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Speaker 2: Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts.

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Speaker 1: Now wanted to give credit to Bill Maher who, being

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Speaker 1: willing to go actually meet with President and Trump in person.

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Speaker 1: He had a dinner with Kid Rock at the in

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Speaker 1: the White House after I believe they went into the

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Speaker 1: Oval Office as well, and I want to play some

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Speaker 1: of the cuts. This is from Bill Maher's HBO show,

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Speaker 1: and I think what Bill Maher is saying here is

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Speaker 1: what many of you have found in your experience is

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Speaker 1: either listening to Trump on this program or other programs

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Speaker 1: over the last decade. I believe the number is that

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Speaker 1: I have been involved in interviewing Trump, either by myself

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Speaker 1: or with Buck Now eleven times, and so I feel

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Speaker 1: like I know Trump fairly well at this point. We've

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Speaker 1: talked to him hours on this program during the course

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Speaker 1: of the last four years. And what Bill Maher is

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Speaker 1: saying is what I have found to be true of

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Speaker 1: Trump in private. He's an incredibly likable, charismatic guy who

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Speaker 1: frankly feels kind of like a grandpa when I have

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Speaker 1: been around him. And let's listen to a couple of

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Speaker 1: these cuts. He also has, and I think this is important,

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Speaker 1: a pretty good sense of humor. He's actually very, very funny,

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Speaker 1: and most of his critics don't get it. Here's Bill

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Speaker 1: Maher saying he showed up with a list of insults

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Speaker 1: that Trump had called him, and Trump autographed it for him,

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Speaker 1: which is incredible. Listened to cut fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Before I left for the Capitol. I had my staff

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Speaker 3: collect and print out this list of almost sixteen different

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Speaker 3: insulting epithets that the President has said about me, things

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Speaker 3: like stupid, dummy, low life, dummy, sleeves bag six said,

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Speaker 3: stone cold crazy, really a dumb.

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Speaker 4: Guy, fired like a dog. His show is dead.

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Speaker 2: Six.

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Speaker 3: I brought this to the White House because I wanted

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Speaker 3: him to sign it.

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Speaker 4: Which he did, which he did with good humor.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I mean, this is how it should be.

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Speaker 1: I talked about the Taylor Lorenz. Oh he's a morally

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Speaker 1: good man. That's not how it should be. How it

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Speaker 1: should be is people can disagree, sometimes they might even

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Speaker 1: say mean things, but when they meet face to face

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Speaker 1: they behave like adults. And most of the time I

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Speaker 1: have found when you meet someone face to face, you

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Speaker 1: are more likely to like them, particularly when it's someone

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Speaker 1: like Donald Trump that is actually very likable. We've said

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Speaker 1: on this program for a long time. Look, you can

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Speaker 1: disagree with his policies. I am one hundred percent of

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Speaker 1: the opinion that you can look at Trump's policies and

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Speaker 1: you can say I hate the terrify ideas. You can say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I think we should have free and wide open borders.

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Speaker 1: You can say police are too empowered, or he's taking

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Speaker 1: too much executive authority. I don't agree with those arguments,

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Speaker 1: but I think you can make those arguments and be

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Speaker 1: a rational, normal human being. What you can't say is

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Speaker 1: he's Hitler. He's not in any way remotely similar to

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Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler. Disagree with his policies, attacking him personally is absurd.

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Speaker 1: And what I have said for some time is, and

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Speaker 1: I bet what Bill Maher now recognizes. Trump is an

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Speaker 1: energy person. Whatever energy you give to him, he gives

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Speaker 1: and ten times as kind to you. If you are unfavorable, uncharitable, cruel, mean,

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Speaker 1: he's going to get give that back to you ten x.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you give, Trump gives back ten x. That's the

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Speaker 1: lesson that everybody should have learned by now. And actually,

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Speaker 1: And this is what Bill Maher is saying. Bill maher

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Speaker 3: For starters, he laughs. I'd never seen him laugh in public,

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Speaker 3: but he does, including it himself, and it's not fake.

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Speaker 3: Believe me, as a comedian of forty years, I know

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Speaker 3: a fake laugh when I hear it. Okay, example, in

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Speaker 3: the Oval office, he was showing me the portraits of

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Speaker 3: there was also that whole bringing down communism thing. Waiting

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Speaker 3: get pushed and I go through the trap door. But no,

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Speaker 1: He got it. He has a really good sense of humor.

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Speaker 1: He's also insanely self aware. Some of you may have

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Speaker 1: seen me on Fox and friends over the weekend. I'll

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Speaker 1: take feedback by the way, eight hundred two two eight

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Speaker 1: a two. I'll tell you what my mom said in

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon allowed himself to get bullied humanizing Trump. Every

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Speaker 1: It's actually incredibly unfortunate because if you go back and

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's tons of things that kids will say,

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Speaker 4: We were playing.

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Speaker 3: He said, you know, I've heard from a lot of

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Speaker 1: Face to face, the caricature that you have built in

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Speaker 1: They feel like if they pretend to be something, that

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 5: Attorney General Ken Taxton of the state of Texas he

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Speaker 5: Appreciate you calling in, sir.

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Speaker 6: Hey, glad to be on. I appreciate you having me on.

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Speaker 6: You's gonna be a fun, fun, fun year coming up.

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Speaker 5: Can I We know you've announced your Senate run and

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Speaker 5: so that's that's a very you know, very very exciting

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Speaker 5: You've thrown your hat on the ring for that.

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Speaker 4: I want to talk to you more about that.

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Speaker 5: In the meantime, though, I thought perhaps you could just

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Speaker 6: Well? Certainly not necessarily a higher standard, but she had

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Speaker 1: A lot of discussion. Well, first of all, let's allow

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Speaker 1: you to tell our audience, who may not have heard otherwise,

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Speaker 1: you have had a lot of success in Texas electoral

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Speaker 1: politics already. You've won a lot of battles, You've fought

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Speaker 6: So the primary is the first to DMR. So we're,

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of issues that I'm frustrated I think

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Speaker 1: We may have just lost him there for a sec

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Speaker 4: He just laid it out. March him next year.

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Speaker 5: So let me ask you, just Attorney General Paxston, because

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Speaker 5: But Attorney General Paxton, where have you broken with Cornyn

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Speaker 6: Sure, I'll give you a couple of examples. First was

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Speaker 6: And then, of course he's been he's not been a

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Speaker 1: So let's dive into this in particular, you just mentioned

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Speaker 6: Yeah, certainly the endorsement is up to him. I don't

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Speaker 5: Speaking of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, he is going

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Speaker 5: I wanted to lean on your legal expertise if I

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Speaker 5: The media is completely drilled into now this mister Abrago Garcia,

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Speaker 6: Well, I think this judge across the line, this is

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Speaker 6: and taking control of the situation. I think that's wrong

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Speaker 6: and I think that needs to stop. I think Congress

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Speaker 6: needs to act and stop these nationwide injunctions that aren't

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Speaker 6: based in any fact or law, and we certainly there's

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Speaker 6: I think there are narrow cases that we use against

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden when it was a nationwide issue, that this

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Speaker 6: one is clearly in the purview of the executive and

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Speaker 6: this judge just needs to be stopped.

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Speaker 1: How has life in Texas changed since Joe Biden left office?

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Speaker 1: Trump came in in particular when it comes to the border.

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Speaker 1: We talk about it on the program because basically the

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Speaker 1: border has ceased to be an issue at all. It

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Speaker 1: is now secure. What does that look like? What does

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Speaker 1: it feel like in Texas?

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Speaker 6: It's I mean, I think people are excited, they feel safer.

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Speaker 6: The costliness of it has gone down. Obviously for US,

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Speaker 6: we a lot of expense from law enforcement, health, insurance,

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Speaker 6: all kinds of different issues. Education, that's our cost. And

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Speaker 6: the Celler government never stepped in. Even though they were

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Speaker 6: inviting these people in and working with the cartels to

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Speaker 6: get them across the border, they were not helping us financially,

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Speaker 6: and so it's a huge relief to us. And obviously

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Speaker 6: our legislatures spent billions of dollars trying to protect the

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Speaker 6: border in lieu of the Biden administration doing just the opposite.

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Speaker 6: So it has a tremendous financial impact, but it's also

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Speaker 6: I think people just feel safer knowing that we have

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Speaker 6: a president that's protecting our order.

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Speaker 1: We're number one in Austin, off and on, We're number

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Speaker 1: one in San Antonio, off and on. We are number

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Speaker 1: one in Houston, off and on. I say off and

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Speaker 1: on because on a weekly, monthly basis things can evolve.

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Speaker 1: But we have monster audience across the entire state of Texas,

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Speaker 1: and we appreciate all of you listening right now. We're

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Speaker 1: also newly on in Dallas, which is where I think

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Speaker 1: you are right now. When you look at this March

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Speaker 1: primary that is coming up next year, I know the

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Speaker 1: answer is everywhere in terms of where will this race

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Speaker 1: be decided, but in particular what areas? What has turnout

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Speaker 1: look like a lot of times people don't show up

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Speaker 1: necessarily in big numbers for primaries.

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Speaker 4: What does it take for you to beat.

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Speaker 1: An incumbent senator who certainly is going to have a

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Speaker 1: lot of money as well? Well.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we've already done three polls with three different polsters.

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Speaker 6: I did one with Trump's polster that had me up

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Speaker 6: by twenty five. I did one with Ted Cruiz's bolster

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Speaker 6: that has me twenty five, and we did a third

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Speaker 6: one just to make sure it's twenty seven. So the votors,

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Speaker 6: I mean a lot of it's already baked in. They

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Speaker 6: know John Corny's been an officer for over forty years.

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Speaker 6: They know me. I've been in office for in the

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Speaker 6: Attorney General's office for eleven years now, and so I

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Speaker 6: think the primary voters are really educated. I feel very

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Speaker 6: strongly that we are going to do well everywhere, and

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Speaker 6: it's it's all based on record, and he's going to

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Speaker 6: have to spend the seaton. His record is not what

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Speaker 6: the voters want. He's not going to be talking about

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Speaker 6: his record. He's not going to be talking about mine,

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Speaker 6: because my record is a record that the voters like.

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Speaker 6: He's going to be going negative personally. That's that's his

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Speaker 6: a lot of attack, and he's got to pray that

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Speaker 6: somehow Trump does not that he endorses him, because that

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Speaker 6: would be his only way of getting into the game,

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Speaker 6: and he's still going to lose.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's possible he drops out, decides not

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Speaker 1: to run.

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Speaker 6: Look, I don't presume anything, he says he's running I'm playing.

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Speaker 6: I'm playing this for you know. I'm going to run

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Speaker 6: against John Corny, So that would be a great question

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Speaker 6: for him. I'm sure no matter what he's thinking in

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Speaker 6: his head, it's got across his mind. If he's that

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Speaker 6: far down, he's pulled that he knows that he's behind

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Speaker 6: by double digits. And look, I've been to the Republican conventions.

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Speaker 6: The last time he spoke that he dared to speak

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Speaker 6: to the Republican voters, that was three years ago. He

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Speaker 6: got booed for thirty straight minutes. And I'm not talking

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Speaker 6: to quiet boos. I'm talking loudly booed for thirty minutes.

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Speaker 6: And that was all based on what he did with

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Speaker 6: the restrictions on on gun ownership in our state.

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Speaker 7: Tourney.

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Speaker 5: General Packson, appreciate you being with us, sir. Best luck

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Speaker 5: to you. We'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 6: Hey, have a great day. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 5: We are joined now by Mike Gallagher. He is head

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Speaker 5: of defense at Palentier. He's got a really interesting piece

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Speaker 5: in the Wall Street Journal Time for Accountability on the

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Speaker 5: COVID lab leak cover up? Mike, appreciate you making the

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Speaker 5: time for us.

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Speaker 7: What's an honor to be with you.

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Speaker 5: Let's just jump into it. You got into this in

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Speaker 5: your piece. What does accountability look like? What does the

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Speaker 5: public need to know? What steps have to be taken?

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Speaker 5: Now when it comes to the lab leak cover up?

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Speaker 5: I see, I love that there's a picture of Fauci

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Speaker 5: touching a little fake virus in your op ed.

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Speaker 4: He's the absolute worst. What needs to happen.

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Speaker 7: Well, I can't claim credit for the artwork that comes

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Speaker 7: with these op eds. I just do the words. But

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Speaker 7: it was it was quite nice to me. It just

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Speaker 7: starts with the basic step of complete declassification of relevant

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Speaker 7: and intelligence. If you remember, we actually passed the law

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Speaker 7: when I was in Congress requiring that the Biden administration

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Speaker 7: do just that, but they didn't comply with the law.

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Speaker 7: When they finally did an investigation into the origins of COVID,

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Speaker 7: it was not serious. What came out was heavily redacted.

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Speaker 7: It was a regurgitation of the prevailing consensus. And so

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Speaker 7: there's been no accountability for our own scientific establishment, which

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Speaker 7: was profoundly corrupted. Our own intelligence community was parroting the

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Speaker 7: corrupted consensus of the scientists, and even the authors of

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Speaker 7: the proximal Origins article, which spread a lot of this

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Speaker 7: misinformation have not been held accountable. If the opposite has happened,

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Speaker 7: they continue to get awards. Fauci continues to be lauded,

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Speaker 7: and we have centers named after Fauci. And without that

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Speaker 7: basic step of accountability, people just aren't going to trust

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Speaker 7: the government. They're not going to trust the health institutions,

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Speaker 7: the scientific institutions, and therefore were less prepared to prevent

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Speaker 7: a future pandemic. So I think accountabilit all these starts

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Speaker 7: with getting the information out there, even if it's super

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Speaker 7: embarrassing to the government. Agencies that allow tax dayer dollars

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Speaker 7: to be fundled, funneled to corrupt nonprofits like the Eco

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Speaker 7: Health Alliance and wind their way into the hands of

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Speaker 7: the Luhan Institute of Virology, there's been no accountability thus far.

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Speaker 1: That's why I read your piece and I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: coming on with us. I know how busy you are

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Speaker 1: in your new job, and we'll talk about that maybe

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Speaker 1: in a moment, but trump for people who do not know,

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Speaker 1: I encourage you to go to COVID dot gov today

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Speaker 1: and look at everything that's being laid out there. We're

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Speaker 1: five years after COVID, and Buck and I focus on

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Speaker 1: this a lot because we're kind of history nerds, and

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Speaker 1: one of the good things about time passing is over time,

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Speaker 1: history I like to think becomes more honest about what

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Speaker 1: really transpired. Are you optimistic that twenty forty years from

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Speaker 1: now will get a more honest version of what happened

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Speaker 1: and the failures of this nation when it comes to

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Speaker 1: responding to COVID in generations ahead? Or do you think

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Speaker 1: the same people that are trying to stop us now

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Speaker 1: will continue to fight for generations into the future to

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Speaker 1: avoid acknowledging how wrong they were.

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Speaker 7: Well, I would only say I don't think we have twenty,

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Speaker 7: let alone forty years right. We had a report a

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Speaker 7: few months ago that in February, researchers that the will

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Speaker 7: had Ince Vivirology had experimented with a new bat coronavirus

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Speaker 7: that looked a lot similar to COVID nineteen. What you

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Speaker 7: learn is you sort of dig into the nature of

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Speaker 7: what happened in Muhan, but lab accidents more broadly is

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Speaker 7: that these are actually more common than we realize, and

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Speaker 7: so part of the push for accountability is based on

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Speaker 7: the idea that the risks of a pandemic like the

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Speaker 7: one we went through with COVID nineteen or with one

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Speaker 7: that could be far worse if a future virus were

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Speaker 7: just as pathenogenic or more lethal. Rather, those risks have

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Speaker 7: not gone down. We haven't learned any lessons, and so

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Speaker 7: we need accountability on a year timeline, not a twenty

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Speaker 7: year time which is why I was very glad to

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Speaker 7: see that President Trump launched his website. I would encourage

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Speaker 7: all Americans to go to the website right now and

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Speaker 7: really lays out five basic common sense truths that the

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Speaker 7: government heretofore has not acknowledged. One the virus possessed biological

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Speaker 7: characteristics that you couldn't find in nature. To all the

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Speaker 7: data suggests it stems from a single introduction into humans,

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Speaker 7: not multiple spillovers like previous pandemics. Three, That the Wuhan

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Speaker 7: Institute had conducted gain to function research at an adequate

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Speaker 7: safety levels, or that the researchers at the Wuhan It's

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Speaker 7: Too fell ill with COVID months before the virus was

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Speaker 7: allegedly discovered at a web market and finally, after all

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Speaker 7: these years, there's no scientific evidence of a natural origin

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Speaker 7: that has surfaced. That alone has done more to advance

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Speaker 7: the case of accountability than under four years of President Biden.

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Speaker 7: So we need to press the gas. We need to

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Speaker 7: hold our own agencies accountable, and again we need to

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Speaker 7: declassify all the relevant information.

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Speaker 5: Mike, I wanted to pivot a little bit here and

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Speaker 5: lean into another area of expertise, something you're dealing with

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Speaker 5: day in and day out now as head of Defense

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Speaker 5: at Palenteer Technologies. I think one of the lessons that

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Speaker 5: anybody paying attention to what's going on over in Ukraine

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Speaker 5: with Russia, and especially if they're looking ahead at the

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Speaker 5: possibility at some point in the future of some kind

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Speaker 5: of hot conflict with China, is technology is going.

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Speaker 4: To be absolutely critical.

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Speaker 5: We're looking at drones, We're looking at a future of

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Speaker 5: telecommunications and high speed computing making decisions on the battlefield.

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Speaker 5: That is truly the stuff of sci fi from not

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Speaker 5: long ago, and it's it's becoming reality now every day.

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Speaker 5: But with that said, I know Palenteers involved in the

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Speaker 5: high tech edge of things with defense.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't long.

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Speaker 5: Ago where Google was upset there was like an uprising

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Speaker 5: at good Google over the prospect of doing anything that

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Speaker 5: helped the United States Pentagon, right, like as if Silicon

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Speaker 5: Valley was its own little thief toom that did not

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Speaker 5: actually become or was not actually a part of the

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Speaker 5: United States. Do you feel like that is changing now?

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Speaker 5: Do you feel like there's an understanding that companies that

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Speaker 5: are US based, that employee Americans have a role in

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Speaker 5: defense and that means that they should take a patriotic

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Speaker 5: position on Yeah, we will work with the United States Pentagon.

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Speaker 7: I think it is changing. I mean Google has actually

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Speaker 7: recently changed its position. And if you remember at the time,

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Speaker 7: the reason so many of us got upset when Google

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Speaker 7: abandoned Project Maven is they were simultaneously trying to work

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Speaker 7: with China AI exactly an AI center in Beijing. It

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Speaker 7: was substantly revealed there was a project that they did abandon,

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Speaker 7: but a project they were exploring to censor Internet search

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Speaker 7: in China. So the message was, well, We're cool working

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Speaker 7: with a genocidal communist regime, but not with the American military,

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Speaker 7: because the American military occasionally has to do things like

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Speaker 7: kill Salacity Jahadis in order to keep America safe, and

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Speaker 7: so into the brief steps Talenteer, which was unapologetic in

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Speaker 7: its belief that America is the greatest country in the

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Speaker 7: history of the world, that we should have the most

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Speaker 7: lethal military in the world, and that some folks, be

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Speaker 7: they terrorists or other bad guys, need to be killed occasionally.

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Speaker 7: And I do think what we're seeing on the battlefield

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Speaker 7: in Ukraine is forcing people to re examine their previously

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Speaker 7: held assumptions. There's a lot of capital in the venture

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Speaker 7: capital community that is trying to flow into defense technology companies.

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Speaker 7: And finally, I would say not to talk to my

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Speaker 7: own book, but when you have a company like Palenter

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Speaker 7: that spent two decades trying to survive the so called

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Speaker 7: Valley of Death because it isn't easy for a defense

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Speaker 7: technology company to succeed because the Pentagon can be a

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Speaker 7: difficult customer, it proves to other companies that are trying

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Speaker 7: to do the same that it's possible to survive, it's

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Speaker 7: possible to go public, it's possible to have a mission

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Speaker 7: focused company that also is successful financially, which is why

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Speaker 7: we founded something called the First Breakfast Initiative, which is

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Speaker 7: designed to make it easier for non traditional defense technology

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Speaker 7: companies to survive and thrive because we need more. Right,

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Speaker 7: we can't just have five primes that control everything. We

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Speaker 7: need the primes to survive. They're always going to be there,

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Speaker 7: but we need a more diverse ecosystem of defense technology

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Speaker 7: companies if we are going to have a hope of

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Speaker 7: deterring China from invading Taiwan, as well as simultaneously going

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Speaker 7: after terrorist in the Middle East and the other threat actors,

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Speaker 7: we have to deal with.

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Speaker 1: What you just said I think is important and also

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Speaker 1: to me connects with your editorial in the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 1: which is about the importance of truth and the commitment

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Speaker 1: to fact. When you see so much of what's going

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Speaker 1: on in America today and around the world, whether it's

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Speaker 1: celebrating the United Healthcare CEOs killer, whether it is down

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Speaker 1: in Frisco, Texas, Carmelo Anthony stabs a seventeen year old

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Speaker 1: in the heart and raises four hundred thousand dollars. As

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned, so many of these elite institutions out

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Speaker 1: there had people marching in favor of the perpetrators of

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Speaker 1: October seventh. Why are we having such a difference. This

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Speaker 1: is a big philosophical question, But why do you think

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Speaker 1: we're having such a challenge, especially going into the Holy

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Speaker 1: week of good and evil recognizing them and being willing

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Speaker 1: to stand on the side of good.

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Speaker 7: Well, I do think, you know, to really take it,

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Speaker 7: make it biblical, and maybe betray my Catholic perspective. I

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Speaker 7: do think as religion has retreated in terms of its

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Speaker 7: role in American life, people have sought out other gods,

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Speaker 7: and in some ways, politics or you know, a political

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Speaker 7: tribe can become a cult and still kind of a

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Speaker 7: God shaped whole in people's hearts. And I think correspondingly,

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Speaker 7: there's also this epistemological crisis that we have in America

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Speaker 7: where people no longer trust any source of information. Right Like,

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Speaker 7: we have this very bald organized media landscape where nobody

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Speaker 7: really knows where to go to get truth. And the

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Speaker 7: risk of that is people can kind of opt in

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Speaker 7: to whatever reality they just want to live in, and

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Speaker 7: it's very hard to have a coherent conversation based on facts,

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Speaker 7: based on logic. As a result that being said, you know,

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Speaker 7: as a product of representing northeast Wisconsin, where we're going

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Speaker 7: to host the NFL drafts here shortly by the way

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Speaker 7: everybody I'll watching.

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Speaker 4: I'm very excited.

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Speaker 7: It's a huge, huge thing for Green Bay, Wisconsin, a

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Speaker 7: huge thing, you know. I think most people are just

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Speaker 7: common sense, right there was this revolution of common sense

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Speaker 7: that President Trump talked about. I mean, people were afraid

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Speaker 7: initially to speak their minds, you know, particularly in COVID.

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Speaker 7: But people started to see what was happening to our

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Speaker 7: kids with schools being shut down, was happened to our

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Speaker 7: loved ones who were being locked up, and they thought,

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Speaker 7: this doesn't make any sense. So I do have this

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Speaker 7: abiding faith in the common sense of the American people

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Speaker 7: right now. They're demanding change and reform in the basic

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Speaker 7: institutions of government. I think Trump is an instrument for

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Speaker 7: that change. It can be very disruptive at times, that's

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Speaker 7: what the American people want. So we have to get

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Speaker 7: back to that. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 7: like we have to realize, of course, America is not perfect,

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Speaker 7: but we're the good guys, right We are the greatest

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Speaker 7: country in human history. That comes with a great responsibility.

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Speaker 7: But the rest of the world is looking to us

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Speaker 7: for leadership to leave with courage. If you remember when

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Speaker 7: China took over Hong Kong and hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 7: people came out into the streets to protest. What were

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Speaker 7: they waving? They were waving American flags, right. They were

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Speaker 7: looking to us as an example for a free society,

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Speaker 7: and that's something we all have a duty to maintain.

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Speaker 1: Well said, have a good Holy Week and weekend, and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again, hopefully soon. Encourage people to

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Speaker 1: go check out that editorial in the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 7: Thanks Jav