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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the

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Speaker 1: honor of kicking off our new podcast studio, The Seat

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Speaker 1: Geeks Studio with head coach Sean Harwall. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: I'm the one who's honored. This is amazing you guys.

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Speaker 2: It's always honored to be with you two guys. This

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Speaker 2: amazing studio in here. Man, this is big time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty big upgrade for the lounge, big upgrade.

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Speaker 1: Gary got a new office. Now we have a new

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Speaker 1: podcast to hear about his big.

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Speaker 2: I haven't I have not heard you know, I haven't

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Speaker 2: been invited down.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna make the invitation right after this podcast

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Speaker 3: office warming part. I like this idea. I like this idea.

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Speaker 1: He got tired of sharing an office with me. Whole

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Speaker 1: we shared office.

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Speaker 3: He got tired, like a decade plus.

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Speaker 2: How'd you do it?

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Speaker 3: That's my point. He's like, why'd you leave? I was like,

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Speaker 3: I was trying to leave like eight years ago.

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Speaker 1: Well, we got to start here. So the schedule release

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Speaker 1: came out and you sent Stave on a mission, right,

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Speaker 1: And my question is were there any repercussions from him

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Speaker 1: maxing out the credit card or because he got the

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Speaker 1: mission accomplished, you know, he was he was free to go.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so this is the this is the sequel series.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like a like a mission impossible type

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Speaker 4: of a series that may be barking on.

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Speaker 2: In the future.

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Speaker 4: Well in that in the in the spirit of that,

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Speaker 4: we can't we can't divulge anything that could be coming

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Speaker 4: up in the future.

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Speaker 2: But it was fun that that that guy is funny, man.

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Speaker 4: I mean when we shot it, and and you guys

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Speaker 4: were so creative with it, but when we shot it,

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Speaker 4: his face made me crack up just just looking at

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Speaker 4: him just I would try to say a lot. I

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Speaker 4: was just looking at we have that face like this

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Speaker 4: said face of his was just like I couldn't stop laughing.

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Speaker 4: It's a funny guy face the whole the whole look,

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Speaker 4: the facial expressions. He's really and you know, you learn.

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Speaker 4: I mean, these guys are pros. He's so smart, he's

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Speaker 4: such a great comedian. It was really kind of a

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Speaker 4: it was it was really kind of a for me

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Speaker 4: to see how those.

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Speaker 2: Things are done. I kind of I really enjoyed that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well he actually told me afterwards that it was fun

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Speaker 3: working with you. And this is true. He said, like

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Speaker 3: sometimes I work with Hollywood actors and like they don't

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Speaker 3: really take coaching. He was like, even when we were

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Speaker 3: there's any little thing that he had a suggestion, he

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Speaker 3: was like, coach Arbal was easy to work with. He's

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Speaker 3: better than some of the actors I work with. So

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Speaker 3: I might have a future there. You trying to go

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Speaker 3: to acting.

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Speaker 2: I acted as a coach on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So, speaking of the schedule release, just want to get

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Speaker 1: some of your initial thoughts on that. And first of all,

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Speaker 1: the matchup with your brother, I think everybody was waiting

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Speaker 1: is that for bragging rights over Thanksgiving? That's kind of

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Speaker 1: the stakes of that game personally for you. I mean

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Speaker 1: but it's like FaceTime bragging rights.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny. That'll definitely be the storyline.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll be talking about that. But you know,

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Speaker 4: it's such an emotional thing. It runs so much deeper

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Speaker 2: We both we both root for each.

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Speaker 4: Other, we both have each other's back all the time,

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Speaker 4: and yet we're compete against each other, and yeah, there

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Speaker 4: is a pride part of it. You know, you do

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Speaker 4: want to win, but not just for you, for your guys,

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Speaker 4: for the organization, for the standings. I mean, there's so

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Speaker 4: much at stake. I you know, our guys are even

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Speaker 4: So it's not so much as yeah, who's going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious, you know, as you talk about your

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Speaker 4: I like it because it's just another it's my guy,

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Speaker 4: all that, but you know, there's really not that kind

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Speaker 4: along with this team when we play him, But the

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Speaker 4: rest of the time, he's my brother, you know. So

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Speaker 4: it's nice to have someone, you know, that I can

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Speaker 4: or know that I've got someone to go to lunch with,

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Speaker 4: I've had a couple of meetings where like, no one

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Speaker 4: You know, It's like Jim still likes me, so everything's okay.

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Speaker 1: I felt that many times alone. I mean, I do

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Speaker 1: is really cool how you two always have each other's backs,

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Speaker 1: brother relationship. We both have brothers, like we we kind

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Speaker 1: of know that and it's a special bond. But now

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Speaker 1: can't talk about everything strategic wise that you could have

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Speaker 1: of you kind of miss that? You're happy, of course

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Speaker 1: that he's back in the NFL and has the job

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Speaker 1: he wanted. But you kind of meant like, man, now

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt.

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Speaker 4: There's a little bit that I think he would probably

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Speaker 4: and we do have.

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Speaker 2: We had.

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Speaker 4: We've had some really good conversations helping each other in

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Speaker 4: the last couple of months about different things, but other things.

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Speaker 2: Are held back. It has to be right, it has

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Speaker 4: Open about how we're playing a play or what we're

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Speaker 4: just no way even the draft. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 4: little bit of a chess master when you're talking. We

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Speaker 4: because we know we're not going to tell each other anything.

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Speaker 4: But I did tell him when he had the fifth pick,

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Speaker 4: I said, if you don't trade, you're taking Joe all.

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Speaker 4: And I told him that like as soon as he

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Speaker 3: There you go, it's would you like obviously the you

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Speaker 3: two played each other in the Super Bowl well, that'll

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Speaker 3: be a game that's remembered in NFL history forever. And

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Speaker 3: I know that, like during that time you talked about it,

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Speaker 3: he talked about your parents talked about it like it

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Speaker 3: was great, It was awesome, but like it also was challenging.

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Speaker 3: I think, probably more so for your parents a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Would you want to play him like in the playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Like again, it's aid you go fifty to fifty man,

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Speaker 4: it said double edged sword, right, Because I want I

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Speaker 4: For number one, I don't want to not play in

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Speaker 2: That's number one.

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Speaker 4: I mean I want to be in the playoffs. That's

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Speaker 4: I want them to be successful.

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Speaker 2: For sure is my brother, and.

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Speaker 4: If we play him, I want to win. That's another

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Speaker 4: long shots thing. And I know he feels exactly the

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Speaker 4: if you know they're in the Super Bowl, which I'm

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Speaker 4: rooting for him to be in the Super Bowl, I

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Speaker 4: National Championship game, all in for them to win that game.

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Speaker 4: But in that championship game, if we're playing in the

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Speaker 2: To be just like the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: And it's hard. It's tough, it's it's it's hard to

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Speaker 4: lose that game. It's even hard to win that game

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Speaker 4: because you know, you got to you go shake hands.

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Speaker 4: I think there's some some clips are coming back out

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Speaker 2: That was a tough moment. It was a tough moment.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's not all joy when it's your brother

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So moving on on the schedule, obviously,

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Speaker 1: the game that got big time circled was the season

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean I was happy, and I

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Speaker 4: I think it's a it's a game to play, and

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Speaker 4: I watched the Thursday night game. It's you know, I

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Speaker 4: playing on Sunday, you're getting ready for your game. Now

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Speaker 4: we're gonna be playing in that game. I like the

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Speaker 4: idea of playing early.

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Speaker 2: You get to it.

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Speaker 4: We get to play the season three days earlier than

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Speaker 4: much respect for those guys, but but we just got

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Speaker 1: And you guys have been We've been so strong out

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Speaker 1: of the gates, right, I mean, I think that's a

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Speaker 1: credit to you and what you've established and your coaches

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Speaker 1: and the players and whatnot in that we come out

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Speaker 1: of the gates strong. And training camp is is tough,

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Speaker 1: it's challenging, it sharpens this team. What do you feel

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, I'd like to think that

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Speaker 2: But we just coach everybody every day as.

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Speaker 4: Everyone of these games is going to be is going

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Speaker 4: If they could, then they'd be gambling for a living.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's how it works. Everybody puts their fingerprint

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Speaker 4: next thing is always the next iteration of it, because

439
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Speaker 4: just you have to keep things moving. Things can't be

440
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Speaker 4: the same. You have to build a system in a

441
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Speaker 4: way that allows you to keep things moving, that allows

442
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Speaker 4: you to do it in a way that people can

443
00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,840
Speaker 4: understand it and it all fits, it makes sense, and

444
00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,280
Speaker 4: offenses don't know where you're going next. You know, you

445
00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,320
Speaker 4: have the chalklate last, so to speak, on the board,

446
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Speaker 4: but it's done during the game. In the play, you

447
00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,040
Speaker 4: want to create a situation where your players can have

448
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Speaker 4: the advantage, and so you got to keep moving to

449
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Speaker 4: do that. And I think that's kind of the sort

450
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Speaker 4: of the secret sauce. But the formulas is unique, you know,

451
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Speaker 4: and that's we'll see, Uh, we'll see how well people

452
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Speaker 4: pick it up around the league if they tried to.

453
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Speaker 3: So I also want to get your perspective on the

454
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Speaker 3: offense because as you talked about earlier this offseason, you know,

455
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Speaker 3: you kind of described the first year with Todd as

456
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Speaker 3: baby steps, kind of just scratching the surface of what

457
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Speaker 3: this offense is going to become. And you know, we

458
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Speaker 3: talked at the combine. You talked about how the day

459
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Speaker 3: after the season you were meeting with the offensive coaches

460
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Speaker 3: and you were going through things and you know, what worked,

461
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Speaker 3: what did and what can we change I mean, you

462
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Speaker 3: wasted no time on that front. So what do you

463
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Speaker 3: see as kind of this next evolution?

464
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's it's the next steps. I think

465
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Speaker 4: we started kicking this thing into gear a little bit,

466
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Speaker 4: you know, and we had a lot of success last

467
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Speaker 4: year doing it, but we also came up short. We

468
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Speaker 4: got exposed in certain ways as well, because we just

469
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Speaker 4: weren't there yet, you know, And don't you never really

470
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Speaker 4: know when.

471
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Speaker 2: You put something. You can't just say.

472
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Speaker 4: It's not like you walk in and you slap the

473
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Speaker 4: playbook down and boom, that's the playbook and everybody learn it.

474
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Speaker 2: Though those days are gone. Man, you can't do that anymore.

475
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Speaker 4: Plus the playbook is so thick because you have to

476
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Speaker 4: have all these answers, but you have to basically winno

477
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Speaker 4: into what you're gonna be and what directtions you're gonna go.

478
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Speaker 2: Even if you have, like say you've got the West.

479
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Speaker 4: Coast Bill Walsh type of offense, that's what you're gonna run,

480
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Speaker 4: systematic type thing, and and that's.

481
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Speaker 2: Really not what we're doing anyway.

482
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Speaker 4: So a lot of what we have to do is

483
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Speaker 4: you have to figure out what what do we need,

484
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Speaker 4: what direction do we go? What are our players capable

485
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Speaker 4: of doing what's our quarterback, what fits his brain the best,

486
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Speaker 4: and we works around with his real talents are because

487
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Speaker 4: Lamar is brilliant in so many ways, so that takes

488
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Speaker 4: time to learn as you go, and it took us

489
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Speaker 4: probably three months after the season, every single day, back

490
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Speaker 4: and forth and like like like even Todd told the guys,

491
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Speaker 4: this is hard work.

492
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Speaker 2: We had to. We had to.

493
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Speaker 4: We went through things, and you go down roads and

494
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Speaker 4: you put it on the board, You're like, then you're

495
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Speaker 4: racing us.

496
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Speaker 2: It's not gonna work. It's not gonna work.

497
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Speaker 4: And hopefully we've come into something that really is going

498
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Speaker 4: to work, that is structured in a way that our

499
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Speaker 4: guys can go out there and operate where they have

500
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Speaker 4: the chalk lasts on offense when it comes right down

501
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Speaker 4: to it in real time, and with that they can

502
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Speaker 4: execute at a really high level doing it. So that's

503
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Speaker 4: what we're shooting for a big picture wise, the way

504
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Speaker 4: it's built, I'm really excited about. And I think right

505
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Speaker 4: now it's just a matter, like Lamar said yesterday, it's

506
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Speaker 4: just a matter of getting the reps and building the

507
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Speaker 4: muscle memory and getting good at everything we're doing.

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Speaker 1: Right, you talk about Lamar and obviously we saw him

509
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Speaker 1: really kind of flourish as a passer more last season.

510
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Speaker 1: Are there any clues as to how this next iteration

511
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Speaker 1: of the offense will fit Lamar even in an even

512
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Speaker 1: better way and what we can expect this year?

513
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I made a clues. You know.

514
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Speaker 4: It's like it's going to be it's gonna be like

515
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Speaker 4: I think we're gonna be kicking into gear with Lamar

516
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Speaker 4: having control of the offense. You know, the driver of

517
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Speaker 4: the car. The car is gonna be able to do more.

518
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Speaker 4: It's gonna be faster, it's gonna have more options on it,

519
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Speaker 4: and he's going to be a better driver. He's gonna

520
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 4: know the car better, you know. And the car is

521
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Speaker 4: going to be built better than it was last year.

522
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Speaker 4: The guys, the parts of the car, they're all gonna

523
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Speaker 4: they're all gonna be tuned in better right than they

524
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Speaker 4: were last year, just because of not just it's not

525
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Speaker 4: just because we're another year into it. It's because we're

526
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Speaker 4: another year into it and we've been working on the

527
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Speaker 4: car to make it a better car than it was before.

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Speaker 3: Can Lamar get better? I mean he I mean he's

529
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Speaker 3: spent a two time MVP, Like you still think there's

530
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Speaker 3: more to his game?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, that doesn't tell the whole story.

532
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Speaker 4: And he'll be the first to tell you that it's

533
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Speaker 4: not about that. Oh, that is something that we're all

534
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 4: really proud of, you know, and obviously at San Francisco

535
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,879
Speaker 4: game had so much to do with that. You know,

536
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,639
Speaker 4: we had a great season. But there's so much more

537
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Speaker 4: that that. So many his growth mindset and his ability

538
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Speaker 4: to grow our growth mindset is an offense. That's that's

539
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Speaker 4: where we got to be tapping into. Man, we gotta

540
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 4: be leaning hard into that because you never we're not

541
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Speaker 4: gonna know until it's all said and done, what Lamar

542
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Speaker 4: Jackson can be as a quarterback.

543
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Speaker 2: And I'm I'm a man, I'm a believer, you know.

544
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Speaker 3: I'll stand on all that table since day one of.

545
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Speaker 4: Since day one, I'm a fan, and I just feel like, man,

546
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Speaker 4: I just want I want this to go.

547
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Speaker 2: I want this to be something that's never forgotten. I

548
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Speaker 2: really feel that way.

549
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Speaker 4: It really motivates me, all of us motivates some are

550
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Speaker 4: and uh, let's keep getting better.

551
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Speaker 1: One more question on the offense, the offensive line and

552
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Speaker 1: the rebuild. There has been obviously a big topic of

553
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Speaker 1: conversation this offseason. You know, how do you feel going

554
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Speaker 1: into OTAs and specifically, you know, you have a lot

555
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: of good young players there, you know, for He Salah obviously,

556
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Speaker 1: Roger Rosengarten now, Daniel Fololle Bank Cleveland, Josh Jones, Right,

557
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Speaker 1: you have a lot of good young players there. Do

558
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Speaker 1: you kind of want to give those guys those reps

559
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Speaker 1: and OTAs in this summer and say, hey, man, here's

560
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Speaker 1: your opportunity to go prove it, you know, and if

561
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Speaker 1: you prove it, well, you're the guy we'll stick with

562
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Speaker 1: you. You know, Like is that kind of how you're looking

563
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Speaker 1: at it this summer?

564
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, you know, the best team is a team

565
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Speaker 2: that plays the best.

566
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Speaker 4: The best player is the player that plays the best,

567
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Speaker 4: you know, and those guys are gonna they're gonna be

568
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Speaker 4: We're gonna be building the whole offensive line and coaching

569
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Speaker 4: every single guy, and then the guys that rise the

570
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 4: best and play the best are gonna be the guys

571
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Speaker 4: that play the most end up getting the starting positions,

572
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Speaker 4: which is exactly how it should be. Yeah, you know,

573
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Speaker 4: and then you got swing guys like Pat McCarey, uh,

574
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 4: still a part of the picture too. And I can't

575
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Speaker 4: wait to see Ronnie when he comes back and see

576
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Speaker 4: if you know, what kind of training he's done, if

577
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Speaker 4: he's ready to roll. And then we got Falley over

578
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 4: there and got Rosengarten added, so it's I'm sure I'm missing.

579
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Speaker 2: We've got some of these young guys that look good. Yeah,

580
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Speaker 2: so it's going to be interesting.

581
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Speaker 3: So another reason we wanted to have you on the

582
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Speaker 3: podcast and to kick off the fancy news studio here

583
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Speaker 3: is that you've got an exciting new venture too, which

584
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: is the Harball Coaching Academy, which we're excited to talk

585
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: with you about. This is a new venture. It's really

586
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Speaker 3: a resource for coaches, for parents, for kids, for football fans.

587
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Speaker 3: Can you can you give us some give us the

588
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Speaker 3: kind of the elevator pitch and the story behind the

589
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Speaker 3: Harbball Coaching Academy.

590
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Speaker 4: Man, I wish you had an elevator pitch. I couldn't

591
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Speaker 4: be a very good salesman for Steve. But really what

592
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Speaker 4: it is, it's like it's just really nothing out there.

593
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Speaker 4: We didn't think like this, and it's kind of because

594
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Speaker 4: of our dad. I mean, we got we've been just

595
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Speaker 4: privileged to grow up with a coaching dad and being

596
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Speaker 4: around coaches and being around sports our whole life, and.

597
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Speaker 2: It's really just cool, you know.

598
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Speaker 4: And our dad was just so good, such a great coach,

599
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Speaker 4: and I feel like, well some of that rubbed off

600
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Speaker 4: on us, you know, and Jim and I have kind

601
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Speaker 4: of learned from that, and then you want to maybe

602
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Speaker 4: kind of share that because people call you and ask

603
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,239
Speaker 4: you stuff and it's like okay. And then you know,

604
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 4: with Allison and watching Jim's kids come up through and

605
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: Joni's kids come up through over the years, with Tom

606
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 4: Crane watching them Coupy Go, you go. You know, coaches

607
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 4: are so important. They matter so much in someone's life.

608
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Speaker 4: We're sitting here having this conversation and we all played

609
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Speaker 4: sports literal league, junior high, high school, whatever level we

610
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Speaker 4: played at, and we remember those moments that were really

611
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Speaker 4: uplifting for us and those moments that really were debilitating

612
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Speaker 4: for us because of the way a coach treated us,

613
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Speaker 4: talk to us, responded to us, uplifted us, or we

614
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Speaker 4: tour us down, or whatever it might be, and you

615
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Speaker 4: never forget those things the rest of your life. Billy

616
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Speaker 4: Graham said, a coach will have an impact on more

617
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Speaker 4: people in one year than the average person will over

618
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Speaker 4: the course of their lifetime.

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Speaker 2: I know that's true. And it's true for teachers.

620
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Speaker 4: Too as well. It's true for it's true for administrator,

621
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Speaker 4: it's's true for bosses. All these kind of things when

622
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Speaker 4: when you're influencing you around people.

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Speaker 2: But man, we got to do a better.

624
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Speaker 4: So I saw it with Alice. I saw the good ones.

625
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Speaker 4: I saw the ones at work. I saw the good days,

626
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Speaker 4: the bad ones. I'm like, can we help? Can we

627
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 4: lean in delies? Coaches talk to these coaches, have conversations

628
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Speaker 4: with these coaches, teachers, military people, business leaders, media people,

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Speaker 4: you know, and ask them questions and see if we

630
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Speaker 4: put this in a format where people can pull right

631
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Speaker 4: up and go down and say a Andy Reid on

632
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Speaker 4: coaching the nine year old women's softball team. Maybe, but

633
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: whatever we you know, what does Andy Reid say about that?

634
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Speaker 4: You know, that's pretty cool, And I really think that

635
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Speaker 4: people are going to join. It's freed and cost anybody

636
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Speaker 4: anything to do. We're not trying to make any money.

637
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Speaker 4: It's it's an opportunity for coaches and people leaders, whatever

638
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 4: you want to call them, to pay it forward a

639
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 4: little bit and hopefully have some fun with it and

640
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Speaker 4: we'll see where it goes from there. So that's a

641
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Speaker 4: long elevator.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it really is cool. I mean I've watched

643
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Speaker 1: almost all the interviews by this point, and I'm just

644
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Speaker 1: telling viewers out there, like, check it out. I mean,

645
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: it is really inspiring, cool stuff. And one thing that

646
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Speaker 1: stuck out stuck out to me was that it's really

647
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Speaker 1: about building people. Like that's what so many of the

648
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Speaker 1: conversations are about, from the youth level to high school college,

649
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Speaker 1: even the right it's about building up people. And there's

650
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Speaker 1: some x's and O stuff in there too, but like,

651
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Speaker 1: do you see that as kind of the core of

652
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: coaching is just leading people?

653
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Speaker 2: That is exactly what it is to me. And it's

654
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: uplifting people.

655
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Speaker 4: That is the core of it. You pig Mailian, Okay,

656
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: look that one up. Okay, And I don't even know

657
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Speaker 4: if I'm sure if I know what it means, But

658
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Speaker 4: what I think it means is that basically, you uplift people,

659
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 4: you speak into what they can become. You you you

660
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 4: show them something maybe they don't see for themselves. You know,

661
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: like my junior high seventh grade football coach who was

662
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 4: also the gym teacher and we were in swimming class

663
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Speaker 4: and he was teaching us the breaststroke. I didn't know

664
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Speaker 4: the breaststroke, but I picked it up really quick for

665
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 4: some reason, you know, and I just see I remember,

666
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 4: so I can remember to this day's stand up during

667
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 4: looking at me and going.

668
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Speaker 2: Wow, you are a great athlete. You can really you

669
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Speaker 2: learn really quickly. That stuck with me. Yeah, in seventh grade,

670
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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, my coach thinks, I'm like, I have it.

671
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: I have I'm special in some way.

672
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Speaker 1: You know.

673
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Speaker 4: That's a gift that we can all give one another

674
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Speaker 4: every single day. And I think if anything, if there's

675
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Speaker 4: any any theme that runs through this whole website, like

676
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 4: you're saying, it's.

677
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Speaker 3: That it's awesome. I know that it's obviously not geared

678
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: just towards football. Football is kind of the foundation of

679
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: the backbone of it for obvious reasons. But something that

680
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: has struck me, that you've talked about this many times

681
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Speaker 3: over the years is the importance of football and why

682
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: it matters. And you wrote the piece of years ago

683
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Speaker 3: about why football matters, and I remember, you know, talking

684
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Speaker 3: to you about that at the time, and you've always

685
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Speaker 3: just been an advocate for the game, for the game

686
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Speaker 3: of football.

687
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: Why is it.

688
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Speaker 3: Something that you feel like is so important to take

689
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Speaker 3: on that charge and to be kind of that advocate.

690
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Speaker 4: Right, Well, I mean I redid it, so it's going

691
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Speaker 4: to come out pretty soon, you d versity.

692
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Speaker 2: I got an updated version coming out, you know.

693
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Speaker 1: Cut you out. Yeah, that was a wise decision.

694
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: Time everything evolves, you know.

695
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Speaker 4: So there's a new version coming out soon on the

696
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: Hardball Coaching Academy dot com. And but to me, it's like, well,

697
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 4: it's because we are I'm a football coach and we're

698
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: football so that's where it starts. But it doesn't end

699
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: there by any stretch. And the website itself is going

700
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Speaker 4: to reflect that too, even more as time goes on.

701
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, we got some good little football stuff

702
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 4: in there, and we're gonna eventually have basketball stuff in there.

703
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 4: I know, we're gonna lacrosse stuff in there, whatever, whatever

704
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 4: coaches want to get involved, you know, and where the

705
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 4: thing is gonna go. We have over four hundred and

706
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 4: fifty segments now from interviews that have been taken over

707
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: the last three years. So it's built, but we're gonna.

708
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Speaker 2: Add to it.

709
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Speaker 4: Well eventually it's gonna be thousands, it's gonna be thousands

710
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: of interviews, and there's gonna be many sports, and it's

711
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 4: gonna grow into I'm sure it's gonna grow into clinics,

712
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 4: I gotta think, and I think it's gonna grow into

713
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 4: possibly Gym's ideas he wants to do a combine and

714
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 4: then a combine for different sports that underprivileged you know,

715
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 4: kids can be exposed to colleges so they can they

716
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 4: can see who they are and maybe get to know them. So,

717
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: hey man, the possibilities are endless.

718
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that's also really cool is there's

720
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Speaker 1: a lot of just outside of the interviews, there's just

721
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: raw footage inside your meeting rooms. See really, fans get

722
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: to see what it looks like inside a Raven's meeting room.

723
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Speaker 1: And one thing that really stands out to me is

724
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: just you know, you one getting one percent better is

725
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: a phrase that you use often and you really live that,

726
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: Like that's not just a catchphrase for you, it's that's

727
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: life and you are always kind of looking for the

728
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: next way to get better. And how do I pass

729
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: that on to my my players? Where does that come from?

730
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Speaker 1: I mean, how does that kind of push that desire

731
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 1: to always be looking for the next thing like that

732
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: that could die out so easily. It's hard to keep

733
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: that level, you know, Like how do you keep that going?

734
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Speaker 4: That's a great question, Ryan, I wish I could answer

735
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 4: it for you. To me, it's like not hard for me,

736
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 4: Like for whatever reason, it's just like that's just that's

737
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: just easy for me, because it's just maybe it's just

738
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 4: because I'm afraid if I don't do that, then I'm

739
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Speaker 4: going to fail.

740
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Speaker 2: Maybe's because I wasn't a.

741
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Speaker 4: Great player, you know, if I didn't if I didn't

742
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 4: do my best, I was going to get embarrassed out there.

743
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 4: You know, So maybe that's what it is. Maybe it's fear,

744
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: but I do believe. You know, we talked to the

745
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: guys recently. You know, you got to get a hundred

746
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 4: you got to give a hundred percent to become one

747
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 4: percent better. But if you get one percent better every day,

748
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 4: it takes one hundred days. But there's also compound on interest,

749
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 4: so it can't even be less than hundred days.

750
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Speaker 2: You know.

751
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: The guys remind me of that, especially the guys that

752
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 4: have the bigger contracts.

753
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: But if you really, if you really could do that.

754
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 2: You know, that's a growth mindset, you know.

755
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: And then we joked recently it's like, okay, one hundred percent,

756
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: like give it a hundred percent. It's like if you

757
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: gave one hundred percent, like are you do your best?

758
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna give it my all.

759
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 4: It's like we say that, it's almost like a kapa, like,

760
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: well you did your best, right, Well then it's okay.

761
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: It's like and people and people, well, it's not there's

762
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: not enough to try or you got to actually get

763
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Speaker 2: the job done. It's like, oh my god, I got

764
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: always says going through my mind. I'm not really talking

765
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Speaker 2: about here. It's like one hundred percent.

766
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Speaker 4: If you gave a hundred percent, what would the out

767
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 4: if you gave one hundred percent of every ounce of

768
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 4: energy that you had, everything that you had, every fiver

769
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: of your body, what would happen?

770
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Speaker 2: Physically? You probably died. You'd be dead, right because.

771
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: You gave a hundred percent, It's all gone boom, gone dead.

772
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 4: So it's the time impossible, right if we're really thinking

773
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 4: about it, so we use these catchphrases. It really it

774
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: boils back to it's like are you really giving it everything?

775
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: You got Are you locked in? Are you coke focused?

776
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 4: Are you all there today? Are you actually doing your best?

777
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 4: Are you are you running to the ball as har

778
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 4: as you can?

779
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: Is your technique? Are you lot? Are you focused? Are

780
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: you thinking? Is your mindset right going out to practice?

781
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: You know?

782
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 4: Just really are you doing your best? And if you are,

783
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: then you can live with You can live a pe

784
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 4: you have peace in your heart about what you're doing,

785
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: you know? And that that to me is like when

786
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: we try to get across to our guys. We talk

787
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Speaker 4: kind of we talk about these things with our guys,

788
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 4: you know, and uh.

789
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Speaker 2: Most of the time I think they listen.

790
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Speaker 3: It seems to be rubbing off. See you you sat

791
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: down with a bunch of people for for hc A.

792
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Speaker 3: Sean McVay, Dick for Meal, Mike Vrabel, and a bunch

793
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Speaker 3: of all theirs. Those are just some of the names,

794
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Speaker 3: Tony dongee when you went through those, were you nervous

795
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: for any of the interviews for any of those as

796
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Speaker 3: you were? Were our hat for a day?

797
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?

798
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

799
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Speaker 4: Ah man, you know Dick for Meal, Yeah, yeah, you know,

800
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: legendary guy.

801
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Speaker 2: I wasn't really so nervous. I really, you know what

802
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: I was really was.

803
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: I was excited because from me, it was it was

804
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 4: also it was an excuse to get better. I mean

805
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 4: for me, it's like it's hard to call somebody up

806
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 4: and say, hey, can I talk to you for Sometimes

807
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 4: I talked to you guys for like an hour and

808
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: a half, sometimes two hours. Can I talk to you

809
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: for two hours of your day and ask you a

810
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 4: bunch of questions about coaching? You know, it's like, are

811
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 4: you kidding me? But you do it like in this

812
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: format like it was. It was a little selfish too,

813
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 4: because now I'm I'm taking notes.

814
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: It goes back to that one better thing.

815
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: It's right, right, you know.

816
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 4: It was definitely professional growth, you know. So uh and

817
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: then now you know, people get to see it because

818
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: of the job and you you know, you guys did

819
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: a great job, and you guys shared this with us

820
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 4: and did editing and put these things together, and it's

821
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 4: good for people to know that it was really a

822
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 4: team effort, you know, and so many people are volunteering

823
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: their time and their efforts to to just give back

824
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 4: that that makes me feel really great.

825
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: About Yeah, it's and it goes beyond the website. I mean,

826
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: you were also hosting a coaches coaching clinic here on

827
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: our Performance center with college coaches from around the country.

828
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is a major undertaking. The

829
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: website is like a major undertaking. You know, why is

830
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: it so important for you to pass that baton forward

831
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: in coaching and and kind of help the next generation

832
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: of coaches behind you.

833
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: That's a good question. It's been an evolution for me.

834
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Speaker 4: Like like probably it's when you get older, you know,

835
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 4: and I see my dad's now my dad, mom are

836
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 4: going to be eighty five this summer, and I see,

837
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 4: you know, it's like they've got quite a few years left,

838
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: you know, and they're doing great, but it's time. You know,

839
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: it's time, and so they can see it. And also

840
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: like you know this stage of a career and everything.

841
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: But like the clinic is it. It's some day we'll

842
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 4: do a big clinic, I'm sure, but right now it's

843
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 4: just invite only. Yeah, you know, people that we kind

844
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: of got our scouts look at and say, you know what,

845
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: be a good young coach or older coach or head

846
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: coaches are coming. Hey, Bill Belichick's going to be there, right,

847
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: you know, Coach Bilichick is going to be there, and

848
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 4: he'll be at a roundtable conversation. These are the kind

849
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: of things that are just good for football coaching, good

850
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: for coaching, good for teaching, you know, good for hey, life,

851
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: life lessons, whatever, if anybody gets anything out of it,

852
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: like we'll put some of this stuff out from the clinic,

853
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: you know, come through the website, right and.

854
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: So we get a chance to share it with everybody.

855
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: Very cool.

856
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: Cool to have Coach Belichick being part of it.

857
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: Very cool, very cool.

858
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: I'm I'm really honored and thrill and just another opportunity

859
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: to pick his brain. I'm afraid, you know, he might

860
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 4: try to pick our brain, but there might not be

861
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: anything in there to find.

862
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: All right, Well, before we let you go. So this

863
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: idea came from my uncle and cousin. You're having lounge listeners,

864
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: and you know they've they've busted my chops for years

865
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: because you've on occasion give me a hard time about

866
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: my haircut during he's looking at it right now, I

867
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: see those eyes.

868
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Speaker 2: It looks pretty good right now. It's a little more.

869
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Speaker 1: I told the bar was a little short. He went

870
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Speaker 1: a little short. What do you say, like after the

871
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: cut's done.

872
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: It's done. It's too short.

873
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: He's just like sorry, still left of a tip though

874
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: I thought he'd.

875
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: Be too short.

876
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 4: I mean, just give you just why why is too

877
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 4: short a problem? It's less must less fussy.

878
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: He gets bushy. All of it gets bushy at the

879
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: same time. I like a little longer on top of short.

880
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: That's the one.

881
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 4: That's the one that you get to drives me created.

882
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: You're like shaved on the side. You get this big

883
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 4: fly thing going over the top, and I'm like that

884
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: just I don't think it's Here's why, because I don't

885
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: think it doesn't have any legs.

886
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: It's like a.

887
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: Song that's good, like just gets a pop song for

888
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks and nobody, nobody listened to it.

889
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: It's true. And I'm too cheap to like pay for

890
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: another haircut a few weeks later, like when I should.

891
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: To keep it.

892
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right. So so in that mindset,

893
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: in that that vein, we're doing a little this or

894
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: that here, like who were it better?

895
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: Let me get okay, you gotta make sure you see

896
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 3: this in all its glory, right, who were it better?

897
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: We have this one. I'll show the camera also that

898
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: haircut for me? Yeah, okay, any any thoughts on that one.

899
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: That's the one you're talking about, right, Yeah, that's what

900
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: I'm talking about.

901
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 4: This this is a grown in one like this was

902
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 4: not a fresh one.

903
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 2: Neck hair growing down here, it's coming.

904
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: Over your ear there in the front. This is this

905
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 4: is after two week. This is where it's it's lost

906
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 4: its luster. But you know, I appreciate the face, like a.

907
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Serious face, the question face. Look how good that is?

908
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: Like you are locked in right, locked in?

909
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: Me and James are having a good chat there.

910
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: That's right, James sirs just retired.

911
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: That's right. Yes, congratulations him. So we have that one.

912
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: And then who were it better? Me or Charlie Cole?

913
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you know, I just there's a lot

914
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: going on in Charlie's head and on top of his head, right.

915
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: I just really don't know where.

916
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 4: I just I decided what I saw as I decided

917
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 4: to stay away. I didn't comment on I'm not going

918
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: near it. I I just didn't think it was a

919
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: It was a very dangerous place to go.

920
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: To that haircut.

921
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: Win.

922
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like yours better. That's what you're looking for.

923
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 3: You had to set you had to go with a

924
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: super low threshold Charlie's haircut and then you're like, hey,

925
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: I gotta be better than that. Smart play on your part.

926
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. This is really a fun coverly.

927
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: Thanks appreciate it.

928
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: Thank you always great Well, big thanks to Coach Harball

929
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 3: for stopping by the new Seakeeeks STDIO. Really enjoy the

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941
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Speaker 1: So it was just.

942
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: Enjoy the conversation with him. It was it was it

943
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 3: was cool to see him kind of open up about

944
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: just the process this offseason. Of course, the hardball coaching Academy.

945
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: Obviously there's a lot going on. I just really enjoyed

946
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: the conversation with coach.

947
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, I mean a friend of

948
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: the lounge. You had a coach on the lounge too often.

949
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a while. Last time we did it

950
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: was him and his dad actually going back, you know.

951
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 3: I mean that kind of plays into the Hardball Coaching

952
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: Academy and that legacy piece. But you know, that was

953
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: going back a few years.

954
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: So it's gonna have to be.

955
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to make this like our Eric interview

956
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: after the draft.

957
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 3: Yeah.

958
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, schedule appointment. We'll get on the calendar for twenty

959
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: twenty five. Yeah, yess so good. I mean he's just

960
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: really insightful, really insightful stuff. So thanks to Coach Harball

961
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: for doing that. Most importantly, I liked how he kind

962
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: of ragged on you for big time of me and

963
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: moving out of the office. That was one of my

964
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: favorite parts. The hair thing obviously a favorite part. Yeah,

965
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: I like to move in here. This might have to

966
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: become my new office.

967
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: I did like the full breakdown of your hair. I

968
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: mean he had like the full he was like, you know,

969
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: he had the history of it. He knew that in

970
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: the picture that you showed. He was like, well, this

971
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: is three weeks out from the cut. This isn't a

972
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: fresh cut like he had the full breakdown, and uh,

973
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 3: there's been some great press conference moments with your haircut

974
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: over the years since never never, pretty great, fails to disappoint.

975
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: Pretty great, pretty great. Well, there's a lot going on.

976
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: We are in the midst of OTA's right now. We

977
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: will have media availability on Wednesday with the players and

978
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: probably coach Hardball as well, so you're gonna want to

979
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: stay tuned for that. Make sure you're subscribed to Raven's

980
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: Press past and more so, we'll have our OTA takeaways

981
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: for the first time the players step on the field

982
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: for those practices, so you'll want to be make sure

983
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: you're subscribed here. Yeah, listen follow uh get ready for

984
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: that one. So very exciting stuff here at the NURM

985
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Speaker 1: Performance Center, and we'll be back with you soon