Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys apt now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are. It's time for
Speaker 1: another edition of mix Shots inside the s WBC podcast
Speaker 1: studio here at the Star in Frisco. It is Thursday,
Speaker 1: April fourteenth, and we are two weeks away from Draft
Speaker 1: day on Thursday April twenty eighth. I'm sorry, um, something's
Speaker 1: gone here. What's tromp? No? No partition? Number one number?
Speaker 1: Where's the music? No intro? Did y'all lose the hotel?
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, Chris. Maybe we're just not
Speaker 1: hearing the music. I gotta do my look. You know
Speaker 1: that tells you how long it's been since you've guess.
Speaker 1: So the partitions went away and then they came back,
Speaker 1: I know, and then they went away, went away away
Speaker 1: last week and we've been away. I like the music, man,
Speaker 1: come get you, and we haven't done the music in
Speaker 1: like two months. So where have you been? Come on? Man,
Speaker 1: that's not true. That is not true true. I like
Speaker 1: the music, man, Why do we get do away? Right?
Speaker 1: So I will know not that music, I'll make up music.
Speaker 1: And I've been carrying this around with me for three weeks.
Speaker 1: I went through some old stuff and I found this,
Speaker 1: and I figured you would enjoy it more. You said
Speaker 1: you had something. Oh yeah, that's big. Do we want
Speaker 1: to explain what this is? Yeah, it's the front page
Speaker 1: of the sports section of the Saint Petersburg Times at
Speaker 1: the time of Super Bowl twenty four Everson Walls of
Speaker 1: New York Giant, A giant thriller twenty nineteen. Just so
Speaker 1: you know, who's the picture of Norwood? That is Myron
Speaker 1: Guiding all right. And there is an inside story and
Speaker 1: there's quotes from Everson on one of the stories. Oh yes,
Speaker 1: I figured you would enjoy that. I had it in
Speaker 1: a pile of old newspapers. So you're giving it to him?
Speaker 1: It's his Well, you know the thing. I appreciate this
Speaker 1: very much. Spaks for Will because I figured he wouldn't
Speaker 1: have that. I finally say, can you get rid of
Speaker 1: these newspapers fire had? Oh no, you should see the
Speaker 1: stuff I have. By the way, no, I what this
Speaker 1: did for real when they said, thanks guys, we needed this.
Speaker 1: You know, the country was really trippered at the time.
Speaker 1: It's under the paper. Yeah, and no, this is my fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. And excuse me watch ye I'm not
Speaker 1: as old as I look. Okay, but now we talked
Speaker 1: about it was important. I talked about the you know,
Speaker 1: the golf war at the time. No, yea. Not only
Speaker 1: was the golf war going. I remember before the game,
Speaker 1: the helicopter it was a no fly zone and the
Speaker 1: helicopters were flying overhead and the doors were open and
Speaker 1: the turrets were sticking out. Is that crazy? As they
Speaker 1: were flying, I could see the guns. That was the
Speaker 1: first That was the beginning of of the you know,
Speaker 1: major security. Yeah, long lines now and everything with the
Speaker 1: winds and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: it didn't matter who won the game. What they meant
Speaker 1: what we needed play the game, good game. I need
Speaker 1: a good good game, and exact yours. Thank you, don't
Speaker 1: throw it away. I will not tell my own guy,
Speaker 1: and I have him in my house. There you go,
Speaker 1: all right, got anything for me? I gave you yours,
Speaker 1: but you already had one. The draft guy that's right there.
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Speaker 1: you can buy Twitter, which the value of everyone in book. Yes,
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Speaker 1: You want to buy Twitter? Or do would you like
Speaker 1: to buy the Big Green? How about you selling the
Speaker 1: shares for you and Mark Cuban going after Twitter? Yeah? Anyway,
Speaker 1: all right, what do you want to get into? First?
Speaker 1: Two weeks out from the draft. Two weeks out from
Speaker 1: the draft, visits are all taken care of the board,
Speaker 1: all put together. I think it's close, okay, Usually uh
Speaker 1: that board gets together. Um so we're two weeks away.
Speaker 1: Usually gets together before that. You enter the last week,
Speaker 1: so around let's see the drafts the twenty eighth, So
Speaker 1: around the twenty third or so, the board would be
Speaker 1: put together, probably like to get it done before the
Speaker 1: weekend before the draft exactly. And then what they normally
Speaker 1: do that week of the draft is they start doing
Speaker 1: their own mock drafts and start picking and having different
Speaker 1: scenarios play out and say, okay, if we get to
Speaker 1: this pick at this time, what do we do if
Speaker 1: this is available? Uh, Jerry was at, get on those
Speaker 1: those mock draft simulators online, play it out? Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: they are. They just I know you're a big fan
Speaker 1: of the Pro Football Focus mock drafts. You know, I
Speaker 1: was looking at it. I was looking at that. I
Speaker 1: was you know, you asked me to do some NFL
Speaker 1: draft stuff and I saw the PFF of the lay up. No,
Speaker 1: not another you know, and they'll go through it and
Speaker 1: appoint somebody for each team and then they'll they'll do
Speaker 1: their own mock with the you know, the scouts and
Speaker 1: coaches or whatever. Um. You know. Jerry was at yesterday
Speaker 1: during the Blockchain dot Com Press Conference Cowboys in partnership
Speaker 1: with a cryptocurrency company if they would trade up in
Speaker 1: the draft. And I wrote down his exact quote because
Speaker 1: I knew somebody would kind of say, oh, yeah, Jerry
Speaker 1: said they're going to trade up. And his exact quote was,
Speaker 1: I would trade up since we are down as low
Speaker 1: as we are in those first two or three rounds.
Speaker 1: So he didn't say the first round. He meant the
Speaker 1: first two days. And they should be thinking that they
Speaker 1: could do that. They've got four fifth round picks. If
Speaker 1: you're not moving to have a fourth round or two
Speaker 1: and a fourth rounder, you're not moving too far. You
Speaker 1: could jump a few picks even in the you know
Speaker 1: you're at twenty four, you can get to twenty two
Speaker 1: twenty without giving up your draft because what you can
Speaker 1: do is like in the case of now he alluded
Speaker 1: to the Frederick but yeah, it was a trade down,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't died. Yeah, now, DeMarcus Lawrence was a
Speaker 1: trade up right to the top of the second round.
Speaker 1: So let's say you make your your pick at twenty
Speaker 1: four and then started Day two, you package your third
Speaker 1: rounder and your second rounder and move up to the
Speaker 1: top of the second round or your fourth and if
Speaker 1: what I was gonna know, But what I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: you can package because you've got those four fifth rounds picks, right,
Speaker 1: you can do what you did in the Lawrence trade,
Speaker 1: which is package a three and a two to move
Speaker 1: up to thirty four, okay, and make your pick and
Speaker 1: get your guy that you had maybe even had a
Speaker 1: first round grade, which is almost the first round pick.
Speaker 1: That's right, especially in this draft that as deep as
Speaker 1: this draft is, there's so many players in this draft,
Speaker 1: and then you can make up your third round pick
Speaker 1: by packaging your fourth. And even if it takes a
Speaker 1: couple of those fits to get into the third round,
Speaker 1: I think you still want as many top one hundred
Speaker 1: players as you can get, right, and at this point
Speaker 1: they've got three, twenty four, fifty six, and eighty eight.
Speaker 1: But the power of those four fifth round picks is
Speaker 1: you can package a third in a second to move
Speaker 1: up in the second, and then you can get back
Speaker 1: into the third right by using those fifth round picks
Speaker 1: with the fourth to move in right exactly. And in
Speaker 1: the fifth they got pick four picks between one fifty
Speaker 1: five and one seventy eight, So yeah, they're good picks,
Speaker 1: and so you just gotta let it play out. You
Speaker 1: don't go in saying yeah, we're gonna move up. You
Speaker 1: got to see what's available. And I would imagine when
Speaker 1: they get close to twenty four or at twenty four,
Speaker 1: with the number of needs they have, and we can
Speaker 1: talk about what the top three or four are, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a player there that they would be interested in.
Speaker 1: This is a deep draft for offensive lineman, for wide receivers,
Speaker 1: for defensive ends. Um, so yeah, they've got enough needs
Speaker 1: to spread around that you know there'll be something there.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if unless somebody falls right in
Speaker 1: their category of need. Uh, you know, they could be
Speaker 1: very flexible and use whatever based based on the abundance
Speaker 1: of talent. It seems like that's a possibility, right right.
Speaker 1: I mean, because you have so much talent in this draft,
Speaker 1: and I I you know, defensive line, defensive end. That
Speaker 1: could be that defensive tackle there that you say, I guess,
Speaker 1: can't pass this guy up. You know, I may not
Speaker 1: need him as a need. But boys at the guy
Speaker 1: from we talked about it last week, the guy from Georgia.
Speaker 1: Which one, right, the one that's not as good. They're
Speaker 1: all as good. They're all as good is it Jordan Davis.
Speaker 1: But Davonte Wyatt. Now, Jordan Davis is six six, three
Speaker 1: hundred and forty one pounds. Uh, he's your one technique.
Speaker 1: Anybody runs a four seven eight. Yeah, Davonte Wyatt is
Speaker 1: sixty three, three hundred five pounds, and he's your three technique.
Speaker 1: And he's got a quick first step. And they're projecting
Speaker 1: him going about earlier, right, either one. I mean they're
Speaker 1: either way, depending on what your need is. Now, they're both,
Speaker 1: they're both projected around. In fact, Dame Bruegler has them
Speaker 1: back to back with his twenty third and twenty fourth
Speaker 1: overall ranked players. Now others have Jordan Davis ranked higher
Speaker 1: around fifteen or so. But I mean it's still it's
Speaker 1: it's still in the ballpark of where the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: at twenty four. And I did print out, and I
Speaker 1: was looking to see where Gil Brandt he had his top.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen his Okay top one hundred. He had
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis at nineteen. Um, I might have missed Wyatt.
Speaker 1: Let's see if I missed him, but he had he
Speaker 1: had them ranked awfully high, with some people already have
Speaker 1: him ranked in the twenties. White. Yeah, right, man, you
Speaker 1: know they don't necessarily have him going that that fun
Speaker 1: now Like Daniel Jeremiah has Davante Wyatt as his number
Speaker 1: two defensive tackle twenty ninth overall. Brugler's got him as
Speaker 1: his number he Brugler actually has Wyatt ranked ahead of
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis his number one defensive tackle twenty three overall,
Speaker 1: and Jordan Davis. Jeremiah's got him seventeenth, number one overall
Speaker 1: defensive tackle and Bruglers got him twenty fourth, so they're
Speaker 1: in the same ball. He'll had him at forty five.
Speaker 1: Got who Wyatt? Yeah? Wyatt? Yeah, So that's a little
Speaker 1: bit low, Yeah from what I saw. But hey, our
Speaker 1: guy and Winfrey was forty eight. Okay. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I think we missed this and maybe we didn't, but
Speaker 1: on March fourth, Gil turned ninety years Wow. Wow, we
Speaker 1: did miss that. I did because I talked to him
Speaker 1: last a week ago today and you know, we were
Speaker 1: talking about how they ended up, and we talked about
Speaker 1: it yesterday or last week. I think how they ended
Speaker 1: up with way Raphael right, like Hannah Hell, did they
Speaker 1: know some guy from Fort Valley State? Right where? Hell
Speaker 1: did he come from. That's when the Cowboys were at them.
Speaker 1: Well you know, and well maybe because I talked to
Speaker 1: him after this show on Thursday, so he said, well,
Speaker 1: we were ahead of everybody because what we did back
Speaker 1: then is we found a coach at schools in different areas,
Speaker 1: at the HBCU schools, and we paid them one hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: like one hundred dollars for the year, and they were
Speaker 1: our scouts for guys that we might not have our
Speaker 1: scouts might not have seen. And just so happened that
Speaker 1: Rayfield's coach at Fort Valley State, Stan Lomax, was their guy,
Speaker 1: and they basically heard from him. It's like, hey, you
Speaker 1: need to look at this guy as an athlete. He goes,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what position he's at, but he's an athlete.
Speaker 1: And that happened with two Tall Jones the year before
Speaker 1: because a lot of people didn't know that two Tall
Speaker 1: was or actually it would have been seventy no, no,
Speaker 1: it was seventy four. A lot of people didn't know
Speaker 1: that he was eligible for the draft. A lot of
Speaker 1: people thought he had one more year and he didn't,
Speaker 1: and so the Cowboys made the pick. Everyone said, wait,
Speaker 1: we thought oh, you can't do that. And the coach
Speaker 1: there told him no, wait, he he actually played this year,
Speaker 1: that it wasn't account that's unfair. What a second, Yeah,
Speaker 1: hey man, you gotta watch those HBCUs records might not
Speaker 1: be as especially as you know. And he was down
Speaker 1: there and he said, once a year they would bring
Speaker 1: all these guys in and and have like a you know,
Speaker 1: a little get together, and you know, he goes or
Speaker 1: we'd go out on the road and buy them lunch,
Speaker 1: and and they would help us with guys like rayfield Wright,
Speaker 1: who UH thought he was going to play basketball until um,
Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys, uh offered. And even when he
Speaker 1: came here, he had no idea I was going. He
Speaker 1: basically told me. He told me, uh during that interview Bill.
Speaker 1: I found the interview we had with him up in
Speaker 1: the Cowboys club and and he said basically that he
Speaker 1: didn't think he was gonna make it in football. They
Speaker 1: drafted him in the seventh round. So he said, well,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys UH treenty camp began the middle of July,
Speaker 1: and I figured, Okay, I'll go to that and then
Speaker 1: when I get cut the training camp for the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Royals and NBA started and it goes, I'll just play
Speaker 1: basketball when with the big Oh you know what. I
Speaker 1: went back and listened to that whole show. It was.
Speaker 1: It was an all timer, not because of us, because
Speaker 1: of Rayphiel opening up about his background. So where did
Speaker 1: you find it? I googled Cowboys Legend show Rayphiel. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same, and I'll tweet it out.
Speaker 1: And it was really good. And by the way, his
Speaker 1: memorial service is tomorrow. Passed away at seventy six. Did
Speaker 1: you know when you knew he had some seizures and
Speaker 1: that he was struggling, And the last thing I heard
Speaker 1: was it didn't look good, And obviously he didn't. And
Speaker 1: it's a shame because he was. He was a great guy.
Speaker 1: He goes all the way back for us in Hamilton Park.
Speaker 1: You know they would come down, you know, all the
Speaker 1: old school guys. They come to Gray but there was
Speaker 1: the Grahams barber shop. Okay, that was the main thing.
Speaker 1: That's where they come get a haircut. Because of course,
Speaker 1: the practice facility was over there, right up the street
Speaker 1: a couple of miles for US landon Aples and we
Speaker 1: were right there for US Lane six thirty five, and
Speaker 1: so they just come right down the street a couple
Speaker 1: of miles and uh, ray Field right was there. Jethville
Speaker 1: Pe was big in Hamilton Park and of course Dorset.
Speaker 1: As we got older, Doorset would come down all the
Speaker 1: time and get his hair cut and that was like
Speaker 1: celebrity role man. People be outside, you know, just kind
Speaker 1: of talking with him, and it was no big deal
Speaker 1: back in the day. That was got such a long
Speaker 1: time ago. They come, they run through and even when
Speaker 1: I made the team, ray Field was like, hey, is
Speaker 1: your mom miss Walls? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was there.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing big guys, but I can't necessarily say
Speaker 1: that I could know that was I could have thought
Speaker 1: that it could be Jethroll Pufall, I know, you know,
Speaker 1: but at that time they were just big eyes down.
Speaker 1: There would have been Willie towns and towns for big
Speaker 1: time minutes in Hamiltons Park. Did he really Yes? Now
Speaker 1: they some of them will come to our churches. Doug Dennison,
Speaker 1: you know, was a was a member of Hamilton Park
Speaker 1: First Baptist Church for a minute. Huh. So, yeah, we
Speaker 1: had some some cowboys. They are always connected to the cowboys.
Speaker 1: So when I made it, you know, it was like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is you know, and all those guys Willie Towns,
Speaker 1: Jethro Pugh, ray Field, they stayed here after they're playing
Speaker 1: day Yeah. Yes, so anyway, yeah and so yeah ray Field. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was it was a really really good show. And
Speaker 1: he did tell us the story about his one catch
Speaker 1: he had as a tight end, and he talked about
Speaker 1: how he lined up here and Bob Hayes lined up there,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Meredith ended up throwing him the
Speaker 1: pass over the middle. I found I actually found the
Speaker 1: video of it and it was a fifteen yard touchdown pass.
Speaker 1: He went in untouched, right. I saw that and he
Speaker 1: said did they show that? Uh, they've shown that before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh he said the years later, he went up
Speaker 1: to Meredith. They were at some function. He says, hey,
Speaker 1: don do you remember throwing me that touchdown pass? And
Speaker 1: he goes, oh, hell, Raphael, I wasn't throwing the ball
Speaker 1: to you. You were so tall you jumped up and
Speaker 1: got in the way. I was trying to throw it
Speaker 1: to Bob Hays. So anyway, it was. It was a
Speaker 1: good walk down his memory lane, by the way, all right,
Speaker 1: and I have found it. And so in the next break,
Speaker 1: I will tweet it out. Okay, that sounds good. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, and it's about time for that next break.
Speaker 1: What do you want to get into when we come
Speaker 1: back here. Let's talk a little bit about positions like that,
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Speaker 1: All right, and I tweeted out the show from the
Speaker 1: Cowboys legend show that Mickey was referring to with Rayfield
Speaker 1: right at CBS eleven, Bill Jones, you can take a
Speaker 1: look at that, and after you listen to mix Shots.
Speaker 1: That's right, and call in eight eight eight eight five
Speaker 1: five two two nine seven. All right, there you go.
Speaker 1: We're taking phone calls since Everson's not hogging up the line. Right,
Speaker 1: all right, very good, I'm here today. All right, all right.
Speaker 1: Positions of need for the Cowboys, they are a plenty, yes,
Speaker 1: and I think we probably could each pick one and
Speaker 1: we'll be right. Okay, So we're gonna be I'm gonna
Speaker 1: pick a position I'm going to pick a position of Okay,
Speaker 1: are you saying that with the first round pick first
Speaker 1: you would like to see a player at this position picked? Right?
Speaker 1: And again, second and third round still could be addressed
Speaker 1: if you didn't do it in the first round. And
Speaker 1: this is sort of probably I'm tipping my hand what
Speaker 1: I'm going to write about for tomorrow. But my need,
Speaker 1: and there's plenty of them. I think in the first
Speaker 1: round will be wide receiver Gee with a surprise, and
Speaker 1: we've already had that discussion with Everson, and my priority
Speaker 1: is since they've got Ceedee, Lamb, are you going to
Speaker 1: hair ours for then we will discuss Yes, go ahead, Everson,
Speaker 1: you go next first round. We're talking first round, paid
Speaker 1: for the downs Cowboys, all right? You know where I stand.
Speaker 1: You know, I love the excitement of the wide receivers
Speaker 1: and all of that, But when we talk about our
Speaker 1: running game and the lack thereof at the end of
Speaker 1: the season, we talked about the four man rush that's
Speaker 1: getting to our quarterback. I have to go with an
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, all right, and the one that I see
Speaker 1: right now is Trevor Penning from Northern High one offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: He's a stud He's nasty. He's nasty, and that's what
Speaker 1: you need out there. Man. He's six feet six inches tall,
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty pounds wing spands what eighty three inches?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's that's a lot because hands are
Speaker 1: ten and a quarter. That's huge. This is what you need, guys,
Speaker 1: this is what you need. You guys want to go
Speaker 1: with the fluff, man. I want to go with the
Speaker 1: you know that. I want to get down the trenches
Speaker 1: with it. That's where you need to get better. In
Speaker 1: the trenches. We are known as a team that is soft.
Speaker 1: I think Trevor can bring a little grit to this
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys offensive line because we have been ridiculed in
Speaker 1: the latter parts of the season and I'm getting tired
Speaker 1: of it. We need to be strong in the trenches,
Speaker 1: down the stretch, playoff football, we are not there. Trevic
Speaker 1: can get us there. And he at six seven, three
Speaker 1: twenty five pounds ran a four eight nine forty. His
Speaker 1: cone drill was seven twenty five, which is really really
Speaker 1: good for an offensive lineman. Come on now. And here's
Speaker 1: the other thing about him is I think he could
Speaker 1: play guard. If you decide that your best five offensive
Speaker 1: lineman would be to have Terrence Steele start at right tackle,
Speaker 1: he could play left guard, and then in his second
Speaker 1: year moved to an offensive tackle position. And we keep
Speaker 1: talking about swing tackles, and that's the way I would
Speaker 1: agree to that that the guy has to be able
Speaker 1: to play guard. What about the swing tackle position. You
Speaker 1: don't want it. You don't want to take an off
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not taking a first round pick and be
Speaker 1: a swing tackle. Okay, No, no, in the dish into
Speaker 1: being a swing tackle? Oh yeah, yes, yes, all right.
Speaker 1: Here's the pecking order on the offensive lineman offensive tackles. Okay.
Speaker 1: You got the two at the very top, i Akanu
Speaker 1: and Evan Neil, and they're gonna go in the top
Speaker 1: five six picks. Okay. And then you've got Charles Cross
Speaker 1: from Mississippi State, and he is being projected by some
Speaker 1: as as a top ten pick. There have been some
Speaker 1: who say that he might slide, and there are some
Speaker 1: who say that the Cowboys might even be able to
Speaker 1: package from twenty four move up if they really like him.
Speaker 1: Take him, all right, what if Gill has him at five?
Speaker 1: He's got him at five, or let's say let's say
Speaker 1: he slid to sixteen true guard. No, he's a tackle.
Speaker 1: He's a offensive tackle, and some say he's the best
Speaker 1: pass blocking tackle in this draft. We're talking about Charles Cross,
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. Okay, I'm just thrown him out there as
Speaker 1: an example because Nicky said he doesn't want to take
Speaker 1: a tackle unless he's gonna start for you. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: here's here's a guy that in law likelihood way, he
Speaker 1: is rated, and you are trading up to take him.
Speaker 1: He's probably going to be your starting right tackle if
Speaker 1: you're drafting him in the first round. Okay, Now, Terrence
Speaker 1: Steele becomes your swing tackle, you still don't have your guard.
Speaker 1: But are you willing to do that? Well, my thoughts
Speaker 1: are when they cut Lale Collins, in their mind, they
Speaker 1: did it because Terrence Steele played better than him last year, right,
Speaker 1: and so there, And like I always say, at some point,
Speaker 1: you can't have a stake at every offensive line position.
Speaker 1: Let me throw one more thing on this now, not
Speaker 1: just for this now, for this year, Cross could start
Speaker 1: it probably another tackle. Next year, Cross could start at
Speaker 1: right tackle. He's being projected by some Gil Brand included
Speaker 1: as a top five pick in this draft, meaning that
Speaker 1: he has a the ability to play left tackle and
Speaker 1: eventually replace Tyrn Smith as your left tackle. But he's
Speaker 1: not going to be the last guy that can replace
Speaker 1: todcast Man. All right, So now you're picked best player.
Speaker 1: Now that the best player available at a position of need.
Speaker 1: I'm serious, I want the best player available that wasn't
Speaker 1: no position of need. Okay, and they've got a position
Speaker 1: A position of need. Would be a wide receiver, it
Speaker 1: would be an offensive guard or tackle. It could be
Speaker 1: a linebacker. It could be a defensive tackle or end,
Speaker 1: or a defensive end or especially a defense. Seriously, bailout.
Speaker 1: I want the best player there. Okay. If I've got
Speaker 1: let's say, I mean, let's just use And that wasn't
Speaker 1: the premise that let's I'm trying to think of it.
Speaker 1: Of an example of a guy. Okay, here's for instance. Okay,
Speaker 1: go back in the Cowboys past. Okay, in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight, the Cowboys had two first round draft picks. Okay,
Speaker 1: they took Mike Jenkins and Felix Jones with those two
Speaker 1: first round draft picks because they had a kneed at
Speaker 1: cornerback and they had a need at running pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: the guy I wanted to draft that year. It was
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson. Okay, he went early second round. I thought,
Speaker 1: with one of those two first round picks, they need
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson. Okay. And and you think back to where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were at wide receivers. TiO was right at
Speaker 1: the you know, TiO, it was the end. It was
Speaker 1: it was at the end or whatever. What did the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have to do in two thousand and eight during
Speaker 1: the season because they were so short at wide receiver,
Speaker 1: they traded for Roy Williams and they gave up their
Speaker 1: first round draft pick in two thousand and nine. How
Speaker 1: awful was the two thousand and nine draft? Didn't have
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick and then started trading down
Speaker 1: whatever in the second round. It was a bad draft
Speaker 1: to begin with. All in all, but my point is, Okay,
Speaker 1: we didn't think that they necessarily had a need at
Speaker 1: wide receiver. But the Jordy Nelson's a better player than
Speaker 1: Felix jones H or Mike Jenkins. So take Jordy Nelson
Speaker 1: with that pick, and then you don't have to give
Speaker 1: up your first round draft pick for us, all right,
Speaker 1: we have the best player available as a safety. I've
Speaker 1: got to take in a safety, you know, not in
Speaker 1: the first Yeah, it's a quarter, I'm saying, in a position. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what give me your position of need? Then, well,
Speaker 1: after what we do. Well, here's the other part of
Speaker 1: it is what I'm anticipating. What I'm inticipate. At least
Speaker 1: give us a positioned just give us that. I love
Speaker 1: taking a wide receiver. I gave you. I gave you
Speaker 1: my position to need. Okay, I said every position. I said,
Speaker 1: wide receiver, offensive guard, or tackle, whatever. Okay, um, defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, we got linebacker. We have to
Speaker 1: we have to to pare it down. So okay, if
Speaker 1: let me give you okay, I'll give you players, Scot
Speaker 1: I mean what I'll give you what player? What if again,
Speaker 1: some position that you don't need, and Michael Parsons is there,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you players. Okay.
Speaker 1: If wide receiver, I mean, there's there's several that could
Speaker 1: trail and Burke's Chris lave right. If this Drake London falls,
Speaker 1: I mean, any of those guys snap him up. Love it.
Speaker 1: Defensive tackle. If Jordan Davis is there, I want that day.
Speaker 1: If Davonte Wyatt is there, I'll take Davante why right, Okay?
Speaker 1: Um linebacker Nakobe Dean. I love this guy too, and
Speaker 1: he's likely gonna be there. I mean, it sounds like
Speaker 1: he's gonna be there. Okay, and so do I. If
Speaker 1: I think Nakobe Dean is gonna be a Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: player at linebacker, why would I take an offensive guard
Speaker 1: to fill a quote unquote need right there? That offensive guard,
Speaker 1: I don't project him to be a Pro Bowl player
Speaker 1: in his career. I'm gonna I want to take the
Speaker 1: guy who in the first round, who I think has
Speaker 1: the potential to be a Pro Bowl player at a
Speaker 1: position of need. You look at the Cowboys best That
Speaker 1: wasn't the question. You look at the Cowboys best draft moments.
Speaker 1: Have they ever compromised themselves in that manner? Yes, give
Speaker 1: me their best moments? Yes, I was gonna say their
Speaker 1: worst moments best moments. I know you know worse because
Speaker 1: you ranted, I want to do the best moments that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had to where they needed someone they want
Speaker 1: they need to fill in the spot and they say,
Speaker 1: you know what, last year, Michael Parsons because they were
Speaker 1: dead set on drafting a cornerback. And when the cornerbacks
Speaker 1: were off the board, thank goodness, the cornerbacks were gone.
Speaker 1: It was like God said, It's like everybody was sitting
Speaker 1: there going, oh, no for once backs are going and
Speaker 1: I'm going no because my man Parsons is there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: same thing. So you got trend and Jerry mentioned that
Speaker 1: during his last press conference. He basically said, yeah, we
Speaker 1: need this, this and this, but unless Michael Parsons or
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb is sitting there, much changes your mind. My
Speaker 1: point is, but it's a position that you could qualify
Speaker 1: using right when you say best player available, because best player,
Speaker 1: you better not take a tight end because I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get caught up in the fact that I need
Speaker 1: I need a left guard because I can go find
Speaker 1: there's a veteran left guard on the street right now
Speaker 1: who I can go sign who this year is going
Speaker 1: to be a better football player for my team. A
Speaker 1: rookie coming in and he starts to suck, then that's
Speaker 1: why he was available. Good guys, you get one in
Speaker 1: the second round and there's there's free agent wide receivers
Speaker 1: you can still sign, right, Jarvis Landry's still out there. Uh,
Speaker 1: that would be a nice pickup. I see Sammy watching
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins was going to visit somewhere today. T Y Hilton,
Speaker 1: Manuel Sanders, Alan Hearns, by the way, And here's one
Speaker 1: that I didn't realize he was still available, markis Goodwin,
Speaker 1: Texas wide receiver track star. He didn't. He was one
Speaker 1: of the COVID outs twenty twenty, he was with the Giants,
Speaker 1: and then last year I think Bears ended up with
Speaker 1: the Bears and he didn't get to play much at all.
Speaker 1: He's from Rolette too. You might be able to get
Speaker 1: him for a song and a dance. Let's see you
Speaker 1: guys like I don't see you getting them for cheap right. Well,
Speaker 1: but like Landry, those guys are all still out there.
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just wondering. Are they out there
Speaker 1: looking for big deals? Are they have to looking for
Speaker 1: one year deal? Well, I'll tell you what if. If
Speaker 1: Landry is that's a major. I'm out there and it's
Speaker 1: May first, the draft's over. Yeah, I'm still out there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the one year deal for May that would be because
Speaker 1: he's last week. You know, Miami was trying to trade
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker and the Cowboys made a phone call and
Speaker 1: I bet they wanted They only wanted to give up
Speaker 1: a fifth, and I think they ended up getting a third,
Speaker 1: uh for or wherever he went. H So they're still
Speaker 1: looking at the veteran wide wide receivers, but for the
Speaker 1: price that they want to pay. Okay, not a long
Speaker 1: term deal for some guys. We're not gonna try and
Speaker 1: tabuild down. Then we're gonna let them well wide receiver
Speaker 1: wide receivers the first guy. Okay, because wide receivers the
Speaker 1: first guy. Um, if if all things mean, if all
Speaker 1: those guys are available, if all those guys are available
Speaker 1: for me, I'll probably would take the wide receiver first,
Speaker 1: and they would be although that if Jordan Davis is there,
Speaker 1: that would he's Michael Parsons to me. Yeah, from what
Speaker 1: I say, even though he's not a three down player, right,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't have to be a three young player.
Speaker 1: He frees up Michael Parsons to make plays. He would
Speaker 1: he would be so good on first and second that
Speaker 1: when they got so you're happy with him being in
Speaker 1: the middle, Oh yeah, and putting Parsons on this on
Speaker 1: the end. No, No, you're talking that did the nocacle?
Speaker 1: Oh Ordon Davis? Now, But to your point, Nikobe Dean
Speaker 1: is the linebacker, yes, and he frees up Michael Parsons student.
Speaker 1: Now you can play him both at linebacker or yeah,
Speaker 1: Nikoby Deane is okay, yes, and um, you can play
Speaker 1: him at linebacker, and then Parsons can is freed up
Speaker 1: to play on the edge if that's what you wanted
Speaker 1: to do certain plays. I mean, he can go from
Speaker 1: play to play. And I still think they'll do that
Speaker 1: regardless with vander Esh and if Jabril Cox can play.
Speaker 1: But again that's a big if on Jabil because jibro
Speaker 1: Cox is not the same type line right he is.
Speaker 1: He's a nickel wife, Yeah, he's not, right, yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you get a true guy in the middle,
Speaker 1: and that's why they they signed vander Esh to the
Speaker 1: contract to let him play middle, so you can put
Speaker 1: Parsons at week or strong or whatever you want to
Speaker 1: do with him and move him around. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: and and so that's the beauty of what this draft
Speaker 1: is for the Cowboys because they've got these needs, right,
Speaker 1: and they've got needs that you can qualify taking in
Speaker 1: the first round. I mean, I think we've hit him.
Speaker 1: We've hit him off again, Guys, where we failed. I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: where we failed was on the offensive line, and that
Speaker 1: has got to be addressed, and not in a casual manner.
Speaker 1: It needs to be somewhere. If they ain't, the top
Speaker 1: needs to be. You say, that's that's just, and I'll
Speaker 1: pete what I said last week about if you look
Speaker 1: at where the money's going in the NFL, and now
Speaker 1: we found another quarterback to go into the top five,
Speaker 1: but pass quarterback. The next amount of money being spent
Speaker 1: is on wide receivers. And there's a reason for that
Speaker 1: because they do make a difference in the game. And
Speaker 1: I'm with you, you got to fortify that line. Can
Speaker 1: I get Can I get a starting guard in the
Speaker 1: second round or third round? And they've tried now. Connor
Speaker 1: Williams was fine until he started getting called for holding, right.
Speaker 1: I never thought he was fine. Well, I think he
Speaker 1: was good enough. He wasn't Larry Allen, right, okay, And
Speaker 1: Larry Allen, by the way, was found in the second round.
Speaker 1: He was Sonoma State, all right, which good story on him.
Speaker 1: So when we did a big documentary on Larry, when
Speaker 1: we went to California and we went to San Louis Obispo,
Speaker 1: his head coach from Sonoma State was the head coach
Speaker 1: there now, and he said yeah, he said, I had
Speaker 1: this assistant coach and he kept telling me about this
Speaker 1: Larry Allen, this Larry Allen, you got to give him
Speaker 1: a scholarship. And he goes, okay, bring him in. So
Speaker 1: they bring Larry Allen in to the gym and Larry
Speaker 1: shows up with a all white warm up suit, right,
Speaker 1: and and the assistant coach kept telling the head coach
Speaker 1: and by the way, this guy's a good basketball player.
Speaker 1: So Larry shows up at his what six three let
Speaker 1: me guess he had to dip in his mouth too.
Speaker 1: I can't get that out of my head. He shows
Speaker 1: up at six three three twenty five or whatever he was,
Speaker 1: and he said, okay, Larry, you know, coach doesn't believe me,
Speaker 1: but he says, you know, you can dunk. And they
Speaker 1: gave him the basketball. They were in the gym and
Speaker 1: he stood underneath the basket with no warm up, no
Speaker 1: running start, jumps and dugs the ball and the head
Speaker 1: coach goes, he's got a scholarship. Yes, they have the
Speaker 1: same They have that same story about Nate Newton. They
Speaker 1: said the family he could he could duck the basketball
Speaker 1: and to me, that's just amazing, right, just the athletes
Speaker 1: that these guys would and then they go to these
Speaker 1: small schools and you wonder like, what were you guys
Speaker 1: looking at a foal? Yeah, and it wasn't believed, Nate,
Speaker 1: I wasn't believe it was by the way, Nate didn't
Speaker 1: tell me that story. Nate did not tell me that story. Okay,
Speaker 1: these are other family players that told me that story.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't at w w BA. It wasn't none
Speaker 1: of that. No, no, none of that. Yeah, all right,
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Speaker 1: have informed punter hunter Nice Wander they are waiving him
Speaker 1: on Thursday, according to Michael Gillikin of the Dallas Morning News. Well,
Speaker 1: which means he's healthy. Now. Remember they put him on
Speaker 1: fully recovered from the back injury so they don't have
Speaker 1: to pay him any injuries settlement. So they hung on
Speaker 1: to him until he got there. Yeah, he was trying
Speaker 1: to remember before he was the year before, right, and
Speaker 1: he he came in when Zerline got hurt or what happened,
Speaker 1: and he ended up kicking. In twenty twenty, he appeared
Speaker 1: in eight games and punted twenty six times forty seven
Speaker 1: yard average. He was he had ten kicks inside the
Speaker 1: twenty yeah that year, so it was pretty good. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate now they're paying Anger. Anger is better big money.
Speaker 1: At least he had a better year last year. But
Speaker 1: if you look at his contract, it's it's basically a
Speaker 1: one year deal and the guarantees are like maybe four million.
Speaker 1: They can get out of it for less than one hundred,
Speaker 1: I mean less than a million after one year. But
Speaker 1: it's a three year, nine nine million dollars. So he
Speaker 1: was with the Cowboys in camp and then he suffered
Speaker 1: the back injury and was placed on IR for the
Speaker 1: entire season, and then had the best season of his career. Right, So,
Speaker 1: are we're going to let him stay in? Kick angers? Hunter? No? No? Hunter?
Speaker 1: Nice wanders out? Yeah, all right, So what are you
Speaker 1: thinking about kicker? Then? Kicker is a need so first round.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, when Stephen Jones was asked,
Speaker 1: he's the best athlete, best athlete available. That ain't gonna
Speaker 1: happen with the best athlete available, right, Hey man, he
Speaker 1: may be a rugby type guy he could even play.
Speaker 1: It was the guy they drafted that year. Uh was
Speaker 1: it a seventh rone pick or he had played special
Speaker 1: teams back in the two thousands. What's his name, David Bieler?
Speaker 1: Was it Beeler the athlete? Yeah, it was Beeler. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because because they said, oh he's draft and he could
Speaker 1: also play special teams for us, and he had his
Speaker 1: home John Phillips the tied end were the only thing
Speaker 1: they got out of those picks that you talk about
Speaker 1: a dirty dozen, that was a dirty dozen draft picks. So, kicker,
Speaker 1: all they got right now is uh nigger? Is that
Speaker 1: how he's saying? The guy he kicked at SMU one
Speaker 1: year he was a punter and then he ended up
Speaker 1: kicking uh and and so. But other than that, I
Speaker 1: mean they got to go and find a veteran kicker
Speaker 1: to come in and at least compete with him. And
Speaker 1: you're going, I'm going with Chris nagar in a gg R.
Speaker 1: But I don't know how to pronounce okay and and
Speaker 1: that's all they had to care for that name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know That's why I hesitated. Um. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to get myself in trouble right and have to apologize. Um,
Speaker 1: but if you look at veteran and Stephen said, they
Speaker 1: asked him the question at the owners meeting, what do
Speaker 1: you need to do to shore up your roster so
Speaker 1: you don't have to reach in the draft. And the
Speaker 1: first thing he said was, well, we need a kicker,
Speaker 1: meaning a veteran kicker. Well, I looked at the available
Speaker 1: veteran kickers out there, and stop me when one of
Speaker 1: the names stop you, Michael Badgeley, Sam Thicking, Matt Amondola,
Speaker 1: any of that gets you excited. And I asked somebody
Speaker 1: about those guys and they said, yeah, there are those
Speaker 1: guys that you know what, Yeah, every week and every
Speaker 1: year it's like a one year deal and then they
Speaker 1: move on and you got to find somebody else. Uh.
Speaker 1: Badgeley probably was the best of the group. Uh. He
Speaker 1: was a free agent kicker from Miami. UH. He ended
Speaker 1: up in his career making seventy of eighty seven UH
Speaker 1: field goals, so he did a pretty good job. The
Speaker 1: other guys were, you know, just guys. Matt Amondola was
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma State. He kicked eleven games for the Jets. UH.
Speaker 1: And then the Jets signed Zerline this year, so um,
Speaker 1: it's it's a pretty uh slim group. Uh. And then
Speaker 1: when I looked at the guys that were listed as
Speaker 1: some of the top guys kickers in the draft, Cameron
Speaker 1: Dicker from Texas, Dicker the kicker, Dicker the kicker, they
Speaker 1: just stood. Cowboys just waved Hunter the punter, and so
Speaker 1: now they can go draft Dicker the kiss. Last year
Speaker 1: he was thirteen of fifteen. He made twelve of thirteen
Speaker 1: from twenty to fifty. So to me, that's your money kicks, right,
Speaker 1: Whatever you make fifty plus is great, but you got
Speaker 1: to make the ones from twenty to fifty. And then
Speaker 1: at LSU, Cade York, who's from Prosper. Prosper right up
Speaker 1: the toll, so they should know all about him. His
Speaker 1: last two years at LSU, he kicked all four last
Speaker 1: two years, he was thirty three of thirty nine and
Speaker 1: he made five of seven fifty plush with a long
Speaker 1: of fifty six. Nice. So you know you're gonna mention
Speaker 1: the other guy, Gay Gabe B. Listen to what you said,
Speaker 1: Gabe B. Listen right, listening, listening still, I'm double. You
Speaker 1: know where is he from? Oklahoma? He's from Oklahoma. Everson. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: come on that he's here. Let's go. He was twenty
Speaker 1: of twenty six the last two years, so he improved
Speaker 1: as he went along, fifty seven of sixty nine for
Speaker 1: his career. When you go back to lsu Kde York,
Speaker 1: this guy's kicking off of grass at home. Natural grass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. So it's the Norman guy who Burketoh
Speaker 1: was he was? He kicking at what the school is? Oh?
Speaker 1: You didn't listen to Oklahoma? Did not like? No, he's
Speaker 1: not kicking off of grass. They have grass? Uh huh,
Speaker 1: yeahn't know that. I thought that was turf. So which
Speaker 1: one do you like? He probably kicked off turf at
Speaker 1: prosper who had. I tell you what, when you go
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, the wind is blowing there, sweeping down the plane,
Speaker 1: so you don't get that. In bad roods, you had nothing.
Speaker 1: We bragged about the four or fifth round picks. Would
Speaker 1: you use a fifth? Well, Dane Brugler has Cade York
Speaker 1: his number one rated kicker, and he has a grade
Speaker 1: of a fifth or sixth round pick on him. He
Speaker 1: Gabe Burkitch is his number two, sixth or seventh round
Speaker 1: grade and Cameron dicker, the kicker, seventh round grade out
Speaker 1: of Texas. If you're kicking, I gotta say, if you
Speaker 1: if you use all of those everything being equal, then
Speaker 1: you start looking at you know, the weather, the field
Speaker 1: and all of that. It's tough kicking in Oklahoma. I
Speaker 1: wonder where that wind is blowing all. So you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to help me with this. The kicker. It was
Speaker 1: the rookie from Cincinnati. Um, yeah, I was fifth round pick.
Speaker 1: Fifth is that what he was? Okay? And he was
Speaker 1: awfully good, Yes he was, he was. He was. He
Speaker 1: was stella. So to me, to me, when we hit
Speaker 1: training camp, you're McPherson, you're gonna have Nagar, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have a veteran guy you signed on a one year deal,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a fifth round pick. And let's compete.
Speaker 1: And we'll be sitting there watching practices underneath the gold posts,
Speaker 1: looking at every kickoff or kick competition they have. They
Speaker 1: usually give them all six and everybody's gonna get six
Speaker 1: and how many can make. But that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I like the Oklahoma guy, I really do, simply just
Speaker 1: the conditions themselves, potential conditions Klanna sways me a little
Speaker 1: bit until its sales in his favor. Plus, they scored
Speaker 1: a lot of points in his career there, and so
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of experience kicking, does he does?
Speaker 1: He have a lot of how far LSU the Kade
Speaker 1: York he was with Joe Joe Burrows team and they
Speaker 1: scored a whole munch and most of those came against Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: And and I think he was I think he was
Speaker 1: nearly perfect on his extra points. Well, ah, that's a
Speaker 1: big thing. And you also got to look at kickoff Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're extra points are not No, no, you better
Speaker 1: be nearly perfect. Yeah. Uh. And then you got to
Speaker 1: look at kickoffs too, you know, can you get the
Speaker 1: ball in the end. I'm waiting on Build to come
Speaker 1: with some information. He's strolling over here. I'm just looking
Speaker 1: up I thought you were gonna be. I was on
Speaker 1: the Sooner website looking up Gabe Burkitch. I wanted to
Speaker 1: see how many how many kicks does he have versus
Speaker 1: the guy down of the LSU. Yeah it was I
Speaker 1: thought Mickey gave that to us. I didn't pass him.
Speaker 1: I didn't give you a birr No. No, he was
Speaker 1: fifty seven of sixty nine, right now, burkitch In two,
Speaker 1: I was nineteen, was seventeen for seventeen on field goals.
Speaker 1: That's when I liked him. He was twenty of twenty
Speaker 1: six in twenty twenty, and he was twenty of twenty
Speaker 1: six and twenty one and he missed an extra point
Speaker 1: one extra point in his career one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: nine out of one hundred and sixty. All right, so
Speaker 1: there's possibility. Do you have a point after touchdowns for York?
Speaker 1: And I didn't write them? Okay, sorry, all right? PTS
Speaker 1: not impressed. Still, well, it doesn't matter because the college
Speaker 1: extra point is not and you looking up what is
Speaker 1: what's he kicking from thirty to thirty five? What are
Speaker 1: they doing from thirty to thirty five? Right, that's what
Speaker 1: you want to see. That's the stat because that's going
Speaker 1: to be there. And that's when I wrote down on Dickery,
Speaker 1: he was twelve or thirteen between twenty and forty nine
Speaker 1: point right. And the thing you liked about York he
Speaker 1: was five of seven from fifty plus. So he's got
Speaker 1: the late, he's got the lake. And if you can
Speaker 1: do that, then your kickoffs are probably pretty good too,
Speaker 1: all right, but it's a need looking ahead next Thursday.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I need a bill out early now,
Speaker 1: y'all you want you two want to take it to
Speaker 1: the take it go. I have to go do a
Speaker 1: zoom with Dane Brugler, which you'll be able to see
Speaker 1: the contents of that zoom on CBS eleven on Sunday night,
Speaker 1: and let him know that we gave him shot. Like
Speaker 1: he didn't get enough pub on Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 1: He got a mix shot um. All right. So next week, though,
Speaker 1: there will be a week out from the draft, and
Speaker 1: I assume on draft Day we won't have a show
Speaker 1: in the morning on Draft Day or I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just can you do it? I can do it.
Speaker 1: I can do it, Okay, all right, I don't give
Speaker 1: it the powers that be. Well, we have to have
Speaker 1: Chris if he can do it, that's right. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be working untill in the morning, all right. So y'all
Speaker 1: keep going, and I'm gonna give my stuff and I've
Speaker 1: got to set up from my zoom, all right. Keep
Speaker 1: talking about we're gonna have to make We're gonna have
Speaker 1: make rent right here, and then we'll just rant on
Speaker 1: our have Everson talked about it all his homework over there.
Speaker 1: Still got still got stuff for you, baby. I want
Speaker 1: to know what Philly's doing. You know what they're gonna
Speaker 1: do with Jalen Hurts. We're gonna command is gonna do
Speaker 1: We gonna play them, well, command is gonna do with
Speaker 1: with Uh WinCE, They're gonna play them w I E
Speaker 1: n C w C you WinCE when you watch? All right, So,
Speaker 1: since I've got a list here, Um, this was the
Speaker 1: list from Bucky Brooks as the top wide receivers in
Speaker 1: the draft. Okay, Uh, First, he had Drake London from
Speaker 1: Southern cal Second, and I was a little bit surprised
Speaker 1: by this one. Uh Jameson will Williams from Alabama who's
Speaker 1: coming off a torn acl Yeah, championship him. I do too.
Speaker 1: But would you take him with a first round pick? Yes?
Speaker 1: That high? If he's there at twenty four, you might
Speaker 1: be able to qualify it, right because he's probably not
Speaker 1: ready to play, is he? You're gonna pay Michael Gallipo
Speaker 1: guys not ready to play? You want both of them
Speaker 1: not ready to play. It's the potential. He's young, guys,
Speaker 1: he caught up in September of twenty twenty two. You
Speaker 1: need to think about the next five years, right, man,
Speaker 1: there's a stud that's why they were going out, that
Speaker 1: he was killing it before you got hurt. All right.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any complaints that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: always take somebody that's hurt. And now Jay because he's available, Okay,
Speaker 1: he had him second. Garrett Wilson of Ohio State was third.
Speaker 1: Um uh, Jake Jason Dotson Okay, Penn State, Penn State. Yes,
Speaker 1: Chris Olive, Ohio State. And then after that they had
Speaker 1: trailing Burks from what they thought maybe or maybe not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they had Burke's next, and then John Metchi from Alabama.
Speaker 1: He heard it. He hurt himself too. Metchi got hurt, yes,
Speaker 1: he did. Matchi got hit u and then George Pickens
Speaker 1: of Georgia. So those were his top. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if all those guys are first round. I think
Speaker 1: the first five I gave you were figured to be
Speaker 1: first round. Then the other guys you might be able
Speaker 1: to get late in the first round or at some
Speaker 1: point in the second round. And at that point when
Speaker 1: you're looking at wide receivers, it all depends on the
Speaker 1: system that you go to, right and the type. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because yes, they all fit different things. Right, you got
Speaker 1: was a bigger receiver. I don't know if he's got
Speaker 1: a lot of speed, but you know he's more athletic
Speaker 1: receiver out there. And you know there's certain teams like
Speaker 1: the Titans, right, they love athletic wide receivers. I mean,
Speaker 1: you look at the ninetis athletic wide receivers. So if
Speaker 1: I look at Gill's top one hundred, Garrett Wilson, he
Speaker 1: had him ranked the f eighth best player in the draft.
Speaker 1: Drake London was ranked thirteenth, fourteenth right behind him Trey
Speaker 1: Lion Burkes, the kid from Arkansas. So this shows you
Speaker 1: how there's different you know, everybody looks at guys differently.
Speaker 1: That's like if you look at Lockett, you know for Seattle, right,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have gone and played under with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Would he be as dynamic with anyone else with any
Speaker 1: other system? Not necessarily what he can't thrive in the
Speaker 1: particular system, but would it showcase his talents the way
Speaker 1: that Seattle's office did. Gill had Jameson Williams ranked twenty
Speaker 1: seventh and right behind him at twenty eight was Chris Olave.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of in the Cowboys draft wheelhouse when
Speaker 1: they're at twenty fourth. Now he you know he wrote
Speaker 1: he recently, uh meaning Williams said he's ahead of schedule. Well,
Speaker 1: all those guys that suffered acls and or a head
Speaker 1: of schedule, that's right, that's all they're They're not going
Speaker 1: to say anything different. Their babies though, they can so
Speaker 1: much quicker and then they'll come back strong as if
Speaker 1: nothing ever happened. Let's see, and like I said, you
Speaker 1: want to know Dame Brugos ranking, I have it, okay,
Speaker 1: and I'll just get one more at thirty eight. Uh
Speaker 1: gilhead Johan Dotson. Uh there that far down? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: um on the athletic it goes uh Wilson, Williams, London, Lave,
Speaker 1: and Burkes as first rounders and Johan Dotson as a
Speaker 1: first second rounder. So he has six basically, you know
Speaker 1: what somebody like a Dotson. He comes from a Big
Speaker 1: ten team. They throw the ball that much, right, you know,
Speaker 1: you can see him escaping from that system and just
Speaker 1: thriving in a whole other system that's going to showcase
Speaker 1: his talent, And it's almost like, what flavor do you
Speaker 1: need because do you need an ex guy? Do you
Speaker 1: need a slot guy? Do you need a guy that
Speaker 1: can play all three? Do you need one like a
Speaker 1: Debo that can play in the backfield? Right, someone that
Speaker 1: can carry the ball the ball CD lamb this year
Speaker 1: and we've done in the past. So you want as
Speaker 1: a wide receiver now you can do so many things
Speaker 1: to impact the team other than just sitting out wide
Speaker 1: and catching flies, catching nines. And I think, if I
Speaker 1: remember correctly, Berks, I think they handed him the ball,
Speaker 1: maybe because it says with the next closest player. I
Speaker 1: don't know. That was just they're just talking about he
Speaker 1: ran for one touchdown, so uh yeah, if you can
Speaker 1: find you can see that in him. Yeah, because he's
Speaker 1: got that kind of build and he's that fits and
Speaker 1: he's got some speed. Yes he does also, which um
Speaker 1: we could always use you can, right, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean Pollard showed how valuable he can be as a
Speaker 1: kickoff return guys. Uh And if you're gonna start giving
Speaker 1: him more carries, which I don't know will actually happen,
Speaker 1: then you may not want him returning kickoffs. They put
Speaker 1: a young guy back there. When you look at guys
Speaker 1: like like Deebo, when you look at guys like Brown
Speaker 1: from the tightness, you know, these are the guys that
Speaker 1: if you can get those kinds, that's the ones you want.
Speaker 1: They may not be as fluid as wide receiver, but
Speaker 1: they're good enough to go down. They make plays on
Speaker 1: the ball wherever it's thrown, and they can carry the
Speaker 1: ball as well. They can run after catch right after kid.
Speaker 1: And I would imagine that would haunt a cornerback. Yes,
Speaker 1: it does, because if you don't make that tackle it away,
Speaker 1: you might be in trouble. The battle is not done
Speaker 1: just because they caught the ball. No, right, it has
Speaker 1: just begun. All right, Well, we were able to do
Speaker 1: our deal with Bill here for the last five minutes,
Speaker 1: and for Bill, for Everson Walls, I'm Mickey Spagnola and
Speaker 1: that was mick shots for this week. Chris Beam, thanks
Speaker 1: a lot for your help, and we'll be back next
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