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It's not getting the middle with you. 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: It's time for stuck in the middle the midway. 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: Okay, there, Jason, what's the topic of the midway from here? 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: I sent out two topics to the group text and 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: I got one response, So I think we need to 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 4: do a production meeting on the year. I gave two options. 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: A third was not presented. So here are the two options. 35 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 4: What is your fix for the college football playoff fix? 36 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 5: What's your fix? 37 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 4: You know, we can have an interesting conversation about each 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: other's fixes. I think R J. Young he presented a 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: fix thirty minutes ago that Doug utterly shot down and 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 4: demoralized and it wasn't even fair. 41 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: They're just not going to play seventeen games. 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, the listeners heard it, they saw they saw the 43 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: massacre on the air, and then Marcus Freeman getting interest 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 4: from the NFL and it it kind of struck a 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: personal cored with me. And I want to say, in life, 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 4: do you stay at a great job that you are 47 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: loved at and you're good at for a bigger challenge 48 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: more stress but more money? 49 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's more stress. Again, I don't 50 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: know what what Marcus Freeman's job is like. But again 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's more stress. But again both 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: are topics. Dan, do you have a lean Well? 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 5: I did on the group text. Did I did tell you? 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 5: It just tells me you didn't read my response, Doug, 55 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 5: I said, job, I have ideas on the college football playoff, 56 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 5: but I would rather talk about. 57 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: The Jay Stews. 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 5: I kind of like the job. You know, everyone could 59 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 5: relate to that. 60 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, buyer, why don't you go first? 61 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 5: So I think that there's a lot of and it's 62 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 5: not just Marcus Freeman, just even reading within the last hour. 63 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: Jim Knowles, Remember Jim Knowles was the hottest name in 64 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 5: college football for a couple of years for what he 65 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 5: did at Oklahoma State. Is their defensive coordinator, Then Ohio 66 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 5: State lures him away for millions. Penn State then lures 67 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 5: him away last off season for probably a million more, 68 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: and now he's likely on his way to Tennessee as 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 5: James Franklin's no longer a happy Valley and Matt Campbell's 70 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 5: bringing in his own crew. So when you chase the money, 71 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 5: I think that that is a situation that can show you, 72 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 5: all right, maybe the grass isn't always greener now matter 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 5: Ohio State. He ended up winning a national championship, right 74 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 5: for the two million dollars a year that they paid 75 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 5: him to get him to leave Oklahoma State. But then 76 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: maybe leaving Ohio State wasn't the greatest thing for him 77 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 5: to go for a million dollars more. I think it's 78 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 5: the grass. The grass being greener on the other side, 79 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 5: cannot be about money. It has to be about accomplishment. 80 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 5: So if Marcus Freeman's goal is to become a Super 81 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 5: Bowl winning head coach, then I think you should go 82 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 5: to the National Football League and take those offers to 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 5: do that. But if you're just chasing the dollar, I 84 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 5: don't think that you're ever going to be happy. 85 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: Look, he has six kids, is that right? It's a 86 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: lot to gaggle. It's more than a couple, definitely more 87 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: than a few. I think it's six. Could be wrong. 88 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: Dan is a fiver or is six? I don't know, 89 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: actually I don't at seven seven children, all right, that's 90 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: a recruiting class. So and he does a great job 91 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: of crediting his wife with like, hey, I'm barely home. 92 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: You know, she does an amazing job. I just with 93 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: the realities of these jobs. I know we're sitting there 94 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: going like it doesn't really matter. I'm gonna tell you, 95 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: I think it does, especially a guy who has seven 96 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: kids and it matters that much to him. My guess 97 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: is he ain't leaving for the pros. Now. The good 98 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: thing about the pros is your off season is actually 99 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: your off season college. You don't recruit off campus nearly 100 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: as much as you used to. You're recruiting out of 101 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 2: the portal. It can be a fairly in person a 102 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: high school recruiting is still big at Notre Dame, but 103 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: they do recruit out of the portal a good amount 104 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: as well. I just think in terms of family and community, 105 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: you stay or in the college environment. Now, my only 106 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: question is this is actually really Dan he played Ohio State. 107 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: Is his dream job Ohio State? And if his dream 108 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: job is Ohio State, he just you got I guess 109 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: wait it out, or you go to the pros and 110 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: then you can always come back when Ohio State comes 111 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: open and you've cashed in a bunch of money. The 112 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: problem is, again, you've got seven kids. I'm guessing five 113 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: or six of them are school age. I don't know 114 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: the spread of all the number of kids taking them out, 115 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: moved them to like New York, the Giants or something like. 116 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: I just it's a hard life and I don't see it. 117 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 5: I'll say this like when you talk about the Ohio 118 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 5: State job, like, honestly, there's a bunch of guys that 119 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 5: their dream job is Ohio State. Like Alex Golis, you 120 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 5: just went from South Florida to Auburn. Probably dream job 121 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 5: go up back to Ohio State. Ryan Hartline, who just 122 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 5: left this you know he's going to stay on through 123 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 5: the playoff as the coordinator, but he's going to go 124 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 5: to South Florida. Why did he take the South Florida job? So? 125 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: Is it the only way to get the Hog States? 126 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 5: Yes, that's at least what a lot of people feel. 127 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 5: So like in those instances like what is the best 128 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 5: way to do it? And somebody's going to be left out? Now, 129 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 5: if Ryan Day were to leave tomorrow, Marcus Freeman being 130 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 5: a candidate at the top, you know, would he definitely 131 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 5: topped the list of anybody out there of taking that job. 132 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 5: But you know what would would that be the would 133 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 5: that even be the timing of the move? 134 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: I'm telling you who's going to come after him in 135 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: a year? 136 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 5: Who's that? 137 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: Michigan? 138 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? Maybe? Yeah? The Charon More era. Yeah, has not 139 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 5: come to fruition despite signing. He just had a really 140 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 5: good recruiting class. Michigan will see how that pans out. 141 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 6: He has improved year over year on his record, Right, 142 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 6: it's two. 143 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: Years he started a freshman quarterback. They're gonna have ups 144 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: and downs. I mean, you gotta get yeah, you got 145 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: to get better. 146 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 6: By five and now he's nine and three. 147 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I actually yeah, I like, from the outside 148 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 5: looking in and not knowing all of the ins and 149 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 5: outs there, I've actually felt that he's done an alright job. 150 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 5: But there is this and maybe it's social media blowing 151 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 5: it out of proportion, but there's a bit of this 152 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 5: undercurrent that isn't happy with what he's done. Sure, I 153 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 5: mean I don't know if he should have gotten the 154 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 5: job for all the other stuff that he was implicated in, 155 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 5: but that's neither here nor there. But yeah, if they 156 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 5: have a they have an eight and three season and 157 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 5: lose to Ohio State again, yeah, I think that. You know, 158 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 5: it's going to be a name that's put out there. 159 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 5: But would you leave Notre Dame for Michigan? I The 160 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 5: Dame job to me is I mean top of the top. 161 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: So so so for you guys to understand, Okay, Notre 162 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: Dame for a long time didn't pay, didn't pay, didn't 163 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 2: take transfers, and it was hard to get into. Okay, 164 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: that was that was a limited Notre Dame. Didn't pay, 165 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: hard to get into, didn't take transfers, take transfers. Now 166 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: I think they pay a lot of money. They have 167 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: a ton of money, and they're more reasonable. Again, it's 168 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 2: not a junior college, not a lot of everybody in, 169 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: but more reasonable about getting kids into school. If you 170 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: do that at Notre Dame, why would you ever leave? 171 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 5: Why would why would you leave? 172 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: Would? I would never leave? It is an unbelievable job. 173 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: It is. I think again. If those three things are true, it's, 174 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: in any conversation, the best job in the country because 175 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 2: it's synonymous with college football. You can get into any 176 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: household for recruiting. You're a draw national TV. You're making 177 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: a lot of money. It does cost nothing to live there. 178 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: You know, you can, you know, you can go to Michigan. 179 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: You know, drive up to Michigan on the coast and 180 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: have a have a home there in the summer and 181 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: be on the water, play golf whatever. Like you're an 182 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,599 Speaker 2: hour and a half from Chicago. You got alums everywhere, 183 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 2: Notre Dame alums. Let me tell you what it's like 184 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: to play a Notre Dame in basketball. And we weren't 185 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: any good everywhere we played, and we played all over 186 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: the country. After the game, there'd be a Notre Dame 187 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 2: club of Baltimore, of Miami, of Los Angeles, of wherever, 188 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: and you know, you'd have you'd meet and kind of 189 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: kidd it's a while or whatever. Now those guys are 190 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: all influential in terms of nil Again, Notre Dame is 191 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 2: not a job. I'm leaving an NFL job. NFL job 192 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: is just a job, just a job. 193 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 6: You know, you're not going to see your seven children. 194 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: It's all stressful. Okah, none of it's not stressed, but. 195 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 7: Like the sleeping in the office thing that they claim 196 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 7: to do, you know, and I'm sure they do, but 197 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 7: like in the NFL, it's like even more. 198 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 6: Time put into game planning. 199 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 5: And I've heard people say though that the NFL, at least, 200 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 5: it's just about football. 201 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 6: Yeah that's true. Yeah, it's true. 202 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: And honestly college college where I just had a conversation 203 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 2: to the break about a class with one of my players, 204 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: but for the most part at the highest level, kind 205 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: is just about football there too. But now here's the 206 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: downside to college sports. Now, how it's do you got 207 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: to deal with agents, which you have to deal with 208 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: in the NFL, but more so, and if you're not 209 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: dealing always with the same level or quality of agent. 210 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: And until you get multi year contracts with guys, you 211 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: can have free agency every year, and that's really hard. 212 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: That's the one thing that will push guys to the 213 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: pros from college because dude, do I have to recruit 214 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: a whole news team every year? That's really really hard. 215 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 2: I have ten new players. It is not easy, not easy. 216 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: Like and I touch you guys this like, Nope, thought 217 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: that last year. 218 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 5: I would also say this that if we're talking about 219 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman, that the Notre Dame job is probably better 220 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 5: than two thirds of the NFL jobs, Like of just 221 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 5: of we're looking at it like in a way like 222 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 5: the NFL is a step up because it's professional football, 223 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 5: it's ads, it's high level. I don't think that's ultimately. 224 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 5: I think some guys are made to coach pro football, 225 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 5: some guys are made to coach college football, and others 226 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 5: can go back and forth between both. But if you 227 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 5: took two thirds of the openings in the NFL and said, hey, 228 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman, you want to come here, considering like would 229 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman leave for the Raiders? That would that would 230 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 5: be absurd. Why would you ever go to that ownership 231 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 5: group right, never of your family to Vegas? Like that 232 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 5: doesn't and so then you can lose the job in 233 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 5: three or four years like that. So so like even 234 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 5: Notre Dame, when we're talking about the value of Notre Dame, 235 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 5: they're half, the NFL is eliminated in my mind, Yeah, 236 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 5: I agree with that. 237 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like you're not you're not taking falcons, you're 238 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: not taking Taguar. 239 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 6: The Jets are taking jets. Like, that's not taking raiders. 240 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: It's not Listen, you keep saying stress. 241 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 7: No, I mean, but like like just the the monumental pressure, 242 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 7: just like it's. 243 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 6: Just the talks, the toxic environment there. 244 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: Sam to him, how many SEC coaches were fired this year? 245 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 5: A whole lot. 246 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 7: I'm talking about the New York media though, I'm just 247 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 7: talking about the pressure them, you know, under the mic. 248 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: Again, let me just explain it. He's the head coach 249 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 2: at Notre Dame. Everything is micro managed. Okay, everything is 250 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: micro managed. There's an incredible level of stress and anxiety. Heck, 251 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: they lost two games by four points and won the 252 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: rest of their games and they're not in the college. 253 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 6: No, no, I know I'm talking. I'm just speaking about 254 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 6: and you you. 255 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: Have James Franklinkay, James Franklin's won a Rose Bowl. James 256 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: Franklin's done everything for Penn State. Three games in the 257 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: season he was fired. He didn't have the choice, he 258 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: had to move his family. 259 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 260 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: Go. Look Mike Gundy won of twenty one years, eighteen 261 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: of them. He won won more games there than anybody's 262 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: ever won. Three games in gone. Now his Alma Matter. 263 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: He's no longer the coach there. It's super weird. So 264 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: my point is that if you think that the NFL 265 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: is more stressful than college football, no, I got news 266 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: for it. 267 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 7: The culture surrounding the Jets, like a job like that 268 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 7: is just there's it's so negative, like a place like 269 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 7: Notre Dame. 270 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 5: You can't win is kind of what you're saying. Unless 271 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 5: I win big, you can't win Notre Dame. It's going 272 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 5: to be a pressure cooker. 273 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 7: But it's also there's gonna be a lot of positivity 274 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 7: behind you, and those fans are gonna be in the 275 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 7: stands every weekend. 276 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but college I agree with that second you have now, 277 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: South Bend's not a college town. The campus Notre Dame 278 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: is beautiful, it's not South Bend. There are some brilliant 279 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: Mishawaka is really nice area. But I do generally agree 280 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: with you it's not truly a college town. 281 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 5: What was a smaller town then small town vibes not 282 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 5: small interject here, But I think that we have two 283 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 5: people in on this conversation that have had prominent jobs before, 284 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 5: not that they aren't now, but Jason was such a 285 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 5: key part of Jim Rome and Doug. You are such 286 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 5: a big part of ESPN. You've talked about the moving 287 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 5: of those jobs and move to different spots. I mean, 288 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 5: I think that that's sort of even just on the 289 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 5: on in this business or any other business, there's the 290 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 5: grass maybe isn't always greener. 291 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: That's a great point. Don't don't mess with happy. I 292 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: just say, don't mess with happy. If you're not happy, well, okay, 293 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: there's no amount of money that's going to make you happier. 294 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: But if you're happy and you like who you work for, 295 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: you like who you work with, and you like where 296 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: your family is, just don't don't move. 297 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 6: Just ask Kirk Farence. 298 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 299 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 300 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 301 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,239 Speaker 3: listen live. 302 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: Stug Out Leave show here on Fox Sports Radio. 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He also goes the Inside the 310 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: Birds podcast, What's wrong with Jalen Hurts? 311 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 8: Huh, it's funny. 312 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 5: I do. 313 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 8: I do radio in like ten markets each week or 314 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 8: something like eight to ten, but this is the one. 315 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 8: What's funny you say this because he actually threw the 316 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 8: ball really well. Can't turn the ball over if you Doug, 317 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 8: if you I just like the hurts his throws, right, 318 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 8: if you just go through every throw, you go well, 319 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 8: he meets some great throws. He had two that were 320 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 8: not on him. A two turnovers were clearly on him. 321 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 8: Then the craziness of setting a record of two turnovers 322 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 8: on one play from the quarterback. So his actually was 323 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 8: not much wrong with him. He had a couple of 324 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 8: balls sale on him. There's some timing stuff. He actually 325 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 8: did not play badly. Like it's funny. I I'm checking 326 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 8: in a lot of players this week, and a lot 327 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 8: of situations around the league. I don't think the Eagles 328 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 8: are terribly upset. They're pissed it they lost the game, 329 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 8: but I don't it's not what the fans thought. I 330 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 8: understand the reaction because when you turn on the bill 331 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 8: over five times, everybody points to the quarterback. That's understandable. 332 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 8: You played point guard, you know, Doug. It's all on 333 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 8: the guy who's distributing the football. Hurts as a ball 334 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 8: distributor as a quarterback, and he can't turn them brawlover. 335 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 8: But there was really nothing. What was wrong with him 336 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 8: was really the Bears game. He was awful in that game. 337 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 8: This game, he was really not. But again, that keeps 338 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 8: scoring under twenty points. And that is the part that's 339 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 8: on the quarterback. 340 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, uh. What does the rest of their season 341 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 2: look like to you? 342 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 8: Philly? I would say that it would be hard for 343 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 8: them not to win the division. They're game in half 344 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 8: up no one, Doug. It's one of the most ridiculous 345 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 8: records in sports. No one's won the NFC. He's back 346 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 8: to back in twenty one years. But Philly should have it. 347 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 8: They have a little bit of an easier schedule over Dallas. 348 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 8: Duallas of course has the odd tie. But you know, 349 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 8: it's a funny business this. You know, we talked about 350 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts and you know here in Philly in this market, 351 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 8: fans don't know what to make of him. He's so inconsistent. 352 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 8: But if you really and I was talking to a 353 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 8: friend of mine with a team that is this off 354 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 8: the phone about twenty minutes ago. We had a great 355 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 8: talk about Hurts, ironically in a bunch of other situations. 356 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 8: He said, you'd love to be in a position where 357 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 8: you at least know who your quarterback is, right because 358 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 8: if you go through it, if you go through Arizona, 359 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 8: they don't know who the future quarterback is. New Orleans 360 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 8: they don't know who it is. Okay, if you look 361 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 8: at the Raiders, they absolutely do have no idea who 362 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 8: it is. Cleveland has no idea who it is. Jets 363 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 8: have no idea who it is. So the fans could 364 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 8: beat up Jalen Hurts all they want, you, guys, a 365 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 8: super Bowl winner. You see what Matthew Stafford's doing when 366 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 8: you hang in with a guy though he's older, he's 367 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 8: playing a league football. When you have cost certainty, you 368 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 8: know what you have. At least you have a chance. 369 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 8: And that's what the Eagles know with Jalen Hurts. Although 370 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 8: you really like his backup Tanner McKee, who I believe 371 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 8: will you had a first round pick, believe it or 372 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 8: not in March. But it is really funny, Doug, because 373 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 8: this Eagles team is so polarizing. I don't know what 374 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 8: it is, but people love to talk about it, so 375 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 8: I'm happy to. 376 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: Talk about Yeah. I think there's a little Russell Wilson 377 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: to him in that he is very concerned with appearance, 378 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: and I don't know I agree with that. I also 379 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: like Russell Wilson. Don't know if his teammates, all of 380 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: his teammates gravitate towards him the way they gravitate towards 381 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: some quarterbacks. I think that's a that's a question. I 382 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: don't know as an outsider. Maybe maybe you know this 383 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: is the Doug Out Show. You listen to Fox Sports Radio. Okay, 384 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: what about the what about the other side? You have 385 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 2: the Chargers survive with their quarterback playing a couple of 386 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: days after having his broken hand repaired, but they're still 387 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 2: kind of held together by patch patchwork offensive line. Trey 388 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: Pipkin's getting hurt now, yeah, and the defense came through. 389 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: What does it look like for them considering they're limping 390 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: to the finish? 391 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, Doug with the Chargers. Jesse Mentor, 392 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 8: who will be a head coaching candidate by the way, 393 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 8: he's done a great job. It's not the most talented defense, 394 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 8: it's execution. Uh. They they execute their own defense very 395 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 8: very well. There they're they're right there. I mean, it's 396 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 8: unlikely that they're going to win a division, but they're 397 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 8: almost starting to be a wild card. There are the 398 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 8: look Herbert has never had this injury before. 399 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 5: He look. 400 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 8: I give the guy credit. He actually led them in rushing, 401 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 8: which is not only did he leave them in rushing, 402 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 8: he had the most carries in any game he's had 403 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 8: over the last two seasons. It just doesn't make any 404 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 8: sense he would have this with a broken left hand. 405 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 8: He struggled to throw the football. Their line, as you mentioned, 406 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 8: they struggle to pass protect. He's the most pressure quarterback 407 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 8: in the game this year was this one. But yet 408 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 8: they've found a way to win. I give the guy credit. 409 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 8: He's good. She gotta have to play with this. It's 410 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 8: going to take six weeks for this thing to heal 411 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 8: and one heel to the playoffs. They're a good team, 412 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 8: but they're not a super Bowl team. But I say 413 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 8: that this guy I was mentioning who I talked to today. 414 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 8: He said, Man, this is here to make the playoffs 415 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 8: because anybody will win it. I you could say that 416 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 8: the Rams and the Broncos because they have the best records. Well, 417 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 8: New England does, but they're not as talented. They're tied 418 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 8: with Denver with the best record. But there's no dominant team, Doug. 419 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 8: If you can get in, you could win this thing. 420 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 5: Now. 421 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 8: I say that Pittsburgh has no chance. They're not winning 422 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 8: the Super Bowl. I know that right now. They're the 423 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 8: four seed and they have an advantage over Baltimore right now, 424 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 8: but they have to play on once more. And the 425 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 8: Colts thing is crazy with Philip Rivers. I love it, 426 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 8: but you know it is a wide open year. There 427 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 8: are no dominant teams. This rarely happens, Doug. You usually 428 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 8: kind of know by now who the best team is. 429 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: You do, and I have no idea either, Okay. 430 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 8: Which is great. I think it's great. People. Look, the 431 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 8: league loves this. 432 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting that I think the Bears in a loss, 433 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: gained a lot of respect maybe because they beat the 434 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: Eagles before. Where are you on the Bears now that 435 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 2: you've seen them against the Eagles and Packers and back 436 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 2: to back weeks. 437 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 8: It's a good question, I would say with the Bears. 438 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 8: Like my thoughts checking with people are in the league 439 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 8: on the Bears was this like no one really expected 440 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 8: a lot. You know, you didn't know about Ben Johnson. Defensively, 441 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 8: they don't really have much of passerage. They've been really 442 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 8: banged up in the secondary. I think the thing with 443 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 8: Caleb wins is he's improved. He's not taking sacks like 444 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 8: he did last year. But Doug, the problem with him 445 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 8: is is the accuracy. He misses his throws. He got 446 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 8: a hit, he can run, he's got a candidate of 447 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 8: an arm. He's coachable from I understand he's been coached better, 448 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 8: much better this season with this staff, and see Ben 449 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 8: Johnson and the head coaches calling the plays. But they're 450 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 8: another team, kind of like New England. They're just so 451 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 8: ahead a schedule. 452 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 2: Now. 453 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 8: The thing is, I remember talking to the Giants, Doug. 454 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 8: I want to bring this up because I want folks 455 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 8: to understand how it works. So I talked to the 456 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 8: Giants during the twenty two season after when they shocked 457 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 8: the world and made the playoffs and won a playoff game, 458 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 8: they went to Minnesota, right, they knew their team was 459 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 8: not as good as the record would in the cap 460 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 8: and they you know, they're like, wow, we're gonna have 461 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 8: to have a good assis. We just know we're not 462 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 8: that good, and we overachieve. We think we did a 463 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 8: good job coaching and all that, and you saw the 464 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 8: things spire out of control. Dable just got fired. So 465 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 8: I think you look at New England and talking to them, 466 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 8: I think they're very realistic ow and who they are 467 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 8: and what they are. They're ahead of schedule. Variable has 468 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 8: done a phenomenal job. He's learned a lot during his 469 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 8: time off and this time they spent with the Browns. 470 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 8: He's become a better head coach from talking to people there. 471 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 8: And then you got teams like you got a team 472 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 8: like Green Bay that's maybe the NFL's most talented team. 473 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 8: But somehow when the playoffs come, Matt Lafleur's a different coach. 474 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 8: I've called him the Lamar Jackson of head coach. Is 475 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 8: great regular season coach, not good in the playoffs. It 476 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 8: gets too tight. So it's so wide hoping I have 477 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 8: I have to do this. I I vote in two 478 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 8: polls up doing the for the playoff, I have to 479 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 8: pick like m v P and you know, so many 480 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 8: different for the ProFootball RGS Association, which is it's deeper, 481 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 8: it's not as recognized as AP, but it's it's a 482 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 8: pretty involved process. I got a problem with these awards. 483 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 8: I'm not sure where I'm going with any of this. 484 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 8: I I although i'd i'd vote for Stafford right now 485 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 8: as MVP. 486 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: U S Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, 487 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: I'm I'm sort of interested. I'm not sort of I'm 488 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: actually very interested on your take on the Chiefs. How 489 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: has this thing gone bad so bad so quickly? 490 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I I'm on w HB tomorrow, so 491 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 8: I've been on there for eight years and I'm gonna 492 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 8: have to talk about this. So in fact, I told 493 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 8: the host Stephen Saint Jahan's Steve, I think we got 494 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 8: to start looking toward the draft, and He's like, no, 495 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 8: I go, yeah, dude. So I'm gonna give you, Doug 496 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 8: what I have on this. So it's not an injury thing. 497 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 8: It it's partially age as great as Brett Feach is 498 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 8: one of the top three gms in the league any 499 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 8: read obviously one of the top two or three head 500 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 8: coaches in for history. They missed badly on some personnel. 501 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 8: Bad at cornerback. I knew this in the off season. 502 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 8: I've said it week after week. They're going to have 503 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 8: to do something at corner They missed on Kristin Fulton, 504 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 8: who came up from the Chargers. He didn't even play. 505 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 8: They owned six million dollars next year. Whether he's plays 506 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 8: footballor not. Again, that's guaranteed. They missed on that. They 507 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 8: missed with Jowan Taylor, the right tackle. The only reason 508 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 8: why they didn't cut him the off seasons because they 509 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 8: owned twenty million. Fully guaranteed. They missed on that. They 510 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 8: they traded Joe Toney. Okay, he's not a left tackle. Well, 511 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 8: he had to play left back on the Super Bowl 512 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 8: because they had nobody else. He's playing great football with Chicago. 513 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 8: That was a mistake. They haven't run the ball particularly well, 514 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 8: and then in Mahomes has been inconsistent and Kelsey still 515 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 8: looks like he can play. They're not getting the playmaking 516 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 8: they thought out of Xavier Worth. He's been hurt a lot. 517 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 8: Hollywood Brown has not progressed like they thought. He's really 518 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 8: not been hurt like he was last year. They're not 519 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 8: getting the play. So's to answer your question, it's missus 520 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 8: in person, unfortunately from a great front. Officers just not 521 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 8: having a great year and players who they thought would 522 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 8: do better are not doing as well. And to answer 523 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 8: your question, that's one hundred percent. This is what I've 524 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 8: been told, and that's that's the issue. 525 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: That sounds sound sounds about right to me? Who are 526 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: we missing? That's actually good? Like? Is Jacksonville good? Like? 527 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: Who are we missing? 528 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 8: At one? I've gotten a couple right. I got Seattle 529 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 8: right for sure. I didn't see this in le see 530 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 8: these first year coaches. It's just you really don't know. 531 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 8: And Anthony Campinelli, their defense coordinator, is I have to vote. 532 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 8: I have to vote for defensive Coach of the year. 533 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 8: He's probably gonna get it if they win the division, 534 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 8: which they should. I don't think Houston's that good. I 535 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 8: give Houston credit. They're on a they're on a small 536 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 8: heater here, but they're really not as good as either 537 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 8: eight and five record would say it is. But Jacksonville, 538 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 8: to me and Trevor Lawrence was turning them over left 539 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 8: and right. He's starting to play under control. Their defense 540 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 8: is probably overachieved, not the most talented defense, great coaching, 541 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 8: next Cuchin and buy And by the way, that's the thing, 542 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 8: this thing is so much better than anyone thought they 543 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 8: If you look at their roster, you go, okay, this 544 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 8: is probably a six or seven win team. Maybe if 545 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 8: if Liam Cone does a great job, maybe they'll be 546 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 8: eight or nine wins. Both they already have nine and 547 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 8: they probably will have eleven or twelve. They well, they 548 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 8: have an interest schedule and the Colts they may not 549 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 8: win another game. I just feel so bad for Chris 550 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 8: Boald GM and Colt fans who were riding high at 551 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 8: eight and two now, but they're struggling and they got problems. 552 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: Adam Kaplan is our guest here on the Doug Gottlieb 553 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Tradio. I have breaking news, caps, 554 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: so hold on real quick, let's take it. Turn it 555 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: over to Dan by Er. 556 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 3: Canny breaking news from Fox Sports Doug. 557 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 5: A report from ESPN says that the University of Michigan 558 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 5: has fired head football coach Sharon Moore. So Charon Moore 559 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 5: out after two seasons as the Wolverines head coach. 560 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: Still still think there's not a lot of pressure college 561 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: football there, Adam. 562 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 8: That Wow, I was that is not wow? That that 563 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 8: because I know college football is crazy in the timing 564 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 8: of this stuff, that to me is is surprising. I 565 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 8: just yeah, that that that's a surprise to me. I 566 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 8: didn't see that happening you college Football's what I like 567 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 8: about college football is is this is kind of like 568 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 8: if you know, if you're an NFL guy like myself, 569 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 8: this is where you see that. You see the guys 570 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 8: in the infancy of their careers and but the pressure 571 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 8: though from the coaching standpoint. This is why, by the way, 572 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 8: with Doug, I was talking to a college head coach 573 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 8: a couple of weeks ago was kind of moved on. 574 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 8: I got a better job. I'm not gonna go to 575 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,959 Speaker 8: who it was. But this is why these guys move 576 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 8: on because you never know if you don't, if you 577 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 8: don't meet expectations of what uh the alumni want and 578 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 8: people are in charge, you're going to get fired. You 579 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 8: know that, and you know you know you're coaching college basketball, 580 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 8: you kind of know the pressure that there is. Now 581 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 8: that that's surprising. I didn't see that one coming. 582 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 2: Then, I saw it coming next year. I did not 583 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: see coming with more. 584 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred percent. 585 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: Coming this year, but a last year. 586 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 5: We are. 587 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: Really quickly in the off season. Okay, in the off season. 588 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: How valuable is Kyler Murray going to be on the 589 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: open market. 590 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 8: It's a great question. Here's the thing with Kyler Murray. 591 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 8: It's this contract. There's a significant amount of guaranteed money 592 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 8: due to the next two years. Because of the contract structure, 593 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 8: the cardsoders are gonna most like, you have to eat 594 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 8: some of that money be able to trade him. They're 595 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 8: gonna have to eat some of that money. That's the 596 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 8: first thing. Now, Carler Murray's not gonna be for everybody. 597 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 8: He's under five ft ten, He's about five to nine 598 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 8: in a quarter, and that's you know, that's gonna be 599 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 8: a determin from teams trading for him. But they're they're 600 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 8: only thirty two of these jobs. Someone will be interested. 601 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 8: It'll probably happen. He's coming off with this fronk injury 602 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 8: and that's the concern. But the hottest guy I'm telling 603 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 8: you this right now because I got this from two 604 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 8: NFL people's gonna be Mac Jones. 605 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 5: Believe or not. 606 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 8: I know it's some people are Look, Mac, don't get 607 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 8: out of here. His tape, I'm told is phenomenal when 608 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 8: he filled in for brock Party. That's another reason why 609 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 8: they're still hanging in there. I mean, they're gonna make 610 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 8: the PLAYFFS most likely, but why they're alive for that 611 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 8: division and just why they're playing well is mac Jones 612 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 8: kind of kept everything afloat and played well. But he's 613 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 8: got to be in a West Coast system. He does 614 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 8: not have a strong arm. He's a timing based quarterback 615 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 8: and he's on the right system. He actually could be 616 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 8: this year's Daniel Jones. 617 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: You're the best, dude. I know it's a busy time 618 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: of year. Everybody wants to have you on. You got 619 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 2: great insight and everybody's talking about your Eagles. Remember check 620 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: out the inside. 621 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 8: But yes, check out my podcast. 622 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 623 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 624 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 625 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: It's the Doug gott Leab Show Fox Sports Radio. Be 626 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: sure check out a brand new YouTube channel for the show. 627 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: Just search Doug Gotlip Show on YouTube Again. That's Doug 628 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: Otleep Show. Be sure to hit the subscribe button and 629 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: don't you stop there. Hit the thumbs up icony comment away. 630 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: Let me know if you're agree with my takes and 631 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 2: if you absolutely hate them. Check out brand new channel 632 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: on YouTube again. Just search Doug out LOP Show and subscribe. 633 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: Let's get to Dan Buyer for the Press the. 634 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 5: Press, Dan Doug, We've got breaking news, as we just 635 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 5: broke a little while ago. ESPN the first to report 636 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 5: that Sharon Moore is out as the head football coach 637 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 5: at the University of Michigan. In a statement, Michigan is 638 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 5: saying that Moore was involved in an inappropriate relationship with 639 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 5: a staff member, so he has been terminated with cause, 640 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 5: effective immediately. Sharon Moore out of a job at Michigan. 641 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 5: Assistant Biff Pogey is going to take over as the 642 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 5: head coach as they get ready for the Citrus the 643 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 5: Cheese at Citrus Bowl against Texas on New Year's Eve. 644 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: Wow, Uh yeah, can't do it? Do it? Was he married? 645 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: I would assume. 646 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 5: I don't know if he is or isn't. 647 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: Whatever it's done is done. So now the question becomes 648 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: who's next head coach at Michigan? I mean jesse mentor 649 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: becomes the easy call. I think he's done a great 650 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: job as defensive coordinated with the Chargers. Then that seem 651 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: to make sense. Keeps it in that Michigan family, and 652 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: he was the DC when they won the national championship. 653 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 5: This was Doug. This was us just a few uh 654 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 5: within the last hour and Samuel saying that he is married, Yes, 655 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 5: yes he is, yes, But this was us talking about 656 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 5: not knowing about the news that was going to come 657 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 5: down about Doug. You posed the question about maybe Marcus 658 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 5: Freeman leaving Notre Dame possibly to a new job. This 659 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 5: is what we said earlier. If Ryan Day were to 660 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 5: leave tomorrow, Marcus Freeman being a candidate at the top, 661 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 5: you know what, he definitely topped the list of anybody 662 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 5: out there of taking that job. But you know what, 663 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 5: would would that be the would that even be the 664 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 5: timing of the move? 665 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, who's going to come after him in 666 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: a year? 667 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 5: Who's that? 668 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: Michigan? 669 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? Maybe, yeah, I don't think. 670 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I don't think now is 671 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: the I don't think now is the time. It is 672 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: the most sound. 673 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 5: You got a little bit more steam of us? Do 674 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 5: we have more of us? Yeah? Sure? The Charon more experience. Yeah, 675 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 5: has not come to fruition despite signing that he just 676 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 5: had a really good recruiting class Michigan will see how 677 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 5: that pans out. 678 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 6: He has improved year over year on his record, right, it's. 679 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: Two years he started a freshman quarterback. They're going to 680 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: have ups and downs. I mean, you gotta get yeah, 681 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: you got to get better. 682 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 6: To quit back five and now he's nine and three. 683 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I actually yeah, I like from the outside 684 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 5: looking in and not knowing all of the ins and 685 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 5: outs there, I've actually felt that he's done an alright job. 686 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 5: But there is this and maybe it's social media blowing 687 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 5: it out of proportion, but there's a bit of this 688 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 5: undercurrent that isn't happy with what he's done. Sure, I mean, 689 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 5: I don't know if he should have gotten the job 690 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 5: for all the other stuff that he was implicated in, 691 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 5: but that's neither here nor there. Well now they so, yes, 692 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 5: that was us earlier. I started to get my pointed. 693 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: At the end. 694 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 5: No idea, No, I had no idea. 695 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 8: But I'm joking. 696 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 5: This caught us all by surprise. They caught a lot 697 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 5: of people by surprise. But you know, Adam Schefter obviously 698 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 5: in a Michigan alum Dan Wetzel's based in Michigan very 699 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 5: close to the program, and Pete Thamil of ESPN. All 700 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 5: three were in on the news, the breaking news. I 701 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 5: think that there's a lot of it. I mean, I 702 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 5: don't think that there are people that wanted your own 703 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 5: more there and now it's kind of like the Mel 704 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 5: Tucker situation at Michigan State. Different situation with the contract 705 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 5: that Tucker signed. But if you can dismiss your own 706 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 5: more with cause and have a reason to do so, 707 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 5: I think they jumped at the opportunity to do so. 708 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, I don't know. Michigan if they found 709 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: that stuff comes comes to light, there's nothing you can do. Look, 710 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: it's interesting now. 711 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 5: Look at everything that else team that has come to 712 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 5: light with his role in all of the other stuff, 713 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 5: and they still gave him the head coaching job. Like 714 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 5: That's the thing that gets to me is hardball got 715 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 5: out basically Scott Clean he left, wins the National Championship clause. Yeah, 716 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 5: like he's not going to come back to college football. 717 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 5: But to for Michigan to be like, Okay, we're going 718 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 5: to keep our other guys around, that was surprising. 719 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: That was their way of keeping all the players. 720 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 5: Yes, I think it was also their way of saying, 721 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 5: we haven't done anything wrong, and now you have two 722 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 5: years of shar Own More. 723 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: I don't think they did much wrong either, to be 724 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: honest with. 725 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 5: You, Yeah that you and I dig the conversation. 726 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: But I don't think that was their thought. I think 727 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 2: the thought was that they thought they could keep because 728 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 2: this is what happens now. Now you fire him, You're 729 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 2: gonna have to have a whole new football team next year. 730 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: That's what happens. Now, everybody hit the portal. They will 731 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 2: hit the portal, and you'll have, you know, in the 732 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: sixty new players, seventy new players next year. 733 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 5: What happens, What happens to Indiana. I'm just I'm just 734 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 5: saying that Michigan did such a great job in saying 735 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 5: that they never did, ever, did anything wrong, and now 736 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 5: is the time where they fire Sharon More for an 737 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 5: inappropriate relationship, which is I'm not saying is should be allowed. 738 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 5: That's not what I'm saying, is that this is the 739 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 5: straw that broke the camel's back again. 740 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 2: Don't know the details. My guess it's not good. 741 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 5: I find it timing's very interesting, that's for sure. 742 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 4: But could Doug be right for the second time this 743 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 4: week he was out in front of the Philip Rivers 744 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 4: thing and he just said, the Marcus Freeman thing could 745 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 4: have you two for two. 746 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: God, I wish I had that a lot of numbers. 747 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 5: I don't think so, only because in our conversation that 748 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 5: we had that we were in no idea. Well, I 749 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 5: also don't think that Marcus Freeman would leave Notre Dame again. 750 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 2: I don't. Again, I don't think he leaves from Michigan. 751 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 2: But you know, all it takes is one disappointing year 752 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 2: at Notre Dame where people are on him, coinciding with 753 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: Michigan or Penn State or Alabama or somebody being available, 754 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: and to be like, hey, if you're not happy there, 755 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: five X ext your money and we got more nil 756 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: and you'd be happy here. 757 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 8: Again. 758 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it works, but that's the timing of how 759 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: it does work. 760 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 5: Quick to pay off the teas. The NFL Draft is 761 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 5: shortening the time of first round picks. Starting in twenty 762 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 5: twenty six. It will be trimmed down from ten minutes 763 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 5: to eight minutes per team to make their first round selection. 764 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 5: Pete Alonzo is a Baltimore Oriole. Derek Lively done for 765 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 5: the year for the MAVs. 766 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: God, if anybody has worse luck than the MAVs. 767 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, especially in the draft lottery. That's the press. 768 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 2: Press, right, No, I did, I forgot about I forgot 769 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: about that one. I forgot about that one. Check out 770 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: the new YouTube channel, Doug Gotlip Show, and check out 771 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 2: the podcast. Type in Doug Gotlieb. Get your podcast back 772 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: tomorrow on The Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio.