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 4: I do think that the new way they were doing passing, 457 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: like for whatever reason, I can press the button, I 458 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 4: feel like the same way both times, and like one 459 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 4: time it's a perfect pass and the next time it's 460 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: an accurate it's just like and he throws it like 461 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: off the planet, Like yeah, not even close. So that's 462 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: that's no fun. But yeah, I think it's still it's 463 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 4: too much. It's basically it's either a completion or an interception, 464 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 4: like the ball does not hit the ground a whole lot. 465 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: I've sewn you before we started. I played one half 466 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: of us against the Bengals in the opener, and Burrow 467 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: was ten of thirteen for he had three touchdowns and 468 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: three picks at half and like two hundred and twenty 469 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: yards passing, like you couldn't stop He just went, yes, 470 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: now we couldn't stop us either. We went Watson was 471 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: ended up was nine of was that nine of twelve 472 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: or nine of thirteen? Now he's nine of twelve, two touchdowns, 473 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 2: three picks. The ball was either a touchdown or an 474 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: interception for both quarterbacks the whole half, and I just 475 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: shut it down. I said, I'm gonna go back to FIFA. 476 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 3: He said, that's it. 477 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: That's it. I don't need it. 478 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 3: I don't need any Are are the boys getting into 479 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: mad at all? 480 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 6: Yeah? 481 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: But they're all into it in a different way than 482 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: you and I were. They all want the ultimate team packs. 483 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 2: I came down, like, Dad, we got a Hoff in 484 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: eighty six half. We got a Hoff Great, awesome. I 485 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: don't even know what that means. I don't know what. 486 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do with this? It just seems 487 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: like they are Yeah, but then who do you play. 488 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: Against other people with their ultimate teams? 489 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell they're doing. It doesn't 490 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: I don't understand it. But aren't you all getting from 491 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: the same pool? So like he kept ripping pack because 492 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: we bought like the one with the where you get 493 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: to whatever, and so we kept ripping packs. I'm like, 494 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: what he's like, these are all like they were all 495 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: like seventies or whatever. And I'm like, I said, would 496 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: would it make sense? And I don't know the answer 497 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: to this, would it make sense to like, wait a 498 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 2: month when the cards are better or do you just 499 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: rip them? 500 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, but then people want to That's that's how they 501 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 4: make all the money. It's constantly you constantly want to 502 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 4: have the best guy. So like if you want to 503 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: keep your team going with the best guys, you constantly 504 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: need to go right otherwise I get scam if oh 505 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 4: my god. 506 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: Just like two k, same thing with two k. Yes, 507 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: where I get these VC charges for twenty bucks, tell 508 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: them that I got to hunt it down. 509 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 4: Tell them it's a bad deal. If you're going to go, 510 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: they got to pop you for the hundo because that 511 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 4: will get them so much more than doing twenty bucks 512 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: five times. 513 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 2: No, that's good information. So if they're going to do it, 514 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 2: you do it one time, do the hundo, and then 515 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: you crush it. 516 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, then you get because you get so much more 517 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: bonus VC. 518 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, So I'll tell them that they want 519 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 2: to go in together on a. 520 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: One one high because I'm not paying for it way 521 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: more than five twenties. 522 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 2: Okay, good to know. That's good. 523 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 6: Note. 524 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: I'll put that in my notes. One other thing I 525 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: wanted to share with you. So you're familiar with the 526 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: HBO show Winning Time. 527 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I haven't. There's too much right now. No, 528 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 3: it's too much. 529 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to watch it. I'm just going 530 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: to tell you that they I watched a little bit 531 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: over this weekend and caught up. We're into like the 532 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: eighty two season, so they had just won, so they 533 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: won it in eighty then eighty one the Celtics win it, 534 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: so you get a little bit of bird backstory in 535 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: the first couple of episodes that with the Celtics winning it, 536 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: and then yeah, there's fighting interfighting with the Lakers. Not 537 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 2: yet yet, not yet, So eighty two is when that happens. 538 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: When I mean, this is all historical, like I'm not 539 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: rooting anything for anybody, but they follow it pretty closely. 540 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: The reason I want to bring it up to you, 541 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: the episode from yesterday was the Larry Bird episode. It's like, 542 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: this is how Bird became Bird. So it was his upbringing, 543 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: like the fact that he was that Bob Knight basically 544 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: didn't protect him at IU and he went back home. 545 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: So Bird tried out for the Indiana State basketball team 546 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: in work boots and jeans and a in a scrimmage 547 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 2: and scored like forty eight against their their A team. 548 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: The coach talked him into playing. He was like working 549 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: at a bar, like or like a in a restaurant, 550 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: and he would play like pick up in the street, 551 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: and the coach talked him in for a tryout, and 552 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: he scored like forty some points. But that's that's that's 553 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 2: all the folklore, and apparently that part's true. This was 554 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: the coolest thing though to me. The guy that they 555 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: cast to play Bird not only resembles Bird, he shoots 556 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 2: just like him. And apparently the guy wore he was 557 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: a college basketball player. He wore thirty three four Bird. Dude, 558 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: the shot, Oh it's the Bird shot? 559 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeahsh how's his trash talk? 560 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 6: Is it? 561 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: Bird? 562 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: Goodd He just humorless and NonStop, straight to the point. 563 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: It's really it's the best. To me, it's probably And 564 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: the guy that got playing Magic's pretty good too. 565 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 566 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: But the guy they got playing Bird is probably the 567 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: closest fact similar to an actual athlete actor to an 568 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: athlete I've ever seen. It's that good the way that he's. 569 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 3: Is it the same guy from season one? It is? 570 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, same act he So he resembles him. 571 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 4: A little bit, but they also looks like guy. There's 572 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 4: no chance of ever being in the NBA. But I 573 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: guess birds sort of look that way as well. 574 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: So when you know this, dude's when you watch this 575 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: this kid, this guy can play okay, and it makes sense. 576 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: I looked it up immediately. Who is the actor doing this? 577 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: So I looked it up. They're like, oh, yeah, he 578 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: played in college was a place northern California. I think 579 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: high school player, then played in college and then and 580 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: his idol was bird like war thirty three. Oh yeah, 581 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: he looks like they perfectly cast it. That's the basketball 582 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: part of it. 583 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 3: Is this season as good. 584 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: It's you know, I think it's it's fine, but I mean, 585 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: like my wife really likes it. I know this all 586 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: this stuff, So for me, it's kind of like there's 587 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: no real surprises here because I know how this all goes. 588 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: John c Riley is pretty damn good as Bush. 589 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 3: She's amazing. How long are they going to keep this going? 590 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: The big talk over the weekend like they have to 591 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 2: get ratings to get a third season because HBO has 592 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 2: a much more since he went to Max and all that, 593 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: they have a much more strict like how they're spending 594 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: their money. So in the old HBO days. They probably 595 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: could go all the way through the eighties, which is 596 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: what the plan was, to go all the way to 597 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: the HIV announcement. But I don't know if they'll get 598 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: there now because the ratings are down a little bit. 599 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 6: But they don't. 600 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: They're in the strike, so no one can promote anything. 601 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: And it's you know, it's it's a bad time of years, 602 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: bad time of year. The last one we needed this 603 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 3: like in the summer. 604 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: The last one debuted after March Madness. 605 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: It was an a right perfect that's when it should be, 606 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 3: not not going into football season. 607 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 2: Good though, the guy playing the guy playing bird has 608 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: got the shot down. 609 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: By the way, are you watching Gemstones? 610 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 6: Yeah? 611 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: I watched all of it. 612 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 3: It's done, It's done. Yeah, and just binge it. Everybody 613 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 3: keeps telling me it's great, dude. 614 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: First of all, it's McBride. 615 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 3: No, yes, good men, and that Adam kuy love that kid. Dude. 616 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: It's I like all of them. 617 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: Uncle Baby, Uncle Baby Billy, like Walton Goggins. Have you 618 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 2: seen Uncle Baby Billy? Do you know what I'm dealing with? 619 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 4: No, I haven't seen any of it. You said, I 620 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 4: remember the first season. You were not that into it. 621 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 4: But supposedly Yeah, yeah, okay, I think I mean. 622 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: Comedy of it. Oh my god. Yeah, that guy's great 623 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: uncle baby Billy. Yeah. 624 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 2: Yes, they leaned all in on the comedy of it. 625 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 2: That's what they should, which is what Yeah. So like 626 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 2: the last season was just nonsense. It was great. It's 627 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 2: just like what he did with Eastbound, where like there 628 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: was some stuff that's like boy that took a sterious 629 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 2: tone there. Staying the fun maybe is a better way 630 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 2: to do that. Yeah, all right, lots to get to. 631 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: We will go around the NFL. As I mentioned, everybody's 632 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: approaching this very very differently. You'll also have We're gonna 633 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: do a little fantasy. It looks like with John Hanson 634 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: gonna join us in the second hour. The Guru Greg 635 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: Newsom from the podium as well. We're often running on 636 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: a Monday edisue of Cleveland Browns Daily eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 637 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett coming 638 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 639 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch the Browns preview show tonight at 640 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: seven Kennon Geron and the University Hospitals Cleave. The Browns 641 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: Radio Network the Voice of the Browns, Jim Donovan and Brown 642 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: center Ethan Posik join the program. Then as we go 643 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: around the National Football League, we had let's do the 644 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: football first, and we'll get into the Monday and I 645 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: countdown stuff. The Eagles of released former Browns second round 646 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: pick Greedy Williams on Saturday. 647 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were over there. 648 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: What was going on with our guy? 649 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 4: Just just too many corners. I mean he was like 650 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 4: eighth or ninth on their death chart. 651 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, such promise for us as a in 652 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, he was that year two good. 653 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: Yes, in twenty twenty one. He ar it was twenty twenty, 654 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. He was quite good. Co I want to 655 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: say twenty twenty one, No, twenty twenty one, he's good. 656 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 4: He had one year with us that was. 657 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: Looked up to look this up. 658 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, you're up. 659 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 6: I know. 660 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 2: So I didn't know if you did or not. I 661 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: saw it. You know, you get yeah getting did you 662 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: want to weigh something? No, you're good, he sounded. 663 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 8: It was a rough day for the Williams family. He 664 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 8: showed promise, but and he had that really bad injury. 665 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: Well, the injury came. 666 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 6: No. 667 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one. 668 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 6: I was right. 669 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one was his good year. 670 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 4: He was out all of twenty twenty, yeah, with that 671 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 4: shoulder injury. Twenty twenty one he played in sixteen games, 672 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 4: the eight starts, two picks, ten passes defense. He had 673 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 4: a really good year, and then last year it just 674 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: went away. He was got rough in the preseason and 675 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 4: then it just was It was very, very tough. 676 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: So he, uh, that was it. 677 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 4: And I wonder if he'll land anywhere. I wonder if 678 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 4: we'll give him a look back here or if that's 679 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 4: if that's pretty much the end of the road for him. 680 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: I would think with his talent, someone would kick the tires, right, 681 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he's shown an ability to do it in 682 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: the league. You'd think that there'd be somebody who would. 683 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: And he's still young. 684 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 4: He showed it one for one season. Really, he's a 685 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 4: sad part. He's only twenty five. Yeah, and you wonder 686 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 4: if that shoulder. You know, it was great seeing him. 687 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 4: I get to talk with him in Philly. He's such 688 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 4: a nice guy. You could tell all the guys on 689 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 4: our team really really like him. But yeah, he was 690 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 4: really good in twenty twenty one, and then last year 691 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 4: just fell off a cliff and was not They really 692 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: couldn't even put him out on the field last year, 693 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 4: and when he was in coverage, I mean he was 694 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 4: torched last year to give ninety percent completions, eighteen yards 695 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 4: of catch, two touchdowns, a quarterback rating of one fifty 696 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 4: eight point three win. 697 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 3: Targeted, which I never would have known that that's the max. 698 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: So it was rough. 699 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: I know it was bad. I didn't know it was 700 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: that bad. 701 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not good. 702 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: His brother was released the same day. Yes, r Darius 703 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: released the same day Miles Jack calling it a career 704 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: after just seven seasons Formers, Jaguars, Steelers, and then Eagles 705 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: for just a couple of weeks. He signed with Philly 706 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: on August sixth and shutting it down. 707 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 3: He was playing in the fourth quarter of the preseason game. 708 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: I remember when I saw that. I remember you saying that, 709 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: bringing attention to that last week we did the show. 710 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: You were like, Miles check was out there in the 711 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. 712 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 4: And he's coming off of three straight hunter tackle seasons, 713 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 4: and I guess he's. 714 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 5: Just there were a couple guys in that game. 715 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, all of those linebackers that they signed. 716 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, they were all playing like well into. 717 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 3: The four at Cunningham Moro. 718 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 4: They signed three guys who have multiple one hundred tackle seasons. 719 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 4: They signed them all this offseason to play linebacker for him. 720 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got Miles. 721 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 4: Jack was a second round pick in the two L 722 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 4: sixteen draft out of UCLA. 723 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: That's right, big pack twelve guy. I love it, yep. 724 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 4: And yeah, last three season, one hundred and eighteen tackles, 725 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 4: one hundred and eight tackles, one hundred and four tackles 726 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 4: last year, that was his first year with the Steelers. 727 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 4: And yeah, looks like he's hanging it up. 728 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: He's on twenty seven. 729 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: They weren't even sure he was going to make the 730 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 3: team when we were in Philly. I was like, what 731 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: do you mean, Miles Dack might not make the team. 732 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 3: He might not make the team. Like he definitely can play. 733 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 2: Still you would think, well we would know. 734 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 3: I mean they signed so this offseason they signed him. 735 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 3: They signed Zach Cunningham. You remember Zach Cunningham. 736 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, who I want to say, may have even been 737 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 4: like a first round pick, second round as well. He 738 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 4: was the second round pick of the Texans out of Vandy. 739 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 4: He led the NFL the one hundred and sixty four tackles 740 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. He had three straight years of one 741 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: hundred tackles. Uh, and then he was banged up last year. 742 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 4: They signed him, and then they signed Uh. 743 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: I want to say it's Morrow was his last name. 744 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Nick Morrow, who was a linebacker that played with 745 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 4: the Bears last year and had a career high hundred 746 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 4: and sixteen tackles himself. And they signed all three of 747 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: those guys this offseason, so clearly they wanted they were 748 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 4: looking for some tacklers in that linebacking room. 749 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, just twenty seven like you that's something. Yeah, to 750 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: shut it down that way, but you know, if you're done, 751 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 2: you're done totally. A couple of rookies played better in 752 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 2: their second preseason games, both c J Stroud and Bryce Young. 753 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: CJ looked pretty good. He looked a lot better pretty 754 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: uneven and first time out, looked better in the game 755 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: over the weekend. I think Bryce will be fine too. 756 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: The size is just going to be an issue for 757 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: him always, but I think he's going to be pretty 758 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: much fine there. Did you hear the comments from Aaron 759 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: Rodgers on his uh, what his plan is? 760 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 6: New York? No? 761 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: So he's in a sit down. I'm not sure who 762 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: the interviews with. If he's in a sit down interview, 763 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: and he says that he wants to play three to 764 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: five and then give it to Zach for the next fifteen. 765 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: So he wants to play three to five years in 766 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: New York. I remember, though. The crazy thing is like 767 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: Zach is so young that theoretically they could do that 768 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 2: if he sat for three years three Rogers was three 769 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: years this year and then two more. 770 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 3: So that would be the entirety of his rookie contract. 771 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: Entire rookie contract. 772 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: He'd be a very expensive backup when they pick up 773 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 3: that fifth year option. 774 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: Yes, he would be very much would be Yeah. 775 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 4: Maybe back up the whole time. That feels like maybe 776 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 4: too long. I know that he certainly wants to play 777 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 4: for a while. That's that's wild. Apparently they like are 778 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 4: getting a long grade and it's made an improvement and 779 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 4: what will see in the right I haven't watched the 780 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 4: whole second one. I just watched because he had told 781 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 4: me too. I watched The Mentalist. 782 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: What'd you make of that? 783 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 3: There are these they're in on it? 784 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: You think Rogers is in on it? 785 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 3: He didn't seem to be. No, neither did Michole Hardman. 786 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 4: No, but like to get the score and the teams 787 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 4: and have that, like, it just doesn't seem possible. 788 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: Dude, he pulled a card out of a deck, handed 789 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: it to Rogers and had him open his hands and 790 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 2: it was a goldfish. 791 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw it. 792 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 4: I saw it all. I love all that stuff. It's 793 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 4: it's like what that guy did to me. The guy 794 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 4: did it somehow that like, and somebody's like, oh, your 795 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 4: wife was she was not. No, you're regardless. It doesn't 796 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 4: change the fact that I doesn't make sense that I 797 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 4: tore up the card and then the card was back 798 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 4: together with my signature on it, like they did not have. 799 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 4: I didn't sign two cards. 800 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 2: No signed one. 801 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 3: One card ended up in your shoe, in my shoe 802 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 3: hole like a Steban. No. 803 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 8: Shoot, what do you make by the way you talked 804 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 8: about guys doing better in their second games? What do 805 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 8: we make of the Colts decision not to play Anthony 806 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 8: Richardson in the second preseason game. 807 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 5: I don't know, you get I think, don't you need 808 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 5: to get him ready? 809 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 6: Yeah? 810 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 3: I would want to get him every rep that I could. 811 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 8: Get him, Like why are we sitting out rookie qbs 812 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 8: that are going to start day one? 813 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: So I'm telling you guys, this is my this is 814 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: my Nobody knows what to do with this preseason. No, 815 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 2: these coaches don't know what to do with it. They 816 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 2: don't know what what what they should play in. 817 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: They want to see it'll be a good research project. 818 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 3: Who changed it? Because for a wild preseason was all 819 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 3: the same standard. It was standard. 820 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 4: The first game they played a drive, the second game 821 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 4: they played a quarter, The third game was the big 822 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 4: tune up, and they would play at least a dress rehearsal, 823 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 4: and then the fourth game they would not play. Ye 824 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 4: who was the one that was like, that's not how 825 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 4: we're doing it anymore, do you what? 826 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: Let's let's do a little guests of stats. 827 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 3: Okay with you can't wait to fail? 828 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 2: Talked about Anthony Richardson that he needs needs snaps, needs 829 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 2: needs reps. All right, he was a three year player 830 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 2: at Florida. Okay, three year player at Florida. How many 831 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 2: games do you think he played in in three years 832 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 2: at Florida? 833 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 3: The max would be what like thirty. 834 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty six six thirty, Well more than that, it'd 835 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 2: be more like forty. 836 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 3: Probably, Okay, I'd say twenty eight twelve. 837 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 2: And in one of the one of the seasons he 838 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 2: only attempted a total of two passes. In his first season, 839 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 2: only attempted a total of two passes. Who played a 840 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 2: total of twelve games at Florida. What do you think 841 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 2: his completion percentage was in his junior season at Florida? 842 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 2: Fifty four sixty one fifty three point eight. Nailed it 843 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: twenty five forty nine passing yards, seventeen touchdowns, nine picks. 844 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: He's word, he is a project coach. 845 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 5: So all the more project that you better be. 846 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: He's the guy that should have They should have played 847 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 2: Minshew like they have Minshew. He knows the offense. They 848 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 2: could have played Minshew for most of the season. 849 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: That sounds like the owner. 850 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 2: Well it could be. But there was also some talk 851 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 2: that maybe he's maybe they're trying to tank a little 852 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 2: bit so they can pick high again next year. Maybe 853 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 2: get Marvin Harrison junior if they're bad enough. But Richardson 854 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: is going to struggle struggling, Yeah, big Lee, Well. 855 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 8: And your running back currently doesn't seem to want to 856 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 8: participate in things. 857 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 2: I mean, when's the last time we had somebody that 858 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 2: a fifty four percent passer, seventeen touchdowns, nine picks, twenty 859 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 2: three hundred yards. Who's picked that high in the NFL draft? 860 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 2: I mean that just doesn't No, that doesn't. 861 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 3: Have like him? 862 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 4: Is that like Jake Locker? But he played a lot, 863 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 4: But wasn't his completion percentage it. 864 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 2: Was down to Yeah, yeah, Richardson ran for six fifty four, 865 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 2: so it's not like he was he was like John 866 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 2: Football three thousand passing, one thousand rushing or cam or 867 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 2: anything like that. It wasn't that in any way. 868 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 4: All Right, here's Jake Locker because that's the first one 869 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 4: that came to my mind. 870 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 3: Jake Washington. Washington. Yeah, he graduated. 871 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 4: He was eighth overall, and his career completion percentage at 872 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 4: Washing was fifty four percent. 873 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 2: What was he his last year? 874 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 4: Fifty five point four seventeen touchdowns, nine picks. 875 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 2: Same, how'd that go? 876 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: Not good? 877 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: He's best running season was his freshman year in for 878 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 4: nine hundred and eighty six yards and thirteen touchdowns. Whatever 879 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 4: year after that it was under four hundred and six touchdowns, 880 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 4: So he wasn't a runner. 881 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 2: Well, and the other thing, both those Cats have in 882 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 2: common is is they are They were guys who people 883 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: fell in love with them in the draft process, tested well, arms, 884 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 2: all that that was. That's how that went. Yeah, yeah, 885 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: but that's a nobody. I agree with you, like there 886 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 2: needs to just be like a uniformity, like this is 887 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 2: what the preseason is. Three games first one, you get 888 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 2: a series, second one two series. Third one is a 889 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 2: half and then you got two weeks off. So you're 890 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 2: done there. That's it. Because some of these games, some 891 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 2: of these individual games, the approach is completely different for 892 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 2: both coaches. And we saw two of the I know 893 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: that the Patriots and Titans canceled their joint practices. Really 894 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: that was canceled today there was another one. Two teams 895 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 2: over the weekend canceled theirs. 896 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 3: And there was a canceling of the game. Shut the 897 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 3: game off. I want to say the cults they get 898 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 3: they canceled joint practice. The culture going to the Eagles, I. 899 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 2: Thought there's a joint doesn't There's two joint practices that 900 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 2: were canceled. 901 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 8: Tampa Bay was slated to do joint practices with the 902 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 8: Jets and they got canceled. And the Jets then were 903 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 8: practicing at the Giants facility one day last week. I 904 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,439 Speaker 8: remember seeing that like they were supposed to be there 905 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 8: to practice and. 906 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 4: Texan Saints Texans joint practice canceled with Saints those fourteen 907 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 4: hours ago, and the Patriots canceled their. 908 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 3: Joint practice with the Titans. 909 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 6: There you go. 910 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 4: Following the injury to Isaiah Bolden, which is the one 911 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 4: that stopped the game, they said, obviously the seriousness of. 912 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 3: The injury was part of it. 913 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 4: Felt like after the Green Bay game, we had a 914 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 4: little time, locker froom looking situation, made decision that the 915 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 4: best thing for the team would be to come back 916 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 4: here and not go to Tennessee. Hard, decision to like 917 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 4: to work against them, try to balance it number of 918 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 4: things involved. 919 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 3: So we came back Sunday. 920 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 2: There you go. So four teams, two joint practices canceled, 921 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 2: different reasons. But nevertheless, why did. 922 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 3: The other one get skied? Why the Saints Texans, I. 923 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 8: Don't know, And I'm telling you the Jet Tampa Bay 924 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 8: was practicing. 925 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 2: There was another speaking of Tampa Bay, there's a weird 926 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 2: postgame presser with Kyle Trask. He was asked why Baker 927 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 2: didn't play like he's in this competition with Baker and 928 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 2: he's like, why do you do you were you curious 929 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 2: why Baker didn't play and you did and Trash kind 930 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: of gave this, I can only control what I can control, 931 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 2: like that type of answer. But it felt like there 932 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 2: was more to it. 933 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 3: And he played well yeah, really, well yep. It feels 934 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 3: like he's not gonna start. I mean, it just feels 935 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 3: that the Baker's gonna start. 936 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 2: It feels like a lock. And I don't like they 937 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 2: drafted him in the second round, Like, wouldn't you want 938 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 2: to see play him a little bit? 939 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 4: Because it's not all accounter that it's been. It sounds 940 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 4: like it's been one sided battle. 941 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 6: No. 942 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 8: So a couple of things. One from the Texans. Their 943 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 8: announcement was our two teams have mutually agreed to cancel 944 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 8: the joint practices that were scheduled in New Orleans this week. 945 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 8: After our head coaches spoke earlier today, we decided this 946 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 8: was in the best interest of both teams as we 947 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 8: continue to prepare for the regular season, or revised practice 948 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 8: schedule will be sent out no reason. This one Jets 949 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 8: Tampa Bay, a routine week of preparation suddenly took a 950 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 8: turn for Tampa Bay last Wednesday, when Jets coach Robert 951 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 8: Sala canceled the second of the team's two joint practices 952 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 8: in order to avoid a potentially contentious second session. Hmmm, 953 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 8: so they were, and then the Jets and then Tampa 954 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 8: Bay had to go practice. The Giants opened up their 955 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 8: facility to allow Tampa Bay to practice. 956 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 2: There you go. This just now out of Cincinnati. Zach 957 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 2: Taylor joking with the media down in Cincinnati in terms 958 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 2: of how much work he needs to see from Joe 959 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 2: Burrow before starting week one one rep. 960 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 5: He's probably not wrong. 961 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: He probably want a little bit more. Just is it 962 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 2: ever going to end? 963 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 5: I think you'd like him to sign his contract? 964 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what that's I don't know what's 965 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 2: going on there. There's no nobody down there is worried 966 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 2: about it. I'll tell you that. Like so, I don't 967 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 2: know if they're trying to lot try to figure it 968 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 2: out to where they can all stay all take a 969 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: little bit less Higgins, Chase and Burrow so that they 970 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 2: can all stick together. It feels like that's in play. 971 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 2: We'll see, we shall see. Can we do the ESPN 972 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 2: story you want to break? 973 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 3: We'll do it next segment there you go by the way, 974 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 3: go ahead and that's them for next segment as well. 975 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 4: Did you see what Victor Hoblin did at Olympia Fields, 976 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 4: which you've played. I've played, and I am flabbery asked. 977 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 3: By what he did? Baint the ocho on the back 978 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 3: seven under made seven twenty eight. 979 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: Right in the back. Yeah, all right, you have that 980 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 2: to look forward to, which is nice. 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It's Monday Night NFL Countdown. 989 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 2: Susie Colbert is out, replaced by longtime anchor Scott Van Pelt, 990 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 2: Marcus Spears, Ryan Clark, RG three, Adam Schefter, uh Michelle 991 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,359 Speaker 2: Biser Buck, Joe Buck's wife is now on the She's 992 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 2: on She's in the mix. Alex Smith and Larry Fitzgerald 993 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: also in the mix. I gotta tell you, I like 994 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 2: the random Moss you got mossed. 995 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I liked all that stuff. By the way, I 996 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 3: didn't realize that Susie was related to Stephen Colbert. 997 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 2: Luckily you had me having enough institutional knowledge of Susie 998 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 2: Colbert and Susie Colbert to know that those are different humans. 999 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 2: And I did get that one right. No, no s Young, 1000 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 2: no s Young, No r Moss no, no hassleback. 1001 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 3: Fine with no Stevie if that's additioned by subtraction. 1002 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 2: But Randy Moss randoms Yeah. To me, it feels like 1003 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 2: it was. I don't know whatever happened to random Oss. 1004 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 2: They're trying to figure out Susie Colber versus Susie Cole Colbert. 1005 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, K O, L B E R correct that that's correct. 1006 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 2: She was on She She anchored the You're Killing. 1007 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 4: It email UMO was playing with house money just has 1008 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 4: less house money now less now. 1009 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 2: She hosted the first ever show they used to show 1010 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 2: called ESPN Tonight on ESPN two, and it was her and 1011 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 2: Keith Oberman oh Man and over It's like in a 1012 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 2: leather jacket. 1013 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 8: And she was I think I think there were lawsuits threatened, 1014 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 8: and she was like, get me off of this show. 1015 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: She was like twenty four or something at that time. 1016 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 2: That was like in the mid nineties. 1017 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 3: She RG three is really ascended. 1018 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 2: They love him there, Yeah, they love him. Marcus Spears 1019 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 2: has been on their SEC coverage for the longest time, 1020 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 2: so he gets he gets to move over, and then 1021 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 2: Ryan Clark's been there. But yeah, I like the random Oss. 1022 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what though, you know what, you know, 1023 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 2: what's a big difference to me. My guess is on 1024 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 2: a price per show variable going from Randy Moss, Steve Young, 1025 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 2: Matt Hasselback. So yeah, but I'm sure it's I'm sure 1026 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 2: it's a you know, his daily rate versus Ryan Clark's 1027 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: Marcus Spears significantly more. 1028 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 5: Would be my guess that they got two for the 1029 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 5: price at one. 1030 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 2: Probably, Yeah, for sure, Yeah, for sure. Victor Hovlin, go, 1031 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 2: so this course is brutal. It is so hard, so hard, 1032 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 2: all right, So you're you're basically a scratch right close. 1033 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 2: And you you played, you played did you go white there? 1034 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 2: Do you play the member tees? 1035 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? And you shot seventy three okay from the member 1036 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 3: tees on a par seventy. The whites, there's the Blues, 1037 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 3: and then they play the Blacks. From the other blacks, 1038 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 3: it's rated. 1039 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 4: It's rated almost seventy eight, and it's in the slopes 1040 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 4: in the one fifties, So that means from the blacks, 1041 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 4: a true scratch is going to shoot on average seventy 1042 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 4: seven seventy eight on a par seventy. And this dude 1043 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 4: shot a sixty one. He went seven under on the 1044 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 4: back nine. There's only one par five on the back line. 1045 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 4: It's like five ninety. These guys can reach it because 1046 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 4: they can reach anything. 1047 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 3: That's the other thing I was. 1048 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 4: Saying to my buddies, Like I hit the ball a 1049 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 4: decent length. These guys all hit it three twenty, every 1050 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 4: single one of them. 1051 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, at all. 1052 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter if it's not because they can. 1053 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 2: It's so far down there that they can. 1054 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 4: But like a lot of these part fours are four 1055 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 4: ninety on the back they just make and the greens 1056 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 4: there are not easy. One thing that is wild to 1057 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 4: me is how TV, how little TV accurately shows elevation changes. 1058 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 2: Well, that had happened first time I played Mierfield. 1059 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 3: It's wild. 1060 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 2: I went, oh, this is not how I thought it 1061 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 2: was in anyway, shape or form. 1062 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:44,839 Speaker 4: So fourteen at Olympia, you hit off of a tee 1063 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 4: off off of a very elevated te fairway below you. 1064 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 4: Anything that misses the fairy rights and water. Anything goes 1065 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 4: left is in the trees. In jail, you can't get 1066 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 4: much closer than maybe one hundred and fifty yards for 1067 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 4: your second shot, which goes over water and then straight 1068 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 4: up like there's a wall of grass and then the 1069 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 4: green sits up on top of that. It's like a 1070 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 4: blind zega jet. Okay, it's one of the hardest holes. 1071 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,439 Speaker 4: And for them, they played it like four to seventy five, 1072 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 4: like it's absurd. Yeah, and they were all burning it 1073 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,320 Speaker 4: like for him to make. And then so that's fourteen 1074 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 4: fifteen is the par five. Sixteen's a downhill for them. 1075 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 4: Two hundred yard par three he birdied that too, and 1076 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,280 Speaker 4: then you have two long par fours. He burdied eighteen 1077 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 4: eighteen is like four to ninety. 1078 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 2: It's the game gets crazy. There are no easy So 1079 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 2: what do they do. Do they change the driver of 1080 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 2: the ball. 1081 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1082 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 4: They gotta do something. They're hitting it, they're hitting it 1083 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 4: all too far. 1084 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 2: He can't shoot sixty one at a place like that. No, 1085 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 2: final round of a big time tournament like that, No, 1086 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 2: you can't have that. Like so they're all bombing it 1087 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 2: too they're bombing it too far. So you're gonna have 1088 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 2: to either deaden the driver, dead in the ball. 1089 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 3: It's what happened. This is what really happened. 1090 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 4: It poured going into it, so they were able to 1091 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 4: kind of hold shots on the greens. That's one of 1092 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 4: the things that's very hard to do when that courses 1093 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 4: like crispy, and so I think it made it easier 1094 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 4: because sixty two was the previous best and that also 1095 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 4: happened this week Sam Burns and Max Homer. 1096 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 2: So you hat three in the low sixties this week. 1097 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 4: So that just shows like that just shows though when 1098 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,399 Speaker 4: they can how good these these guys are so good. 1099 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 3: Sixty one is absurd on that course. Absurd. 1100 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, none of these holes are easy, three of them. 1101 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 3: That's great. 1102 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 2: All right, final hour up next, the Guru joins us. 1103 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 2: Get your pens out, your note taking ready. 1104 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 3: Yep, get it done. 1105 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 2: We'll do some fantasy coming up next to us to 1106 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by bally Bet sports betting partner, 1107 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,439 Speaker 2: Your Cleveland Brown's coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. 1108 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet 1109 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 1: Coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. 1110 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 2: Cleveland Roumki Waste Recycling cycling leader and Cleveland family owned 1111 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 2: and operated. 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It 1121 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:48,360 Speaker 4: might be the best. 1122 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 3: How you doing, buddy, what's up, guys? 1123 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 7: I'm doing well. It is that time of the year. 1124 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 7: It's a good time to be alive. These next two 1125 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 7: to three weeks, it's going to be wild. The fantasy 1126 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 7: draft season, then. 1127 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 2: Is the perfect draft day on this NFL calendar, if 1128 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 2: you could anywhere you want it, where's the perfect place. 1129 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,399 Speaker 7: As long as we're outside of that third preseason game. 1130 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 7: You know, the whole schedule is kind of messed up here. 1131 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 7: Anyone who's played for a Wild Nose like it used 1132 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 7: to be, Like first game, we don't play our guys, 1133 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 7: and then we get maybe a dress rehearsal. In that 1134 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 7: final preseason game, it's all backups and you know, roster 1135 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 7: bubble guys. But that's not necessarily the case. But I 1136 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:33,720 Speaker 7: think we are good if we simply do our draft after. 1137 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,720 Speaker 7: You know, anytime from a week today to the opener 1138 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 7: is ideal. Let's get all the games out of the way. 1139 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 7: That would be Sunday. This Sunday at eight o'clock Texans 1140 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 7: and Saints is the final game of the preseason. That 1141 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 7: is the ideal time to draft. 1142 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 4: All right, And the ideal way to help yourself get 1143 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,919 Speaker 4: prepared is to go to Fantasy points dot com. Get 1144 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 4: yourself a subscription. That's where you will get the gurus 1145 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three fantasy football draft plan, plus the seventy 1146 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 4: players he likes the most in drafts this year. Of course, 1147 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 4: with the Big twelve which are his top players in 1148 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 4: the top one hundred that he keeps ending up with 1149 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 4: on his team. So let's just kick from a top level. 1150 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,800 Speaker 4: And obviously where you pick matters a lot, but just 1151 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 4: kind of generally speaking, trends or thoughts you want people 1152 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 4: to have going into drafts. What's the kind of the 1153 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 4: overarching you know, manifesto B for people. 1154 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 7: I think it's to get into the wide receiver business. 1155 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 7: I think people are drafting wide receivers more aggressively this year. 1156 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 7: There's a few reasons why. You know, the young stud 1157 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 7: receivers are really hard to come by. They're big time 1158 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 7: league winners. They're more available than the running backs, which 1159 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 7: are you know, the running backs are being dropped down 1160 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,319 Speaker 7: the board a little bit, getting devalued by the markets. 1161 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 7: So if for optimal roster construction, in my opinion, I 1162 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 7: think you just it's one of those you can't beat them, 1163 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 7: join them situations at wide receiver, because you know, you 1164 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 7: might think, oh, I'm gonna zig when they zag and 1165 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 7: you go running back heavy and then all of a sudden, 1166 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 7: your your number one receiver is a guy that's like 1167 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 7: ranked fifty seventh on everyone's board. So I like to 1168 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 7: balance it out, but an emphasis this year on wide receiver. 1169 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 7: There are very high number of running backs that you 1170 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 7: can get a little bit later that are good targets 1171 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,240 Speaker 7: around four or five, six, seven, eight nine, even beyond, 1172 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 7: like a James Cook in Buffalo, or of course my 1173 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 7: guy Rashad White, and then just let the let the 1174 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 7: draft come to you. There's no reason to go heavy 1175 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 7: on quarterback. I'm not into the top guys ever. You know, 1176 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,400 Speaker 7: I used to be a big Jaalen Hurts guy the 1177 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 7: last two years, but guess what now I'm out because 1178 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 7: he's QB three. Your guy Jasun Watson has been one 1179 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 7: of my top ROI guys. I know the preseason hasn't 1180 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 7: been dellar, but that could be completely meaningless. I love 1181 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 7: the weaponry and you know the cheat code is in effect. 1182 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 7: I love me some Cedric as I've told Nathan already 1183 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 7: a great kid and he's kicking butte. 1184 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's for sure. I mean, you see it on 1185 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,560 Speaker 2: the field. That's the thing that's tough this time of year. 1186 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 6: Though. 1187 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 2: You see these guys, you know, in a preseason game 1188 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 2: or for us with Tillman, who has these moments I 1189 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 2: think about I've seen justin Ross make all these plays 1190 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 2: down in Kansas City, but then you wonder how it 1191 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 2: translates onto the games that actually matter. How do you 1192 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 2: go and I obviously you do it better than anybody, 1193 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 2: but how do you go about deciding what's fact and 1194 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 2: what's fiction in the preseason? In camp? 1195 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1196 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,319 Speaker 7: I mean sometimes, like you know, if a guy that 1197 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 7: is like down in the depth jar a little bit 1198 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 7: like Tillman, you know, is certainly not starting as you 1199 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 7: guys know, but if the tape that you saw is confirmed. Oftentimes, 1200 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 7: I know people think preseason isn't all that great, but 1201 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 7: you know, I like to get my little thoughts confirmed 1202 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 7: in the preseason. And you know, for running backs, you know, 1203 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 7: how did they look in the preseason? Taj Spears is 1204 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 7: a great example. I was a huge Taj Spears person 1205 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 7: the entire season. He's the rookie for Tennessee. He's a 1206 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 7: little bit of a tweener. You know, he's not the 1207 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 7: biggest guy, so can he do it in the NFL? 1208 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 7: I know it's only preseason, but the guys look fantastic 1209 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 7: the last two weeks. So yeah, my love of Tajay 1210 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 7: Spears has already been confirmed to me. I also think 1211 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 7: at times, and this year is a little tricky. But 1212 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 7: you know, with quarterbacks, I feel like you can kind 1213 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 7: of tell, even in preseason early if they have it 1214 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 7: or not. I remember I go way back to Russell 1215 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 7: Wilson in twenty twelve. I'm like, this is unbelievable. Like 1216 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 7: this guy looks like he's been around five years. I 1217 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 7: think this is real and it was. Dak Prescott is 1218 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 7: another good example. So you know, every situation, you got 1219 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 7: a cherry pick. You know, and look at every situation individually. 1220 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 7: But I do get a lot out of the preseason. 1221 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 4: Which is is fun because that gives you something to 1222 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 4: watch there. It gives people something to watch and digest 1223 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 4: in these games because we know a lot of people 1224 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 4: are getting ready for fantasy football. I want to ask 1225 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 4: you about a particular position, and we know who the 1226 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,240 Speaker 4: top is Travis Kelce, but at the tight end spot, 1227 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 4: who are some of the guys that you like in 1228 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 4: the middle rounds? And then maybe is there somebody late 1229 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 4: that you think can be a nice upside play. 1230 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 6: Well. 1231 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 7: I am in on Kyle Pitt's full disclosure. I was 1232 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 7: not last year. I held off even though you know 1233 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 7: transcendent type of talent here. I was a little skeptical 1234 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 7: at his cost, which is now down, you know, one 1235 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 7: hundred percent. Basically, I mean like he's you know, his 1236 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 7: ADP was six thirty last year, thirty five. Now it's 1237 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 7: sixty sixty five. So I'll do that for sure. There's 1238 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 7: a guy with stud potential. I'm not counting on a breakout, 1239 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 7: but the buying opportunity is just too good to pass. 1240 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 7: And then Darren Waller, it's just one of those things 1241 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 7: like you don't need me to tell you this, but 1242 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 7: if he stays healthy, he's going to kick. But if 1243 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 7: he doesn't, he won't. But here's the bottom line. Talk 1244 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 7: about preseason thirty one year old Darren Waller coming off 1245 00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,919 Speaker 7: a tough year. It didn't go well with the Raider, 1246 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 7: but he's he can still do it. He's still got it. 1247 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 7: It's he's running really well in the preseason and showed 1248 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 7: well in the game the other night. So I love 1249 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 7: me some Darren Waller. And then the other Guy album 1250 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 7: gonna go right to the man that mister Segura has 1251 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 7: pumped up to me for two years in a row. 1252 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 7: And I've always been a David Nijoku person, been a 1253 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 7: little slow going but you know, from all accounts, still ascending, 1254 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 7: still hasn't had like the career year, and I know 1255 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 7: the chemistry with Watson's looking pretty good, which we kind 1256 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 7: of saw last year, so I do. I'm pretty darn 1257 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 7: high on David Nijoku, all right. 1258 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 4: I like that one, and I would agree with you 1259 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 4: on that one as well. I think for the Browns, 1260 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 4: obviously everybody knows Nick Chubb. I think Amari is still 1261 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 4: the number one receiver. I think Elijah Moore is going 1262 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 4: to get a ton of work. You got chief, and 1263 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 4: then obviously the great Nick Chubb. But Deshaun Watson I 1264 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 4: think is going to be a very good fantasy quarterback 1265 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 4: this season. We see it in his legs and then 1266 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 4: his ability to really throw the football. And I would 1267 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,919 Speaker 4: tell you, Guru, do not. He's only played one drive 1268 00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 4: in the preseason and he's been exactly He's been pretty 1269 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 4: good in practice and had yesterday one of the better 1270 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 4: days of practice he's had, so. 1271 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 3: I'm not concerned about him. 1272 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 4: I want to ask you about kind of one area 1273 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 4: that I think in the past has always been kind 1274 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 4: of good value as finding if you can you know 1275 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 4: that rookie running back who's in the right situation where 1276 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 4: maybe they're an injury away, maybe they're at in a 1277 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 4: timeshare situation. You know, Tank Biggsby comes the mind down 1278 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 4: in Jacksville. Maybe he's gonna get goal line carries. We'll 1279 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 4: see if that actually ends up happening or not with 1280 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 4: ETN down there. But who are some of those young 1281 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 4: rookie running backs that you can get usually later in 1282 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 4: drafts that are not you know, to start, but they're 1283 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 4: kind of like those lottery ticket guys for you. 1284 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, Khalil Herbert's probably not that, but I 1285 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 7: do like him. We're looking at looking at guys going 1286 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 7: off the board like one hundred plus. You know, he 1287 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 7: isn't a dogfight for snaps, no doubt about it. I 1288 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 7: will absolutely go with my guy Taj Spears. They're going 1289 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 7: to change things in Tennessee. Like the old days are 1290 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 7: kind over. They tried to trade Derrick Henry. They really 1291 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 7: found those takers, so they'll just roll with him. But 1292 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 7: they want to be a little bit more dynamic. They 1293 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 7: want to throw it Kaj Spears. There's nothing this kid 1294 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 7: came through in the field. Put him in the wildcat 1295 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 7: no problem return game running it obviously short yardage. I mean, 1296 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 7: he's really good. I also love and Nathan. As you know, 1297 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 7: I go to the Combine every year, and a lot 1298 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 7: of the reasons I go is just to chop it 1299 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 7: up with these guys. So I have my list of 1300 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 7: players I want to talk with and interview and I 1301 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 7: get them set up. I did that with Spears. I 1302 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 7: also did that with Chase Brown, great dude, twin brother 1303 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 7: in the NFL. Like boy, he's jacked up too, by 1304 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 7: the way. I couldn't believe it. I watched him in 1305 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 7: the mobile at the Senior Bowl for three days and 1306 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 7: he looked good. I mean, he's not probably going to 1307 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 7: be like a Nick Chubb like stud, but he's like 1308 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 7: a one B type of guy. I think he'll carve 1309 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 7: out a role alongside Joe Mixon, and if Mixon does 1310 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 7: in fact go down, I think we're looking darn good 1311 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 7: there Zamir White for now, but I think we are 1312 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 7: looking at Josh Jacobs likely getting into camp. He has 1313 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 7: no leverage before you know, the opener here Kenny Gainwell 1314 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 7: and Philly is it's going to be like an ugly 1315 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 7: three headed monster. But they do like him a lot 1316 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 7: in short yards. As you guys, may know from watching 1317 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 7: the Eagles. Browns Uh, he's kind of our lead guy. 1318 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 7: So there's a good one right there. I'm not that 1319 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 7: big into Devon a chain. He's got a little hurt 1320 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 7: by the way. I've always skeptical of these smaller guys. 1321 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 7: But yeah, I think I mentioned some good ones there. 1322 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,919 Speaker 7: And we'll see about the Jonathan Taylor situation because that 1323 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 7: that is pretty dark scary to me right now. That 1324 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 7: will be Evan Hall and then Deon Jackson kind of 1325 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 7: splitting that. I might go Evan Hall there if we 1326 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 7: have to go long term on the chance that Taylor 1327 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 7: is traded Gury. 1328 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 2: You mentioned, you mentioned the chief, mentioned Tilman as well. 1329 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,959 Speaker 2: Who else do you like on our team for this year? 1330 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 7: Well, I'm you know, I've tried to put in paperwork 1331 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 7: to adopt Elijah Moore a couple of times because I 1332 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 7: do love him as his son, but they're not getting 1333 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 7: back to me on that. Uh, you know, oversold him 1334 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 7: last year a little bit. Do not care because if 1335 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 7: you have the gift of sight, then you know he's 1336 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 7: an absolute baller who commands the ball. So I do 1337 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 7: love him. Cooper Hey, rock solid last year. I've been 1338 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,919 Speaker 7: a big DPJ guy as well, but the nice guy 1339 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 7: as well. Talk with him at the comb and I 1340 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 7: went I went right to DPJ. By the way, I 1341 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 7: didn't call m Donovan. I was like, yeah, what the PPJ. 1342 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 7: He didn't miss a beat. So we like that. Tillman, 1343 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 7: by the way, was a great kid. You know his 1344 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 7: dad player. 1345 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:37,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, we like him. 1346 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 7: Really nice guy. Yeah. So I'm kind of really all 1347 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 7: in on you guys here all five starters returning on 1348 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 7: the old line. 1349 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 2: I'm in Let me, how do you know we we had? 1350 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,720 Speaker 2: I'm curious just your thought the way you go about this, 1351 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,440 Speaker 2: because we have the six games with Watson last year, 1352 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 2: and that's what we're going to do offensively is very 1353 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 2: very different than what you got in the six games 1354 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 2: last year. As you're trying to prognosticate what a team 1355 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 2: will what this team specifically would look like offensively, how 1356 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 2: are you where are you getting with that in terms 1357 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 2: of what it will look like. 1358 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 7: I look at, honestly, the moves that they make or 1359 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 7: don't make, and they made the move for Elijah Moore. 1360 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 7: They made the move, and I thought this too. I 1361 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 7: think I talk with Nate before the draft that they're 1362 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,200 Speaker 7: not done adding receivers and oh lo and behold, they 1363 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 7: had ceda tillman. I think that says a lot. This 1364 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 7: time last year, I had a somewhat hot take about 1365 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 7: Kareem Han, who, by the way, I loved when he 1366 01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:35,919 Speaker 7: came out in twenty seventeen. But I thought I saw 1367 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 7: a clearly declining player. So I thought, well, he's probably 1368 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 7: on his way out, which has been the case, and 1369 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 7: they have not done really anything yet. I know Jerome 1370 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 7: four is on the shelf. So my takeaway and thought 1371 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 7: has been that the twenty twenty three Browns will need 1372 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 7: less from guys not named Nick Chubb this year, which 1373 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 7: means they'll probably throw the ball, throw it around a 1374 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 7: little bit more with Shaw Watson, who, by the way, 1375 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 7: I still can't get over the twenty twenty season to 1376 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 7: watch and that I thought he was arguably the most 1377 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 7: brilliant quarterback that year. From the pocket. It was a 1378 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,840 Speaker 7: little bit of a rough start that year, but man 1379 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 7: did he roll. It was impressive. So I still haven't 1380 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 7: forgotten that. I'd be fascinating to see if he can 1381 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 7: get back to that level, because that was a very 1382 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 7: high level, I thought. 1383 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 4: And he's got the weapons, he's got the talent. We've 1384 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 4: seen some of those throws that you're talking about here 1385 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 4: in camp, and I can't wait to get to the 1386 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 4: regular season for it. I think that will be very, 1387 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 4: very fun. All Right, this is one that I always 1388 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 4: like to ask, and I feel like maybe you've given 1389 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 4: the answer with Spears in Tennessee. But who's like the 1390 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 4: one guy that has found his way onto more of 1391 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,919 Speaker 4: your teams that you've drafted than anybody else. 1392 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,640 Speaker 7: Oh boy, well, I'm going to go with a guy 1393 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,080 Speaker 7: that I did oversell last year. I got a little excited. 1394 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 7: It actually reminded me of there. It reminds me of 1395 01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 7: a tight end. I got a little too excited about. 1396 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,920 Speaker 7: I had to apologize. That guy's name is Travis Kelcey 1397 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,640 Speaker 7: and he's gonna go down as the goat. So I 1398 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 7: actually once apologized. I am so sorry for pushing the 1399 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 7: future Hall of Famer. But it's the same team. It's 1400 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 7: sky Moore. I'm a massive sky More guy. Great kid, 1401 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:17,479 Speaker 7: I go there. 1402 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 6: I look there. 1403 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 7: First, well, I look at the tape and then I 1404 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 7: talked to the kid. We did a twenty minute interview 1405 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 7: with him on Sirius. I thought it was fantastic. You know, 1406 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 7: last year. Everything was. It was tough. You know, Andy's 1407 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 7: offense very complicated. You got to be on the same page, 1408 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 7: you know, like the non you know, like verbal communication 1409 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 7: on the field if you will that Travis Kelce is 1410 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 7: kind of mastered all off season. Sky said the all 1411 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 7: the right things about getting on the same page. He's 1412 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 7: a great kid. He's like a running back with the 1413 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:50,360 Speaker 7: ball in his hand. Great short area burst, great huge 1414 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 7: hands ten inches plus. So I think he's going to 1415 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,640 Speaker 7: lead the Chiefs and wide receiver catches and be and 1416 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 7: go down as the sleeper receiver of the Year. 1417 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 4: Let's go Sky Moore write that one down there and 1418 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 4: Guru tell them how they can get all your great 1419 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 4: content on Serious XM Fantasy Sports Radio and at Fantasy 1420 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 4: points dot com. 1421 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be nine to no no, my bad, 1422 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,080 Speaker 7: seven and nine. I almost changed my own show time 1423 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 7: seven and nine Bay through Friday, and of course Fantasy 1424 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 7: points dot Com. And if you are a data person, 1425 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 7: as you know, Nate, we did launch our entire our 1426 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 7: own data company here Fantasy Points Data, where we've got 1427 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 7: you know, seven hundred and fifty plus data points on 1428 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 7: every play as we've charted the last two seasons, A 1429 01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 7: massive endeavor, but a game changer. And we've got, you know, 1430 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,520 Speaker 7: some really good exotic stats, like how about this one 1431 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 7: first read target share? In about six weeks, you call 1432 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,960 Speaker 7: me back and I can tell you who is getting 1433 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:58,520 Speaker 7: the highest percentage of first read targets for your Cleveland brown. 1434 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Wow, that's good. 1435 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 6: I like that. 1436 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 3: That is good stuff. 1437 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:02,920 Speaker 4: That's fun, and that's tough for people to be able 1438 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 4: to dive into and then you can try to find 1439 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,000 Speaker 4: your own little edges in there. 1440 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 7: I like that a lot, hundred percent. Yeah, and the 1441 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 7: tool is very user friendly as well to go through 1442 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 7: and sift through all the data filtering that like you 1443 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 7: would not believe. So yeah, we're fired up and it's 1444 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 7: going to be another great year. 1445 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 2: Certainly is always great talking to about guru. 1446 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 7: You got it, fellas, talk to you next time. 1447 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 6: All right. 1448 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 2: That's John Hanson, the Guru Fantasy XM Fantasy points dot com. 1449 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,680 Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns twenty twenty three schedule is here. 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There 1460 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 3: aren't a ton. 1461 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,840 Speaker 2: There's less than a hand, less than the amount of 1462 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 2: digits on a hand demerits out of me. 1463 01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 5: At one point I was keeping tabs on both of you. 1464 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way. I was five. 1465 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:39,840 Speaker 6: There's zero chance. 1466 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,840 Speaker 2: There's but more than five zero chance that'd be fair. 1467 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 2: I have a head start because I can always hear 1468 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 2: myself when they ask if we're ready. 1469 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 5: So that's because that gives a gird out for just 1470 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 5: him not. 1471 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 3: But it's also true. It's actually true. 1472 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,400 Speaker 2: And it's true that I have that. Now, you could 1473 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 2: override that if you had your ears, if your head, 1474 01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,000 Speaker 2: your headset in as soon as I test, you could 1475 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:00,679 Speaker 2: test as well. 1476 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 3: I could. But then I also don't want in case 1477 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 3: it's up the words. 1478 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 2: It's true, that's true, gotta be plugged in kids. All right, 1479 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:16,639 Speaker 2: this is the ringer Danny hype Heifetz haipits top twenty 1480 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 2: five past catching units. 1481 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 3: How about this? 1482 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:21,680 Speaker 2: Have you looked at it? 1483 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,639 Speaker 3: I know where we're ranked. That's why I I don't 1484 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 3: know where I sent. 1485 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know where we're ranked. 1486 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so. 1487 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to say, let me think, let me just 1488 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 2: try to do. I'm gonna here's what we're gonna do. 1489 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:36,759 Speaker 2: Let's have a little fun here, kids. 1490 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 3: I think it's easier if you start, like, start at 1491 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 3: the top. 1492 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to start at the top. I'm going to 1493 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 2: start at the top, and I'm going to tell you 1494 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 2: the ones that I think for sure they would have 1495 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:54,440 Speaker 2: ranked ahead of us. Okay, okay, in no particular order. Cincinnati, 1496 01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:01,679 Speaker 2: since he I'm gonna go this is past catchers. 1497 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm just skipping through light a heater. 1498 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:14,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Cincinnati. Okay, I'm gonna go Miami. Yeah, 1499 01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Eagles. 1500 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah I would that's I would be doing that as well. 1501 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go there Seahawks. Okay, so this is not 1502 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 2: running backs. 1503 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,559 Speaker 3: No, they are there, or do they? They are counting 1504 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,320 Speaker 3: their counting, They count Yeah, forty nine ers. Yeah, I 1505 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:42,640 Speaker 3: like that. 1506 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:49,679 Speaker 5: Are you trying to do the top. 1507 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 2: I'm trying, no, no, no, I'm just trying to guess the 1508 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,600 Speaker 2: ones that they would have ranked ahead of US Chargers. 1509 01:10:55,960 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 3: Yay, I like the chargers. Yeah, you're forgetting one. 1510 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 2: Is there an obvious one that I'm missing? 1511 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 3: Only one? It's all only one that I would call 1512 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:05,639 Speaker 3: it an obvious one? 1513 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 6: Are they? 1514 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 2: Did they go with jeff Jeffs and Jefferson Vikings just 1515 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 2: because Jefferson h Okay, all right, I would think that. 1516 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,479 Speaker 2: So that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I 1517 01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,759 Speaker 2: would say we could be anywhere between eight and twelve. 1518 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,559 Speaker 3: Okay, you'd be right. We're at nine or at number nine, 1519 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 3: all right. 1520 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:24,840 Speaker 4: The only one that's ahead of us that you did 1521 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 4: not list was Dallas Cede Lambrandon, Cooks, Michael Gallup, Jalen Tolbert, 1522 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,480 Speaker 4: Tony Pollard, Jake Ferguson. Now, what's interesting to me about. 1523 01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,639 Speaker 2: So Lamb's higher end. Yes, he's the highest end. 1524 01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,720 Speaker 3: Cooks is Cooks his high end. 1525 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:38,640 Speaker 7: He is. 1526 01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 3: It's one thousand yards every year. 1527 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 2: He does, gets one thousand yards every year. 1528 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it actually goes They've got since he's got 1529 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:51,480 Speaker 4: to be one nanc one Philly, two Niners, three Seattle, 1530 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 4: four Vikings, five Chargers, six Cowboys, seven Dolphins eight because 1531 01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 4: Dolphins really have Tyree. 1532 01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,800 Speaker 3: Kill and Waddle. And then it's like, but that those 1533 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 3: two are yeah, Brown's nine, where are the Jets? Listen? 1534 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 3: Now it gets weird. Now it gets strange, and you 1535 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:10,759 Speaker 3: could make the case. 1536 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,640 Speaker 4: I think you're right. Eight to twelve for us, I 1537 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,960 Speaker 4: think that is right. We like obviously, you know Elijah Moore. 1538 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,720 Speaker 3: I think a little bit more than people outside do 1539 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,760 Speaker 3: based on at least his production two years. But here's 1540 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 3: where it gets weird. Number ten. 1541 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 4: He has the Falcons, Drake London, Maccollins, Scott Miller, He's 1542 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:37,760 Speaker 4: got Bijon, Kyle Pitts and John news Smith Nope and 1543 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 4: Patterson Okay, No. Eleven, eleven the Raiders just because of Devant, Davante, Adams, 1544 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:50,960 Speaker 4: Jacoby Myers, Hunter Renfro, Josh Jacobs, Michael Meyer, that tight. 1545 01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 3: End from from Notre Dame, right. 1546 01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:55,559 Speaker 2: Michael Mayer Mayor Yeah, yeah. 1547 01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,479 Speaker 4: Twelve Pittsburgh, and I think Pittsburgh, you can make case 1548 01:12:59,520 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 4: could be high. 1549 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh should go up with Pickens. 1550 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:05,000 Speaker 4: And Deontay Johnson, George Pickens, Alan Robinson, Najie Harris, Pat 1551 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 4: Friarmouth Like that's a legit group. 1552 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's higher. So I understand Jefferson's greatness. 1553 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:16,120 Speaker 4: So and then Hockinson, Hockinson, they got him the balls 1554 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 4: from Detroit, Like, this is still one of the most 1555 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,839 Speaker 4: stupefying tight end out of Iowa. 1556 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 2: In the second round to replace him, yeah, well, Laporte 1557 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,760 Speaker 2: had one. Yeah, Sam Laporta, they had one, and then 1558 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 2: they drafted very strange. I don't know, they don't want 1559 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:29,559 Speaker 2: to pay him. I have no idea. 1560 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 4: Thirteen Jags, Calvin Ridley, Christian kirk, z A Jones, etn 1561 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 4: and Evan Ingram. 1562 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:35,960 Speaker 2: I like them better than the Falcons. 1563 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 4: I like that group better than Falcons too. Fourteen Washington, McLaurin, 1564 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,479 Speaker 4: dots And Samuel Antonio, Gibson, Logan Thomas. 1565 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:45,719 Speaker 3: Fifteen Detroit. 1566 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,000 Speaker 4: I'm on Ross, Saint Brown, Marvin Jones, Josh Renolds, Jamison Williams, 1567 01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,639 Speaker 4: Jamiir Gibbs, Sam Laporta. I think if they had Jameson 1568 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 4: Williams for the full season, they might be up higher. 1569 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:59,640 Speaker 4: Ravens at sixteen, Beckham Bateman, Flowers, Agalore Dobbins, Andrews. I mean, 1570 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 4: you can be in case they could be higher, but 1571 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 4: they haven't seen it. From the receivers. 1572 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:02,920 Speaker 2: No. 1573 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 4: Seventeen New Orleans wide receivers elive Michael Thomas, Rashid Shaheed, 1574 01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 4: running backs Camarjamal Williams, tight end, Juwan Johnson, and then 1575 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 4: they also have Taysom Hill. How about this eighteen for 1576 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:18,760 Speaker 4: the Bills Stefan Diggs, Gabe Davis, Trent Sherfield, James Cook, 1577 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 4: Dalton Kincaid. 1578 01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:23,720 Speaker 2: They eighteen. They to me, there was a window. It 1579 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,840 Speaker 2: reminds me of the Cowboys from a couple of years 1580 01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,800 Speaker 2: ago where there was there. It feels like, go win 1581 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl right now, Yep, it's all lining up 1582 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 2: for you. When they had Amari and they had CD 1583 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,400 Speaker 2: and they had Gallop and all of that. The two 1584 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 2: running backs. I feel like the Bills are that like 1585 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,840 Speaker 2: last year, like last year was their year. They needed 1586 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 2: to sort it out and they didn't. They didn't, and 1587 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,839 Speaker 2: then now they're kind of Stephen A was reporting Stefan 1588 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 2: Diggs wants out. So there's they got a lot they're 1589 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:48,880 Speaker 2: dealing with. 1590 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,439 Speaker 4: Nineteen the Bucks, Mike Evans, Godwin Russell Gate, like just 1591 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 4: Mike Evans and Godwin should bump this group way up. Yeah, 1592 01:14:56,720 --> 01:15:04,519 Speaker 4: Rashad White, Kate Otten, twenty the Jets, Garrett Wilson, Cory Davis, 1593 01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 4: Alan Lizzard, McCole, Hardman, Breisee Hall, Dalvin Cook, Tyler Conklin. 1594 01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:15,000 Speaker 4: That's twentieth, Get up twenty first, Kansas City, Valvas, Scantling, Candies, 1595 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 4: Tony sky Moore, Justin Ross, Jerrick McKinnon, Travis Kelce, Rashie Rice. 1596 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 8: If you're overvaluing like the Vikings because of Justin Jefferson, 1597 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,120 Speaker 8: the same thing with the Chiefs. 1598 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,960 Speaker 4: Like with a Diggs too, with Buffalo, and then how 1599 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 4: about this one Rams Cooper cup Van, Jefferson, Ben Scaronik, 1600 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 4: I mean the rest of their things, Poka Nakua to 1601 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,320 Speaker 4: to at Well, Tyler Higbee. 1602 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:38,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're lost. 1603 01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,679 Speaker 5: Tennessee's twenty second because of Cooper Cup. 1604 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, Tennessee Hopkins, Burks, Derrick, Henry chig Akwonko, I mean 1605 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:51,599 Speaker 4: no clue, no Denver's at twenty four with Jerry, Judy Cortland, Sutton, 1606 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,400 Speaker 4: Marvin Mims, Javonte and Greg Dolsic. 1607 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 3: That seems low to me. The Colts. 1608 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 4: That lists one thousand people for the Colts they're at 1609 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,720 Speaker 4: twenty five, the Bears with d J April Mooney Colecombe 1610 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:03,599 Speaker 4: at twenty six. 1611 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 2: They should be They're better than that. 1612 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Packers twenty seven, Watson, Romeo DoBeS, Jayden Reed who 1613 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,240 Speaker 4: they drafted the second around, Aaron Jones, Luke Musgrave rookie 1614 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,880 Speaker 4: tight end. Giants made a lot of moves in They're 1615 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,799 Speaker 4: twenty eighth. Slayton Hodgens, Paris Campbell, Sterling Shepherd, Wondale Robinson, 1616 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 4: Jalen Hyatt, Saquon. 1617 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:20,759 Speaker 3: Barkley, Darren Waller. 1618 01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:25,360 Speaker 4: Feels like they would be better than that Arizona, Marquise Brown, 1619 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:31,919 Speaker 4: Rondell Moore, zach Ertz. Yeah, the Panthers, Theland DJ hark. 1620 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a mess. 1621 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,759 Speaker 4: New England thirty one, Juju Smith, Schuster or Devonte Parker, 1622 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,320 Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne, more Hunter. 1623 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:40,720 Speaker 2: Hew England's might be the worst. 1624 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 3: Texans third two. 1625 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,639 Speaker 4: Oh yeah you sneak O'Collins, Robert Woods, no Brown, Tank, 1626 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 4: del John match isn't John Minshi back Dalton. 1627 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:53,040 Speaker 2: John Mitchi is back, and yeah they should be better 1628 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,000 Speaker 2: than Nico Collins can play a little bit. They I'd 1629 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,880 Speaker 2: have them better than New England. Yep So all right, 1630 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 2: So we're about where we that we ought to be. 1631 01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so excited. 1632 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 4: I got us right, But I mean when you see 1633 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,680 Speaker 4: other teams like the Jets at like twenty. 1634 01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to make sense of them. Man, Greg 1635 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,760 Speaker 2: Newsome coming up next to listen to Cleveland Browns Daily 1636 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 2: on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1637 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett. 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What did you 1648 01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,799 Speaker 9: feel like you guys gained as a secondary specific also? 1649 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you know, having an opportunity to play against, 1650 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,360 Speaker 10: you know, a Super Bowl contender team that was just 1651 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 10: in the Super Bowl is amazing for us as a 1652 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 10: team in general. It showed us, you know, where we 1653 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,840 Speaker 10: are at currently, and you know, we got some ways 1654 01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,480 Speaker 10: to go. But I thought we went out there, you know, competed. 1655 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 10: Uh So I was excited by you know what the 1656 01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,599 Speaker 10: things we put on tape out there did. 1657 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 9: Was there Spelton specifically, you can were saying, you know, wow, 1658 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:27,160 Speaker 9: you know one positive or negatives like we need you know, 1659 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,160 Speaker 9: I don't just that you learn from those. 1660 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,120 Speaker 10: I mean positive is just our d line man, Like 1661 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 10: they were doing amazing out there against you know, arguably 1662 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:38,760 Speaker 10: one of the best old lines in the league. So 1663 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 10: you know, just seeing that super positive, and you know 1664 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,040 Speaker 10: it's always we always got stuff to work on. So 1665 01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,840 Speaker 10: I think we took a you know, a great step forward. 1666 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 6: It seems like. 1667 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,240 Speaker 11: Compared to last year in those joint practices, especially like 1668 01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:51,720 Speaker 11: this year, it just seemed like you guys as a 1669 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,200 Speaker 11: defense made it's so much harder on those cast catchers 1670 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:55,880 Speaker 11: and it's a great cast catching Where do you feel 1671 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,840 Speaker 11: like there was a difference. 1672 01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,120 Speaker 6: There compared to a year ago? For sure? And I think. 1673 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,720 Speaker 10: Talent wise, like I feel like we We've always had 1674 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 10: a lot of talent, but I just feel like, you know, 1675 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 10: what we do outside of the building, you know, always 1676 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:11,639 Speaker 10: together w literally every single day guys are doing stuff together, 1677 01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 10: getting food together. So I just think that camaraderie that 1678 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,719 Speaker 10: we have not only in the secondary, around the whole 1679 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 10: entire defense and the whole team is just amazing. So 1680 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,040 Speaker 10: I think it it's definitely showing on the field. 1681 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,880 Speaker 12: Time missed the concern to you at all. And do 1682 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,679 Speaker 12: you feel like you're still on pace to be where 1683 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:26,120 Speaker 12: you want to. 1684 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 6: Be week one? Yeah? For sure. 1685 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,240 Speaker 10: Nah, I mean sadly, I've you know, had this happen before, 1686 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 10: but nah, you know, I'm I'm always engaged, you know. 1687 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 10: I I I credit myself on being, you know, one 1688 01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 10: of the smartest guys out there. So I'm definitely you know, 1689 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,680 Speaker 10: able to take a lot of mental reps. And I 1690 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,120 Speaker 10: think it just allows other guys to go out there 1691 01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 10: and make plays like I think me, like I said before, 1692 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 10: like me being out there. Obviously I would love to 1693 01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,360 Speaker 10: be out there, but it it gave guys like you know, 1694 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,639 Speaker 10: Caleb Biggers and Cam Mitchell, gave them some more reps 1695 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 10: and show what they can do. So now I kind 1696 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,639 Speaker 10: of try to find a positive in every negative I can. 1697 01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,600 Speaker 12: Obviously, you know him super well, but he feels like 1698 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,880 Speaker 12: he's showing up a lot what have you seen from him? 1699 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,320 Speaker 12: Are you how impressed with you are the quick I 1700 01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 12: guess transition to the. 1701 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,640 Speaker 10: NFL for him. Man, I'm super proud of him. Uh, 1702 01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 10: He's a guy you know, came in and mistakes that 1703 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,840 Speaker 10: he's made doesn't make him twice. And I'm not like, 1704 01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:22,000 Speaker 10: I'm not really too excited right now for him, honestly, 1705 01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,760 Speaker 10: because I expected him to do this, Like I said 1706 01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,640 Speaker 10: it from the jump, Like even before I was like 1707 01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:28,920 Speaker 10: cam Mitch was one of the best corners in college 1708 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,639 Speaker 10: football and he fell to us, So you. 1709 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:32,720 Speaker 6: Know, we'll definitely take him. 1710 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 10: But I'm not really too excited for what he's doing 1711 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,320 Speaker 10: because I expect him to be like this. I expect 1712 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 10: him to get out there and make plays, like we 1713 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,120 Speaker 10: have high expectations for our room. So like, that's nothing 1714 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:43,040 Speaker 10: that I haven't seen before. 1715 01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,479 Speaker 13: Players and coaches have talked about the defense being a 1716 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,320 Speaker 13: little bit more simplified this year, or is that what 1717 01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 13: we're seeing out here to this hot start and you 1718 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,040 Speaker 13: guys kind of seeming to click early. 1719 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,160 Speaker 10: Oh for sure. There's definitely some stuff though that we 1720 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,840 Speaker 10: kind of mix up. But I think it's just you know, 1721 01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,840 Speaker 10: the sense of urgency that coach Swartz, you know co 1722 01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 10: with like he doesn't accept you know, mediocre. So you 1723 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 10: know when we when we get out there, we get 1724 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 10: new coverages and things like that. Guys aren't making the 1725 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,599 Speaker 10: same mistake twice, which is a good thing. Like it's 1726 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,040 Speaker 10: definitely some mistakes being made still, but I think the 1727 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,080 Speaker 10: sense of urgency that we're playing with and you know, 1728 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,680 Speaker 10: learning with, and our teachers are teaching with is just 1729 01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:18,800 Speaker 10: you know, at of all time high. 1730 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,040 Speaker 14: When you look at that defensive throwing down if it's 1731 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:24,760 Speaker 14: been rebuilt with miles there and now that you've got 1732 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,400 Speaker 14: to actually see it in motion, Just what does that 1733 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 14: do for you? Is someone in the secondary knowing that 1734 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 14: you can have that type of pressure ready to go 1735 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,360 Speaker 14: up front versus maybe years past. 1736 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean just thank you lord. I mean that 1737 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:43,040 Speaker 10: ball gotta come out at super fast. Like I mean 1738 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 10: just even sitting there the game before against the Commanders 1739 01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:50,400 Speaker 10: and just saying, you know, the ability to get safeties 1740 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,799 Speaker 10: from a holding penalty and things like that, like that's amazing. 1741 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,280 Speaker 6: So you know, I'm I'm glad we got those guys. 1742 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 10: On my team and makes my job a lot easier, 1743 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,720 Speaker 10: makes us a lot you know, more confident on the 1744 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,920 Speaker 10: back end knowing you know, we could be real sticky 1745 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,519 Speaker 10: in coverage cause those guys that will get there. 1746 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,120 Speaker 15: When we talk to Grant at in West Virginia, uh, 1747 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,840 Speaker 15: he was talking about the fact that he doesn't feel 1748 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,280 Speaker 15: he's reached his potential yet and that you know, he's 1749 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 15: got the bar set at great and he's really hurting 1750 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,000 Speaker 15: on there this year. So I'm wondering, you know about you, 1751 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,040 Speaker 15: where do you have your bar set for yourself? 1752 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,960 Speaker 6: And what are you meaning for this year? Yeah, you know, 1753 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 6: I don't. 1754 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,960 Speaker 10: I definitely don't think I'm even close to know the 1755 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,280 Speaker 10: level that I can get to. But you know, for me, 1756 01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,800 Speaker 10: it's just coming out every day, just working. You know, 1757 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,000 Speaker 10: I kind of try to speak stuff into existence, but 1758 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,920 Speaker 10: my my stuff is just more gonna come from me 1759 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,439 Speaker 10: being out there playing Like I don't wanna say too 1760 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,400 Speaker 10: much or just wanna go out there, you know, and 1761 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 10: and make some strides every year. Uh, but I definitely 1762 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 10: don't think I'm close to my potential. 1763 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,160 Speaker 9: Great how much how exciting is just kind of see 1764 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 9: the mixing and matching that that Schwartz is doing with 1765 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 9: between the safeties and the corners and how he's utilizing 1766 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:56,000 Speaker 9: all of you guys. 1767 01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,280 Speaker 6: Uh, he's doing an amazing job. You know. 1768 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,639 Speaker 10: I feel like we cross train a lot of people 1769 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,760 Speaker 10: where we can do a lot of things, and you know, 1770 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:04,400 Speaker 10: being able to do that, I think you kind of 1771 01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,439 Speaker 10: mess up the defense, you know, with maybe you having 1772 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,040 Speaker 10: you know, MJ inside and then I'm outside, like you 1773 01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,800 Speaker 10: can't get a tail on us. So I think with 1774 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 10: shworts having like that multiple that multiple defense is amazing. 1775 01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,519 Speaker 11: I know we haven't seen everything, but do you feel 1776 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,439 Speaker 11: like there's still more that you haven't even seen the 1777 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:21,479 Speaker 11: the gym might throw. 1778 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:25,200 Speaker 6: At you guys. Uh, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, 1779 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,839 Speaker 6: I think he has so much stuff. 1780 01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,360 Speaker 10: But you know, he said we were one of the 1781 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,679 Speaker 10: best groups of being able to you know, get information 1782 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,840 Speaker 10: and retain it and you know, put it on tape. 1783 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 10: So he definitely probably got some more stuff out there 1784 01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:37,000 Speaker 10: that we haven't seen. 1785 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 12: It kind of call over up Christ's question, do you 1786 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,639 Speaker 12: f are you pleased with what you think your role's 1787 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,720 Speaker 12: gonna be and how Jim is gonna use you, whether 1788 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,639 Speaker 12: it's outside, the combination of outside and side. 1789 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm super pleased. 1790 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,800 Speaker 10: I mean I'm once again able to show my versatility 1791 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,720 Speaker 10: when I am inside, you know, gladly I won't be 1792 01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,479 Speaker 10: you know, I said, like last year, I kind of 1793 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:57,440 Speaker 10: felt like more of a little bit of a linebacker. 1794 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,320 Speaker 10: But I think my role is amazing and he's expecting 1795 01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,040 Speaker 10: me to do a lot of things on the inside, 1796 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,880 Speaker 10: so I'm super excited for it. Uh, you know, I'm 1797 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:07,600 Speaker 10: just trying to do whatever it takes for us to 1798 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:08,720 Speaker 10: get to where we need to get to. 1799 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:13,519 Speaker 14: How difficult are these receivers making your guys' job on 1800 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,919 Speaker 14: the defensive side and also making you guys better the players? 1801 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean these receivers are amazing, you know, with cool. 1802 01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,719 Speaker 10: Elijah DBJ said, you gotta see Austin out here playing 1803 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,120 Speaker 10: like like a number one somewhere too. Like, we have 1804 01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 10: so many guys that do so many different things, so 1805 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,800 Speaker 10: I feel like we're prepared, Like even going into the 1806 01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,600 Speaker 10: Eagles practice, I feel like our guys have you know, 1807 01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,720 Speaker 10: put us in position to get to that practice and 1808 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,720 Speaker 10: you know, dominate. So our our guys are amazing and 1809 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,400 Speaker 10: I'm definitely uh thankful for 'em. 1810 01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,200 Speaker 15: Do you feel like, uh, there are other defensive backs 1811 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 15: on this team that have shown they are as good 1812 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:49,960 Speaker 15: in the slot as. 1813 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,679 Speaker 10: You have found the last year or so ah, for sure, 1814 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,080 Speaker 10: I think everybody, Like I said, I I feel like 1815 01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,719 Speaker 10: our sixth quote unquote six corner would be a starter 1816 01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:01,280 Speaker 10: some or else, Like I feel like a room is 1817 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:06,040 Speaker 10: that deep. You know, you got Zoe out there, Zoe 1818 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:10,679 Speaker 10: Burns playing amazing, Caleb Bigger's playing amazing, Cam Mitchell playing amazing. 1819 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,679 Speaker 10: We got guys literally that I feel like can easily 1820 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,400 Speaker 10: step in if needed to play the slot, play outside, 1821 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,040 Speaker 10: like I feel our our whole entire room is good 1822 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,760 Speaker 10: enough to literally if they weren't in this room, they 1823 01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 10: would be playing on another field. 1824 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,519 Speaker 2: Talked about the importance of leverage and Sports's defense. Is 1825 01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,000 Speaker 2: it different this year how they're teaching you leverage and 1826 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,280 Speaker 2: the importance of that or is this something maybe you're 1827 01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,000 Speaker 2: used to in previous. 1828 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:39,639 Speaker 10: Years, Mitch, just more like you must stay like if 1829 01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,040 Speaker 10: we get beat, say we're supposed to be outside leverage 1830 01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,000 Speaker 10: and we get beat to outside, oh, he's gonna give 1831 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,680 Speaker 10: it to you, like he's gonna let you have it. 1832 01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:47,960 Speaker 10: So like it's just more of an emphasis this year. 1833 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,040 Speaker 10: I would say that's always been a thing obviously in football. 1834 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:52,599 Speaker 10: You you know, you try to stick to your leverage, 1835 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:56,320 Speaker 10: but you can't get beat to your levers with with Schwartz, 1836 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,680 Speaker 10: he he'll get on you. So it's definitely more of 1837 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,679 Speaker 10: a point of emphasis the defense. 1838 01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,120 Speaker 13: If they will get two games in a row back 1839 01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,840 Speaker 13: to back safeties, everyone on the sideline putting the the 1840 01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,920 Speaker 13: symbol of you see that energy translating and do you 1841 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,040 Speaker 13: see it kind of may continue into the regular season 1842 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:12,559 Speaker 13: from the feedback you guys you're. 1843 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,400 Speaker 6: Able to get from those players, Oh for sure. 1844 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,439 Speaker 10: I mean when you got you know, are two deep 1845 01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,920 Speaker 10: and three deep making plays like that, Like you know, 1846 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,960 Speaker 10: we're super excited for him, and I think it'll definitely 1847 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,759 Speaker 10: translate over you see, the sideline is just so happy 1848 01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 10: for those guys too, So like I feel like with 1849 01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,840 Speaker 10: this team, everyone wants everyone to succeed, and I feel 1850 01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,760 Speaker 10: like around the league that's not the case everywhere, you know, 1851 01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,559 Speaker 10: So I definitely think that energy will definitely, you know, 1852 01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,280 Speaker 10: translate to to the real games. 1853 01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 11: When we talk to Jim, he's mentioned like wanting you 1854 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,439 Speaker 11: guys to leave the league in some intangibles like effort 1855 01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,719 Speaker 11: and passion and things like what you what you think 1856 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,360 Speaker 11: as players? When you know he kind of puts that 1857 01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:54,639 Speaker 11: out there this early and and when he got married 1858 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 11: and stuff like that. 1859 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,799 Speaker 10: He has high expectations for us. You know, he coaches 1860 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,720 Speaker 10: us hard, but that's because he has high expectations. So 1861 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,680 Speaker 10: you know, when we set a standard for us as 1862 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,559 Speaker 10: players and where we're not being to that standard, like 1863 01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 10: we we expect our coaches to you know, push us 1864 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,439 Speaker 10: harder and harder, and you know, with him, it's just 1865 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,800 Speaker 10: like he's gonna coach us hard because he doesn't think 1866 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,839 Speaker 10: we should be a top ten defense or top eight defense. 1867 01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,240 Speaker 10: Like we're trying to be the best defense. So we're gonna, 1868 01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,759 Speaker 10: you know, we're gonna hold ourselves to that, to that standard, 1869 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:29,439 Speaker 10: and he's gonna push us every single days. It's just 1870 01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,120 Speaker 10: like what he said is, you know, when you got 1871 01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,280 Speaker 10: little guys like me going out there hidden, you the 1872 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,280 Speaker 10: d line has to follow suit. Like if I'm coming 1873 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,320 Speaker 10: out there hidden, big guys gotta be able to hit. 1874 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,120 Speaker 10: When you got big guys out there at front running 1875 01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,320 Speaker 10: to the ball, sprinting to the ball, that makes us 1876 01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:45,920 Speaker 10: feel like we got to sprint to the ball. But 1877 01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:49,280 Speaker 10: it's it's more so like celebrating your brother's successes. You know, 1878 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,120 Speaker 10: when someone makes a play, you should see everybody running 1879 01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,400 Speaker 10: over there. To celebrate, and I think when you do that, 1880 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,000 Speaker 10: then you'll you'll definitely see that. 1881 01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:57,479 Speaker 6: You know, you're a family Craig. 1882 01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,519 Speaker 9: As a defender, you know they're lying lights you up 1883 01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:01,120 Speaker 9: in the backfield? 1884 01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,479 Speaker 6: Is a running back? What he's able to do? What 1885 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,679 Speaker 6: does that? What string does that put on a defense? 1886 01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:07,960 Speaker 9: As somebody has to defend it and go against it 1887 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:08,760 Speaker 9: in practice? 1888 01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:10,160 Speaker 6: Man, it's crazy. 1889 01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,800 Speaker 10: I mean I see him in the backfield sometimes, but 1890 01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:14,920 Speaker 10: sometimes I'm supposed to be to the field. Sometimes they 1891 01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,600 Speaker 10: gotta guard him in the backfield. Sometimes he'll take a 1892 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,760 Speaker 10: hand off, sometimes he'll motion out like it's just so 1893 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,439 Speaker 10: much that he can do. And I definitely it's definitely 1894 01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,160 Speaker 10: hard for us. But I mean I don't have to 1895 01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,479 Speaker 10: play against him in the game, so it's gonna be 1896 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,800 Speaker 10: hard for the other team. But yeah, I just love 1897 01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,200 Speaker 10: that he's able to do so much. He can run 1898 01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,760 Speaker 10: the ball at seeing him preseason, obviously, he's one of 1899 01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:37,240 Speaker 10: the you know, most elite route runners, so I'm definitely. 1900 01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:38,760 Speaker 6: Puts pressure on the defense. What makes him such a 1901 01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:39,599 Speaker 6: good route then. 1902 01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,759 Speaker 10: Man, First of all, he's his low center of gravity, 1903 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,400 Speaker 10: like can get out, but then he's also four to 1904 01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:49,040 Speaker 10: three fast, so it's like a guy who's smaller, he's shifty, 1905 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:50,880 Speaker 10: it's hard to get hands on him, but he's super 1906 01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,559 Speaker 10: fas like he just can he really could do everything. 1907 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,160 Speaker 10: So it's definitely hard because when a guy that can 1908 01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 10: run any route in the routree makes him very dangers. 1909 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,400 Speaker 2: All right, good stuff there from Greg new Some so 1910 01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,120 Speaker 2: much more to come. 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