WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Adam Levine Part 1 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:06.680 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. You all ready, 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:10.720 I hope the Juggals Well, here we go. 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:18.440 Suprema Shut Shut Supremo, Roll Call, Suprema Shut Shut Supremo, 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:25.360 Roll Call, Suprema Shut su Supremo, Roll Supriva, Suck Up 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:27.000 Supremo roll. 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.360 Some say I exaggerate, some say hyperbolic. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.520 Yeah, talking to one of my favorite comedian actors from 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:42.120 Workaholics Supremo, Roll Call, Supremo, Suck Suck Supremo. 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.640 Call My name is Fante, Yeah, and I'm feeling free. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.519 My favorite songs about Jane si ep M d Oh. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:58.880 Car Supprima Supremo, roll Call, Suprema Sun Sun Supremo, Roll Call. 0:00:59.000 --> 0:00:59.960 My name is Sugar. 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:00.680 Yeah. 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.360 When I was thirteen, Yeah, my bar mitzvah was filled 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:06.280 Yeah with Adam Levine. 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:19.640 Roll Breva Supremo, roll paid Bill. Yeah. 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:25.080 Perhaps you've heard Yeah why Questlove. Yeah, dressed like big bird. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:36.600 Roll Supremo roll It's like yeah, and isn't me? 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.840 Yeah, Adam's here, Yeah, and it's hard to breathe. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:49.720 Sub So Supremo, Roll Supremo, Supremo, Roll Call. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:53.600 My name is Adam. Yeah, I'd like to go Adam yeah, 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.279 I want it hits Yeah, yeah, I got him. 0:01:57.200 --> 0:02:01.640 Broad roll. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.200 Roll soun sun. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:11.760 Up son. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:19.400 Was good. 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:19.920 That was. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.919 Straight up and then I let it go. Steve, you 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.600 should leave it. I'm sorry, Stevie one. 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:28.000 That was amazing. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.200 Yes, I'm in big Bird move right now? You look 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.200 so yeah. In case you guys missed, I don't know 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.880 where this episode will fall, but after Wayne Brady episode 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.240 of inspiring him rocking is mo hair. I have an 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:46.080 entire mohair section, which I don't like wearing this because 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.639 of course you do this tends they also. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.600 Getting the food you eat. So the most beat boxing 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.920 I do is via when the sweater the other ones 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:55.320 go on. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.079 So you look great, but yeah, fantastic, smell great. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:03.200 I appreciate great smell, great smoking talk about yeah, walked 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.440 down like damn. All right, So this is Quest Love 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.679 Supreme and your host Quest Love Team Supremes in the house. 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.160 We are in person. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:12.840 I hate the fact that even when we're in person, 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.120 it feels like a special episode. Yeah, like I feel 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.600 like we had our live soul train period and now 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:23.919 like we're established, we're just all zoom lip sync and 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.800 you know these are foreign few between, but not today. 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.160 I enjoy these. It's good to see you counting that 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:39.240 money studios, the audience where we live from that money. 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.800 We're really in c that's what. 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:51.440 Stand for, that of money, counting money. It does now, 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:54.000 good to see you guys. 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.320 Everything is fine, great, all right, No one's going out 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:57.960 for cigarettes. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.480 Our guest today, I guess for the last quarter of century, 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.839 our guest today, even before that. You know, our three 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:09.640 times Grammy Award winning guests are one hundred million unit 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.800 selling guests. That's a lot of well. PJ. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:24.960 Morton's here, he hasn't sold as many units, but our 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.880 guests and its incredible band Room five, and then you 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.480 know part of our our soundtrack, uh and plus the 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.200 way they effortlessly blend pop music and soul music and 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.000 funk and all various styles of music. 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:42.719 Definitely, I will say beyond a force to be reckoned 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.240 with just a damn good band. You know, I know 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.120 you made it. I fell into you, guys the same 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:53.360 way that Prince fell into DiAngelo. When you can't get 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.760 in an event like I've heard of the name of 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.120 Room five whatever. It's like when you guys came out 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:02.480 early and you were playing a club in La and 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.360 that was the first time where I realized like, oh, 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.200 this might be a new it might be a new day, 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.920 because like I just walked in, like Chris Rock always 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.520 taught me, like just walk in like you're using the 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:14.840 bet and you always get let in. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.560 Let me say, if if I had known that you 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.600 were trying to get into our show at that point 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.279 and couldn't, I would have lost my fucking mind. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.000 No, but it was just no one could get in. 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.000 It was you know when an artists want to do 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.040 that cut thing where they like get the small and 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.320 we do it too. That jam session we used to 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:30.720 have in LA we were. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.120 Purposely want people not to be able to get in, 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.400 right people not not you, but like most people know no. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.040 But that's the legend of it. It was one time 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.760 we did a jam session with Lenny Kravitz, and Lenny 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:47.720 Kravitz could not get into La. Yes, And there was 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:49.240 one point where it was just like a mere what 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.560 if we lose the horn section, like trade the band 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.560 members and so that Lenny and his people could get 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.240 on stage. And that, yeah, that happened to me and 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.800 then I was like, Okay, that's very LA. These guys 0:05:59.839 --> 0:06:00.880 are big idea, you know. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:03.520 A roots jam session that would have been. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:08.520 Yeah, I know we played together before, but Fallon besides 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.160 Fallen that, yeah, that was the only time, well, the 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.679 first time we really did it was a fallen along 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:14.560 a million years ago. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.360 But I felt like we do you remember that? There's 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.400 a lot about that day that was very faithful for me. 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.040 But do you remember when de Snyder like went at 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:28.599 me for like no reason? Remember why? That's I don't 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:30.960 really well, I know, to be totally fair, like I 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:32.960 don't fully remember. I kind of blacked out, Like I 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.880 don't remember the whole thing because I couldn't believe it. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:36.680 That's how you know you made it? Yeah, Like I was. 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:38.360 I was doing with you guys. We were singing songs, 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:39.840 and I was just like on the sideline. So like 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:41.640 it was weird because and it was really early in 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.360 the show, right when the first start, and he was 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.440 a guest on the show, and I don't know, couch guest. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.160 He was a couch guest. It's not gonna be a 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.880 great story because don't remember exactly what he said, but 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:56.360 he like went at me for no reason, like and 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:57.800 I was just like sitting on the side with you 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.320 guys playing and he was like talk and she had 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.440 somehow and I kind of stood up for myself, and 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.520 I think that was like he was like, oh ship, 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:06.359 and that was like. 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:07.520 You weren't going to take it. 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:19.880 I don't remember, you're pushing your luck, just being. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.920 You should get the fun out of here. What can 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:34.520 I say? I want to rock, dude. I totally forgot 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:35.160 that moment. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.320 Yeah, it was just a part of the whole thing 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.960 a little. But I couldn't believe he really like, I 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:41.800 wish I remember what he said. I wish I had 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.680 it on tape, but I don't. Nothing beloved for him 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:45.120 or whatever. 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:51.440 Is there any truth to the rumor back when guests 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.680 were allowed to sit in with the Roots either, you know, 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.960 I mean, it's just a way to double down on it. 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.320 Instead of being an actual music guest on the show, 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.120 you could just play with the Roots doing the commercial 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:07.360 bumpers and that ended weird enough after it'll fade it 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:14.240 you got episode. Oh No, here's the thing. I love 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.560 the Citzens. I love the Citzens when I'm really like 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.880 at one with the guests. But then there's always like 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:24.200 maybe eight or nine guests that are either kind of 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:28.960 switch baits for publicists. So when you got sat in 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.160 with us to promote his book, you got thought he 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.640 was also going to be a couch guest. Oh so 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:38.480 you know, he did the old thing like Jimmy does 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.360 the monologue. Then he walks to the desk and he 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.560 talks about who's on the show, and then he'll give 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.440 a shout out and sitting in with the roosters, day lady, 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.480 and tell me you got from Wu Tang clan. You 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.920 got like stood up, It's like, oh, thanks for me, 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:55.840 and then he like but the way he just walked 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.920 over and crossed his legs and sat down like started 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.120 doing this, I was like, oh god, Jimmy's just gonna 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.880 go with this. And sure enough, Jimmy, he could have 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:06.400 just stopped and been like no, no, I was just 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.920 introduced to you. But he let you guys sit in 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:13.440 for like two segments as wow, wow, wow, okay. 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.280 But we were so happy because I was like, yo, 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.080 I bet you it's gonna be a never give moment. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:23.400 Sure enough, never again. So it's clips well, yeah, so 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.360 too artists. So artists always asked me, can I sit 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:25.600 in one? 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:25.880 Y'all? 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:27.760 Sorry dog like you got. 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:30.760 But for you when you. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:31.679 Sat in with us. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.080 Is it true that the producer of like he saw 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:35.920 that NBC? 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.640 I guess that's what they told me they saw it. 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.199 And then I think part of it though, also was 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:44.760 the interaction with what Jimmy with Jimmy comedic and it 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:46.200 was great and it was like we had the thing, 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.240 and so I think that was what they saw too, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.760 is that, you know, me obviously standing up for myself 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:51.360 in front. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.760 Of a voice. 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.240 Before the voice, that's what you're saying. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.000 We were all kind of rapping and it was like, okay, cool, 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.360 you can handle both, right, And so I think that's 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.400 probably what art so hey than you guys. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:03.120 Great greatness came from that. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:07.199 I probably have the the rehearsals from that day from 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.440 what from the day you sat in with the roots? 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:10.920 Oh yeah, we have all the records. 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.800 Probably by the way, that was an education. Sitting in 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:14.360 with you guys. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:23.559 Wait, can I say your name first on our show? Yes? Okay, 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.120 sitting in with you guys talk about that. 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:31.480 It was just so fast because they move so fast, right, 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.600 so you're like, you know, we take it to the band. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:39.559 We barely practice, like I know, but you guys, but 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.000 you guys practice while you're doing while you're performing. You 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.439 guys are so good and so in it that like 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:45.480 it's crazy to see. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.360 But that's the thing. I don't say this much because 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.079 I don't know how Jimmy feels about it, because I 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.800 don't want him to feel like this is just like 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:57.680 a dismissive statement. But for me, us doing that show 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:01.040 is us going to the gym. Yeah, we've never practiced 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.160 as a band. We've even that time when we really 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:08.040 first met, when PJ was practicing with the guys, We've 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.360 only had like maybe seven of those in our entire 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:12.000 thirty year existence because. 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:13.840 And they're painful when you do have to do them. 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.720 I don't like to do it, Like it's not fun 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:18.360 to practice. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:23.240 Well, Amir, do rehearse quite a bit for special event concerts. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:24.840 Since two thousand and nine. 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.840 But that's the thing, that's ten years. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:29.640 So you were there. You were there for the first week. 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:33.439 Remember the first weeks of us figuring out like what 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:37.080 this new life is. We didn't hit a note until 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:39.040 an hour in and that's because I went in the 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.679 hallway to call Rich and I was like, Yo, what 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.360 do we do? And He's like, what are you talking about? 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:47.920 What you do? Just start rehearsing and to sit there 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:49.920 with just the seven people you're in a band with 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.960 and rehearse to me was like it was the hardest thing. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:54.600 But it was to see it all in real time 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.880 because also the way that the show moves, which is 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.120 so quickly, and the segments are the segments you. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:11:59.719 Got to feel out. 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.760 You got its crazy. It's a whole different world than. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.000 What I was into. Well, you were easy because some 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:08.280 artists will come in and really not get the concept, 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.440 you know, and always explain to them that it's how 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.199 we end the song that's important. How fast you catch on. 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.640 It's also what it's as everybody knows, it's not what 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.440 you do, it's what you don't do it until you listen, 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.360 and if you don't do that, it's a disaster, I'm 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:21.760 sure for you. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.680 But yeah, we've had a lot of crashes and which 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.559 an artist will be like, no, no, let me do 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.160 that again. I could do it better. I'm like, no, 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.320 you don't get it like it's supposed to how this works. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.880 What was your very first musical memory in life? 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.400 I know the first record I bought other than my 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.520 parents playing music in the car, which is probably always 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.199 the Beatles. This is so funny, but I remember very 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.800 distinctly buying the Eddie Grant Electric Avenue. 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:58.400 That was. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:00.640 But it was like like a tick played the song 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:02.959 like like my parents were like I never need to 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.720 hear the song again, so. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.520 What uh, it's not unusual. It's to John mlaney, That's 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.200 what Electric Avenue was. To use the kid. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.720 It was like it was like ad nauseum all day long. 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.080 Please God, I don't ever want to hear it again. 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:19.160 That song comes on, that song holds. 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:23.199 Up, dude. Jimmy wanted him on the show to do 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.240 Electric Avenue, and the first thing he wanted to do, 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.160 you know, like artists might have that smells like teen 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.319 spirit moment where they don't want to do the song 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:33.040 that they're known for. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.640 Like Bobby mcfairn, like like you know, yeah, like I 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:42.520 want to do like play, So listen to the song 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.040 and realize what it's about and then realize he should play. 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.079 Okay, when he came on the show, you remember this, Steve, 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.520 he wanted to do like a different version of it. 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:52.120 He wanted to mix it with it. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.840 I don't want to dance like the other minor hits that. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:56.760 He wanted to do the B side Time Warp. 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.959 Yes, yo, Wait, so do you know about time Warp? Dude? 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.640 So time Warp is I didn't even notice this, but 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.920 we've all heard time Warp. So Time Warris is kind 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.760 of a song of his that was like a B 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.559 side that wound up being not him going rogue the 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.400 only way I can describe it, you know, like dog 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.960 was a donut on Cat Stevens's record. Wow, that's a metaphor. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.200 That is a deep cut. It's like an instrumental. Right, 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:25.440 it's an instrumental. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:27.920 Okay, So Encyclopedia. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:34.160 In seventy seven, Cat Stevens had a synthesizer endorsement deal 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.200 with the company, of which he promised, like, okay, one 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.840 of these songs, I'll play your instruments on the record. 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.240 But Cat Stevens ain't necessarily a synth based artist. He's 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:43.840 like acoustic. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:45.480 Yeah, you don't say, right. 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:50.640 And so basically the penultimate cut, like the song before 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.400 the album ends, he did a quickly little four minute 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.360 demonstration song of this new drum machine and whatever, and 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.800 it actually fucked around and wound the being like a 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:01.800 bee Boy classic. 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.880 But who's about right now, Steve? 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.200 Thanks Adam let's get to Seddie and then back to 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:10.960 my mind just exploded. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:19.840 This is dog was a donut by uh okay, yeah right, 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.240 which is basically like, so this is cat. That's what 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:23.760 you went. 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.360 Adams, Like, where do we start with this? 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:30.800 That's not cast it is because he contractually had to 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.120 make a song up with all this jarm machines. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.640 Like that's a weird contractualgat in nineteen seventy seven. 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.480 He was the first with the like Lynn drum and 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.400 all that stuff. So he made this ship and of 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:46.160 course the bee Boy community press work immediately picked up 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.680 on it and it became a classic unbeknownst to him. 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.920 But the same with Eddie Grant. Eddie Grant did kind 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.880 of an overheim synthesizer song called time Work, which is. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:58.760 He had a foot in that door already though that 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.560 the cat Stephen sh is crazy. Yeah, I never heard 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.680 anything like that in my life from him, Like what 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:04.880 was that? I want to hear it. 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.600 I didn't know, right, none of us knew what was him. 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:08.560 You've got to get this. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.960 So this this is the B side of Electric Avenue. 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:20.680 So basically at Paradise Garage, this became an anthem and 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.080 if it's played at Paradise Garage. It also means that 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.880 at Crocker is also playing it on his radio show. 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.239 So Eddie Grant wanted. 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.560 To come and do work. 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.840 I just came back. We got full circle. I'm there. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.120 I'm very focused in the morning, and now the show's over. 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:43.480 Thank you very much, Eddie Grant. 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.960 Really anyway, so you loved Electric Gavenue. 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.360 He came up and wanted to do the B side. Yeah, 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:53.360 he's just crazy. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:57.600 Jimmy is always watching the music guests from his dressing 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.960 room or his office because he has a monitor in there, 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.400 and he tries not to come out and freak out 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:04.359 the people that early in the morning. But that's the 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.560 one time in which you know, we're like, okay, so 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.040 we'll do one verse of Electric Avenue and then we'll 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.160 do time Warp and which you're not singing at all. 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:16.720 Jimmy ran in and it was like, guys, no, I 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.879 need you to do Electric Avenue. And then at that 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.840 he wanted to do like a blues harmonica version of it. 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.720 Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's hard when that's like we. 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.760 Had, right, We had to wrestle them out of that 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:33.200 and just do regular ass at your avenue. 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.640 You guys had already like sampled all the weird little samples. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:40.080 In all the little all those little stuff Burbson's frame. 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.359 Its like Ray Parker not doing Ghostbusters some ship like that. 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.920 True, yeah's true, So Huey lewis not doing Ghostbusters. 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:55.399 Since we're all music answers here, I will also maintain that, uh, 0:17:56.400 --> 0:18:01.880 the bar Kays, a group extremely for being derivative, should 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.919 have really they should have been the ones that sued 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.479 Ray Parker. And only because how come no one has 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:13.879 ever brought up, you know, soul Finger by the Barks. 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:15.800 The Adam you didn't know you was coming to class today? 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.040 Of course we don't exactly, of course we don't. 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:27.080 Don't. This is Ghostbusters for real. It is well, no, 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.760 I mean, this is the Barks. I know what you mean, 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.760 but we have but you get yeah, but I'm saying like. 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:35.560 Someone came in and was like something strange. 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.280 But what's really hot about it is that the Barks 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.879 are probably the most derivative copycat groups in soul history, 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.080 and they have one original moment, one original moment that 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:53.159 could have gotten paid anyway. So besides Eddie Grant. 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:54.480 H that was a beautiful tangent. 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:57.439 But but that's what this show love that. I love 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.680 you as a as a music nerd. So that was 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:01.320 that was your song. 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:03.560 Yeah, that was the first like kind of thing I 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.159 fell in love with and wanted to play over and 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.399 over and over again. And then thankfully, thank god, my 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.320 parents had good taste in music, so there was that. 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:11.959 That was a rare thing. I feel like a lot 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:13.720 of times you want to, like want to rebel against 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.520 your parents taste when you're when you're growing up, but 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:18.800 they love great stuff. So they my education started their 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.160 beatles and fleet with mac and all the great rock 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.639 and rollers stuff that you know, kind of shape me 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.119 early on, and I loved it. 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.680 What did your people do with the musicians as well? 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.560 No, I mean I still think that being musical is 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.760 something you have to kind of unlock, like, and that's 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:36.879 a lot. I think that there are people out there. 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:38.840 There are people who think that they're unlocked, that they 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.359 should not be, and people who who I think I 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.879 think more people out there can sing and be creative 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:47.879 and play music that don't think that they can. I 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.280 do believe that because because it has come from somewhere 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.600 and I know that my both my parents and they 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:56.680 would be reluctant to say can sing. They just don't sing, 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.119 and they don't think that they can, you know, like, 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.280 but I'd never not a muscle to use. You know 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.680 what tone death sounds like? Absolutely, and neither one of 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.040 them are. So if there might have been something there, 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:07.840 and you know, if I had gone another way, maybe 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:09.480 I wouldn't have discovered it about myself. 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:11.520 You know, do you remember the first concert you went to? 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.159 Oh yeah I do. 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:20.520 I don't know. This is your base City Rollers moment, 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:23.680 so remember everyone has. 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.119 The beginning of course, and by the way, like as 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:32.199 embarrassing I'm selling. So it was nineteen ninety New Kids on. 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:33.680 The Blank I was talking about. 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:34.440 They say the same thing. 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:39.360 Come on, kids, I know we were supposed to hate 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:41.000 them because we were ten and all the girls liked them, 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:43.480 and shit, right now that we do. 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:45.920 We were supposed to. 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.360 I was ten or eleven, and I was really, really, 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:52.439 really into like the hair band ship because that was that. 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:56.000 Was it, that was that was pop music, was no 0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:57.680 no real hair bands. 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:03.680 Yeah, I went to see Warrant, Yeah song, I knew no, 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:08.760 this was actually I think this might have been like 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.040 either pre Cherry Pie. I think it might have been 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.400 like dirty, rotten, filthy, stinking rich was with the album 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:15.720 that was big, with like some deep shit that like. 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:20.080 I went to go see him the Santa Monica Civic 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.440 Auditorium with my dad because I wouln't go alone. I 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.320 was ten, you know, And I just remember going there 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:28.960 and I will never forget just the scene was so 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:34.840 crazy and the hairspraying like crazy, and then they played. 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.560 I can't say that they were very good, but it 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.600 was so impressive just to hear sound come out of 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:44.280 a PA loud in your face and I had never 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.159 really heard that, so I was just like wow. But 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.120 I remember the worst thing about the show that will 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.239 never forget was the drummer did a drum solo. Yo, 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:56.120 let me tell you what this guy did, okay, because 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:57.840 I can't you can't even make it up because it's 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.280 so eighties you can't even make it up. The dude 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.680 they like put the spotlight on him and he like 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:05.879 stood up and like. 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:10.800 I started rolling in. 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:13.760 And it was. 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:27.720 He didn't do anything else. But yet, never forget it. 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:33.480 Charisma goes a long long way because right now, God, 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.600 I hope this is doing come off front right now, 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:42.600 I'm watching a whole slew a Verdeing White. Oh yeah, 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:49.760 wind fire, And because I witnessed that in real time 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:52.240 as a kid, yo, I thought it was the most 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.720 amazing ship I ever seen. Like he would do like 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:58.160 all this theatrical thing, but he basically was the only 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:03.200 pressing one note, Like he would just press e e 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.399 and like, but he put so much theatrics into it. 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:10.639 He did like and then like it was like the 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:13.240 earthquake effect, and then he was like, all right, I'm 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:18.560 gonna do this again and then fall on the ground 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:25.760 and then he would anyway. And then suddenly suddenly he 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:29.720 even start levitating and floating all in the you know, 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.159 because they had like Dug Henning and David Copperfield like 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:36.160 on staff to do the magic ship. And I realized, like, wow, 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:42.800 Verdie White just did right a four minute one note thing, 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:44.480 and I thought it was the greatest shit on it. 0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:47.159 But for the record that that sounds way doper than 0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:55.080 what I'm talking about. It was too long, you know, 0:23:55.280 --> 0:24:00.399 how long was It seemed like an eternity it was, 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:02.440 And I was so young for me to think it 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:06.840 was lame was crazy, like play the drums, please do something. 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.320 But yes, the showmanship. Of course, the showmanship has a 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.280 part of it, and it was like I'm still talking 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.120 about it thirty million years later, right, had an impact? 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:18.000 Well, see, I didn't put myself in the corner because 0:24:18.240 --> 0:24:22.280 every gospel drummer thinks like I trashed there. Look Mino 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:25.280 hands method that now I feel like I can't even 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:29.600 go there. And then of course Chris Dave has his 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:33.080 his eccentric thing with every drummer following his thing. So 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.360 now it's like, even if I wanted to get back 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:39.960 into go to showman, that's basically why stroves here. Like 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:40.520 I'm feel like. 0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:42.439 Anderson kills it too on of them drums, the way 0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:44.439 he gets up and does his little theatrics too. 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.800 I gotta bring theatrics back, all right, my my ike 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:48.320 turning wig. 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.480 It's a really good question for both of you, is 0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:55.080 like in your situations and anybody entertainment, I guess how 0:24:55.200 --> 0:25:00.600 much to what that mix is between showmanship and sh musicianship. 0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:04.920 Yeah, I overthink it. I mean for me because Kirk 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:09.680 as a guitar player, so theatrical i'd rather and you 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:13.520 know right, but it's it's just like everyone else is 0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:16.760 so theatrical. I don't feel the need to just add 0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:20.560 on top of like people know I'm there and I'm 0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:23.280 fine with that. So basically, but as. 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:27.120 A band, you're blending showmanship and musicianship too as a whole. 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:29.360 I think we're at our best when we're not doing 0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:31.560 shit and we're all just playing together as a unit, 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:38.320 which is not as impressive as says. 0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:38.960 You asked for a minute. But I think what makes 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:43.119 you so special is that you don't have that. You 0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.959 don't know what I don't do. You want to take 0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:47.879 the extreme opposite of the dude I'm talking about this 0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.080 ship like he needed. 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:56.200 That, so you too add him to question that that 0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.800 Steve asked, right, like, how do you figure that balance out? 0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:01.800 What's crazy is like the showmanship thing is always felt 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.480 kind of secondary because and we've existed in a weird 0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:07.480 space where like there's a lot of pop pop stuff 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:09.719 and we're a band, so like, at at the end 0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:12.879 of the day, we're kind of a very normal, you know, 0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:16.359 five piece well now six piece band, and so we've 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.680 never felt like we'd actually fit in anywhere, and so 0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.280 performing has always just been very straightforward for us, Like 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:24.760 the music leads first, a showmanship thing. I'm working on 0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:26.520 my whole life, you know, as far as being a 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:28.720 good front man and stuff started when we got James 0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:30.240 to play in the band because I needed that. Was 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:31.879 when guys were like, hey, you need to like be 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.600 out front and not have to play guitar the whole time. 0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:37.800 And James joined them, you know, twenty twenty something years ago, 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:39.959 so I could focus on doing that. But it's never 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:43.680 been like like a pop star comfortable thing for me 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.080 to like perform perform. It's always just like, okay, I'm 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:49.240 saying I'm up here singing yeah, and then the rest 0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:50.800 of it is just kind of naturally came over. 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.720 You always felt pop star by accident, Like well. 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:55.639 It's not even necessarily by accidents, but okay, Like the 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.359 first time I was on the Voice and we did 0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.960 a performance, this is a perfect example. They tried to 0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:02.440 choreographed me to put me in a spot to go, 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.480 and she was like and she God bless her, she 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:05.960 didn't know what to do with me because I was 0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:07.560 She's like, okay, and then you're gonna walk over here. 0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:12.200 And the director of the show, the choreographer, choreographer, choreographer 0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:22.520 sh choreographed for and uh and she and she was 0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:24.680 like you okay, So halfway through the song, you're gonna 0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:28.040 come and I was like, hey, hey, I don't know. 0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.280 I don't have the capacity to know or remember that. 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:35.280 So like, yeah, hitting marks and going here and dancing 0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.679 and all that is always and thank god has always 0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:39.919 will be foreign to me because I just. 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:41.240 Like, oh, you don't like to be staged. 0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:43.600 Yeah, I'm like allergic to it. 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:44.159 I like that. 0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:47.360 I can't I'm popping up out of the floor. And yeah, 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:49.280 but here's the thing. 0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:53.240 Normally, about forty five minutes an hour into the podcast 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:54.880 we get to this part of the subject. But I'll 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:59.800 just bring it up now, are you a former reluctant leader? 0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.960 Because I also know that to be in your position 0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:09.280 is very awkward because the thing is, I'm assuming that 0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:14.040 this in every group dynamic situation one you're the chosen one, 0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.080 more falls on your back. I think we also run 0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.760 with this narrative that like, if you're too charismatic or 0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:25.800 two in front or out there, that your credibility, like 0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.920 you don't a bunch of me like Wardolphin, the Statler 0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:33.879 people are yeah judging you. 0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:35.680 You know how it is you started playing music in 0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:39.360 a band and then people emerge and as people come 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.760 to the front, and I was always kind of there, 0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.800 and then I think I always had like a I 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.240 would say, if I'm being super honest, like I wanted 0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.400 to be out front. I wanted to be that guy. 0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.800 But then the weird thing happened. This is a whole 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.479 other tangent. But when I started doing like co writes, 0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.280 shit up a little. Hey, what the fuck are you doing? 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.200 Because this is a band, And so that happened. 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:06.200 You guys, don't do the equal one fifth one fifth 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:06.840 one fifth one. 0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:08.640 Well, now when you're right, well, here's the well we did. 0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:09.200 We did. 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.640 And my whole thing from the beginning was like, so 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:13.960 if you write this, you're part of it. You write this, 0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.000 you're part of it. But yes, it was it was 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:19.200 always fair. And then the code write start happening, and 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.360 that was that was less about money. That was more 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:25.480 about just the soul of a band. And I think 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.320 all of our minds potentially being corrupted by the process 0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.400 of having someone else's ideas come in and and and 0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.920 uh take over. So that was a controversial moment for 0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:38.400 us internally, but then it worked. So then it was like, 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:40.840 I mean, the first code write was moves like Jagger. 0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:41.880 So that was wow. 0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.840 That was like, oh shit, like maybe we're gonna do 0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:46.880 this for a while, you know. And so that was 0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:51.080 a negotiation of me being like, hey, it's working. We 0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:55.360 got a couple biggies, like, let's just like trust me 0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.520 and if I see it and if it's not working anymore, 0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:00.400 you know, and if whatever I'm doing for us, let 0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:01.959 me lead, and if it's not working then then well 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.040 and I said this to him straight up, we'll talk 0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.720 about it, we'll regroup, we'll make things a little more democratic, 0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:08.200 but right now, just let me lead and let me 0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.480 take it. And they were super cool with it because 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.480 I was, well, like they were cooler than in the 0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:17.000 time that right, But yes, I communicated very like openly 0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:20.360 and straightforwardly and they appreciated it. And then we had 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.400 like eight in a row, you know, so like they 0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:24.720 couldn't really sing yet. 0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.600 Right, and that I feel like what you just said 0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:32.440 is actually the most important part, because I'll say, for 0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:36.440 what I'm doing now, this is probably the most that 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:40.120 Taraka and I have ever communicated. And it's it's not 0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.800 as awkward as it used to be. You guys will 0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.440 grow up and know you have to like, yeah, but 0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:48.520 it's a very scary thing because like I'm very fragile 0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.840 with rejection. I work my ass off for like four 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:53.960 days on that project and be like, what do you think? 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:58.400 You know, it's cool, and then like suddenly I started 0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.600 giving feelings. So I'm now learning how to and. 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.640 Not ego all of it. We all have them, and 0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.440 especially bands, and so I think, like I was just 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.880 talking about this yesterday too, like we're really lucky because 0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.760 everyone really likes each other and wants to get along, 0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.560 you know, And I think, like, tell me a band 0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:19.720 has been able to stay together. We've been together for 0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.600 twenty years, you know, longer almost, so it's like and 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.080 we actually don't want to kill each other, you know sometimes, 0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.200 but you know, we love each other and the respect 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.160 is has always been there, and it's there. But we're 0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:31.880 lucky like that. 0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.240 Do you guys try to do things off site? There 0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:38.400 was a moment where we would like Threek Love's cooking, so, 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:40.800 you know, dinner at my house, that sort of thing 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.160 where it's not us getting together because. 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.160 We're bad at spending time together when we're apart from work. 0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.200 But I will say work for us when we work 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:54.560 is we're hanging so it feels like we're just chilling. 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.080 Even when we're just backstage for hours or whatever. It 0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.240 is so like I feel like that time is super 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.960 special to us them When we disperse, it's like see it, 0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:03.760 see it. 0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.640 A month probably yeah. 0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.120 But no off premise activity we do. Of course we do. 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.160 There's moon five, go bowling together and stuff. 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:19.800 Like that, bowling big bowler or no like on days 0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:21.280 off from touring, there's no. 0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:24.960 I'm the worst at participating in those things. Okay, I'm 0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.800 gonna say, vocal rest, you need a break. Hey, it's 0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:28.320 a real thing. 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:37.680 I hate nothing more than when vocal rest gets used 0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:39.040 as a reason. 0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:40.120 All the time. 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.719 Never it will be the one to scream at you too. 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:45.120 I thought he's on vocal rest. 0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:50.680 Sometimes you just can't help it. Vocal rest is real. 0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:56.640 Abused as a thing also true, But it is real 0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:57.800 when you rest your voices. 0:32:58.280 --> 0:32:59.960 Are you the towel around? 0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:01.000 No? 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.640 No, no no no. I don't talk from my Ship's 0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:06.880 like reasonable. I'll go to bed at like whatever time 0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:08.880 and like I wake up and I don't talk for 0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:10.360 like three four or five hours. 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:11.880 Wow, So it's that real. 0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.760 But then I can talk, Okay, that must be a 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:16.320 hell of a thing when you was doing the voice 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.080 and stuff, and then you had to do other things 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:19.280 like voice. 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:21.040 Through me so much talk. 0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.280 I don't know. That was a hard hard time because 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:25.719 I had to do all these different things. I want 0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.000 a lot of energy on a multitasking. 0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:34.440 Yeah, Adam, when you first realize that you could sing, 0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:36.880 that you had like a high tenor voice. 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.080 Probably like I was like ten eleven in my voice, 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.160 you know, as you can imagine, I had an extraordinarily 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:46.960 high pre puberty voice that was like angelophone and be like, 0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:51.400 oh hey manuld you put it right right right? I 0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:55.720 was like, that's fun. Mark left the mark on it 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:56.200 paid off? 0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:57.320 Yeah, I did. 0:33:58.520 --> 0:33:58.720 I was. 0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:01.440 I had this amazing I always talk about him because 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.440 he's the greatest. He passed away, which is awful because 0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:05.920 I wish you could have seen all the wonderful things 0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:07.560 that got to happen. But my music teacher when I 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:12.720 was in elementary school was this really kind of boisterous, loud, 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.200 amazing piano player singing. This was always sweating from singing, 0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.640 love the whole thing. And we'd sit in music class 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.200 and I wanted to be a basketball player, like an athlete. 0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.680 I didn't like think music was cool really when I 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:25.840 was nine, you know, and probably like ten eleven to 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:27.279 twelve when I started to get into it. But he 0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.760 told me I could sing, and he pulled me aside. 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:31.640 And it was me and this other kid who wound 0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:34.120 up becoming an opera singer, which is crazy. And he 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.400 would pulls aside every day after he said, you guys 0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.200 are so good at this, Like you don't understand. You 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.279 guys are very very good singer. As you can sing, 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.200 you should do And I was like, ah. 0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:43.680 I what' evering? 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:45.360 How would he hear you? How did he know? 0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.960 Because I mean he would walk around and he would 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:51.080 see and you'd hear. Also, it's easy what no one 0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.799 can sing, like when someone can sing a little bit, 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.520 you can tell. But I was just shy and I 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.880 started playing guitar and still didn't want to sing. And 0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:00.880 the only reason I became a singer is because I 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.920 was literally just the best guy in the band at singing. 0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.400 So I wasn't very good at it when I started, 0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.000 especially live, and then that of course like overtime. 0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:13.160 So with Kara's Flowers, the group that Maroon five eventually 0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.800 morphed into what was the lineup and the whole division 0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:18.320 of labor and that like who was singing? 0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.920 Who I was singing? In Cars Flowers, I was always 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:23.480 the singer. I was always the lead singer. There was 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:25.480 it was you know, guys did background vocals and the 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.920 songs were like like I wrote weird songs about nothing 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.040 because I was so young and to write about. 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:35.239 So when you started fifteen, every group starts off as 0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:37.280 a prototype of what they would like to follow. 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.200 Oh yeah, first it was first it was Pearl Jam 0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.080 and then it morphed into like Weezer, you know what 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:44.920 I mean. Like it was like the time because it 0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:46.879 was your kids, so like you just like you take 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:50.080 on like whatever you're in love with musically, so like, 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.880 and then we got signed to Warner Brothers to reprise 0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.240 as Cars Flowers and we're at that point. The music 0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.520 it was so weird. It was like cool, kind of 0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.360 power popping music, but like the lyrics were so whack 0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:05.759 and crazy. I can't believe that's actually out there. So yeah, 0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:07.719 it was like a product of the times again, like 0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:11.760 the nineties, like you know, kind of poppy, power poppy. 0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.720 I guess what year was this, Yeah, ninety seven. 0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:16.560 Who produced it? 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:22.160 Rob Cavallo, Yeah, so so a whole you have a 0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:22.919 whole other life. 0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:25.680 I want to know this hit me hit me. 0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:27.680 So when I was I was in high school, we 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:29.640 played it a I forgot how we found out, but 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.160 basically we played a high school like a uni high 0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:36.040 school party, university party, and his sister saw us play 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:39.320 Rob's sister. But yeah, anyway, he saw me play and 0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:41.440 then we got wound up getting signed before high school 0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:42.680 was over. So what was that? 0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.759 Like I woulitness boys to men and go through that 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:46.600 in high school. 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.080 So also remember well remember first of all, I lead nowhere, 0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:52.480 but like the initial like the contract, the hemorrhaging money 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:54.160 making a fucking record because it was back in the 0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:56.239 day when like a spend spend. 0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:57.760 Spend actual recording budgets. 0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:00.400 Oh my god, Like you were him great when you 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:01.560 got signed eleventh grade. 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.399 So what were you thinking? Like back in the eleventh grade, 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.600 I'm like, yo, I'm making it, and. 0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:08.840 Who's reading your paperwork? 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.279 We were good like it was, but also look like 0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.200 the record deals of the past, because we got a 0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.400 little and we had a failed record deal that we 0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.799 soon dropped from, you know, so but we we had 0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:22.520 a record deal where it was like if they let 0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:26.279 us go. They had to pay us Like that will 0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:29.760 never happen forever, zero success. 0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.080 Matter of fact, will co learned from Repries? 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.600 Oh yeah yeah, so like that was like a different 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:37.800 time of the recommends, but it was a learning experience 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.720 and it was fun. But yeah, Rob produced a record 0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:42.600 and this was like he just produced Green Day. So 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:44.719 we were like, oh shit, here we go, like bam, 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.520 record went nowhere, sold like eight copies. They dropped us 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:49.279 like a year later. 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.800 Okay, since you got signed in ninety six, can I 0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:54.600 take a whild guess that because I'm like, wait, you 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:56.799 guys were super young when they signed you. Were they 0:37:57.160 --> 0:38:01.560 trying to cash in on the h Hanson kind of? 0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:04.080 Here's what I was gonna say, no, because we were 0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.920 much like we were way more alternative, like like when 0:38:07.960 --> 0:38:09.480 we first started, who's. 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:13.120 The trio from Australia that also was your Chair? Was 0:38:13.200 --> 0:38:14.239 it more to that? 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:18.320 Or we weren't that grungy either, like like it was 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:19.840 just That's what I was gonna say, though, was so 0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:23.080 rare like back then maybe different in pop music, but 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:26.160 being a band that's that young, there was no one 0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.759 literally like remember like Ben Lee had a thing where 0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.280 he was like Holy shit, they signed the second coming sixteen. 0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:33.719 That was it. 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:35.680 It wasn't like there was all these bands being signed, 0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:37.040 so that was it was very rare to get the 0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:39.239 deal in the first place. And I think like even 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.600 back then, like everyone knew kind of like, oh, these 0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:43.520 kids might make it someday, but I'm not sure. This 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.320 is the you know, iteration to day right and do 0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:50.040 it for. It was a wild time being a senior 0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:54.120 in high school. Every day leaving school and driving to 0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:55.600 like Conway. 0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.279 Wow, it was like post death Road Conway too. 0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:04.680 Hey, canon, baby, that some ship you went there? I did. 0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:07.040 I took a to say anything. 0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:10.000 It was post that came. 0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:14.640 That's where all the death songs and stories came from. 0:39:15.080 --> 0:39:16.000 So many stories. 0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.439 Okay, but we mixed there like years later. It was nothing. 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:20.240 It was like two thousand. 0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.440 Wait didn't we Did we go to Conway or cam 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:28.640 Conway is like deep? Like, uh, did we record there once? 0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:30.120 We did an episode there once. 0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:31.239 I have to have been there before. 0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:33.440 I was there with Storms. 0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:37.640 That's where we did too Short with Dennis Quaid. 0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.200 We did. Yeah, But I didn't known that studio, did he? 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:42.360 No? 0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:43.759 No, no, no, I'm just saying I don't think it was. 0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:45.360 I think it was Conway's studios. 0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:47.520 There's no way you've lived your whole life and not 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:48.600 been there at least once. 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:50.960 Maybe not been there once. It's super cooler. 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:52.920 It's like a great studio. Anyway, I was a kid, 0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:54.840 I was going to place. I was like, wow, like 0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:57.120 it was the most and I get there two years 0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:00.680 young too. I was like, let's get food. Let's order 0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:04.600 all of the cheesecake factory, that whole menu. That's a big. 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:06.279 Son. 0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:07.279 It was the. 0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:17.919 Books, like, I do not need some podstickers and a steak, dude, 0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:18.520 can I okay? 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.720 The avocado eggroll brown bread they gave you in the beginning, 0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:24.080 that was. 0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:29.120 The most soulful I've ever seen. 0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:33.920 That was so so much pressure. It's so much pressure. 0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.120 Wait, give me a second, because I have to acknowledge 0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:41.279 like that was the most I felt scene. 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:46.160 The moment I've been on the show, because I got 0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:47.000 to explain. 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:52.320 To you guys that when you realize what the perks 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:56.680 are of this job, the second that you realize that 0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.920 you get access to free, unlimited quality food. 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:04.480 I always tell the story of Wendy Goldstein. 0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:08.680 Having a refrigerator with nothing but orange juice in it, 0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.480 like thing of the way that they opened thefrigerator in 0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:13.360 nothing but a g thing whatever. It's like. 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.279 When she opened that specific all the roots look at 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:20.040 each other like yo. 0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:23.279 And then next thing, you know, she went to the 0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:28.919 bat whatever. We just housing oliver orange juice. But dog, 0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:29.840 you can't believe it. 0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:32.759 I can't believe it, I'm telling you. Or you know 0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:38.520 the three the books Mexican food, every menu, Italian food, 0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:43.799 like three menus per page. As Oh yeah, we. 0:41:43.880 --> 0:41:47.400 Wouldn't even have sessions at We would just know that 0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.480 we had an account at a specific studio like that 0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:51.640 was the original post Mates. 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:53.840 We just go buy battery studios and orders it and 0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:54.839 be like charge. 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:55.759 How about that? 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:57.239 How about the fact that someone's gonna go get it 0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.279 and bring it back before our dad? 0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.080 Y'all don't know what these these folks are talking about 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:05.520 right now, Ya, there's ultimate before Postmates. 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:08.080 It's still I still do not over it. 0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:11.160 I'm still like you get this from me in long distance? 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.440 Oh god, as you finished reading a cheese cakegment and 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.640 long distance, boy, that was awesome. 0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:22.480 So what were your expectations at that time? Super high? 0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:27.040 Just so high, because I mean they were always high. 0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.680 But I think like the only time that I had 0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:32.080 delusional I think. I always say, like, you have to 0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.120 have a delusional amount of self confidence to make it, 0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.600 because you have to really believe like a lot. 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:42.440 Here's the thing, though, in this mind state that I'm 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:46.960 trying to permanently place myself in, like is delusion? Is 0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:48.480 that really a thing? Yes? 0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:54.399 Okay, well yes, yeah, it's all semantics how you want 0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:55.400 to word it, because. 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:57.000 It's very much like it's like, there's this book I 0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:59.839 read like a while but when uh, it's called Good 0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:00.200 to Great. 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:01.000 It's a business book. 0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:03.840 And one of the things that they talk about, like 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:06.400 the CEOs that like took their companies to like record 0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:08.479 growth and shit. One of the things they all found 0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.560 out was they used something called the Stockdale paradox, and 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.720 what it is is based on this general gym Stockdale. 0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:16.240 I don't want to fuck his name up, but anyway, 0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.480 he was a pow president like Vietnam and shit, and 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:22.239 so when he made it out, you know, he would 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:24.120 talk and people would ask him, well, how did you 0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.360 make it like what it was? And the thing he 0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:28.960 said was, you know, the first thing I did was 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.600 I understood that I had to accept the brutal reality 0:43:31.680 --> 0:43:33.600 of what it was like. I had to accept just 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:37.880 the brutal reality, but still at the same time understand 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:39.399 that there was a way that I couldn't make it out. 0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:42.000 And he said, you know, the people who didn't make 0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.279 it were the people who was like, ah, we'll be 0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:49.000 out by November. Then November comes, we'll be out by December. 0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:52.600 Then January comes, we'll be out by whatever. They don't 0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.759 make it, because those are the people. They don't make 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:57.000 it because they die of a broken heart, you know 0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:57.319 what I mean. 0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:58.400 So you have to have. 0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:02.800 You have to enter how especially in the music industry, 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:04.839 you shitn't me like, you have to see like, Okay, 0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:06.400 this shit is fucked up, but you have to have 0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:09.200 that delusional belief in yourself that you'll make it no 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:09.560 matter what. 0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:12.959 So I feel the filtered way that makes total sense, 0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:17.000 and I get it. So basically, you're saying you have 0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:22.400 to stay in the present and pivot towards your future, 0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:26.560 which we rarely do. Like a lot of people are 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.279 either ruled by either tragedy or charmer in their past 0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.560 that makes them how they are now and they don't 0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.160 get over the past. And so I see that now, 0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:38.759 but I also do believe that for everyone that I've 0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:43.640 ever judged. Mind you, these are toxic people now sort 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:47.040 of going through their shit. But anyone that we ever 0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:51.319 ruled as arrogant or fool themselves or that sort of thing, 0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:56.640 I also noticed that they've made it because they had 0:44:56.719 --> 0:45:01.280 to convince themselves that, yeah, that m ward social paths. 0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.680 I mean, yeah, you have to well here's the thing. 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:06.800 To be. 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:08.120 Don't don't be that. 0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:10.960 In a nice way. 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:17.680 God, these are all very tricky conversations, do you think so? 0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:21.640 But delusional self confidence and manifest destiny could be the 0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.600 same thing, right, Like, It's just I think one is 0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.360 a little more cynical and silly, So like, okay, delusional 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.239 self like that's like you say that tongue in cheek, 0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.640 and then manifest that's these a little more more gravitas. 0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:33.600 It's heavier, so you're like, okay, it's more serious. It's 0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.960 the same idea. There's also a time to know when 0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.319 you want to talk about like things like flow state 0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:41.200 and ship where it's like, okay, you also need to 0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:43.920 know what the's going on to you can't just be 0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.879 crazy and I'm gonna make because then there's that side, 0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.160 which is like and by the way, it's people who 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.359 have no talent can have the ship that work out 0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:52.600 for them. 0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:53.720 That's the talent. 0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:54.840 That's exactly. 0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:59.640 Yeah, it's like great imposter syndrome. And like real imposters, 0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:02.439 they don't have that syndrome, you know what I'm saying, 0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:07.360 Like there's no like like damn, he's fonte just like 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.200 scammers and ship like them. Niggas believe every word they saying. 0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:14.160 They have no disbelief in themselves. They will lie like 0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:16.200 a motherfucker. So I yeah, imposter syndrome. 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:19.000 That ain't believing it you have. Imposter syndrome is almost 0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:21.800 like the insecurity that exists when you're not exactly because 0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:23.320 you actually have a conscience. 0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:29.200 But also we're pre programmed as people pleasers to like 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.319 I gotta seem humble out this thing. 0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:32.879 I'm trying to lose that ship. 0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:36.640 It fascinates me though, to see when someone is capable 0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:40.479 of being borderline sociopathics and not giving a ship about 0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:42.839 how they come off and being crazy about it because 0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:45.480 you're like, wow, that is like that would make me 0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:46.440 so uncomfortable. 0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:50.000 I don't know, it's a hard thing to learn. But basically, 0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.279 what I'm trying to get out of you is. So 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:54.640 there was a moment where I felt like, yo, we 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:58.279 got a deal, everyone grew great, it's awesome. And then 0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.319 three weeks into it then I was like, oh shit, 0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.800 this is not going to work. And it took it 0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:09.080 took five years to get me out of the depression 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:10.160 of we're not going to make it. 0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:11.560 But that's a big moment. 0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:13.400 How did but how did you that? 0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:15.880 We haven't gotten there yet in the story, right, because 0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:18.560 if you're successful now standing here today, every single one 0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:19.840 of us has had a failure that they had to 0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:22.640 deal with a big one, at least one big one. 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:27.200 And so yes, you experience that first failure. You're riding high, 0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:30.880 you're like, hey, we got this record deal, money, fucking cheesecake, 0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.920 and then all of a sudden in which we all know, 0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.320 it all goes away and you're like, oh shit, no 0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:40.160 more cheesecake, no more money, no more, no more fame. 0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:41.400 I'm not going to go platinum, you know. 0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:43.680 And how long start over? How long was it until 0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:44.319 we got signed? 0:47:44.360 --> 0:47:47.279 We were like seventeen eighteen, almost eighteen. Our parents had 0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:50.440 to sign the contracting. Awesome, it's just crazy crazy. They 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.960 also had sat in the room so we graduated high 0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:54.799 school and I was like peace, like. 0:47:57.080 --> 0:47:58.279 Over straight to the road. 0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:04.719 And then I would say, by like December of that year, 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:08.120 graduating only the summertime, early summer, and then by December 0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:11.440 it was like, oh ship, this is not happening. All right, 0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:14.160 it's done, and then it kind of started unwrappling. So 0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:18.680 that moment was like whoa, this is uh, this fucked 0:48:18.760 --> 0:48:21.440 up because your dreams are just dashed. Like you know 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:23.480 how that it goes because a minute the minute, it's 0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:25.640 so fascinate you think you're going somewhere and then you're not, 0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:27.680 and then back then at least I don't know if 0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:29.480 it's the same thing now, but like once you're tainted 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:34.200 in the record business, like so if we get anyone 0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:36.120 to like us again, to sign us, it'll be really tough. 0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:39.120 Fortunately we kind of did. But that moment is like, 0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:40.880 really the water you made of moment? 0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.680 How hard was it to change the name because that's 0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:45.000 the moment where you realize that. 0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:47.560 Stupid name so much. I hate all I hate room, 0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:48.800 the name of Room five, I hate the name of 0:48:48.840 --> 0:48:52.080 cars Flowers, I hate band damn band names are stupid. 0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:54.960 All of us, all of us get to be called 0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:55.480 the Roots, bro. 0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:58.160 We were forced. 0:48:58.200 --> 0:48:59.439 We wanted to be square rooms. 0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:02.719 Yeah, well to go with the Roots was smart. 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.799 Well it's a great band name, is what I'm saying. 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:08.320 How did you How did you come up with Carris 0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:09.239 Flowers and my room? 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:09.480 Five? 0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:12.000 Cars Flowers was easy? More than five. I will never 0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:13.919 tell anybody. I told Billy Joel. 0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:14.319 He knows. 0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:14.839 Ask him. 0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:16.319 We gotta get Joel. 0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:17.320 We will at it. 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.840 And he doesn't remember because really had a few and 0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:21.359 didn't care. 0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:23.080 It sounds like every day. 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.160 Yeah he was. I told him because I knew for 0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:31.800 a fact. And it's a very unremarkable story. Cars Flowers 0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:34.239 is so dumb, I mean, like so dumb because we 0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:38.279 were fifteen, So we snuck out of the house. Our boy, 0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:39.960 the drummer could drive. Our rummer could drive, so he, 0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.719 like I had a big old wagoneer and uh, we 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:47.279 went to Norms on on like LOSTI Ina in West 0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:50.879 Hollywood and you know you're out and like your parents 0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:53.279 know you're gone, and you're the norms getting steak and 0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:55.840 eggs for three ninety nine and being a band and 0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.960 being stupid Norms bro. I mean, come on, it's nasty, you. 0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:01.280 Gotta it's great. At one in the morning. 0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:03.920 Oh yeah, it was late night norms. And we're eating. 0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:05.680 We're like, we're gonna be in a band or be 0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:08.120 fucking huge. We gotta get a name. It was that time. 0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:10.719 So there's no better time in your life than that 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.480 those times. And uh and then we were like and 0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:16.120 we all loved this girl named Kara. I don't know why, 0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:18.360 we just loved it. God bless your car, you're amazing. 0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:22.359 So she lived like north of Sunset, like like right 0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:24.680 above the whiskey, like you know, the whiskey was yes, 0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:28.920 like right there, and we like loved her for some reason, 0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:31.920 and so we did our drummer like wanted it. 0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:32.680 He brought her. 0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:34.719 We brought her flowers that night or something like. The 0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:38.359 recollection of it is probably pretty hazy, but anyway we were. 0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:40.360 And so we're back at his house and we're like 0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:41.360 cars flowers. 0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:42.120 It's kind of awesome. 0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.839 And then like we played the whiskey for our first 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:48.120 gig and it said car flowers and like she lived, 0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:49.000 you know. 0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:52.360 So so she was the Rosanna Arcuata you guys, is 0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:53.879 Toto exactly nice? 0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:58.759 Oh sorry, y'all, I hate to do this, but this 0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:02.719 is where part one that's okay. Stay tuned next week 0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:05.680 or check your podcast feed for part two of Questlove 0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:09.560 Supreme with Adam Levine. 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