WEBVTT - The Lone Legislator

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<v Speaker 1>This is Latino USA, the radio journal of News and

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<v Speaker 1>of the movement. I'm Maria ino Jossa nose Bayan. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>dear listener, Here's a show from Los Archivos and a

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<v Speaker 1>quick warning. This story has some graphic references to violence

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<v Speaker 1>and murder. Over the last few years, there have been

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<v Speaker 1>several reports of law enforcement agents on the US Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>border going rogue.

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<v Speaker 2>Border Patrol agent Joel Luna has been dealt a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>year prison sentence for organized criminal activity in a case

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<v Speaker 2>involving the decapitation of a.

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<v Speaker 3>Would be snake.

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<v Speaker 4>Had pleaded guilty to possession with intent to distribute marijuana

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<v Speaker 4>for receiving a bribe.

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<v Speaker 1>Importation of Customs and Border Protection agents have traffic drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>taken bribes, and allegedly raped migrants. In one dramatic case,

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<v Speaker 1>an agent turned out to be a serial killer.

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<v Speaker 5>Juan David Ortiz confessted killing four women in a two

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<v Speaker 5>week time span in the Laredo, Texas area near the

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<v Speaker 5>US Mexico border. Ortiz was a border patrol.

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<v Speaker 1>What these individual reports reveal is just how much discretion

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement has while policing the border, and under the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration's recent policy changes, these powers have expanded even more.

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<v Speaker 6>Human rights groups have complained for months that border agents

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<v Speaker 6>are wrongfully turning away people seeking asylum.

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<v Speaker 7>In the US.

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<v Speaker 8>The Trump administration began hearings Monday in makeshift tent courthouses

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<v Speaker 8>in South Texas.

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<v Speaker 9>Customs and Border Protection is advancing a program that allows

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<v Speaker 9>border patrol agents to conte the first interview in the

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<v Speaker 9>asylum process.

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<v Speaker 1>While historically there have been few attempts to increase oversight

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<v Speaker 1>or reform, the government once actually did investigate the way

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<v Speaker 1>policing happened on the border. But that was over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years ago. From Futromedia and PRX. It's Latino USA.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Mariano Posa. Today, we go back one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>one years to a rare moment in time when the

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<v Speaker 1>State of Texas investigated the way we police our border.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the early forms of law enforcement on the

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<v Speaker 1>US Mexico border were the Texas Rangers. The Rangers were

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<v Speaker 1>founded in eighteen twenty three and they still exist today.

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<v Speaker 1>And the image they conjure up is that of a

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<v Speaker 1>lone cowboy on a horse with a star shaped badge.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a lot of cultural importance even today. There

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<v Speaker 1>there's a baseball team named after them and killed on

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<v Speaker 1>the Error.

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<v Speaker 2>Rangers get that first One of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Afternoon and a big movie that came out last year and.

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<v Speaker 2>You put cowboys on bunnang clubs.

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Rangers, but their narrative is complicated. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of history here, but basically, back in the early eighteen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>the southern border of Texas was disputed by the US

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<v Speaker 1>and Mexico. It wasn't until eighteen forty eight, after the

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican American War that the Treaty of Guadelupe Valgo established

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<v Speaker 1>the Rio Grande as the border. That meant Mexicans who

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<v Speaker 1>were living in the region were suddenly in US territory

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<v Speaker 1>and Anglo or white settlers moved in. So there's tension

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<v Speaker 1>over land, which increased with the Mexican Revolution in nineteen ten,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's around then that the Ranger force started growing fast.

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<v Speaker 4>So they are protecting in name, Anglo settlers from savage

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<v Speaker 4>Native nations and from you know, treacherous Mexicans.

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<v Speaker 1>That's historian Monica Munos Martinez. She's the author of the

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<v Speaker 1>Injustice Never Leaves You, Anti Mexican violence in Texas. She's

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<v Speaker 1>an assistant professor of American Studies at Brown University, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's from South Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>And so what you have is the recruitment of men

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<v Speaker 4>who have no training. They can shoot on site, they

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<v Speaker 4>can arrest prisoners.

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<v Speaker 1>Claiming that they were protecting Anglo ranches from raids by

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican bandits. The Rangers terrorize the Mexican and African American community,

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<v Speaker 1>beating and even taking the lives of as many as

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand people. In nineteen eighteen, a group of Rangers

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<v Speaker 1>was part of a ruthless massacre of fifteen men and

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<v Speaker 1>boys in the border town of Borbenide, Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>It is the most well documented example of gross abuse

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<v Speaker 4>and injustice in a haunting story because despite the number

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<v Speaker 4>of witnesses, there were no prosecutions of the Texas Rangers

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<v Speaker 4>that participated.

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<v Speaker 1>After hearing about all of these abuses, one man would

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<v Speaker 1>decide that all of this was just too much. The

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<v Speaker 1>Rangers needed to be held accountable for their violence. That

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<v Speaker 1>man would end up starting an investigation into the Rangers

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<v Speaker 1>that would capture the nation's attention, and it would leave

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<v Speaker 1>behind a narrative about the US Mexico border that would

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<v Speaker 1>linger even today. To tell us the story of how

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<v Speaker 1>it all turned out, producer Liza Jaeger is going to

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<v Speaker 1>take it from here.

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<v Speaker 9>Jose Tomascanalis didn't really want to be at the center

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<v Speaker 9>of an investigation of the Texas Rangers, but from the

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<v Speaker 9>very beginning that's how it was. Well, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 9>think maybe we should just start with, like, who was

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<v Speaker 9>he like as a person?

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<v Speaker 7>This guy is you know, he's in terms of like

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<v Speaker 7>top forty hits, right, this guy was a hit.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Richard Ribb.

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<v Speaker 9>He's studied canalist for years, since he started his PhD

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<v Speaker 9>back in the nineties. He's writing a book about him

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<v Speaker 9>for ut Press, and he knows a lot of details.

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<v Speaker 7>And he's this incredibly well educated, sharp looking. If I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know if you've seen pictures of him, he was

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<v Speaker 7>a good looking young man. Like what very fine cheekbones.

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<v Speaker 9>Canalis was born in eighteen seventy seven on a ranch

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<v Speaker 9>in South Texas, a really huge, fancy ranch.

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<v Speaker 7>He was from the landed elite in South Texas, whose

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<v Speaker 7>family in South Texas dated back into the late eighteenth century.

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<v Speaker 9>Canalis is descended from Spanish immigrants who set up in

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<v Speaker 9>Texas back when it was Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time Canalis is.

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<v Speaker 9>Born, they'd been living in the region for over one

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<v Speaker 9>hundred years, so he's of Mexican descent as well. They're

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<v Speaker 9>one of the most powerful, wealthy ranching families in the region.

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<v Speaker 9>But Canalis from early on isn't going to be a rancher.

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<v Speaker 9>He goes to law school in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 7>And soon he is conducting the legal affairs and real

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<v Speaker 7>estate affairs for the King Ranch.

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<v Speaker 9>Back from law school, Canalis starts working as a lawyer

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<v Speaker 9>for one of the biggest ranches around.

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<v Speaker 7>Which would be you know, the equivalent of Exxon Mobile

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<v Speaker 7>or Amazon or something today.

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<v Speaker 9>It's a huge, important job, and Canalis does it well.

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<v Speaker 2>He becomes pretty well known, powerful.

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<v Speaker 7>And eventually came into the political side of things.

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<v Speaker 9>In nineteen oh five, he becomes the sole official of

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<v Speaker 9>Mexican descent in the Texas legislature.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's important to.

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<v Speaker 9>Know that for Canalis, being a legislator isn't really.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a job.

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<v Speaker 9>He was really religious and law legal system. For him,

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<v Speaker 9>all of that gets wrapped up in his faith.

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<v Speaker 7>Canalis is all about the rule of law. If the

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<v Speaker 7>rule of law breaks down, then we're no more than

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<v Speaker 7>savage beasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 9>So that's his mentality and the other thing to know

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<v Speaker 9>about Canalis he is very familiar with the Texas Rangers.

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<v Speaker 4>He idolizes as the Texas Rangers.

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<v Speaker 9>Historian Monica Munos Martinez. Again, Canalis is familiar with the

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<v Speaker 9>Rangers because.

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<v Speaker 2>He grew up with them.

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<v Speaker 7>He tells stories about the Rangers, like camping on their property,

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<v Speaker 7>about them swapping horses with the Rangers, and that you

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<v Speaker 7>know they were glad to see them when they came around,

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<v Speaker 7>and they you know, they were men of honor.

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<v Speaker 9>But as a state representative, Canalis starts getting reports about

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<v Speaker 9>the Rangers, and they're telling a really different story that

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<v Speaker 9>the Rangers, especially those rangers who are hired fast in

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<v Speaker 9>a group, pretty untrained, are not the Rangers of his youth.

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<v Speaker 9>He hears about men shot in the back just for

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<v Speaker 9>reporting a crime, or burnt alive, beaten to death, all

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<v Speaker 9>of this with no prosecutions, no serious oversight, And to Canalis,

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<v Speaker 9>all of that sounds like the rule of law breaking down.

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<v Speaker 4>So he starts to be unsettled by this culture of impunity.

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<v Speaker 9>And then a relative of Canalis, a rancher, is tortured

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<v Speaker 9>by a group of rangers. It happens when he's on

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<v Speaker 9>his own property. They claim that he's helping bandits. Canalis

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<v Speaker 9>writes about the case to the governor.

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<v Speaker 7>Like, you've got to clean these guys up. These rangers

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<v Speaker 7>are a destructive force and if he could just talk

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<v Speaker 7>to somebody, get him to see the light, then they

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<v Speaker 7>would act responsibly.

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<v Speaker 9>But the governor doesn't do anything about it. And then

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<v Speaker 9>one day Canalis is walking down the street by his

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<v Speaker 9>law office and.

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<v Speaker 7>He hears this shout from behind him and approaching him

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<v Speaker 7>is this massive individual six four two eighty.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's a ranger named Frank.

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<v Speaker 7>Hamer, and he says to Canalis, you better stop what

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<v Speaker 7>you're doing or you're going to get hurt.

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<v Speaker 9>As in, stop complaining about the rangers. And that for

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<v Speaker 9>Canalis that's a turning point.

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<v Speaker 4>Him with all of his privilege. He's not even protected

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<v Speaker 4>from this kind of racial intimidation.

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<v Speaker 9>So in January of nineteen nineteen, Canalis arrives at the

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<v Speaker 9>Statehouse in Texas with a plan. Canalis, lover of law

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<v Speaker 9>and order, has written a bill, a bill recommending some

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<v Speaker 9>simple reforms.

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<v Speaker 7>And it creates quite a fewer.

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<v Speaker 9>He wants rangers better discipline, a bond system, basically meaning

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<v Speaker 9>that if a Ranger killed someone, the victim's family could

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<v Speaker 9>seek compensation.

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<v Speaker 7>So it comes in and the word gets out that

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<v Speaker 7>Canalis wants to take down the Rangers. That's the message.

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<v Speaker 9>Canalis doesn't want to take down the Rangers. He just

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<v Speaker 9>wants to pass a bill for more oversight perform.

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<v Speaker 7>And Canal you know, way, whoa whoa, whoa. Wait, who's

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<v Speaker 7>calling for the dissolving of the Rangers?

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<v Speaker 2>Not me, But the legislature decides.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's let's have a hearing about all this. Let's have

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<v Speaker 7>a hearing on the existence of the future existence of

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<v Speaker 7>the Rangers.

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<v Speaker 2>Are not a public hearing on the legislature floor.

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<v Speaker 5>The committee will now come to order.

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<v Speaker 9>So for this next part of the story, we're going

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<v Speaker 9>to take you inside that investigation, which is over one

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<v Speaker 9>hundred years old. So to bring it alive, we have

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<v Speaker 9>some voice actors who will be reading a bit from

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<v Speaker 9>that transcript.

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<v Speaker 2>It's January thirty.

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<v Speaker 9>First, nineteen nineteen, and Canalis is in the middle of

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<v Speaker 9>this six hundred square foot room at the State Capitol

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<v Speaker 9>in Austin. There are all these rows of desks, a

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<v Speaker 9>podium up front, and a serious audience. Every Texas Ranger

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<v Speaker 9>has been called to Austin for the investigation, and they've

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<v Speaker 9>shown up at the Capitol building filling the room.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there are accounts of the room being so

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<v Speaker 4>packed that people are spilling out to the hallways and

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<v Speaker 4>looking in from the windows.

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<v Speaker 9>And the plan for this whole thing is get a

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<v Speaker 9>bunch of witnesses to talk about exactly how the Rangers

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<v Speaker 9>are acting, and at the end decide are they doing

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<v Speaker 9>a good job or are they breaking the law?

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<v Speaker 2>And Canalis he's pretty much.

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<v Speaker 9>Single handedly in charge of making the case against the Rangers.

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<v Speaker 7>He's in over his head. He's in way over his head.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, this all has come up on the fly, right,

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<v Speaker 7>It's not like he's been planning this for six months.

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<v Speaker 7>He's putting this together on a week's notice.

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<v Speaker 9>But if you read those first few pages, of the transcript.

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<v Speaker 9>Canelis seems to start out pretty confident. He has his

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<v Speaker 9>letter he's written up with a bunch of charges against

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<v Speaker 9>the Rangers, and he hands.

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<v Speaker 2>It out to all these important people in the room.

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<v Speaker 9>On the first day of testimony, this big group of

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<v Speaker 9>men shows up to talk. They're all Anglo businessmen and ranchers,

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<v Speaker 9>and they're there to talk about general conditions on the

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<v Speaker 9>border and their personal histories with the Rangers. So one

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<v Speaker 9>of the first witnesses Canelis questions is a guy who

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<v Speaker 9>runs a car shop in Idelgo County, in a town

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<v Speaker 9>called Mercedes, which is right near the bottom tip of Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>He jumps right in.

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<v Speaker 10>You say you live in Mercedes, Yes, sir, you remember

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<v Speaker 10>the incident of the young man that came to Mercedes

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<v Speaker 10>during the Bandit trouble we had in nineteen fifteen on

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<v Speaker 10>the branch train arrived there about noon and was arrested

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<v Speaker 10>by rangers. He had his hand in a sling and

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<v Speaker 10>was arrested by rangers and was found dead a few

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<v Speaker 10>minutes afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>So here Canalis.

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<v Speaker 9>He's reminding the guy of this case where a wounded

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<v Speaker 9>man had come to town for medical help, and because

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<v Speaker 9>the man was of Mexican heritage and had arrived a

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<v Speaker 9>few days after a bandit raid in town where bandits

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<v Speaker 9>were injured. He was shot and killed by the rangers,

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<v Speaker 9>no questions asked, even though he had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 9>with the raid.

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<v Speaker 10>This wounded man. You know, it was a day or

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<v Speaker 10>two after the incident that this man arrived at Mercedes

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<v Speaker 10>on the noon train with his hand in a sling

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<v Speaker 10>to see the doctor and was arrested and immediately taken

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<v Speaker 10>out and shot, thinking he was one of those persons

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<v Speaker 10>wounded in that.

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<v Speaker 9>And Canalis is kind of like, come on, remember this

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<v Speaker 9>thing that happened, But the car shop owner up on

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<v Speaker 9>the stand says no, multiple times, No.

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<v Speaker 3>I never heard of any such case as that.

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<v Speaker 9>And maybe it's then that Canals starts to realize that

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<v Speaker 9>he's not going to be like collectively putting heads together

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<v Speaker 9>with everyone in the room to get to the bottom

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<v Speaker 9>of what's really going on with the rangers. The investigation

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<v Speaker 9>is going to be a fight one version of reality

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<v Speaker 9>against another, And for many of the witnesses in those

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<v Speaker 9>first few days, their reality of the US Mexico border

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<v Speaker 9>is that it's a violent place. This is an Anglo

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<v Speaker 9>settler from South Texas on the stand being questioned.

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<v Speaker 5>Would you be afraid to continue your residence there if

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<v Speaker 5>they should abolish the Rangers.

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<v Speaker 10>I think it would be dangerous. I think would start

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<v Speaker 10>all over again. The bandits and outlaws across the river

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<v Speaker 10>now will come on this side more.

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<v Speaker 2>We were almost terror stricken down there.

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<v Speaker 10>We look upon the rangers as more or less of

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<v Speaker 10>a godsend.

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<v Speaker 3>To our valley.

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<v Speaker 9>They're describing a border region where the rangers are necessary

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<v Speaker 9>and Mexicans are outlaws.

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<v Speaker 2>One lawyer who.

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<v Speaker 9>Testifies says the border is infested with banditry, and Canalis

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<v Speaker 9>has a different narrative. He has a lot of evidence

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<v Speaker 9>on his side, stacks of testimonies from people who've written

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<v Speaker 9>to him about ranger abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Except there's a catch.

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<v Speaker 4>People know that if you bring charges against the Texas Ranger,

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<v Speaker 4>you're likely going to be killed. People know this.

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<v Speaker 9>People are too afraid to testify in person. The next

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<v Speaker 9>few days of the trial are just this barrage of witnesses.

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<v Speaker 9>Canellis doesn't even get his own witnesses on the stand

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<v Speaker 9>for days, and it's not until the seventh day that

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<v Speaker 9>Canalis actually gets someone on the stand who is of

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<v Speaker 9>Mexican heritage a man named Jesus Vireal.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in law enforcement in South Texas, a constable.

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<v Speaker 9>Viareal says one day he was driving three men to

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<v Speaker 9>his ranch when a ranger pulled them over. The ranger

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<v Speaker 9>interrogated them aggressively, and Villareal tells the story on the stand.

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<v Speaker 11>They got hold of me by the throat, mouth and

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<v Speaker 11>nos and they held me that way about five minutes.

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<v Speaker 5>They told me to speak. I could not speak.

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<v Speaker 2>He says.

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<v Speaker 9>The rangers beat them with pistols until they confess to

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<v Speaker 9>a crime draft divasion, but that it was a false confession.

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<v Speaker 11>I told him there was an untruth. Then the cocked

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<v Speaker 11>pistol was put into my mouth. They told me I

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<v Speaker 11>would tell the truth or they would kill me.

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<v Speaker 9>Via Reel is one of just two Mexican American victims

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<v Speaker 9>of ranger abuse who speak during the investigation, and at

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<v Speaker 9>the end of his testimony, he gets asked to do

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<v Speaker 9>this thing to point out his abuser, the man who

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<v Speaker 9>he's just told that whole story about.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in the room.

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<v Speaker 9>The investigation is by all accounts grueling, but janels he

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<v Speaker 9>feels like he's doing pretty well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that he wholeheartedly believes that if you show

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<v Speaker 4>the ways in which people are being denied due process,

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<v Speaker 4>that that is going to alarm politicians, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>think that he has more faith in American democracy at

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<v Speaker 4>that time that looking at the conditions, looking at the context,

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<v Speaker 4>than I would have had.

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<v Speaker 9>But Monique says that there's also this bigger thing that's happening.

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<v Speaker 9>The Ranger investigation is being reported on every day, not

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<v Speaker 9>just locally but also nationally. It's read by people who've

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<v Speaker 9>never been to Texas, let alone South Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>So people are developing these ideas about what the border is,

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<v Speaker 4>what Mexicans are, and because many people have been actually

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<v Speaker 4>been there, the people who are testifying or setting the scene.

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<v Speaker 9>Of a place full of Mexican outlaws and horse thieves

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<v Speaker 9>and draft dodgers on the border, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Attorneys create this narrative that there is a crisis on

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<v Speaker 4>the border and that Anglos are under threat and that

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<v Speaker 4>they are being murdered in mass by Mexicans, which is

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<v Speaker 4>not accurate.

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<v Speaker 9>It starts to become evident that that's not an accident.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a strategy paint.

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<v Speaker 9>The border as lawless and Mexicans as violent, disloyal and

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<v Speaker 9>patriotic and anyone who disagrees probably shouldn't be trusted.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up on Latino USA, the investigation of the Texas

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<v Speaker 1>Rangers is about to get personal. Stay with us, Yes, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. It's nineteen nineteen and j Di Canales is

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<v Speaker 1>the only member of the Texas State Legislature of Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>heritage and he begins a full scale investigation into the

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<v Speaker 1>lawless behavior of the Texas Rangers, who have been known

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<v Speaker 1>to arrest, torture, or even murder Mexican Americans on the

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<v Speaker 1>border with impunity. And in this part of the hearing

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<v Speaker 1>things start to heat up. Producer Liza Jeger takes us

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<v Speaker 1>to Austin, Texas and the biggest day of the instigation.

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<v Speaker 9>The Rangers hearing is pretty well publicized. People in Austin

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<v Speaker 9>are paying attention, but there's one moment that's advertised in

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<v Speaker 9>the papers for days beforehand. It's the tenth day of testimony,

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<v Speaker 9>when Canalis himself is slated to take the stand.

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<v Speaker 4>People were spilling out of the room trying to watch

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<v Speaker 4>what was happening.

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<v Speaker 9>It's ten am and Canalis settles into his seat at

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<v Speaker 9>the front of the room, poised and smiling, and then

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<v Speaker 9>he starts talking.

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<v Speaker 4>So he actually starts with a long monologue he gives

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<v Speaker 4>he introduces himself to the people in the room, and

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<v Speaker 4>really it's like he's introducing himself to the journalists who

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<v Speaker 4>are going to be writing about this.

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<v Speaker 10>My name is J. T. Canales. I was born in

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<v Speaker 10>the old county of Nuess, state of Texas, very near

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<v Speaker 10>to the present town of Kingsville. I am forty two

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<v Speaker 10>years old, will be next month. I went to the

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<v Speaker 10>public schools of my county, came to Austin and attended

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<v Speaker 10>business College.

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<v Speaker 9>He talks about his degrees, his history of service for

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<v Speaker 9>the state, and Canalis. He's being strategic here, like, come on,

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<v Speaker 9>you guys, we're on the same team.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all from the same world.

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<v Speaker 4>He was lighter skinned, his wife was anglow, and so

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<v Speaker 4>he very much is trying to align himself in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of his family history and his political work with the

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<v Speaker 4>other men, the other white men who are in the

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<v Speaker 4>Texas legislature.

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<v Speaker 2>He starts narrating how he feels like the Rangers for

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<v Speaker 2>almost one hundred years were this great heroic force.

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<v Speaker 10>They were a capable set of men and did not

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<v Speaker 10>need any restriction because their own conscience was a self

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<v Speaker 10>restraint and law.

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<v Speaker 2>But that little by little they've gone rotten.

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<v Speaker 10>In nineteen fifteen, so far as my recollection goes, is

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<v Speaker 10>when the first general outrages perpetrated by Rangers began.

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<v Speaker 9>He explains that bandit raids on the border increased because

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<v Speaker 9>of economic instability after the Mexican revelation, and then he

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<v Speaker 9>spends the next two and a half hours explaining how

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<v Speaker 9>the Rangers have come to violate the people's trust as

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<v Speaker 9>law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready for the cross examination?

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<v Speaker 9>And then it's time for questions. The Rangers lawyer, this

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<v Speaker 9>man named Robert E. Lee Knight, gets up mister Canalis

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<v Speaker 9>and he starts grilling Canalis mostly about his motives.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you not consciously or do you think it is

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<v Speaker 5>possible unconsciously permitted yourself to be worked into a condition

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<v Speaker 5>where you are prone to the outrageous perpetrated and magnify

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<v Speaker 5>the casual mistakes of those struggling with the situation down there?

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<v Speaker 5>About what you have testified?

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, So what's happening here is he's asking this really

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<v Speaker 9>roundabout question where he's basically saying, don't you have an

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<v Speaker 9>agenda here?

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<v Speaker 2>An anti white, pro Mexican agenda?

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<v Speaker 10>No, Sir, I do not at all I say here

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<v Speaker 10>that the men who killed the Austins and others down

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<v Speaker 10>there committed cold blooded murder.

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<v Speaker 9>Canalis is like, no, I'm not biased. These murders are

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<v Speaker 9>just wrong. And basically for hours, this is the tone

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<v Speaker 9>of the back and forth between Knight and Canalis. The

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<v Speaker 9>committee actually has to take a break for dinner, and

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<v Speaker 9>when they come back, there's a surprise testimony. State Representative

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<v Speaker 9>Claude Hudsmith has traveled all the way from DC to testify.

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<v Speaker 3>You have lately been elected a member of Congress.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, from the sixteenth Congressional district.

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<v Speaker 2>Hudsmith is a really big deal.

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<v Speaker 9>He's one of the most respected politicians in the state

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<v Speaker 9>from El Paso, and from the start his testimony is aggressive.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't believe in this, mister Chairman. In extending very

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<v Speaker 6>much clemency to men who come across that river and

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<v Speaker 6>murder our wives and children, you have got to kill

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<v Speaker 6>those Mexicans when you find them, or they will kill you.

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<v Speaker 4>He describes Mexicans as inherently violent. He calls the murderers

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<v Speaker 4>and rapists. You know, it's all transcribed, and he says

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<v Speaker 4>things like you can't give them a chance. You have

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<v Speaker 4>to shoot them when you see them, you know, saying

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<v Speaker 4>if you remove the Texas Rangers, I will calm down

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<v Speaker 4>from DC and lead a mob if I have to.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, I'm going to be candid with you, tell you

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<v Speaker 6>about mob law. If I had it in my power,

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<v Speaker 6>I would lead a mob in a minute against them.

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<v Speaker 3>You are speaking as a citizen.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I'm speaking as a citizen. We are not going

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<v Speaker 6>to stand for those bandits to ravage our country.

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<v Speaker 9>After Hudspith, the Rangers lawyer picks up the cross examination

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<v Speaker 9>of Canalis, and that's when things start to get even uglier,

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<v Speaker 9>more personal.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, mister Canalis, you are by blood a Mexican, are

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<v Speaker 5>you not.

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<v Speaker 10>I am not a Mexican. I am an American citizen.

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<v Speaker 5>Your father or grandfather came from Mexico.

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<v Speaker 10>My father came from Mexico.

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<v Speaker 5>How old were you when he came here.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know. I wasn't born then, And you.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't know from family history or tradition where he came. No, sir,

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<v Speaker 5>and all of your people are not Americans, that is,

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<v Speaker 5>are not citizens of the United States. Mister Canalis, have

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<v Speaker 5>you any blood relatives on the other side? I have

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<v Speaker 5>got some, yes, sir, how many?

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know. I can't tell you because I haven't

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<v Speaker 10>been to Mexico in a long time.

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<v Speaker 9>The lawyer is basically saying to the room, look at

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<v Speaker 9>this guy. Because he has Mexican heritage, we should think

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<v Speaker 9>twice about everything he says and this whole investigation.

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<v Speaker 3>You want this committee to assume that because mister Canalis

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<v Speaker 3>has some relatives in Mexico, that he is disloyal.

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<v Speaker 5>No, sir, I do not. I simply offer it under

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<v Speaker 5>the ordinary rules the proceedings of this character. Hear me

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<v Speaker 5>a moment. It will do no harm. There is a

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<v Speaker 5>saying that blood is thicker than water. Not accusing the

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<v Speaker 5>gentleman of consciously having motives that are not worthy, but

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<v Speaker 5>I say that might unconsciously influence him in this matter.

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<v Speaker 9>And remember, for Canalis this whole time, the heart of

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<v Speaker 9>his problem with the Rangers hasn't actually been that they're

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<v Speaker 9>targeting Mexicans or people with Mexican heritage. He's upset because

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<v Speaker 9>they're breaking the law. So Monica says, for him to

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<v Speaker 9>be personally attacked like this, it's a blow.

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<v Speaker 4>He saw himself as a Texan, as an American and

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<v Speaker 4>didn't identify as being Mexican, and in this investigation, in

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<v Speaker 4>the ways in which he is treated, this is an

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<v Speaker 4>effort by these lawyers to put him in his place

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<v Speaker 4>and to say you are a Mexican. Just try to demean.

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<v Speaker 12>Him anything, for they're with this witness, Gentlemen absolutely through.

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<v Speaker 9>By the time the hearings closed that day, it's been

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<v Speaker 9>twelve hours since Canelis first took the stand. The hearings

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<v Speaker 9>end on February eleventh, eighty three people have testified. A

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<v Speaker 9>few days later, the Hearings committee releases their report.

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<v Speaker 7>The committee says, Okay, we've carefully considered this stuff and

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<v Speaker 7>Rangers are fine. They exonerated them, finest force the world

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<v Speaker 7>has ever seen.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>They go out of their way to commend the Rangers

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<v Speaker 9>captain and his general for doing excellent work. They've been

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<v Speaker 9>under trying conditions, the report says, and done a good

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<v Speaker 9>job in a violent place. They do include a few

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<v Speaker 9>specific incidents of abuse.

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<v Speaker 7>This guy and this guy and this guy were bad apples,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, like this guy went row, that guy went rogue,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And there were some big changes afterwards.

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<v Speaker 9>Many members of the force were dismissed, mostly the ones

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<v Speaker 9>that were hired quickly and without qualifications, and a way

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<v Speaker 9>to hear complaints was put in place. But overall, systematically

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<v Speaker 9>the Rangers procedures mostly don't change and the findings don't

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<v Speaker 9>call for any prosecutions. Later, the Rangers captain writes about

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<v Speaker 9>the report to a friend and tells him quote, the

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<v Speaker 9>committee report was all we could hope for vindication complete.

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<v Speaker 7>But even after the hearings, House Bill five is still around.

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<v Speaker 9>This is Canalis's original bill for Ranger reform, but now

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<v Speaker 9>it's gutted of power. Mostly it just gives the Rangers

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<v Speaker 9>a raise, which infuriates Canalis.

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<v Speaker 7>He fights it to the nail on the House floor,

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<v Speaker 7>almost coming to blows.

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<v Speaker 2>The bill passed.

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<v Speaker 9>When Canalis Is asked about it in the newspaper later,

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<v Speaker 9>he says, I do not recognize my child. Canellis doesn't

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<v Speaker 9>run for office again. After that session. He goes back

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<v Speaker 9>to Brownsville.

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<v Speaker 4>He continues to work as a lawyer, not.

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<v Speaker 2>In politics, via legal advocacy.

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<v Speaker 9>And in nineteen twenty nine he helped to found what

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<v Speaker 9>is one of the main civil rights organizations for Latinos today, LULAC,

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<v Speaker 9>the League of United Latin American Citizens.

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<v Speaker 4>And he then continues to help design this legal strategy

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<v Speaker 4>for seeking more rights for Mexican Americans, and so the

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<v Speaker 4>way that he does that shifts, So you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>idea of who they're fighting for, whose rights they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to defend, shrinks.

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<v Speaker 9>In the early days, members were US citizens only, and

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<v Speaker 9>women were not encouraged to join. And Monica argues that

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<v Speaker 9>in that early advocacy, a particular strategy starts to take shape.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's essentially, you know, the strategy of civil rights

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<v Speaker 4>that says, like, we will through this respectability politics. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we are well educated, we have good jobs, we have

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<v Speaker 4>histories of military service, and we have good patriotic citizens

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<v Speaker 4>that they, as a legal strategy, claim a category of whiteness.

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<v Speaker 9>And she says, canalists latching onto that strategy. It might

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<v Speaker 9>have been related to his experience in nineteen nineteen in

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<v Speaker 9>the Ranger investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>Historians have interpreted his conservative politics in the twenties and

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<v Speaker 4>thirties and forties and thereafter is really being shaped by

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<v Speaker 4>this experience in the trial.

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<v Speaker 9>When it comes to what the Ranger investigation meant for

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<v Speaker 9>law enforcement on the border, this is a moment of

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<v Speaker 9>some reform, some acknowledgment.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people look at this investigation in nineteen nineteen is

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<v Speaker 4>saying that's the endpoint. The crimes were put on display,

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<v Speaker 4>and so the Texas Rangers were reformed, and then after

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<v Speaker 4>that the Texas Rangers were wonderful.

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<v Speaker 9>Right for historians like Monica and for many descendants of

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<v Speaker 9>people who were hurt by the Rangers, it wasn't that

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<v Speaker 9>simple because mostly the investigation affirmed a culture of anti

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<v Speaker 9>Mexican policing, one that didn't change after those weeks in

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<v Speaker 9>the hearings.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, dismissing Texas Rangers is not an act of

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<v Speaker 4>justice when you don't see the prosecutions. It means that

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<v Speaker 4>many of them also rejoin law enforcement and other capacities.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of them become federal officers, They become US Immigration

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<v Speaker 4>Customs Inspection agents, some of them become prison guards. Some

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<v Speaker 4>of them go on to be in the Border Patrol.

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<v Speaker 9>The Border Patrol, by the way, was founded in nineteen

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<v Speaker 9>twenty four, just five years after this investigation, and it

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<v Speaker 9>came out of a section of a congressional bill push

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<v Speaker 9>or by none other than Claude Hudsmith, the guy from

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<v Speaker 9>the investigation who called Mexicans murders and rapists, and Monicae

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<v Speaker 9>says the investigation left another legacy too.

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<v Speaker 4>What you really saw was that there was a media

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<v Speaker 4>and pr machine that was being animated by politicians, by

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<v Speaker 4>Texas rangers to cast the border as a dangerous place

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<v Speaker 4>and to justify state.

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<v Speaker 9>Violence, a place in crisis and full of others. That

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<v Speaker 9>image that the state lawyers and the Anglo ranchers and

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<v Speaker 9>the rangers painted of the US Mexico border it stuck.

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<v Speaker 4>That's something that actively goes on today, the separations of families,

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<v Speaker 4>people being denied their legal rights to claim asylum. There's

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<v Speaker 4>an active effort to portray people, racialize them in a

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<v Speaker 4>way that denies them any sort of public sympathy and

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<v Speaker 4>instead sanctions publicly the kinds of brutality that we're seeing

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<v Speaker 4>on the border today.

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<v Speaker 9>And so this idea of the border as this violent,

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<v Speaker 9>lawless place where law enforcement doesn't have to follow the

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<v Speaker 9>same rules as they do elsewhere, that's not something new.

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<v Speaker 9>It's over one hundred years in the making.

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<v Speaker 1>Special thanks to historians Monica Munjos Martinez and Richard Ribb.

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<v Speaker 1>Rib is currently working on a book titled Shame and

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<v Speaker 1>Disgrace to My Native State, j Ticnalees and the Quest

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<v Speaker 1>to Reform the Texas Rangers. It comes out in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two and special thanks to our voice actors Marlon Bishop,

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