1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: This is Latino USA, the radio journal of News and 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: Courturre Latino USC Latin Latino USA. I'm Maria Inojosa. We 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: bring you stories that are underreported but that mattered to. 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: You, overlooked by the rest of the media. 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: And while the country is struggling to deal with these, 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: we listen to the stories of Black and Latino Studio 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: United Latino Front, a cultural renaissance organizing at the forefront 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: of the movement. I'm Maria ino Jossa nose Bayan. Hello, 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: dear listener, Here's a show from Los Archivos and a 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: quick warning. This story has some graphic references to violence 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: and murder. Over the last few years, there have been 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: several reports of law enforcement agents on the US Mexico 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: border going rogue. 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: Border Patrol agent Joel Luna has been dealt a twenty 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: year prison sentence for organized criminal activity in a case 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: involving the decapitation of a. 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: Would be snake. 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: Had pleaded guilty to possession with intent to distribute marijuana 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: for receiving a bribe. 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Importation of Customs and Border Protection agents have traffic drugs, 21 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: taken bribes, and allegedly raped migrants. In one dramatic case, 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: an agent turned out to be a serial killer. 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 5: Juan David Ortiz confessted killing four women in a two 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 5: week time span in the Laredo, Texas area near the 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 5: US Mexico border. Ortiz was a border patrol. 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: What these individual reports reveal is just how much discretion 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: law enforcement has while policing the border, and under the 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: Trump administration's recent policy changes, these powers have expanded even more. 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 6: Human rights groups have complained for months that border agents 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 6: are wrongfully turning away people seeking asylum. 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 7: In the US. 32 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 8: The Trump administration began hearings Monday in makeshift tent courthouses 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 8: in South Texas. 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 9: Customs and Border Protection is advancing a program that allows 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 9: border patrol agents to conte the first interview in the 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 9: asylum process. 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: While historically there have been few attempts to increase oversight 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: or reform, the government once actually did investigate the way 39 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: policing happened on the border. But that was over one 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: hundred years ago. From Futromedia and PRX. It's Latino USA. 41 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm Mariano Posa. Today, we go back one hundred and 42 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: one years to a rare moment in time when the 43 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: State of Texas investigated the way we police our border. 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: One of the early forms of law enforcement on the 45 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: US Mexico border were the Texas Rangers. The Rangers were 46 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: founded in eighteen twenty three and they still exist today. 47 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: And the image they conjure up is that of a 48 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: lone cowboy on a horse with a star shaped badge. 49 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: They have a lot of cultural importance even today. There 50 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: there's a baseball team named after them and killed on 51 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: the Error. 52 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: Rangers get that first One of the. 53 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: Afternoon and a big movie that came out last year and. 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: You put cowboys on bunnang clubs. 55 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: Texas Rangers, but their narrative is complicated. There's a lot 56 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: of history here, but basically, back in the early eighteen hundreds, 57 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: the southern border of Texas was disputed by the US 58 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: and Mexico. It wasn't until eighteen forty eight, after the 59 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: Mexican American War that the Treaty of Guadelupe Valgo established 60 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: the Rio Grande as the border. That meant Mexicans who 61 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: were living in the region were suddenly in US territory 62 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: and Anglo or white settlers moved in. So there's tension 63 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: over land, which increased with the Mexican Revolution in nineteen ten, 64 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: and it's around then that the Ranger force started growing fast. 65 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: So they are protecting in name, Anglo settlers from savage 66 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 4: Native nations and from you know, treacherous Mexicans. 67 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: That's historian Monica Munos Martinez. She's the author of the 68 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: Injustice Never Leaves You, Anti Mexican violence in Texas. She's 69 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: an assistant professor of American Studies at Brown University, and 70 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: she's from South Texas. 71 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 4: And so what you have is the recruitment of men 72 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: who have no training. They can shoot on site, they 73 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: can arrest prisoners. 74 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Claiming that they were protecting Anglo ranches from raids by 75 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Mexican bandits. The Rangers terrorize the Mexican and African American community, 76 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: beating and even taking the lives of as many as 77 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: five thousand people. In nineteen eighteen, a group of Rangers 78 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: was part of a ruthless massacre of fifteen men and 79 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: boys in the border town of Borbenide, Texas. 80 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 4: It is the most well documented example of gross abuse 81 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: and injustice in a haunting story because despite the number 82 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 4: of witnesses, there were no prosecutions of the Texas Rangers 83 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 4: that participated. 84 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: After hearing about all of these abuses, one man would 85 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: decide that all of this was just too much. The 86 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: Rangers needed to be held accountable for their violence. That 87 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: man would end up starting an investigation into the Rangers 88 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: that would capture the nation's attention, and it would leave 89 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: behind a narrative about the US Mexico border that would 90 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: linger even today. To tell us the story of how 91 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: it all turned out, producer Liza Jaeger is going to 92 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: take it from here. 93 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 9: Jose Tomascanalis didn't really want to be at the center 94 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 9: of an investigation of the Texas Rangers, but from the 95 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 9: very beginning that's how it was. Well, I mean, I 96 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 9: think maybe we should just start with, like, who was 97 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 9: he like as a person? 98 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 7: This guy is you know, he's in terms of like 99 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 7: top forty hits, right, this guy was a hit. 100 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: This is Richard Ribb. 101 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 9: He's studied canalist for years, since he started his PhD 102 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 9: back in the nineties. He's writing a book about him 103 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 9: for ut Press, and he knows a lot of details. 104 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 7: And he's this incredibly well educated, sharp looking. If I 105 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 7: don't know if you've seen pictures of him, he was 106 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 7: a good looking young man. Like what very fine cheekbones. 107 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 9: Canalis was born in eighteen seventy seven on a ranch 108 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,559 Speaker 9: in South Texas, a really huge, fancy ranch. 109 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 7: He was from the landed elite in South Texas, whose 110 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 7: family in South Texas dated back into the late eighteenth century. 111 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 9: Canalis is descended from Spanish immigrants who set up in 112 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 9: Texas back when it was Mexico. 113 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: By the time Canalis is. 114 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 9: Born, they'd been living in the region for over one 115 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 9: hundred years, so he's of Mexican descent as well. They're 116 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 9: one of the most powerful, wealthy ranching families in the region. 117 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 9: But Canalis from early on isn't going to be a rancher. 118 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 9: He goes to law school in Michigan. 119 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 7: And soon he is conducting the legal affairs and real 120 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 7: estate affairs for the King Ranch. 121 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 9: Back from law school, Canalis starts working as a lawyer 122 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 9: for one of the biggest ranches around. 123 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 7: Which would be you know, the equivalent of Exxon Mobile 124 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 7: or Amazon or something today. 125 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 9: It's a huge, important job, and Canalis does it well. 126 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: He becomes pretty well known, powerful. 127 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 7: And eventually came into the political side of things. 128 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 9: In nineteen oh five, he becomes the sole official of 129 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 9: Mexican descent in the Texas legislature. 130 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: And it's important to. 131 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 9: Know that for Canalis, being a legislator isn't really. 132 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: Just a job. 133 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 9: He was really religious and law legal system. For him, 134 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 9: all of that gets wrapped up in his faith. 135 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 7: Canalis is all about the rule of law. If the 136 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 7: rule of law breaks down, then we're no more than 137 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 7: savage beasts. 138 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 139 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 9: So that's his mentality and the other thing to know 140 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 9: about Canalis he is very familiar with the Texas Rangers. 141 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 4: He idolizes as the Texas Rangers. 142 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 9: Historian Monica Munos Martinez. Again, Canalis is familiar with the 143 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 9: Rangers because. 144 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: He grew up with them. 145 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 7: He tells stories about the Rangers, like camping on their property, 146 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 7: about them swapping horses with the Rangers, and that you 147 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 7: know they were glad to see them when they came around, 148 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 7: and they you know, they were men of honor. 149 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 9: But as a state representative, Canalis starts getting reports about 150 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 9: the Rangers, and they're telling a really different story that 151 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 9: the Rangers, especially those rangers who are hired fast in 152 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 9: a group, pretty untrained, are not the Rangers of his youth. 153 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 9: He hears about men shot in the back just for 154 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 9: reporting a crime, or burnt alive, beaten to death, all 155 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 9: of this with no prosecutions, no serious oversight, And to Canalis, 156 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 9: all of that sounds like the rule of law breaking down. 157 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 4: So he starts to be unsettled by this culture of impunity. 158 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 9: And then a relative of Canalis, a rancher, is tortured 159 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 9: by a group of rangers. It happens when he's on 160 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 9: his own property. They claim that he's helping bandits. Canalis 161 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 9: writes about the case to the governor. 162 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 7: Like, you've got to clean these guys up. These rangers 163 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 7: are a destructive force and if he could just talk 164 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 7: to somebody, get him to see the light, then they 165 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 7: would act responsibly. 166 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 9: But the governor doesn't do anything about it. And then 167 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 9: one day Canalis is walking down the street by his 168 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 9: law office and. 169 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 7: He hears this shout from behind him and approaching him 170 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 7: is this massive individual six four two eighty. 171 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a ranger named Frank. 172 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 7: Hamer, and he says to Canalis, you better stop what 173 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 7: you're doing or you're going to get hurt. 174 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 9: As in, stop complaining about the rangers. And that for 175 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 9: Canalis that's a turning point. 176 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 4: Him with all of his privilege. He's not even protected 177 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 4: from this kind of racial intimidation. 178 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 9: So in January of nineteen nineteen, Canalis arrives at the 179 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 9: Statehouse in Texas with a plan. Canalis, lover of law 180 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 9: and order, has written a bill, a bill recommending some 181 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 9: simple reforms. 182 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 7: And it creates quite a fewer. 183 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 9: He wants rangers better discipline, a bond system, basically meaning 184 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 9: that if a Ranger killed someone, the victim's family could 185 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 9: seek compensation. 186 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 7: So it comes in and the word gets out that 187 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 7: Canalis wants to take down the Rangers. That's the message. 188 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 9: Canalis doesn't want to take down the Rangers. He just 189 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 9: wants to pass a bill for more oversight perform. 190 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 7: And Canal you know, way, whoa whoa, whoa. Wait, who's 191 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 7: calling for the dissolving of the Rangers? 192 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: Not me, But the legislature decides. 193 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 7: Let's let's have a hearing about all this. Let's have 194 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 7: a hearing on the existence of the future existence of 195 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 7: the Rangers. 196 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: Are not a public hearing on the legislature floor. 197 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 5: The committee will now come to order. 198 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 9: So for this next part of the story, we're going 199 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 9: to take you inside that investigation, which is over one 200 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 9: hundred years old. So to bring it alive, we have 201 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 9: some voice actors who will be reading a bit from 202 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 9: that transcript. 203 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 2: It's January thirty. 204 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 9: First, nineteen nineteen, and Canalis is in the middle of 205 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 9: this six hundred square foot room at the State Capitol 206 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 9: in Austin. There are all these rows of desks, a 207 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 9: podium up front, and a serious audience. Every Texas Ranger 208 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 9: has been called to Austin for the investigation, and they've 209 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 9: shown up at the Capitol building filling the room. 210 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: You know, there are accounts of the room being so 211 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: packed that people are spilling out to the hallways and 212 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 4: looking in from the windows. 213 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 9: And the plan for this whole thing is get a 214 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 9: bunch of witnesses to talk about exactly how the Rangers 215 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 9: are acting, and at the end decide are they doing 216 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 9: a good job or are they breaking the law? 217 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: And Canalis he's pretty much. 218 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 9: Single handedly in charge of making the case against the Rangers. 219 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 7: He's in over his head. He's in way over his head. 220 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 7: I mean, this all has come up on the fly, right, 221 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 7: It's not like he's been planning this for six months. 222 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 7: He's putting this together on a week's notice. 223 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 9: But if you read those first few pages, of the transcript. 224 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 9: Canelis seems to start out pretty confident. He has his 225 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 9: letter he's written up with a bunch of charges against 226 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 9: the Rangers, and he hands. 227 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: It out to all these important people in the room. 228 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 9: On the first day of testimony, this big group of 229 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 9: men shows up to talk. They're all Anglo businessmen and ranchers, 230 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 9: and they're there to talk about general conditions on the 231 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 9: border and their personal histories with the Rangers. So one 232 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 9: of the first witnesses Canelis questions is a guy who 233 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 9: runs a car shop in Idelgo County, in a town 234 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 9: called Mercedes, which is right near the bottom tip of Texas. 235 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: He jumps right in. 236 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 10: You say you live in Mercedes, Yes, sir, you remember 237 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 10: the incident of the young man that came to Mercedes 238 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 10: during the Bandit trouble we had in nineteen fifteen on 239 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 10: the branch train arrived there about noon and was arrested 240 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 10: by rangers. He had his hand in a sling and 241 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 10: was arrested by rangers and was found dead a few 242 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 10: minutes afterwards. 243 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 2: So here Canalis. 244 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 9: He's reminding the guy of this case where a wounded 245 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 9: man had come to town for medical help, and because 246 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 9: the man was of Mexican heritage and had arrived a 247 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 9: few days after a bandit raid in town where bandits 248 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 9: were injured. He was shot and killed by the rangers, 249 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 9: no questions asked, even though he had nothing to do 250 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 9: with the raid. 251 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 10: This wounded man. You know, it was a day or 252 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 10: two after the incident that this man arrived at Mercedes 253 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 10: on the noon train with his hand in a sling 254 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 10: to see the doctor and was arrested and immediately taken 255 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 10: out and shot, thinking he was one of those persons 256 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 10: wounded in that. 257 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 9: And Canalis is kind of like, come on, remember this 258 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 9: thing that happened, But the car shop owner up on 259 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 9: the stand says no, multiple times, No. 260 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: I never heard of any such case as that. 261 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 9: And maybe it's then that Canals starts to realize that 262 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 9: he's not going to be like collectively putting heads together 263 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 9: with everyone in the room to get to the bottom 264 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 9: of what's really going on with the rangers. The investigation 265 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 9: is going to be a fight one version of reality 266 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 9: against another, And for many of the witnesses in those 267 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 9: first few days, their reality of the US Mexico border 268 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 9: is that it's a violent place. This is an Anglo 269 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 9: settler from South Texas on the stand being questioned. 270 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 5: Would you be afraid to continue your residence there if 271 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 5: they should abolish the Rangers. 272 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 10: I think it would be dangerous. I think would start 273 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 10: all over again. The bandits and outlaws across the river 274 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 10: now will come on this side more. 275 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: We were almost terror stricken down there. 276 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 10: We look upon the rangers as more or less of 277 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 10: a godsend. 278 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: To our valley. 279 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,239 Speaker 9: They're describing a border region where the rangers are necessary 280 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 9: and Mexicans are outlaws. 281 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: One lawyer who. 282 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 9: Testifies says the border is infested with banditry, and Canalis 283 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 9: has a different narrative. He has a lot of evidence 284 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 9: on his side, stacks of testimonies from people who've written 285 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 9: to him about ranger abuse. 286 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: Except there's a catch. 287 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 4: People know that if you bring charges against the Texas Ranger, 288 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: you're likely going to be killed. People know this. 289 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 9: People are too afraid to testify in person. The next 290 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 9: few days of the trial are just this barrage of witnesses. 291 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 9: Canellis doesn't even get his own witnesses on the stand 292 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 9: for days, and it's not until the seventh day that 293 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 9: Canalis actually gets someone on the stand who is of 294 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 9: Mexican heritage a man named Jesus Vireal. 295 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: He's in law enforcement in South Texas, a constable. 296 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 9: Viareal says one day he was driving three men to 297 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 9: his ranch when a ranger pulled them over. The ranger 298 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 9: interrogated them aggressively, and Villareal tells the story on the stand. 299 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 11: They got hold of me by the throat, mouth and 300 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 11: nos and they held me that way about five minutes. 301 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 5: They told me to speak. I could not speak. 302 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: He says. 303 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 9: The rangers beat them with pistols until they confess to 304 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 9: a crime draft divasion, but that it was a false confession. 305 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 11: I told him there was an untruth. Then the cocked 306 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 11: pistol was put into my mouth. They told me I 307 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 11: would tell the truth or they would kill me. 308 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 9: Via Reel is one of just two Mexican American victims 309 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 9: of ranger abuse who speak during the investigation, and at 310 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 9: the end of his testimony, he gets asked to do 311 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 9: this thing to point out his abuser, the man who 312 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 9: he's just told that whole story about. 313 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: He's in the room. 314 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 9: The investigation is by all accounts grueling, but janels he 315 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 9: feels like he's doing pretty well. 316 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: I think that he wholeheartedly believes that if you show 317 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 4: the ways in which people are being denied due process, 318 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 4: that that is going to alarm politicians, and so I 319 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: think that he has more faith in American democracy at 320 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 4: that time that looking at the conditions, looking at the context, 321 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: than I would have had. 322 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 9: But Monique says that there's also this bigger thing that's happening. 323 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 9: The Ranger investigation is being reported on every day, not 324 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 9: just locally but also nationally. It's read by people who've 325 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 9: never been to Texas, let alone South Texas. 326 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 4: So people are developing these ideas about what the border is, 327 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 4: what Mexicans are, and because many people have been actually 328 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 4: been there, the people who are testifying or setting the scene. 329 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 9: Of a place full of Mexican outlaws and horse thieves 330 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 9: and draft dodgers on the border, the. 331 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 4: Attorneys create this narrative that there is a crisis on 332 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 4: the border and that Anglos are under threat and that 333 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 4: they are being murdered in mass by Mexicans, which is 334 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: not accurate. 335 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 9: It starts to become evident that that's not an accident. 336 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: It's a strategy paint. 337 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 9: The border as lawless and Mexicans as violent, disloyal and 338 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 9: patriotic and anyone who disagrees probably shouldn't be trusted. 339 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: Coming up on Latino USA, the investigation of the Texas 340 00:19:35,400 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: Rangers is about to get personal. Stay with us, Yes, Hey, 341 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: we're back. It's nineteen nineteen and j Di Canales is 342 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: the only member of the Texas State Legislature of Mexican 343 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: heritage and he begins a full scale investigation into the 344 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: lawless behavior of the Texas Rangers, who have been known 345 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: to arrest, torture, or even murder Mexican Americans on the 346 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: border with impunity. And in this part of the hearing 347 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: things start to heat up. Producer Liza Jeger takes us 348 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: to Austin, Texas and the biggest day of the instigation. 349 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 9: The Rangers hearing is pretty well publicized. People in Austin 350 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 9: are paying attention, but there's one moment that's advertised in 351 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 9: the papers for days beforehand. It's the tenth day of testimony, 352 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 9: when Canalis himself is slated to take the stand. 353 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 4: People were spilling out of the room trying to watch 354 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 4: what was happening. 355 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 9: It's ten am and Canalis settles into his seat at 356 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 9: the front of the room, poised and smiling, and then 357 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 9: he starts talking. 358 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 4: So he actually starts with a long monologue he gives 359 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: he introduces himself to the people in the room, and 360 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 4: really it's like he's introducing himself to the journalists who 361 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 4: are going to be writing about this. 362 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 10: My name is J. T. Canales. I was born in 363 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 10: the old county of Nuess, state of Texas, very near 364 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 10: to the present town of Kingsville. I am forty two 365 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 10: years old, will be next month. I went to the 366 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 10: public schools of my county, came to Austin and attended 367 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 10: business College. 368 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 9: He talks about his degrees, his history of service for 369 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 9: the state, and Canalis. He's being strategic here, like, come on, 370 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 9: you guys, we're on the same team. 371 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: We're all from the same world. 372 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: He was lighter skinned, his wife was anglow, and so 373 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 4: he very much is trying to align himself in terms 374 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: of his family history and his political work with the 375 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 4: other men, the other white men who are in the 376 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 4: Texas legislature. 377 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: He starts narrating how he feels like the Rangers for 378 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: almost one hundred years were this great heroic force. 379 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 10: They were a capable set of men and did not 380 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 10: need any restriction because their own conscience was a self 381 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 10: restraint and law. 382 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: But that little by little they've gone rotten. 383 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 10: In nineteen fifteen, so far as my recollection goes, is 384 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 10: when the first general outrages perpetrated by Rangers began. 385 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 9: He explains that bandit raids on the border increased because 386 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 9: of economic instability after the Mexican revelation, and then he 387 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 9: spends the next two and a half hours explaining how 388 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 9: the Rangers have come to violate the people's trust as 389 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 9: law enforcement. 390 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: Are you ready for the cross examination? 391 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 9: And then it's time for questions. The Rangers lawyer, this 392 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 9: man named Robert E. Lee Knight, gets up mister Canalis 393 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 9: and he starts grilling Canalis mostly about his motives. 394 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 5: Have you not consciously or do you think it is 395 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 5: possible unconsciously permitted yourself to be worked into a condition 396 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 5: where you are prone to the outrageous perpetrated and magnify 397 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 5: the casual mistakes of those struggling with the situation down there? 398 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 5: About what you have testified? 399 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 9: Okay, So what's happening here is he's asking this really 400 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 9: roundabout question where he's basically saying, don't you have an 401 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 9: agenda here? 402 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 2: An anti white, pro Mexican agenda? 403 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 10: No, Sir, I do not at all I say here 404 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 10: that the men who killed the Austins and others down 405 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 10: there committed cold blooded murder. 406 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 9: Canalis is like, no, I'm not biased. These murders are 407 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 9: just wrong. And basically for hours, this is the tone 408 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 9: of the back and forth between Knight and Canalis. The 409 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 9: committee actually has to take a break for dinner, and 410 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 9: when they come back, there's a surprise testimony. State Representative 411 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 9: Claude Hudsmith has traveled all the way from DC to testify. 412 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: You have lately been elected a member of Congress. 413 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 6: Yes, from the sixteenth Congressional district. 414 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 2: Hudsmith is a really big deal. 415 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 9: He's one of the most respected politicians in the state 416 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 9: from El Paso, and from the start his testimony is aggressive. 417 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 6: I don't believe in this, mister Chairman. In extending very 418 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 6: much clemency to men who come across that river and 419 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 6: murder our wives and children, you have got to kill 420 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 6: those Mexicans when you find them, or they will kill you. 421 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: He describes Mexicans as inherently violent. He calls the murderers 422 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: and rapists. You know, it's all transcribed, and he says 423 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 4: things like you can't give them a chance. You have 424 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 4: to shoot them when you see them, you know, saying 425 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 4: if you remove the Texas Rangers, I will calm down 426 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 4: from DC and lead a mob if I have to. 427 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 6: Now, I'm going to be candid with you, tell you 428 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 6: about mob law. If I had it in my power, 429 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 6: I would lead a mob in a minute against them. 430 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 3: You are speaking as a citizen. 431 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm speaking as a citizen. We are not going 432 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 6: to stand for those bandits to ravage our country. 433 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 9: After Hudspith, the Rangers lawyer picks up the cross examination 434 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 9: of Canalis, and that's when things start to get even uglier, 435 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 9: more personal. 436 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 5: Now, mister Canalis, you are by blood a Mexican, are 437 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 5: you not. 438 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 10: I am not a Mexican. I am an American citizen. 439 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 5: Your father or grandfather came from Mexico. 440 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 10: My father came from Mexico. 441 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 5: How old were you when he came here. 442 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 10: I don't know. I wasn't born then, And you. 443 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 5: Don't know from family history or tradition where he came. No, sir, 444 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 5: and all of your people are not Americans, that is, 445 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 5: are not citizens of the United States. Mister Canalis, have 446 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: you any blood relatives on the other side? I have 447 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 5: got some, yes, sir, how many? 448 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 10: I don't know. I can't tell you because I haven't 449 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 10: been to Mexico in a long time. 450 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 9: The lawyer is basically saying to the room, look at 451 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 9: this guy. Because he has Mexican heritage, we should think 452 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 9: twice about everything he says and this whole investigation. 453 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 3: You want this committee to assume that because mister Canalis 454 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 3: has some relatives in Mexico, that he is disloyal. 455 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 5: No, sir, I do not. I simply offer it under 456 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 5: the ordinary rules the proceedings of this character. Hear me 457 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 5: a moment. It will do no harm. There is a 458 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 5: saying that blood is thicker than water. Not accusing the 459 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 5: gentleman of consciously having motives that are not worthy, but 460 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 5: I say that might unconsciously influence him in this matter. 461 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 9: And remember, for Canalis this whole time, the heart of 462 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 9: his problem with the Rangers hasn't actually been that they're 463 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 9: targeting Mexicans or people with Mexican heritage. He's upset because 464 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 9: they're breaking the law. So Monica says, for him to 465 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 9: be personally attacked like this, it's a blow. 466 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 4: He saw himself as a Texan, as an American and 467 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 4: didn't identify as being Mexican, and in this investigation, in 468 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 4: the ways in which he is treated, this is an 469 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 4: effort by these lawyers to put him in his place 470 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 4: and to say you are a Mexican. Just try to demean. 471 00:27:48,880 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 12: Him anything, for they're with this witness, Gentlemen absolutely through. 472 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 9: By the time the hearings closed that day, it's been 473 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 9: twelve hours since Canelis first took the stand. The hearings 474 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 9: end on February eleventh, eighty three people have testified. A 475 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 9: few days later, the Hearings committee releases their report. 476 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 7: The committee says, Okay, we've carefully considered this stuff and 477 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 7: Rangers are fine. They exonerated them, finest force the world 478 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 7: has ever seen. 479 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 5: Kind of stuff. 480 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 9: They go out of their way to commend the Rangers 481 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 9: captain and his general for doing excellent work. They've been 482 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 9: under trying conditions, the report says, and done a good 483 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 9: job in a violent place. They do include a few 484 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 9: specific incidents of abuse. 485 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 7: This guy and this guy and this guy were bad apples, 486 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 7: you know, like this guy went row, that guy went rogue, 487 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 7: you know, this guy. 488 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: And there were some big changes afterwards. 489 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 9: Many members of the force were dismissed, mostly the ones 490 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 9: that were hired quickly and without qualifications, and a way 491 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 9: to hear complaints was put in place. But overall, systematically 492 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 9: the Rangers procedures mostly don't change and the findings don't 493 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 9: call for any prosecutions. Later, the Rangers captain writes about 494 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 9: the report to a friend and tells him quote, the 495 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 9: committee report was all we could hope for vindication complete. 496 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 7: But even after the hearings, House Bill five is still around. 497 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 9: This is Canalis's original bill for Ranger reform, but now 498 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 9: it's gutted of power. Mostly it just gives the Rangers 499 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 9: a raise, which infuriates Canalis. 500 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 7: He fights it to the nail on the House floor, 501 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 7: almost coming to blows. 502 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: The bill passed. 503 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 9: When Canalis Is asked about it in the newspaper later, 504 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 9: he says, I do not recognize my child. Canellis doesn't 505 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 9: run for office again. After that session. He goes back 506 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 9: to Brownsville. 507 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: He continues to work as a lawyer, not. 508 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: In politics, via legal advocacy. 509 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 9: And in nineteen twenty nine he helped to found what 510 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 9: is one of the main civil rights organizations for Latinos today, LULAC, 511 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,239 Speaker 9: the League of United Latin American Citizens. 512 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 4: And he then continues to help design this legal strategy 513 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 4: for seeking more rights for Mexican Americans, and so the 514 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: way that he does that shifts, So you know, the 515 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 4: idea of who they're fighting for, whose rights they're trying 516 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 4: to defend, shrinks. 517 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 9: In the early days, members were US citizens only, and 518 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 9: women were not encouraged to join. And Monica argues that 519 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 9: in that early advocacy, a particular strategy starts to take shape. 520 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 4: So it's essentially, you know, the strategy of civil rights 521 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 4: that says, like, we will through this respectability politics. You know, 522 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 4: we are well educated, we have good jobs, we have 523 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,719 Speaker 4: histories of military service, and we have good patriotic citizens 524 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 4: that they, as a legal strategy, claim a category of whiteness. 525 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 9: And she says, canalists latching onto that strategy. It might 526 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 9: have been related to his experience in nineteen nineteen in 527 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 9: the Ranger investigation. 528 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 4: Historians have interpreted his conservative politics in the twenties and 529 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 4: thirties and forties and thereafter is really being shaped by 530 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 4: this experience in the trial. 531 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 9: When it comes to what the Ranger investigation meant for 532 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 9: law enforcement on the border, this is a moment of 533 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 9: some reform, some acknowledgment. 534 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: Some people look at this investigation in nineteen nineteen is 535 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 4: saying that's the endpoint. The crimes were put on display, 536 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 4: and so the Texas Rangers were reformed, and then after 537 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 4: that the Texas Rangers were wonderful. 538 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 9: Right for historians like Monica and for many descendants of 539 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 9: people who were hurt by the Rangers, it wasn't that 540 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 9: simple because mostly the investigation affirmed a culture of anti 541 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 9: Mexican policing, one that didn't change after those weeks in 542 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 9: the hearings. 543 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 4: You know, dismissing Texas Rangers is not an act of 544 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 4: justice when you don't see the prosecutions. It means that 545 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 4: many of them also rejoin law enforcement and other capacities. 546 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 4: Some of them become federal officers, They become US Immigration 547 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 4: Customs Inspection agents, some of them become prison guards. Some 548 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 4: of them go on to be in the Border Patrol. 549 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 9: The Border Patrol, by the way, was founded in nineteen 550 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 9: twenty four, just five years after this investigation, and it 551 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 9: came out of a section of a congressional bill push 552 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 9: or by none other than Claude Hudsmith, the guy from 553 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 9: the investigation who called Mexicans murders and rapists, and Monicae 554 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 9: says the investigation left another legacy too. 555 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 4: What you really saw was that there was a media 556 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 4: and pr machine that was being animated by politicians, by 557 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 4: Texas rangers to cast the border as a dangerous place 558 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 4: and to justify state. 559 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 9: Violence, a place in crisis and full of others. That 560 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 9: image that the state lawyers and the Anglo ranchers and 561 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 9: the rangers painted of the US Mexico border it stuck. 562 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 4: That's something that actively goes on today, the separations of families, 563 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 4: people being denied their legal rights to claim asylum. There's 564 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 4: an active effort to portray people, racialize them in a 565 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 4: way that denies them any sort of public sympathy and 566 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 4: instead sanctions publicly the kinds of brutality that we're seeing 567 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 4: on the border today. 568 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 9: And so this idea of the border as this violent, 569 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 9: lawless place where law enforcement doesn't have to follow the 570 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 9: same rules as they do elsewhere, that's not something new. 571 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 9: It's over one hundred years in the making. 572 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: Special thanks to historians Monica Munjos Martinez and Richard Ribb. 573 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: Rib is currently working on a book titled Shame and 574 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: Disgrace to My Native State, j Ticnalees and the Quest 575 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,720 Speaker 1: to Reform the Texas Rangers. 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