WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Draft Intensive 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:04.840 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:12.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:17.040 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:22.320 official Dallas Cowboys apt now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:29.880 and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are. It's time for 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.400 another edition of mix Shots inside the s WBC podcast 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:39.440 studio here at the Star in Frisco. It is Thursday, 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:45.400 April fourteenth, and we are two weeks away from Draft 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:50.159 day on Thursday April twenty eighth. I'm sorry, um, something's 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:55.120 gone here. What's tromp? No? No partition? Number one number? 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.160 Where's the music? No intro? Did y'all lose the hotel? 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.400 I don't know what happened, Chris. Maybe we're just not 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.840 hearing the music. I gotta do my look. You know 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.280 that tells you how long it's been since you've guess. 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.640 So the partitions went away and then they came back, 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.960 I know, and then they went away, went away away 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.959 last week and we've been away. I like the music, man, 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.320 come get you, and we haven't done the music in 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:21.759 like two months. So where have you been? Come on? Man, 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:26.160 that's not true. That is not true true. I like 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.040 the music, man, Why do we get do away? Right? 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:39.040 So I will know not that music, I'll make up music. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.640 And I've been carrying this around with me for three weeks. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.520 I went through some old stuff and I found this, 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:53.160 and I figured you would enjoy it more. You said 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:58.120 you had something. Oh yeah, that's big. Do we want 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:02.160 to explain what this is? Yeah, it's the front page 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:06.400 of the sports section of the Saint Petersburg Times at 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:11.400 the time of Super Bowl twenty four Everson Walls of 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:16.800 New York Giant, A giant thriller twenty nineteen. Just so 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:23.080 you know, who's the picture of Norwood? That is Myron 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.680 Guiding all right. And there is an inside story and 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.959 there's quotes from Everson on one of the stories. Oh yes, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.800 I figured you would enjoy that. I had it in 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:38.560 a pile of old newspapers. So you're giving it to him? 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.800 It's his Well, you know the thing. I appreciate this 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.720 very much. Spaks for Will because I figured he wouldn't 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.120 have that. I finally say, can you get rid of 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:56.960 these newspapers fire had? Oh no, you should see the 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.400 stuff I have. By the way, no, I what this 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.720 did for real when they said, thanks guys, we needed this. 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.520 You know, the country was really trippered at the time. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.240 It's under the paper. Yeah, and no, this is my fun. 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:15.280 Yeah it was. And excuse me watch ye I'm not 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.880 as old as I look. Okay, but now we talked 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.360 about it was important. I talked about the you know, 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.960 the golf war at the time. No, yea. Not only 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:27.200 was the golf war going. I remember before the game, 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.600 the helicopter it was a no fly zone and the 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:36.080 helicopters were flying overhead and the doors were open and 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:40.480 the turrets were sticking out. Is that crazy? As they 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.600 were flying, I could see the guns. That was the 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.480 first That was the beginning of of the you know, 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:50.960 major security. Yeah, long lines now and everything with the 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.360 winds and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, and 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.800 it didn't matter who won the game. What they meant 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.880 what we needed play the game, good game. I need 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:03.080 a good good game, and exact yours. Thank you, don't 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.080 throw it away. I will not tell my own guy, 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.720 and I have him in my house. There you go, 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:13.040 all right, got anything for me? I gave you yours, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:16.800 but you already had one. The draft guy that's right there. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.120 It is show the show the folks out there, the 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.599 draft guy. As a matter of fact, here's draw Boys 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.719 Star Magazine. And by the way, if you go on 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:30.520 Dallas Cowboys dot com and go to uh Star magazine, 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.400 UH twenty percent off so you can get the print 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.600 copy now sent to you within two business days for 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.280 nine nine nine. All right, all right, very good. So 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:44.080 you can have your very own ki of something to 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:50.360 give you. No, you can't have it. Look at official 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.600 introduction today. I'm glad I made it today. This is 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:57.359 a good strike. And if you've got forty three billion dollars, 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:01.279 you can buy the Green NFL Draft Scotty notebook, or 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:05.000 you can buy Twitter, which the value of everyone in book. Yes, 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.560 I want the Big Green, or I want you want? 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.320 You want to buy Twitter? Or do would you like 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:16.000 to buy the Big Green? How about you selling the 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:22.240 shares for you and Mark Cuban going after Twitter? Yeah? Anyway, 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.800 all right, what do you want to get into? First? 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.599 Two weeks out from the draft. Two weeks out from 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.239 the draft, visits are all taken care of the board, 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:35.120 all put together. I think it's close, okay, Usually uh 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:41.839 that board gets together. Um so we're two weeks away. 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:47.240 Usually gets together before that. You enter the last week, 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.200 so around let's see the drafts the twenty eighth, So 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.520 around the twenty third or so, the board would be 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.479 put together, probably like to get it done before the 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:03.000 weekend before the draft exactly. And then what they normally 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:06.119 do that week of the draft is they start doing 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:10.760 their own mock drafts and start picking and having different 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.719 scenarios play out and say, okay, if we get to 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.320 this pick at this time, what do we do if 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.080 this is available? Uh, Jerry was at, get on those 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:25.719 those mock draft simulators online, play it out? Yeah, yeah, no, 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.560 they are. They just I know you're a big fan 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:33.400 of the Pro Football Focus mock drafts. You know, I 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.800 was looking at it. I was looking at that. I 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.760 was you know, you asked me to do some NFL 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.760 draft stuff and I saw the PFF of the lay up. No, 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:49.040 not another you know, and they'll go through it and 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:53.080 appoint somebody for each team and then they'll they'll do 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:55.960 their own mock with the you know, the scouts and 0:06:56.279 --> 0:07:00.760 coaches or whatever. Um. You know. Jerry was at yesterday 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:08.800 during the Blockchain dot Com Press Conference Cowboys in partnership 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:14.520 with a cryptocurrency company if they would trade up in 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:19.200 the draft. And I wrote down his exact quote because 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.640 I knew somebody would kind of say, oh, yeah, Jerry 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.360 said they're going to trade up. And his exact quote was, 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.800 I would trade up since we are down as low 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.400 as we are in those first two or three rounds. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:35.240 So he didn't say the first round. He meant the 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:41.400 first two days. And they should be thinking that they 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:46.400 could do that. They've got four fifth round picks. If 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.600 you're not moving to have a fourth round or two 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.240 and a fourth rounder, you're not moving too far. You 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:55.360 could jump a few picks even in the you know 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.840 you're at twenty four, you can get to twenty two 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.760 twenty without giving up your draft because what you can 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.320 do is like in the case of now he alluded 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.720 to the Frederick but yeah, it was a trade down, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.720 but it wasn't died. Yeah, now, DeMarcus Lawrence was a 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.200 trade up right to the top of the second round. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.600 So let's say you make your your pick at twenty 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.280 four and then started Day two, you package your third 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.520 rounder and your second rounder and move up to the 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.200 top of the second round or your fourth and if 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:27.600 what I was gonna know, But what I was gonna say, 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:32.360 you can package because you've got those four fifth rounds picks, right, 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.840 you can do what you did in the Lawrence trade, 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.440 which is package a three and a two to move 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.000 up to thirty four, okay, and make your pick and 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.760 get your guy that you had maybe even had a 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.200 first round grade, which is almost the first round pick. 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.200 That's right, especially in this draft that as deep as 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.520 this draft is, there's so many players in this draft, 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.680 and then you can make up your third round pick 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.440 by packaging your fourth. And even if it takes a 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.880 couple of those fits to get into the third round, 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.680 I think you still want as many top one hundred 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.319 players as you can get, right, and at this point 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:08.400 they've got three, twenty four, fifty six, and eighty eight. 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.720 But the power of those four fifth round picks is 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.600 you can package a third in a second to move 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.000 up in the second, and then you can get back 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.800 into the third right by using those fifth round picks 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.800 with the fourth to move in right exactly. And in 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.280 the fifth they got pick four picks between one fifty 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.080 five and one seventy eight, So yeah, they're good picks, 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.360 and so you just gotta let it play out. You 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.760 don't go in saying yeah, we're gonna move up. You 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.400 got to see what's available. And I would imagine when 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:43.640 they get close to twenty four or at twenty four, 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:48.240 with the number of needs they have, and we can 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:51.640 talk about what the top three or four are, there's 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.680 gonna be a player there that they would be interested in. 0:09:55.280 --> 0:10:01.800 This is a deep draft for offensive lineman, for wide receivers, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:06.520 for defensive ends. Um, so yeah, they've got enough needs 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.520 to spread around that you know there'll be something there. 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.960 And I don't know if unless somebody falls right in 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:19.960 their category of need. Uh, you know, they could be 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:25.040 very flexible and use whatever based based on the abundance 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.760 of talent. It seems like that's a possibility, right right. 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.319 I mean, because you have so much talent in this draft, 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.959 and I I you know, defensive line, defensive end. That 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:39.199 could be that defensive tackle there that you say, I guess, 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.000 can't pass this guy up. You know, I may not 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:46.880 need him as a need. But boys at the guy 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.200 from we talked about it last week, the guy from Georgia. 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:56.720 Which one, right, the one that's not as good. They're 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.959 all as good. They're all as good is it Jordan Davis. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.480 But Davonte Wyatt. Now, Jordan Davis is six six, three 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:07.040 hundred and forty one pounds. Uh, he's your one technique. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:13.839 Anybody runs a four seven eight. Yeah, Davonte Wyatt is 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:18.840 sixty three, three hundred five pounds, and he's your three technique. 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.240 And he's got a quick first step. And they're projecting 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.000 him going about earlier, right, either one. I mean they're 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.880 either way, depending on what your need is. Now, they're both, 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.880 they're both projected around. In fact, Dame Bruegler has them 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.160 back to back with his twenty third and twenty fourth 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:38.280 overall ranked players. Now others have Jordan Davis ranked higher 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:43.120 around fifteen or so. But I mean it's still it's 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.640 it's still in the ballpark of where the Cowboys are 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.560 at twenty four. And I did print out, and I 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:53.240 was looking to see where Gil Brandt he had his top. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.640 I haven't seen his Okay top one hundred. He had 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:04.880 Jordan Davis at nineteen. Um, I might have missed Wyatt. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.200 Let's see if I missed him, but he had he 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:18.320 had them ranked awfully high, with some people already have 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:23.680 him ranked in the twenties. White. Yeah, right, man, you 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.079 know they don't necessarily have him going that that fun 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.760 now Like Daniel Jeremiah has Davante Wyatt as his number 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.440 two defensive tackle twenty ninth overall. Brugler's got him as 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.599 his number he Brugler actually has Wyatt ranked ahead of 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.040 Jordan Davis his number one defensive tackle twenty three overall, 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:46.000 and Jordan Davis. Jeremiah's got him seventeenth, number one overall 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:49.840 defensive tackle and Bruglers got him twenty fourth, so they're 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.880 in the same ball. He'll had him at forty five. 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.280 Got who Wyatt? Yeah? Wyatt? Yeah, So that's a little 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.959 bit low, Yeah from what I saw. But hey, our 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:04.080 guy and Winfrey was forty eight. Okay. And by the way, 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.640 I think we missed this and maybe we didn't, but 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:13.960 on March fourth, Gil turned ninety years Wow. Wow, we 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.520 did miss that. I did because I talked to him 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:20.600 last a week ago today and you know, we were 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.360 talking about how they ended up, and we talked about 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.600 it yesterday or last week. I think how they ended 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.400 up with way Raphael right, like Hannah Hell, did they 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:34.760 know some guy from Fort Valley State? Right where? Hell 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.320 did he come from. That's when the Cowboys were at them. 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.560 Well you know, and well maybe because I talked to 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.880 him after this show on Thursday, so he said, well, 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.000 we were ahead of everybody because what we did back 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:54.599 then is we found a coach at schools in different areas, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:59.600 at the HBCU schools, and we paid them one hundred dollars, 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.840 like one hundred dollars for the year, and they were 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:08.440 our scouts for guys that we might not have our 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:12.280 scouts might not have seen. And just so happened that 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:18.360 Rayfield's coach at Fort Valley State, Stan Lomax, was their guy, 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:22.360 and they basically heard from him. It's like, hey, you 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.760 need to look at this guy as an athlete. He goes, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.160 I'm not sure what position he's at, but he's an athlete. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.920 And that happened with two Tall Jones the year before 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.680 because a lot of people didn't know that two Tall 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.920 was or actually it would have been seventy no, no, 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:42.440 it was seventy four. A lot of people didn't know 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.840 that he was eligible for the draft. A lot of 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.400 people thought he had one more year and he didn't, 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.160 and so the Cowboys made the pick. Everyone said, wait, 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:55.480 we thought oh, you can't do that. And the coach 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:59.640 there told him no, wait, he he actually played this year, 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:03.160 that it wasn't account that's unfair. What a second, Yeah, 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.160 hey man, you gotta watch those HBCUs records might not 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.640 be as especially as you know. And he was down 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:13.360 there and he said, once a year they would bring 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.960 all these guys in and and have like a you know, 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.520 a little get together, and you know, he goes or 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.840 we'd go out on the road and buy them lunch, 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.480 and and they would help us with guys like rayfield Wright, 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:30.600 who UH thought he was going to play basketball until um, 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.040 you know, the Cowboys, uh offered. And even when he 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.120 came here, he had no idea I was going. He 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:41.120 basically told me. He told me, uh during that interview Bill. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.160 I found the interview we had with him up in 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:47.560 the Cowboys club and and he said basically that he 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.800 didn't think he was gonna make it in football. They 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.360 drafted him in the seventh round. So he said, well, 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:57.360 the Cowboys UH treenty camp began the middle of July, 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.000 and I figured, Okay, I'll go to that and then 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.400 when I get cut the training camp for the Cincinnati 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:09.760 Royals and NBA started and it goes, I'll just play 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.560 basketball when with the big Oh you know what. I 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.080 went back and listened to that whole show. It was. 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:19.480 It was an all timer, not because of us, because 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.760 of Rayphiel opening up about his background. So where did 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:29.040 you find it? I googled Cowboys Legend show Rayphiel. Right, Okay, 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:30.880 I'm gonna do the same, and I'll tweet it out. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.280 And it was really good. And by the way, his 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:40.560 memorial service is tomorrow. Passed away at seventy six. Did 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:44.960 you know when you knew he had some seizures and 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.240 that he was struggling, And the last thing I heard 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:52.240 was it didn't look good, And obviously he didn't. And 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.720 it's a shame because he was. He was a great guy. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.040 He goes all the way back for us in Hamilton Park. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:01.440 You know they would come down, you know, all the 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.359 old school guys. They come to Gray but there was 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.080 the Grahams barber shop. Okay, that was the main thing. 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.800 That's where they come get a haircut. Because of course, 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.600 the practice facility was over there, right up the street 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.600 a couple of miles for US landon Aples and we 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.040 were right there for US Lane six thirty five, and 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:19.760 so they just come right down the street a couple 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.000 of miles and uh, ray Field right was there. Jethville 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:26.520 Pe was big in Hamilton Park and of course Dorset. 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.159 As we got older, Doorset would come down all the 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:30.520 time and get his hair cut and that was like 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:35.000 celebrity role man. People be outside, you know, just kind 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.120 of talking with him, and it was no big deal 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.000 back in the day. That was got such a long 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.600 time ago. They come, they run through and even when 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:45.080 I made the team, ray Field was like, hey, is 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:49.560 your mom miss Walls? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was there. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.080 I remember seeing big guys, but I can't necessarily say 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.240 that I could know that was I could have thought 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.480 that it could be Jethroll Pufall, I know, you know, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.399 but at that time they were just big eyes down. 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:04.000 There would have been Willie towns and towns for big 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.480 time minutes in Hamiltons Park. Did he really Yes? Now 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.680 they some of them will come to our churches. Doug Dennison, 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:12.360 you know, was a was a member of Hamilton Park 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.760 First Baptist Church for a minute. Huh. So, yeah, we 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.560 had some some cowboys. They are always connected to the cowboys. 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:20.840 So when I made it, you know, it was like, okay, 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.679 this is you know, and all those guys Willie Towns, 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.800 Jethro Pugh, ray Field, they stayed here after they're playing 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:32.480 day Yeah. Yes, so anyway, yeah and so yeah ray Field. Uh, 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.159 it was it was a really really good show. And 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.560 he did tell us the story about his one catch 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.960 he had as a tight end, and he talked about 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:45.359 how he lined up here and Bob Hayes lined up there, 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.919 and uh, you know, Meredith ended up throwing him the 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.280 pass over the middle. I found I actually found the 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.800 video of it and it was a fifteen yard touchdown pass. 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.600 He went in untouched, right. I saw that and he 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:02.280 said did they show that? Uh, they've shown that before. Yeah, 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:06.040 and uh he said the years later, he went up 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.680 to Meredith. They were at some function. He says, hey, 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:12.159 don do you remember throwing me that touchdown pass? And 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.359 he goes, oh, hell, Raphael, I wasn't throwing the ball 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.119 to you. You were so tall you jumped up and 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.520 got in the way. I was trying to throw it 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:26.639 to Bob Hays. So anyway, it was. It was a 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:30.160 good walk down his memory lane, by the way, all right, 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.600 and I have found it. And so in the next break, 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.560 I will tweet it out. Okay, that sounds good. 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Call now two one four two two 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:17.040 five four eight six h K Post company dot com. 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:22.600 All right, and I tweeted out the show from the 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:26.200 Cowboys legend show that Mickey was referring to with Rayfield 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:30.159 right at CBS eleven, Bill Jones, you can take a 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.760 look at that, and after you listen to mix Shots. 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:37.439 That's right, and call in eight eight eight eight five 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.080 five two two nine seven. All right, there you go. 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:45.199 We're taking phone calls since Everson's not hogging up the line. Right, 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.879 all right, very good, I'm here today. All right, all right. 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:53.080 Positions of need for the Cowboys, they are a plenty, yes, 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:57.560 and I think we probably could each pick one and 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:00.680 we'll be right. Okay, So we're gonna be I'm gonna 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:03.600 pick a position I'm going to pick a position of Okay, 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.560 are you saying that with the first round pick first 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.960 you would like to see a player at this position picked? Right? 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:15.280 And again, second and third round still could be addressed 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.440 if you didn't do it in the first round. And 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.440 this is sort of probably I'm tipping my hand what 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:25.040 I'm going to write about for tomorrow. But my need, 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.720 and there's plenty of them. I think in the first 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:32.159 round will be wide receiver Gee with a surprise, and 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:41.040 we've already had that discussion with Everson, and my priority 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:46.119 is since they've got Ceedee, Lamb, are you going to 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:49.320 hair ours for then we will discuss Yes, go ahead, Everson, 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.440 you go next first round. We're talking first round, paid 0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:56.840 for the downs Cowboys, all right? You know where I stand. 0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.240 You know, I love the excitement of the wide receivers 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:01.439 and all of that, But when we talk about our 0:24:01.480 --> 0:24:03.480 running game and the lack thereof at the end of 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.600 the season, we talked about the four man rush that's 0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:11.040 getting to our quarterback. I have to go with an 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:15.080 offensive tackle, all right, and the one that I see 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:21.120 right now is Trevor Penning from Northern High one offensive tackle. 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:25.560 He's a stud He's nasty. He's nasty, and that's what 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:29.720 you need out there. Man. He's six feet six inches tall, 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:34.600 three hundred and thirty pounds wing spands what eighty three inches? 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.479 Oh my god, that's that's a lot because hands are 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:41.040 ten and a quarter. That's huge. This is what you need, guys, 0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.159 this is what you need. You guys want to go 0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:45.159