WEBVTT - Vicki-TIMIZED! | UGT Recap with Dustin Ross 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:06.760 Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.239 I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.520 favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.360 and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:23.040 Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:27.680 Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.680 addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:32.960 scripted as well. 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:39.320 So Ray Drowns. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.240 The reason why you're hearing me laugh at the top 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.199 of the supporting as Dustin Raws and I are going 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:49.520 to recap episode two of The Real Housewives Ultimate Girls 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.839 Trip is because I'm like, hey, Dustin, how's your weekend? 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.040 He said, better than Vicki's. 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.840 Better than much better than her, since I know they've 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.360 been tearing her ass up. I see the comments. Okay, 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.160 not the comments, but the tweets. That's what I see. 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.280 I see the tweets about this, and I'm not the 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.720 only person that feels like Vicky had a totally different 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:15.880 energy for Teresa than she did for Gizelle in that 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:20.000 sprinter van. The minute that Giselle brought something up to 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:28.400 the surface Vicky was confrontational. She was combative, She was argumentative, clipped, snipped, nasty, 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.840 sitting up there looking like a cockatoo. You know how 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:38.039 she does, sitting up there, oh, doing all of that shit. 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.200 But when Teresa said, and when you're done with that, 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:46.160 you were mean to me yesterday too, Vicky softened. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:48.560 What did I do? 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:54.000 Oh no, no, I never wanted to explain herself, wants 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:58.000 to add context to her actions and shit, she had 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:59.600 totally different energy for Teresa. 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.040 I thought that was noteworthy. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:07.200 So let's get right into it, cause you starting off strong. 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.600 Brother, Let's get to it. I caught it, and everybody 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.720 else know they caught it too. You want a fight 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.400 in battle and you're ready to just go there and 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.960 be just getting to with Gazelle boll and Teresa raises 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:21.000 an issue. You want to soften up and be receptive 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:22.400 to it and all that other shit. 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:29.280 So when you saw the rain drops as you watch 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.160 Aultimcgirl's trail, what Dustin is referring to. If the ladies 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.799 are in Orange County, they are now as printer van 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:46.280 hit it to Beverly Hills, right, and Gizelle look, Gizelle 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.000 doing her job right Dustinell. 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.040 Doing what she's there to do, doing what she said 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.160 she was actually looking forward to doing before she knew 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:58.639 that her foolishness would be usurped and trumped pun intended 0:02:59.000 --> 0:02:59.600 by VICKI. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:04.720 So she didn't know. Gizilla just doing her job. 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:08.520 Man, she punched that client and went on and clocked in, 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:13.119 did her job. Vicky is making it personal. I think 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:14.080 that's the difference. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.520 So here is what's going on. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.880 So Giselle learned from Lisa Barlow, which, by the way, 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:25.840 I don't know if you know this about me, and 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.120 I never even ask you this. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.720 I know you watched Salt Lake City, but you know 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.840 I am Carlos. I love all the girls king. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.560 Yes, I get it. 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:38.520 I love more. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.360 But when it comes to Salt Lake City, I will 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.880 go on the record saying that Lisa Barlow is my 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.720 number one. I love her and I'm not gonna shy 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:55.680 away from it. I think I think she There's certain 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.080 people who was born to be reality star, and I 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.440 will I will go to the farm Lisa television. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:07.520 She's a quintessential real housewife, and by by textbook definition, 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:13.360 if you look at the characteristics that are similar amongst housewives, 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.080 and she just was born to be a housewife. I 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.200 would also like to add Meredith Marx into that conversation. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.800 I feel like so like as a couple of people 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.560 that are natural born like ball busting housewives. Meredith Mars 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.960 is definitely one, and she's one of my favorites men 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:29.640 are in person. 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:30.760 She was loved. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:34.120 I never I met. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:38.480 Okay, I met all the girls except Heather and Meredith. 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.320 How is Meredith Marx? 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:45.000 I'm cool as hell, super cool, so much fun. 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:46.960 God rest. 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.599 My best friend Frank Watson soul but him and I. 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.279 Frank was a huge Housewives fan. He watched any city. 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:54.839 He didn't give it damn what it was. He just 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.360 loved the Housewives. He knew it like how I do. 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:02.240 And so anytime we were anytime we would running too 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.240 any of the Housewives, he would be just it would 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:05.640 be like a fever dream for him. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:07.080 He would be so excited. 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.160 And so when we went to Bravo Khan one year, 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.120 we were at the after party for that night of 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.440 Bravo Khan and I got videos of him dancing with 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:21.200 Job and we hung out with Meredith Marks. And then 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.000 one time I was sitting at I was actually on 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:28.080 the date at at a restaurant that won't be named 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.200 in New York City and I'm sitting at the bar 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:34.280 discussing Real Housewives of Atlanta and the person I was. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.920 With was like, ain't that one of the housewives behind you? 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.320 And Whitney Rose was literally sitting next to me at 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.720 the bar at this restaurant downtown in New York and 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:48.360 met Packing District, and so yes, that's where I. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:49.719 Ran in through her at yeah. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:06:03.440 Talking about yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:06.240 New York ship. 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.599 But yeah, so those are my Salt Lake connection. So 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.680 I definitely am enjoying Lisa Barlow on this cast. I 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.440 think that they made a great choice, and really they 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.000 could have went three different ways. Really they could have 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.840 went Heather, Meredith or Lisa. To be honest with you, 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.640 I think that Lisa for the for for a show 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.839 where your personality and quirkiness and you know, those sort 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:30.279 of things that would make it fun. 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.080 I think Lisa was a good choice. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.120 No, I do too, I do too, I do too, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.480 and I kind of agree more and rain drops before 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:37.920 I continue on the what happened? 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:43.640 As Dustin's talking about what Vicky did, because I think 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.360 I'm picking up with the dropping. 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:51.280 And and I really want to dive into the the undertoned. 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:57.800 I think, okay, okay, so, but I have to continue 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.360 with what you're saying now about Bravo could have went, 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:06.039 let's be real, Heather, Meredith or Lisa to represent Saltake City. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.120 They are the ogs. Lisa us the right choice based 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:13.280 on everything doesn't said. And I will say this. I 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:19.800 know there was a jarring reaction to Porsche Williams representing 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:25.480 Atlanta because she's a five girly among Season one ogs 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:30.000 on this particular cast. And what I will say this is, 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:34.320 while I understood that everybody, even Porsche, will say yes, 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.280 Niini was is the one you would think about representing. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.640 Because we know that Nini Is, you. 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.920 Know, is compromised. 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:46.840 That's a good way of you think it. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:54.240 With that, brother, I can't see them doing anyone else 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:55.800 but Porsche. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:57.400 And it's what you said about Lisa. 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:02.880 Porsche is bringing so much youthfulness, fun comedy to this 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.920 that and I'm not gonna name names because y'all messy, 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.240 but y'all can name names for me in the comments, 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:09.720 and I may respond to it. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.720 If you think about any other alant of housewife. 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:19.559 I just don't see anyone else providing the comedy, the fun, 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.920 youthfulness that that cast needs. 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:27.720 Desperately, right, yes, thank you, okay. 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:32.640 Yes, desperately need her energy. Her and Gazelle are kind 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.360 of leading that ship over there with Kyle. I say, 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:39.480 it's a Gazelle, Porsche and Kyle trifecta with honorable mention 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.360 of Luyne that are kind of running the show over 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:43.120 there right now. 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:45.760 Yeah, oh, I can't wait to talk to you more 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:46.160 about this. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.880 Yeah, yeah, so, I mean I think again, great choice 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:50.679 in Porsche. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.959 She's bringing great, incredible fashion. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.160 I love them Tom for pajama she had on at 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.840 the it was just it's exactly what you want. She 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.120 was sitting up there, she knew she had to step 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.000 in Beverly Hills. As far as the fashion is concerned, 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.920 she's sitting it at Sudden's table. Scaparelli down, you know 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.199 what I'm saying, like, yeah, you've seen that, the earring 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:12.360 and stuff, all that shit. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:13.120 Yeah, so. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.320 Said her fashion this season, and this is just another 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.160 example of why she was the right choice. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.240 Yep, No, she was, she was. 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.280 She was Okay, back to Vicki on the bus. Okay, 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:32.319 so they're on their way to Beverly Hills. Kyle mentions 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:37.559 that this is the thirty year wedding anniversary of her Mauricio, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.480 and she's crying and and. 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:48.359 Vicky look Vicky. Even before they got on the sprinter bus, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.880 Vicky was a little. 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:57.360 Off putting to Yeah, as she's crying about her marriage, 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:02.280 and Vickie telling Kyle, you let your family down and 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:05.640 your kids down, and you're telling them it's okay to 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.840 lead when things get bad in your marriage. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.320 And I'm like, I think that's a great message to 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.600 give your children. Should you tell them to stay and 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.280 suffer through it and be stunned and stifled in other 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:17.240 areas it their life? 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.079 Hell no, you should encourage. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.920 You should set an example, especially Kyle with all those daughters. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.000 I think she should set an example that, hey, young 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.720 woman of the world of today, you don't have to 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.640 stick and stay no matter how long you been with 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.920 a motherfucker. If the shit ain't healthy and it's toxic 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.400 for you, you can end it. Personally, I think this 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.160 is just people's personal choice and their views, and I 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.880 respect everybody's. I think that is the example to set. 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.800 You should teach your young ladies to stand up for themselves. 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.080 If shit ain't right. So I actually disagree with Vicki. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:49.560 But that's not a surprise, now. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:50.960 Is it. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:52.240 You know what it is? 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.520 It's and listen, maybe I was calling some bubbo because 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.040 she's been gone off the show for so many years. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.480 On this season of OC, Emily's calling her Debbie Downer 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:07.440 and I'm seeing and this is Dustin. What we're watching 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.840 is before they started shooting season twenty. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.800 Vicky is a Debbie Downer. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:18.120 And it's interesting because on one hand, I'm entertained by 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.120 the girls going at her because I love it. 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:21.240 But on the. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.839 Second hand, I'm like, I don't know if I want 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.640 to watch his weekly. I think if you have that 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.560 attitude once every blue moon, that's one thing. But to 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.600 tell a woman who's crying she made a bad decision 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.800 and you wish somebody would have told you that. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.839 Okay, that's fine, but that's not what Kyle. 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:42.360 Needed right now, Like that's something that you're giving her 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.960 unsolicited advice. Now, On one hand, I did appreciate Vicky 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.160 being honest that, yes, I was a reality star. 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:51.680 The show was hot. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:56.120 I'm hot, you know, it's life camera action. I'm famous, 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.760 And how she thought that would last forever. That's one 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.679 thing that I did enjoy listening to because what I 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.360 can say to you, Dustin is I know a lot 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:10.880 of women feel that way right now, as somebody who's 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:15.480 been around since day one, that ninety nine point nine 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:19.000 percent of the girls never thought this show. 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:19.439 Would go away. 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.000 Yeah you can till you can tell. 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:29.440 Yeah, So that part I appreciate it, But Vicky's nastiness 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.960 is not enjoyable to me. No. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:39.120 What has happened is the housewives have evolved. The show 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:45.080 and what it is has changed. There's levels of accountability 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.960 that these ladies face amongst each other and coming from 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:54.080 the fandom as well. These women move differently, so it's 0:12:54.160 --> 0:13:00.199 no longer sufficient. It's actually now insufficient to just yell 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.280 and belch and bucket her eyes and bourb and gurgle 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:09.839 and grunt and get drunk as hell full of vodka, 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:13.360 you know, whooping it up. It takes more than that. 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.000 Now you have to actually have some personality, something to say, 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:20.320 something to bring to the table, and the areas based 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.600 on a little bit I do know about Vicki's personal 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.719 life as a mom and stuff, and you know, her 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:26.760 dating life or whatever. 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:28.480 In order for her to really be real. 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:30.400 I don't think she'd be willing to do that to 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.560 talk about the complexities of the relationship between her and 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.760 our son, are even between our son and her daughter, 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.160 you know, related to their political views all that kind 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.360 of stuff. Yeah, she's not going to go there and 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.360 talk about that, which I don't really think she has 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.079 the I think she's a smart woman when it comes 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.040 to the business that she's conducted as an insurance agent 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:53.760 and owning and an insurance agency and really seeing success 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.680 with that. I think there's a level of brilliance that 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:01.600 is specifically focused on that space. But I don't think 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.800 that she has the depth and capacity to really articulate 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.400 the nuances of some of the relationships in her life 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:13.120 that would actually make her a relevant, interesting housewife. At 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.640 the time, VICKI just wants to come back on TV 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.760 and yell and burp and belch and shit, you know, 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:24.560 and ride around, leaning all over everything, yelling in people's face. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.600 And Tamra's brand of Housewives has been similar to that, 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.360 but it's evolved as the show has evolved, and when 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.120 Tamor came back, she was able to jump back into 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:38.840 the new rhythm that the housewarks have established, she evolved, 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.160 she grew, she talked about different things. She's got a 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.800 podcast talking about the other housewives. She shows her personality 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:50.400 tamor is. She's a polarizing character, so either you love 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:51.960 her or hate her, but a lot of people love 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.520 her for that reason. So I think there's just an 0:14:55.680 --> 0:15:05.400 unwillingness to explore and just make things substantive that I 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:09.400 think that Vicky is going to be handicapped by because 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:15.480 it's gonna take more than, like I said, drunk burping, belching, uh, 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.560 you know, stomach bubbling on camera, all of that. It's 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:20.840 going to take a lot more than that to be interesting. 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.120 It's a different ball game. 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.480 So no, it is. It is. 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.000 It is, And it's one of those things where it's 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:28.960 when you've been out of the game for so long 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.200 and the coach puts you back in and you're still 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.040 doing plays that work seven years ago and I and 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.760 I am seeing that this season. So getting back to 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:40.040 what you mentioned at the top of the show, you're 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:44.800 talking about when Giselle brought up what Lisa Bralo told 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.880 her that, Hey, Vicky, you told Lisa. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.240 Barlow that. 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.320 I wasn't ship basically and use the box. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:59.200 Yeah, you know, Vicky's on her laptop working. It was 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.600 very dismissive to Gazelle, and Gazelle's like, look, bitch, I'm 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.160 clocked in. I'm hunting my job because we're not gonna 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:05.760 sit the them and sprint her for a two hour 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.680 drive to La crying about Colin Marisia. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.440 Well, Brobaly paying us to do that. 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:16.520 Gill's clocked in. Vickie's dismissed up. She wasn't to Teresa. 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:23.160 Are you intimating Dustin that you believe that Vicky was 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:30.080 dismissive to Giselle based on race and stature in Vickie's 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:34.000 mind versus you know Teresa Judais where she kind of 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.080 not kinda She softened her message and apologized to her instantly. 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:42.160 One I think that it is, and I'm not gonna 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.160 just say I do think it is because of race, 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:46.760 but I think it is because of a lack of 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:51.880 respect as well, based on her not even making an 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:56.560 effort to know any about Jesse or Porsche. Right, she 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.600 knows Teresa, and she knows Teresa's history with the household. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.480 She has a different amount of respect for Teresa, it 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.639 appears through her engagement with her than she does for 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.720 Gizelle and even Porsche. But Porscha showed her very early 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:15.280 on in the first episode, I will get with your ass, okay, 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.680 before we even have to take it there, I want 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.480 you to know up front, I am that girl who 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.600 will do that. She did it, and I think that 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.000 Vicky kind of she understood that that's a danger zone. 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.840 I think that she doesn't have so that's a fear 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.720 based respect almost, but she doesn't have any general respect 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.320 for Gizel. That's why she was, like you said, dismissive, 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:39.680 not even looking at her in her computer, unwilling to talk. 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.560 Literally said okay, well I'm over here working y'all. Fight 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.639 did her hand like that and everything. But when Teresa says, 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.479 well when you're done with that two days later, mind you, 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.400 When she says, well, when you're doing that, you mean 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.560 to me too yesterday with what you did what I do, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:58.240 it was an. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.240 Immediate shift in the energies. And I'm like, hmm. 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.000 They usually is equated to a lack of respect. Now 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.840 the question is why don't you respect them? 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:08.880 You know what I'm saying. And that's where we start 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:10.600 to talk about it. Look at her life. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.520 I think it's just telling you know what I'm saying, 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.639 And it's fine for people to feel how they feel 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:18.960 and like what they like. When you start fucking treating 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.480 other people differently, that's where you fuck up. Be who 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.399 you are, like what you like, believe what you believe, 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.960 but don't disrespect other people based on that, because that 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.440 right there. Shout out to Tammy Roman, that can really 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:32.320 get you popped. 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:41.240 You can't, so you know, yeah, yes, basketball around President school, Sammy. 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:47.720 Yeah, when you do this, that could really get you pop. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:49.560 That's how it is, you know what I'm saying. 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.600 So yeah, yeah, no, it was. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.960 It was very interesting because you know, Teresa's like you said, 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.440 I changed the most after they saw their poster boards 0:18:59.880 --> 0:19:02.800 or cut out of their season each of their. 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.280 Season one looks yeah, and you know she was like, no, 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.040 I wasn't even talking about that. I think you look good. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.760 And then to Reason brought up taxes and VICKI said, 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.119 I want to talk about you. I was talking about 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.520 someone else on my show, and I'm like, well, that 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:19.320 doesn't make any sense because from my understanding, and I 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.560 watched OC like you do, I think oh C has 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:23.520 tax issues. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:29.879 Yeah you talking about right, So I just you know, Vicky. 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.760 Nice try, but actually bad try because you didn't even 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.000 That's what I mean. She doesn't even give a funk 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:39.600 enough about these women to even make an effort to 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:43.080 just try to eat you know what I mean, do anything. 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.280 She just is dismissive in a way that is not 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:46.480 entertaining to me. 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.840 You know. Yeah, that's just got to. 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:52.720 Be Listen, you know, I love Vicky. 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:53.359 I love Yeah. 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.520 I had my podcast, you know, going over the word 0:19:59.359 --> 0:19:59.920 Windy stuff. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.760 That's when she first kissed me off, and she was 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.080 talking about Wendy stuff. You remember that, I ain't you 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.280 on the side, like I ain't like that ship because 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:09.800 I didn't like the way she was discussing that and she, 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.679 I mean, this is so bad and she's for me. 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.680 Is that what you can't you can't just you can't, 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:17.560 you can't. 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.919 Just that's what she was doing, and she she just 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.200 makes me so. I didn't like how she was discussing 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:24.560 that black woman's situation. 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:26.520 Sorry, everything about that. 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:30.520 But I noticed it then, and that's why when you 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:34.120 hit me up on the side, I said, you very. 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.440 Honestly, like honestly that way, I said, but hey, I 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:39.320 just heard you're coming from. 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:44.480 Yeah, and even watching her this episode. 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:49.359 So two, Mike, my concern for Vicki is this, and 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.560 this is me speaking as a producer, not a viewer. 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:57.080 M I'm concerned that she would not get asked back 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.600 to season twenty one, and I'm concerned this would be 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.280 the last time you see her on Bravo. 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:03.720 And the reason why I'm. 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:07.320 Concerned is because one thing I know about that network. 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:09.680 At the end of the day, yes, drama. 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.000 Is whatever it is, what it is, but that network 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:17.520 prize itself on women having fun, and Vicky isn't having fun. 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:21.119 And the one cardinal rule that you said, Dustin that 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:25.359 I can confirm that means a lot to Bravo is 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:29.360 getting to know women and establishing friendships. Yeah, and that's 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:33.600 the reason why we get to Atlanta Housewives tonight see 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:37.919 on YouTube. But if you don't try to foster a 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:42.040 friendship with these women, it is not something that the 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:44.760 audience or the network wants to buy into because they're 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.840 because that they're going to be like, well, you don't 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:49.960 have any friends, so I'm sorry, Like you don't have. 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:52.360 Any friends, we don't have a reason to care. Therefore 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:55.000 we will no longer have a reason to care. So 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:59.119 it is detrimental to the whole program when you do that, 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:03.359 and it's not funny, be funny. I remember her back 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.720 in early oh C days. I had never never seen 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:09.359 someone that acted like her, and it was funny the 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:11.399 things that she would do and say, and just watching 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.520 these ladies act the fool was funny. You didn't got 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.160 too old for that. It just don't even look right 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:20.960 no more. That's the thing is, it's not even entertaining anymore. 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:23.520 On top of the fact that you're laying that. When 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:28.560 you do decide to get personal, you tell this can't 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:32.119 troop Beverly Hills ass eighth grade ass story about somebody 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:36.480