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Speaker 1: Warning, today's episode can hit spoilers for House of the

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Speaker 1: Dragons season two, episode four, Do not watch it, Do

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Speaker 1: do before you watch it. Hello, my name is Jason

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Speaker 1: Concepcion and I'm Rosy Night, and welcome back to Extra

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Speaker 1: Vision of the podcast where we dive deep into your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. Coming to you

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Speaker 1: from My Heart Podcasts, where we're bringing you to piping

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Speaker 1: hot episodes of action every week Tuesdays and Thursday.

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Speaker 2: In today's episode in the Airlock, we will be diving

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Speaker 2: into that shocking episode Bob Housing the Dragon episode four,

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Speaker 2: and what an episode it was, and we'll be going

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Speaker 2: to the scorecard to see who's winning, who's losing, who's

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Speaker 2: catching a point. After this wild episode of How's of

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Speaker 2: the Dragon?

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Speaker 1: Shall we Be Dead? How's to the Dragon? Season two,

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Speaker 1: episode four, Damon's weird dreams continue and are they dreams?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? I'm eager to dive into this with

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Speaker 1: you because I think we get something like answers shortly

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Speaker 1: in this episode. So this time he finds himself in

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Speaker 1: the throne room in the Red Keep. Young Raniera is

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Speaker 1: there and she is just like unleashing a harangue on him,

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Speaker 1: but it's muted. It's hard for him to hear. It's

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Speaker 1: cloudy for some of it, right, But the thing that

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Speaker 1: we definitely hear is Raniera saying to Damon, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: Visa's loved me more than he loved you, which is

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Speaker 1: why he chose me. And this enrages Damon to no end.

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Speaker 1: He cuts off her head, but the head continues to

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Speaker 1: And then suddenly Damon comes to and it's Sir Simon

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Speaker 1: know there's been a message. Damon learns from Sir Strong

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Speaker 1: that the Greens, led by our favorite Christen, call mister

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Speaker 1: hair mister bowl cut. Christ Oh you know what I

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Speaker 2: I just want to thank whoever gave this man the

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Speaker 2: the most evil, moral, bad villainous thing has been done

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Speaker 2: the haircut Christian Cole deserves. He undeserved to look sexy.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't deserve to look chivalrous give him that bad

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Speaker 2: ball haircut, and it is representative of the bad choices

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Speaker 1: The most jilted Boyfriend. Oh yeah, like we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 2: But there is a line in this where I literally

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Speaker 1: I know you tried to tell the Queen to Bee

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Speaker 1: that she should run away and pick oranges with you,

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Speaker 1: and she was like, are you fucking crazy? And he is.

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Speaker 2: The FAA gives him merely Alcott with one of the

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Speaker 2: all time great reaction memes. There.

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Speaker 1: So Damon learns that Christen Cole is at the head

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Speaker 1: and Stokeworth have gone over to the enemy, citing the

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Speaker 1: murder of Prince to Harris hashtag Damon's fault hashtag dame.

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Speaker 2: As we also we kind of know that really though,

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Speaker 2: you know, apologize for Damon committing child murder. But Kristin

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Speaker 1: Stuff for sure. So Damon has been awoken because he

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Speaker 2: His father died, Like please, and Damon and again.

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Speaker 1: Like you're coming off of the news that you engineered

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Speaker 1: I understand now why the Brackens and the Blackwoods are

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Speaker 1: they like killing, and they're ready to fucking go on

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Speaker 1: drift Bark Rainy's chats with Alan at the show such

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Speaker 1: a good moment Rainey's is the best. This is a

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Speaker 2: This is this is top tier casting. This is his son.

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Speaker 1: He was like, what didn't you do?

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Speaker 2: Yea? And he was he was like, yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: he saved your life. He is your son, and I

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Speaker 1: Incredible performance by eve Best, who you could tell that

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Speaker 2: You are exactly. It's like behave ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So she tells Corliss in the course of that

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Speaker 1: like arguing, so we need you. In King's Landing, Alison

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Speaker 1: gets some plan tea from Grandmaster or while she says

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Speaker 2: did this shit. I believe he didn't like it. Like

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, protect yourself. You've gotta be careful here taking

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Speaker 2: that planty and also just be careful having so much

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Speaker 2: like unprotected medieval sex with Kristin Cole. He is a

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Speaker 2: bad bet, babe.

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Speaker 1: He is Kristen Cole. Listen. I'm not gonna begrudge Allison

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Speaker 2: Finds she deserves. But there's ways to have pleasure that

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Speaker 1: But Christen Cole got to pull out. You can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't be planning. His planning game is terrible. Game

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Speaker 1: Like but you know he's.

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Speaker 2: Trying to make an air. I know that man has

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Speaker 2: the meme makers have been delivering with those really dude,

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Speaker 2: it's that face with It's like Raniera and her face

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Speaker 1: That's right, there was another egg on.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's only like the most famous and accomplished

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Speaker 2: dumb bitch. And it's just that Anna. But I love

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Speaker 2: that what we're getting here that I have to say

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Speaker 2: I was not expecting, even as an Alison apologist. Alison

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Speaker 1: She's thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: King's Land and she's trying to find books.

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Speaker 1: She's been a history about that conversation.

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Speaker 2: She is like, oh my god, I need to know

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Speaker 2: this isn't true, Like I can't have done all of

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Speaker 2: this for nothing.

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Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right. She heard she saw the

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Speaker 1: and the Song of Ice and Fire, and now she's like,

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Speaker 1: That's clearly a big deal and something that was never

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Speaker 2: And I I love how the next part where she

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Speaker 2: she's actually getting She's like oscing other people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so she asks, you know, for a while, did

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Speaker 1: you think that my husband, the aged Visarus, really wanted

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Speaker 1: a while, very wisely says, I'm just the grandmaster. Do

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Speaker 1: you think the king talks to me about shit like that?

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Speaker 2: I'm just putting leeches on his back like that's it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just putting I'm just like making poltices like I

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Speaker 1: We're back on Dragonstone. The Black Council, as mentioned, is

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Speaker 1: And it's also a great moment, because Corlis doesn't outshine Rainey's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a very like it's a very you

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Speaker 1: Even then dresses Eggon down in high Vala in a

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Speaker 1: and blood, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And also his intentions will not matter because also

428
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 2: history is written by the winner. Yeah, you know, and

429
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: we're going to see that as the show goes on.

430
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: We go back to Heron Hall, where it can be

431
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: very fucking weird, folks.

432
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: Damon horror movie horror shit is good. The cinematography is amazing.

433
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: So Damon is just wandering on the halls following an

434
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: apparition of himself wearing an eye patch like aimoned one eye.

435
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: Very foreshadowing.

436
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, he's got He takes his sword out.

437
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: He's following this ghostly figure and he finds himself in

438
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: the kitchens where Alice Rivers is worthing was our first

439
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: real meeting with.

440
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, we a glimpse of her last time, but you

441
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: really get a sense of her this time.

442
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: So there is no master here at Heron Hall. The

443
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: mester Alice says, fled because he just couldn't get the

444
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: hang of.

445
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: This place, couldn't get settled.

446
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: She's there mixing potions or something, and she says, you

447
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: know that trouble sleeping.

448
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: I had. It can be hard to sleep in this

449
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: one test castle. How are you doing?

450
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: Not a problem I have, but but but a problem

451
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: that many. She's like, I'm chilling, and she mentions that, well,

452
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: this place is cursed, and it was cursed from way

453
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: before egg On the conqueror burned hair in the Black.

454
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: Here it was cursed because Heron la Black, who was

455
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 1: a iron born raider who decided to put down roots

456
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: in the riverlands after conquering much of it, cut down

457
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: a massive grove of weird woods to clear the way

458
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 1: for his vast castle. And those wear woods, of course,

459
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: are are ancient.

460
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: There, and some of them were hot trees, the magic

461
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 2: souls of the people who died.

462
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: We've seen the kind of magic that one can interact

463
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: with from Game of Thrones and brands uh, you know,

464
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: adventures into the past through these trees. So those were

465
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: cut down without any care to what that meant, and

466
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: since then the place has been cursed. In fact, Damon,

467
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: you're sleeping on a bed made of werewood, So you

468
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: tell me what that's about. And then she has gone, yeah,

469
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: how's it going? And then she says, as a joke,

470
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: what I'm not a I'm not a person, I'm a

471
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: barn owl in human form, which felt like a joke,

472
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: but also like not a joke.

473
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 2: No, definitely not a joke.

474
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: We know that words exist in this world of people

475
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 1: who have the ability to commune with animals in magical ways.

476
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: So what does this mean? She realizes that. She immediately

477
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: says some very touches like the hot stove of Damon's

478
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: emotions and says.

479
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: Sounds like he's She's been in his mind, that's for sure.

480
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: She seems to know a lot about what drives damoned

481
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 1: right now. Then she gives him some kind of potion

482
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: so that she can sleep. This will help you sleep.

483
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: You'll need your rest, You'll need your energy in order

484
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: to deal with what the things that you're going to

485
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: find here.

486
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: And also because she can sense, she's like, look, if

487
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: you're trying to take a throne and make a claim yourself,

488
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: you're going to need some energy for that. And Damon's like, ah,

489
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: how does she know this? Also, I just want to say, damon,

490
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: when a woman who's obviously a witch, I just want

491
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: to say that I love a witch. Right, this woman's

492
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: obviously a witch. You call her a witch. Look, she's

493
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: that she's making a potion that looks like it's probably

494
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: made of organs of some She's licking her bloody fingers.

495
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: When she then gives you the potion and says this

496
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: will help you sleep, I would just say, don't drink it.

497
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: And look, I I'm someone who's dealt with a lot

498
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: of insomnia in my life. I understand the desperation of

499
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: needing a good night's sleep, but I would just say,

500
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: probably not a good idea.

501
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me just so. The river Lands is an

502
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: ancient and mysterious place. They're right like within sight of

503
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: the walls of Heron Hall. Very close by is the

504
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: gods I Lake. The Gods I Lake has a island

505
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: on the middle that covered in were woods, the Island

506
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: of Faces. They call it the Faces because the face

507
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: is carved in the heart trees, where it is rumored

508
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: that the children of the forest still reside. And all

509
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: of which is to say is this is a magical

510
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: place with lots of access to the hallucinogenic weir woods,

511
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 1: and I do wonder if what Alice is doing here

512
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: is not taking weirwood sap or we're with something pounding,

513
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: pounding it into different potions and feeding it to Damon

514
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: in his food, in his drink. However, you know, we've

515
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: seen how that affected brand and Game of Thrones, and

516
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: I do wonder if that's not what she's doing to

517
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: Damon for reasons unknown, I don't know why.

518
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I agree because actually the thing about Bran

519
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: is when he was hallucinating, you know, he was young,

520
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: he was a child. He hadn't really committed.

521
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: It looked at it like Ga Thrones. It looked very bloody,

522
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: sappy blood.

523
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: But for him, he could he was getting to go

524
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: on these kind of like mind expanding journeys, right, But

525
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: we know that herllucinogens they kind of open doors to

526
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: parts of yourself you might be hiding or not want

527
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 2: to deal with. And Damon is definitely going through some

528
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: kind of like ego death, like young with dealing with

529
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: the horrors of what he did to Raniera. I mean,

530
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: in the opening scene when Raniera says you created me,

531
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: I was like my mind was blown. I was like

532
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so true and like so many

533
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: many horrible ways.

534
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: Also, Brand had a Shirpa in the One Eyed Raven

535
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: who was guiding these visions and had been connected to

536
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: the Weirward network for for over a century. By the

537
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: point that we meet him, Damon is just tripping.

538
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: With that just styl an ego death. It's it's going

539
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: badly for him.

540
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: So Damon drinks this potion and next thing he knows,

541
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: it's an unknown amount of time later, it's daytime. It's

542
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: like he is just immediately he's dressed. He is sitting

543
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: at the table at the.

544
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: Meaning and finishing his sip.

545
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: Almost He's like what. And he is sitting there with

546
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: Sir Williem Blackwood, who he doesn't remember being introduced to.

547
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: And Sir Blackwood is of course very very eager to

548
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: feel an army, especially if it's gonna be sent against

549
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: the Brackens and to raise the banner of the One

550
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: True Queen Rner Targarian.

551
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 2: Who, by the way, he remembers, he was once buying

552
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: for Hand's spirit. And I feel like over at storms

553
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: End when he brought that up, I did kind of

554
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: feel like he's looking at Damon and he's thinking like

555
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: you are mats, like maybe if I maybe, if I

556
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: do this, there's gonna be space for a new king,

557
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: because like you are not looking well.

558
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: And now recall at that meeting in the Storm's Land

559
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: in storms End, when Sir Willem was part of you know,

560
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: the matchmaking sessions for Riverira, he got into a duel

561
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,959
Speaker 1: with a Bracken and actually ended up killing him. So

562
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: this shit has been going on a long time. And

563
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: certainly uh Will and Blackwood uh can't wait to march

564
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: against the Brackens. At the Green Council back at the

565
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: Red Keep, we learned that uh, you know, refueling the

566
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: dragons is expensive. They eat a lot of sheep and

567
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: lamb and whatever, and it's really stressing the resources of

568
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: the Crowlens. Eggon is like, I don't give a shit

569
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: a bowing infrastructure week, okay, which is funny.

570
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: You can tell he's like sick of it because there

571
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: was that little period of time near the beginning of

572
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 2: his reign right where he actually seemed to like understand

573
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: that this small folk were important and they needed to

574
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: be involved, and there was kind of we still knew

575
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: he was like a creepy rapist who doesn't have any

576
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: like real good ideas. But there was a moment where

577
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, maybe he kind of does for

578
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: some reason, he's understanding this, but now he's just like, no,

579
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: I'm bored. Also, can I just say something, Yeah, why

580
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: do the dragon riding families? Why do the Targarians not

581
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: have like a farming infrastructure? I feel like you could

582
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: just have there should just be farms that solely are

583
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: made to feed. I kind of I get it, some

584
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: kind of like arrogance of like, well, the small folk,

585
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: it's this feudal mindset. They can deliver it, but they

586
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: should realize, like, especially when you've got vaguar hanging around,

587
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: do you need like a lot of sheep like a

588
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: normal which, by the way, we really get to see

589
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: how big Vega's back and Vega is and I it's

590
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: so good.

591
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: So Eggon storms off who he goes to his mummy

592
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: to complain. He finds Allison in his room looking for

593
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: King Vassarius's books. King Eggon pours himself a big glass

594
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: of wine, starts.

595
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: To drink, and he's already drunk.

596
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: He's already drink. If you're telling Alison, like my counsel

597
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: will listen to me call an Amon. They're doing stuff

598
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: by my back. And Alison, who I think it's fair

599
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: to say dislikes her sons.

600
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: She hates because she knows she she recalls all the

601
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: women she had to pay off. Yeah, the egg m rape.

602
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: Then obviously she is someone who was, you know, essentially

603
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: sold to be a child bride to a king, so

604
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: she has some empathy for those women. She doesn't like him,

605
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 2: And in this sequence as well, I think she is

606
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: losing the last of her focks to give. This is

607
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: this is Sabrina Carpenter, Like my giver focks are on vacation.

608
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: She is, she's been. She usually like has a certain

609
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: distance I feel like and maybe a disassociation that allows

610
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: her to continue her role as dowager queen. But here

611
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: she's like, she's like, you're an under position. You are

612
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: here are because we put you here, and we sacrifice

613
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: so much to get you here, and you just need

614
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 2: to shut your fucking mouth, do nothing. Just shut up.

615
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: She's like, that's what we put you here to do nothing?

616
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: Dad was you're ten times the king that you're just missings.

617
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: I have to say in this episode she's missing very

618
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: interesting the kind of like Golden Sepia glow that Visara's

619
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: is recalled in through Allison and she basically says, egg on,

620
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: shut up in trible like shut up. We don't want

621
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: to let the experts do their thing, and just shut

622
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: the fuck up. The Green Army has gathered outside of

623
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: the walls of Expressed and they begin laying siege to

624
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: the middle of the daytime and calls like, we go forwards.

625
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: Get a surprise, It's gonna be great. We go forward

626
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: as part of the plant. Gawayne is like whoa, whoa

627
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: the dragons like they can see us and ship like,

628
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't we wait till darkness? Like I'm all for the attack?

629
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: Wells wait.

630
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: I just want to say as well. We get the

631
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: best moment here because this is one of my probably

632
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: my favorite lines definitely from House to Dragon and maybe

633
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: from Game of Thrones, and we get this great moment

634
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: with Sir Gawayne, who I feel like so far we

635
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: haven't really gotten to know him very well.

636
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: Wonderful Freddy Fox.

637
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: He's Freddy Fox is so good in this moment because

638
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 2: Sir Christen says to him in his arrogant stupid they'll

639
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: faith and his and his like stuck up voice. He goes,

640
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: are you scared, and and he goes worse, I'm rational, yeah,

641
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm a brain, so.

642
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it.

643
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm actually thinking about and Kristin Cole is

644
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: emboldened by how easy it's been for him to turn

645
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: these you know, smaller kind of villages and communities, but

646
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: he is not thinking about the fact that they are,

647
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: that they are small, and they haven't they've been uncontested essentially.

648
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: But this is and this is Cole's plan. Listen, He's

649
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: He's knocked off a bunch of castles, black castles on

650
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: the way. He has accepted the bent knees of those forces,

651
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: namely the Darklands, who we recently saw get their heads

652
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: chopped off in Ben the Knee, and he is more

653
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: than willing to use those forces as bait, hopefully to

654
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: lure a Black Dragon to the battle where it will

655
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: be ambushed by Vagar, who is waiting in the woods

656
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: some distance away for the signal.

657
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: Okay, so I have to say, before we get into

658
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 2: this final third act, which is so fantastic, I need

659
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: to talk about this line that was earlier when he

660
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: was trying to turn some of the kind of smaller

661
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: folk and the knights to reneer it to Allison's cause

662
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: he called Vernera the horror of dragon Star.

663
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: That's a little strong.

664
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, this man is trying to get in the

665
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: history books. He's trying to come up with nicknames. He's

666
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: trying to come up with insults that will be written

667
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: down for his ex that was like, by the way,

668
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: like ten years ago at this point, or something like,

669
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: my friend, I hate you so much and I'm so

670
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: happy that your downfall is clearly imminent because you are

671
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: just the worst.

672
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: I need a I definitely need a general who is

673
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: just a little bit more business like than Kristen call.

674
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: A little bit less emotional. You know, it's women being emotional.

675
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 2: But both Ranera and Allison have a very closed off,

676
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: like quite sensible demeanor. Kristen calls out here like writing

677
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: distracts about Riniera while he's chopping man's heads.

678
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: You're a pure mad dog.

679
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: He's just he's an imbecile. Also, I want to say,

680
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: you know, it's hard to kind of capture it in

681
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: the recap, but the reveal of what calls Plan truly

682
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: is it made me gasp. The way they tell the

683
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: story on the screen where you see this kind of

684
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: what looks like a failing siege in the daytime, but

685
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: as soon as Renee appears on Relase, you know that

686
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: something else is happening, because Cole says, this is the plan. Yeah,

687
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: and we see Amond kind of rise up on or

688
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: we see Aimond on Vagar in some kind of Jurassic

689
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 2: Park esque like you can't tell the dinosaur from the woods,

690
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: and it's so scary and it's really good, and I

691
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I fucking hate Kristin Cole, but this

692
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: is actually such a good plan. He didn't execute it well,

693
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: but he did.

694
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: Come on, we'll get to that because there was things

695
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: beyond his control. So on Dragon saw Christian Cole apologists

696
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: coming through the news of the fall of Duskindale shakes

697
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: the Black Council that is the seed of House Darkland.

698
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: Sir Stephan Darkland is one of Rniera's sworn swords. He

699
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: is the Knight that accompanied her into kings Landing for

700
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: the secret meeting. So this is a big deal and

701
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: one that's very personally felt. They learned that Ranier was

702
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: over talking to Alison to hopefully sue for peace. That

703
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: option is now gone. Now it's time for war. Jace

704
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: is like, okay, I'm done serving, looks send a dragon.

705
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: Raniera says, good idea, it's got to be me, like

706
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: I've exhausted every effort to forge a peaceful solution. She hasn't,

707
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: but she thinks that yes, and she's like, I have

708
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: to go, and everybody's like, no, you're the queen, you

709
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: can't go, like all our hopes are pinned on you.

710
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: Jays's like, I'll go. I'm gonna go, and everybody's like,

711
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: you're too young and inexperienced. What are you talking about?

712
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: And then Renee finally is like, but it has to

713
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: be met. I know how to fight, I'm experienced. Mainly,

714
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: this is the biggest dragon that we have currently available

715
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: to us. I will meet Cole. Everybody's fall silent because

716
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: they know this is absolutely the move. That's what we

717
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: have to do. Yea and Raniera. You could tell that.

718
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: Raniera is like fuck, like that's my bestie. Yeah, I

719
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: might lose my bestie right now.

720
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: I will say another You know we love Raniera. She

721
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: has the rightful queen. But another significant kind of mistake

722
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: she made. She should have made Renise her hand, so

723
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: Renie could have stood in in those meetings before she

724
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: went away.

725
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: Having no hand right now is a mess.

726
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 2: It's a mess. Also, I do want to just say

727
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: I do want to kind of apologize a little bit

728
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: to Raniera because last week we were kind of dragging

729
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: on her for not having a plan when she went

730
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: to see Alison, and I do still think that stands.

731
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: But on rewatching that before I watched this episode, I

732
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: do think she is truly like dumb struck by how

733
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: stupid Allison is in that moment, Like whatever plan she

734
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: might have had, I think she is like, what are

735
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: you talking about? Like you you? I think she was

736
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: just shocked. So you know what, Raniera, I like you.

737
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: I hope that this plan goes well for you and

738
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: and I do. But I will also say I do

739
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: think when Cole and Amen made this plan, I do

740
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: think they believe that Raniera would be the one to go.

741
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: I think they thought. I think they were hoping. I

742
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: think they were really I think they were hoping it would.

743
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: She's She's very We've seen her be very, very impulsive.

744
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: We've seen her ignore the smartest plan to go for

745
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: the most impactful plan. And for the most part for

746
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: her it has worked. But I think that in this moment,

747
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: the Reneise plan is is the best plan. And I

748
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 2: love Renise, She's brave. I also think Reniee is feeling

749
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: a slightly freed of the shackles that her great happy

750
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: marriage have given her because she's learned about this betrayal

751
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: from Carless, So I think she is a little bit

752
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: more open to going to battle. But Jason, I just

753
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you this as well, because Reniera kind

754
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: of you know, she talks about how she wanted to

755
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: settle for peace, she wanted to try her best, because

756
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: really sending a dragon to war, this is the moment

757
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: where there's like no going back right now. She said, like,

758
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: this is huge.

759
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose one side or the other is gonna

760
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: lose an important piece and an important person. So back

761
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: in the red keep eggon now fully shit faced is like,

762
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: you know what, fuck it, I'm going I'm gonna.

763
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: Go, oh my go. And he doesn't have a real

764
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 2: so his idiot friends just get him and they send

765
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: him out on this little baby.

766
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: Back on Dragonstone. Raniera understanding now that we're moving into

767
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: a different phase of the war one that might take

768
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: her life. Tells Jace about the Song of Ice and Fire.

769
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: This gave me goosebumps. Way, Emma Darsie read it. As

770
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: we see the dragons approaching Rook's Rest, Oh, it's just

771
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: so good.

772
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: So Raniera and me Lys arrive outside of Brooks Rest

773
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 1: and they immediately strike at Cole's army. Cole then sends

774
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: the signal for Vagar, but instead it's egg On, a

775
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: drunken Eggon and Sunfire who fly overhead towards the battle.

776
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: They fly right over aimin Ty.

777
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: Sunfire is so tiny it's it's not big enough.

778
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: Aimond is like fuck as he watches his idiot brother,

779
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: he says, calls him an idiot, and then he's like,

780
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: you know what, let me see Let's see how you

781
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: Let's see how this plays on, So this will be interesting.

782
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: Could be interesting.

783
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: When Cole sees that it's the King's dragon, you know,

784
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: Sir Gawayne is like, wait, who's dragon sent? This is

785
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: your plan?

786
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: He's like, is this was your plant? And you send

787
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: out this idiot king?

788
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: And then Cole is like, wait, oh shit, that's the

789
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: king and GWayne is like, you're a fucking moron, Cole

790
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: is like, okay, we have to change. Okay, we gotta

791
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: go for now. We have to change the plan completely,

792
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: and he's like, okay. King's yeah, hey man, this is it.

793
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: By the way, you're protected by divine proves.

794
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: Nothing bad will happen to me.

795
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: You are protected by the gods of the seventh wants a.

796
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: Hand to protect the king and the king affair.

797
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be great. Go forward, it's gonna be great.

798
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: And he just is like, he sends them forward, and

799
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: he hope. He's hoping now that Amon is gonna show

800
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: up whenever Renie and Maylee's absolutely fuck Sunfire and ha

801
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: gone up. They fucked him up bad. He is a mass.

802
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: He's Sunfire is getting his her turn open. And then

803
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: finally aimoned is rises and is flying towards the battle,

804
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: and Eggon looks and is like, oh, thank god, my

805
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: brother's here, save my ass. It's gonna be great. But

806
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: then that big old mouth of Vegars opens with the flames.

807
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: You can see the flame he generating down in the

808
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: throat and boom hits it Aimed clearly not caring like

809
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: who is getting flamed here, and just burns up the

810
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: tangled dragons, his brother Eggon the king, and also Malise

811
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: and Rainyes, and next thing you know, Eggon and Sunfire

812
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: go tumbling to the earth where they crash into the

813
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: woods and leave a huge, flaming, fucking crater. And now

814
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: you're thinking, certainly, I'm thinking King's down, perhaps dead. Get

815
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,479
Speaker 1: out of there, because also as.

816
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: Well, like this is gonna be seen as obviously huge

817
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: declaration of war because you're gonna get blamed, but also

818
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: great success for Raniera. So I'm saying, just get out

819
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: of that now, because if if Egon's debt, you bloody

820
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: their nose, and you can say, well, there's no king now,

821
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: so surely Vaniera is the rightful app.

822
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: You bloody their nose now. Instead, Maylye straps in and

823
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: orders Mayle's to attack. Now. I think what's going through

824
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: her mind is, well, they'll just name Aimond, probably right.

825
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: And secondarily, I did the right thing at the at

826
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: the dragon Pit last season, the right thing, the right

827
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: thing morally and legally, because it was not my place

828
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: to just kill the entire Green faction.

829
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: That said, I do think she's making it up.

830
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: If I don't finish the job now, people are gonna

831
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: be like what the fuck is up with you? So

832
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: I need to finish. I need to make sure the

833
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: job is finished, and she turns back.

834
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 2: She has been someone who throughout this has been worried

835
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: about the cost of war, the amount of bodies, the bloodshed,

836
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: and I think she does feel a guilt for not

837
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: doing that in the dragon pit, even though in the

838
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: moment she hoped there was a root for peace, but

839
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: now I think she understands there isn't, at least not

840
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: according to Raniera. So I think that she feels like

841
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: this is a chance for her to stop that bloodshed.

842
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 2: I also feel like there is a resignation. Eve Best

843
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: does such a fantastic job here where you know, Renise

844
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: is never gonna get their throne that she should have had.

845
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 2: Renise knows her husband has betrayed her and not kept

846
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: it from her, you know, has let her see that.

847
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: She knows that now it's unlikely that their family will

848
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: have a female heir, which she hoped for, and she

849
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: can see that this war is coming. So I do

850
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: feel like in that moment where she straps into the

851
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: saddle and turns around, she's aware of the cost of

852
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: this decision, but she feels like it's the right thing

853
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: to do. So this is probably when she feels the

854
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: most powerful and like she has her most agency, is

855
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: when she's in the sky with Malise, so she can

856
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: make a historical moment here like for the books. She

857
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: can if she can achieve this. And also, you know,

858
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: I think there's also a little bit of Vigar was

859
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 2: stolen from her family. You know, we know who Aimon

860
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 2: stole Vegar. So I think there are so many layers

861
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: to this, and you see all of them in her face.

862
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: I think there's also an aspect of she's a targarian

863
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: princess in a part of a family that has a

864
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: rich martial tradition. The women have been dragon writers and

865
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: have taken part in the war. And this is how

866
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: you die, if you're gonna die, is how you die

867
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: a fire. It's a warrior's death, right, It's a warrior

868
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: die with your dragon. She turns back and actually fucking

869
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: kicks Vigars. My god, down's Vigar. And it shows you

870
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: that Renie is experienced and smart and wiley. And then

871
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: while Vigar is huge journing, he's just playing trying his

872
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: luck because his dragon's big. You know, she's strategic. She

873
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: goes inverted, uses gravity to pull Vagar down, and down's Vigar,

874
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: who crashes into Vega's guts like huge wound causes Vigar

875
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: to crash into the ground, sending the entire army into chaos.

876
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: Vigar is like stepping on guys. It's a fucking miss.

877
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: Cole is in concussion protocol, doesn't know where he is.

878
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: Belle is majorly wrong. And now Rene's goes finally iphen.

879
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: Someone was gonna chop Cole's head off, like I was, like,

880
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: just chop it off.

881
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: Renie's goes heading for the sea and now she really

882
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: should go now like she got two strikes.

883
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: Now, babe, go you smashed it, you killed it. You're

884
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: gonna be please go, You're gonna be the hand, You're

885
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: gonna be celebrated. You might end up being Vaniera's kings. God,

886
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: she needs one, like come on.

887
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: But again, I think she's thinking the army is still outside,

888
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,959
Speaker 1: looks right, like it's not. The siege is not over.

889
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Vegar is finished. Again, I have that

890
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: there is that criticism that I should have done more

891
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: at the dragon pit, and so let me just go

892
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: and maybe take a look and see what the status

893
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: of the king is in Vegar and see if the

894
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: job is done okay?

895
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: And also do you think there is because I have

896
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: to say, I do think how the dragon is doing

897
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: a really good job kind of putting paid to the

898
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: idea that Targarian madness is this all consuming thing that's

899
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: always happening, and they all die and they're all crazy

900
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: and they're all doing crazy stuff. But do you think

901
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: there is possibly like that little fire of Targarian dragon blood,

902
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: of like wanting to burn things. Do you think there's

903
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of that? Because this really did feel

904
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: like the logical choice was leave. Now you've actually scored

905
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: two fantastic wins. I think no.

906
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: I think she wanted to just see. I think she

907
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: wanted to I think she wanted to be able to

908
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: go back and report to the queen. Here is Here

909
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: is where we are. The king is either dead or not,

910
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: Vegar is either seriously injured or not, and the siege

911
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: is over. I think if she, I think she's thinking,

912
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: if I fly back now and the siege is still

913
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: ongoing and Vegar is still up, they're gonna say, what

914
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: the fuck did you do? Why are you here? The

915
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: castle has been taken, the army is still like active

916
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: and the king is not dead, like yeah, like you

917
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: need to come back with a win or don't come back,

918
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: And I think she's she's sensitive to that comment. Well, unfortunately,

919
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: Melesse and Rainie get ambushed by Vagar on the turnaround,

920
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: and this time it's Vegar gets to drop on them,

921
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: crushes Meyles's neck.

922
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, almost like bites off its head.

923
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: There's this terrible moment where Meyle's and Rainy's know it's

924
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: over and they're just locking and and it's it's a

925
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: bookend of that moment where when ray Niece is getting

926
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: ready to leave, she like is petting the side of

927
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: mainly the battle and there's a smile like the way

928
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: you'd smile at a horse, you know, and it's like

929
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: it's and it's tremendously sad. They go crashing into the

930
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: walls of Rook's rest and it's clear that that they're dead.

931
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: It's it's done. Cole struggles to his feet his bell rung,

932
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: wanders into the woods to find out your grace, you

933
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: know what he is the job and what he finds

934
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: is Sunfire looking real bad, probably about to die or

935
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: near death, guts ripped out, still twitching but looking real,

936
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: real bad, and we don't see the king, but what

937
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: we see is aim And standing over the king with

938
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 1: his sword out. And when aim And clocks Coal there,

939
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: he's like okay, and he puts his sword away and

940
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: perhaps thinking my brother looks fucked up enough, like yeah,

941
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: let time take its toll and that will finish the job.

942
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: Whatever the case. If the king is alive after this,

943
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna be real fucked up. And that is the

944
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: end of the episode. And it is a big one,

945
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: a huge episode.

946
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: Huge episode. I also loved the I think in that moment,

947
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: I think Aimond is as much as he is like

948
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 2: a deceitful, like cunning person, you know, he's also incredibly clever.

949
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: And I really felt in that moment that he was

950
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: like wait. He takes a long time to put his

951
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: sword back, and I think he's weighing up. He's looking

952
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: at Coal and he's thinking, can I trust trust you?

953
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: Can I trust I do this?

954
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 2: Are you going to use it against me in the future,

955
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: Like yeah, we're bros. We planned this plan. It didn't

956
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: go great, but it kind of went to plan in

957
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: a way. But I don't know if I can trust

958
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: you to just like, let me see you, let you

959
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 2: see me kill the king.

960
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: Also in a change from the books, in a change

961
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: that I think actually fits with the books as retrospective

962
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: war propaganda. Right, they don't ever mention. First of the

963
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: books frame Sunfire and Eggon going into war as like

964
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: a twin plan, like Aimoned and Eggon came up with

965
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: this plant together. It was the brothers together, working together

966
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: as a team. Yeah, And it is not framed as

967
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: the drunken king staggered into battle, and there is no

968
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 1: mention of Aimon. I mean, I think it's pretty unambiguous, right,

969
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: He's hoping that he's thinking, okay, well, if Egon gets

970
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: his clock cleaned here, I'm king perfect, like, let's let

971
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: this happen, and in fact takes an active role in

972
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 1: trying to get it to happen by blasting his brother

973
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: and may Leason Rainyes together and then is absolutely caught

974
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: in the act of being about to finish off the king,

975
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: like he was gonna believe he was going to do it.

976
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: Oh, he was going to do it. It would have just

977
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 2: taken like a stab to the hall, something he wouldn't

978
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: have had to do anything too obvious.

979
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: And I think that frames aimed in a much different

980
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: light than the books do, so that is very interesting

981
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 1: to me. It shows a different and a much more

982
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: cunning side to Age.

983
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: So before we kind of turned the mics on, you

984
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: were talking about this the way that the show kind

985
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: of reframes the books as almost like propaganda. So could

986
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: you talk a little bit about that, because I do

987
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 2: think that after this episode we are in that space

988
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: of like you were saying, like it's like misogynist propaganda, and.

989
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that. I think Fire and Blood is

990
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: essentially misogynist propaganda that downplays the roles of Allison and Reniera.

991
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: Frames Reniera's decisions certainly later decisions, mid war decisions, maybe

992
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: not the decisions that are happening right now, but like

993
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: happened further on into the war as like the acts

994
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: of a despotic, emotional, crazed woman, and and mainly frame

995
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: the moves of Christen Cole and Aimond and Damon as

996
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: like the great warriors of the Age. You know, it's

997
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: it is war propaganda, absolutely war propaganda. And one that

998
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: and one that written by men, like written by several men,

999
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: some of whom were not even there at the time.

1000
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: So this is the stuff that's coming to the four

1001
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 1: in the show. Is actually super interesting in the way

1002
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: that it adds a depth of realism to the story.

1003
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: Can't wait to see what happens next, can't wait to

1004
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: see what the status of the king is, how people

1005
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: are going to react to end if Cole I mean

1006
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: this is Cole has now witnessed something that is very

1007
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: dangerous and I and he is on treacherous ground now because.

1008
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: Especially because Amond was willing to kill his brother, So

1009
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to kill it, care about

1010
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: killing it bro he has that's just his friend.

1011
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 1: He has to be very careful now because the king

1012
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: is he alive dead I don't know, but could Aimond

1013
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: come to power, yes, very possiblely, and Cole has information

1014
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: that would be very dead Like he cannot ever mention

1015
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: this thing. He's gonna have to say, I don't know anything.

1016
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: So it's very interesting going forward. Can't wait to see

1017
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: what happens when next we see an episode.

1018
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 2: Also, I'm really intrigued because, like Cole's plan, even though

1019
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: it did take a dragon and Allison knows this was

1020
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: col and Amen's doing. The King is like grilled cheese now,

1021
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: you know, like whatever happens to him, he's not doing well.

1022
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: So like King's what was the cost of.

1023
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: The True Air int Commas like the Usurper? But like

1024
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 2: was was him not being able to rule like worth,

1025
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: you know, taking out Malise and Renise. I would probably

1026
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: actually say, like yes, because he was just a pawn,

1027
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: but I don't know if it will look that way

1028
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: to the High Tower in the Green faction, I think

1029
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: Eggon was an important pawn. So I'm also interested to

1030
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: maybe see Kristen Cole finally kind of getting some come

1031
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: upance for his you know, reckless behavior. So I can't

1032
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: wait for the next episode.

1033
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 1: We'll be right back up in a quick brick. Let's

1034
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: go to the scorecard. Who's winning right now? After the

1035
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: Battle of Rook's Rest, I have a take, Okay, after

1036
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: this battle, on Fire is down there. The Greens had

1037
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: three dragons that could find to Sarrion Darren, the Darings, who,

1038
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: by the way over an old time have not seen it. Vagar.

1039
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: Of course, we just saw an action and Sunfire. So

1040
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: on Fire is down and out of it, dead or whatever,

1041
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: but certainly out of it. Vagar is gonna have to

1042
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: stay around King's Landing because you can't lose.

1043
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 2: That a lot of sheep as well.

1044
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: Send them all the black dragons, you know where Vegar

1045
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: is gonna be. Vagar's gonna be at King's landing. Send

1046
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: jasend Bayless and Rania, send everybody, Send all of them

1047
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: and just go burn Green shit like, yeah, send them

1048
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: all now, you over like. Even if you lose two

1049
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: or three, they've only got to like And if you

1050
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: knock out Vegar, it's fucking over it. I think the

1051
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: Green position has been very strong up until now, but

1052
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: they lost a lot of men. Vegar is gonna be

1053
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: super super tired and is wounded. Sunfire is out of it,

1054
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: the King is roasted. I think if the Blacks are

1055
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: gonna make a move now is actually a great time

1056
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: to it would be great. I think the Greens are

1057
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: less strong than they seem. But we'll see what happens.

1058
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens on.

1059
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: The next couple of episodes of X Ray Vision. We're

1060
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: gonna be diving into House of the Dragon, of course,

1061
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: and of course continue coverage of the Acolyte and with

1062
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: some other surprises in there for you. That's it for

1063
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: this episode. Thanks for listening. Bye x ray Vision is

1064
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie Knight and is a

1065
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive producers are Joelle Smith

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer is a Boo Zafar.

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Speaker 1: Our producers are Carmen Laurent and Mia Taylor. Our theme

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Speaker 1: song is by Brian Basquez.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman

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Speaker 2: and Heidi Our discoored moderata