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Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to

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Speaker 1: show dot com. I went to the chiropractor this morning.

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Speaker 1: you today? Hey? Ron? How are you good? You're looking good?

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Speaker 1: I always look good. Yeah, well you always say that.

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Speaker 1: like my answer better? Yeah? So yeah, but America doesn't

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Speaker 1: Dan's on the phone from Bristol, Maine. And he has

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Speaker 1: Why aren't any in the car doctor? How are you today?

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Speaker 1: Let's keep on cruising. Let's get over and talk to

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Speaker 1: are you? Hey? Ron? Good about you? Good? What's going on,

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Speaker 1: what kind of car problem do you have? I've got

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Speaker 1: time span, and it has to be dead on every time,

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Speaker 1: all right, So looking at everything, yeah, I guess what.

430
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: There's the camp censor, there's the crank sensor. Beyond that.

431
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: Until you hook up a lab scope, you're never gonna

432
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: see it. It would be like a doctor doing a

433
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: trace on your heart, your heart and blood pressure. You know.

434
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: You they wheel you into the hospital and they hook

435
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: you up into the machine. It's that little right, it's

436
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: it's the tracer. It's the same thing until they hook

437
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: you up to that scope. Because that's what the doctor's got.

438
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: That's a scope, all right. He's just he's putting an

439
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: electrical pattern up if you want to think of it

440
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: like that, and without looking at it like that, it

441
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything. So the only way to test this

442
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: is with the lab scope. Period done. End of conversation.

443
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: I can tell you this that on that particular car,

444
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: a bad crank sensor will replicate a bad CAM sensor.

445
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: So a crank can cause a cam sensor full. So

446
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: what a lot of guys, what a lot of guys

447
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: did back in the day. Let's face it, the car

448
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: is twelve years old or not that many of them

449
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: around anymore. What a lot of guys did in the

450
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: day was replaced both the cam and the crank sensor.

451
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: The guys that didn't understand what lab scopes were or

452
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: had them and never took them out of the box,

453
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: and they had dust on the top. And I'm not

454
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: suggesting you do that. I'm just trying to make the

455
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: point that a crank position sensor issue will also cause

456
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: a cam position sensor issue. It's an easy circuit to diagnose.

457
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: It's a matter of hooking up a lab scope, a

458
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: two channel scope and comparing the crank in the cam

459
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: have the correct relationship and that they you know, you

460
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: have to measure it up against a known good signal,

461
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: which there are libraries of this stuff available to mechanics.

462
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: They have to know where to look. But if they

463
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: have a lab scope, chances are they do and then

464
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: they can tell hey, this is good, this is bad.

465
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: But you know what they're trying to do. They're trying

466
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: to build a cabinet. Using a shoebox as a ruler.

467
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: Doesn't work. So just doesn't work caused them, caused the

468
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: fluxuation our camin and eventual Oh yeah, hey, let me

469
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 1: let me Can you skip? I'm asking you the hard

470
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: questions today. I know, seth, I'm not trying to put

471
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: you on the spot. Can you skip? Can you walk

472
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: and skip? Okay? Do you do? You do? You know?

473
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: How you skip? Your your your brain says skip and

474
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: you kind of miss a step walking down the street. Right, Well,

475
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: you know that's all that's all motor function and that's

476
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: basically what the car is doing. This. The input sensors

477
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: to the PCM are giving a position of cranking camp

478
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: so who it can dictate and control RPM. It's it's

479
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: making it run, just like your brain makes you skip

480
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: or walk or run or do anything else without thinking.

481
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: It's just like an instant. It happens, right, So when

482
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: it loses track of cam signal, when you when you

483
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 1: lose track of walking, your your feet kind of you know,

484
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: you get tangled up and you're not and you trip,

485
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: you fall down. Car does the same thing. It loses

486
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: track of where it's at, It loses the cam, the

487
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: crank signal, it trips and falls down, and the RPM.

488
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: The RPM will fluctuate. It could stall, it could not start,

489
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: It could do a bunch of things. So all right,

490
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: just make sure when you go back to your shop

491
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: if they're going to replace these cam and crank sensors

492
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: Chrysler only. I'll say it again, Chrysler only. Lots of

493
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: problems with the aftermarket stuff, lots of issues. You want

494
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: to use a Chrystler only cam and crank censor in

495
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: that particular vehicle. Um, at least you know you're eliminating

496
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: the problem. Al Right, Well, yeah, I had I had

497
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: changed I had changed one one and I don't even

498
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: remember the brand. I had just picked it up from

499
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: an Advanced Auto Parts cam sensor, right, and I don't

500
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: think it was a Chrysler. So yeah, this is one.

501
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: This is one of those repairs where I call for

502
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: a OI part. All right. The the aftermarket part may work,

503
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how well, and I can't tell

504
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: you for how long. It may be fine, but experience

505
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: has shown me that in this particular case, you're better

506
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: off with an OI part. And just put an end

507
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: to it. So good luck to you, Seth. If you

508
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: need me during the week, Ron at Car Doctor Show

509
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: dot com and if you want to call, you've got

510
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: the number, go right ahead, N zero. Hey, Jeff McDowell,

511
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: A sp NJ is coming up next. Don't go away.

512
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Jeff. Yeah, hey, welcome back.

513
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: We're don't needing the car docker you know, coming up

514
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: next week. Boy, you tell you where does the time fly.

515
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna be down in Socaucus at the Meadowlands Convention

516
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: Center with the good folks at the A s p

517
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: n J and the A s n A s p

518
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: n J Northeast Trade Show. And always a good time.

519
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: Always glad to talk to him. And I'm just surprised

520
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: that year went by and Harry am talking to Jeff

521
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: McDowell again. Jeff, welcome back, sir. I wanted that was

522
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: the fast year. Huh yeah, boy, you know, Jeff, they're

523
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: just flying by. It's uh, you know, we just celebrated

524
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: twenty five years on radio and um we're still kind

525
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: of thinking about it, saying no, no, it can't be.

526
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: It just is like year five. Um, so you know,

527
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: here you guys are with your trade show. We're like

528
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: your thirty nine, isn't it? That's correct? Yeah? Um, you

529
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: know where did thirty nine years of trade shows go? And? Um,

530
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, everyone just seems to be better than the last.

531
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: And you know it's it's I've been fortunate. I've been

532
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: around to about I think, um, I have to think

533
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: back now, I think I've been around to about thirty

534
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: of them, and it's just staggering the the event. Um

535
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: and for what you guys do? So tell us what's um,

536
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: what's hot at the show this year? What are we

537
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: gonna look forward to this year? Well, I mean it's

538
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: just an incredible show. Was sold out so early. We've

539
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: got over sixty square feet of the latest products and

540
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: equipment for people to come out and see. Um a

541
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: hundred fifty different vendors exhibits. We've got over twenty seminars

542
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: and training. We've got Casey Matthew from Casey Custom Paints.

543
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: He's coming out for UH do a demonstration for B

544
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: A s F and meet with some of the young

545
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: vocational students. We've also got Mike Anderson, UH, nationally renowned

546
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: seminar leaders coming out to do a big seminar for

547
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: us and just about anything that anybody wants to find

548
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: out about collision repair UM is available at at the show.

549
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: And it's amazing to me the the spray booths. I'd

550
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: love to go stand in the spray booths. It's kind

551
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: of neat. It's there, they're they're it seems like they're

552
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: bigger than some houses, they're cleaner than some houses, and

553
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: the construction of the technology that's contained within them just

554
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, makes you scratch your head and say, how

555
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: could how could a body shop? I mean, Jeff, you

556
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: have a body shop. Could you imagine not having a

557
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: spray booth? Oh? No, absolutely not. Now do you think that?

558
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: And I suppose we'll have to ask this question next

559
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: week because I think you and are gonna be talking

560
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: next week as well. Obviously, um, you know, a body

561
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: shop without a spray booth going forward, with with the

562
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: technology that the cars are exhibiting, and and and the paints,

563
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: how the paints have changed. You know, there would be

564
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: an interesting topic, right, How has paint changed in the

565
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: last thirty nine years? You know, how are they going

566
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: to manage without a booth going forward? Jeff? Can they Well, no,

567
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: you can't technically licensed Collision Fresh shop in New Jersey

568
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: cannot get their license without passing the fire certificate. Uh

569
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: for your local uh, whatever part of the state you're

570
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: in and right, so you know, it's it's and that's

571
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: some of the things you see at this show. Uh.

572
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: You know, people ask me, so, what's the big deal.

573
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of seminars, it's a bunch of vendors.

574
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: You know what. It's not that it's I go to

575
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: the show every year, and even though it's more, it

576
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: is more collision than mechanical, and we can both admit that.

577
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: I think safely it's it's, it's and that's for now.

578
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: It changes. I think it goes through its cycles. But

579
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, I look in the corners. I would just

580
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: saying this to Joel Goston from n J A. Uh,

581
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, I look in the corners. I I look

582
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: for the little thing. I look for something different, something small,

583
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: and that's usually what I come away with. But it's

584
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: a heck of an education. Um uh you know that.

585
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: I always enjoy seeing. Hey, Jeff, the clock is gonna

586
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: take us. I know we're a little short this year.

587
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: Where can the listeners go for more information and uh,

588
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: give us some show dates and times if you could

589
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah. Sure. The show starts March five to

590
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: ten pm and Saturday to nineteen from ten to five

591
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: pm and Sunday from ten to three pm. And they

592
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: can get any information they want at www dot a

593
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: a sp n J Northeast dot com Perfect Cool Beings,

594
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: you know what. We'll get that up on our Facebook

595
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: page to run Any in the Car Doctor, So if

596
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: they have any issues finding it, that's a s p

597
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: n J Northeast dot com. Jeff, I look forward to

598
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: seeing you and everybody else next week. We'll talk to

599
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: you then. All right, Ron, thank you, You're very welcome.

600
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm run Any in the Car Doctor. We are back

601
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: right after this at Top Kids on the Road six six.

602
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: Welcome back. I want to close out the year. I

603
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: want to talk to you a little bit of better repair.

604
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: Right did this week and I think it signifies where

605
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: this industry is and and it's just a tip of

606
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: the iceberg of where this industry is going. Had a

607
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: note for Toyota Corolla in the shop this week with

608
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: a P zero one thirty three oxygen sensor circuit UH

609
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: slow activity UM insufficient activity was the actual technical term,

610
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: and if you go through the diagnosis, and basically what

611
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: this is. An oxygen center is like the thermostat in

612
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: your house. You said, at the sixty eight degrees, the

613
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: heat comes up, it hits sixty eight, thermostat opens, the

614
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: furnace shuts off, the heat drops down, thermostat closes, it

615
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: brings it back up. It's a it's a back and

616
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: forth process. An oxygen sensor measures oxygen content as you

617
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: may know, may or may not know, depends how long

618
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: I have a listener you are. And basically the computer

619
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: is looking at the oxygen sensor output signal. It produces

620
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: a voltage and it varies with oxygen content high and

621
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: low to determine where one of the main inputs for

622
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: air fuel trimp for freel trim, how much fuel does

623
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: the engine have and how much does it need and

624
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: what's going on. It's it's it's a tuner in a sense.

625
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: It helps adjust the mixture. So it set a fault

626
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: code for slow activity. It wasn't responding fast enough. When

627
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: you go through the diagnosis, one of the things that

628
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: talks about is and you can't test the sensor, and

629
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: we did, and the sensor was marginal, but it wasn't

630
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: anything that I wouldn't have expected at a hundred and

631
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand miles on a twelve year old v coal.

632
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: It's it's it's tired. Of course you're going to replace it.

633
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: But what's interesting was, in this particular case, Toyota had

634
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: issued a technical service bulletin, and what the bulletin specifically

635
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: said was that it may not be a case of

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00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: an oxygen sensor all by itself, that there is a

637
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: software reflesh available for this particular car. So what did

638
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: I do. I got out my Toyota scan Tool dealer

639
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: level tool and basically it's a laptop and fired it up,

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Speaker 1: went out found the calibration, and you know, a tip

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Speaker 1: of the hat to Toyota, they do it really nicely.

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Speaker 1: You you log in using Toyota tis stream and and

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Speaker 1: you're able to go find a calibration. And like a

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Speaker 1: lot of manufacturers now, they do something called a health check.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I always come back to let's

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Speaker 1: look at codes, let's look and see what is in

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Speaker 1: this particular vehicle. And it did a health check and

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Speaker 1: it reported back that there were two calibration updates for

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Speaker 1: this particular car. One of the A B S controller,

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Speaker 1: which had nothing to do with the O two, and

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Speaker 1: one for the O two performed the O two calibration

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Speaker 1: performed the A B S calibration just because I was there.

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Speaker 1: And that's another good thing about doing sortware refleshes, put

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Speaker 1: an oxygen sensor in it, and guess what, the car

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Speaker 1: is fixed. And that's the future of this business in

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Speaker 1: that it's not just changing hard parts, it's changing software

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Speaker 1: as well. And that's the future. Until the next time

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Speaker 1: I'm on anating in the car, Doctor, good mechanics aren't

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Speaker 1: expensive that priceless c