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Speaker 3: We are in person.
Speaker 1: I hate the fact that even when we're in person,
Speaker 1: it feels like a special episode. Yeah, like I feel
Speaker 1: like we had our live soul train period and now
Speaker 1: like we're established, we're just all zoom lip sync and
Speaker 1: you know these are foreign few between, but not today.
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Speaker 3: Everything is fine, great, all right, No one's going out
Speaker 3: for cigarettes.
Speaker 1: Our guest today, I guess for the last quarter of century,
Speaker 1: our guest today, even before that. You know, our three
Speaker 1: times Grammy Award winning guests are one hundred million unit
Speaker 1: selling guests. That's a lot of well. PJ.
Speaker 10: Morton's here, he hasn't sold as many units, but our
Speaker 10: guests and its incredible band Room five, and then you
Speaker 10: know part of our our soundtrack, uh and plus the
Speaker 10: way they effortlessly blend pop music and soul music and
Speaker 10: funk and all various styles of music.
Speaker 1: Definitely, I will say beyond a force to be reckoned
Speaker 1: with just a damn good band. You know, I know
Speaker 1: you made it. I fell into you, guys the same
Speaker 1: way that Prince fell into DiAngelo. When you can't get
Speaker 1: in an event like I've heard of the name of
Speaker 1: Room five whatever. It's like when you guys came out
Speaker 1: early and you were playing a club in La and
Speaker 1: that was the first time where I realized like, oh,
Speaker 1: this might be a new it might be a new day,
Speaker 1: because like I just walked in, like Chris Rock always
Speaker 1: taught me, like just walk in like you're using the
Speaker 1: bet and you always get let in.
Speaker 9: Let me say, if if I had known that you
Speaker 9: were trying to get into our show at that point
Speaker 9: and couldn't, I would have lost my fucking mind.
Speaker 1: No, but it was just no one could get in.
Speaker 1: It was you know when an artists want to do
Speaker 1: that cut thing where they like get the small and
Speaker 1: we do it too. That jam session we used to
Speaker 1: have in LA we were.
Speaker 9: Purposely want people not to be able to get in,
Speaker 9: right people not not you, but like most people know no.
Speaker 1: But that's the legend of it. It was one time
Speaker 1: we did a jam session with Lenny Kravitz, and Lenny
Speaker 1: Kravitz could not get into La. Yes, And there was
Speaker 1: one point where it was just like a mere what
Speaker 1: if we lose the horn section, like trade the band
Speaker 1: members and so that Lenny and his people could get
Speaker 1: on stage. And that, yeah, that happened to me and
Speaker 1: then I was like, Okay, that's very LA. These guys
Speaker 1: are big idea, you know.
Speaker 8: A roots jam session that would have been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know we played together before, but Fallon besides
Speaker 1: Fallen that, yeah, that was the only time, well, the
Speaker 1: first time we really did it was a fallen along
Speaker 1: a million years ago.
Speaker 9: But I felt like we do you remember that? There's
Speaker 9: a lot about that day that was very faithful for me.
Speaker 9: But do you remember when de Snyder like went at
Speaker 9: me for like no reason? Remember why? That's I don't
Speaker 9: really well, I know, to be totally fair, like I
Speaker 9: don't fully remember. I kind of blacked out, Like I
Speaker 9: don't remember the whole thing because I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: That's how you know you made it? Yeah, Like I was.
Speaker 9: I was doing with you guys. We were singing songs,
Speaker 9: and I was just like on the sideline. So like
Speaker 9: it was weird because and it was really early in
Speaker 9: the show, right when the first start, and he was
Speaker 9: a guest on the show, and I don't know, couch guest.
Speaker 9: He was a couch guest. It's not gonna be a
Speaker 9: great story because don't remember exactly what he said, but
Speaker 9: he like went at me for no reason, like and
Speaker 9: I was just like sitting on the side with you
Speaker 9: guys playing and he was like talk and she had
Speaker 9: somehow and I kind of stood up for myself, and
Speaker 9: I think that was like he was like, oh ship,
Speaker 9: and that was like.
Speaker 7: You weren't going to take it.
Speaker 9: I don't remember, you're pushing your luck, just being.
Speaker 1: You should get the fun out of here. What can
Speaker 1: I say? I want to rock, dude. I totally forgot
Speaker 1: that moment.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was just a part of the whole thing
Speaker 9: a little. But I couldn't believe he really like, I
Speaker 9: wish I remember what he said. I wish I had
Speaker 9: it on tape, but I don't. Nothing beloved for him
Speaker 9: or whatever.
Speaker 1: Is there any truth to the rumor back when guests
Speaker 1: were allowed to sit in with the Roots either, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a way to double down on it.
Speaker 1: Instead of being an actual music guest on the show,
Speaker 1: you could just play with the Roots doing the commercial
Speaker 1: bumpers and that ended weird enough after it'll fade it
Speaker 1: you got episode. Oh No, here's the thing. I love
Speaker 1: the Citzens. I love the Citzens when I'm really like
Speaker 1: at one with the guests. But then there's always like
Speaker 1: maybe eight or nine guests that are either kind of
Speaker 1: switch baits for publicists. So when you got sat in
Speaker 1: with us to promote his book, you got thought he
Speaker 1: was also going to be a couch guest. Oh so
Speaker 1: you know, he did the old thing like Jimmy does
Speaker 1: the monologue. Then he walks to the desk and he
Speaker 1: talks about who's on the show, and then he'll give
Speaker 1: a shout out and sitting in with the roosters, day lady,
Speaker 1: and tell me you got from Wu Tang clan. You
Speaker 1: got like stood up, It's like, oh, thanks for me,
Speaker 1: and then he like but the way he just walked
Speaker 1: over and crossed his legs and sat down like started
Speaker 1: doing this, I was like, oh god, Jimmy's just gonna
Speaker 1: go with this. And sure enough, Jimmy, he could have
Speaker 1: just stopped and been like no, no, I was just
Speaker 1: introduced to you. But he let you guys sit in
Speaker 1: for like two segments as wow, wow, wow, okay.
Speaker 3: But we were so happy because I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: I bet you it's gonna be a never give moment.
Speaker 1: Sure enough, never again. So it's clips well, yeah, so
Speaker 1: too artists. So artists always asked me, can I sit
Speaker 1: in one?
Speaker 9: Y'all?
Speaker 1: Sorry dog like you got.
Speaker 9: But for you when you.
Speaker 1: Sat in with us.
Speaker 3: Is it true that the producer of like he saw
Speaker 3: that NBC?
Speaker 9: I guess that's what they told me they saw it.
Speaker 9: And then I think part of it though, also was
Speaker 9: the interaction with what Jimmy with Jimmy comedic and it
Speaker 9: was great and it was like we had the thing,
Speaker 9: and so I think that was what they saw too,
Speaker 9: is that, you know, me obviously standing up for myself
Speaker 9: in front.
Speaker 1: Of a voice.
Speaker 8: Before the voice, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 9: We were all kind of rapping and it was like, okay, cool,
Speaker 9: you can handle both, right, And so I think that's
Speaker 9: probably what art so hey than you guys.
Speaker 1: Great greatness came from that.
Speaker 6: I probably have the the rehearsals from that day from
Speaker 6: what from the day you sat in with the roots?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have all the records.
Speaker 9: Probably by the way, that was an education. Sitting in
Speaker 9: with you guys.
Speaker 1: Wait, can I say your name first on our show? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 1: sitting in with you guys talk about that.
Speaker 9: It was just so fast because they move so fast, right,
Speaker 9: so you're like, you know, we take it to the band.
Speaker 9: We barely practice, like I know, but you guys, but
Speaker 9: you guys practice while you're doing while you're performing. You
Speaker 9: guys are so good and so in it that like
Speaker 9: it's crazy to see.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. I don't say this much because
Speaker 1: I don't know how Jimmy feels about it, because I
Speaker 1: don't want him to feel like this is just like
Speaker 1: a dismissive statement. But for me, us doing that show
Speaker 1: is us going to the gym. Yeah, we've never practiced
Speaker 1: as a band. We've even that time when we really
Speaker 1: first met, when PJ was practicing with the guys, We've
Speaker 1: only had like maybe seven of those in our entire
Speaker 1: thirty year existence because.
Speaker 9: And they're painful when you do have to do them.
Speaker 9: I don't like to do it, Like it's not fun
Speaker 9: to practice.
Speaker 6: Well, Amir, do rehearse quite a bit for special event concerts.
Speaker 1: Since two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, that's ten years.
Speaker 1: So you were there. You were there for the first week.
Speaker 1: Remember the first weeks of us figuring out like what
Speaker 1: this new life is. We didn't hit a note until
Speaker 1: an hour in and that's because I went in the
Speaker 1: hallway to call Rich and I was like, Yo, what
Speaker 1: do we do? And He's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: What you do? Just start rehearsing and to sit there
Speaker 1: with just the seven people you're in a band with
Speaker 1: and rehearse to me was like it was the hardest thing.
Speaker 9: But it was to see it all in real time
Speaker 9: because also the way that the show moves, which is
Speaker 9: so quickly, and the segments are the segments you.
Speaker 1: Got to feel out.
Speaker 9: You got its crazy. It's a whole different world than.
Speaker 1: What I was into. Well, you were easy because some
Speaker 1: artists will come in and really not get the concept,
Speaker 1: you know, and always explain to them that it's how
Speaker 1: we end the song that's important. How fast you catch on.
Speaker 9: It's also what it's as everybody knows, it's not what
Speaker 9: you do, it's what you don't do it until you listen,
Speaker 9: and if you don't do that, it's a disaster, I'm
Speaker 9: sure for you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we've had a lot of crashes and which
Speaker 1: an artist will be like, no, no, let me do
Speaker 1: that again. I could do it better. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: you don't get it like it's supposed to how this works.
Speaker 1: What was your very first musical memory in life?
Speaker 9: I know the first record I bought other than my
Speaker 9: parents playing music in the car, which is probably always
Speaker 9: the Beatles. This is so funny, but I remember very
Speaker 9: distinctly buying the Eddie Grant Electric Avenue.
Speaker 4: That was.
Speaker 9: But it was like like a tick played the song
Speaker 9: like like my parents were like I never need to
Speaker 9: hear the song again, so.
Speaker 1: What uh, it's not unusual. It's to John mlaney, That's
Speaker 1: what Electric Avenue was. To use the kid.
Speaker 9: It was like it was like ad nauseum all day long.
Speaker 9: Please God, I don't ever want to hear it again.
Speaker 9: That song comes on, that song holds.
Speaker 1: Up, dude. Jimmy wanted him on the show to do
Speaker 1: Electric Avenue, and the first thing he wanted to do,
Speaker 1: you know, like artists might have that smells like teen
Speaker 1: spirit moment where they don't want to do the song
Speaker 1: that they're known for.
Speaker 9: Like Bobby mcfairn, like like you know, yeah, like I
Speaker 9: want to do like play, So listen to the song
Speaker 9: and realize what it's about and then realize he should play.
Speaker 1: Okay, when he came on the show, you remember this, Steve,
Speaker 1: he wanted to do like a different version of it.
Speaker 1: He wanted to mix it with it.
Speaker 3: I don't want to dance like the other minor hits that.
Speaker 6: He wanted to do the B side Time Warp.
Speaker 1: Yes, yo, Wait, so do you know about time Warp? Dude?
Speaker 1: So time Warp is I didn't even notice this, but
Speaker 1: we've all heard time Warp. So Time Warris is kind
Speaker 1: of a song of his that was like a B
Speaker 1: side that wound up being not him going rogue the
Speaker 1: only way I can describe it, you know, like dog
Speaker 1: was a donut on Cat Stevens's record. Wow, that's a metaphor.
Speaker 1: That is a deep cut. It's like an instrumental. Right,
Speaker 1: it's an instrumental.
Speaker 9: Okay, So Encyclopedia.
Speaker 1: In seventy seven, Cat Stevens had a synthesizer endorsement deal
Speaker 1: with the company, of which he promised, like, okay, one
Speaker 1: of these songs, I'll play your instruments on the record.
Speaker 1: But Cat Stevens ain't necessarily a synth based artist. He's
Speaker 1: like acoustic.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't say, right.
Speaker 1: And so basically the penultimate cut, like the song before
Speaker 1: the album ends, he did a quickly little four minute
Speaker 1: demonstration song of this new drum machine and whatever, and
Speaker 1: it actually fucked around and wound the being like a
Speaker 1: bee Boy classic.
Speaker 9: But who's about right now, Steve?
Speaker 6: Thanks Adam let's get to Seddie and then back to
Speaker 6: my mind just exploded.
Speaker 1: This is dog was a donut by uh okay, yeah right,
Speaker 1: which is basically like, so this is cat. That's what
Speaker 1: you went.
Speaker 8: Adams, Like, where do we start with this?
Speaker 1: That's not cast it is because he contractually had to
Speaker 1: make a song up with all this jarm machines.
Speaker 9: Like that's a weird contractualgat in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1: He was the first with the like Lynn drum and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So he made this ship and of
Speaker 1: course the bee Boy community press work immediately picked up
Speaker 1: on it and it became a classic unbeknownst to him.
Speaker 1: But the same with Eddie Grant. Eddie Grant did kind
Speaker 1: of an overheim synthesizer song called time Work, which is.
Speaker 9: He had a foot in that door already though that
Speaker 9: the cat Stephen sh is crazy. Yeah, I never heard
Speaker 9: anything like that in my life from him, Like what
Speaker 9: was that? I want to hear it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know, right, none of us knew what was him.
Speaker 9: You've got to get this.
Speaker 1: So this this is the B side of Electric Avenue.
Speaker 1: So basically at Paradise Garage, this became an anthem and
Speaker 1: if it's played at Paradise Garage. It also means that
Speaker 1: at Crocker is also playing it on his radio show.
Speaker 1: So Eddie Grant wanted.
Speaker 7: To come and do work.
Speaker 1: I just came back. We got full circle. I'm there.
Speaker 3: I'm very focused in the morning, and now the show's over.
Speaker 9: Thank you very much, Eddie Grant.
Speaker 3: Really anyway, so you loved Electric Gavenue.
Speaker 9: He came up and wanted to do the B side. Yeah,
Speaker 9: he's just crazy.
Speaker 1: Jimmy is always watching the music guests from his dressing
Speaker 1: room or his office because he has a monitor in there,
Speaker 1: and he tries not to come out and freak out
Speaker 1: the people that early in the morning. But that's the
Speaker 1: one time in which you know, we're like, okay, so
Speaker 1: we'll do one verse of Electric Avenue and then we'll
Speaker 1: do time Warp and which you're not singing at all.
Speaker 1: Jimmy ran in and it was like, guys, no, I
Speaker 1: need you to do Electric Avenue. And then at that
Speaker 1: he wanted to do like a blues harmonica version of it.
Speaker 9: Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's hard when that's like we.
Speaker 1: Had, right, We had to wrestle them out of that
Speaker 1: and just do regular ass at your avenue.
Speaker 6: You guys had already like sampled all the weird little samples.
Speaker 3: In all the little all those little stuff Burbson's frame.
Speaker 7: Its like Ray Parker not doing Ghostbusters some ship like that.
Speaker 6: True, yeah's true, So Huey lewis not doing Ghostbusters.
Speaker 1: Since we're all music answers here, I will also maintain that, uh,
Speaker 1: the bar Kays, a group extremely for being derivative, should
Speaker 1: have really they should have been the ones that sued
Speaker 1: Ray Parker. And only because how come no one has
Speaker 1: ever brought up, you know, soul Finger by the Barks.
Speaker 8: The Adam you didn't know you was coming to class today?
Speaker 8: Of course we don't exactly, of course we don't.
Speaker 1: Don't. This is Ghostbusters for real. It is well, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the Barks. I know what you mean,
Speaker 1: but we have but you get yeah, but I'm saying like.
Speaker 9: Someone came in and was like something strange.
Speaker 1: But what's really hot about it is that the Barks
Speaker 1: are probably the most derivative copycat groups in soul history,
Speaker 1: and they have one original moment, one original moment that
Speaker 1: could have gotten paid anyway. So besides Eddie Grant.
Speaker 9: H that was a beautiful tangent.
Speaker 1: But but that's what this show love that. I love
Speaker 1: you as a as a music nerd. So that was
Speaker 1: that was your song.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was the first like kind of thing I
Speaker 9: fell in love with and wanted to play over and
Speaker 9: over and over again. And then thankfully, thank god, my
Speaker 9: parents had good taste in music, so there was that.
Speaker 9: That was a rare thing. I feel like a lot
Speaker 9: of times you want to, like want to rebel against
Speaker 9: your parents taste when you're when you're growing up, but
Speaker 9: they love great stuff. So they my education started their
Speaker 9: beatles and fleet with mac and all the great rock
Speaker 9: and rollers stuff that you know, kind of shape me
Speaker 9: early on, and I loved it.
Speaker 1: What did your people do with the musicians as well?
Speaker 9: No, I mean I still think that being musical is
Speaker 9: something you have to kind of unlock, like, and that's
Speaker 9: a lot. I think that there are people out there.
Speaker 9: There are people who think that they're unlocked, that they
Speaker 9: should not be, and people who who I think I
Speaker 9: think more people out there can sing and be creative
Speaker 9: and play music that don't think that they can. I
Speaker 9: do believe that because because it has come from somewhere
Speaker 9: and I know that my both my parents and they
Speaker 9: would be reluctant to say can sing. They just don't sing,
Speaker 9: and they don't think that they can, you know, like,
Speaker 9: but I'd never not a muscle to use. You know
Speaker 9: what tone death sounds like? Absolutely, and neither one of
Speaker 9: them are. So if there might have been something there,
Speaker 9: and you know, if I had gone another way, maybe
Speaker 9: I wouldn't have discovered it about myself.
Speaker 1: You know, do you remember the first concert you went to?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah I do.
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is your base City Rollers moment,
Speaker 1: so remember everyone has.
Speaker 9: The beginning of course, and by the way, like as
Speaker 9: embarrassing I'm selling. So it was nineteen ninety New Kids on.
Speaker 3: The Blank I was talking about.
Speaker 8: They say the same thing.
Speaker 9: Come on, kids, I know we were supposed to hate
Speaker 9: them because we were ten and all the girls liked them,
Speaker 9: and shit, right now that we do.
Speaker 1: We were supposed to.
Speaker 9: I was ten or eleven, and I was really, really,
Speaker 9: really into like the hair band ship because that was that.
Speaker 1: Was it, that was that was pop music, was no
Speaker 1: no real hair bands.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I went to see Warrant, Yeah song, I knew no,
Speaker 9: this was actually I think this might have been like
Speaker 9: either pre Cherry Pie. I think it might have been
Speaker 9: like dirty, rotten, filthy, stinking rich was with the album
Speaker 9: that was big, with like some deep shit that like.
Speaker 9: I went to go see him the Santa Monica Civic
Speaker 9: Auditorium with my dad because I wouln't go alone. I
Speaker 9: was ten, you know, And I just remember going there
Speaker 9: and I will never forget just the scene was so
Speaker 9: crazy and the hairspraying like crazy, and then they played.
Speaker 9: I can't say that they were very good, but it
Speaker 9: was so impressive just to hear sound come out of
Speaker 9: a PA loud in your face and I had never
Speaker 9: really heard that, so I was just like wow. But
Speaker 9: I remember the worst thing about the show that will
Speaker 9: never forget was the drummer did a drum solo. Yo,
Speaker 9: let me tell you what this guy did, okay, because
Speaker 9: I can't you can't even make it up because it's
Speaker 9: so eighties you can't even make it up. The dude
Speaker 9: they like put the spotlight on him and he like
Speaker 9: stood up and like.
Speaker 1: I started rolling in.
Speaker 4: And it was.
Speaker 9: He didn't do anything else. But yet, never forget it.
Speaker 1: Charisma goes a long long way because right now, God,
Speaker 1: I hope this is doing come off front right now,
Speaker 1: I'm watching a whole slew a Verdeing White. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: wind fire, And because I witnessed that in real time
Speaker 1: as a kid, yo, I thought it was the most
Speaker 1: amazing ship I ever seen. Like he would do like
Speaker 1: all this theatrical thing, but he basically was the only
Speaker 1: pressing one note, Like he would just press e e
Speaker 1: and like, but he put so much theatrics into it.
Speaker 1: He did like and then like it was like the
Speaker 1: earthquake effect, and then he was like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do this again and then fall on the ground
Speaker 1: and then he would anyway. And then suddenly suddenly he
Speaker 1: even start levitating and floating all in the you know,
Speaker 1: because they had like Dug Henning and David Copperfield like
Speaker 1: on staff to do the magic ship. And I realized, like, wow,
Speaker 1: Verdie White just did right a four minute one note thing,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was the greatest shit on it.
Speaker 9: But for the record that that sounds way doper than
Speaker 9: what I'm talking about. It was too long, you know,
Speaker 9: how long was It seemed like an eternity it was,
Speaker 9: And I was so young for me to think it
Speaker 9: was lame was crazy, like play the drums, please do something.
Speaker 9: But yes, the showmanship. Of course, the showmanship has a
Speaker 9: part of it, and it was like I'm still talking
Speaker 9: about it thirty million years later, right, had an impact?
Speaker 1: Well, see, I didn't put myself in the corner because
Speaker 1: every gospel drummer thinks like I trashed there. Look Mino
Speaker 1: hands method that now I feel like I can't even
Speaker 1: go there. And then of course Chris Dave has his
Speaker 1: his eccentric thing with every drummer following his thing. So
Speaker 1: now it's like, even if I wanted to get back
Speaker 1: into go to showman, that's basically why stroves here. Like
Speaker 1: I'm feel like.
Speaker 5: Anderson kills it too on of them drums, the way
Speaker 5: he gets up and does his little theatrics too.
Speaker 1: I gotta bring theatrics back, all right, my my ike
Speaker 1: turning wig.
Speaker 6: It's a really good question for both of you, is
Speaker 6: like in your situations and anybody entertainment, I guess how
Speaker 6: much to what that mix is between showmanship and sh musicianship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I overthink it. I mean for me because Kirk
Speaker 1: as a guitar player, so theatrical i'd rather and you
Speaker 1: know right, but it's it's just like everyone else is
Speaker 1: so theatrical. I don't feel the need to just add
Speaker 1: on top of like people know I'm there and I'm
Speaker 1: fine with that. So basically, but as.
Speaker 6: A band, you're blending showmanship and musicianship too as a whole.
Speaker 1: I think we're at our best when we're not doing
Speaker 1: shit and we're all just playing together as a unit,
Speaker 1: which is not as impressive as says.
Speaker 9: You asked for a minute. But I think what makes
Speaker 9: you so special is that you don't have that. You
Speaker 9: don't know what I don't do. You want to take
Speaker 9: the extreme opposite of the dude I'm talking about this
Speaker 9: ship like he needed.
Speaker 5: That, so you too add him to question that that
Speaker 5: Steve asked, right, like, how do you figure that balance out?
Speaker 9: What's crazy is like the showmanship thing is always felt
Speaker 9: kind of secondary because and we've existed in a weird
Speaker 9: space where like there's a lot of pop pop stuff
Speaker 9: and we're a band, so like, at at the end
Speaker 9: of the day, we're kind of a very normal, you know,
Speaker 9: five piece well now six piece band, and so we've
Speaker 9: never felt like we'd actually fit in anywhere, and so
Speaker 9: performing has always just been very straightforward for us, Like
Speaker 9: the music leads first, a showmanship thing. I'm working on
Speaker 9: my whole life, you know, as far as being a
Speaker 9: good front man and stuff started when we got James
Speaker 9: to play in the band because I needed that. Was
Speaker 9: when guys were like, hey, you need to like be
Speaker 9: out front and not have to play guitar the whole time.
Speaker 9: And James joined them, you know, twenty twenty something years ago,
Speaker 9: so I could focus on doing that. But it's never
Speaker 9: been like like a pop star comfortable thing for me
Speaker 9: to like perform perform. It's always just like, okay, I'm
Speaker 9: saying I'm up here singing yeah, and then the rest
Speaker 9: of it is just kind of naturally came over.
Speaker 8: You always felt pop star by accident, Like well.
Speaker 9: It's not even necessarily by accidents, but okay, Like the
Speaker 9: first time I was on the Voice and we did
Speaker 9: a performance, this is a perfect example. They tried to
Speaker 9: choreographed me to put me in a spot to go,
Speaker 9: and she was like and she God bless her, she
Speaker 9: didn't know what to do with me because I was
Speaker 9: She's like, okay, and then you're gonna walk over here.
Speaker 9: And the director of the show, the choreographer, choreographer, choreographer
Speaker 9: sh choreographed for and uh and she and she was
Speaker 9: like you okay, So halfway through the song, you're gonna
Speaker 9: come and I was like, hey, hey, I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't have the capacity to know or remember that.
Speaker 9: So like, yeah, hitting marks and going here and dancing
Speaker 9: and all that is always and thank god has always
Speaker 9: will be foreign to me because I just.
Speaker 8: Like, oh, you don't like to be staged.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm like allergic to it.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 9: I can't I'm popping up out of the floor. And yeah,
Speaker 9: but here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Normally, about forty five minutes an hour into the podcast
Speaker 1: we get to this part of the subject. But I'll
Speaker 1: just bring it up now, are you a former reluctant leader?
Speaker 1: Because I also know that to be in your position
Speaker 1: is very awkward because the thing is, I'm assuming that
Speaker 1: this in every group dynamic situation one you're the chosen one,
Speaker 1: more falls on your back. I think we also run
Speaker 1: with this narrative that like, if you're too charismatic or
Speaker 1: two in front or out there, that your credibility, like
Speaker 1: you don't a bunch of me like Wardolphin, the Statler
Speaker 1: people are yeah judging you.
Speaker 9: You know how it is you started playing music in
Speaker 9: a band and then people emerge and as people come
Speaker 9: to the front, and I was always kind of there,
Speaker 9: and then I think I always had like a I
Speaker 9: would say, if I'm being super honest, like I wanted
Speaker 9: to be out front. I wanted to be that guy.
Speaker 9: But then the weird thing happened. This is a whole
Speaker 9: other tangent. But when I started doing like co writes,
Speaker 9: shit up a little. Hey, what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 9: Because this is a band, And so that happened.
Speaker 1: You guys, don't do the equal one fifth one fifth
Speaker 1: one fifth one.
Speaker 9: Well, now when you're right, well, here's the well we did.
Speaker 1: We did.
Speaker 9: And my whole thing from the beginning was like, so
Speaker 9: if you write this, you're part of it. You write this,
Speaker 9: you're part of it. But yes, it was it was
Speaker 9: always fair. And then the code write start happening, and
Speaker 9: that was that was less about money. That was more
Speaker 9: about just the soul of a band. And I think
Speaker 9: all of our minds potentially being corrupted by the process
Speaker 9: of having someone else's ideas come in and and and
Speaker 9: uh take over. So that was a controversial moment for
Speaker 9: us internally, but then it worked. So then it was like,
Speaker 9: I mean, the first code write was moves like Jagger.
Speaker 1: So that was wow.
Speaker 9: That was like, oh shit, like maybe we're gonna do
Speaker 9: this for a while, you know. And so that was
Speaker 9: a negotiation of me being like, hey, it's working. We
Speaker 9: got a couple biggies, like, let's just like trust me
Speaker 9: and if I see it and if it's not working anymore,
Speaker 9: you know, and if whatever I'm doing for us, let
Speaker 9: me lead, and if it's not working then then well
Speaker 9: and I said this to him straight up, we'll talk
Speaker 9: about it, we'll regroup, we'll make things a little more democratic,
Speaker 9: but right now, just let me lead and let me
Speaker 9: take it. And they were super cool with it because
Speaker 9: I was, well, like they were cooler than in the
Speaker 9: time that right, But yes, I communicated very like openly
Speaker 9: and straightforwardly and they appreciated it. And then we had
Speaker 9: like eight in a row, you know, so like they
Speaker 9: couldn't really sing yet.
Speaker 1: Right, and that I feel like what you just said
Speaker 1: is actually the most important part, because I'll say, for
Speaker 1: what I'm doing now, this is probably the most that
Speaker 1: Taraka and I have ever communicated. And it's it's not
Speaker 1: as awkward as it used to be. You guys will
Speaker 1: grow up and know you have to like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's a very scary thing because like I'm very fragile
Speaker 1: with rejection. I work my ass off for like four
Speaker 1: days on that project and be like, what do you think?
Speaker 1: You know, it's cool, and then like suddenly I started
Speaker 1: giving feelings. So I'm now learning how to and.
Speaker 9: Not ego all of it. We all have them, and
Speaker 9: especially bands, and so I think, like I was just
Speaker 9: talking about this yesterday too, like we're really lucky because
Speaker 9: everyone really likes each other and wants to get along,
Speaker 9: you know, And I think, like, tell me a band
Speaker 9: has been able to stay together. We've been together for
Speaker 9: twenty years, you know, longer almost, so it's like and
Speaker 9: we actually don't want to kill each other, you know sometimes,
Speaker 9: but you know, we love each other and the respect
Speaker 9: is has always been there, and it's there. But we're
Speaker 9: lucky like that.
Speaker 1: Do you guys try to do things off site? There
Speaker 1: was a moment where we would like Threek Love's cooking, so,
Speaker 1: you know, dinner at my house, that sort of thing
Speaker 1: where it's not us getting together because.
Speaker 9: We're bad at spending time together when we're apart from work.
Speaker 9: But I will say work for us when we work
Speaker 9: is we're hanging so it feels like we're just chilling.
Speaker 9: Even when we're just backstage for hours or whatever. It
Speaker 9: is so like I feel like that time is super
Speaker 9: special to us them When we disperse, it's like see it,
Speaker 9: see it.
Speaker 1: A month probably yeah.
Speaker 9: But no off premise activity we do. Of course we do.
Speaker 6: There's moon five, go bowling together and stuff.
Speaker 1: Like that, bowling big bowler or no like on days
Speaker 1: off from touring, there's no.
Speaker 9: I'm the worst at participating in those things. Okay, I'm
Speaker 9: gonna say, vocal rest, you need a break. Hey, it's
Speaker 9: a real thing.
Speaker 1: I hate nothing more than when vocal rest gets used
Speaker 1: as a reason.
Speaker 7: All the time.
Speaker 1: Never it will be the one to scream at you too.
Speaker 1: I thought he's on vocal rest.
Speaker 9: Sometimes you just can't help it. Vocal rest is real.
Speaker 9: Abused as a thing also true, But it is real
Speaker 9: when you rest your voices.
Speaker 1: Are you the towel around?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 9: No, no no no. I don't talk from my Ship's
Speaker 9: like reasonable. I'll go to bed at like whatever time
Speaker 9: and like I wake up and I don't talk for
Speaker 9: like three four or five hours.
Speaker 1: Wow, So it's that real.
Speaker 5: But then I can talk, Okay, that must be a
Speaker 5: hell of a thing when you was doing the voice
Speaker 5: and stuff, and then you had to do other things
Speaker 5: like voice.
Speaker 8: Through me so much talk.
Speaker 9: I don't know. That was a hard hard time because
Speaker 9: I had to do all these different things. I want
Speaker 9: a lot of energy on a multitasking.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Adam, when you first realize that you could sing,
Speaker 7: that you had like a high tenor voice.
Speaker 9: Probably like I was like ten eleven in my voice,
Speaker 9: you know, as you can imagine, I had an extraordinarily
Speaker 9: high pre puberty voice that was like angelophone and be like,
Speaker 9: oh hey manuld you put it right right right? I
Speaker 9: was like, that's fun. Mark left the mark on it
Speaker 9: paid off?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 9: I had this amazing I always talk about him because
Speaker 9: he's the greatest. He passed away, which is awful because
Speaker 9: I wish you could have seen all the wonderful things
Speaker 9: that got to happen. But my music teacher when I
Speaker 9: was in elementary school was this really kind of boisterous, loud,
Speaker 9: amazing piano player singing. This was always sweating from singing,
Speaker 9: love the whole thing. And we'd sit in music class
Speaker 9: and I wanted to be a basketball player, like an athlete.
Speaker 9: I didn't like think music was cool really when I
Speaker 9: was nine, you know, and probably like ten eleven to
Speaker 9: twelve when I started to get into it. But he
Speaker 9: told me I could sing, and he pulled me aside.
Speaker 9: And it was me and this other kid who wound
Speaker 9: up becoming an opera singer, which is crazy. And he
Speaker 9: would pulls aside every day after he said, you guys
Speaker 9: are so good at this, Like you don't understand. You
Speaker 9: guys are very very good singer. As you can sing,
Speaker 9: you should do And I was like, ah.
Speaker 1: I what' evering?
Speaker 8: How would he hear you? How did he know?
Speaker 9: Because I mean he would walk around and he would
Speaker 9: see and you'd hear. Also, it's easy what no one
Speaker 9: can sing, like when someone can sing a little bit,
Speaker 9: you can tell. But I was just shy and I
Speaker 9: started playing guitar and still didn't want to sing. And
Speaker 9: the only reason I became a singer is because I
Speaker 9: was literally just the best guy in the band at singing.
Speaker 9: So I wasn't very good at it when I started,
Speaker 9: especially live, and then that of course like overtime.
Speaker 1: So with Kara's Flowers, the group that Maroon five eventually
Speaker 1: morphed into what was the lineup and the whole division
Speaker 1: of labor and that like who was singing?
Speaker 9: Who I was singing? In Cars Flowers, I was always
Speaker 9: the singer. I was always the lead singer. There was
Speaker 9: it was you know, guys did background vocals and the
Speaker 9: songs were like like I wrote weird songs about nothing
Speaker 9: because I was so young and to write about.
Speaker 1: So when you started fifteen, every group starts off as
Speaker 1: a prototype of what they would like to follow.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, first it was first it was Pearl Jam
Speaker 9: and then it morphed into like Weezer, you know what
Speaker 9: I mean. Like it was like the time because it
Speaker 9: was your kids, so like you just like you take
Speaker 9: on like whatever you're in love with musically, so like,
Speaker 9: and then we got signed to Warner Brothers to reprise
Speaker 9: as Cars Flowers and we're at that point. The music
Speaker 9: it was so weird. It was like cool, kind of
Speaker 9: power popping music, but like the lyrics were so whack
Speaker 9: and crazy. I can't believe that's actually out there. So yeah,
Speaker 9: it was like a product of the times again, like
Speaker 9: the nineties, like you know, kind of poppy, power poppy.
Speaker 9: I guess what year was this, Yeah, ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Who produced it?
Speaker 9: Rob Cavallo, Yeah, so so a whole you have a
Speaker 9: whole other life.
Speaker 1: I want to know this hit me hit me.
Speaker 9: So when I was I was in high school, we
Speaker 9: played it a I forgot how we found out, but
Speaker 9: basically we played a high school like a uni high
Speaker 9: school party, university party, and his sister saw us play
Speaker 9: Rob's sister. But yeah, anyway, he saw me play and
Speaker 9: then we got wound up getting signed before high school
Speaker 9: was over. So what was that?
Speaker 1: Like I woulitness boys to men and go through that
Speaker 1: in high school.
Speaker 9: So also remember well remember first of all, I lead nowhere,
Speaker 9: but like the initial like the contract, the hemorrhaging money
Speaker 9: making a fucking record because it was back in the
Speaker 9: day when like a spend spend.
Speaker 1: Spend actual recording budgets.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, Like you were him great when you
Speaker 9: got signed eleventh grade.
Speaker 1: So what were you thinking? Like back in the eleventh grade,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm making it, and.
Speaker 8: Who's reading your paperwork?
Speaker 9: We were good like it was, but also look like
Speaker 9: the record deals of the past, because we got a
Speaker 9: little and we had a failed record deal that we
Speaker 9: soon dropped from, you know, so but we we had
Speaker 9: a record deal where it was like if they let
Speaker 9: us go. They had to pay us Like that will
Speaker 9: never happen forever, zero success.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, will co learned from Repries?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah yeah, so like that was like a different
Speaker 9: time of the recommends, but it was a learning experience
Speaker 9: and it was fun. But yeah, Rob produced a record
Speaker 9: and this was like he just produced Green Day. So
Speaker 9: we were like, oh shit, here we go, like bam,
Speaker 9: record went nowhere, sold like eight copies. They dropped us
Speaker 9: like a year later.
Speaker 1: Okay, since you got signed in ninety six, can I
Speaker 1: take a whild guess that because I'm like, wait, you
Speaker 1: guys were super young when they signed you. Were they
Speaker 1: trying to cash in on the h Hanson kind of?
Speaker 9: Here's what I was gonna say, no, because we were
Speaker 9: much like we were way more alternative, like like when
Speaker 9: we first started, who's.
Speaker 1: The trio from Australia that also was your Chair? Was
Speaker 1: it more to that?
Speaker 9: Or we weren't that grungy either, like like it was
Speaker 9: just That's what I was gonna say, though, was so
Speaker 9: rare like back then maybe different in pop music, but
Speaker 9: being a band that's that young, there was no one
Speaker 9: literally like remember like Ben Lee had a thing where
Speaker 9: he was like Holy shit, they signed the second coming sixteen.
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 9: It wasn't like there was all these bands being signed,
Speaker 9: so that was it was very rare to get the
Speaker 9: deal in the first place. And I think like even
Speaker 9: back then, like everyone knew kind of like, oh, these
Speaker 9: kids might make it someday, but I'm not sure. This
Speaker 9: is the you know, iteration to day right and do
Speaker 9: it for. It was a wild time being a senior
Speaker 9: in high school. Every day leaving school and driving to
Speaker 9: like Conway.
Speaker 1: Wow, it was like post death Road Conway too.
Speaker 9: Hey, canon, baby, that some ship you went there? I did.
Speaker 9: I took a to say anything.
Speaker 1: It was post that came.
Speaker 3: That's where all the death songs and stories came from.
Speaker 1: So many stories.
Speaker 9: Okay, but we mixed there like years later. It was nothing.
Speaker 9: It was like two thousand.
Speaker 1: Wait didn't we Did we go to Conway or cam
Speaker 1: Conway is like deep? Like, uh, did we record there once?
Speaker 1: We did an episode there once.
Speaker 9: I have to have been there before.
Speaker 3: I was there with Storms.
Speaker 8: That's where we did too Short with Dennis Quaid.
Speaker 1: We did. Yeah, But I didn't known that studio, did he?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 8: No, no, no, I'm just saying I don't think it was.
Speaker 1: I think it was Conway's studios.
Speaker 9: There's no way you've lived your whole life and not
Speaker 9: been there at least once.
Speaker 1: Maybe not been there once. It's super cooler.
Speaker 9: It's like a great studio. Anyway, I was a kid,
Speaker 9: I was going to place. I was like, wow, like
Speaker 9: it was the most and I get there two years
Speaker 9: young too. I was like, let's get food. Let's order
Speaker 9: all of the cheesecake factory, that whole menu. That's a big.
Speaker 1: Son.
Speaker 5: It was the.
Speaker 7: Books, like, I do not need some podstickers and a steak, dude,
Speaker 7: can I okay?
Speaker 8: The avocado eggroll brown bread they gave you in the beginning,
Speaker 8: that was.
Speaker 1: The most soulful I've ever seen.
Speaker 8: That was so so much pressure. It's so much pressure.
Speaker 1: Wait, give me a second, because I have to acknowledge
Speaker 1: like that was the most I felt scene.
Speaker 3: The moment I've been on the show, because I got
Speaker 3: to explain.
Speaker 1: To you guys that when you realize what the perks
Speaker 1: are of this job, the second that you realize that
Speaker 1: you get access to free, unlimited quality food.
Speaker 3: I always tell the story of Wendy Goldstein.
Speaker 1: Having a refrigerator with nothing but orange juice in it,
Speaker 1: like thing of the way that they opened thefrigerator in
Speaker 1: nothing but a g thing whatever. It's like.
Speaker 3: When she opened that specific all the roots look at
Speaker 3: each other like yo.
Speaker 1: And then next thing, you know, she went to the
Speaker 1: bat whatever. We just housing oliver orange juice. But dog,
Speaker 1: you can't believe it.
Speaker 9: I can't believe it, I'm telling you. Or you know
Speaker 9: the three the books Mexican food, every menu, Italian food,
Speaker 9: like three menus per page. As Oh yeah, we.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't even have sessions at We would just know that
Speaker 1: we had an account at a specific studio like that
Speaker 1: was the original post Mates.
Speaker 3: We just go buy battery studios and orders it and
Speaker 3: be like charge.
Speaker 1: How about that?
Speaker 9: How about the fact that someone's gonna go get it
Speaker 9: and bring it back before our dad?
Speaker 5: Y'all don't know what these these folks are talking about
Speaker 5: right now, Ya, there's ultimate before Postmates.
Speaker 9: It's still I still do not over it.
Speaker 1: I'm still like you get this from me in long distance?
Speaker 5: Oh god, as you finished reading a cheese cakegment and
Speaker 5: long distance, boy, that was awesome.
Speaker 1: So what were your expectations at that time? Super high?
Speaker 9: Just so high, because I mean they were always high.
Speaker 9: But I think like the only time that I had
Speaker 9: delusional I think. I always say, like, you have to
Speaker 9: have a delusional amount of self confidence to make it,
Speaker 9: because you have to really believe like a lot.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, in this mind state that I'm
Speaker 1: trying to permanently place myself in, like is delusion? Is
Speaker 1: that really a thing? Yes?
Speaker 9: Okay, well yes, yeah, it's all semantics how you want
Speaker 9: to word it, because.
Speaker 4: It's very much like it's like, there's this book I
Speaker 4: read like a while but when uh, it's called Good
Speaker 4: to Great.
Speaker 1: It's a business book.
Speaker 4: And one of the things that they talk about, like
Speaker 4: the CEOs that like took their companies to like record
Speaker 4: growth and shit. One of the things they all found
Speaker 4: out was they used something called the Stockdale paradox, and
Speaker 4: what it is is based on this general gym Stockdale.
Speaker 4: I don't want to fuck his name up, but anyway,
Speaker 4: he was a pow president like Vietnam and shit, and
Speaker 4: so when he made it out, you know, he would
Speaker 4: talk and people would ask him, well, how did you
Speaker 4: make it like what it was? And the thing he
Speaker 4: said was, you know, the first thing I did was
Speaker 4: I understood that I had to accept the brutal reality
Speaker 4: of what it was like. I had to accept just
Speaker 4: the brutal reality, but still at the same time understand
Speaker 4: that there was a way that I couldn't make it out.
Speaker 4: And he said, you know, the people who didn't make
Speaker 4: it were the people who was like, ah, we'll be
Speaker 4: out by November. Then November comes, we'll be out by December.
Speaker 4: Then January comes, we'll be out by whatever. They don't
Speaker 4: make it, because those are the people. They don't make
Speaker 4: it because they die of a broken heart, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 1: So you have to have.
Speaker 4: You have to enter how especially in the music industry,
Speaker 4: you shitn't me like, you have to see like, Okay,
Speaker 4: this shit is fucked up, but you have to have
Speaker 4: that delusional belief in yourself that you'll make it no
Speaker 4: matter what.
Speaker 1: So I feel the filtered way that makes total sense,
Speaker 1: and I get it. So basically, you're saying you have
Speaker 1: to stay in the present and pivot towards your future,
Speaker 1: which we rarely do. Like a lot of people are
Speaker 1: either ruled by either tragedy or charmer in their past
Speaker 1: that makes them how they are now and they don't
Speaker 1: get over the past. And so I see that now,
Speaker 1: but I also do believe that for everyone that I've
Speaker 1: ever judged. Mind you, these are toxic people now sort
Speaker 1: of going through their shit. But anyone that we ever
Speaker 1: ruled as arrogant or fool themselves or that sort of thing,
Speaker 1: I also noticed that they've made it because they had
Speaker 1: to convince themselves that, yeah, that m ward social paths.
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, you have to well here's the thing.
Speaker 5: To be.
Speaker 1: Don't don't be that.
Speaker 3: In a nice way.
Speaker 9: God, these are all very tricky conversations, do you think so?
Speaker 9: But delusional self confidence and manifest destiny could be the
Speaker 9: same thing, right, Like, It's just I think one is
Speaker 9: a little more cynical and silly, So like, okay, delusional
Speaker 9: self like that's like you say that tongue in cheek,
Speaker 9: and then manifest that's these a little more more gravitas.
Speaker 9: It's heavier, so you're like, okay, it's more serious. It's
Speaker 9: the same idea. There's also a time to know when
Speaker 9: you want to talk about like things like flow state
Speaker 9: and ship where it's like, okay, you also need to
Speaker 9: know what the's going on to you can't just be
Speaker 9: crazy and I'm gonna make because then there's that side,
Speaker 9: which is like and by the way, it's people who
Speaker 9: have no talent can have the ship that work out
Speaker 9: for them.
Speaker 1: That's the talent.
Speaker 9: That's exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like great imposter syndrome. And like real imposters,
Speaker 4: they don't have that syndrome, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like there's no like like damn, he's fonte just like
Speaker 4: scammers and ship like them. Niggas believe every word they saying.
Speaker 4: They have no disbelief in themselves. They will lie like
Speaker 4: a motherfucker. So I yeah, imposter syndrome.
Speaker 9: That ain't believing it you have. Imposter syndrome is almost
Speaker 9: like the insecurity that exists when you're not exactly because
Speaker 9: you actually have a conscience.
Speaker 1: But also we're pre programmed as people pleasers to like
Speaker 1: I gotta seem humble out this thing.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to lose that ship.
Speaker 9: It fascinates me though, to see when someone is capable
Speaker 9: of being borderline sociopathics and not giving a ship about
Speaker 9: how they come off and being crazy about it because
Speaker 9: you're like, wow, that is like that would make me
Speaker 9: so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a hard thing to learn. But basically,
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to get out of you is. So
Speaker 1: there was a moment where I felt like, yo, we
Speaker 1: got a deal, everyone grew great, it's awesome. And then
Speaker 1: three weeks into it then I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: this is not going to work. And it took it
Speaker 1: took five years to get me out of the depression
Speaker 1: of we're not going to make it.
Speaker 9: But that's a big moment.
Speaker 1: How did but how did you that?
Speaker 9: We haven't gotten there yet in the story, right, because
Speaker 9: if you're successful now standing here today, every single one
Speaker 9: of us has had a failure that they had to
Speaker 9: deal with a big one, at least one big one.
Speaker 9: And so yes, you experience that first failure. You're riding high,
Speaker 9: you're like, hey, we got this record deal, money, fucking cheesecake,
Speaker 9: and then all of a sudden in which we all know,
Speaker 9: it all goes away and you're like, oh shit, no
Speaker 9: more cheesecake, no more money, no more, no more fame.
Speaker 9: I'm not going to go platinum, you know.
Speaker 1: And how long start over? How long was it until
Speaker 1: we got signed?
Speaker 9: We were like seventeen eighteen, almost eighteen. Our parents had
Speaker 9: to sign the contracting. Awesome, it's just crazy crazy. They
Speaker 9: also had sat in the room so we graduated high
Speaker 9: school and I was like peace, like.
Speaker 1: Over straight to the road.
Speaker 9: And then I would say, by like December of that year,
Speaker 9: graduating only the summertime, early summer, and then by December
Speaker 9: it was like, oh ship, this is not happening. All right,
Speaker 9: it's done, and then it kind of started unwrappling. So
Speaker 9: that moment was like whoa, this is uh, this fucked
Speaker 9: up because your dreams are just dashed. Like you know
Speaker 9: how that it goes because a minute the minute, it's
Speaker 9: so fascinate you think you're going somewhere and then you're not,
Speaker 9: and then back then at least I don't know if
Speaker 9: it's the same thing now, but like once you're tainted
Speaker 9: in the record business, like so if we get anyone
Speaker 9: to like us again, to sign us, it'll be really tough.
Speaker 9: Fortunately we kind of did. But that moment is like,
Speaker 9: really the water you made of moment?
Speaker 3: How hard was it to change the name because that's
Speaker 3: the moment where you realize that.
Speaker 9: Stupid name so much. I hate all I hate room,
Speaker 9: the name of Room five, I hate the name of
Speaker 9: cars Flowers, I hate band damn band names are stupid.
Speaker 9: All of us, all of us get to be called
Speaker 9: the Roots, bro.
Speaker 1: We were forced.
Speaker 3: We wanted to be square rooms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well to go with the Roots was smart.
Speaker 9: Well it's a great band name, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: How did you How did you come up with Carris
Speaker 3: Flowers and my room?
Speaker 1: Five?
Speaker 9: Cars Flowers was easy? More than five. I will never
Speaker 9: tell anybody. I told Billy Joel.
Speaker 3: He knows.
Speaker 9: Ask him.
Speaker 1: We gotta get Joel.
Speaker 8: We will at it.
Speaker 9: And he doesn't remember because really had a few and
Speaker 9: didn't care.
Speaker 7: It sounds like every day.
Speaker 9: Yeah he was. I told him because I knew for
Speaker 9: a fact. And it's a very unremarkable story. Cars Flowers
Speaker 9: is so dumb, I mean, like so dumb because we
Speaker 9: were fifteen, So we snuck out of the house. Our boy,
Speaker 9: the drummer could drive. Our rummer could drive, so he,
Speaker 9: like I had a big old wagoneer and uh, we
Speaker 9: went to Norms on on like LOSTI Ina in West
Speaker 9: Hollywood and you know you're out and like your parents
Speaker 9: know you're gone, and you're the norms getting steak and
Speaker 9: eggs for three ninety nine and being a band and
Speaker 9: being stupid Norms bro. I mean, come on, it's nasty, you.
Speaker 1: Gotta it's great. At one in the morning.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, it was late night norms. And we're eating.
Speaker 9: We're like, we're gonna be in a band or be
Speaker 9: fucking huge. We gotta get a name. It was that time.
Speaker 9: So there's no better time in your life than that
Speaker 9: those times. And uh and then we were like and
Speaker 9: we all loved this girl named Kara. I don't know why,
Speaker 9: we just loved it. God bless your car, you're amazing.
Speaker 9: So she lived like north of Sunset, like like right
Speaker 9: above the whiskey, like you know, the whiskey was yes,
Speaker 9: like right there, and we like loved her for some reason,
Speaker 9: and so we did our drummer like wanted it.
Speaker 1: He brought her.
Speaker 9: We brought her flowers that night or something like. The
Speaker 9: recollection of it is probably pretty hazy, but anyway we were.
Speaker 9: And so we're back at his house and we're like
Speaker 9: cars flowers.
Speaker 8: It's kind of awesome.
Speaker 9: And then like we played the whiskey for our first
Speaker 9: gig and it said car flowers and like she lived,
Speaker 9: you know.
Speaker 3: So so she was the Rosanna Arcuata you guys, is
Speaker 3: Toto exactly nice?
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, y'all, I hate to do this, but this
Speaker 5: is where part one that's okay. Stay tuned next week
Speaker 5: or check your podcast feed for part two of Questlove
Speaker 5: Supreme with Adam Levine. Oh, and then that next one,
Speaker 5: he's going to talk about some of those Maroon five
Speaker 5: songs that you know in love and other collaborations.
Speaker 8: Oh, plus he listened to some of his favorite albums
Speaker 8: of all time.
Speaker 5: And oh, y'all, just when you think he doesn't get
Speaker 5: any better, a surprise guest drops through.
Speaker 8: I really want to tell you who.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna hurry up and end this before I spoiled
Speaker 5: surprise that they may have been on the show before.
Speaker 5: So thank you and please like, subscribe, review, follow, and
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Speaker 8: See y'all next week.
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