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Speaker 1: My daughter wants five figures for her IVF treatment so

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Speaker 1: she can have a baby. I said, no, I'm giving

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Speaker 2: What are all these demands for IVF? You know, like, just.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, Sam, I want a baby.

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Speaker 2: Why can't you just do it the old fashioned way

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Speaker 2: and then like, you know, just like steal it from

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Speaker 1: Rumpel Stiltskin the fat boy is just steal a baby.

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Speaker 1: I am a father of two. Biological daughter is twenty

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Speaker 1: six and my stepdaughter is eighteen. I'm lucky to have

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Speaker 1: established a good relationship with my stepdaughter that is based

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Speaker 3: Very nice.

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Speaker 1: I raised her when she was two. I don't even

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Speaker 1: call her my stepdaughter. I call her my own. She's

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Speaker 1: always dreamed of owning a car and hinted about wanting

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Speaker 1: took it upon myself to try and save up for one.

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Speaker 1: It took me years to save up to be able

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Speaker 1: to get her a decent car as a gift, and

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Speaker 1: I felt thrilled I was able to achieve this goal,

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Speaker 1: knowing how much it means to her. I haven't bought

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Speaker 1: decent car around ten to thirteen thousand dollars. My oldest

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Speaker 1: daughter has been struggling with infertility, and she and her

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Speaker 1: husband already tried the clinical route but weren't successful. They

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Speaker 1: stopped trying for a year due to financial struggles. I

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Speaker 2: IVS sounds so rough and so expensive.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the money, and she brought up the

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Speaker 1: money that I was saving or her stepsister's car. I

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Speaker 1: few months. I said no, because what's the use of

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Speaker 1: buy my stepdaughter her car, stepcar, stepcar.

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Speaker 3: That's not where the gas goes.

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Speaker 1: Her husband pointed out how his parents helped with the

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Speaker 1: previous treatment costs and now it's my turn since we're family.

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Speaker 1: So he said, my stepsister can get a car anytime later,

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Speaker 1: but logically the money should go towards a better case.

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Speaker 1: I declined, saying that it's her last birthday with family

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Speaker 1: to disappoint her. My daughter said that she wasn't asking

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Speaker 1: for a fancy new car. She just longs to become

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Speaker 1: a mother. In all honesty, I stated, even if I

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Speaker 1: work this time. Her husband said, I had my priorities

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Speaker 1: messed up, asking who in their right mind sees their

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Speaker 1: and then prioritizes the car over a potential grand baby

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Speaker 1: that every sane grandparent dreams of having. I asked, why

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Speaker 1: isn't someone else besides his parents helping? And my daughter

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Speaker 2: So in what world do you think if she's already

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Speaker 2: in debt, how will she be able to pay op back.

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Speaker 2: You're not asking for a loan, you're asking for the money.

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Speaker 1: Out for the money, yeah, I said, even if the

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Speaker 1: She got quiet, and her husband asked if I could

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Speaker 1: She kept insisting that I do the right thing, but

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Speaker 1: Still she insisted on insulting my wife. My wife no

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Speaker 1: it seems to me that my daughter is getting I

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Speaker 1: right now, speak your mind, let us know if you

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Speaker 1: think OPI is the ahole. And then also, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've seen so many IVF stories are like infertility stories.

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Speaker 1: We would love to hear your own infertility and IVF

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Speaker 1: and other stories either in the YouTube comments or even

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Speaker 2: Say what do you think is OPD a hole? I

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Speaker 2: don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I do think that there are many parents, if they

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Speaker 2: think it's an unreasonable thing to ask your parent. But

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Speaker 2: if they say no, you know, they say no, what

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Speaker 2: can you do they say no? Say no. I don't

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Speaker 2: think Op's the a hole. Especially it's like Op's daughter

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Speaker 2: is not asking for a loan, asking for the money

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Speaker 1: I think they're deluding themselves into thinking they're asking for

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Speaker 3: They're not.

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Speaker 2: They're not asking for a loan. Yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Like what is the best course of action here. If

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Speaker 2: I was ope this, it might be an a whole

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Speaker 2: move to actually say, hey, daughter, I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: Right, it puts her in a precarious situation too, because

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Speaker 3: Essentially, Yeah, so, yeah, do you want a car or

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Speaker 2: That's really tough. I'm gonna say, oh, you should put

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Speaker 2: I would be curious to hear if the daughter ever

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Speaker 1: Some sort of like equivalent gesture, even if it wasn't

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Speaker 2: because if there wasn't, then it's kind of like a favoritism.

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Speaker 2: It feels like a little bit of favoritism.

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Speaker 1: Bureaucracy at its finest, and had to circumvent it. A

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Speaker 1: read a story guide. It was Italy, the year nineteen

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Speaker 3: The year was nineteen ninety five, The perfect start Italy.

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Speaker 2: In a little Italian bistro just below the Farmer's Market.

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Speaker 1: It was a CPA tone. Man in a dark fedora

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, smoking a cigarette, and he was thinking to himself.

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Speaker 3: Mo ma me yeah. Internet was dial up only and

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Speaker 1: One municipality decided to give away free dial up internet

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Speaker 1: I was walking past the office and thought, hey, why

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Speaker 1: not like that? But bye, come mine. I went in

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Speaker 1: It's one of those the name of a free internet initiative,

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Speaker 1: Appointment for ten minutes from now. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: You got a lot of it, like the bureaucracy is

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Speaker 2: so heavy and that it's like, just speak to me

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Speaker 2: also like not even like I would understand. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is like in nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 3: There is no.

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Speaker 2: There's no system. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, i'll meet when ten minutes is like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's okay, Like I'll just take you now.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 1: I went back to her desk and I said, I

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Speaker 1: know I'm a little early. Sorry, can I have internet

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Speaker 1: access credentials? And this is how I got free internet access.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Ope, work in the system, getting through that bureaucracy.

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Speaker 3: Also free internet. That's that's lit.

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Speaker 2: That's a great I mean it's dial up but true.

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Speaker 2: But that's pretty late.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're just loading Google dot com.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. What else was around nineteen tenety five, Yellow Books,

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Speaker 2: Yellow website, Peace Space,